creosl electrek.co/2019/01/02/electric-car-sales-norway-2018/ It says over 147k cars registered in 2018 in Norway and over 30% were electric just in 2018 Over 63% of Norway has electric cars
@@thatyellowguy64 ~45% of all NEW cars sold are electric, there's around 7% electric cars overall. 2.7 million cars of which 194 thousand are electric. elbil.no/elbilstatistikk/
@@rkan2 I just informed myself what those are and i have to say that this sounds like a good idea. You would only need a small pump to inflate those rubber bags, might be more efficient than to melt the snow.
Mad@Gaming A static anything (heating element) will be much more durable. There is a reason why MOST small airplanes that only fly visually don't have them...
@@rkan2 this is a California car just as a cheap solution fill a spray bottle with windshield washer fluid and spray that on the frozen parts it should de ice without damaging outside parts.
wow, it was -14 in the morning yesterday in Stockholm! hope you had a great trip bjorn and i hope i can start moderate more again. i do not have too much work to do right now! thanks for the constant entertainment! /Love
Bjorn jacks up the heat and then complains when it uses electricity... doesn’t even use the heated seats. The Fiat 500e does what it’s supposed to do just great! It’s better than a LEAF that’s for sure.
Darn Compliance Cars with those silly metal sticks. Come back to states soon! I'm not good with spicy food but looked good. Love these impromptu style videos.
I used to love coming to Oslo every 6 months years ago. Anyway, I think, as a minimum, they should put a small spring-loaded lid/cap over the actual charging socket, for cars in Scandinavia, because of when people get the charge door icerd up like you did at the airport. Thing is, sure you can drive along with it open, but would you really want to get lots of dirt in there?
I noticed when preheating the car that you did not choose the setting to recirculate the air. Shouldn’t that save some energy to recirculate the warm air rather than constantly heating fresh but cold air? It can sometimes lead to fogging the windows but you can switch back to fresh air briefly and the windows will clear.
Without a gasoline engine to heat the car figuring out the most energy-efficient configuration for winter provides its own challenge. In an ICE turning off AC (using the OFF button) is the obvious choice to save energy, the engine still heats the car while consuming less gas, because it doesn't have to run the compressor. You just get hot air from the radiator. But what happens in an EV in this case? Does it still heat the cabin at all?
@@MayContainJoe An EV's cabin heater is most likely carried out by Heat Strips. Cars like Nissan Leaf have Heat Strips and a heat pump. However, Bjorn had the heater on AUTO, and I guess Fiat didnt program it to recirc based on temp delta between target and current cabin temp.
Drive faster! If the fiat uses a large amount of energy to keep warm proportional to general consumption. Reduce driving time by traveling at higher speed.
I was curious, so I "mathed the shit out of it" ... the 500e heater is 5kw max resistive, over a 60 mile stretch: driving 60mph(@240wh/mile) is 14.4kwh, driving 70mph(@290wh/mile) is 17.4kwh, saving 9 mins of heater run-time, 9min of heater runtime is 0.75kwh savings, but you just spent 3kwh going faster ... because air resistance is a jerk. (I think at a much slower speed, where rolling resistance is the biggest enemy, this would be true, but that might be around 30mph) (Edit: 500e has active battery management/heating, which looks to be a separate 5kw system, so 1.5kwh combined heating savings, but a 3kwh air resistance loss ... that means the difference from 50-60mph may balance out, so 55mph might be the optimal speed)
if you drive faster, your car will be in contact with more cold air flowing around it, thereby cooling the car even more. If the speed increases substantially, there will be a point at which the friction of air will increase the temperature (but that probably requires supersonic speed).
OMG! A chihuahua!!! I'm in Texas, we don't get snow, but it's nothing to have 110F and hotter in the summer. I'm wondering if it would suck the battery life out of the car, too?
Hello I recently purchased a fiat 500e, after 3 months of operation there were no complaints about the car, I traveled almost every day. The other day, the train warned me about a low voltage of 12V battery, I did not pay attention, and this morning the car did not turn on (a red battery caught fire on the display) and Service Electric Vehicle System, while the car was 95% charged. I recharged up to 100% in parallel and recharged 12V battery, the car turned on and showed "ready", but the error "Service Electric Vehicle System" did not disappear, I rode and saw that everything in the car works in my usual mode, only the Service Electric indicator Vehicle System " What can you advise, I will be very grateful.
It's truly the worst EV ever made I think. No Fast Charge, no battery warmer, no battery cooler, extreamly low milage, extreamly low range. It's just an absolute horrible vehicle. Buy a Hyundai Ioniq Electric :)
eldiablooooo you are so misinformed and wrong. There is a battery heater and cooler (liquid and AC cooled). The range is better than a gen 1 leaf and it’s a ton of fun to drive.
@@foobarturkey I've seen all the movies he put out about this car, I would never recommend it to anyone. We have a Hyundai Ioniq Electric it's fantastic. We never have the kind of problems that this car has. I mean who builds a electric vehicle with max 6 kW charge capability?
@@eldiablooooo 90% of the EVs in America have a 6kW max AC charge capability... The car is great and owners love them. Some LEAFs only have 3kW. *No* LEAFs have a heated/cooled battery like the 500e. Maybe you should check other reviews on the car. Entire drivetrain is engineered by Bosch.
@@foobarturkey OMG... The leafs can at least be fast charged once in a while. The 500e doesn't even have DC fast charging available. It's a commute car store to home or work to home if you live right next to work... When you don't have DC charging capabilities then you should at least have 22-43kW fast AC charging! It's hastily made and badly designed.
At least you cleared also the roof of the car. I see so many people here in Belgium driving with huge amounts of snow on the roof. Funny to see all that snow going forward onto the windscreen when they brake more heavily, idiots. Although this Fiat is not a great EV it is a great car for normal commute.
Hei Bjørn. so if you are away for 2 weeks on a vacation and your car is plugged in on that parking lot, does it mean it is charging all the time? Is it ok for the battery?
Bor på Jessheim, har min nærmeste familie på Årnes og jobber i Oslo. Kjører samme strekning som denne jevnlig med Renault Zoe, men med 500e virker det nesten som en dagstur.
I may be the only fiat 500e enthusiast here. I made an agreement with my wife that when I lost weight I would buy my dream car...which happened to be a fiat 500. I'm now 220lbs down and I've owned mine for 5 months.
@@Michael-cu1hi I like the 500e. It should make a great little town car provided that it can be regularly home charged over night. And since BMW took the original Mini and turned it into a tank, and Fiat recreated the original 500 and just made it a little bigger but not a tank, it has unrivalled cuteness.
Leaving a 500E plugged in for a week at the airport at 100% charge when its minus 20 or worse? Sheeiiiiiiiiiit that's terrible for the battery's degradation. 😁
@@PG-gs5vb You dont really have a better option at th airport, so I kind of was kidding, but keeping a battery consistantly charging up to 100% is the greatest cause of range degradation. (although 80% is often stated, ideally you should not go past 70% for long term battery health) Consistantly plugged in while outside in the elements will be hardest on the battery.
@@johnr.1592 Low temperature and high SOC isn't nearly as bad as high temperature and high SOC. Charging at low temperatures can cause lithium plating, which is bad, but the BMS should limit charging power so that doesn't happen. The battery life statistics for Norway are *way* better than, say, Arizona. So, basically, battery degradation isn't nearly as much of a concern here as elsewhere.
@@espenha Yes, hot charging is worse than cold charging, which is worse than mild temperature charging. I also agree that a robust BMS will do a good job protecting the battery, (I just dont think Dodge's compliance car is very likely to have a robust BMS). I'm very much enjoying Bjorn's vids, I think in particular he does the "Compare 'X fact' between 'Y number' of electric vehicles" video better than anyone else on youtube. Spreading great info is great for the understanding in the general populace, leading to better experience and higher future ev adoption rates. Proper charging practices and range limits is still something that is beyond even most EV owners. Bjorn spelling it out that the 108k mile Leaf with 50+% degradation is most likely because the previous owner charged it twice a day to 100% after short drives... thats great info that I hope continues to be hammered home by him. "Buy the car that will double your real daily range needs and then aim to keep your s.o.c. between 20 and 70%" etc. etc.
Christ I have to worry about my phone going flat then the car going flat , stuff that stick to a nice easy diesel and if get low 1 min to fill then crack on
Well... It is after all... a European car... Winter operation should NOT have a great effect ... Shiiiiiiiit seems to be your favorite word sir....😜✌️😂 Or is it SCHMUTZ ...?😜✌️😂 Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
@@reggiebuffat I get that. But if the car is standing unused for 11 days it must be a shitty battery if it completely discharges without anything draining it.
@@dangerdackel It differs from car to car, but some of them have quite a heavy phantom power draw even when turned off. Some Teslas can end up drawing 60 watts on average when the car is just parked, which turns into about 16 kWh when parked for 11 days.
Hi Björn, would you like to let some German Guy check Optimus Prime? He is a ceritified technican for Tesla's. (including: Sharp eye for the cause of wind noise at 230km/h; readout of: DC/AC Charges / "real" degradation / balancing; knows about charging speed limitation at supercharger) Would be very interesting. Maybe when you are in Germany on the Autobahn again. ua-cam.com/video/90qoyo8Kx9o/v-deo.html Keep up your great content! Greetings Tim
It is pretty cool to have an airport long term parking place with power plugs already available!
Noway loves there electric cars. I think like 30%+ of there cars are electric
creosl electrek.co/2019/01/02/electric-car-sales-norway-2018/
It says over 147k cars registered in 2018 in Norway and over 30% were electric just in 2018
Over 63% of Norway has electric cars
I've heard that in Norway, a lot of spaces have plugs. Not only for electric cars, but for ICE cars to plug in a heater to stop the engine freezing.
@@jameswhite2792 I saw a Canadian make a similar comment about block heaters and long-term parking. It's probably common above 60 N.
@@thatyellowguy64 ~45% of all NEW cars sold are electric, there's around 7% electric cars overall. 2.7 million cars of which 194 thousand are electric.
elbil.no/elbilstatistikk/
Honestly I like when it is a challenge for you to reach your destination. It is very entertaining to watch. Glad you made it home safe!
NO SPOILERS! :p
yes bjorn warm snow is called rain :)
Dolly looked like she took the trip to Cali too - shiver, shiver! Keep her warm!
11:03 Poor Dolly! That's when it hurts because you are shivering so hard.
Hahahahahaha so diplomatic with Marcusbil.....good boy !!!!
Winter packet should probably also include heated chargeing port after seeing this :D
Mad@Gaming Add a pneumatic air boot like on some small airplanes!
@@rkan2 I just informed myself what those are and i have to say that this sounds like a good idea. You would only need a small pump to inflate those rubber bags, might be more efficient than to melt the snow.
Mad@Gaming A static anything (heating element) will be much more durable. There is a reason why MOST small airplanes that only fly visually don't have them...
@@rkan2 this is a California car just as a cheap solution fill a spray bottle with windshield washer fluid and spray that on the frozen parts it should de ice without damaging outside parts.
Welcome back uncle Bjorn 😁
wow, it was -14 in the morning yesterday in Stockholm! hope you had a great trip bjorn and i hope i can start moderate more again. i do not have too much work to do right now!
thanks for the constant entertainment!
/Love
Great video. I like to see your struggles with the 500e. :)
Another great video - never fail to entertain.
Bjorn jacks up the heat and then complains when it uses electricity... doesn’t even use the heated seats. The Fiat 500e does what it’s supposed to do just great! It’s better than a LEAF that’s for sure.
Darn Compliance Cars with those silly metal sticks. Come back to states soon! I'm not good with spicy food but looked good. Love these impromptu style videos.
This morning -27"C south of Finland..Lappland -35"C...
kai lahti Perfect EV weather!
Nice road trip with that car....
It looks like you like this car bjørn !
I used to love coming to Oslo every 6 months years ago. Anyway, I think, as a minimum, they should put a small spring-loaded lid/cap over the actual charging socket, for cars in Scandinavia, because of when people get the charge door icerd up like you did at the airport. Thing is, sure you can drive along with it open, but would you really want to get lots of dirt in there?
I noticed when preheating the car that you did not choose the setting to recirculate the air. Shouldn’t that save some energy to recirculate the warm air rather than constantly heating fresh but cold air? It can sometimes lead to fogging the windows but you can switch back to fresh air briefly and the windows will clear.
Without a gasoline engine to heat the car figuring out the most energy-efficient configuration for winter provides its own challenge. In an ICE turning off AC (using the OFF button) is the obvious choice to save energy, the engine still heats the car while consuming less gas, because it doesn't have to run the compressor. You just get hot air from the radiator.
But what happens in an EV in this case? Does it still heat the cabin at all?
I haven't studied all EVs, but some do engage the recirc automatically regardless of setting when the temp gets too low.
@@MayContainJoe An EV's cabin heater is most likely carried out by Heat Strips. Cars like Nissan Leaf have Heat Strips and a heat pump. However, Bjorn had the heater on AUTO, and I guess Fiat didnt program it to recirc based on temp delta between target and current cabin temp.
Drive faster! If the fiat uses a large amount of energy to keep warm proportional to general consumption. Reduce driving time by traveling at higher speed.
I was curious, so I "mathed the shit out of it" ... the 500e heater is 5kw max resistive, over a 60 mile stretch: driving 60mph(@240wh/mile) is 14.4kwh, driving 70mph(@290wh/mile) is 17.4kwh, saving 9 mins of heater run-time, 9min of heater runtime is 0.75kwh savings, but you just spent 3kwh going faster ... because air resistance is a jerk. (I think at a much slower speed, where rolling resistance is the biggest enemy, this would be true, but that might be around 30mph) (Edit: 500e has active battery management/heating, which looks to be a separate 5kw system, so 1.5kwh combined heating savings, but a 3kwh air resistance loss ... that means the difference from 50-60mph may balance out, so 55mph might be the optimal speed)
@D.O.A. i am ready for the crazy asian math!
Dolly says "Drive faster daddy. I'm cold and want to get back to my warm house!"
if you drive faster, your car will be in contact with more cold air flowing around it,
thereby cooling the car even more.
If the speed increases substantially, there will be a point at which the friction of air will increase the temperature (but that probably requires supersonic speed).
@@brantwedel If fiat would allow taps for human blood to circulate through battery heating system, your math would be out the window ;D
5:59 battery charge: nice round number :-)
OMG! A chihuahua!!! I'm in Texas, we don't get snow, but it's nothing to have 110F and hotter in the summer. I'm wondering if it would suck the battery life out of the car, too?
Mine is coming soon
Can’t wait ! EV is future !
Great video! Reminds me of the good old days! ;) Please do a trip with the e-Up.
Hello
I recently purchased a fiat 500e, after 3 months of operation there were no complaints about the car, I traveled almost every day.
The other day, the train warned me about a low voltage of 12V battery, I did not pay attention, and this morning the car did not turn on (a red battery caught fire on the display) and Service Electric Vehicle System, while the car was 95% charged. I recharged up to 100% in parallel and recharged 12V battery, the car turned on and showed "ready", but the error "Service Electric Vehicle System" did not disappear, I rode and saw that everything in the car works in my usual mode, only the Service Electric indicator Vehicle System "
What can you advise, I will be very grateful.
what is the brand of your sweat shirt thanks
I didn't know fiat 500 has an electric variant. Thank you for this informative video.
It's truly the worst EV ever made I think. No Fast Charge, no battery warmer, no battery cooler, extreamly low milage, extreamly low range. It's just an absolute horrible vehicle.
Buy a Hyundai Ioniq Electric :)
eldiablooooo you are so misinformed and wrong. There is a battery heater and cooler (liquid and AC cooled). The range is better than a gen 1 leaf and it’s a ton of fun to drive.
@@foobarturkey I've seen all the movies he put out about this car, I would never recommend it to anyone. We have a Hyundai Ioniq Electric it's fantastic. We never have the kind of problems that this car has. I mean who builds a electric vehicle with max 6 kW charge capability?
@@eldiablooooo 90% of the EVs in America have a 6kW max AC charge capability... The car is great and owners love them. Some LEAFs only have 3kW. *No* LEAFs have a heated/cooled battery like the 500e. Maybe you should check other reviews on the car. Entire drivetrain is engineered by Bosch.
@@foobarturkey OMG... The leafs can at least be fast charged once in a while. The 500e doesn't even have DC fast charging available. It's a commute car store to home or work to home if you live right next to work... When you don't have DC charging capabilities then you should at least have 22-43kW fast AC charging! It's hastily made and badly designed.
500e roadtrips are the best! I made it to the final charger at 0% 😆
What is the name of the app at 7:30?
What happened to all the gas stations in Norway? Since there are so many E vehicles, what are the fuel prices, did they went down?
I have a question, is it just Tesla that recommends charging to 80-90%? Is that different in other EV's?
Thanks for the video, one question, is there any app that works with OBD2 to get my fiat energy consumption and other battery details ?
At least you cleared also the roof of the car. I see so many people here in Belgium driving with huge amounts of snow on the roof. Funny to see all that snow going forward onto the windscreen when they brake more heavily, idiots.
Although this Fiat is not a great EV it is a great car for normal commute.
Hei Bjørn. so if you are away for 2 weeks on a vacation and your car is plugged in on that parking lot, does it mean it is charging all the time? Is it ok for the battery?
Out of curiosity: Does it help to let the car covered in snow while preheating? Or is the insulation effect to low?
You are lucky bjorn we had - 4 fereinheight so after a week of not driving my doors are frozen on both cars
Fiat 500 E is awesome electric car
Bor på Jessheim, har min nærmeste familie på Årnes og jobber i Oslo. Kjører samme strekning som denne jevnlig med Renault Zoe, men med 500e virker det nesten som en dagstur.
Guys I'm watching Björns videos occasionally. What happened with his Tesla? Is it in service, or what? Thanks for the answers :)
It's in service
200.000Km service, hopefully they change the "disgusting seat" while they are at it. No Nimber any more, so perfect time for new seat.
After all this fancy stuff I really missed the Fiat videos LOL.
I may be the only fiat 500e enthusiast here. I made an agreement with my wife that when I lost weight I would buy my dream car...which happened to be a fiat 500. I'm now 220lbs down and I've owned mine for 5 months.
@@Michael-cu1hi I like the 500e. It should make a great little town car provided that it can be regularly home charged over night. And since BMW took the original Mini and turned it into a tank, and Fiat recreated the original 500 and just made it a little bigger but not a tank, it has unrivalled cuteness.
I hate this "Hold to Reset" in the gauge so much....
6m02 - a fellow RealCalc user, I see! I prefer the RPN mode myself. Great little app nonetheless.
I was thinking the exact same thing. I love RealCalc in RPN mode since I cut my teeth on an HP-35 many years ago.
Don't the heated seats work?
Hazzer2007 don’t know why he refuses to use them...
Leaving a 500E plugged in for a week at the airport at 100% charge when its minus 20 or worse? Sheeiiiiiiiiiit that's terrible for the battery's degradation. 😁
I don't think that the ~2kW power that schuko provides would do much harm. It's more like for maintaining the charge.
@@PG-gs5vb You dont really have a better option at th airport, so I kind of was kidding, but keeping a battery consistantly charging up to 100% is the greatest cause of range degradation. (although 80% is often stated, ideally you should not go past 70% for long term battery health)
Consistantly plugged in while outside in the elements will be hardest on the battery.
@@johnr.1592 Low temperature and high SOC isn't nearly as bad as high temperature and high SOC. Charging at low temperatures can cause lithium plating, which is bad, but the BMS should limit charging power so that doesn't happen. The battery life statistics for Norway are *way* better than, say, Arizona. So, basically, battery degradation isn't nearly as much of a concern here as elsewhere.
@@espenha Yes, hot charging is worse than cold charging, which is worse than mild temperature charging. I also agree that a robust BMS will do a good job protecting the battery, (I just dont think Dodge's compliance car is very likely to have a robust BMS).
I'm very much enjoying Bjorn's vids, I think in particular he does the "Compare 'X fact' between 'Y number' of electric vehicles" video better than anyone else on youtube. Spreading great info is great for the understanding in the general populace, leading to better experience and higher future ev adoption rates.
Proper charging practices and range limits is still something that is beyond even most EV owners.
Bjorn spelling it out that the 108k mile Leaf with 50+% degradation is most likely because the previous owner charged it twice a day to 100% after short drives... thats great info that I hope continues to be hammered home by him. "Buy the car that will double your real daily range needs and then aim to keep your s.o.c. between 20 and 70%" etc. etc.
It's cold ! -5 LOL for sure !
Are you Canadian?
@@bjornnyland no French
Any chance you discuss these Zaptec load balancing chargers once? Looks like an interesting solution.
where is optimus prime havnt seen him in a long time?
He's in the future.
Annual service stop.
Why are you not driving your Tesla?
Christ I have to worry about my phone going flat then the car going flat , stuff that stick to a nice easy diesel and if get low 1 min to fill then crack on
What a shock
That's snow joke lol
>^..^< Welcome home to all three of you...........
Well...
It is after all... a European car...
Winter operation should NOT have a great effect ...
Shiiiiiiiit seems to be your favorite word sir....😜✌️😂
Or is it SCHMUTZ ...?😜✌️😂
Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Being an EV novice, why leave it plugged in for 11 days?
@@reggiebuffat I get that. But if the car is standing unused for 11 days it must be a shitty battery if it completely discharges without anything draining it.
@@dangerdackel It differs from car to car, but some of them have quite a heavy phantom power draw even when turned off. Some Teslas can end up drawing 60 watts on average when the car is just parked, which turns into about 16 kWh when parked for 11 days.
Because I was in USA for 11 days. And I didn't feel like coming back after 10 hours to unplug. There are tons of slow Schukos there.
@@bjornnyland feel like you could have at least sky dived back to unplug the car and swam all the way to Cali. Poor excuse Bjørn.
WOW 2018 Fiat 500e MSRP from $32995
Yeah, and can find them for about 5 grand when its 1 or 2 years old.
-5 C is not that cold
*_Oh dang, SHIEEET..._*
Come back to the U.S.!
Dolly!!!
Is he with someone or does he always speak in 3rd person?
He's with his wife they were on their way back from a trip to California
120km range... no electric car for me then. I drive 300 per day to work
Shiiiieeet :D
Slow ? The speedlimit was 60 at the pace you droce at 60 :D so slow is a good thing :).
😊👍
Don’t you miss California yet?
first like from me))
Hi Björn,
would you like to let some German Guy check Optimus Prime?
He is a ceritified technican for Tesla's. (including: Sharp eye for the cause of wind noise at 230km/h; readout of: DC/AC Charges / "real" degradation / balancing; knows about charging speed limitation at supercharger)
Would be very interesting. Maybe when you are in Germany on the Autobahn again.
ua-cam.com/video/90qoyo8Kx9o/v-deo.html
Keep up your great content!
Greetings Tim
Cant you just get rid of that compliance car already?
I know rigth? It's such a shitty shitty car... I HATE IT...
Noooooo, I love that car! Just not for road trips
70km'h on a motorway? Don't you annoy the people behind you, Bjorn?
No. This is Norway. Everyone and their mothers drive slow.
six views .dddd
this 500e is horrible