Seriously enjoyed the video. Its much more helpful to hear a real owner talk about boat features and characteristics than a manufacturer promo , or a 3min "boat review".
I am going back and forth between this boat and a Tracker Targa V-18. The Tracker is a bigger boat, 102 " beam and I can put a 200 Pro XS on it. The Crestliner is sleek, looks badass and not cheaply made.
Both good options Mike! There have been a few times based on how we use our boat that I wish we could have a bit bigger motor. But even now, five years later we couldn’t be more pleased with this boat. Good luck!
+Dungee Fishing Well i went and bought the boat 2015 1750 Fish Hawk Pretty happy with it im rigging it now. 101 36v Trolling motor .im just using a Lowrance Elite 7 HDI For now but im trying to get my hands on a HDS 12 Gen 3. Pretty happy with this setup ive had a few boats. Crestliner needs to send you a check you did a great review.
I'm struggling between the 1750 and 1850. It looks like the extra space in the cabin area makes a big diff. There's zero knee room in the jump seats on the 1750, making the second row almost useless. The 3rd seat costs an extra 330 bux, only to lay it down on the floor while in transit, and potentially not use it at all.
Again you're right, we don't use the second row of captains chairs. We just sit on the bench in the down position most of the time. But again, we value deck/casting area over cockpit area. When we do troll we put the bench up and use those giving us much more cockpit area. To me the only reason to get a 1850 over 1750 is the engine capacity. If you're wanting and needing the 150 motor then it becomes a no brainer.
Yes been a minute. Boat is doing well, we are doing well, fishing is as good as ever. We will need to reboot some videos for sure. Been busy with some fun projects, trying to finish up a second boat actually.
Thanks for the tour. After seeing this I bought a "new" 2013. I do wish that year would have had the rail system.Can you tell me what you used for the tool holder for the pliers, etc? Thanks
+brr5 No problem! Glad we could help you out. I don't remember exactly which one but I made the plier holders out of some denser rubber tubing from home depot. Something similar to this. www.homedepot.com/p/Sioux-Chief-1-1-4-in-x-7-8-in-x-2-ft-Rubber-Disposal-Hose-HWPM/204407914 Hope this helps, good luck and let me know if you have any other questions.
Great review. One of the only ones I found. I'm weighing the FishHwak against the SuperHawk and would appreciate your comments. Seems to me, the F/H's storage bins on the side would make a good place to rest your knee while netting whereas the S/H has wider gunnels, recessed storage areas in the walls and a wider cockpit. Do you have any thoughts on this?
You hit it right on the head, we don't troll that often so the cockpit room isn't as important to us as the overall deck space we get with the folding bench. The rod locker and where we place our cooler in the middle of the seats almost makes it a 360 degree area. There is plenty of storage in both boats, in fact I've seen people say that there is more in the FH's. If you troll more and use the cockpit area more than the SH is the way to go, especially on an 1850. To get the extra foot on the 1850 they essentially push the windshield forward taking away a bit from the deck. If you value deck space then get either model with the folding bench.
Dungee Fishing Thanks a lot. I've been digging into the details, brought my measuring tape down to the dealership last week and felt out the options. Turns out, the bow decks on both sizes are actually the same, the windshield stays put and the extra foot is in the cockpit. But yes, they immediately recommend the 150 for getting the extra 200 pounds out of the hole, especially if you expect to do any other watersports with it, so upgrading is an 8 grand touch. Tough decision. Thanks again. Safe boating!
Yes! That's what I was thinking but typed it differently. My final advice would be to get the boat for your needs, buy for it reasons you want and need. Boat shopping is the best and worst thing ever ha. Good luck.
Great Video! I am curious, are you able to trim the motor all the way down when the boat is on the trailer without the skeg hitting the ground? Thanks!
Just depends on the slope you're on, just parked in my driveway id say I can trim it down probably 95% of the way, have to jack the boat down so the boat is leaning forward to do it all the way. While trailered it just depends, some slopes i have been able to and some not if that makes sense, probably just depends on how forward or back the boat leans on what you are towing it with...
I appreciate the post. I’m looking at something similar but would like a kicker motor with it. Do you have issues trolling with the larger motor? Have you looked at a temporary enclosure for fishing in cold or weather. Those are two things that I would like.
@@DungeeFishing Thanks for the reply. I really like your setup and hopefully I’ll make a purchase in a year. We just moved to Bear Lake (Utah) and I think a similar setup to yours will work.
Great video. Just have a question on your trolling motor. Building a boat and definitely want to get the right thrust an voltage to fight the awesome lake powell wind. Thanks.
Great video thanks. It helped me decide to pick up the same boat last month. Are you running the prop that came with it and have you tried any different pitches or anything? I have the 19 pitch Black Max that came with it and generally being at lakes that are 3000' to 5000' elevation I'm thinking I might try a different pitch and possibly go with a steel prop. If you have had any experience changing them out I'd appreciate hearing what your experiences have been. Thanks.
Thanks David! We received the same prop with ours, we now run a 16 pitch mercury vengous. (spelling?) When we go to Powell which is in that elevation you'll be running and we love it. We also just recently picked up the four blade mercury spitfire in the 15 pitch for the higher elevation lakes we have in utah 6k plus elevation.
Dungee Fishing thank you for the reply. What kind of performance gains are you seeing with that prop and pitch at lake Powell? Why did you go with the 16 pitch? When I use Mercury prop selector it is telling me to go with a 21 pitch. Thanks for the help.
The 16 pitch at Powell gives us a good hull shot, and good top end on the 115 four stroke. That 19 at Powell was slow out of the hull but still gave us good top end and gas mileage. When we initially took the boat to a lake it was over 7k feet and the 19 barely got us up on plane, Id go with a 16 pitch at the elevation you are talking about.
I purchased a 2017 New #Crestliner# Vt18 DXT from H&W Marine in Bossier City, Louisiana on Feb. 17, 2017 and it turned out to be the Worst Performing Boat I have ever owned in 50 years of boats... I took the boat out on Friday and began breaking in boat... During 1st week of break-in I began contacting dealer about handling problems... @ 25 mph the boat bounces up/down which gets worst with increasing speeds and no matter how much I trim motor it does not stop... at 30 mph the boat starts to launch side/side in addition to bouncing problem. I started contacting Dealership within 6 days of purchase... In the beginning I was told I just needed to get use to my new boats difference and my 2012 16' Express... I was told that I had to learn how my bigger boat handled. I brought the boat back on Thursday 2/23/17 and told service tech that they needed to test ride my boat. I have contacted H&W Marine Dealership 30+ times and Customer Service 10+ times to No Resolution. I have asked for My Money Back... a New Boat... Trade My Boat For Different Boat... 2 Dealership Techs and Customer Service Rep. Vince Shimanski after test driving my boat... Acknowledge That There Is A Problem With My Boat.. That A Mistake Was Made At The Factory... #Crestliner Boats# has agreed to Replace my Hull But ONLY IF I SIGN A NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT... NOT TO TALK ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH MY BOAT... 3- boats all came through the H&W Marine Dealership with the same MISTAKES as per Manager Mark Glen of the Bossier Store Location and he stated he knew of at least 2 more for a total of 5-boats that have same MISTAKE in HULL... Manager Mark Glen Continues to Assure me That I Can Continue To Use My Boat At SLOW SPEEDS & WITH MOTOR TRIMMED ALL THE WAY DOWN... I should have kept my 16' Express at least I could run it wide open... My boat has been Sitting in Driveway Collecting Dust Since the End of February... Because it is EXTEMELY UNSAFE... VERRRY HARD TO CONTROL AND IT SCARES ME TO GO OUT IN IT EVEN AT SLOW SPEEDS... During my last outing in boat at approx. 29 mph with motor trimmed all way down... I crossed Wake of Passing Boat and my #Crestliner# Boat Pitched Sideways Almost Throwing Me to Floor... Had I NOT been Holding Onto Steering Wheel. I will Never Recommend Dealership or Crestliner Boats to anyone looking to buy new boat because Dealership has done nothing to solve problem... I Paid In Full for boat when I picked it up and I Did Not Have to Sign Nondisclosure Agreement When I Bought The Boat... Why Should I Have to Sign Nondisclosure to Warranty Hull... When Hull Has A Lifetime Warranty???
Sorry to hear that. Ours has been nothing but amazing performance wise at all ranges. I am also sorry to hear about your dealer.... Again Robertsons Marine in Salt Lake has been incredible to work with.
Hi Tony sorry to hear but yeah mine the whole console on both sides come off, they wouldn’t pay for it I had too. I told the guy that fixed it he’s the one who called Crestliner to tell them no more Crestliners and I would tell anybody who listens. Good luck Tony.
Still doing very well. Haven’t had one issue with it to this point, 40-50 days on the water a year. Have been meaning to actually do a follow up review on the boat and detail all the modifications and personalization we’ve done. Fantastic boat!
Yes hydraulic steering. We almost pulled the trigger on a couple used Crestliner's in our area, one a fish hawk and one a super hawk. Both would've worked well. Our ideal dream boat is a center console pathfinder. We also looked really heavily into the center console makos.
+Dungee Fishing I'm also here in Utah and have that same motor. I just ordered the Mercury Spitfire hoping for a better hole shot. Do you get out of the water pretty quickly with a loaded boat on that prop?
Just depends loaded, loaded up hight at the Berry or something it still takes a minute but loaded at Powell it usually gets up pretty quick. Now, totally weighted down with camp gear and everything it still takes a while even at Powell. Ive been contemplating a 15P, or a four blade for the Berry.
Johnny you must not be from the US because you can't put more the the manufacture's max hp on boats in the US. 115hp is max on the 1750 Fishhawk. www.crestliner.com/fish-hawk/1750-fish-hawk/
There are times that a 150 on the 1850 would be preferred for sure, but ours still gets the job done in the situations we've put it in. There are times with tons of gear and people that it can struggle getting up but it always does.
@@tilks05 if you don't believe me check with West Marine. Google "West Marine boat fenders" See what you come up with... West Marine is the biggest retail boat accessory chain in the US... Don't know what else to tell you...
Your windshield there on both sides is going to bounce loose I know I have one.Do you think Crestliner would fix it he’ll no the damn was a little past warranty. The boat only had about 25 hours on it like new and the windshield came up off bouncing on the water they wouldn’t fix it well it’s just too old it’s a 17 hardly used at all. I’ll never buy another one there’s better.
@@DungeeFishing it’s not just the windshield it was the whole console. And the fact that Crestliner did not want nothing to do with it. I’ll be happy to send you pictures of what had to be done no problem.
@@dagwoodsingleton6202 There is a black weather stripping that runs along the bottom of the windshield, if you pull that up it gives you access to all the hardware to tighten them as needed.
@@DungeeFishing OK but that’s not it, underneath where the fuse box is there’s a piece of angle iron the people at the boat shop told me that it wasn’t tied in that’s why the whole thing not just the windshield the whole consul on both sides came loose.I’ll be happy to send you pictures of what they HAD to do.
Thanks for reply Dungess. Appreciate it!
Any time!
Seriously enjoyed the video. Its much more helpful to hear a real owner talk about boat features and characteristics than a manufacturer promo , or a 3min "boat review".
That older boat you showed looked pretty cool, was that an old Crestliner as well?
Yes! A 72' Crestliner Muskie.
Excellent! Those old boats can be a lot of fun.
I am going back and forth between this boat and a Tracker Targa V-18. The Tracker is a bigger boat, 102 " beam and I can put a 200 Pro XS on it. The Crestliner is sleek, looks badass and not cheaply made.
Both good options Mike! There have been a few times based on how we use our boat that I wish we could have a bit bigger motor. But even now, five years later we couldn’t be more pleased with this boat. Good luck!
@@DungeeFishing Thanks for the quick reply. I am leaning towards the Crestliner, the 1750 comes with a 150 now.
@@mikekenner9218 That’s right! Yeah, a 150 on the 1750 is all you’d ever need minus taking on a bass boat speed wise.
Thank you ! Great video
Thanks for posting this i hope the boat is still holding up for you guys.
+William Rossi Thanks! Yeah we couldn't be more happy with our boat.
+Dungee Fishing
Well i went and bought the boat 2015 1750 Fish Hawk Pretty happy with it im rigging it now.
101 36v Trolling motor .im just using a Lowrance Elite 7 HDI For now but im trying to get my hands on a HDS 12 Gen 3. Pretty happy with this setup ive had a few boats. Crestliner needs to send you a check you did a great review.
Great Video. I fish with just a few and I think a 1750 would be perfect. Great work. Thanks for video.
I'm struggling between the 1750 and 1850. It looks like the extra space in the cabin area makes a big diff. There's zero knee room in the jump seats on the 1750, making the second row almost useless. The 3rd seat costs an extra 330 bux, only to lay it down on the floor while in transit, and potentially not use it at all.
Again you're right, we don't use the second row of captains chairs. We just sit on the bench in the down position most of the time. But again, we value deck/casting area over cockpit area. When we do troll we put the bench up and use those giving us much more cockpit area. To me the only reason to get a 1850 over 1750 is the engine capacity. If you're wanting and needing the 150 motor then it becomes a no brainer.
Hi Guys. How is the boat and fishing these days? Miss you vids.
Yes been a minute. Boat is doing well, we are doing well, fishing is as good as ever. We will need to reboot some videos for sure. Been busy with some fun projects, trying to finish up a second boat actually.
Thanks for the tour. After seeing this I bought a "new" 2013. I do wish that year would have had the rail system.Can you tell me what you used for the tool holder for the pliers, etc?
Thanks
+brr5 No problem! Glad we could help you out. I don't remember exactly which one but I made the plier holders out of some denser rubber tubing from home depot. Something similar to this. www.homedepot.com/p/Sioux-Chief-1-1-4-in-x-7-8-in-x-2-ft-Rubber-Disposal-Hose-HWPM/204407914 Hope this helps, good luck and let me know if you have any other questions.
@@DungeeFishing also curious about the tubing. Do you have a min to find the tubing again at depot to post? that link expired lol
Great review. One of the only ones I found. I'm weighing the FishHwak against the SuperHawk and would appreciate your comments. Seems to me, the F/H's storage bins on the side would make a good place to rest your knee while netting whereas the S/H has wider gunnels, recessed storage areas in the walls and a wider cockpit. Do you have any thoughts on this?
You hit it right on the head, we don't troll that often so the cockpit room isn't as important to us as the overall deck space we get with the folding bench. The rod locker and where we place our cooler in the middle of the seats almost makes it a 360 degree area. There is plenty of storage in both boats, in fact I've seen people say that there is more in the FH's. If you troll more and use the cockpit area more than the SH is the way to go, especially on an 1850. To get the extra foot on the 1850 they essentially push the windshield forward taking away a bit from the deck. If you value deck space then get either model with the folding bench.
Dungee Fishing Thanks a lot. I've been digging into the details, brought my measuring tape down to the dealership last week and felt out the options. Turns out, the bow decks on both sizes are actually the same, the windshield stays put and the extra foot is in the cockpit. But yes, they immediately recommend the 150 for getting the extra 200 pounds out of the hole, especially if you expect to do any other watersports with it, so upgrading is an 8 grand touch. Tough decision. Thanks again. Safe boating!
Yes! That's what I was thinking but typed it differently. My final advice would be to get the boat for your needs, buy for it reasons you want and need. Boat shopping is the best and worst thing ever ha. Good luck.
Great Video! I am curious, are you able to trim the motor all the way down when the boat is on the trailer without the skeg hitting the ground? Thanks!
Just depends on the slope you're on, just parked in my driveway id say I can trim it down probably 95% of the way, have to jack the boat down so the boat is leaning forward to do it all the way. While trailered it just depends, some slopes i have been able to and some not if that makes sense, probably just depends on how forward or back the boat leans on what you are towing it with...
I appreciate the post. I’m looking at something similar but would like a kicker motor with it. Do you have issues trolling with the larger motor? Have you looked at a temporary enclosure for fishing in cold or weather. Those are two things that I would like.
Haven’t had issues with the four stroke trolling, it does well. As far as enclosures go I wish I could get one, price just holds us back ha.
@@DungeeFishing Thanks for the reply. I really like your setup and hopefully I’ll make a purchase in a year. We just moved to Bear Lake (Utah) and I think a similar setup to yours will work.
Great video. Just have a question on your trolling motor. Building a boat and definitely want to get the right thrust an voltage to fight the awesome lake powell wind. Thanks.
Definitely do at least a 24 volt system. Avoid any 12 volt. Ours is an 80lb thrust.
@@DungeeFishing Thanks.
Great video thanks. It helped me decide to pick up the same boat last month. Are you running the prop that came with it and have you tried any different pitches or anything? I have the 19 pitch Black Max that came with it and generally being at lakes that are 3000' to 5000' elevation I'm thinking I might try a different pitch and possibly go with a steel prop. If you have had any experience changing them out I'd appreciate hearing what your experiences have been. Thanks.
Thanks David! We received the same prop with ours, we now run a 16 pitch mercury vengous. (spelling?) When we go to Powell which is in that elevation you'll be running and we love it. We also just recently picked up the four blade mercury spitfire in the 15 pitch for the higher elevation lakes we have in utah 6k plus elevation.
Dungee Fishing thank you for the reply. What kind of performance gains are you seeing with that prop and pitch at lake Powell? Why did you go with the 16 pitch? When I use Mercury prop selector it is telling me to go with a 21 pitch. Thanks for the help.
The 16 pitch at Powell gives us a good hull shot, and good top end on the 115 four stroke. That 19 at Powell was slow out of the hull but still gave us good top end and gas mileage. When we initially took the boat to a lake it was over 7k feet and the 19 barely got us up on plane, Id go with a 16 pitch at the elevation you are talking about.
I purchased a 2017 New #Crestliner# Vt18 DXT from H&W Marine in Bossier City, Louisiana on Feb. 17, 2017 and it turned out to be the Worst Performing Boat I have ever owned in 50 years of boats...
I took the boat out on Friday and began breaking in boat... During 1st week of break-in I began contacting dealer about handling problems... @ 25 mph the boat bounces up/down which gets worst with increasing speeds and no matter how much I trim motor it does not stop... at 30 mph the boat starts to launch side/side in addition to bouncing problem.
I started contacting Dealership within 6 days of purchase... In the beginning I was told I just needed to get use to my new boats difference and my 2012 16' Express... I was told that I had to learn how my bigger boat handled.
I brought the boat back on Thursday 2/23/17 and told service tech that they needed to test ride my boat.
I have contacted H&W Marine Dealership 30+ times and Customer Service 10+ times to No Resolution.
I have asked for My Money Back... a New Boat... Trade My Boat For Different Boat...
2 Dealership Techs and Customer Service Rep. Vince Shimanski after test driving my boat... Acknowledge That There Is A Problem With My Boat.. That A Mistake Was Made At The Factory...
#Crestliner Boats# has agreed to Replace my Hull But ONLY IF I SIGN A NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT... NOT TO TALK ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH MY BOAT...
3- boats all came through the H&W Marine Dealership with the same MISTAKES as per Manager Mark Glen of the Bossier Store Location and he stated he knew of at least 2 more for a total of 5-boats that have same MISTAKE in HULL...
Manager Mark Glen Continues to Assure me That I Can Continue To Use My Boat At SLOW SPEEDS & WITH MOTOR TRIMMED ALL THE WAY DOWN... I should have kept my 16' Express at least I could run it wide open...
My boat has been Sitting in Driveway Collecting Dust Since the End of February... Because it is EXTEMELY UNSAFE... VERRRY HARD TO CONTROL AND IT SCARES ME TO GO OUT IN IT EVEN AT SLOW SPEEDS...
During my last outing in boat at approx. 29 mph with motor trimmed all way down... I crossed Wake of Passing Boat and my #Crestliner# Boat Pitched Sideways Almost Throwing Me to Floor... Had I NOT been Holding Onto Steering Wheel.
I will Never Recommend Dealership or Crestliner Boats to anyone looking to buy new boat because Dealership has done nothing to solve problem... I Paid In Full for boat when I picked it up and I Did Not Have to Sign Nondisclosure Agreement When I Bought The Boat... Why Should I Have to Sign Nondisclosure to Warranty Hull... When Hull Has A Lifetime Warranty???
Sorry to hear that. Ours has been nothing but amazing performance wise at all ranges. I am also sorry to hear about your dealer.... Again Robertsons Marine in Salt Lake has been incredible to work with.
Hi Tony sorry to hear but yeah mine the whole console on both sides come off, they wouldn’t pay for it I had too. I told the guy that fixed it he’s the one who called Crestliner to tell them no more Crestliners and I would tell anybody who listens. Good luck Tony.
How’s your terrova holding up? Considering either a terrova or ultera
nice review. just wondering how much did this cost?
Final price was right around 27
How many hours on the boat now guys? Still going great?
Still doing very well. Haven’t had one issue with it to this point, 40-50 days on the water a year. Have been meaning to actually do a follow up review on the boat and detail all the modifications and personalization we’ve done. Fantastic boat!
@@DungeeFishing . Sweet!
Do you have hydraulic steering? What was the other boat you were considering along with the Crestliner 1750?
Yes hydraulic steering. We almost pulled the trigger on a couple used Crestliner's in our area, one a fish hawk and one a super hawk. Both would've worked well. Our ideal dream boat is a center console pathfinder. We also looked really heavily into the center console makos.
Great video. What prop do you have on that motor? TIA.
16P SS Vengeance by Mercury Marine. Came with a 19P Aluminum from Cali but that didn't work for us up here in Utah. Thanks for watching!
+Dungee Fishing I'm also here in Utah and have that same motor. I just ordered the Mercury Spitfire hoping for a better hole shot. Do you get out of the water pretty quickly with a loaded boat on that prop?
Just depends loaded, loaded up hight at the Berry or something it still takes a minute but loaded at Powell it usually gets up pretty quick. Now, totally weighted down with camp gear and everything it still takes a while even at Powell. Ive been contemplating a 15P, or a four blade for the Berry.
Awesome, thanks for the info. Love watching your videos on our local waters. Tight lines!
Thanks Ben! Appreciate it! Good Luck.
how about compare to a boston whaler 170?
Not sure? Whaler probably has more pure fishing space being a center console? But I have no experience with one.
What does this boat run , approximately. MSRV
Our models and version about 27k at the time.
How’s the vinyl floor holding up
Holding up pretty well, one little tear up front and one corner where it was separating, not bad in my opinion for seven years of use.
my crestliner 1750 fishhawk has a max rating of a 175 and thats what i have on it
whi is yours only 115?
+Johnny Harrison Our model is a 2014, max rating on that one is 125, the year after the max went to 115.
Johnny you must not be from the US because you can't put more the the manufacture's max hp on boats in the US. 115hp is max on the 1750 Fishhawk. www.crestliner.com/fish-hawk/1750-fish-hawk/
+Jordan Dvorak yes i am not i am from canada sorry!
+Johnny Harrison no big deal. how fast does your fishhawk go with the 175?
+Jordan Dvorak about 65 mph around there
How slow can u troll with that 115?
Really slow, the range you can have with it is very surprising. Motor runs very well at the lowest RPMs
Are you wishing for an 1850? You carry lots of gear and people?
There are times that a 150 on the 1850 would be preferred for sure, but ours still gets the job done in the situations we've put it in. There are times with tons of gear and people that it can struggle getting up but it always does.
How’s the vinyl floor holding up
Good! We are actually working on a five year follow up review on the boat and discussed this. Be out soon.
Cool looking forward to an update 👍
@@DungeeFishing Did you ever make this follow up vid?
@@camilrykowski5765No net yet! We will get there though!
When did Gary Busey move to Utah?
? You think I look like Gary Busey?
It's true...but not in that crazy way. You did a great review on the boat. You never see videos where they put that many people in a boat.
They're not bumpers my friend, they're called "fenders"...
in mn they are called bumpers. not sure where your from
@@tilks05 if you don't believe me check with West Marine. Google "West Marine boat fenders" See what you come up with... West Marine is the biggest retail boat accessory chain in the US... Don't know what else to tell you...
Always a critic, get a life
Your windshield there on both sides is going to bounce loose I know I have one.Do you think Crestliner would fix it he’ll no the damn was a little past warranty. The boat only had about 25 hours on it like new and the windshield came up off bouncing on the water they wouldn’t fix it well it’s just too old it’s a 17 hardly used at all. I’ll never buy another one there’s better.
A couple times a year I’ll tighten the screws for the windshield. Hasn’t been an issue at all.
@@DungeeFishing it’s not just the windshield it was the whole console. And the fact that Crestliner did not want nothing to do with it. I’ll be happy to send you pictures of what had to be done no problem.
@@DungeeFishing I don’t see how you tighten down the windshield ? Better look at the big picture.
@@dagwoodsingleton6202 There is a black weather stripping that runs along the bottom of the windshield, if you pull that up it gives you access to all the hardware to tighten them as needed.
@@DungeeFishing OK but that’s not it, underneath where the fuse box is there’s a piece of angle iron the people at the boat shop told me that it wasn’t tied in that’s why the whole thing not just the windshield the whole consul on both sides came loose.I’ll be happy to send you pictures of what they HAD to do.