As I Lay Dying THEN VS. NOW - Riffs From Shadows Are Security and Shaped By Fire (Riff Battle)

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  • Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
  • One of the most popular bands to emerge from the early 2000s wave of "melodic metalcore," As I Lay Dying combined Swedish melodeath inspired riffing with the emotional choruses and heavy breakdowns of core music. Their early releases set the blueprint for many bands to come - but how do the riffs from their latest releases stack up to the first album that put them on the map? You be the judge!
    Artist: As I Lay Dying
    Albums: Shadows Are Security (2005) and Shaped By Fire (2019) + new single Roots Below (2021)
    Tuning: Drop C and Drop A
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 161

  • @deylanengel7251
    @deylanengel7251 3 роки тому +181

    Shadows Are Security is GOATED. Definition of a metalcore album. Some of the riffs are super unique and fun to play.

    • @Osh_93
      @Osh_93 3 роки тому

      _GOATED_ yeah we're all going to hell for abusing this acronym into oblivion

    • @Viktor18896
      @Viktor18896 3 роки тому +1

      Facts

    • @jhonny_v._games
      @jhonny_v._games 9 місяців тому +1

      The only problem with "Shadows Are Security" is the equalization, because you can't feel the guitar riffs' weight. The riffs are heavy, but the equalization doesn't give them feeling they deserve. There's a video where AILD plays "Meaning In Tragedy" in Jumping Turtle, and the equalization makes the song sound as heavy as It really is.

    • @oSileyCT-7212
      @oSileyCT-7212 3 місяці тому

      Top 5 Metal albums ever released and best riffs to play ever

  • @benjaminmoore4514
    @benjaminmoore4514 3 роки тому +160

    Shadows are security ❤️ holds a special place in my heart. I love all of their albums old and new

    • @corypatterson5174
      @corypatterson5174 3 роки тому

      Agreed! Still listen to SS on the regular. By far my fav AILD album

    • @richardpaone2097
      @richardpaone2097 3 роки тому +2

      Was a freshman in high school when it came out and I remember thinking… this is the sound I was meant to find. Saw them with All That Remains and Through the Eyes of the Dead and it was all over from there. I was known as that little metal kid (I’m 5’4 now and was around the same height at that time lol)

    • @swiftlogic699
      @swiftlogic699 3 роки тому +1

      @@richardpaone2097 i saw them with that same line up back then in Nashville! Good times!

    • @richardpaone2097
      @richardpaone2097 3 роки тому +2

      @@swiftlogic699 Hell yeah! Saw them in Philly, could barely breathe at that show I remember (my height hahaha) but damn… everyone killed it that night I didn’t even care.

  • @Shalloworldmx
    @Shalloworldmx 3 роки тому +78

    Oh the memories with those riffs…

  • @BigRich1911
    @BigRich1911 3 роки тому +17

    the transition from blinded to darkest nights was.. ****chef's kiss****

  • @ivanafeelcool9143
    @ivanafeelcool9143 3 роки тому +48

    As I Lay Dying is awesome because they have changed over the years while still feeling familiar to their roots.

  • @KingJerbear
    @KingJerbear 3 роки тому +50

    Dude Shadows are Security has like nothing but bangers. Great video idea thanks for sharing and thanks for the nostalgia

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  3 роки тому +4

      Thanks man! And yes it does ha

  • @raynarzary
    @raynarzary 3 роки тому +35

    I miss Nick Hipa. Grew up listening to As I lay dying. Helped me overcome depression. The song called Overcome from Awakened album holds dear in my heart. Defender was a banger.

    • @THE_5050
      @THE_5050 5 місяців тому

      Overcome is definitely among their best songs even though it's so hard to choose cause they don't miss

    • @yzsooks
      @yzsooks 5 місяців тому

      Same for me, goated tune

  • @DennisvanVerseveld
    @DennisvanVerseveld 3 роки тому +52

    Older songs, newer songs, I don't mind, love them all!!
    Great playthrough!

  • @lxpart8456
    @lxpart8456 3 роки тому +24

    I'm surprised to not see any comments relating to the video itself - very creative and humorous watching you play off against yourself (unless you have an identical twin). Love the playing also - my fav AILD will always be an ocean between us

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  3 роки тому +4

      Thanks, awesome to hear! One of my favorite albums too

    • @pixelbasedlifeforms
      @pixelbasedlifeforms 2 роки тому

      It’s not an original idea. Another metal dude started it.

    • @MrPEnnis-dl4rs
      @MrPEnnis-dl4rs 2 роки тому

      @@pixelbasedlifeforms I bet you're fun at parties

  • @Mavvyd96
    @Mavvyd96 3 роки тому +22

    Seeing your other version of yourself mimicking the blast beat in Confined was hilarious. Jordan Mancino is a fantastic drummer.

  • @iLikeCarsFPS
    @iLikeCarsFPS 3 роки тому +11

    when The Darkest Nights riff hit...waves of nostalgia!!

  • @kostaskitmi8180
    @kostaskitmi8180 3 роки тому +4

    old or new, the rifflords of metalcore always deliver . great video man

  • @kaboose111
    @kaboose111 3 роки тому +9

    Shadows are Security was like my first heavy album I bought. That classic melodic metalcore from the early 2000's can't be fucked with

  • @mikemelara9591
    @mikemelara9591 Рік тому +4

    I just truly dig how their sound has evolved from album to album. I remember being so amped when they dropped an ocean between us. This band has always strived to focus on generating the most unique sound in their riffs. I give them props to the fullest.

    • @maynardburger
      @maynardburger 10 місяців тому +1

      Straight up, the musicians simply got better. The guitarists and drummer became more technically proficient, opening the door for them to do more and be faster/heavier at times, without completely losing what they were originally about. I can play any early As I Lay Dying stuff on guitar no problem, but much of their later stuff gives me problems.

  • @whoshotya117
    @whoshotya117 2 роки тому +7

    I remember hearing Confined and getting goosebumps and 94 hours thinking it was the hardest shit ever.

  • @SirZPthundergod
    @SirZPthundergod 2 роки тому +9

    Fantastic! For your next "THEN VS. NOW" video, please do Trivium - Ascendancy vs. In the Court of the Dragon

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  2 роки тому +3

      That would be right up my alley! Will add to list

  • @elicraig7367
    @elicraig7367 2 роки тому +1

    Found those early As I Lay Dying albums right around the time I started playing guitar back in high school. Spent hours playing these riffs, so fun to hear them again! And the new stuff sounds sick too!

  • @darrenhill3514
    @darrenhill3514 3 роки тому +60

    It's crazy how famous AILD is but they're not famous. Put any drama aside, they deserved to be touring with bigger bands and headlining bigger shows. Even my dad (60 at the time) was blown away how good they are live.

    • @AtomaJava
      @AtomaJava 3 роки тому +11

      Idrc what anyone says. AILD for me is the best Metalcore band to ever exist

    • @lukefisher1248
      @lukefisher1248 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah they really are phenomenal live! Killswitch are definitely a bigger band but AILD are the true metal core kings

    • @rizaandika5834
      @rizaandika5834 2 роки тому

      Cant hope much to band who just had 1 amazing album

    • @bohab787
      @bohab787 Рік тому

      They were... 15 years ago when they were more relevant

    • @nishanth6403
      @nishanth6403 Рік тому +1

      Exactly.. they have some of the most definitive pieces of metalcorr music of all time but still are way less famous than Killswitch Engage or even All that remains

  • @ezzyMunero90
    @ezzyMunero90 3 роки тому +58

    One of the things i like about As I Lay Dying is that the music is so melodic. Unlike any other modern metalcore bands which the guitar sounds like broken machinery called "djent". As I Lay Dying makes me headbang right from the intro through the verse, the chorus etc. Other modern bands just use breakdowns to get the people headbanging. But hey, i guess it's just my taste cuz i like melody in metal.

    • @jn2787
      @jn2787 3 роки тому +1

      lollllol

    • @AFSkull
      @AFSkull 3 роки тому +5

      Agree. Breakdowns are an easy formula.
      Melody needs more creativity

    • @crawdiddy10
      @crawdiddy10 2 роки тому +5

      August Burns Red is pretty melodic too... Just saying

    • @Ketamaniac199
      @Ketamaniac199 2 роки тому +3

      @@crawdiddy10 that makes them awesome too

    • @loganpriest6029
      @loganpriest6029 2 роки тому +1

      Clint said it best: "An onslaught of melodic notes"

  • @mayunz4029
    @mayunz4029 8 місяців тому

    I love how Thomas left and Thomas right first started mocking each other's playing and then headbang in unison with each following riff cause this is the way with AILD riffs. Solid work!

  • @pacoslayer3249
    @pacoslayer3249 8 місяців тому +2

    Blinded -> the darkest nights transition
    0:56

  • @Osh_93
    @Osh_93 3 роки тому +2

    Holy shit! thank you for this content that I never knew I needed

  • @osmandc4293
    @osmandc4293 10 місяців тому +1

    We need a Horizons(PWD) vs Shadows are Security (AILD) vs Constellations (ABR) vs Apologies are for the Weak ( MMI)

  • @DrhaHaPhD
    @DrhaHaPhD Рік тому +1

    Shadows will forever be my favorite AILD album, but it’s interesting to see both played side by side like this because you can tell the difference; shadows has a lot lighter feel to it whereas shaped has a LOT darker and heavier feel to it

  • @kusanagisteve7166
    @kusanagisteve7166 3 роки тому +9

    Old and new riffs are all dope. I hear most people say that SAS has better riffs but honestly, It's more about their personal preferences and nostalgy. In terms of riff writing, SBF is nowhere less good.

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  3 роки тому +1

      Style seems pretty similar to me too, maybe a little more advanced actually

  • @jv-man3698
    @jv-man3698 Рік тому +1

    Shadows are security is the best metal core album period! Soundtrack of my teenage years for sure.

  • @ferryaditya4649
    @ferryaditya4649 3 роки тому +3

    The darkest nights is my favourite one and also gatekeeper was truly awesome🔥

  • @athandh308
    @athandh308 2 роки тому +1

    Yeah roots below got me teared up, really sad i overlooked ever listening to the whole new album at least once. Thanks dude

  • @vennyph
    @vennyph 3 роки тому +4

    You made me remember when i listened to aild for the first time, they are still a very good band

  • @jbizzle1691
    @jbizzle1691 3 роки тому +2

    As I… is hands down my favorite band. Love each album

  • @NoReason059
    @NoReason059 3 роки тому +4

    shadows are security and killswitch alive or just breathing is pretty much what lived in my walkman whist i was at high school

  • @athandh308
    @athandh308 2 роки тому

    Yeah the drumming reaction on the opening scene i realised way to late after, the dude is an actual machine

  • @nozeboreview8896
    @nozeboreview8896 3 роки тому +3

    i'm going to enjoy it very very much

  • @Thegearsofwar2268
    @Thegearsofwar2268 2 роки тому +1

    the band that got me to start playing guitar! AILD will always have a special place in my heart ^m^

  • @Yanzar98
    @Yanzar98 9 місяців тому

    old AILD forever in my heart

  • @Lucas-kw5rh
    @Lucas-kw5rh 3 роки тому +1

    Never heard about this men but this is high end quality content 😅👌 keep continue

  • @j_b
    @j_b 3 роки тому +3

    I’d love to see Phinehas thegodmachine vs The Fire Itself

  • @CRINGELQRD
    @CRINGELQRD 3 роки тому +1

    Transition into "Darkest Night" was priceless

  • @northernninety7
    @northernninety7 3 роки тому +10

    They don’t sound that much different now. They retained similarities from their old style.

  • @HVTFIELDOFFICIAL
    @HVTFIELDOFFICIAL 3 роки тому

    This Channels about to take off.

  • @CranE6490
    @CranE6490 3 роки тому +2

    An ocean between us is the pinnacle of metal core.

  • @evanmcguire9043
    @evanmcguire9043 3 роки тому

    Another banger!! When I was kid I was dead set on getting an ASILAYDYING tattoo of all the song titles, arranged in a way that it tells a story lol Shadows are security in the darkest nights, through struggle. Shit like that lol

  • @saulgood6313
    @saulgood6313 2 роки тому +1

    Absolutely LOVE AILD. But! I’m going to say that it is a crime you played nothing from Frail Words Collapse. Although, Shadows are Security is an excellent album, Frail Words Collapse is the THEN from the NOW. Should’ve played from both as the THEN.
    Again, not taking ANYTHING away from this video, as it is incredible and absolutely enjoy every second of your videos. Just a bit sad is all lol. Either way, keep up the excellent work, brother. I think I speak for many when I say that your videos are well put together and you’re a phenomenal guitar player!

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for the kind words! Truth be told I forgot frail words was before shadows until after I finished the video ha. Will have to do another, maybe if they release a new album

    • @saulgood6313
      @saulgood6313 2 роки тому +1

      @@ThomasHogue Please please do that! You got yourself a new subscriber with the bell turned ON. Look long forward to a Frail Words Collapse video! Nostalgia brings in the views!

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  2 роки тому +1

      @@saulgood6313 Yes! Thanks for the sub

  • @JoTaPi666
    @JoTaPi666 3 роки тому +4

    The old stuff still Rocksssss !!!!

  • @redt-rex3808
    @redt-rex3808 2 роки тому +1

    YOU NEED to do a video of metal bands who dont have the original line ups their old riffs vs new... like opeth!!

  • @lordapophis93
    @lordapophis93 3 місяці тому

    No matter what happens with AILD I will always love listening to them

  • @carlospena426
    @carlospena426 3 роки тому

    Thank you for this !

  • @hardcore_666
    @hardcore_666 Рік тому +2

    Old AILD top!!!

  • @gubernational57
    @gubernational57 3 роки тому +1

    Shadows are security is on the level of alive or just breathing. The darkest nights is a masterpiece of a song as well

  • @Dioramarama_Collectibles
    @Dioramarama_Collectibles 3 роки тому

    They got me into metal all those years ago...

  • @chrissears5482
    @chrissears5482 Місяць тому

    Shadows are Security and An Ocean Between us had some of the best metalcore riffs of all time

  • @based1669
    @based1669 3 роки тому

    Dude this speaks to me so much!!! \m/

  • @johngun7418
    @johngun7418 2 роки тому

    Everytime I hear that riff from "darkest nights" I end up having to listen to the whole song multiple times lol.

  • @andrel5878
    @andrel5878 3 роки тому

    Great job

  • @SpaceBandit666
    @SpaceBandit666 2 роки тому +1

    Still my favorite metalcore band, parkway drive was my go-to once the jail time happened but once AILD came back my heart was full again. I can’t pinpoint why I kind of fell off with Parkway Drive but AILD has yet to get old for me.

  • @Luisdavidgomez
    @Luisdavidgomez 3 роки тому

    Very cool and great 😊!

  • @johnnyanderson5906
    @johnnyanderson5906 2 роки тому

    The Darkest Nights has such an iconic riff.

  • @MikeHoncho256
    @MikeHoncho256 3 роки тому

    "Losing Sight" slaps so hard.

  • @its_ferdi
    @its_ferdi 3 роки тому +1

    Shaped by fire riff♥️

  • @黄黄明泽
    @黄黄明泽 3 роки тому +2

    in flames core

  • @nuyorican91st
    @nuyorican91st 3 роки тому +3

    Shadows of security hands down
    Wine that ages fine with time

  • @RIPJimmyA7X
    @RIPJimmyA7X 3 роки тому +1

    Only AILD could follow up a legendary album like Shadows are Security and almost surpass it with Oceans

  • @ljm_2011
    @ljm_2011 3 роки тому

    SAS is the album that got me into metalcore

  • @godhatesmath7781
    @godhatesmath7781 3 роки тому +1

    There are a few albums that when you listen to em they take you somewhere else.

  • @Gwynsladle
    @Gwynsladle 3 роки тому +2

    I just picked up electric guitar and learn it, solely to be able to jam to all As I Lay Dying songs... wish me luck guys.. #LingLing40Hours

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  3 роки тому +1

      You picked a good band to learn riffs from 😊

    • @Gwynsladle
      @Gwynsladle 3 роки тому

      @@ThomasHogue thank you! I'm still learning music theories atm, with 2 hours of alternate picking training mixed with familiarizing finger placement.

  • @Dr_AK_Gaming
    @Dr_AK_Gaming 2 роки тому +1

    Gatekeeper is so underrated

  • @KhaosKontroller
    @KhaosKontroller 3 роки тому +10

    I think a history video would've been more suited here. Mainly cause their last album isn't their strongest outing. Powerless Rise and Awakened are their best albums imo.
    Also, you should check out Nick Hipa's new band, Mire. It's some of the best stuff he's ever written.

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  3 роки тому +6

      Not a bad idea, an evolution video could still be in the cards. Will definitely check out Mire!

    • @KhaosKontroller
      @KhaosKontroller 3 роки тому

      @@ThomasHogue You won't be disappointed. It's fantastic stuff. Really good to see Nick step out of the metalcore genre.

    • @MrDjentlegiant
      @MrDjentlegiant 3 роки тому +1

      I like an ocean between us

  • @Jangel_Rm
    @Jangel_Rm 3 роки тому +1

    can you make a video explaining how to get that tone? it's amazing

  • @mmxiv1077
    @mmxiv1077 3 роки тому

    aahahhh CONFINED legend, blinded and roots below too

  • @XNamelessXNill
    @XNamelessXNill 3 роки тому

    Can you do a "Then Vs Now" for ill Nino?

  • @jean-leondupuy-goldsworthy5439
    @jean-leondupuy-goldsworthy5439 3 роки тому +1

    Early AILD and Austrian Death Machine are both great bands hahaha

    • @bnafison
      @bnafison 3 роки тому +1

      Throw Destroy the Runner in the mix. ADM is both AILD and DTR’s side project. Such great!

  • @darkmotherboard272
    @darkmotherboard272 3 роки тому

    AILD till i lay dying! 🤘🏽

  • @llObscurell
    @llObscurell 3 роки тому +1

    Frail words collapse?

  • @NelsonBlakeII
    @NelsonBlakeII 3 роки тому +2

    That is a pretty Schecter. What model is that?

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  3 роки тому +1

      C-1 SLS Elite

    • @NelsonBlakeII
      @NelsonBlakeII 3 роки тому

      @@ThomasHogue Thanks! Looked that up. It's a nice one. I have the Km7 ii and Nick Johnston. I love those guitars so much it's moved Schecter up as one of my favorite brands overall.

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  3 роки тому +1

      @@NelsonBlakeII Nice! I've got 2 schecter guitars and a schecter bass, they all impressed me with their quality

  • @alessandrozannettino918
    @alessandrozannettino918 3 роки тому

    the first album is "beneath the encasing of ashes" who released in the 2001

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  3 роки тому

      Ha yes I missed that this time

    • @alessandrozannettino918
      @alessandrozannettino918 3 роки тому

      @@ThomasHogue cloud you redo the video?

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  3 роки тому +1

      @@alessandrozannettino918 When they come out with another release I think I will definitely re-do then vs now with beneath the encasing of ashes. But in mean time maybe I'll do a riff evolution or something

    • @alessandrozannettino918
      @alessandrozannettino918 3 роки тому

      @@ThomasHogue ok

    • @No-cg9kj
      @No-cg9kj 3 роки тому +2

      Frail Words Collapse also came out in between those, which is arguably the album that really put their career in motion.

  • @aedqodrie
    @aedqodrie 2 роки тому

    What Jackson type is that?

  • @fluegelziner2hoch10
    @fluegelziner2hoch10 2 місяці тому

    Morning Waits 😢

  • @Kain_R_Heinlein
    @Kain_R_Heinlein 2 роки тому

    No frail words collapse? That's their best!

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  2 роки тому

      Missed opportunity for sure. If they come out with a new album I’m hoping to redo this one with frail words 😁

  • @shapelessX
    @shapelessX 3 роки тому +3

    Easily Shadows.

  • @jacobbaker9215
    @jacobbaker9215 3 роки тому

    I felt offended the way you cut My Own Grave so short...

  • @maccddyasydsydysyds
    @maccddyasydsydysyds 4 місяці тому

    I think Shadows are security is better because the 5 7 8s weren’t all discovered and copyrighted back then. Then it became a race discover the 5 7 8s in lower tunings, more strings ect. It’s impossible to write metalcore songs without accidental copyright infringement today. You’re forced to be overly technical in order to be original/legal now. Just my thoughts

  • @cahsangar5594
    @cahsangar5594 2 роки тому

    My favorit shadow of security is the best

  • @L-code
    @L-code 3 роки тому

    shadows are security. I ve learned every song when I was 16 :D but I ve never learned any solo or guitar basics... haaha :D

  • @TheJohnnee
    @TheJohnnee 4 місяці тому

    They legit recycled their riffs for Shaped by Fire, yet they actually kinda did something better with their riffs.

  • @shredmetalshred7395
    @shredmetalshred7395 3 роки тому

    Riffs are hard when you don't use your pinky.

  • @chriswitek9455
    @chriswitek9455 2 роки тому

    i mean i listen to shadows are security nearly everyday so..........

  • @9hk38f
    @9hk38f 3 роки тому

    I love the Schecter. But I am not a fan of that Jackson. Tone is little dull/flat.

  • @saxan666
    @saxan666 3 роки тому

    Альбом 2005 года лучше, и душевнее!!! 😍😍😍

  • @jwayk9750
    @jwayk9750 3 роки тому

    Hey, I heard they were looking for a new guitarist…

    • @lex_C_88
      @lex_C_88 3 роки тому +1

      Oh you heard?

  • @MikeExplosivo70
    @MikeExplosivo70 3 роки тому

    the version on the right is real snobby about the old shit lmao

  • @ZephaniahDavis
    @ZephaniahDavis 3 роки тому

    This is the way to listen to this band - All killer guitar riffs and no terrible vocals. Really fun video.

  • @specialk8888
    @specialk8888 3 роки тому +4

    Darkest Nights will always be in my top 3 AILD songs, and while I did like Shaped By Fire, for some reason I really hated Tim’s vocals and have hated all his vocals ever since coming back to the music scene

    • @bluestreak5172
      @bluestreak5172 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, Tim's vocals were not as good on shaped by fire. They were much better on the earlier albums.

    • @specialk8888
      @specialk8888 3 роки тому +1

      @@bluestreak5172 definitely. I think An Ocean Between Us is their best album and Tim’s vocals were best on Powerless Rise but sadly ever since he’s come back, he sounds like he’s trying to scream with his mouth full

    • @bluestreak5172
      @bluestreak5172 3 роки тому +1

      @@specialk8888 ikr. I get that he probably didn't have much time to practice, but come on now, his "new vocals" sound soooo strange to me, and I can't get used to them either lol.

  • @hazelnut49
    @hazelnut49 3 роки тому

    AS I Laying Dying is dead to me! 😡

  • @danskFF
    @danskFF 3 роки тому

    the devil wears prada /// go next -_-

  • @AFSkull
    @AFSkull 3 роки тому

    Old riffs are more "memorable".
    New ones are heavy, technical, but not catchy

  • @t3rR0r2z
    @t3rR0r2z 2 роки тому

    bro, it's so funny how they're trying so hard on the newer ones, and it still sounds like ass. rough. old songs sound dope though

  • @kurt18th
    @kurt18th 3 роки тому

    Fake yawn made me yawn.

  • @xxxfallenseraphxx
    @xxxfallenseraphxx 2 роки тому

    So well done! Can we just take a minute and talk about that verse riff from my own grave tho? That shit is on another level entirely