The TRAGIC DOWNFALL of GEOFF COLLINS (He Was the Savior of Georgia Tech Football)
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Geoff Collins ware hired to transition Georgia Tech football from the triple option to a modern offense, but it did not go as planned as four years later he was fired and today we will take a look at the rise and fall of coach Collins, enjoy!
My last game as a student was the Georgia game in Bobby Dodd in 2021. Collins had all the energy but just could not produce any on field results. I hate seeing how far we’ve fallen from being somewhat competitive against uGA every year to now just the absolute doormat. We’re a program with real history and could be solid, but it’s going to be a tough rebuild.
@Chandler Russell GT’s academic standards make them untenable as an SEC team in the modern game. One Vanderbilt is enough.
nice name bro, tough and relatable story.
As a Georgia fan I really want Tech to become competitive in the acc. Clean old fashioned hate has become a punch line instead of a great rivalry
This 100%. Our rivals being at a similar competitive level makes the rivalry more fun in the long run.
As a young Tech student, I always looked forward to football games, especially given our history. After two seasons under Collins, I can't lie when I say I dread football games. It's embarrassing. And for the few students who do show up on Saturdays at Bobby Dodd, all we have the courage to yell is "F*** Geoff Collins" on every 3-and-out we have, and trust me, we have plenty. It's gotten so bad, that our marching band only plays our fight song (touchdown anthem) whenever we convert first downs, since we never score. It's tough, but only up from here. Yo Yackets.
The best formula for GT to compete against the pinnacle of power 5 teams is to go back to running a spread option attack with modern passing concepts.
The answer is Brian Bohannon or Jeff Monken.
When you win games, better recruits generally come.
And if you lower your academic standards, you will get better football players, but GT isn’t down to clown like that. A majority of the alumni have little interest in supporting the Athletic Dept, to be honest. Georgia had it’s period of being hamstrung by Reverend Richt’s Zero Tolerance Moral Elitism, then the AD and boosters realize that they are dismissing top athletes for violations, that other schools were not even reporting publicly. Schools like LSU under Miles and Florida under Spurrier and Meyer attracted and retained better athletes and enjoyed more success as a result.
The same concept applies to Tech. It’s up to each institution to decide the identity of their football program and the first step is establishing academic and moral standards.
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I like the idea of a spread option or pistol option offense.
@@charliecowan3875Care to offer insight?
Geoff Collins should have been fired after last year’s Georgia game. This year’s season was over the minute they lost double digits to Clemson, (which I predicted!) They want win another game this season!
I swear man it’s so sad that this era of Tech football has now made people believe we are a Vandy or Duke type program. We are not. Georgia Tech is a place with a history of winning and one of the longest active bowl streaks before it ended in 2015. People show their ignorance regarding college football when they say stuff like that considering Tech has not only won an ACC championship in the last 20 years (Miami has not for example), but we have been to two orange bowls, won one of them and have gone to a bowl game 17 out of the last 22 years if you count 2022 as not going to be bowl eligible
What did you think was going to happen positively bringing in a defensive coordinator with very limited head coaching experience to a school who does not support the football program financially. I mean the commitment is just not there I don't care what your recruiting area is like there's no commitment to facilities ,salaries for assistant coaches that even resemble a 21st century football program . You get what you pay for.........
@@gooser__43 to get one is minimum half mil to keep one is a million a year . And GT is not going to pay that. They're like the Vanderbilt of the ACC they'll take the millions 💰 from the conference asso& tv payout but refuse to put anything of substance back into the athletic program.
I knew he was terrible in his very first game when he had his team lifting weights on the field before the game vs Clemson 😂
As a UGA fan there were times where I got nervous that Collins was building a good team and weirdly enough it was kind of exciting I want the rivalry to mean something again. It’s too bad it didn’t materialize
As a second year AE major at Tech, I have definitely seen the decrease in morale in not just the fans but also the team. They want to be there but with the lack of overall support it's tough to keep up any momentum and I feel there was a lack of reviving student support made by the coaching staff or football program in general.
It’s almost like hype and branding doesn’t win football games. Who could have possibly predicted this besides absolutely everyone?
As a lifelong Tech fan, I believe everyone bought into the hype about Collins but I completely agree that we needed a more experienced coach to transition from the triple option. I wouldn't say that Collins was doomed from the start, he coached more waiting for bad things to happen instead of being proactive and making good things happen. Collins coached not to lose as opposed to coaching to win.
Even without the hindsight of the last two weeks of victories under Interim Coach Brent Key, Collins seemed either unwilling or unable to lead a team that was both disciplined or prepared to play week to week. The different quotes that he would say about building a brand and culture could be seen as nothing more than empty sentences that missed the whole point that the only culture and brand that matters is winning and building an internal infrastructure that can help with that (see Atlanta Braves organization). The phrase used car salesman seems to be the only accurate phrase of a barely decent Temple coach who talked his way into Georgia Tech.
Georgia Tech was on a downward slope WELL before Johnson left. As a GT fan, it was annoying seeing the triple option rain every play by him when the opposing D saw it coming from a mile away!
as a michigan fan i’m a michigan fan
Tech offers fewer than 40 majors, they’re a STEM university with little in the way of communications or sports marketing “majors” to pitch to blue chip athletes who barely scrape by on academics.
But they don't go to jail
Reading the old comments gave me a good laugh. It just shows that no one really had a clue. Turns out no one saw Brent Key as a viable option. Now we'll just have to wait and see. I sense the fan base is waking up. Things are already looking up based on Coach Key's OC and RB coach hires.
No P5 head coach would go there. Would have to get a coordinator or a lower level G5 head coach.
Collins was yet another AAC head coach who left a program where he could have stayed and been happy and been given a long leash but left for the "greener pastures" of the P5. Almost all of them have failed. Only Mike Norvell has done well, and Josh H at Tennessee have been semi successful. While Tennessee has been great, we saw Butch Jones start out 4-0 and be fired a year or so later, so the book is still out on them. It amazes me that 1) none have done better, as if you can turn Memphis or UCF into a top 25 program, how can you not do it at Nebraska or Virginia Tech or Tennessee or Arkansas? 2) these smaller programs had more talent than the programs they went to. Norvell's 2018 Memphis team would have whipped any FSU team in the last 3 years. 3) it makes me think that there must be a big difference between developing three stars and developing four and five stars. 4) I also wonder if these coaches have wished they had stayed. They were semi-gods in their town and could have done whatever they wanted. 3 years later most of them are out of a job. If they could go back in time would they do it again? Was it just the money or was it more? If Memphis had agreed to pay Norvell $5 million would he have stayed? I mean they just raised $200 million for a new facility, but two million extra for the head coach could have gotten them another new year six bowl and possibly into the Big 12.
Gary Patterson stayed at TCU and got them into the Big 12. Luke fickle stayed at Cincinnati and got them into the Big 12. Sometimes I just think that these coaches should stay where they're at, but then again if they stay too long and don't have as much success their name is no longer talked about. I know I went on a rant here but I would be curious to ask these former AAC coaches if they could go back in time if they would do it again or just be happy where they're at making two to three million a year. And I can't get around the fact that most aren't successful at bigger programs. It makes no sense if they can do it at a smaller School.
Brent Keys is off to a good start
I had high hopes for Collins... His 404 ATL marketing seemed like it was going to work by getting local GA guys to stay at Tech, but.... it didn't happen. Hope they find someone great to turn the program around. It is beyond embarrassing living among majority UGA fans...
Gotta do Herm Edwards bro. Love the videos man!
I don’t believe the rebuild will be as daunting as most make it out to be. By most metrics I’ve seen, the talent is decent (certainly well above what the results show). Now I know some of that will be gone in the transfer portal with the coaching change, but I still think the team has the talent to go bowling. The issue has always seemed like coaching. A pattern of boneheaded penalties, questionable play-calling/scheming, poor clock management, and just undisciplined mistakes.
Also, the UCF game was so freaking frustrating. The offense was actually moving the ball pretty well, but it would completely sputter the second they sniffed the redzone. They put up something like 450 yards and only had 10 points to show for it. Not the mention the 4th(!) blocked punt of the season.
Anyways, glad we’re moving on the Collins. I wish it had worked out for him, but it clearly didn’t. No clue who the answer is. Having seen Tech succeed running the spread option, I like the idea of someone like Chadwell, who runs a modernized take on it. But who knows with how the CFB landscape continues to change. At this point I just hope whoever is next can get us back to being a consistent bowl team. You know it’s going poorly when you start thinking fondly of the 7-5 Gailey equilibrium days.
I agree. Tech has talent and it shows up from time to time but it doesn't sustain throughout the game. Thats coaching. With the transfer portal and some of the current roster, it should not be that hard to get competitive quickly with the right coach.
Collins was all bark and no bite. All he did was talk about being better everyday and he did not coach. Super happy to see him gone. Deion sanders would be a interesting coach.
Herm Edwards as a definite candidate, he did well for AZ State, but the location is just not fair. Especially for recruiting.
At a place like tech, WF, Duke, etc. its all about the coaching fit. You are not going to attract many 4/5 stars for a variety of reasons. But you can win, its been done before!!!
Tech is a used car at this point. It doesn't seem like they are not invested in athletics anymore.
Can you do a video on Jeff Sims? He should be better than he is. He appears to have all the physical tools necessary to be a successful college QB. I thought he would be a Vince Young type of player but it has not happened.
my life as a Mizzou and GT fan is pretty depressing
Thankfully, we have a new coach that wants to win, unlike our former one.
i could also see them try to get bill o brian from Alabama. Honestly i think someone at Georgia Tech probably regrets leaving the SEC back in the 60's to found the Metro conference and later be independent until the ACC offered a life line as imagine the recruiting and dough you would be raking in as even Vandy still ranks up there with recruiting classes.
As part of the 80% your content is good thanks
For GT, is Frank Solich still available? Can't hurt to go after Urban Meyer.
Now a couple years removed, I wonder how older Tech fans compare the FGC years to the Bill Lewis years in the 90s..
Go back to the triple option. Shotgun formation this time and a 3-4, 4-2-5, or 3-3-5 defense. More athletes on the field.
@@gooser__43 Schools don't need outstanding talent for the shotgun formation. Most all schools run their system out of shotgun.
Scott, as a fellow Mizzou fan, are you emotionally devastated by Saturday's horrific series of humiliating blunders?
it was laughable how ridiculous that ending was
Going from the option to a pro offense takes years of different recruiting classes to put into effect. But defense shouldn’t change
I love your videos!
DEION SANDERS
The problem with schools like GT is recruiting. JUCO is their best route. They need an RPO style offense with mobile RPO QB. The pro style offense is very difficult to operate with 1 or 2 star OL. GT best strategy would be to concentrate on talented TE's. Run 12 personnel (2 TE offense) with RPO. Run short stop routes and drag routes to get 5/6 yards a pop. Hope for JUCO WR's.
He was never going to be the savior. I work in the football industry and he is a clown with little respect. GT's AD was an idiot who let a used car salesman talk him into hiring him.
As a life long tech, I am going to miss Coach. He played with all the heart and spirit of a tech. God bless his and hers and they travel through the god birth given freedoms that are tech
@@gooser__43 ““Our ‘Juice Crew’ on the sidelines, I think they had a lot of fun. I think our players definitely fed off the energy. Hopefully the [fans] noticed their contribution. We had four guys who were ‘Juice Crew’ players of the week, Jerrod Abee, Olin Broadway, Josh Tukes and Connor Hansen was over there on the sidelines getting things turned up, especially on third down, “money down,” they were doing good.”
Damn. I miss Coach C.
Deion would be an apt choice. He likes to pretend he's a good coach and the trade school likes to pretend they are a Power 5 program.
There you go! Neon Deion is the answer. Prime Time at the GT in the 404 with that ATL Attitude. Shoot.
You can't unlose to Geoff Collins
Hey guys, good news
First game after he’s gone and we win against a team that crushed us last year!
Ask Bill Callahan how going from the option to a pro style offense goes
BS on switching from option -- athletes can play when coached.
Amen
If our was Georgia Tech:
1. Hugh Freeze, Liberty HC
2. Curt Cignetti, JMU HC
3. Tom Herman, Former UT HC
4. Sean Lewis, Kent State HC
5. Dan Mullen, Former UF HC
Dan Mullen is a lousy recruiter
Good thing you’re not in charge of hiring
@@johncollins8954 Hugh Freeze ain’t a bad pick…. Not particularly a great one either 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@@muddywaters1472 he's a proven winner in the SEC. GT hired Collins who was subpar at Temple.
@@johncollins8954 I'd be a better AD than Todd Stansbury lol
Youre georgia tech, can't you get some AI coach to draw up plays, coach IBM Watson?
Had the pleasure to cover Geoff Collins at Temple University. A great guy, a man I’d want my son to play for, and a charmer. The guy knew how to talk to people. I thought he’d do great things at GT. Hope he lands on his feet.
Wonder why Derrick Moore left Tech.
The need Bobby Ross
Deion Sanders that's who needs to coach this team hands down
He is a fraud for real. All sizzle and no steak.
I ain’t a tech fan at all but they need to throw the bag at that costal coach
He reuploaded it
Collins failed because he was a recruiter that’s it he wasn’t given incentives. Yeah the first year I’ll give them that but the two after he could’ve gotten further than what he did but of course our athletic Director at that point was an idiot. The next choice is Deion Sanders. He played for the Braves played for the Falcons he can pull a ton of NIL money and he needs to bring his son and that 1# recruit as well. He would bring back the excitement back to Georgia Tech.
Hire Jeff Monken
Matt Rhule when he gets fire from Carolina this season is who I hope they go after.
It's not about who they play or whatever. So as UGA fan. This is coming from a realistic College football fan. GT has to get relevant to college football. The administrators has to take them being a power 5 school seriously. They have to let the next coach. Coach! I mean they should aleast be bowl eligible on a bad yr. They have decent talent. Idk they need a coach who is already a coach. Getting a OC or DC coach is ok. But right now I think it's bigger then that. They need to rebuild. Be consistent most importantly learn to win. Not barley beat small or other teams in other divisions. Better yet , not LOSE to them either. The next coach they get has to do a heck of alot better then Collins. Which they should, cause he sucks!
U should.do something on miami my God what is wrong with tvd
They really should finish up the season then permanently close out their football program.
UCF the coach killer
Hire Brent Key he will take us to a bowl game and win it in his first year trust me on this
Leon Sandcastle will turn GA Tech around!!
Gus Malzahn?
Lol, he looks like he could be Will Sasso's brother.
Dan Mullen?
Clay Helton
Jamey Chadwell I believe should b the guy with also being more than okay with Dell Mckgee or Monken also guys I don’t want is Charles Huff the GA State head coach or Bill the baby momma killer O’Brian
Georgia Tech should hire Bobby Petrino.his offensive mind out of this world. He isn't an elite recruiter by any means, but he is pretty good in that area, and he's already got P5 coaching experience. He had Arkansas ready to legitimately compete his last few seasons there. He is questionable as far as his personal character, but his Xs and O's are top notch.
Fuck. No.
Just get some good looking coeds to keep him happy
He is a low life
Hell no to Monken -- Why not an alumn like Ken Whisenhut
He didn't want the job after Coach PJ left, so why would he want it now when we are in an even worse position. Trust me when I say he was the *FIRST* coach on the donors and Stansbury list (especially since Todd played with him back in the day.) Godsey was second and he was straight on it as well. You have a better chance of asking Calvin, who would honestly just laugh and hang up the phone.
Just accept it'll probably be somebody like Jayme Caldwell at Costal Carolina. Tech is a very difficult place that most coaches won't feel like would be worth the stress unless it's a chance to prove something or the biggest bag of all time. Tech definitely can't afford the later at the moment.
Whisenhunt wasn't interested four years ago. I don't know why he would be interested now.
@@theleelife313 Difference following a failure vs a success - better job than offensive analysit at Penn St
@@gilmyers8653 Difference following a failure vs a success - better job than offensive analysit at Penn St
🎵Glory Glory Glory Georgia
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And to hell with Georgia Tech 🎵🎵
Typical uga fan.....can't even get the words right to their own fight song.🤣
@@rickdensmore9841 Lmao!! OK clown, we only sing it in the stands every time we play that sorry team that a high school team could whoop up on. You triggered bitch. No shipping it's not the fight song. Not the point dummy.
Used car salesman
Coach Prime is the perfect fit.
They better not touch the UGA staff.
4:42 "they were starting to devsldodkjsielodn momentum." Bruh... 😂
I hope they get orgeron to come back into college football
I dont know who would want the GT job. It's a power 5 in name only type job like Vandy in the SEC. It's worse than coaching at a decent group of 5 school.
This is a bad take. Vanderbilt has always been a bad program, GT is a program that’s been successful really up until Collins came in. No comparison between us and Vandy.
What GT and Vandy have in common is that they both have high academic standards and the majority of the best recruits would be considered subpar academically by those schools’ standards. GT is just going to have to get better at developing players and attracting better transfer portal players to get winning early. Honestly it shouldn’t be so hard to recruit for a major school in a major city like Atlanta.
Georgia tech has been far more successful than vandy. Not really a good take.
Monken. LOL LOL
He wasn’t the best but to be fair he wasn’t really gaven a fair chance to succeed Georgia tech I don’t know who would want to take the job if offered