Elections360 Weekly | Heated crime debate as parties square off in Western Cape

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  • Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
  • On tonight's elections debate, political parties debate about the high rate of crime in the country. The debate was held at Langa Community hall in the Western Cape.
    ANC was represented by Bheki Cele, PA by Cheslyn Steenberg, DA by Ian Cameron, EFF by Nazier Paulsen, Good Party was represented by Brett Herron and Al Jama-ah by Advocate Shameemah Salie.
    For more news, visit sabcnews.com and #SABCNews on all Social Media platforms.

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  • @graham9794
    @graham9794 21 день тому +19

    It's confirmed!! South African's National IQ test will be written on 29 May.

  • @bekkerbosbeer3453
    @bekkerbosbeer3453 23 дні тому +20

    Once you actually send the criminals to jail, it will make sense!!!

  • @leslenesantana7575
    @leslenesantana7575 22 дні тому +32

    ANC is a failure in every department!

  • @lebraa9233
    @lebraa9233 23 дні тому +16

    ANC Exitpolls what a USELESSS Ministers failed State all around 😩😩

  • @leslenesantana7575
    @leslenesantana7575 22 дні тому +21

    Bheki can’t even talk properly time to go on pension!

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 22 дні тому +3

      Jail rather

    • @sabelosphalas1747
      @sabelosphalas1747 22 дні тому +1

      ​@@veronicakarstel9126😂😂😂

    • @DrRed-dj6or
      @DrRed-dj6or 20 днів тому +1

      You are obviously bias

    • @balsak007
      @balsak007 20 днів тому

      ​@@DrRed-dj6orand you are not?

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 18 днів тому

      AGREE with you Very much too old man should be long time on PENSION all sleeping behind the Desktop 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @vt5371
    @vt5371 22 дні тому +18

    One of the worst "debate" I have seen so far!

    • @lucasjansenvanvuuren8756
      @lucasjansenvanvuuren8756 22 дні тому +5

      Agreed, it is a waste of time, no real depth of getting to answers, cheap politicking.
      Lack of fundamental understanding even by the questions from the crowds, with very obvious bias,

  • @mrsgoemans-leith
    @mrsgoemans-leith 19 днів тому +6

    What is the point of having a clock if the debaters only talk louder when asked to stop 🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @bekkerbosbeer3453
    @bekkerbosbeer3453 23 дні тому +35

    Bheki has no idea what he is talking about!!!

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 23 дні тому +3

      Bheki talking Dementetion behind the Desktop old these ex Présidenten 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @onlyeverydaysa5029
      @onlyeverydaysa5029 18 днів тому +1

      Yes these different departments don't speak to each other and it shows.

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 18 днів тому

      @@onlyeverydaysa5029 AGREE with you i belief its different departements they don't discussiëren with each others that is Why its mess intolerant altogether

  • @Jitesh_Dayal
    @Jitesh_Dayal 23 дні тому +29

    The failure is on the stage. ANC man Cele

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 18 днів тому

      That Cele ANC should be long time on PENSION all get free salaris which does'nt presenteren

  • @devilliersduplessis7904
    @devilliersduplessis7904 22 дні тому +12

    Go Iron Cameroon!

  • @ross7901
    @ross7901 22 дні тому +9

    Brett Heron's political slogan should be: 'I should know better'

  • @AlternativPerspectiv
    @AlternativPerspectiv 22 дні тому +13

    People keep talking about wanting policing resources in their area... do they pay tax? Do thy pay rates and levies to the municipality?
    All the informal settlements that are just a problem, do they contribute ANYTHING at all to the taxbase that pays for police? No.
    Then they must shut up.

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 22 дні тому +2

      Get what you pay for. Everything free and most fled EC to become a burden to us ratepayers

    • @kambuyiblack7462
      @kambuyiblack7462 20 днів тому

      @veronicakarstel9126 You sound delusional. Townships are big contributers to South Africas economy. The police department is not funded based on how much property levies and taxes you pay. Read the budget speech. Since crime is destroying our economy and these communities are sources of some criminals, members of these communities feel that more policing will mitigate some of the extreme forms of criminality in their area. Your comment indicates to me you do not recognise these people in townships as human beings worthy of basic rights. You talk about money when the conversation is about human lives and longterm stability. There is no law prohibiting the free movement of any South Africa to greener pastures. Western Cape is not an independent state nor will it ever become one - more and more black people will migrate there until you can't tell who is black and who is not, that will help you from discriminating people based on the colour of their skin.

    • @balsak007
      @balsak007 20 днів тому

      ​@@kambuyiblack7462Yeah black people voted for the ANC in the EC and then moved to greener pastures. Like they did 300 years ago. Where does the budget gets its income from? Taxes! You vote on the basis of race only, where are you going to move once the WC looks like the EC? Zim?

  • @Stewylewy
    @Stewylewy 22 дні тому +7

    Everything in this video could have been summarised in 15 minutes.
    Between the transparent politicking of the speakers to the chaos of the crowd and the failure to manage the debate, this is a snapshot of what is wrong with South African politics.

  • @PingPong-Jhb
    @PingPong-Jhb 20 днів тому +3

    The questions are being asked the wrong people, there is nothing we will get from these ones.

  • @SandraVanEeden
    @SandraVanEeden 23 дні тому +7

    Those supporters of the anc, you should ask one of them what solutions do they have.

  • @donreebyr
    @donreebyr 20 днів тому +5

    Why is this guy of pa say the Da can't do nothing who is running this country isn't it ANC say anc can't solve problems in this country if the Da was running this this country you will have seen law and order

  • @claudettebirkett1302
    @claudettebirkett1302 22 дні тому +8

    Why is United Independent Movement never invited to participate on this platform ? Always the same old political party's.. we need fresh young leaders with solutions. It is time for change. We are tired if anc, eff , Al Jamah !

  • @lebraa9233
    @lebraa9233 23 дні тому +5

    EFF must demand Police on His Minister Président ANC" Inpowerment Not demand Police assistent on DA??

  • @LebohangPonoane6346
    @LebohangPonoane6346 22 дні тому +4

    Criminals are arrested, but Department of Justice take them out on min amount of money. Whilst the victims and communities in blacks and coloureds areas are suffering.

  • @glynisstevens7638
    @glynisstevens7638 18 днів тому +3

    Get rid if cele

  • @eldenrossouw314
    @eldenrossouw314 19 днів тому +3

    Bheki Cele "we have arrested 600 thousand and something criminals" but they dont arrest themselves

  • @johannel9982
    @johannel9982 22 дні тому +7

    Listening to the majority of the supporters it is clear they don't accept criminal behaviour is a wilful act. I now understand why it was policed the way it was before 1994 and why we could sleep safe at night in those days

  • @user-ux3ed3ni1p
    @user-ux3ed3ni1p 23 дні тому +2

    Clearly, these institutions are not communicating and working together and hence the people suffer. Clearly, there is a benefit to the chaos.

  • @karthi7016
    @karthi7016 19 днів тому +1

    80+murders a day... We are a murderous bunch...

  • @elizemeissenheimer8345
    @elizemeissenheimer8345 22 дні тому +3

    Aljamah advovate100% for you👍👍👍

  • @AlternativPerspectiv
    @AlternativPerspectiv 22 дні тому +4

    41:00 So officers who can't drive or use a gun were fired and ANC is upset? See why we have problems in South Africa? "They should have been assisted"... assisted to what? Forge passes?

  • @chrisbadenhorst5304
    @chrisbadenhorst5304 21 день тому +16

    What boggles my mind is how all these political parties say "The DA has failed in policing".
    Last time I checked the SAPS is part of government.
    And the ANC is government, the DA is NOT the government.
    So all these smart arses actually just pointed out how stupid they are AND how incompetent the anc is.

  • @MuhammadNoorMia
    @MuhammadNoorMia 23 дні тому +5

    Why is NCC not on the panel ??

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 23 дні тому +3

      They will be shocked when the discounted NCC takes away a lot of the DA votes in the WC.

    • @3ch0ri0t9
      @3ch0ri0t9 22 дні тому +1

      PA taking alot from DA

  • @CassidayJacobs
    @CassidayJacobs 22 дні тому +7

    Ek Baiza Nie!

  • @JCdevoss
    @JCdevoss 22 дні тому +2

    This is basically a debate between the DA and the ANC and it's coalition parties (including Al Jamah)

  • @hennie4122
    @hennie4122 22 дні тому +3

    Staan sement vas! Ons baiza nie! Patriotic Alliance

  • @user-hn3ve5bu4o
    @user-hn3ve5bu4o 19 днів тому +2

    Ian Cameron for police

  • @mrsgoemans-leith
    @mrsgoemans-leith 19 днів тому +1

    Silly to ask a criminal how to get rid of crime in South Africa. The ANC are contributing to SA's high crime rates so how can we expect them to fix it??

  • @ethomas6598
    @ethomas6598 20 днів тому +2

    If Ian Cameron did not stand up against Bheki Nckele, none of these parties would be so against Western Cape. Why are they not trying to prove themselves by building up a small Town so that we can see just how well they can govern. Western cape government has already proved it can govern, Criminal run parties will just destroy Western cape.
    Well done DA

  • @vdw_12500
    @vdw_12500 22 дні тому +7

    Go DA!!!!

  • @veronicakarstel9126
    @veronicakarstel9126 22 дні тому +3

    Unemployable but dance. Stunted brain growth

    • @vusikhawula5686
      @vusikhawula5686 18 днів тому

      And you want black people to vote for your DA.. Yet you can't even hide your racism and white supremism bigotry

  • @user-ku8kf9yy5g
    @user-ku8kf9yy5g 21 день тому +2

    It all start at home, we should teach our family, kids, neighborhood, citizens that crime is wrong, this criminals have parents family, we complain about crime and we protect them, we don't assist but we know, we with hold information, most of us is part of the problem, we the citizens protect this criminals.

  • @beingbantu7528
    @beingbantu7528 23 дні тому +2

    Where is my party actionSA 💚💚💚

  • @leslenesantana7575
    @leslenesantana7575 22 дні тому +17

    Thank you DA 🙏 #voteDA #rescueSA 🙏🇿🇦💙

  • @mothusiemangselemane3629
    @mothusiemangselemane3629 19 днів тому +1

    failed to answer Q2

  • @user-hn3ve5bu4o
    @user-hn3ve5bu4o 19 днів тому +1

    DA to rescue SA

  • @kholiswambozi9997
    @kholiswambozi9997 22 дні тому +5

    ANC and DA🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

  • @arnoldduncan4358
    @arnoldduncan4358 22 дні тому +3

    The muslim lady this is for you don't blame the DA some of your Coments are incorrect

  • @hlesko3254
    @hlesko3254 21 день тому +1

    SA never answered one question concerning townships

  • @ThuIaniNgobeni
    @ThuIaniNgobeni 18 днів тому +1

    Ian Cameron is the man

  • @AndrewMcFarlane_1
    @AndrewMcFarlane_1 22 дні тому +4

    R30k per hour for a drone? Herron has no idea

  • @magezapc493
    @magezapc493 16 днів тому

    Besides the incompetency, particularly from the 'General', these panelist all of them lack professionalism. Their parties could have sent bettter people!!! Worst debate ever.

  • @pitsopitso1857
    @pitsopitso1857 16 днів тому

    They cud have just invited ANC and DA only...😂

  • @thandugonose9769
    @thandugonose9769 23 дні тому +1

    We are never gonna win the fight against crime in SA as long as we are doing this politicking. Crime in SA has affects everyone and we must stand together to fight it instead of blaming each other, otherwise there will be no country for our kids.

  • @keaganscott5956
    @keaganscott5956 22 дні тому +1

    Bheki can't fight his way out of a wet paper bag...

  • @sokopinions
    @sokopinions 20 днів тому +1

    And that's SAs minister everybody!!!! 😅

  • @renaldonoland2298
    @renaldonoland2298 23 дні тому +15

    PA has got my vote.

  • @claradamons399
    @claradamons399 20 днів тому +1

    Ice Vehicles are used as public transport thats why our police transport are always out of order.

  • @fancyIOP
    @fancyIOP 21 день тому +2

    LOL, Mama Zille.

  • @dineshanpillay5944
    @dineshanpillay5944 22 дні тому +1

    Anc pays a lot for puppets

  • @veronicakarstel9126
    @veronicakarstel9126 22 дні тому +1

    Are we supposed to understand these people? No wonder they don't get jobs

  • @zwelonkelikhecks9075
    @zwelonkelikhecks9075 22 дні тому +9

    EFF all the way come 29 May we are ready ❤❤❤

  • @paulrowe9486
    @paulrowe9486 18 днів тому

    Cele is am embarassment to the whole nation ???

  • @AustinGates1996
    @AustinGates1996 23 дні тому +17

    Gayton's ability to engage in dialogue with both top global executives and gang leaders to negotiate terms of peace underscores his unique position to lead South Africa forward and effectively address crime.

    • @devilliersduplessis7904
      @devilliersduplessis7904 22 дні тому +3

      Something about leopards and spits. His track records isn't great either, maybe if he partnered with someone morale with a track record?

  • @user-mg3pp7bz1e
    @user-mg3pp7bz1e 23 дні тому +1

    Crime😢crime😢crime who will listen 2 our cries, cry my beloved people cry my beloved country CRIME IS OUT OF HAND the old man must go and rest he can't do anything he is tired, we tired 2 b tired of CRIME 😢😢😢😢😢

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 23 дні тому

      I m afraid Crime Yours Minister Bheki Cele Don't take his Nation serieus they playing games with people which is Very Sad situation scarying living 🤔

  • @rushmore100
    @rushmore100 20 днів тому +2

    Its great that so many political parties think the DA is the national government.

  • @111MRrj
    @111MRrj 22 дні тому +3

    Bheki moet slaap

  • @user-tb4jv3tl4v
    @user-tb4jv3tl4v 20 днів тому +1

    bheki hambolala

  • @tinopopsyhove6747
    @tinopopsyhove6747 15 днів тому

    EFF ❤🎉😂

  • @BerlineRoseberry
    @BerlineRoseberry 23 дні тому +3

    Political parties should campaign until the elections. After elections whoever is in power should stop politics and start to service the people. They can only win crime if they put their ideas and resources together and not focusing on individual political parties of who is the winner. Why can the army not be utilized to assist gang related crime ridden areas in the country. The current government have no political will to some crime or gaangsterism as the majority crimes are I the so-called colored mixed communities who does not support the current government. The government is also claiming taxes on those insurance claims.
    ie

    • @icno3508
      @icno3508 23 дні тому +1

      No no this is banana south africa you can steal, loot, be corrupt and be incompetent but they will still vote for the AXIS OF EVIL 👹 EFF MK ANC = Low IQ PPL 😹

  • @jadepalmer6338
    @jadepalmer6338 17 днів тому

    How can SA reclaim their streets? 🤔
    First off we need a minister of police that's not a gangster
    Then we need police who are fit enough to run after the criminals
    And not take bribes from the criminals or I should say not take cool drink money
    We need visibility not cops who are sitting at the station falling asleep in their chairs and get naar with you coming for an affidavit

  • @user-hn3ve5bu4o
    @user-hn3ve5bu4o 19 днів тому +1

    Some coloureds choose gangsterism, it's power for a whie

  • @fanelepatrick1438
    @fanelepatrick1438 21 день тому

    Why now?

  • @breightscott
    @breightscott 22 дні тому +6

    Lol ANC is a Joke and so is Al Jamah of lets not forget EFF. PA FOR THE WIN

    • @user-gc6wx1gr7k
      @user-gc6wx1gr7k 22 дні тому

      Party of abahumbe as their manifesto it has no capacity to handle its own..
      Party of mafias interested to enrich its owners with our mines..

  • @ayandamvana6249
    @ayandamvana6249 23 дні тому +12

    EFF will fight crime ⚫🔴🟢

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 22 дні тому +5

      Criminals EFF

    • @user-gc6wx1gr7k
      @user-gc6wx1gr7k 22 дні тому +3

      Chest pain's..

    • @ferasmus1
      @ferasmus1 20 днів тому +3

      Pay back the VBS stolen money @ EFF

    • @ayandamvana6249
      @ayandamvana6249 19 днів тому

      @@ferasmus1 You being the only one still on VBS should tell you 🤣🤣🤣 Either you're behind or you're dumb. You decide

  • @thandolwethumlamla2740
    @thandolwethumlamla2740 16 днів тому

    the DA boertjie has astrong racist character and we would never trust him

  • @moosesnWoop
    @moosesnWoop 23 дні тому +2

    IDK how cele can defend his work

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 22 дні тому

      Cele His crazy Minister His defending himself absoluut nonsense speeched less full óf lies with corruption all those ANC Leaders Exitpolls

  • @user-ni2db7vf3q
    @user-ni2db7vf3q 23 дні тому +19

    Malema for president

    • @HemiJB91
      @HemiJB91 22 дні тому +3

      Lol might as well vote anc

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 22 дні тому

      EFF are losing votes

    • @BeleniYara-ow2zq
      @BeleniYara-ow2zq 20 днів тому +1

      EFF 🇿🇦💯🔥❤🌟 is ready to govern this country
      My vote belong to EFF ❤ 🇿🇦

  • @YongaShologu-he9jj
    @YongaShologu-he9jj 21 день тому +1

    Monday we want all the presidents not just party members we want to see ramaphosas ability to debate

  • @mohaleSlebea776
    @mohaleSlebea776 20 днів тому +2

    The DA biggest disappointment is that they deliver services to areas that are fully developed and leave those that less developed.

  • @glynisstevens7638
    @glynisstevens7638 18 днів тому

    What rubbish that western cape is excluding people

  • @zandigaga393
    @zandigaga393 22 дні тому +5

    DA 👎👎

    • @badboy15nd
      @badboy15nd 20 днів тому +1

      The DA is the only political party that can save South Africa.❤

    • @carl4017
      @carl4017 15 днів тому

      And when DA is gone then there will be no province to run to

    • @zandigaga393
      @zandigaga393 15 днів тому

      @carl4017 Services only stay within the boarders of an urban suburb in any DA ran municipality especially in the western cape

    • @carl4017
      @carl4017 15 днів тому

      @@zandigaga393 you mean services go to the people paying for those services within those urban areas. Large majority of DAs spending go on informal settlements despite the fact that they don't always pay for the services. If rate payers don't get serviced, they leave. How else do you expect the DA to keep rate payers in wp without giving them what they paid for?

  • @TheGuitarNewby
    @TheGuitarNewby 22 дні тому

    The fact of the matter is that only one of the panelists actually do work on the ground, and are involved in the communities. The rest are just yapping rhetoric.

  • @valsables5299
    @valsables5299 20 днів тому

    DONT BE SO JEALOUS OF THE ANC

  • @mohaleSlebea776
    @mohaleSlebea776 20 днів тому

    Even those who do not want to admit know that The EFF is the only capacitated Organisation to lead SA

  • @babolico9354
    @babolico9354 18 днів тому +1

    EFF VIVA EFF 2024

  • @kgomotsomfisa7038
    @kgomotsomfisa7038 22 дні тому +8

    EFF all the way

  • @user-ni2db7vf3q
    @user-ni2db7vf3q 23 дні тому +9

    Vivha eff

  • @LehlohonoloCalf
    @LehlohonoloCalf 20 днів тому

    viva ANC

  • @valsables5299
    @valsables5299 20 днів тому

    THE ANC IS BOBAAS😂

  • @zandigaga393
    @zandigaga393 22 дні тому +1

    💛🖤💚Viva ANC

  • @ayandaquku900
    @ayandaquku900 19 днів тому

    Benzele bani?only white rich people, PANTSI NGE DDDDAAAA...DA PANTSI, VIVA MKONTO VIVA, FORWARD NGE MK PARTY PAMBILI ASIJIKI ASOYIKI SIYAYA, ASIBOYIKI SIYABAFUNA, AMANDLA

  • @BeleniYara-ow2zq
    @BeleniYara-ow2zq 20 днів тому

    I hope you didn't use money for this useless debate
    Even school kids could debate much better than those political parties except the EFF
    EFF 🇿🇦 EFF ❤

  • @TheReintech
    @TheReintech 17 днів тому

    This is a waste of time

  • @user-ds4mt9hf2z
    @user-ds4mt9hf2z 13 днів тому

    We have dumped all non anc votes so that only anc wins viva anc viva

  • @icno3508
    @icno3508 23 дні тому +3

    29:15 HIGH QUALITY POLITICIAN 🏆

  • @khanyiso514
    @khanyiso514 23 дні тому +8

    VivaEFF viva!!❤❤❤

    • @user-bt6ex7kw5v
      @user-bt6ex7kw5v 23 дні тому

      Rubbish EFF adding to crime with its foreigners

  • @blueberryhill6948
    @blueberryhill6948 23 дні тому +3

    The province to lead all provinces ❤❤❤❤ The Western Cape 💅🏾🫶🏽💅🏾🫶🏽👍🏽