Stop Comparing Guts & Blackpowder/Blood And Iron.
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- today i give a video on why people need to STOP comparing guts and blackpowder and blood and iron. I also explain why the comparisons are invalid and stupid, and why they MUST BE STOPPED. ENJOY!!!
Music Credits At The End Of The Video
Blood and Iron is an actual freaking game, unlike so many Napoleonic Wars games that center around roleplay rather than an actual game. I dislike roleplay games, Blood and Iron is more fun every time than Marque of War, Napoleonic Wars and other LARP games.
Anyway, I used to see direct comparisons between B&I and my game in the early days of G&B's development. The game did take Coder's uniforms and I copied Hougoumont's exact layout because I was originally the only person working on the game. If G&B didn't have the involvement of my other developers and over like 20 contributors, I think the game would be worse in almost every way compared the Blood and Iron, because the game has had years of updates, and polish from Coder. I admire CoderQwerty because the game has just so much in it, and I couldn't imagine painstakingly researching and making uniforms all by myself for years.
I remember the early early stages of g&b, giving it the benefit of the doubt tho and not too harsh on it as since the game was so brand new and still fresh, there was going to be lots of improvements in the road ahead, which was true! Also thanks for commenting on the vid and keep up the good work on g&b 💪
I agree with you without the nw part, but its ok we all have diferent opinions
in my opinion the reason why blood and iron is so good is that noone takes the game seriously, leading to fun shenanigans
Hey Fez! I have a question regarding the player stats.
How far back did it go when it was first added? I noticed a lot of the data seemed to be off. Like the game time, kills/deaths, and waves survived. (I survived to wave 47 originally, and have never made it past wave 35 due to endless mode never being picked since the stat update.)
If you could get back to me on this that would be great! Love the game by the way! (Even if you have seen me talk badly about it in baic, there are a few things I dislike. However, I can say that for every game.)
The halloween update is fire
Blood and iron is a PVP game and while guts and blackpowder is a survival game, there is straight up nothing to compare...
Exactly!!
There is still things to compare, Zerm even gave some, but people still shouldn`t compare them.
In my honest opinion, I consider B&I graphics absolutely charming. It has that nostalgic feel that you will only find in games older than 2016.
@@jononpaper i LOVE the graphics
Same
Same
Pet sim 99: 👀
Blood and iron is the pvp napoleonic game and guts and blackpowder is the pve napoleonic game, BOOM debate ended
Edit:two people are fighting oh no
one is good, one sucks
@@bootlegthemagicianboth are good in their own way mate
@@ryleeculla5570 ikr
@@ryleeculla5570 one is good, one sucks. guts and blackpowder is heavily overrated.
@@bootlegthemagician bro it Dosnt really matter which is better both are the same but G&B puts Napoleonic wars throws some zombies and writes lore about it
i don't think a lot of people would be very happy if coderqwerty changed out the current graphics into more modern graphics, one of the main reasons people like blood and iron is that it has graphics that look like it's straight out of 2015
It looks fine how it is
@@zermingtonLess is more, and that goes for blood & iron
Yeah it’s an iconic style
Yeah I like it's graphics but maybe better animations could be good
That's why I respect the B&I vs. L&C communities beef because it makes sense.
Blood and Iron has more maps, more regiments, more uniforms.
@@Hansalicious it's also been around for over a decade, the the other hasn't been around for a year
@@Hansalicious Some people prefer the "new look", graphics and different game mechanics of L&C than the quantity of things that B&I has. I like both games anyways.
@@Pauligon606 same lol, they're hella better than the 🐕 💩 on the popular page
@@obsidianmidnight3019 I also always preferred small games since I grew up rather than whatever is in the front page nowadays.
I was a B&I player, then played G&B as well. I like both games. To be fair, G&B is better in terms of player count, animations, map design, etc. I like B&I because of it's simplicity and how easy it is to play considering some of the newer games can be a bit overwhelming to some people
Fair points!
I also discovered blood and iron first.
Its annoying when people in B&I servers just spam "GUTS AND BLACKPOWDER BETTER"
1. Its something called opinion
2. I think guts and blackpowder dev and B&I dev are good friends.
Yeah...
Fez in his comment even states that he admires Coder + His model can even be seen in Kaub
@@RedditzGGWhere is Coder's model
@@Simpfok In a tower near the church the players spawn in
game devs and players are like manga/anime fan and authors.The 2 author are friend and 2 game devs are friend but the 2 fandom are on war
Yea man its sad, why cant we all come together
A ww1 game with blood and iron’s gun system would intrigue me, although I’m not sure if anyone would create it.
So true
Wizzbang is sort of like that
Viethin and murnau, though sadly nobody ever uses those gun systems
Im making one, lmao. It will have a 2018 vibe to it and will use its own gun system. Think of it like Battlefield 1 but Blood & Iron gameplay and classes
There was a ww1 game like that iirc, they had mustard gas and gas masks, but i cant remember its name for some reason
This is all I have said! They are COMPLETELY different in almost every way. Also, saying Blood & Iron gets repetitive is actually insane. I've played Blood & Iron near non-stop for 7 years. That game has SO much potential. G&B is also a VERY FUN game, I started playing it when it literally first went public and still play it. However, I do find myself taking long breaks from it due to it being a PvE game. I respect CoderQwerty for all that he's done with B&I, and I also respect all of the devs working on G&B for making the game the way is today.
The only issue I have with G&B is that a lot of the cosmetic packs are pretty expensive. However, they do need to pay the devs so I see why that is so. I'm glad someone finally made a video on this! (I especially like that my good friend Zerm was the one to do so!)
I love the way both games look and play, both are relics of their time. G&B looks amazing and has a very unique premise, and B&I is like a time machine which shows you what Roblox looked like in 2016-17, which, at least in terms of quality, doesn’t exist anywhere else on Roblox.
Yea, both are great in their own ways
B&I and G&B is my favorite I don't differentiate, i play for fun
W response
Blood and iron: basically mount and blade napoleonic wars for poor people. Guts and blackpowder: napoleonic wars but with zombies
In guts and blackpowder, you need good teamwork to win an objective, or you get absolute donkeys for teammates, mobile players, people that alert the horde before preparations, and people that watch you get eaten. In blood and iron, you get rambos, sappers making *questionable* symbols with dirt, the uncommon random fly hacker that has a fully automatic musket minigun, random dude shouting the most vile stuff in chat 💀, and the runners/hiders. Both games have their upsides and downsides, but i still like to play both cause they bring me a great amount of joy.
Both games r great !
I don’t think Ive really come across that many exploiters in blood and iron
“Relic from 2017” definitely did not play during 2017.
The same endless maps in guts and black powder are in blood and iron but just no zombies.
The maps are also built completely different in both games. It also makes sense why there would be the same maps, as the maps you are talking about, (most likely Hougoumont and La Haye Sainte), were both key areas during the battle of Waterloo. It makes sense why these maps would be in two Napoleonic war games.
Ive been playing blood and irom for 8 years now and i tried guts and blackpowder. Its honestly surprising that gnb has so many more conqurrent players compared to BAI. Maybe its nostalgia, but I dont see any reason thay gnb should have more players, bai is funner and more exciting to play...
Tbh I could see why ppl would compare blood and iron with Lexington and concord bc they both are literally the same game but why the actual heck would ppl compare b&i to g&b I have nothing against those games I find them good (including Lexington and concord)and idk why ppl would compare these games it’s honestly annoying but idrc abt that I’m just glad I have good games like them to play
fr, it gets annoying bc they put down each game or get incredibly hostile, like its not that deep
@@zermington Ik that’s what I’m saying ppl do not have to compare those games there is absolutely no point in doing that
@@zermington and there’s a big difference between blood and iron and guts and blackpowder bc guts and blackpowder is a zombie game and you kill zombies and not humans well technically but in blood and iron your fighting humans and not zombies so idk why ppl would compare
@@zermington(btw it wasn’t created in 2015 it was created in 2009 well at least that’s what I saw) and also guts and blackpowder has more graphics and B&I doesn’t rlly so idk why ppl would compare them💀🙏
hi again Zermington Back with another Good video :3
Yooo barry, thanks for stopping by!
Yes,just play for fun,nth to argue
1:34 I honestly agree, and do the exact same thing. Blood and Iron would be a lot better if it had a complete revamp, but I do understand how B&I was made a long time ago and G&B is made in modern day with a lot of better ways to make Roblox games, or games in general, AND has a whole team working on it. However, I still like G&B a lot better than B&I and barely ever play B&I. It defilently needs a revamp, or something. People should stop comparing them, BUT I still think G&B is a lot better, and I play it a lot more.
Edit: who the hell is saying "G&B is too polished, and smooth", whos even saying that for ANY game at all?
i would really like a new gamemode in B&I it would make the game even better
I mean some people aren’t wrong the games style hasn’t changed much and it does look like something from 2017 but it’s fun nonetheless
B&I is fun. You play for fun. Not grind. 2:01 that’s why there are no badges. The game is impressive for its time and is iconic.you have 1 life so you have to use it good. G&b is also good. But people make the mistake of comparing a 9 year old game to one that’s 2 years. One thing that need fixing in b&i is to stop like 7 year olds from playing, and ruining chat.
Well coder made it with imperial and peakytom for the muskets and I think with his brother aswell
Other people have contributed, but coder has done 90% of the work alone.
B&I is fun. You play for fun. Not grind. 2:01 that’s why there are no badges. The game is impressive for its time and is iconic.you have 1 life so you have to use it good. G&b is also good. But people make the mistake of comparing a 9 year old game to one that’s 2 years.
B&I - PvP with real people based on real life events
G&B - PvE with fucking zombies and lore CLOSELY based on real life events
Literally huge differences
roblox people when they enter inside a history museum and they suddenly see portraits from the napoleonic warfare time period (MUST BE GUTS AND BLACKPOWDER OMG!!!!!!)
wut happen if teacher historian see g&b kids are doin taht
@@NOAH_789s he threatens them with commiting suicide
guts and blackpowder is a zombie game that happens to be set in the napoleonic wars, much more fast paced and melee focused. the concept of a zombie game is much more broad than the niche napoleonic pvp game that blood and iron is, and thats why guts and blackpowder has more players in my opinion. anyone who has played a pve zombie game and enjoyed it will probably stumble across guts and blackpowder and enjoy it too. cant say the same for a game like blood and iron, even pvp with similar weapons feels much different than pve against zombies, since you dont have to worry about ranged
there is a huge difference between blood and iron and guts & black powder in one they chop people and in the other undead
And there is no point in comparing their quality one was created by one person in 2015 and the other by a group of people in early 2022
Let's go. He saw my comment on that video 😂
But yes, I do agree with him about people comparing these two game, originally, I simply made the comment to just give my thoughts on the video, but people just got mad about my comment, and typed out hate comments, but tbh, I don't really care if you hate the comment, it's just funny what yall typed out in the comment section of mine
Honestly I like blood and iron like how I like prison life and survive the killers in Area 51.Simply the old graphics and buggy gameplay make it fun really there for the nostalgic feeling of the old games…
I sometimes confuse g&b for blood and gutspowder while playing with friends in a call
@@Ave_worker blood and gutspowder
@@zermingtonhemoglobin and chitterlings loose atomic particles
@@Ave_worker I'd play that game
Ye
Theyre really comparing a game about Napoleonic wars,
And comparing it to a game about zombies that HAS NOTHING to do about Napoleonic wars.
It's Napoleonic wars in alternative universe.
@@Hansalicious sure
Dawg?!
GB is set in the Napoleonic wars....
What do you mean it has nothing to do with the Napoleonic wars
@@nullFahrenheit yeah its set on Napoleonic Era, but theres no wars occurred because of the outbreak
@@Connlic
Canonically the war was still going until Leipzig/ the battle of Nations.
Meaning for half of the maps
The war was still happening.
honestly if yall say that blood & iron isnt polished play lexington & concord. I love all napoleonic war games.
Frr they all fire
Lexington and concord has less maps though. Also Lexington and concord lacks artillery and cavalry.
@@Cutepanda1943 Lexington and concord has artillery though...
@@jellyboi8032 That was an accident
Blood and iron is the tf2 of roblox and I love it dearly
BLoOd ANd IrOn iS bETtEr!
GUts aNd bLaCkpOwdEr iS bEtTer!
Honestly man
B&I and G&B dev: 😀
The communities: 💀
@@Setsuzation so true 😭
I cant believe blood and iron stole from guts and Blackpowder
We got a funny guy here😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤❤😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😮😮😮😂😂😂😂
Like someone who understands the situation b&i is a pvp game and has nothing to do with g&b we know that g&b is like a better game but b&i is different that it’s a small game with 1 developer g&b is a team you can see it on both of the games
G&b is better looking game sorry my bad
the point of blood and iron in my opinion is that you get surrounded by people equally stupid as me and you and you get to watch how everyone's stupidity lead to something funny
I’ve played both blood and Iron and Guts and Blackpowder for hundreds of hours each. Blood and iron is more fun in my opinion, the use of simplicity and the diverse maps makes it a very fun experience. Guts and Blackpowder is great graphically and the idea of a zombie outbreak in the napoleonic wars is interesting and unique.
However both games have it flaws. Blood and iron has bugs and its players can be weird and edgy. Guts and Blackpowder has very boring maps and the gameplay gets incredibly repetitive. Both games have ups and downs but ultimately it’s about what you would rather fight, zombies or other players?
they have literally NOTHING in common, not the same game at all
Exactly!
Napoleonic wars AND death cries
one has more of a nostalgic look to it and one has more of a modern look to it
end of the debate.
Juan approves.
W juan
Yeah, Those are have differences.
Indeed they do!
Yeah shi in one video of lolsku in the chat someone said that bi is gb but without zombies 💀💀💀
A few differences.
both games are good in thier own ways. even though i like g&b more. (thats because i suck againt actual players) b&i is a great game too
Its always nice seeing people love both games
*Is literally like COD multiplayer vs COD zombies lmao*
And on top of that is like comparing cod waw multiplayer to cod cold war zombies.
I mean blood and iron is a pvp napoleonic game about fighting soldiers, part of the old roblox era, casual fun.
Guts and bp is a pve napoleonic game about fighting zombies, part of the new roblox era, casual fun unless you get into the community
Both are a different take on the theme and setting with different focus too.
Meanwhile, Lexington and Concord being compared to B&I:
Lexington and fartcord
yes and hmm I need medical
fax
b&i is better for skill and replay ability while g&b is better for people who love survival games with objectives, there really is no comparison between the two as they arent good for all people but in my opinion b&i is better because of the ability to improve gameplay skills slowly while g&b is just the same strategy to get more badges and weapons but you cant really get an infinite amount of skill
Make a video about "stop comments about g&b and b&l in The napolenic War video"
He nead to add consols suport on playstation and xbox to blood & Iron🗿
finally someone gets it..
u alrdy know..
I Have Respect About B&I G&B And I&C
my english i forgot
one has horse and funny one has zombie they are for different audiences that may overlap
i like them both
@@zombee77777 W
I love making soup stands in blood and iron
INSTEAD COMPARE THEM TO MOUNT AND BLADE NAPOLEONIC WARS
Just play Lexington & Concord smh 🥱😮💨😤😤😤
The ultimate solutioj
G&B and B&I are polar opposed to the setting. heres a list
- gb is a zombie game, bi is a pvp game
- bi has bigger maps, gb has smaller, much linear maps
- gb relies heavily on melee, bi is more focused to long range combat
- you can still walk while reloading in gb, you cant in bi (it makes since because realistically its harder to reload walking)
- bi has ridable horses, gb has no horses you can ride
- gb relies on problem solving (at least for objectives), bi relies on skill (shooting)
- and finally, the atmosphere of both games are completely different.
“Bi has ridable horses, bi has no horses you can ride”
I recommend fixing that before more people are confused
@@Anarchiya didn’t realize that thanks
@@Uncle228 Your welcome! :)
man, why are players comparing B&I (the godfather of the napoleonic genre) to the G&B (the b&i crookman). it's like you are isnulting your commander (g&b) to his grandfater (b&i).
Mount and blade came first tbf
The reason of obvious choice.
They are the same thing but GnB is zombies and BaI is man v man
Guts and Iron
Blood and iron for life
Tbh both games are ok as long as they dont get removed by Roblox
Literally everything about ur statement was okay until the end, when ur older and can speak about politics then be free to say ur statement but ur too young to be saying ts bro 🤦
I was saying that both games are fun but I was worried that it might be removed or got changed lets hope that it wont happen
Guts and blackpowder also has PVP
People comparing games of 2 different genres
Exactly, both are napoleonic but they each have their own playstyle, pve against pfp and ppl still compare them or say 1 is better 🤦
imo, l&c is closer to g&B
More like l&c is closer to b&i
L&C is B&I and G&B's kid lol
@@zermington the combat feels more like guts and blackpowder to me than blood and iron
@@zermington i think its mostly the aiming while moving and it actually telling you what direction ur weapon is swinging
@zermington Nah, L&C definitely is more like G&B. Only similarity between. B&I and L&C that is huge is that it's PvE with roughly the same weaponry. L&C feels more like G&B, looks more like G&B, and the devs act more like G&B devs.
What About Lexington and Concord?
Its revolutionary war not napoleonic war
Bro, the reality is that blood & iron can no longer hold a candle to g&b That's the end of the debate,
Nope what i said is right cause im always rigut
@@zermington Do you think you're right? 💀💀
@@the-guest-Zzzsomeone who has over 120+ hours on Guts and Blackpowder, I tried Blood and Iron, I think it's a good game, but it isn't my cup of tea.
@@edwardromans4049 Well at least you said Blood Iron is not a bad game, and you're right bro
they're entirely different games besides from the setting. G&B is an alternate history PvE game, while B&I is a PvP "reenactment" game. There is nothing to compare in terms of gameplay.
The only fair comparison is that blood and iron will always be a classic that remains in our hearts, while guts and black powder is a new game that’s well made but doesn’t have the same nostalgic quality
Bro ur adding more to the comparisons 🤦
@@zermington I literally said the exact same thing as another comment which you hearted in different words
Guts and blackpowder took sum maps from blood and iron
no?
@@wityfnfyt yes
When a napoleon game takes the same battles that happened in real life 😱
2008 not 2015
@@antonietaespinoza260 ive said this like 10 times but the games baseplate was 2009, the game itself was made 2015
No
Not gonna lie, chad response...
First comment
guts and blackpowder is sorta similar to left 4 dead
CHANGE MY MIND
Ngl u kind of cooking with that one
@thatperson_2 the only difference between the two is that one is modern and one is 19th century, sure there might not be alot of special infected in G&B but all of them are similar to other special infected in L4D
Runner is hunter, jockey, charger and witch all in one.
Bomber is deadly boomer
Igniter is spitter but instead of battery acid its fire
Zapper is tank
L4D is fast pace and so is G&B.
stop it i play both game they both best game like it so dumb to compare it set time same in napoleonic war g&b is pve game b&i is pvp LIERATRLLY LIKE STOP IT DIFFERENT PVE AND PVP
Real talk, ur cooking
To be honest blood and iron is a good PvP game but guts and blackpowder has good graphics and more nations like Texas,Residents of Kentucky,Denmark,America,and Sweden which are not in Blood and Iron but the bots in the game are smarter than the common blood and iron mobile player BUT STILL BLOOD AND IRON IS STILL BETTER BECAUSE YOU CAN ACTUALLY RIDE HORSES
Residents of Kentucky is modern regiment
@@Catacombes_DemLeDancha_Fermena Ik
guts and blackpowder fans when i show them an actual good game:
meh both are good.
L take
@@zermington g&b is the most over-saturated zombie game on the roblox market right now.
@thatperson_2 Fair literally everyone says : "We gettin out of (insert G&B map) with this one🗣🗣" on the comments of those classical music videos that appeared in the game
boo
Cry
Blood and iron better 😎😎😎
G&BP is way better quality than B&I. Why would anyone play blood & iron when they can play G&BP which is way more polished??????
hmm, this is gonna spark a arguement good sir.
Polishing ≠ better
Ur ragebaiting now tryna get reactions... admire both
Go spin your head 360°
Ofc idiot, if b&i came in 2009
No
no
@@jefftheislandboylover chad response