Thank you for this video. Magazine construction requires a lot of thought. The Soviets had a special focus on feed lips of self loading firearms. They even machined feed lips into the TT-33. They knew that a magazine is the weak link of a self loading rifle. Make it tough, make it durable.
I love seeing old ass machine tools still running and putting out good work. I used to run a lathe that was retrofitted for CNC, it was original run with the paper ribbons with holes punched in to program it. Despite its age it could hold half thou tolerances
One of the most strangely beautiful things I have seen. Men doing a job and doing it well. Producing a quality product from start to finish in a single factory. Knowing that there is honor in work, all work, no matter how hard or dirty or repetitive. I think I'm going to watch it again.
Agree, but the thing is they produce something that has one single purpose, which is to carry bullets, which also have only one purpose, which is to destroy things. All these man of great skill do, every dat when they go to work in this factory, is contribute to more and more destruction on the planet they live on. Destruction done by humans of course. It's kinda sad to watch actually, because they can use their skills for so many other things that are much more useful and benificial to mankind and the planet as a whole. It means it's basically also a waste of raw materials. The more I think about it, the more sad it gets....
@@sandervandenberg977 Sometimes you need to destroy to protect.Would you not kill a man that was about to rape/kill your wife?If you wouldn't i don't want to live in the same neighbourhood as you.Also i don't think you apply the same standarts to wildlife even though they do same things- hunt other beings for food,kill to protect the pack.Life eat's life That's the way thing's are.
@@sandervandenberg977 While I perfectly understand where you're going with this, the fact is that pacifism just doesn't work. Yes, guns and knifes kill people. But those Guns and knives at the end of the day are tools, and we can choose to use them to protect good/innocent people from the 'wolves'.
@@2312TOMAS Ofcourse I would kill or hurt someone who's about to hurt or kill, rape whatever one of nu familymembers. But you're missing the point here. The point is: Why make something that is designed to hurt or kill other living (human)beings? Why designing that in the first place? Wanting to hurt others comes from fear. It's fear that we have to overcome. Of course we need to be able to defend ourselves against "fear", but eventually it's better to battle fear itself. Then you won't need these horrible weapons anymore.
@@Commanderhurtz1 It all depends on how you see or perceive yourself and humanity. Pacifism is a very tough road, and requires saying the "right" things combined with the willingness to sacrifice and to stay NON-violent no matter what. It is however (I think) the answer to all of your "problems". There are many people though, that believe that humanity is inherently doomed to keep killing & hurting eachother, because that's in our nature, our genes or whatever. I don't think that's true. But if most people believe this, then THAT will become our common reality. Such is the power of (human) belief. So all I'm saying is: Be very careful with what you believe (in).
Just bought 3 of these for $12.97 each. Considering the amount of manual labor put into building these they are a bargain plus they have a lifetime guarantee. A real quality product.
@@freshcancer713 what are you talking about?? Wages in Bosnia are not significantly lower than surrounding countries. Whole Balkan has low wages, and Bosnia stands somewhere in the middle. You singling out Bosniaks makes me think that you have some personal problems with them...
Get that poor guy at 3:40 a chair or lift that machine up! Watching him hunched over like that and knowing he's doing that every day is killing my back! lol. Excellent video.
George's Masonry >> Maybe he picked up cigarette butts in the former USSR as his past job and that is him standing up straight, perhaps they actually lowered the machine for him.
WOW, I always wanted to see how these mags were made, very impressive, so these are blued, like the Yugo mags? These really aren't that much more expensive than a good surplus mag, I've seen them between $17.50 and $18.95. When are the 20 round mags going to available, are they still going through testing?
I work in gun factory my self , i love CNC machining and love to watch videos like this , great video , just one thing i didn’t see anybody using safety glasses , bye!🇺🇸🇲🇽
What happened to Matra & the Gibbs AK magazine? The website does not even exist anymore. Did the company disolve or is there a current import ban from Bosnia?
@@comus3 OK, thx for update.. Do you know if the Croatian BHO mags currently being sold in the U.S., are comparable to these Gibbs mags? Some people say they may be made in the same factory.
That bend in the mag adds so many stages and pieces to the production. Complicated compared to a FNFAL M14 which from memory is 1 piece of sheet I think not sure been too long
Perhaps unrelated to the Matra I know, the one that makes radars, missiles and answering machines. But that was interesting to watch, and rassuring that there are still people who manufacture products like that.
1 word. Ergonomics! LOL. Stop making your workers hunch over all day. give them chairs or raise the machines so they don't get back injuries over time.
I purchased a few of the Gibbs-Matra mags and the quality control was non-existent. A large percentage of people couldn't get the mags to lock up in their rifles (including Wasrs, Saigas and npaps). Reaching out to Gibbs Rifle for warranty replacement and they said it was normal for new mags not to fit and they just needed to be filed. I've never had a new or surplus mag need filing to fit any of my rifles.
That's a whole lot of parts, labor and processes and in Hollywood films guys just shoot up and chuck the empty mags like empty matchboxes. Part two should've been the title credit scene of "Lord of War". Nice video btw..👍🏽👍🏽
I recognized every part, every spot weld...and even what looks like factory “pre-weathering” with the paint! ‘Tis a beautiful thing! I’ll take 50, please!
Someone should add an explanation of all the processes involved and the reason for them using the subtitles. Seeing it is one thing, but understanding it is another thing entirely.
If they did this in the USA, it will be one operator and one big ass computerize machine. One large roll of metal sheet on one end and at the other end a completed 30 round magazine costing $75.
Next is to get the decoilers in and setup the presses for auto runs most of you dies look like they are built for auto feed. Good work. How would you like the machine making 12,000 to 20,000 parts in 8 hours.
As a gun enthusiast, former machine shop worker, and person who is fascinated with how things are fabricated, I could watch stuff like this all day.
I want to know why no one ever told me jobs like existed
I just recently started learning how to do this.
Me too:-)
Ok then.
@@hitman_s1 Aight now.
I've seen this several times and it never gets old. Simply amazing!!
Do you know what's that welding type heat treatment?
Thank you for this video. Magazine construction requires a lot of thought.
The Soviets had a special focus on feed lips of self loading firearms. They even machined feed lips into the TT-33. They knew that a magazine is the weak link of a self loading rifle.
Make it tough, make it durable.
I love seeing old ass machine tools still running and putting out good work. I used to run a lathe that was retrofitted for CNC, it was original run with the paper ribbons with holes punched in to program it. Despite its age it could hold half thou tolerances
One of the most strangely beautiful things I have seen. Men doing a job and doing it well. Producing a quality product from start to finish in a single factory. Knowing that there is honor in work, all work, no matter how hard or dirty or repetitive.
I think I'm going to watch it again.
Agree, but the thing is they produce something that has one single purpose, which is to carry bullets, which also have only one purpose, which is to destroy things.
All these man of great skill do, every dat when they go to work in this factory, is contribute to more and more destruction on the planet they live on. Destruction done by humans of course.
It's kinda sad to watch actually, because they can use their skills for so many other things that are much more useful and benificial to mankind and the planet as a whole.
It means it's basically also a waste of raw materials. The more I think about it, the more sad it gets....
@@sandervandenberg977 Sometimes you need to destroy to protect.Would you not kill a man that was about to rape/kill your wife?If you wouldn't i don't want to live in the same neighbourhood as you.Also i don't think you apply the same standarts to wildlife even though they do same things- hunt other beings for food,kill to protect the pack.Life eat's life That's the way thing's are.
@@sandervandenberg977 While I perfectly understand where you're going with this, the fact is that pacifism just doesn't work. Yes, guns and knifes kill people. But those Guns and knives at the end of the day are tools, and we can choose to use them to protect good/innocent people from the 'wolves'.
@@2312TOMAS Ofcourse I would kill or hurt someone who's about to hurt or kill, rape whatever one of nu familymembers. But you're missing the point here.
The point is: Why make something that is designed to hurt or kill other living (human)beings?
Why designing that in the first place?
Wanting to hurt others comes from fear. It's fear that we have to overcome. Of course we need to be able to defend ourselves against "fear", but eventually it's better to battle fear itself. Then you won't need these horrible weapons anymore.
@@Commanderhurtz1 It all depends on how you see or perceive yourself and humanity.
Pacifism is a very tough road, and requires saying the "right" things combined with the willingness to sacrifice and to stay NON-violent no matter what.
It is however (I think) the answer to all of your "problems".
There are many people though, that believe that humanity is inherently doomed to keep killing & hurting eachother, because that's in our nature, our genes or whatever. I don't think that's true. But if most people believe this, then THAT will become our common reality.
Such is the power of (human) belief.
So all I'm saying is:
Be very careful with what you believe (in).
Thank you Matra for a great video. It's great to see quality production with knowledgeable workers and traditional machinery.
Just bought 3 of these for $12.97 each. Considering the amount of manual labor put into building these they are a bargain plus they have a lifetime guarantee. A real quality product.
Rich McIntyre this is because bosniaks are basicaly the mexicans of europe, their wages are ridiculisly low
Over 20 years ago I bought nice heavy gauge 40 Rd mags for 10 bucks.
Rugged as hell.
@@freshcancer713 what are you talking about??
Wages in Bosnia are not significantly lower than surrounding countries. Whole Balkan has low wages, and Bosnia stands somewhere in the middle. You singling out Bosniaks makes me think that you have some personal problems with them...
@@armija bosniaks are well known in europe for being labourers more so than their neighbours
@@elmoantero99 erm no...
Very simple machines. We have been trying for years to build a decent ak47 in the US and these guys can do it in an old rundown factory.
Bogu hvala da jednom vidim naš program,s engleskim titlom,!! svaka čast onome ko je ovo snimio
Those mags look so legit and very durable.
Alot goes into making AK magazines. Also the most rugged and reliable magazines.
Get that poor guy at 3:40 a chair or lift that machine up! Watching him hunched over like that and knowing he's doing that every day is killing my back! lol.
Excellent video.
swansea007791 Holy cow! Awesome!
George's Masonry >> Maybe he picked up cigarette butts in the former USSR as his past job and that is him standing up straight, perhaps they actually lowered the machine for him.
я тоже об этом подумал, такую дылду ставить на такую работу не следовало, или правда на стульчике бы сидел. на долго его не хватит.
Or hire quazimoto
Either sink the man, or raise the machine. No need for him to bend over like that. Unless he just wants to. Which I don’t imagine he would.
Wow very nice. My aks are now watching this video.
Please show a drum ak and or .223/5.56 as well ! Thank you for posting the video and taking the time to do it !!! 06/16/19 Spokane WA !
WOW, I always wanted to see how these mags were made, very impressive, so these are blued, like the Yugo mags? These really aren't that much more expensive than a good surplus mag, I've seen them between $17.50 and $18.95.
When are the 20 round mags going to available, are they still going through testing?
These are made on Yugoslavia tooling. Croatian and Serbian mags are basically identical.
These are made on Yugoslavia tooling. Croatian and Serbian mags are basically identical.
Wow if that was done here in the USA those mags would cost $75 each!
flgliderpilot fuck us
flgliderpilot in balkan u cane buy magazine for 10€
at least your country has the decency to make guns
Георгий Дюрич were 10 euro I will 20 euro for new ones 100% will buy 20 of them
No bro we already have US companies making them.i 4get the price
The finish on all those mags on the table at the end already look like surplus.
I work in gun factory my self , i love CNC machining and love to watch videos like this , great video , just one thing i didn’t see anybody using safety glasses , bye!🇺🇸🇲🇽
because it's not the US? That means no OSHA.
What happened to Matra & the Gibbs AK magazine? The website does not even exist anymore. Did the company disolve or is there a current import ban from Bosnia?
motohead077 military contract demand is strong. Not exporting to US right now
@@comus3 OK, thx for update.. Do you know if the Croatian BHO mags currently being sold in the U.S., are comparable to these Gibbs mags? Some people say they may be made in the same factory.
now make some PSL mags and sell them for cheap pls
3:39 someone get that man a chair.
Svaka cast momci...dali bi se mogla posjetiti fabrika?
Awesome!
That bend in the mag adds so many stages and pieces to the production. Complicated compared to a FNFAL M14 which from memory is 1 piece of sheet I think not sure been too long
Anybody notice that they don't make the springs.
Gloves boys, were are your gloves? Metal sheet is very sharp... In Serbia similar situation in guns factory, so we have accidents.
Can the one guy bent ver fishing out catches get a stool or something? Made my back and neck hurt just watching.
underground water drilling matchine
Perhaps unrelated to the Matra I know, the one that makes radars, missiles and answering machines. But that was interesting to watch, and rassuring that there are still people who manufacture products like that.
Bravo momci, jedva čekam da dođu vamo u SAD
Good work fellas , can't wait for them to arrive in the USA
Proud Bosnian American
Pozdrav, Bošnjak brat! Thank you Serbs and Bosniaks for all the great artillery you guys make!
I bought six of these. IMO, these are the best new production steel mags out there. Beautiful fit and finish.
+civiliansheepdog3842 Where did you buy them?
Old Western Scrounger $12 each
That was an awesome video. I always find it amazing the amount of thought and work that goes into even the most mundane items. Bravo guys.
I got four of their magazines, excellent quality.
How many steps in process from coiled steel to finished product? How many man hours on average per magazine?
Thumbs up for the vid!
Very interesting video. Heard nothing but great stuff about these magazines. Wish they made them in 40 round capacity....
+Joey P they do make 40s
Music can make anything beautiful. Also AK can make anything beautiful too
Simply a great video.... just know what they are making
These mags are ten times better than any plastic crap they could make today.
1 word. Ergonomics! LOL. Stop making your workers hunch over all day. give them chairs or raise the machines so they don't get back injuries over time.
Rob Tucker watch their follow up video Chairs
ma to samo za snimanje
Over in Europe there is no knowledge of ergonomics,
That's why 90% of Americans are fat and lazy
This is soviet Russia machine doesn't come to you. You come to machine
I'll take ten.
Amazing, are you all gonna produce more videos of other gun parts?
Cool!
What is the music? Please!
Nice press break
Very cool video!!! Thank you posting this.
Wow very cool, a lot of work goes into producing these magazines
I like the music. I don't know why but its weirdly calming. Anyone know what it is?
the freedom to work well in their own shop
I purchased a few of the Gibbs-Matra mags and the quality control was non-existent. A large percentage of people couldn't get the mags to lock up in their rifles (including Wasrs, Saigas and npaps). Reaching out to Gibbs Rifle for warranty replacement and they said it was normal for new mags not to fit and they just needed to be filed.
I've never had a new or surplus mag need filing to fit any of my rifles.
Very well made video thanks for taking the time to make and share. Interesting process.
Reminds me of the opening sequence to the Nicholas Cage movie "Lord of War".
That's a whole lot of parts, labor and processes and in Hollywood films guys just shoot up and chuck the empty mags like empty matchboxes.
Part two should've been the title credit scene of "Lord of War".
Nice video btw..👍🏽👍🏽
I recognized every part, every spot weld...and even what looks like factory “pre-weathering” with the paint!
‘Tis a beautiful thing! I’ll take 50, please!
I would like to order a 25 shot mag for my Remington Model 8 in .35.
All I want is steel 5.45x39 magazines, because I could only get my hands on 4 of them... :-(
Anyone watching this at 2020?
Built to last a lifetime.
nice to see cold forge and hot forge being used on key stress point such as the front and back lugs.
Someone should add an explanation of all the processes involved and the reason for them using the subtitles. Seeing it is one thing, but understanding it is another thing entirely.
Yea...wish they'd do a run of Valmet 76 magazines in 223 Remington (5.56mm Nato)
Awesome video Broskies......
That's the one that will make the bolt-hold open?
How to get this job
Sweet vid!! All my Gibbs Matra mags run fine in the M92. I'll be buying more soon
*sighs with a smile*
Damn! Ill never complain about paying $8 for a new mag again..even if its korean..
Awesome off-center spot-welding electrodes!
(I’m not crazy foe envisioning this kind of setup, then!)
Amazing! Didn't knew these curvy sticks can be that beautiful, and the music very nice too!
I would be very happy to see AK101/ Beryl pattern magazines come from you guys. Awesome video by the way!
Nice camera work. Please let us know any special equipment you used. Looks Great.
Thing of metallic beauty.
дорогой и сложный в производстве получается магазин. Небольшими партиями. Куда и зачем это ?
Outstanding! just ordered a stack of these and can't wait to run'em.
Now you show me an American magazine done with such perfection ! Am American both this is beautifully done.
Awesome music!
Never been a huge fan of the AK (only own one 47 and one 74), but I know who's magazines I'll be buying for sure.
Great video..
Absolutely fascinating. Always wanted to know how they are fabricated. Great video👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you...some will think this is a thing of death...maybe ..but its also an thing of freedom..
Correction to the title:
Building the toughest rifle magazine ever, for the toughest rifle ever!
If they did this in the USA, it will be one operator and one big ass computerize machine. One large roll of metal sheet on one end and at the other end a completed 30 round magazine costing $75.
I cut my 30 round mags down, and made 20 rounders out of them, for ease of carry and use.
Innovation to create a magazine for one of the worlds most formidable weapons. AWESOME.
One of these came with my m92 pap
nice clean factory.
was hoping for the bakolight ones
Really cool... What is the music?
thats Serbija, making of Magazin from M70 with open Bold. Nice
bosna i hercegovina ja mislim za metke
@@antoniovojvodic8374 sigurno je da je nase a ne tude. Niko nije izrasdivao kao Jugo sto je proizvodila nekada. Steta za tu zemlju
Germany : we've robots in every factory.
Russia : Never heard of em...
I dont see where the springs are made or inserted into the magazines?
I got polymer ak mags im gonna get some steel mags now
Next is to get the decoilers in and setup the presses for auto runs most of you dies look like they are built for auto feed. Good work. How would you like the machine making 12,000 to 20,000 parts in 8 hours.
excellent product video!!
Wow what a Job
I just ordered ten of these from AIM Surplus. At just over ten bucks for a well built steel BHO magazine, this may be the best value out there.
Not the same magazines as the ones in blue bags. We don't know where they came from but they are not Matra mags so says the importer.
Jarrod Knudson those are Croatian made mags.
Tapco I dont know about, but my new pmags work just fine
That machine gun will make a man rich beyond his wildest dreams.
Great video. Thanks.
I would love to try out 2 of those mags my ak is a picky feeder
wow that is labour intensive!
Fantástico show
This is apocalypse magazine, made of stamp steel.
Who sells your mags specifically? They look like the old bold hold open type from the former Yugoslavian states.
Would love to know the name of the music.
Would love to see a video on how they mass produce the AK's.