From Sushruta: "It's not that I don't identify as a Brahmin. After all, that's something I can't change, and I have benefited from caste privilege. It is rather that I don't attach prestige to the label."
That's a gross misrepresentation of what caste is. First of all caste is not homogenous. The same caste might have a higher status in one region and lower status in another region. And no Brahmans weren't generally priestly people. Just look at the census during the Raj. A significant percentage of Brahmins were in the millitary. Infact the there was literally a Brahman regiment in the British Indian army
@@RamuVerma-ch1ps not all Brahmins are the same. Brahmans aren't a homogeneous community. Only Vaidika Brahmans have the highest status. And that status wasn't directly to proportional to their wealth. Their status didn't afford them to do as they see fit
@@yungman7053 we are not talking about the classification of brahmins its about varna where they hold higher status but regarding wealth i think they had most power irrespective of wealth. Wealth is something that isnt something brahmins wanted to seak its not their duty but modern day brahmins are wealthy among other communities
I am surprised that you didn't mention this old verse: Here’s to dear old Boston, Home of the bean and the Cod, Where the Lowells speak only to Cabots, And the Cabots speak only to God.
If you want an inner glimpse of the Boston Brahmin life, mindset, and family dynamic, just watch the old Betty Davis film "Now, Voyager" from 1942. Ultra strict social expectations and a super high priority placed on marrying into other Brahmin families.
Lol I just moved in to an apartment on Beacon Hill and was immediately recommended this video. Where’s my complementary Somerset Club invitation and summer mansion in Newport smh
Great job! Keep it up! Frankly, I’m shocked to see comments from people who have never heard of the phrase Boston Brahmins before. Our country is becoming detached from its own history.
It was awesome meeting your boyfriend! He seems real awesome. I first heard the term Boston Brahmin when I was in grad school in Boston in the 90s, and knew it had to do with the elite, but not how many influential Americans hailed from this lineage. I’d definitely be into some deep dives of these families as I’ve really enjoyed your Gilded Age profiles. Awesome video! Thanks for sharing ❤
Just want to say, I've lived in five different States and visited 43/50 and never heard of the Boston Brahmins until this video... still, I like learning new things so thanks.
I am a transplant to Massachusetts. I swear the old school families here still have the Puritans fighting the Pilgrims. Blood line power is what the Revolutionary War and the Second Continental Congress was all about but I suspect there are English aristocrat families still waiting for the ROI (return on investment) on their colonial expeditions. My experience of the English/British is that the private libraries and Loyds have the documents, full ship rosters, and ledgers. I would love to see the place names here tied to their English locations and involved families..where they were then and their possible descendants today, especially in relation to today’s global banks, law firms and companies. Perhaps MIT and Mass Historical and NEHGS (aka His Gen) would cooperate on this as a big data analysis?
Their British distant relatives may not be in any elite circles today. People came to America to build wealth. They may not have had it in England. Then consider that means of making money over time has changed so those families that were wealthy centuries ago likely used their fortune, and didn’t start new modern endeavors to earn back their wealth.
I grew up in Massachusetts and Maine and am 70 years old. When growing up, I remember the preppy elitist drawl of some people that caused the hackles on my neck to raise. As a teen I hung out with the common riff-raff, well, I guess I was one of them. After doing my genealogy in the last 10 years, I joined the Mayflower Society and found out most of my lines were Puritans and Pilgrims. As a teen I never knew this or that I am descended from some of the snooty elites…damn. I guess it wouldn’t have mattered since we were on welfare anyway. Go Red Sox.
Hello,I just encountered you. Delighted and Subscribed. I would love it if you wanted to do a future video on the top Boston Brahmin families. I was born and live in New Jersey,however, some of my family ancestors are from Massachusetts. Not as early as the Mayflower; well to be precise one of my ancestors from Massachusetts comes from a line that pre dates the Mayflower, a Mashpee Wampanoag. The other ancestors from that line arrived here just before the American Revolution. So new-ish.
There is a website that gives you relationships between famous people and their ancestors. When I put the website in a comment, the comment vanished so I think you can't do it. But google for a site about famous people and famous kin. It's interesting to check random names because many of them trace back to those families in this video. I don't know if that is different than the non-famous population, but it's interesting to play around with this. The 1960s B actress Tuesday Welds seems to be related to everyone. It's crazy.
i live in holyoke, massachusetts. our city was a planned industrial city the creation of which was funded and supervised by several of the “Boston Brahmins” know here as the “Boston Group”. Many of our streets here are named using the surnames, such as Appleton, Cabot, Dwight, etc.
...I'm way too Southern for this, lol. I don't know if I can recall ever hearing the phrase. But since I already knew about the Brahmin caste, it wasn't a big leap. Interesting!
@@FreeSenpai I mean, the ancestry is pretty interesting. It involved a lot of careful selection, and maintenance. Theres clearly some aspects that one can be proud of.
@@allanhenriques2694 One shouldn't be ashamed of what they are, at the same time one has nothing to be proud of because of what they are. Show me what you have done, show me what you are capable of, rest is low iq behavior.
From Sushruta: "It's not that I don't identify as a Brahmin. After all, that's something I can't change, and I have benefited from caste privilege. It is rather that I don't attach prestige to the label."
That's a gross misrepresentation of what caste is. First of all caste is not homogenous. The same caste might have a higher status in one region and lower status in another region.
And no Brahmans weren't generally priestly people. Just look at the census during the Raj. A significant percentage of Brahmins were in the millitary. Infact the there was literally a Brahman regiment in the British Indian army
@@yungman7053you are wrong im from India.
And brahmins have highest status irrespective of region.
@@yungman7053brahmins have been in every type of occupation.
@@RamuVerma-ch1ps not all Brahmins are the same. Brahmans aren't a homogeneous community. Only Vaidika Brahmans have the highest status. And that status wasn't directly to proportional to their wealth. Their status didn't afford them to do as they see fit
@@yungman7053 we are not talking about the classification of brahmins its about varna where they hold higher status but regarding wealth i think they had most power irrespective of wealth.
Wealth is something that isnt something brahmins wanted to seak its not their duty but modern day brahmins are wealthy among other communities
Like you, our family is old but not Boston Brahmins. More like Boston Beans.
🤣🤣🤣
I am surprised that you didn't mention this old verse:
Here’s to dear old
Boston,
Home of the bean and the
Cod,
Where the Lowells speak
only to Cabots,
And the Cabots speak only
to God.
I have never heard of that rhyme before. What is it from?
@@AdelaideBeemanWhite The specific author is John Collins Bossidy, but it's a rhyme passed in social circles at the height of the Brahmin era.
If you want an inner glimpse of the Boston Brahmin life, mindset, and family dynamic, just watch the old Betty Davis film "Now, Voyager" from 1942.
Ultra strict social expectations and a super high priority placed on marrying into other Brahmin families.
Can't wait until one of them because as inbred as the Hapsburgs.
Lol I just moved in to an apartment on Beacon Hill and was immediately recommended this video. Where’s my complementary Somerset Club invitation and summer mansion in Newport smh
I would love to learn more about these other families. Thanks for the amazing video as always!
Great job! Keep it up!
Frankly, I’m shocked to see comments from people who have never heard of the phrase Boston Brahmins before. Our country is becoming detached from its own history.
I think Matthew Broderick's accent in the movie "Glory" was a Boston Brahmin accent.
It was awesome meeting your boyfriend! He seems real awesome. I first heard the term Boston Brahmin when I was in grad school in Boston in the 90s, and knew it had to do with the elite, but not how many influential Americans hailed from this lineage. I’d definitely be into some deep dives of these families as I’ve really enjoyed your Gilded Age profiles. Awesome video! Thanks for sharing ❤
Im from india and brahmins are most successful people here.
Their history is filled with greatness.
I am descended from some old Brahmin families though my family moved to the Deep South, my great grandparents were Adams and Choates!
Shanty Irish verses lace curtain Irish covers most of the rest of boston
Just want to say, I've lived in five different States and visited 43/50 and never heard of the Boston Brahmins until this video... still, I like learning new things so thanks.
Great video. It was nice to hear from your boyfriend. THX
So essentially, they were WASPyist of the WASPS, at least in Boston.
Yeah, basically, ha ha.
thank you for this! i've wondered about this since, oh, high school, i think, but i never took the time to dig into it.
Wow, I got schooled on things that I did not know before 👍
Nice to see your bf's cameo in the videos. Please bring him more often.
Will do!
I am a transplant to Massachusetts. I swear the old school families here still have the Puritans fighting the Pilgrims. Blood line power is what the Revolutionary War and the Second Continental Congress was all about but I suspect there are English aristocrat families still waiting for the ROI (return on investment) on their colonial expeditions. My experience of the English/British is that the private libraries and Loyds have the documents, full ship rosters, and ledgers. I would love to see the place names here tied to their English locations and involved families..where they were then and their possible descendants today, especially in relation to today’s global banks, law firms and companies. Perhaps MIT and Mass Historical and NEHGS (aka His Gen) would cooperate on this as a big data analysis?
Their British distant relatives may not be in any elite circles today. People came to America to build wealth. They may not have had it in England. Then consider that means of making money over time has changed so those families that were wealthy centuries ago likely used their fortune, and didn’t start new modern endeavors to earn back their wealth.
I grew up in Massachusetts and Maine and am 70 years old. When growing up, I remember the preppy elitist drawl of some people that caused the hackles on my neck to raise. As a teen I hung out with the common riff-raff, well, I guess I was one of them. After doing my genealogy in the last 10 years, I joined the Mayflower Society and found out most of my lines were Puritans and Pilgrims. As a teen I never knew this or that I am descended from some of the snooty elites…damn. I guess it wouldn’t have mattered since we were on welfare anyway. Go Red Sox.
I’m from Maine! Out West, my Maine accent reads as rather preppy. Back home I sound rather hick 😂
@@AdelaideBeemanWhite We used to go camping at Mount Blue State Park in Weld. Western Maine is really nice.
Hello,I just encountered you. Delighted and Subscribed. I would love it if you wanted to do a future video on the top Boston Brahmin families. I was born and live in New Jersey,however, some of my family ancestors are from Massachusetts. Not as early as the Mayflower; well to be precise one of my ancestors from Massachusetts comes from a line that pre dates the Mayflower, a Mashpee Wampanoag. The other ancestors from that line arrived here just before the American Revolution. So new-ish.
Welcome aboard! I am planning a video or two about them in the future.
There is a website that gives you relationships between famous people and their ancestors. When I put the website in a comment, the comment vanished so I think you can't do it. But google for a site about famous people and famous kin. It's interesting to check random names because many of them trace back to those families in this video. I don't know if that is different than the non-famous population, but it's interesting to play around with this. The 1960s B actress Tuesday Welds seems to be related to everyone. It's crazy.
uniquely informative as always, thanks!
i live in holyoke, massachusetts. our city was a planned industrial city the creation of which was funded and supervised by several of the “Boston Brahmins” know here as the “Boston Group”. Many of our streets here are named using the surnames, such as Appleton, Cabot, Dwight, etc.
That was good. I enjoyed it. Loved the blooper!
Your boyfriend seems nice. He’s very eloquent too
I think so too!
Sobriquet- love it! Outstanding word ❤
You two make a cute couple
Very interesting, I'm a Brit and this history is all new to me
I’m more of a Boston Shiva.
...I'm way too Southern for this, lol. I don't know if I can recall ever hearing the phrase. But since I already knew about the Brahmin caste, it wasn't a big leap. Interesting!
It’s definitely a Northwestern thing LOL, in the south we had the gentry or the planter class. Just rich folks
isn't Jennifer Coolidge distantly related to Silent Cal?
I think they're a hockey team ain't they?
Robert Lowell!
I am bhramin from India ❤️❤️😊
Nothing to be proud of.
@@FreeSenpai I mean, the ancestry is pretty interesting. It involved a lot of careful selection, and maintenance. Theres clearly some aspects that one can be proud of.
No one is interested
@@allanhenriques2694 One shouldn't be ashamed of what they are, at the same time one has nothing to be proud of because of what they are. Show me what you have done, show me what you are capable of, rest is low iq behavior.
@@FreeSenpaiof course it is lol
Im not brahmin but they are most intelligent and elite people.
Their contributions and valour is vast.
What a load of garbage You have to go through Harvard like Thoreau and stuff to be a boston brahmin