This really has the feel of a fairly sizable logging operation. The proximity to the water for bringing in the logs. The lack of old growth trees in the area you filmed. The cut line for hauling out processed lumber. The large building which could have been the mill. Possibly it was gone through and taken apart for wood and metal scrap during one or both World Wars, explaining the lack of more artifacts.
Imagine yourself as a kid coming across that when you're playing out in the woods. You would feel like you had gone into another world in another time. Awesome!
Upstate New York we often found structures like this out in the middle of a forest. That whole geographical area is glacial, so the old timers used what they had handy as building material -- rocks. Entire fields were outlined in the same rock you both found there, it was common to outline a field with it and change the dimensions when there was a need to. Building foundations had rocks for the cellar, it outlasted the wooden structures above them. Yeah, it would give you the creeps to find it out in the middle of nowhere. But it probably pre-dates the American Revolution.
I just wanted to tell you that my husband and I have watched nearly all your videos the last couple of weeks and thoroughly enjoyed everyone if them. We really appreciate the fact that there is no foul language and if someone does curse you bleep it out. We love metal detecting and have watched a few other channels but when the cursing begins we find some other channel. Glad we found yours. Can't wait for a new adventure soon! Blessings!!!
I really loved going on this adventure with you guys. Before I got sick hiking and exploring is something that Idid all the time and I miss so very much but watching your videos brings me right with you. Please don't stop lol Just thank you young man and your buddy too.
This is one of my very favorite videos on your channel. Rich in historical beauty, you could almost see a trading store, a hotel of sorts and stables and outbuildings. Very well done.
Why don’t you guys pack a tent and camp out where you stopped, this video so you could continue the hike and explore more. Love your videos keep them coming.
That's a good thing about Internet.... as one can, kind of, do it vicariously through other's. I'm just too old & knackered now, but as a young woman I use to go mud larking on rivers & panning for gold in Sofala, Australia. Much fun & fascination
Oh my goodness, that car! I always ran the woods around our place when I was a kid. Came across a very old (large Pines growing in it) sugar sand road. On that road was a really old car, maybe 1920s. It had two large gauge bullet holes in the trunk, which were only 2 or 3 inches apart, and it had been set on fire. It was extremely rusty and deteriorated. I was always too afraid to pry that trunk open, but what's left of the car is still there and the trunk is still intact - 50 years later. Might actually end up checking it out one day. Creepy though, because you know there is a body in it. Only 2 close bullet holes and burned. Still no sign of anyone else ever finding it. Never told my dad because he would have made me stay out of the woods. Fate worse than death for this Tomboy. LOL
Great adventure in the GMNF, When I saw what you called a canyon. The actual name is a "Cut" Used most often on rail lines. The width of the cut would indicate a narrow gage line. When you pointed out the rock drill evidence I had an approximate date to that area. Post Civil war !! The rock drill holes tell me High Explosive was used in the blasting of the cut, verses low explosive, (Black Powder). Since Dynamite, was not invented until the late 1860s by Alfred Nobel in Europe. it is easy to come up with the approx. no earlier than date. The Sedan you came across is definitely the 1920s, So the rail line existed between 1870s to 1920. My best guess. The filling of the valley with water would probably post date the 1920s. Probably during the Great Depression with the CCC, and Roosevelt's recovery efforts. The massive foundations you came across say Farm Site.probably multi-family or community built. With the foundation of a very large barn in evidence. Although the foundation is rectangular. Many of the old round barns in VT were built similarly. Excellent video Brad and Eddy. Thank you for sharing. :-)).
I grew up in the Amish country and I do smell a very early 1500 to1600's Amish settlement there which would explain back to back barns and possibly the nearby cemetary. My kin mention a VT. area settlement called Liotee is mentioned in our families history of a huge settlement of Amish and native Americans living together. The winters were so cold in the 1500 to 1600's the Indians learned some of our metal crafting and how to build a STONE & EARTHEN fireplace that held the heat in the building. The lack of a decaying MORTAR like we would use dates this to the 1500 1600's where they would have used Animal furs and mud as a mortar... My northern Amish kin adopted the round structure building from our native Indian friends. Often in the northern part of the USA at the front of an ELDERS house was the round stone structure that would contain flowers and herbs sort of an elevated seasonal garden of sorts. The place fits the descript of the long lost large town of Liotee. Liotee was said to have 7 barns and Liotee is a slang for big barn town. The Pennsylvania Dutch had one such town which eventually became known by it's English name of Lancaster Pa.
Seems like a pretty normal old New England settlement to me. While I enjoyed the history. Having grown up in New England the woods here are absolutely full of these old settlements. Most of them abandoned around World War Two when less productive farmland was abandoned
There are other stone structures that are much older than usual New England and Penn Dutch settler ones. Check Jim Vieira's slide show on YT for more about them. It's pretty interesting stuff. And then of course there's always Mystery Hill or America's Stonehenge
My wife and I detect this was a military base , could be revolutionary war. It takes tons of manpower to construct such structures. Powder magazines , etc. also provisions for an army, in cellars to avoid freezing. It begs investigation of revolutionary war bases in southern Vt. being on Nat forest land, it has historic significance. The quality of the stone work after so long shows it was well constructed. The trappe rock doorway was awesome. Thanks for your posts, no matter how dated.
Hope you guys will use some snowed-out days to check in the library to find out the history of this site! If it's in the National Forest, maybe there might be history of the area in the land acquisitions for the park. I know in Georgia, there were a number of cemeteries that were to be inundated by a Corp of Engineers lake that were moved to "dry" land in a community nearby. Documentation of the removal was in Corp of Engineers records for that area. Keep up the very interesting work! VT is a LONG way from GA, but it's fascinating to see how many Spanish (or fake Spanish) coins you've turned up. Wonder if the poor Tory soldiers had been paid in the fake currency!
Local historical society knows where and what these are, Vt has a lot of old foundation and Wells root cellars. The people who built were part of tge community, sheep families or commodity sales. Mysterious to these guy S Woodstock has a site some call moons arc because they seem to think it is some druid ruins It belonged to a man named moon Weird People wrote mysterious books about theory of where it came from I guess they forget to research Windsor county and town history
Guys, I research in upper PA. and come across these stone structures all the time, which I believe to be old farms and the houses , but that giant structure you found blows my mind. Happy hunting GMMD and nice work on the quality of the the video.
I love all these old finds. Growing up in the military i saw a lot of history. We went to a 1000 year old church an my brother lived in apartments in a castle barracks
Truly an Amazing stone ruins for sure! The vastness of it's expanse is simply mind blowing thinking of the time and effort needed to build such structure! Thanks for the trip to the deep woods and enjoyed the video for sure! HH
Very cool site. It seems quite amazing to me what monuments to our ancestors' accomplishments endure. It's hard to imagine waking to another day of stacking rocks and the strength required...physical and mental. Thanks for the tour. I enjoy your commentary and can appreciate the effort you put into camera(s) work and editing.
Kim Jameson this may have been a Neolithic site. At least partially ....that did look like a barn or house foundation. Instead of me trying to explain watch a video on UA-cam titled secrets of stones urine Prime country for this sort of thing
Kim, I dry stack stone flower beds and low walls for fun and wouldn't mind being paid to do it too. It's a peaceful occupation and a healthy one as well. It's also the kind of activity that one can't rush without experiencing some kind of structural failure and that's especially true for walls of this size. Last year, I went back to see how well a series of stone flower beds, along with the somewhat taller back wall that connects them, had held up after nearly 5 years with no maintenance...and I was completely amazed and thrilled to find it was still as solid and stable as it was the day I finished it.
What an awesome adventure! That site was so creepy it was cool. As a viewer you could tell you guys could sense there was definitely a deep unknown history there that would be very interesting to know about. It's because you two are obviously genuine that your trepidation came across in the video. Keep exploring and sharing, your viewers appreciate it!
We have thousands of miles of stone wall here in the uk ,and that rock is a pebble compared to the size off some the boulders built into them , and all done before modern machinery , this place was probably built by settlers from somewhere in Europe .
Just stumbled upon your videos. I live in Chittenden County. Awesome to explore my state with you guys. I found a very small, very old cemetery off 104A. One of the stones the women was born in 1732. It's fascinating to me to think how these people were British subjects and how hard they must have worked to clear the land in what must have been literally the middle of no where. Also Vermont was nearly deforested in the 1800's to raise sheep. What you must likely ran into was some sort of sheep farm.
Cemeteries back then were some what different than now. Bodies were either buried in wooden boxes or, sometimes, just placed in the hole. The holes dug were at least 4 feet deep to be below the frost line. That prevented bodies or caskets heaving up above ground. There was no liner in the hole. Over time, the wood and the body begin to deteriorate and the ground above sinks further into the hole. This can also happen when the disturbed soil settles. Headstones were not always used. Sometimes the graves were marked with stones piled much like the stones in the fences and cellar walls. Other times, wood was fashioned into a cross to mark a grave. Headstones would require fabrication and that costs money. When they do things like flooding an area, sometimes they just move the headstones and make no effort to move what is left of the bodies. Remember, bodies and wood rot in the ground. Depending on the soil in question, many times there isn t much to move. Sand, in particular, is an acid and the rate of deterioration is much faster than most dirt. When there are no markers you can find the old graves by walking the land. The ground will be settled at regular intervals.
Great historic history piece. I can imagine the great size of the barn or building that once stood on that great foundation. Thank you so much for the hike and exploration! Did you do any metal detecting? It would be great to see any metal, coins, pottery or glass, from that site!
It is really hard to find old cemeteries in the woods. I do it in Virginia. Their structures are usually not there anymore and the stones blend in with their surroundings. I post what I find on Find a Grave just in case someone is looking for them.
Hi Brad, always nice to see you and Eddie together :), what a cool explore those places were really strange the way they were all laid out. Maybe it was a little community up there in the mountains, what a beautiful place to live. Thanks Brad for yet another awesome video. x
Sue I think it would be worth while to photograph the entire encampment/fort/store etc. and then do some deep research into the reason it was constructed. No doubt it took quite awhile to move all the stone etc. :) Don
The stone Piles remind me of Norse and Irish Grain driers but the scale of them suggests otherwise. maybe for wood drying for Charcoal Production but the sheer size of them is quite amazing. Great Film.
Good stuff. The whole state is laden with settlements like that. Got some family farms myself in the woods near little River Camp Grounds in Waterbury. Always neat to see the old stuff!
We found similar-looking old foundations on some property we bought in the Carolinas. Ours turned out to be the remains of a late 1700's village, the wood from the houses taken and used to build other structure further up the road. Should be some great metal-detecting in that spot. We found fireplace dogs, tools and blacksmithing equipment in ours. Looks like the same kind of smithing stone where the guy remarks "Is this where they chopped people's heads off" - look around there, probably all kinds of artifacts. Great vid!
From what I have read, there are similar structures all around New England that have been carbon dated to pre-Columbian history. No one knows who built them. Thanks for this wonderful video!
Here is one of those structures. "America's Stonehenge" in New Hampshire. I visited it many years ago. Definitely weird and cool. Here is the link: www.stonehengeusa.com/
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When you came to the "end of the line" there was a Trestle over the river when the railroad was operating... find the area directly across the river from the high flat railbed from where you descended into the river... the line picks up there, the question is where does it run? IF you get a topographic map showing elevations, look for large radius sweeping curves... these are almost always FORMER RAILBEDS because a 5% grade is steep for a train... 5% grade is 5 foot rise for every 100 feet of travel... 15 rail cars and an engine would be 1000 feet long so the engine would be 50 feet above the last car on a 5% grade - and they would in the time period weight 20 -30 tons each loaded. - so you see the reason for gradual rise and long sweeping curves... they are easy to pick out on topographic maps. I did a lot of research for a lawsuit involving rail rights of way dating back to pre civil war in South Carolina one line ran into the mountains and there were multiple spans where it appeared to abruptly end, but ultimately was found to have continued.
I would love to talk to you about these rail lies? Did you know the first secretary of state for the Confederacy was on the board for these rail lines. They were also built in segments, the way H.H. Holmes built his murder castle. The same secretary of state was a lead proponent of succession, and a mentor who advised the later secretary of state to load the Confederacy's money onto a train right before it disappeared forever. All that being said, would love to come across a map of these ole lines, and also curious about the reason for the law suits?
The Stonework is Awesome. They Knew What they Were Doing!! Looks Like its Dry Stacked.No Mortar. Only the Masonry is Left Behind. You Can always Tell Good Stonework by the Corners. Those People Were Masters.
Mesmerizing, y'all. First time seeing your channel. Thanks for the tough camera resets on the way in, too. The car & cairns were cool surprises. Dying to know about the history of the little rock village. Peace. PS Best comment section to boot.
This exploration took me back to my early days in the SW corner of Pa, but if I had found ruins like these it would have been necessary to force me to leave. Great video!
Old railroad right of way, those are rail ties down in the ground. The only companies back that far that would go to that much trouble of blasting out a cut through solid rock would be railroad. Ya could do a little internet search about that area and should come up pretty quickly names of short line railroads and probably logging company railroad back then.
I think the road rails look exactly like the ones used in Manitoba, Canada - in the Interlake area between Lake Manitoba & Lake Winnipeg - I was a boy in the 1960's and my parents bought a farm in a tiny, remote farming community known as Dallas, Manitoba or as the locals call it, "Red Rose (and/or) Sunny Valley". Back in the 1960's the roadways were fine to drive on during dry weather, however, when it rained they became treacherous mud ways where your vehicle could bog down 1 to 2 feet - the locals remedied this by placing tamarack railings sideways just like in this video - it gave traction and also prevented sinking into the muck,,, as long as you kept moving that is. Hell, I remember me and my family all hopping on a flatbed trailer hitched to a tractor to get us in and out during spring time rains - the tracks we left were 1 to 2 feet deep - the rail system greatly improved our ability to get in and out driving a truck during our first few years there... eventually the province built the infrastructure up but before that time, we were on our own in that small community of about 10 to 15 homesteading families... in the 1960's most of us were 2nd generation whom either bought or were related to the original pioneers of those outback farmlands. The man who pioneered my parents farm was Mr. & Mrs. Delay - some of the structures he built are still standing, including some of the thatched roofs on the animal shelters. Mr. Delay was also in the knowledge of building with stone - the house was on stone stacks like those in this video but his tool shed (where he actually made all of his own tools as well!) looked more like a stone mason's work with squared corners, cut stones for flat surfaces and some kind of mortar that he made from the earth - it's still there and you can see straw and small stones were mixed in. His buildings would have been in the 1920's to the 1940's - then in the 60's he retired & sold to my parents. Funny thing - my father build a machinery shed with a concrete foundation in the 80's and while some of the corners are showing some minor deterioration today, Mr. Delay's mortar is still holding strong! Ha! I have to say thank you for the film makers and all of the poster's comments too - what a thrill to read through such a varied & wonderful thread of comments - great history being shared - one of the best comment threads I've come across on YT! Thanks to all from Canada..... eh!
I’ve gone back and forth on purchasing a drone, the shots would be amazing but most of the places I go has heavy tree cover, and I don’t want to pack the darn thing in!
Your take on the road in was pretty good- I'll add that the road is not only maintained and graveled, but used often enough for the accumulations of fall leaves to be blown off by the traffic. The corduroy road between the cut stone areas wouldn't last more than a few seasons with Maine's fierce weather- so it too demonstrates someone is using this area in the very recent times. The car might be a 32-34 Ford Victoria.The stone walls and foundations are what is called dry laid stone- common practice in older european farms and in the new world where stones pop up every time you plow- they gather thanm up and pile them layer upon layer as field dividers. the foundation was likely a big barn or loafing shed for animals- most times human inhabitants would mortar the stones together.An old trading post? Maybe a collecting point for the hides many trappers in that region gathered? I hope you did a better job of putting out your fire than you did setting it up- most woodsy types I know would clear at least all the brush and leaves for three feet around even a small fire like yours. Good luck and good hunting!
Amazing video of an amazing site. oh the history that could be found there if it just wasn't part on the National Forrest. Keep them coming, love your videos
Those "cellars" with the front and back opened looked like bunkers! There were what appeared to be rifle slots in the one you both walked through! Could be for civil war defense or even Indian defense if it dates earlier!!
It’s a CCC camp/barracks complex from the 30’s. Extensive stone work and foundations. Roads cleared. Rock drilled and dynamited for roads. Multiple buildings. The car from the 30’s. In a National Forest. I bet somewhere there’s a circle of stones about 6’ in diameter where the flagpole was. And probably a spring nearby.i recognize the stone work from my visits to the great smoky mountains National Park and the known CCC camps there.
I'm so glad we only have spiders and snakes to watch out for here in South Eastern Australia (yes I know the red belly black snake or red back spider are both deadly) . I don't like the idea of a bobcat or mountain lion hunting anywhere near me.
This was really interesting. I'd love to know more about what that complex was. If you do find out more about that area/old cemetery it would be worth another trip there to explain it. Thanks.
With such extensive dry stack construction, can we deduce an early eighteenth century Scottish or Irish settlement? Perhaps a trading center (furs?) for interaction with the Indians?
I'm no historian, but in browsing the comments, I see no mention of the strategic significance this hilltop position would have as a barracks or surveillance installation to oversee the valley below. At the turn of the 19th century, the vast majority of lowland southern Vermont would have been endless fields of lush farmland. The rivers would be utilized to float logs down the rivers with the spring floods down to the mills along the Massachusetts border. If you are in the area I am thinking of (between Somerset and Stratton).. this seems to be quite plausible. Prime lumber built enviable seafaring vessels in a time when ships were the defining element of warfare superiority. Celtic (or northern european influenced) construction would have likely made use of locally harvested cobb material for added structural stability and stood up better over time. Perhaps 200 years of harsh winters eroded the cobb? Metal detecting may not be allowed there, but.. nothing prohibits gold panning! A good hour in that river would easily fund an entire summer of future exploration.
At 4:12 that looks like a narrow gauge rail line blown through the rock. They built them through the woods to haul timber and ore out. sometimes you'll find little timber or stone platforms sticking out along the sides for loading. Great video!
I agree. They should contact the University of Vermont's archaeology people and give them the GPS coordinates so they can get out there and explore the ruins. I doubt it's Civil War related as Vermont was not involved in the fighting. If there were railroad cuts up there, then there were loggers. But, that complex looks more like a fort or small community. It covers quite a large area and is organized and well constructed.
Great choice on the glock 23 I like the mid size ones the best. I am amazed by your finds. I reenact the French and indian war and the rev war here in NC. you find some great items from those time frames.
Green Mountain Metal Detecting Hello, I watched your wonderful video today and found it by accident. I understand you are a metal detector- however what you have come across always is in the most high up reaches of the mountains. I watch 2 other channels that have found these exact types of wall & building remnants. Look up ColoradoForestBeings His name is Cali you will not believe what he has found! Also -In the Forest with Jeff He has found the same things also. I believe the walls are connected across the lands. So Cali is on top 3rd Plateau Jeff on Top plateau as well. -Also there is more to the story-- Both of them are tracking BigFoot/Sasquatch- I noticed you are heavily in Sasquatch area territory. That is why you felt spooked. Did you feel as though you were being watched? Continue being respectful of the forest and Sasquatch should protect you - that is how it seems to be. If you have never been a Sasquatch believer before, 🦍 You will become one hanging out in the deep terrain you are in. If you see trees made into X’s or trees bent into a curve- that is BF area. They move so quickly-faster than a blink of an eye! It has been discovered that they can hide up in trees to view you and hide well from our eyesight too! They are shy and they keep a far distance. Please learn all you can about them so hopefully you don’t ever need to shoot one but let it run away. It is close to being a human. I hope you will look up Colorado Forest Beings. I believe you would enjoy his information. Glad to see you armed. I will subscribe. Be safe.
Hello Brad. Im a Martin too, from Texas. Family has been here since 1812, originally from Virginia. Enjoy your channel. I know that you have to edit down and condense your vids but, being a history lover, can you find out thru online records a bit of info about this and other locations that you visit from time to time? It would certainly add flesh on the bone if you could. So, if possible please give us a little background if at all possible. Down here, our early finds are Native American and then those of conquistadors (rare). After that its expansion from the settlers as they moved in. Thanks and keep'em coming.
Great to meet you! While I don’t have much background on this particular site, I typically leave out very specific details to protect the site’s location, hopefully that makes sense!
Thank you so much for your response. It means a lot. Yes, Brad. I firmly agree about your choice to protect a location but, you still can provide an anonymous bit of history behind the few locations that will enlighten those if us that want so much to understand what we're seeing. Thanks again Lanny Martin
No. Let me thank you. Its you doing all the work. Then comes all the editing and work that you do to make this all possible for us, your viewers, to enjoy. On another note, if his widow will allow me, i would love to show you a few pics of things my old cohort, a close friend, fellow graduate, (UT, Austin 1972), found while metal detecting (garrett circa 1970 ) on my family land near present day Nacogdoches, Tx. BTW, please tell Eddy that its always great to see any young man getting a foothold on the future. Wish him the best in law enforcement. We need these guys. Stay honest and pure. My 4th Grt. Gr. Father was one of the first Texas Rangers. Take care and Godspeed.
Placement of the camera for your cutaways are really good! Helps to keep the viewer interest even in the not so much action parts. Good job! I said it once I'll say it again, you're is one of the better adventure channels I watch! I look forward to seeing the new ones always. Cheers Man! Happy 2018!
Looks like an old logging railroad bed you guys were walking on, especially since they once found the need to blast through that rock. Time for me to go back and finish watching this video which is interesting so far. Very curious about seeing the structure.
I compare your wonderful video to an expedition to an unknown continent: exciting, thrilling, educational, fantastic. I would love to see area improved so that interested people could tour the area & learn about our early American ancestors. Scenery & descriptions are wonderful. Thanks muchly.
The old car , I would have that in my garden as an ornament . Nice wall structures , the mind wanders thinking what was there. All the best , from Scotland .
I cannot believe there isn't some History Recorded that has been Passed down thru the years; can't believe every location has no History! correct me if I'm wrong!
Actually people of the day were just living life in a time with almost no communication and little formal education. They worked long and hard just to subsist. History as we know it today was not a concern to them. Food and fuel for winter was. Where they lived, birth, death, marriage were seldom recorded because they were only of note to the immediate community. So yes. Most places there is no history from that period.
Thank you for providing the GPS coordinates so someone else with the proper equipment, like a drone, for starters, could survey the site if they chose to do so.
Could be. The area where they found the "fire blind" has a lot of Sasquatch structures. Tons. The logs from end to end mapping along the ground, and leans ( the trees that are leaning against other trees). Sasquatch make rock piles too. Other things they do: tree sapling arches, putting dead upside down trees between other trees and leaving them hang, asterisks of many trees forming a structure.
It’s been some time since uploading this video. Have you ever been able to find out what type of structure those massive foundations were from? Very cool.
That thought came to mind, or perhaps a gunpowder or maple syrup factory. You should be able to search old tax records to see what was there. whatever it was that is cool.
I enjoyed that documentary also, the secrets of the stones! These places need to be preserved in some way because it proves that an ancient civilization existed here.
I heard some background talking through out the entire video, that didn't sound like either of you, in between your convo / sentences. Very interesting.
Hey guys. Im not big into this but you need to go back and listen closely to your footage. It sounds like you had company. Timestamp: 7:44-7:54. (Sounds like watch your step), 10:56-10:57. ( maybe movement of the camera), 11:15-11:19. (Child saying cabo), 12:10-12:13. (Deep voice saying what).
That whisper saying "Cabo" was very freaky! But could have been just an odd exhale from the person walking. The "Watch Your Step" was really really odd and I don't have an explanation for that besides possibly bad audio compression/artifacting, wonder if it's present on the original unedited video capture...
It appears like the trees inside the structure were fairly young. Is that right? If so, it might not have been derelict for too many years. Very interesting.
Vermont hills are full of structure like that, some abandoned and two on my own street with the two level barns. We got plenty of stone so really all routine. These were a dairy farm with stone sheep pens is my guess. And yes they did that because thats the land they had. That was all meadow not that long ago. Behind my house is a forest but it was sheep, sheep, and more sheep.
Cool video, and great camera work. I’m a new subscriber, and I’ve been binge watching your videos for the past week. They are always fun watches. Thanks for taking us along on your trips through the woods. 👍
A question, how close are you to the Canadian Border? The car you found was from the right age to be from the prohibition era, and far to fancy for most in rural Vermont. There was almost an express lane at the time that ran from Montreal south to New York city. Smuggler's Notch got it's name for a reason. As for the large complex. My money would be that it was built by the French for the fur trade. It was built for permanency, by a large number of people over time. It would provide security against the English.
This really has the feel of a fairly sizable logging operation. The proximity to the water for bringing in the logs. The lack of old growth trees in the area you filmed. The cut line for hauling out processed lumber. The large building which could have been the mill. Possibly it was gone through and taken apart for wood and metal scrap during one or both World Wars, explaining the lack of more artifacts.
Could be, Christopher! Thanks for watching!
Imagine yourself as a kid coming across that when you're playing out in the woods. You would feel like you had gone into another world in another time. Awesome!
Upstate New York we often found structures like this out in the middle of a forest. That whole geographical area is glacial, so the old timers used what they had handy as building material -- rocks. Entire fields were outlined in the same rock you both found there, it was common to outline a field with it and change the dimensions when there was a need to. Building foundations had rocks for the cellar, it outlasted the wooden structures above them. Yeah, it would give you the creeps to find it out in the middle of nowhere. But it probably pre-dates the American Revolution.
Wow....sounds logical & very interesting
Prince Madoc?
I just wanted to tell you that my husband and I have watched nearly all your videos the last couple of weeks and thoroughly enjoyed everyone if them. We really appreciate the fact that there is no foul language and if someone does curse you bleep it out. We love metal detecting and have watched a few other channels but when the cursing begins we find some other channel. Glad we found yours. Can't wait for a new adventure soon! Blessings!!!
Glad to hear you've been enjoying them, thanks for watching!
Thank you, Abby girl, for steering away from swearing and cursing. I can't abide it either.
Hey guys, when you find headstones with names and dates please add the information to Find-A Grave if not already there.
Everyone like so he can see
Could it have been a fort?
the screamwas that big fella!
That old car in that setting is a work of art.
I really loved going on this adventure with you guys. Before I got sick hiking and exploring is something that Idid all the time and I miss so very much but watching your videos brings me right with you. Please don't stop lol Just thank you young man and your buddy too.
Thanks for coming along, Tammy!
This is one of my very favorite videos on your channel. Rich in historical beauty, you could almost see a trading store, a hotel of sorts and stables and outbuildings. Very well done.
Why don’t you guys pack a tent and camp out where you stopped, this video so you could continue the hike and explore more. Love your videos keep them coming.
I've wondered the same thing 😁
What a fantastic find, I’d love to hike and explore there. Vermont’s beauty is second to none
That's a good thing about Internet.... as one can, kind of, do it vicariously through other's.
I'm just too old & knackered now, but as a young woman I use to go mud larking on rivers & panning for gold in Sofala, Australia.
Much fun & fascination
Oh my goodness, that car! I always ran the woods around our place when I was a kid. Came across a very old (large Pines growing in it) sugar sand road. On that road was a really old car, maybe 1920s. It had two large gauge bullet holes in the trunk, which were only 2 or 3 inches apart, and it had been set on fire. It was extremely rusty and deteriorated. I was always too afraid to pry that trunk open, but what's left of the car is still there and the trunk is still intact - 50 years later. Might actually end up checking it out one day. Creepy though, because you know there is a body in it. Only 2 close bullet holes and burned. Still no sign of anyone else ever finding it. Never told my dad because he would have made me stay out of the woods. Fate worse than death for this Tomboy. LOL
Great adventure in the GMNF, When I saw what you called a canyon. The actual name is a "Cut" Used most often on rail lines. The width of the cut would indicate a narrow gage line. When you pointed out the rock drill evidence I had an approximate date to that area. Post Civil war !! The rock drill holes tell me High Explosive was used in the blasting of the cut, verses low explosive, (Black Powder). Since Dynamite, was not invented until the late 1860s by Alfred Nobel in Europe. it is easy to come up with the approx. no earlier than date. The Sedan you came across is definitely the 1920s, So the rail line existed between 1870s to 1920. My best guess. The filling of the valley with water would probably post date the 1920s. Probably during the Great Depression with the CCC, and Roosevelt's recovery efforts. The massive foundations you came across say Farm Site.probably multi-family or community built. With the foundation of a very large barn in evidence. Although the foundation is rectangular. Many of the old round barns in VT were built similarly. Excellent video Brad and Eddy. Thank you for sharing. :-)).
Thanks so much for the wonderful info, I’m fairly certain you’re correct with most everything you detailed!
Great info, my friend. Thank you
Too wide a cut for narrow guage
Thanks for the info!
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The wood in the bottom of the cut ravine looks like RRD ties.
I grew up in the Amish country and I do smell a very early 1500 to1600's Amish settlement there which would explain back to back barns and possibly the nearby cemetary. My kin mention a VT. area settlement called Liotee is mentioned in our families history of a huge settlement of Amish and native Americans living together. The winters were so cold in the 1500 to 1600's the Indians learned some of our metal crafting and how to build a STONE & EARTHEN fireplace that held the heat in the building. The lack of a decaying MORTAR like we would use dates this to the 1500 1600's where they would have used Animal furs and mud as a mortar... My northern Amish kin adopted the round structure building from our native Indian friends. Often in the northern part of the USA at the front of an ELDERS house was the round stone structure that would contain flowers and herbs sort of an elevated seasonal garden of sorts. The place fits the descript of the long lost large town of Liotee. Liotee was said to have 7 barns and Liotee is a slang for big barn town. The Pennsylvania Dutch had one such town which eventually became known by it's English name of Lancaster Pa.
Very interesting history, thanks so much for sharing!
Thank you for teaching me something interesting today.
Seems like a pretty normal old New England settlement to me. While I enjoyed the history. Having grown up in New England the woods here are absolutely full of these old settlements. Most of them abandoned around World War Two when less productive farmland was abandoned
Extremely interesting piece of family history! Thank you so much for sharing. I would love to learn more about early history like this!
There are other stone structures that are much older than usual New England and Penn Dutch settler ones. Check Jim Vieira's slide show on YT for more about them. It's pretty interesting stuff.
And then of course there's always Mystery Hill or America's Stonehenge
My wife and I detect this was a military base , could be revolutionary war. It takes tons of manpower to construct such structures. Powder magazines , etc. also provisions for an army, in cellars to avoid freezing. It begs investigation of revolutionary war bases in southern Vt. being on Nat forest land, it has historic significance. The quality of the stone work after so long shows it was well constructed. The trappe rock doorway was awesome. Thanks for your posts, no matter how dated.
Have you looked for this location on an old map? I would love to see a part two 😊
Hope you guys will use some snowed-out days to check in the library to find out the history of this site! If it's in the National Forest, maybe there might be history of the area in the land acquisitions for the park.
I know in Georgia, there were a number of cemeteries that were to be inundated by a Corp of Engineers lake that were moved to "dry" land in a community nearby. Documentation of the removal was in Corp of Engineers records for that area.
Keep up the very interesting work! VT is a LONG way from GA, but it's fascinating to see how many Spanish (or fake Spanish) coins you've turned up. Wonder if the poor Tory soldiers had been paid in the fake currency!
I lived in and around Cumming, GA for 10 years! Lake Lanier is a cool but CRAZY lake
When you showed the old car my first reaction was “Bonnie and Clyde”!
Send the coordinates of the location to the local college archaeology department and see if they can research it and learn more about the place!
Local historical society knows where and what these are,
Vt has a lot of old foundation and Wells root cellars.
The people who built were part of tge community, sheep families or commodity sales.
Mysterious to these guy
S Woodstock has a site some call moons arc because they seem to think it is some druid ruins
It belonged to a man named moon
Weird
People wrote mysterious books about theory of where it came from
I guess they forget to research Windsor county and town history
Guys, I research in upper PA. and come across these stone structures all the time, which I believe to be old farms and the houses , but that giant structure you found blows my mind. Happy hunting GMMD and nice work on the quality of the the video.
I love all these old finds. Growing up in the military i saw a lot of history. We went to a 1000 year old church an my brother lived in apartments in a castle barracks
Truly an Amazing stone ruins for sure! The vastness of it's expanse is simply mind blowing thinking of the time and effort needed to build such structure! Thanks for the trip to the deep woods and enjoyed the video for sure! HH
Very cool site. It seems quite amazing to me what monuments to our ancestors' accomplishments endure. It's hard to imagine waking to another day of stacking rocks and the strength required...physical and mental. Thanks for the tour. I enjoy your commentary and can appreciate the effort you put into camera(s) work and editing.
Thanks for watching, Kim!
Kim Jameson this may have been a Neolithic site. At least partially ....that did look like a barn or house foundation. Instead of me trying to explain watch a video on UA-cam titled secrets of stones urine Prime country for this sort of thing
Kim, I dry stack stone flower beds and low walls for fun and wouldn't mind being paid to do it too. It's a peaceful occupation and a healthy one as well. It's also the kind of activity that one can't rush without experiencing some kind of structural failure and that's especially true for walls of this size.
Last year, I went back to see how well a series of stone flower beds, along with the somewhat taller back wall that connects them, had held up after nearly 5 years with no maintenance...and I was completely amazed and thrilled to find it was still as solid and stable as it was the day I finished it.
What an awesome adventure! That site was so creepy it was cool. As a viewer you could tell you guys could sense there was definitely a deep unknown history there that would be very interesting to know about. It's because you two are obviously genuine that your trepidation came across in the video. Keep exploring and sharing, your viewers appreciate it!
Thanks so much for the kind words Kenn, glad to hear your enjoyed it!
We have thousands of miles of stone wall here in the uk ,and that rock is a pebble compared to the size off some the boulders built into them , and all done before modern machinery , this place was probably built by settlers from somewhere in Europe .
You nailed it.
My thoughts exactly. My guess is Norse or Celt.
Just stumbled upon your videos. I live in Chittenden County. Awesome to explore my state with you guys. I found a very small, very old cemetery off 104A. One of the stones the women was born in 1732. It's fascinating to me to think how these people were British subjects and how hard they must have worked to clear the land in what must have been literally the middle of no where. Also Vermont was nearly deforested in the 1800's to raise sheep. What you must likely ran into was some sort of sheep farm.
Hey neighbor! Thanks for watching!
Cemeteries back then were some what different than now. Bodies were either buried in wooden boxes or, sometimes, just placed in the hole. The holes dug were at least 4 feet deep to be below the frost line. That prevented bodies or caskets heaving up above ground. There was no liner in the hole.
Over time, the wood and the body begin to deteriorate and the ground above sinks further into the hole. This can also happen when the disturbed soil settles. Headstones were not always used. Sometimes the graves were marked with stones piled much like the stones in the fences and cellar walls. Other times, wood was fashioned into a cross to mark a grave. Headstones would require fabrication and that costs money.
When they do things like flooding an area, sometimes they just move the headstones and make no effort to move what is left of the bodies. Remember, bodies and wood rot in the ground. Depending on the soil in question, many times there isn t much to move. Sand, in particular, is an acid and the rate of deterioration is much faster than most dirt.
When there are no markers you can find the old graves by walking the land. The ground will be settled at regular intervals.
Thanks for all the great info Karen!
I wish I knew the history of that place! Neat0! Thanks!
Seems to me that this the remains perhaps of an old Shaker community. NH and Vt had several of them back in the mid nineteen hundreds.
Great historic history piece. I can imagine the great size of the barn or building that once stood on that great foundation. Thank you so much for the hike and exploration! Did you do any metal detecting? It would be great to see any metal, coins, pottery or glass, from that site!
It is really hard to find old cemeteries in the woods. I do it in Virginia. Their structures are usually not there anymore and the stones blend in with their surroundings. I post what I find on Find a Grave just in case someone is looking for them.
Good for you Leslie. My honey put it the best. The stone says "I was here once."
Hi Brad, always nice to see you and Eddie together :), what a cool explore those places were really strange the way they were all laid out. Maybe it was a little community up there in the mountains, what a beautiful place to live. Thanks Brad for yet another awesome video. x
Thanks Sue!
Sue I think it would be worth while to photograph the entire encampment/fort/store etc. and then do some deep research into the reason it was constructed. No doubt it took quite awhile to move all the stone etc. :) Don
The stone Piles remind me of Norse and Irish Grain driers but the scale of them suggests otherwise. maybe for wood drying for Charcoal Production but the sheer size of them is quite amazing. Great Film.
This young man is easy watching & they've got this great channel
This video and some of your others, without your metal detector, show your love of history and adventure. Reminds me of when I was a kid.
Pretty cool looking spot. Thanks for taking us along.
Thanks for coming along, Ron!
Good stuff. The whole state is laden with settlements like that. Got some family farms myself in the woods near little River Camp Grounds in Waterbury. Always neat to see the old stuff!
We found similar-looking old foundations on some property we bought in the Carolinas. Ours turned out to be the remains of a late 1700's village, the wood from the houses taken and used to build other structure further up the road. Should be some great metal-detecting in that spot. We found fireplace dogs, tools and blacksmithing equipment in ours. Looks like the same kind of smithing stone where the guy remarks "Is this where they chopped people's heads off" - look around there, probably all kinds of artifacts. Great vid!
thats what i think they got here.....
Glad to know you two were armed. Very smart. And that no-mortar stone work is awesome!
Miss Heird glad he is armed: NY DEC is releasing packs of wolves into our woods now, not to mention mountain lion & 2 legged presators.
Great presentation guy! Very entertaining! Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
From what I have read, there are similar structures all around New England that have been carbon dated to pre-Columbian history. No one knows who built them. Thanks for this wonderful video!
Thanks a lot, Scott!
Here is one of those structures. "America's Stonehenge" in New Hampshire. I visited it many years ago. Definitely weird and cool. Here is the link: www.stonehengeusa.com/
Awesome hike and a great Video. Just wish their was metal detecting allowed to see what kind of history involved around those structures.. Thanks
Thanks a lot, you and me both!
I'm surprised the forestry department wouldn't want metal junk found and removed.
seems like a really silly law
Oldies&Goodies:
History? If you knew its real age all the historical paradigms would fall.
Jay Warren Clark
Thank you Guys for the adventure.
Your camera work is excellent, and i love how you include a bit of nature here and there to break it up, keep up the good work.
Thanks so much!
It would be really cool to know who built that, and when. It's obviously VERY old. I love historical stuff like that.
That was worht all the 17,59 i spent watching it Great material shared and thanks for doing just that. Greetings from WW2HistoryHunter
Thanks so much for the kind words, glad to hear you enjoyed it!
Please read again my friend. i spent 17,59 MINUTES watching this video and it was well spent := Thanks
WW2 History Hunter you rock have watched all of your amazing work!!!!!
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I love the WW2HistoryHunter..AWESOME of you to comment on GMMD!!
When you came to the "end of the line" there was a Trestle over the river when the railroad was operating... find the area directly across the river from the high flat railbed from where you descended into the river... the line picks up there, the question is where does it run?
IF you get a topographic map showing elevations, look for large radius sweeping curves... these are almost always FORMER RAILBEDS because a 5% grade is steep for a train... 5% grade is 5 foot rise for every 100 feet of travel...
15 rail cars and an engine would be 1000 feet long so the engine would be 50 feet above the last car on a 5% grade - and they would in the time period weight 20 -30 tons each loaded. - so you see the reason for gradual rise and long sweeping curves... they are easy to pick out on topographic maps.
I did a lot of research for a lawsuit involving rail rights of way dating back to pre civil war in South Carolina one line ran into the mountains and there were multiple spans where it appeared to abruptly end, but ultimately was found to have continued.
I would love to talk to you about these rail lies? Did you know the first secretary of state for the Confederacy was on the board for these rail lines. They were also built in segments, the way H.H. Holmes built his murder castle. The same secretary of state was a lead proponent of succession, and a mentor who advised the later secretary of state to load the Confederacy's money onto a train right before it disappeared forever. All that being said, would love to come across a map of these ole lines, and also curious about the reason for the law suits?
The Stonework is Awesome. They Knew What they Were Doing!! Looks Like its Dry Stacked.No Mortar. Only the Masonry is Left Behind. You Can always Tell Good Stonework by the Corners. Those People Were Masters.
the Ulster Irish are known for this type of wall building. They were built throughout Appalachia, as well.
Mesmerizing, y'all. First time seeing your channel. Thanks for the tough camera resets on the way in, too.
The car & cairns were cool surprises. Dying to know about the history of the little rock village. Peace.
PS Best comment section to boot.
I enjoy your adventures. And I like when you have someone with you. This is one of my favorite site channels.
Thanks so much, Eva!
Glad to see one of you was packing.
I was thinking the same thing 🔫. Lions & tigers & bears, oh my ☠️✌🏻 🍺 🇺🇸
They both were
both were packing and that was smart
NEXT TIME..BOTH PACKIN AN FLASHLITES N LUNCH....
Not from VT, are you
Thanks for the grand adventure. If those walls could talk!
Looks like an old town settlement of some kind good find, that car looks like an old coupe from late 1920's - about 32.
This exploration took me back to my early days in the SW corner of Pa, but if I had found ruins like these it would have been necessary to force me to leave. Great video!
The ledge cut reminded me of a railroad grade, and the corduroy looked like RR ties to me. Just suggestions. Good hunting out there.
Old railroad right of way, those are rail ties down in the ground. The only companies back that far that would go to that much trouble of blasting out a cut through solid rock would be railroad. Ya could do a little internet search about that area and should come up pretty quickly names of short line railroads and probably logging company railroad back then.
I think the road rails look exactly like the ones used in Manitoba, Canada - in the Interlake area between Lake Manitoba & Lake Winnipeg - I was a boy in the 1960's and my parents bought a farm in a tiny, remote farming community known as Dallas, Manitoba or as the locals call it, "Red Rose (and/or) Sunny Valley". Back in the 1960's the roadways were fine to drive on during dry weather, however, when it rained they became treacherous mud ways where your vehicle could bog down 1 to 2 feet - the locals remedied this by placing tamarack railings sideways just like in this video - it gave traction and also prevented sinking into the muck,,, as long as you kept moving that is. Hell, I remember me and my family all hopping on a flatbed trailer hitched to a tractor to get us in and out during spring time rains - the tracks we left were 1 to 2 feet deep - the rail system greatly improved our ability to get in and out driving a truck during our first few years there... eventually the province built the infrastructure up but before that time, we were on our own in that small community of about 10 to 15 homesteading families... in the 1960's most of us were 2nd generation whom either bought or were related to the original pioneers of those outback farmlands.
The man who pioneered my parents farm was Mr. & Mrs. Delay - some of the structures he built are still standing, including some of the thatched roofs on the animal shelters. Mr. Delay was also in the knowledge of building with stone - the house was on stone stacks like those in this video but his tool shed (where he actually made all of his own tools as well!) looked more like a stone mason's work with squared corners, cut stones for flat surfaces and some kind of mortar that he made from the earth - it's still there and you can see straw and small stones were mixed in. His buildings would have been in the 1920's to the 1940's - then in the 60's he retired & sold to my parents. Funny thing - my father build a machinery shed with a concrete foundation in the 80's and while some of the corners are showing some minor deterioration today, Mr. Delay's mortar is still holding strong! Ha!
I have to say thank you for the film makers and all of the poster's comments too - what a thrill to read through such a varied & wonderful thread of comments - great history being shared - one of the best comment threads I've come across on YT! Thanks to all from Canada..... eh!
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@@rainom11 Very informative post - thanks!
We here in NJ have similar structures in the woods. Very interesting!
What a wicked spot. lt would have been great to get an ariel view of the layout.
I’ve gone back and forth on purchasing a drone, the shots would be amazing but most of the places I go has heavy tree cover, and I don’t want to pack the darn thing in!
Your take on the road in was pretty good- I'll add that the road is not only maintained and graveled, but used often enough for the accumulations of fall leaves to be blown off by the traffic. The corduroy road between the cut stone areas wouldn't last more than a few seasons with Maine's fierce weather- so it too demonstrates someone is using this area in the very recent times. The car might be a 32-34 Ford Victoria.The stone walls and foundations are what is called dry laid stone- common practice in older european farms and in the new world where stones pop up every time you plow- they gather thanm up and pile them layer upon layer as field dividers. the foundation was likely a big barn or loafing shed for animals- most times human inhabitants would mortar the stones together.An old trading post? Maybe a collecting point for the hides many trappers in that region gathered? I hope you did a better job of putting out your fire than you did setting it up- most woodsy types I know would clear at least all the brush and leaves for three feet around even a small fire like yours. Good luck and good hunting!
I’ve seen a colony like this off the Horse Trails in South Woodstock. Oh yes The are amazing. Great video
Amazing video of an amazing site. oh the history that could be found there if it just wasn't part on the National Forrest. Keep them coming, love your videos
Thanks so much, Ian!
Would love to be with you on your adventure! Glad you are armed! Thx it was fun
Glad to hear you enjoyed it, Mark!
Those "cellars" with the front and back opened looked like bunkers! There were what appeared to be rifle slots in the one you both walked through! Could be for civil war defense or even Indian defense if it dates earlier!!
It’s a CCC camp/barracks complex from the 30’s. Extensive stone work and foundations. Roads cleared. Rock drilled and dynamited for roads. Multiple buildings. The car from the 30’s. In a National Forest. I bet somewhere there’s a circle of stones about 6’ in diameter where the flagpole was. And probably a spring nearby.i recognize the stone work from my visits to the great smoky mountains National Park and the known CCC camps there.
Thanks for the adventure, as always be safe.🇺🇸✌🍻
You just never know what you will find out in these old mountains!!
Wow, just stumbled on to you guys; where in the heck did they get all those rocks? Must have been a long undertaking...
Yes it's a Bob cat!!! That scream is really scary when your near it . Sounds like a high pitch howl scream .
Mike fishead It could also be a Fisher Cat, we have them in Central New York and they sound just like that
I'm so glad we only have spiders and snakes to watch out for here in South Eastern Australia (yes I know the red belly black snake or red back spider are both deadly) . I don't like the idea of a bobcat or mountain lion hunting anywhere near me.
This was really interesting. I'd love to know more about what that complex was. If you do find out more about that area/old cemetery it would be worth another trip there to explain it. Thanks.
Wow incredible adventure! That car looks to be 1920's! Probably a 'rum runner' hiding out in the woods! Super cool!
With such extensive dry stack construction, can we deduce an early eighteenth century Scottish or Irish settlement?
Perhaps a trading center (furs?) for interaction with the Indians?
Right. I think you have to at least start there. There are not many cultures of a suitable time that build like that.
I'm no historian, but in browsing the comments, I see no mention of the strategic significance this hilltop position would have as a barracks or surveillance installation to oversee the valley below.
At the turn of the 19th century, the vast majority of lowland southern Vermont would have been endless fields of lush farmland. The rivers would be utilized to float logs down the rivers with the spring floods down to the mills along the Massachusetts border.
If you are in the area I am thinking of (between Somerset and Stratton).. this seems to be quite plausible.
Prime lumber built enviable seafaring vessels in a time when ships were the defining element of warfare superiority.
Celtic (or northern european influenced) construction would have likely made use of locally harvested cobb material for added structural stability and stood up better over time. Perhaps 200 years of harsh winters eroded the cobb?
Metal detecting may not be allowed there, but.. nothing prohibits gold panning! A good hour in that river would easily fund an entire summer of future exploration.
Why not use some droneogrophy to get a layout from above the trees. Might spot the cemetery and get some age from the headstones if there are any.
Great idea Don, I wonder if I can convince Eddie to buy and pack in a drone...
At 4:12 that looks like a narrow gauge rail line blown through the rock. They built them through the woods to haul timber and ore out. sometimes you'll find little timber or stone platforms sticking out along the sides for loading.
Great video!
they need to get an archeaoligy team out to this sit as soon as possible. This is HISTORY!
I agree. They should contact the University of Vermont's archaeology people and give them the GPS coordinates so they can get out there and explore the ruins. I doubt it's Civil War related as Vermont was not involved in the fighting. If there were railroad cuts up there, then there were loggers. But, that complex looks more like a fort or small community. It covers quite a large area and is organized and well constructed.
so eddie has a 1911 maybe a 45acp and you carry a glock of somekind. very smart guys. I like your channel good work thanks for posting great stuff.
Glock 23 and a Para Ordnance 1911 in 45ACP, good eye!
Great choice on the glock 23 I like the mid size ones the best. I am amazed by your finds. I reenact the French and indian war and the rev war here in NC. you find some great items from those time frames.
Thanks a lot!!
I was VERY glad to see you were both packin
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Hello, I watched your wonderful video today and found it by accident. I understand you are a metal detector- however what you have come across always is in the most high up reaches of the mountains. I watch 2 other channels that have found these exact types of wall & building remnants. Look up
ColoradoForestBeings
His name is Cali you will not believe what he has found!
Also -In the Forest with Jeff
He has found the same things also.
I believe the walls are connected across the lands. So Cali is on top 3rd Plateau
Jeff on Top plateau as well.
-Also there is more to the story--
Both of them are tracking BigFoot/Sasquatch- I noticed you are heavily in Sasquatch area territory. That is why you felt spooked. Did you feel as though you were being watched? Continue being respectful of the forest and Sasquatch should protect you - that is how it seems to be. If you have never been a Sasquatch believer before, 🦍 You will become one hanging out in the deep terrain you are in. If you see trees made into X’s or trees bent into a curve- that is BF area. They move so quickly-faster than a blink of an eye!
It has been discovered that they can hide up in trees to view you and hide well from our eyesight too! They are shy and they keep a far distance. Please learn all you can about them so hopefully you don’t ever need to shoot one but let it run away.
It is close to being a human.
I hope you will look up Colorado Forest Beings. I believe you would enjoy his information. Glad to see you armed. I will subscribe. Be safe.
Hello Brad. Im a Martin too, from Texas. Family has been here since 1812, originally from Virginia. Enjoy your channel.
I know that you have to edit down and condense your vids but, being a history lover, can you find out thru online records a bit of info about this and other locations that you visit from time to time? It would certainly add flesh on the bone if you could. So, if possible please give us a little background if at all possible.
Down here, our early finds are Native American and then those of conquistadors (rare). After that its expansion from the settlers as they moved in.
Thanks and keep'em coming.
Great to meet you! While I don’t have much background on this particular site, I typically leave out very specific details to protect the site’s location, hopefully that makes sense!
Thank you so much for your response. It means a lot.
Yes, Brad. I firmly agree about your choice to protect a location but, you still can provide an anonymous bit of history behind the few locations that will enlighten those if us that want so much to understand what we're seeing.
Thanks again
Lanny Martin
Thanks Lanny, I’ll do my best!!
No. Let me thank you. Its you doing all the work. Then comes all the editing and work that you do to make this all possible for us, your viewers, to enjoy.
On another note, if his widow will allow me, i would love to show you a few pics of things my old cohort, a close friend, fellow graduate, (UT, Austin 1972), found while metal detecting (garrett circa 1970 ) on my family land near present day Nacogdoches, Tx.
BTW, please tell Eddy that its always great to see any young man getting a foothold on the future. Wish him the best in law enforcement. We need these guys. Stay honest and pure. My 4th Grt. Gr. Father was one of the first Texas Rangers.
Take care and Godspeed.
L Mar...My husband's mother's family are Martin's and have been in East Texas since 1846. I think they came from TN or KY.
Placement of the camera for your cutaways are really good! Helps to keep the viewer interest even in the not so much action parts. Good job! I said it once I'll say it again, you're is one of the better adventure channels I watch! I look forward to seeing the new ones always. Cheers Man! Happy 2018!
Thanks a lot Jim, Happy new year to you as well!!
Looks like an old logging railroad bed you guys were walking on, especially since they once found the need to blast through that rock. Time for me to go back and finish watching this video which is interesting so far. Very curious about seeing the structure.
I compare your wonderful video to an expedition to an unknown continent: exciting, thrilling, educational, fantastic. I would love to see area improved so that interested people could tour the area & learn about our early American ancestors. Scenery & descriptions are wonderful. Thanks muchly.
The old car , I would have that in my garden as an ornament . Nice wall structures , the mind wanders thinking what was there. All the best , from Scotland .
lol you've got lint in your pocket that's older than anything in my country.
KEEP CALM and PLAY SOCCER IN YOUR PAJAMAS . Haha . I like history stuff whatever the age . Yeah we have a couple of old things in Scotland . :)
I cannot believe there isn't some History Recorded that has been Passed down thru the years; can't believe every location has no History!
correct me if I'm wrong!
Actually people of the day were just living life in a time with almost no communication and little formal education. They worked long and hard just to subsist. History as we know it today was not a concern to them. Food and fuel for winter was. Where they lived, birth, death, marriage were seldom recorded because they were only of note to the immediate community.
So yes. Most places there is no history from that period.
Sick and can't sleep, this came at the perfect time!
Same here, Tony! Hope you feel better!
Green Mountain Metal Detecting 11:35 those rock stacks look like floor support and the front area probably had stairs with a door.
Thank you for providing the GPS coordinates so someone else with the proper equipment, like a drone, for starters, could survey the site if they chose to do so.
Could be. The area where they found the "fire blind" has a lot of Sasquatch structures. Tons. The logs from end to end mapping along the ground, and leans ( the trees that are leaning against other trees). Sasquatch make rock piles too. Other things they do: tree sapling arches, putting dead upside down trees between other trees and leaving them hang, asterisks of many trees forming a structure.
Good video. I'm old now but from watching you I wish I could go metal detecting! Plus you guys are both easy to listen to and watch. Thanks.
These old foundations were everywhere in my youth. Eventually, people "stole" the rock from the foundations, and sold them.
It’s been some time since uploading this video. Have you ever been able to find out what type of structure those massive foundations were from? Very cool.
my question too. fort?
Huge ancient fort of some kind or what? How crazy, all those huge structures on the mountain in the middle of nowhere like that.
That thought came to mind, or perhaps a gunpowder or maple syrup factory. You should be able to search old tax records to see what was there. whatever it was that is cool.
back in the day everywhere was in the middle of nowhere .
Shawn32671 there’s lots of old gold and copper mines in that area. It’s most likely an old stamp mill for processing ore
It wasn’t the middle of nowhere at one time
Wow, really Einstein?
You got me at "spooky,creepy"!!! Vermont Stonehenge!
Thanks for all your good energy & efforts to document your adventures ! :)
Curious where in Vermont. I like researching old maps and aerial photos. Something that large is more than likely on old maps.
the structures are explained in documentary/ ancient american mysteries/ secrets of the stones, enjoy your videos,
Thank you for the tip ! Just watched it !
Thanks, im going to look that up.
I enjoyed that documentary also, the secrets of the stones! These places need to be preserved in some way because it proves that an ancient civilization existed here.
It's not ancient. It's not a mystery. It's a CCC camp from the 30s.
So that's where I parked my car. I'm always losing it.😊
That must have been a town to have enough labor to build all of those huge structures.
Great video, Thanks
Think I will take the dogs out tomorrow
That's great to hear!!
The car was a ford model A andcthat was the most beautiful country to explore AWESOME video keep up the good work
I heard some background talking through out the entire video, that didn't sound like either of you, in between your convo / sentences. Very interesting.
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Hey guys. Im not big into this but you need to go back and listen closely to your footage. It sounds like you had company.
Timestamp: 7:44-7:54. (Sounds like watch your step), 10:56-10:57. ( maybe movement of the camera), 11:15-11:19. (Child saying cabo), 12:10-12:13. (Deep voice saying what).
That whisper saying "Cabo" was very freaky! But could have been just an odd exhale from the person walking. The "Watch Your Step" was really really odd and I don't have an explanation for that besides possibly bad audio compression/artifacting, wonder if it's present on the original unedited video capture...
It appears like the trees inside the structure were fairly young. Is that right? If so, it might not have been derelict for too many years. Very interesting.
Vermont hills are full of structure like that, some abandoned and two on my own street with the two level barns. We got plenty of stone so really all routine. These were a dairy farm with stone sheep pens is my guess. And yes they did that because thats the land they had. That was all meadow not that long ago. Behind my house is a forest but it was sheep, sheep, and more sheep.
Oh to walk again, Good show!! looks like an old rail bed
Cool video, and great camera work. I’m a new subscriber, and I’ve been binge watching your videos for the past week. They are always fun watches. Thanks for taking us along on your trips through the woods. 👍
So glad to hear you’ve been enjoying the videos Todd, thanks for watching!
A question, how close are you to the Canadian Border? The car you found was from the right age to be from the prohibition era, and far to fancy for most in rural Vermont. There was almost an express lane at the time that ran from Montreal south to New York city. Smuggler's Notch got it's name for a reason. As for the large complex. My money would be that it was built by the French for the fur trade. It was built for permanency, by a large number of people over time. It would provide security against the English.
Thanks for all the great info, Bruce! This site would have been a few days ride from Canada at the time, but not out of the question!
I'll buy your theory more than the one that it was a Amish farm on a mountaintop.
@@bartandrews5884 Over time it could have functioned as both.