5:10 Women in certain Asian and African countries wear rings around their necks to extend them. And for a time in the middle-ages women would shave the front of their head to extend the forehead. And then there's foot-binding... So there are historical references to body modification for fashion which do not have an association with fertility.
I have watched a few videos on foot-binding and what I've gathered is that that practice was 's*xual' in the way that a woman with bound feet was seen as a beautiful decoration of a house and fully at her man's mercy. It spread from the palace as a way to follow the palace's fashion and to show that they, whatever family did follow it, is wealthy enough to have one daughter/wife who lies around and does nothing (because even walking was a challenge). Then it became a 'tradition.' At least that's what I've heard.
@O-Demi You are correct. It was considered beautiful, not s*xual. It typically meant the woman would marry well and that marriage would raise the status of the woman's family. But because of the pain involved and the need for labor, if a family had more than one daughter, only the eldest daughter would have her feet bound.
Some forms of body modification may have no association with fertility alone, femininity and womanhood can be observed in phenomenons that fertility can not describe; thus women acros the globe have explored countless ways of embracing and accentuating their femininity/womanhood. We are all humans, so it stands to reason that significant signs of fertility like broad hips and large breasts are universally regarded as signs of fertility. So, body mods like foot binding and neck elongation may make Western people wonder, "what does this have to do with fertility?" Unless the exhibition of fertility wasn't even the point.
My thing is that I haven’t seen fashion in style in a very long time… since boot cut jeans or earlier. It’s like nothing is neither in nor out of style because there isn’t any.
I’ve found style to be very regional. In SoCal the 90s have returned, and young people wear huge jeans and tube tops with sweater tied around the waist. Versus my family in Baltimore who still wear the skinny jeans and scoop necks of 10+ years ago. It varies with locality.
The one item that might be driving fashion is spandex. Skinny jeans, yoga pants, and leggings just wouldn't work without stretchy materials. These itemss are all extremely casual and maybe not highly fashionable. I could go to any box store or mall and see multiple people wearing them. Skinny jeans and yoga pants seem to be waning on popularity now.
My great great grandfather, Samuel Russell Wilmot (1829-1897) invented a spring steel hoop held together by a brass clip around 1864 to replace the whalebone hoop originally used in hoop skirts because whalebone was becoming harder to obtain and therefore more expensive. This was because with whalers hunting the whales, they had to go further away to find the whales. The business he created due to this spring steel hoop was the Wilmot & Kissam Mfg. Co. in Brooklyn, NY. By 1865, the company moved to Bridgeport, CT at P. T. Barnum’s request and they reorganized as Bridgeport Brass.
Partly, I think Covid made us much more aware of not bringing illness into places. If you had a cold before it was common for it to feel like a moral failing to let the cold stop you from doing what you always did. Covid made us rethink the "power through illness" thing in a huge way. and those with the ability to stay home and recover are more likely to see the wisdom in doing that and take the rest they need. Glad you are feeling better and thank you for the very interesting video!
Unfortunately in the UK working through illness is still common. Carers in my sheltered housing still work through colds - often without even wearing masks.
Your videos are very informative, your research impeccable and your oratory and demeanor would awe a Roman Senator. But, what I love the most and keeps me coming back for more is your sense of humor… 😊
Have you read Ruth Goodman's "How to be a Victorian"? She's an award winning re-enactor on BBC and the shows cover different eras. Good read for the next cold. She's funny and brings us to the every day life of people in different eras. I loved her "How to Behave Badly in Elizabethan England". Now if I could get my time machine working!
I hope you are feeling better! It made me think of the Victorian "consumption chic" look of pale skin and veiny hands, since so many people had it. There's a line from The 1975 song, "The 1975" on "Being Funny in a Foreign Language" : "You'll never make kids pay attention in class with the world in a state of ubiquit-ass." So I kept thinking of that every time you said, "Ubiquitous." Such a great word! 🙂
Last fall I had a cold that kept me in bed for a week. I’ve had Covid twice. Prior to that, I hardly ever got colds and when they did, they were mild and only lasted a day or two. I’m glad you’re feeling better! This was fascinating. I think you hit the nail on the head there in arguing that the Industrial Revolution was in many ways a democratizing force in fashion and a push factor in the rapid style changes we see. I love how though provoking your content is. Thanks for all your hard work in putting out such awesome content! Take care.
My first thought was that you were looking especially beautiful! Then I read what you said about the lighting, which didn't change my mind, by the way! 😊❤🙏
Biologist here: CoVID has a cumulative damage effect to some people's immune system. That's why so many folks are having harder times kicking colds, etc.
I love the Victorian era! Whenever your videos are posted, it’s a little documentary for me & very interesting. I don’t hear much about the men’s clothing 🤔 & can you please explain what the men were wearing down below by their “man hood?” I didn’t quite understand it 🤨
It’s called a cod piece. It started off as a piece of detachable clothing that would cover the masculine anatomy, but could be removed to allow bathroom access. However, as time progressed, it became more and more ornate, elaborate, and oversized. Some men even used them as purses.
Super interesting! My daughter was filling me in re: the musical "Sunday in the Park with George" and the painting that inspired it, about fashions in Paris in the 1880s, particularly the main female character. Everything you say lines up perfectly!
SarsCov2 can sometimes act like a cold during the acute phase - but unless your immune system is gone (& SC2 can destroy your immune system, among other things), it's more likely you didn't have a cold, you caught SarsCov2 again. Please rest "excessively" as this can lessen the risk of, and severity of, Long Covid.
@@AdelaideBeemanWhite Best bet with a "RAT" (Rapid Antigen Test) is to take one every other day, & do 2 -3 tests. Two negative tests in a row decrease chances of a false negative, and 3 in a row makes sure to catch variants that start showing + C later on the tests than other variants. People are typically shedding virus 7-14 days, though some variants keep sharing the joy up to 33 days. If your acute phase has very mild to none symptoms you wouldn't know you're spreading it. Masking really helps slow transmission. Hope you're feeling better.
This kinda reminds me of Lemmino‘s „Bygone Visions of Cosmic Neighbors“. They were so optimistic and excited for the future back then. Also Nicole Rudolph‘s: „The Future of Fashion Predicted by the Past: 150 years of Retrofuturism“. I don’t know, it just makes me so sad that we (understandably) are really pessimistic about the future. I honestly want that optimism, but I don’t know how to get there…
I think that your premise is correct for clothing for the masses, but if you look at designer clothing (not just haute couture, but most medium and large designers), new processes and technologies, more than new synthetic fabrics, are driving what clothing is being made and how they look. It is just less obvious when in the thick of things than when looking back in time. I also have to give it to synthetic fabrics - even polyester, which I hate - as they have made possible clothing that can hold its shape and hold colors and sheens that are not possible using natural fabric. The trends of glitter and metallic looks are only possible because of synthetics, and the trends re pleating and other 3D styling would be significantly harder to achieve and not last without them. Changes in metal manufacturing caused hugely important but unseen changes to clothes in the era you were talking about, and I bet that at the time, neither society nor women individually thought that their clothes looked immediately and drastically different. These days clothing is being altered by the use of new tools to fashion and refashion fabrics (e.g CNC and laser cutting machines), new treatments that can be applied to the fabrics (e.g. silicone), new ways to design (e.g CAD). Moreover, even as change was trickling down to the masses because of industrialization, the average person still didn't have the money or interest in changing their style with every swing of fashion in the 19th century. Same goes for the 21st century, if you look at the fashion history of the ultra wealthy and celebrities, you willl see greater style change than on the street, and the innovations are considered less important when reporting on it than how the everyday person can try to be as glamorous as them. Modernity is 'modern' in fashion terms. Its just that fashion innovation has never truly been, nor will ever truly be, for the masses. You will never see innovation in chain stores or even normal boutiques, so most people will never experience it.
Love your channel, I could listen to you talk about anything, your understanding and compassion towards the people of the past is wonderful to see. Your point about modernity is valid, fashion is sort of dead now and its very sad
The Spanish codpiece was otoh smaller than the rest of the world and sometimes came in interesting shapes. As I found out from someone who’d made a study of it.
Thank you very, very much for this really informative talk. As I understand it, you talk about the huge influence of industrialisation on fashion and put up the hypotheses, that there has not been such a big influence of technology on fashion since. In my opinion a main influence on fashion in the 20s and 21st century is the invention of very stretchy fabrics. These lead to a much closer fit (i.e. stretch) to the body. It is possible to make quite easy or (in my opinion) bad and cheap patterns, that do not fit the body well, but the stretch makes it wearable. In my opinion this has had a huge influence on the general siluette of the everyday clothing and even fashion design (even though I don't like it). I also observe that in the vintage and historical fashion community here on youtube, it is very much emphasized that people in the past altered their siluette with padding and good optical illusions, rather than for example tight lacing. And the community wonders, why today there is a trend to alter the body with diets, sports and even operations. Given the stretchy materials and the incredible close fit that can be achieved, I think this is only logical (even though I do not approve). Overall I think the modern technology of stretchy fabrics has had a huge influence on fashion, on the fashionable siluette and on the beauty standards, though maybe not the kind of influence a good artist and fashion designer would have wished for. Thank you very much for your videos, that can give us a different perspective on modern times, beauty standards and more fashion options to chose from!
Yes and those courses were built to last my grandmother had one of those and when my mother realized that she hadn't been tying it up and she was looking twice her size because she didn't like the discomfort that pulling it in required you know pulling the strings in required she decided to give my grandmother a poll on the course of the only time I ever seen a course it wasn't Gone with the wind and to be perfectly honest I didn't believe anybody still wore them or had any of those old-fashioned garments but my grandmother did because she didn't like the newfangled garment and she was a woman of her times in Europe and her times in her area in Europe they had a really changed much like in England or in America at least not till the 20s or 30s and she wasn't going to change just because everybody else had... My memory by the way is from the early 1980s when my grandmother was unfortunately dying of cancer and my mother was just having a go at her because she couldn't believe she was still wearing that kind of a garment and hadn't bothered to tie it up and never did.
Great video and I love this type of history. I think we might see something like this in our life time as new technologies like spider silk being able to be made on a larger scale and eco friendly materials are developed and hopefully start to over take plastics. I also hope that we move to better quality materials that are not produced by slave or close to slave labor.
First time I've come across your videos. I loved it. Very informatitive. Your dress, what could be seen, seemed to be very lovely. Did you make it yourself? Keep your videos coming as I feel they are very helpful for the history buffs. Thank you. 😊
Thank you so much! Yes, I did. You can see a complete view of it in my video “Why Victorian Women Changed Their Clothes Five Times A Day,” and you can see how I made it by watching my “Mercerized Dress” playlist.
Ah, yes, industrialization, my mortal nemesis 😭 Absolute aside, you look exactly like a photo of my (insert numerical generation gap) grandmother, and I think that's perfectly delightful.
Hello adelaide i wanted to ask you something that its a bit unrelated to the video. I was wondering if youve ever worn historical clothes that are from a different time period than the 1890s. Ive heard you say in one of your videos that wearing modern clothes feels like wearing a costume, if you have worn historical clothes that arent 1890s did they also feel costume-y? Hope you respond and thank you in advance! I adore your videos :)
That is a very good question! I have worn costumes from other eras, and they did feel quite costumey, however, they were not very well-made, and they were specifically designed to be costumes. So if I were to make something from another era with the intention of it being a regular, daily thing, it might not feel costumey. it also depends on what era we’re talking about. I think it would be difficult for something from, say, the 1590s to not feel like a costume, but if I were to make something from the 1880s, that might feel much more normal.
Question to a person with the 1880s/1890s type of fringe: How do you style it? Rag curls? And how much effort is it? How long does it take to style it and how often do you have to style it? I‘m thinking of getting that kind of fringe as well, but I have limited energy due to illness, so I want to know if it would be possible for me.
I generally use curlers. Rag curls do work, but I find that they take longer. The most effort comes in the evening when you’re setting the curls. I can generally make one set last for two or three days. Once you’ve gotten some practice, it only takes a couple of minutes to put in the curlers. Styling your hair in the morning is very easy. Just put the back of your hair up, take out the curlers, and brush through the curls a couple times with a wide tooth comb.
By the way one question how did those women with the big poofy behind I should know the name of it but I cannot remember right now how did they sit down in that thing.
Agreed, as amakeup artist I think her makeup is executed perfectly, and all colours and proportions suit her face shape, complexion and eye colour very well.
@@GM-qq1wi - Wow, thanks! It’s all cheap drugstore make up, and mostly applied and blended with my fingers, ha ha. So I’m pleased that I did such a good job!
@@AdelaideBeemanWhite Yess, same. I tend to only use name brand products and brushes for my clients. I'd happily slap my mug on with my fingers every day, as long as my clients never know haha. X
Whoa. I and two of my kids are on day 8 of a seriously horrific cold and I was finally able to make it out of bed and to have some semblance of a very easy “normal” day today. Best wishes to all who are dealing with similar situations! I wonder how you feel about 3d printing and other digital technology as far as possibly driving fashion in the coming years? I feel as though it might take us in a direction that is further from the norm than anything else has since the Industrial Revolution. Thoughts, anyone?
I think that it is possible, however, I am not going to bank on it. I just don’t think that 3-D printing and VR are changing the world as much as the industrial revolution did.
Don't laugh but if that first dress you showed had no petticoat it would be similar to the clothes that I currently wear my daughter always did say I look like I belong in the 1800s somehow and she's not too far wrong.
Hoop skirt styles defy gravity and in an article (I unluckily can't link to) it says they wanted to achieve a light and flowy fashion. Compared to original mantuas, panier styles were not as draggy, though they applied the matua style to the then newly invented paniers. Giving shape to nature (of any form) seemed to be the trend and it went from hoops to gardens and into everything, really.
Oh no, it was conspicuous consumption. And hampering women’s movement. It is amazing what women achieved in long and voluminous skirts, but they stopped wearing them as soon as possible, there is a reason for that. Although I know from personal experience, that a carefully selected skirt gives you more movement that a pair of jeans without spandex.
@@nommh Is that why women were in charge of their own fashion, and had the completely open elegant design of the 1810s, to the 1890s being very uniformed and large, puffed. or 1925 to 1935 going back to suit fashion from the sweater/blouse, and long skirt of the 1925 look, hat of course. This is not the opressive era you think it is, for one, women got the right to vote first when?
I don't do Instagram because I can't I don't have the hands that work and my daughter who had my Instagram account and was using it has gotten very upset with Instagram because of the takeover don't ask it's a long story but for me it's because I can't use it I physically cannot use it so if you want to be angry at me for not following you on Instagram that's not my fault I can't follow anybody. However I did give you a thumbs up so that should count for something... I'm using voice to text it doesn't necessarily right or punctuate the way I would like to so I can't fix it I can't do anything about it you get the idea.
I think that one of the reasons the shape shifting via fashion is in decline is that the fashionable thing is now the body itself. Look at silicone boobs and when they had gone ubiquitious, the Kardashians came along with their absurdly large behinds and then getting rid of them again. For those who cannot afford constant elective surgery there is always the gym and the expectation that we go there to change our bodies. There is also the cushion lip and the very boring straight little childs nose. The more we can see of the body beyond clothes therefore, the more the money ‘elites’ can show off their fashionable bodies.
I have never seen this channel before but I clicked on because the title of your video is very compelling. But it is very frustrating to watch and I will tell you why since others may feel the same and it may help in the long run - I hope. Your camera stays only on you for too long and it is way too close to your face. It is frustrating trying to catch these great images you have before they wink away after mere seconds. Viewers may appreciate it more if you narrate through your images. For example, I would have loved to hear your commentary on the outfits you showed in that fashion clip you played early on instead of the musical background. Lastly it took too long for you to get on with the show in your opening. Again, I am just saying in case I wasn’t the only one sighing through this. I appreciate your knowledge of your subject. Maybe I will try your channel again.
Whenever I want to see more of an image, I use the pause function. I think everyone has different preferences of camera angles and editing. I personally didn't think the intro was too long, but that would reflect my preference. You may appreciate the channel Weird History. They are very entertaining and use the kind of narration you're describing, but you will have to do your own fact-checking because they don't. E.g. their videos on corsets and wigs. One of the things I appreciate about Adelaide is that her research is impeccable, along with the way she presents it.
It must be much easier to produce a video with this single camera narration. I do appreciate that you are putting your work into research instead of production. But, this is good advice.
@@AdelaideBeemanWhite I don't think it's luck. I use a lot of medicinal herbs that are inadvertently measures of prevention. Like oiling a sewing machine to keep it in top shape. ♡
Goodness you’re hard on yourself! You look nothing like a clown in that light. You look just as lovely as ever!
5:10 Women in certain Asian and African countries wear rings around their necks to extend them. And for a time in the middle-ages women would shave the front of their head to extend the forehead. And then there's foot-binding... So there are historical references to body modification for fashion which do not have an association with fertility.
I have watched a few videos on foot-binding and what I've gathered is that that practice was 's*xual' in the way that a woman with bound feet was seen as a beautiful decoration of a house and fully at her man's mercy. It spread from the palace as a way to follow the palace's fashion and to show that they, whatever family did follow it, is wealthy enough to have one daughter/wife who lies around and does nothing (because even walking was a challenge). Then it became a 'tradition.' At least that's what I've heard.
@O-Demi You are correct. It was considered beautiful, not s*xual. It typically meant the woman would marry well and that marriage would raise the status of the woman's family. But because of the pain involved and the need for labor, if a family had more than one daughter, only the eldest daughter would have her feet bound.
Good point😊
Some forms of body modification may have no association with fertility alone, femininity and womanhood can be observed in phenomenons that fertility can not describe; thus women acros the globe have explored countless ways of embracing and accentuating their femininity/womanhood. We are all humans, so it stands to reason that significant signs of fertility like broad hips and large breasts are universally regarded as signs of fertility. So, body mods like foot binding and neck elongation may make Western people wonder, "what does this have to do with fertility?" Unless the exhibition of fertility wasn't even the point.
My thing is that I haven’t seen fashion in style in a very long time… since boot cut jeans or earlier. It’s like nothing is neither in nor out of style because there isn’t any.
I’ve found style to be very regional. In SoCal the 90s have returned, and young people wear huge jeans and tube tops with sweater tied around the waist. Versus my family in Baltimore who still wear the skinny jeans and scoop necks of 10+ years ago. It varies with locality.
It is amazing to me that something as small as an eyelet could have such an impact on culture.
The one item that might be driving fashion is spandex. Skinny jeans, yoga pants, and leggings just wouldn't work without stretchy materials. These itemss are all extremely casual and maybe not highly fashionable. I could go to any box store or mall and see multiple people wearing them. Skinny jeans and yoga pants seem to be waning on popularity now.
My great great grandfather, Samuel Russell Wilmot (1829-1897) invented a spring steel hoop held together by a brass clip around 1864 to replace the whalebone hoop originally used in hoop skirts because whalebone was becoming harder to obtain and therefore more expensive. This was because with whalers hunting the whales, they had to go further away to find the whales. The business he created due to this spring steel hoop was the Wilmot & Kissam Mfg. Co. in Brooklyn, NY. By 1865, the company moved to Bridgeport, CT at P. T. Barnum’s request and they reorganized as Bridgeport Brass.
Partly, I think Covid made us much more aware of not bringing illness into places. If you had a cold before it was common for it to feel like a moral failing to let the cold stop you from doing what you always did. Covid made us rethink the "power through illness" thing in a huge way. and those with the ability to stay home and recover are more likely to see the wisdom in doing that and take the rest they need. Glad you are feeling better and thank you for the very interesting video!
Unfortunately in the UK working through illness is still common. Carers in my sheltered housing still work through colds - often without even wearing masks.
Your videos are very informative, your research impeccable and your oratory and demeanor would awe a Roman Senator. But, what I love the most and keeps me coming back for more is your sense of humor… 😊
Wow, thank you so much ☺️
Have you read Ruth Goodman's "How to be a Victorian"? She's an award winning re-enactor on BBC and the shows cover different eras. Good read for the next cold. She's funny and brings us to the every day life of people in different eras. I loved her "How to Behave Badly in Elizabethan England". Now if I could get my time machine working!
I hope you are feeling better! It made me think of the Victorian "consumption chic" look of pale skin and veiny hands, since so many people had it.
There's a line from The 1975 song, "The 1975" on "Being Funny in a Foreign Language" :
"You'll never make kids pay attention in class with the world in a state of ubiquit-ass."
So I kept thinking of that every time you said, "Ubiquitous." Such a great word! 🙂
Last fall I had a cold that kept me in bed for a week. I’ve had Covid twice. Prior to that, I hardly ever got colds and when they did, they were mild and only lasted a day or two. I’m glad you’re feeling better! This was fascinating. I think you hit the nail on the head there in arguing that the Industrial Revolution was in many ways a democratizing force in fashion and a push factor in the rapid style changes we see. I love how though provoking your content is. Thanks for all your hard work in putting out such awesome content! Take care.
Thank you so much ☺️
My first thought was that you were looking especially beautiful! Then I read what you said about the lighting, which didn't change my mind, by the way! 😊❤🙏
Oh thank you!
Biologist here: CoVID has a cumulative damage effect to some people's immune system. That's why so many folks are having harder times kicking colds, etc.
My first post covid virus knocked me out for 4 weeks.
It gave me arthritis because my immune system overreacted and it is getting worse. Hoping new arthritis doctor help me with better mobility
I thought Covid was a cold.
That makes a lot of sense.
Of course it has nothing to do with the shot
I love watching your videos since I get to learn something new everyday and they inspire me to pursue studying history and sewing.
I'm so glad!
I love the Victorian era! Whenever your videos are posted, it’s a little documentary for me & very interesting. I don’t hear much about the men’s clothing 🤔 & can you please explain what the men were wearing down below by their “man hood?” I didn’t quite understand it 🤨
It’s called a cod piece. It started off as a piece of detachable clothing that would cover the masculine anatomy, but could be removed to allow bathroom access. However, as time progressed, it became more and more ornate, elaborate, and oversized. Some men even used them as purses.
Super interesting! My daughter was filling me in re: the musical "Sunday in the Park with George" and the painting that inspired it, about fashions in Paris in the 1880s, particularly the main female character. Everything you say lines up perfectly!
I always learn so much watching your videos. I love your fashion. Get well soon!
Thank you so much!
I wish that some of us “enthusiasts” were in the same town so I could invite everybody over for a dress-up party or fancy tea or something 😏
Your face has really the 1890s vibe! It's amazing, you are very beautiful (not saying this in a creepy way I am a woman)
Omg that clarification cracked me up 😭😭😭 keep being you bestie ❤❤❤
Thanks, ha ha.
SarsCov2 can sometimes act like a cold during the acute phase - but unless your immune system is gone (& SC2 can destroy your immune system, among other things), it's more likely you didn't have a cold, you caught SarsCov2 again. Please rest "excessively" as this can lessen the risk of, and severity of, Long Covid.
Huh, I suppose that is possible. I took a covid test, and it came back negative, but the tests are not always correct.
@@AdelaideBeemanWhite Best bet with a "RAT" (Rapid Antigen Test) is to take one every other day, & do 2 -3 tests. Two negative tests in a row decrease chances of a false negative, and 3 in a row makes sure to catch variants that start showing + C later on the tests than other variants. People are typically shedding virus 7-14 days, though some variants keep sharing the joy up to 33 days. If your acute phase has very mild to none symptoms you wouldn't know you're spreading it. Masking really helps slow transmission. Hope you're feeling better.
Convalescence is real and should be prescribed as it once was! Some ppl do need more time to recover than our current culture allows for.
Excellent video. Thank you
Glad you liked it!
This kinda reminds me of Lemmino‘s „Bygone Visions of Cosmic Neighbors“. They were so optimistic and excited for the future back then. Also Nicole Rudolph‘s: „The Future of Fashion Predicted by the Past: 150 years of Retrofuturism“.
I don’t know, it just makes me so sad that we (understandably) are really pessimistic about the future. I honestly want that optimism, but I don’t know how to get there…
I think that your premise is correct for clothing for the masses, but if you look at designer clothing (not just haute couture, but most medium and large designers), new processes and technologies, more than new synthetic fabrics, are driving what clothing is being made and how they look. It is just less obvious when in the thick of things than when looking back in time.
I also have to give it to synthetic fabrics - even polyester, which I hate - as they have made possible clothing that can hold its shape and hold colors and sheens that are not possible using natural fabric. The trends of glitter and metallic looks are only possible because of synthetics, and the trends re pleating and other 3D styling would be significantly harder to achieve and not last without them.
Changes in metal manufacturing caused hugely important but unseen changes to clothes in the era you were talking about, and I bet that at the time, neither society nor women individually thought that their clothes looked immediately and drastically different. These days clothing is being altered by the use of new tools to fashion and refashion fabrics (e.g CNC and laser cutting machines), new treatments that can be applied to the fabrics (e.g. silicone), new ways to design (e.g CAD). Moreover, even as change was trickling down to the masses because of industrialization, the average person still didn't have the money or interest in changing their style with every swing of fashion in the 19th century. Same goes for the 21st century, if you look at the fashion history of the ultra wealthy and celebrities, you willl see greater style change than on the street, and the innovations are considered less important when reporting on it than how the everyday person can try to be as glamorous as them. Modernity is 'modern' in fashion terms. Its just that fashion innovation has never truly been, nor will ever truly be, for the masses. You will never see innovation in chain stores or even normal boutiques, so most people will never experience it.
Love your channel, I could listen to you talk about anything, your understanding and compassion towards the people of the past is wonderful to see. Your point about modernity is valid, fashion is sort of dead now and its very sad
Good to see you back. And yes, I agree, after Covid, simple colds are so much worse on us.
The Spanish codpiece was otoh smaller than the rest of the world and sometimes came in interesting shapes. As I found out from someone who’d made a study of it.
Not to mention the discovery aniline dye
Thank you very, very much for this really informative talk. As I understand it, you talk about the huge influence of industrialisation on fashion and put up the hypotheses, that there has not been such a big influence of technology on fashion since.
In my opinion a main influence on fashion in the 20s and 21st century is the invention of very stretchy fabrics. These lead to a much closer fit (i.e. stretch) to the body. It is possible to make quite easy or (in my opinion) bad and cheap patterns, that do not fit the body well, but the stretch makes it wearable. In my opinion this has had a huge influence on the general siluette of the everyday clothing and even fashion design (even though I don't like it).
I also observe that in the vintage and historical fashion community here on youtube, it is very much emphasized that people in the past altered their siluette with padding and good optical illusions, rather than for example tight lacing. And the community wonders, why today there is a trend to alter the body with diets, sports and even operations. Given the stretchy materials and the incredible close fit that can be achieved, I think this is only logical (even though I do not approve).
Overall I think the modern technology of stretchy fabrics has had a huge influence on fashion, on the fashionable siluette and on the beauty standards, though maybe not the kind of influence a good artist and fashion designer would have wished for.
Thank you very much for your videos, that can give us a different perspective on modern times, beauty standards and more fashion options to chose from!
You make some very compelling points. I will be considering them most carefully.
I really loved this video. Thank you!
You are so welcome!
Yes and those courses were built to last my grandmother had one of those and when my mother realized that she hadn't been tying it up and she was looking twice her size because she didn't like the discomfort that pulling it in required you know pulling the strings in required she decided to give my grandmother a poll on the course of the only time I ever seen a course it wasn't Gone with the wind and to be perfectly honest I didn't believe anybody still wore them or had any of those old-fashioned garments but my grandmother did because she didn't like the newfangled garment and she was a woman of her times in Europe and her times in her area in Europe they had a really changed much like in England or in America at least not till the 20s or 30s and she wasn't going to change just because everybody else had... My memory by the way is from the early 1980s when my grandmother was unfortunately dying of cancer and my mother was just having a go at her because she couldn't believe she was still wearing that kind of a garment and hadn't bothered to tie it up and never did.
Great video and I love this type of history. I think we might see something like this in our life time as new technologies like spider silk being able to be made on a larger scale and eco friendly materials are developed and hopefully start to over take plastics. I also hope that we move to better quality materials that are not produced by slave or close to slave labor.
First time I've come across your videos. I loved it. Very informatitive. Your dress, what could be seen, seemed to be very lovely. Did you make it yourself? Keep your videos coming as I feel they are very helpful for the history buffs. Thank you. 😊
Thank you so much! Yes, I did. You can see a complete view of it in my video “Why Victorian Women Changed Their Clothes Five Times A Day,” and you can see how I made it by watching my “Mercerized Dress” playlist.
You look great, not clownish ❤
Ah, yes, industrialization, my mortal nemesis 😭
Absolute aside, you look exactly like a photo of my (insert numerical generation gap) grandmother, and I think that's perfectly delightful.
You showed up on my feed. Liked and subscribed!
Welcome aboard!
I agree. Sicknesses have seemed a lot worse since Covid.
The dress used in thumbnail is by Izabela from Priorattire.
It’s an original antique, but she did copy it recently.
@@AdelaideBeemanWhite I see, thank you
Hello adelaide i wanted to ask you something that its a bit unrelated to the video. I was wondering if youve ever worn historical clothes that are from a different time period than the 1890s. Ive heard you say in one of your videos that wearing modern clothes feels like wearing a costume, if you have worn historical clothes that arent 1890s did they also feel costume-y? Hope you respond and thank you in advance! I adore your videos :)
That is a very good question! I have worn costumes from other eras, and they did feel quite costumey, however, they were not very well-made, and they were specifically designed to be costumes. So if I were to make something from another era with the intention of it being a regular, daily thing, it might not feel costumey. it also depends on what era we’re talking about. I think it would be difficult for something from, say, the 1590s to not feel like a costume, but if I were to make something from the 1880s, that might feel much more normal.
Love your videos!
Glad you like them!
Question to a person with the 1880s/1890s type of fringe: How do you style it? Rag curls? And how much effort is it? How long does it take to style it and how often do you have to style it?
I‘m thinking of getting that kind of fringe as well, but I have limited energy due to illness, so I want to know if it would be possible for me.
I generally use curlers. Rag curls do work, but I find that they take longer. The most effort comes in the evening when you’re setting the curls. I can generally make one set last for two or three days. Once you’ve gotten some practice, it only takes a couple of minutes to put in the curlers. Styling your hair in the morning is very easy. Just put the back of your hair up, take out the curlers, and brush through the curls a couple times with a wide tooth comb.
@@AdelaideBeemanWhite Thank you so much! :D
@@AdelaideBeemanWhite I did it! I look so cute! :D
Thank you for helping me decide :)
@@TooSickToDressVictorian - Yay 😁
By the way one question how did those women with the big poofy behind I should know the name of it but I cannot remember right now how did they sit down in that thing.
Bustle. They are made of lightweight wire and fold upon themselves when you sit.
Actually your makeup looks great😊
Thank you so much 🙂
Agreed, as amakeup artist I think her makeup is executed perfectly, and all colours and proportions suit her face shape, complexion and eye colour very well.
@@GM-qq1wi - Wow, thanks! It’s all cheap drugstore make up, and mostly applied and blended with my fingers, ha ha. So I’m pleased that I did such a good job!
@@AdelaideBeemanWhite Yess, same. I tend to only use name brand products and brushes for my clients. I'd happily slap my mug on with my fingers every day, as long as my clients never know haha. X
Whoa. I and two of my kids are on day 8 of a seriously horrific cold and I was finally able to make it out of bed and to have some semblance of a very easy “normal” day today. Best wishes to all who are dealing with similar situations!
I wonder how you feel about 3d printing and other digital technology as far as possibly driving fashion in the coming years? I feel as though it might take us in a direction that is further from the norm than anything else has since the Industrial Revolution. Thoughts, anyone?
I think that it is possible, however, I am not going to bank on it. I just don’t think that 3-D printing and VR are changing the world as much as the industrial revolution did.
Dont forget the ridiculous shoulder pads for women in the 1980s.
They sound just like us, those Victorians.
These fashions should really come back from the 1900s and late 1800s. People don’t wear fashion anymore. They’re just wearing clothing.
Don't laugh but if that first dress you showed had no petticoat it would be similar to the clothes that I currently wear my daughter always did say I look like I belong in the 1800s somehow and she's not too far wrong.
I had the “flu” and, yes, it took forever, instead of the usual.
Bustles! ❤
Hoop skirt styles defy gravity and in an article (I unluckily can't link to) it says they wanted to achieve a light and flowy fashion.
Compared to original mantuas, panier styles were not as draggy, though they applied the matua style to the then newly invented paniers.
Giving shape to nature (of any form) seemed to be the trend and it went from hoops to gardens and into everything, really.
Maybe it was just the love of opulence
Oh no, it was conspicuous consumption. And hampering women’s movement. It is amazing what women achieved in long and voluminous skirts, but they stopped wearing them as soon as possible, there is a reason for that. Although I know from personal experience, that a carefully selected skirt gives you more movement that a pair of jeans without spandex.
@@nommh Is that why women were in charge of their own fashion, and had the completely open elegant design of the 1810s, to the 1890s being very uniformed and large, puffed. or 1925 to 1935 going back to suit fashion from the sweater/blouse, and long skirt of the 1925 look, hat of course.
This is not the opressive era you think it is, for one, women got the right to vote first when?
I don't do Instagram because I can't I don't have the hands that work and my daughter who had my Instagram account and was using it has gotten very upset with Instagram because of the takeover don't ask it's a long story but for me it's because I can't use it I physically cannot use it so if you want to be angry at me for not following you on Instagram that's not my fault I can't follow anybody. However I did give you a thumbs up so that should count for something... I'm using voice to text it doesn't necessarily right or punctuate the way I would like to so I can't fix it I can't do anything about it you get the idea.
I think that one of the reasons the shape shifting via fashion is in decline is that the fashionable thing is now the body itself. Look at silicone boobs and when they had gone ubiquitious, the Kardashians came along with their absurdly large behinds and then getting rid of them again. For those who cannot afford constant elective surgery there is always the gym and the expectation that we go there to change our bodies. There is also the cushion lip and the very boring straight little childs nose. The more we can see of the body beyond clothes therefore, the more the money ‘elites’ can show off their fashionable bodies.
I have never seen this channel before but I clicked on because the title of your video is very compelling. But it is very frustrating to watch and I will tell you why since others may feel the same and it may help in the long run - I hope. Your camera stays only on you for too long and it is way too close to your face. It is frustrating trying to catch these great images you have before they wink away after mere seconds. Viewers may appreciate it more if you narrate through your images. For example, I would have loved to hear your commentary on the outfits you showed in that fashion clip you played early on instead of the musical background. Lastly it took too long for you to get on with the show in your opening. Again, I am just saying in case I wasn’t the only one sighing through this. I appreciate your knowledge of your subject. Maybe I will try your channel again.
Thanks for the advice.
I find it heart warming the way you provide constructive advice to a sister. Very kind.
Whenever I want to see more of an image, I use the pause function. I think everyone has different preferences of camera angles and editing. I personally didn't think the intro was too long, but that would reflect my preference. You may appreciate the channel Weird History. They are very entertaining and use the kind of narration you're describing, but you will have to do your own fact-checking because they don't. E.g. their videos on corsets and wigs. One of the things I appreciate about Adelaide is that her research is impeccable, along with the way she presents it.
It must be much easier to produce a video with this single camera narration. I do appreciate that you are putting your work into research instead of production. But, this is good advice.
I don't get colds. Sorry you were so ill.
You’re lucky.
@@AdelaideBeemanWhite I don't think it's luck. I use a lot of medicinal herbs that are inadvertently measures of prevention. Like oiling a sewing machine to keep it in top shape. ♡
A celluloid collar and cuffs .... doesn't sound comfortable.🤔