Probably just wanted to kill someone and blame it as a freak accident.or natural causes. You should know better than most your field attracts some serious psychos.
@@liorap5636 Guarantee it wasn't an accident. Everything you touch is very clearly labeled. Probably wanted to get away with legal redrum. Med field attracts some serious wackos.
Vinay is still leaving out many things. 1. mmr v rate in Samoa has been dropping since 2013 (90%) to 70% in 2017 to 30% in 2018. The decline happened even before the 2 deaths in children, but yes the 2 dx incident & almost a year of v suspension by their govt contributed the most to their v hesitancy. 2. RFKjr was invited for the 57th Independence of Samoa - that was his primary reason. he wasn't there primarily to give talks about his opinion on V - that happened bc the opportunity came. 3. Samoa's neighbors, Tong & Fiji, also had outbreak despite high mmr v rate (so the discussion of whether this particular mmr v prevented spread or not must be had. it is supposed to prevent spread, but it did not. was it design for different strain? nevertheless, you cannot blame RFKjr for Samoa outbreak when the same outbreak happened in other neighbor islands where he was never there) 4. tonga & fiji govt didn't suspend the V, therefore there was no decline in V rate (outbreak still occurred). samoa govt did suspend it - V rate declined (outbreak still occurred). 5. in sept 2019, a couple cases were found. on oct 1, 2019- unicef sends mmr V along with vitamin A (WHO lists VitA as essential to mitigate measles symptoms. it's why Unicef sent vitA along with V, but there are reports saying vitA was not administered as much). 3 weeks after they sent the mmr V, the outbreak surge occurred: oct 18, 2019 - Samoa / oct 24, 2019 - Tonga / Nov 7, 2019 - Fiji . and importantly: 6. Ralph Baric wrote a paper about measles-scv2 chimera. 7. Samoa (& its region) had 2019 measles outbreak (when wuhan china supposedly had GoF "leaks"), and Samoa's first scv2 cvd wave was in Dec 2020. What's interesting is that they had very low death rate from cvd. So, was it the mmr v that had non-specific benefit against other virus like scv2? or the natural immunity after recovering from 2019 measles outbreak had benefit against cvd?
He says the situation there was multi factorial. Which it was. But then leaves out RFK. Which was one of the factors. One of many. But of course he has to protect RFK. He has to tow the GOP line. It’s obvious at this point. That he even pretends to be anything but a lapdog of the republicans is laughable.
@@nomnomyam9379 Poor metabolic health and low levels of vitamin D3 is what lead to people dying from CVD. If you eat well with plenty animal protein and fat, exercise and receive adequate sun exposure there is no chance of dying from CVD.
@@michaelwilkens6865 he is aggressively anti vaccine and promotes the ideology. He influences the movement and the people that read up on it because he is a big name in the space.
@danielcrummett7293 - As they should? What evidence do you have to back up what would discredit him? If it weren't for RFK Jr the Hudson River would still be a toxic cesspool.
@@denofpigs2575 Yeah good point, these pharmaceutical companies have already paid billions of dollars in criminal damages for giving out products of which they knew were causing cancer.
This. The reason to mistrust public health officials is because they are, in fact, government officials. We all have endless reasons to mistrust government officials.
Want to address vaccine hesitancy? Here’s an idea- DO THE VAXXED VS UNVAXXED long term study to compare objective health outcomes. Very simple but they won’t do it 🤷🏼♀️
💯. A doctor did do this at his own office and lost his medical license over it. The results showed the unjabbed had nearly 0 percent diseases. Dr. Paul Thomas you can look it up. He did a whole presentation of the results.
They know the outcome of that study already and have no interest in doing it. If they knew they'd get the data they wanted, they'd have already funded the study and publicly said so just to boost confidence.
I didn't get any covid jabs, not symptoms, just not permitted to be anywhere near others. Oooooooooh, I might catch something from all those jabbed people who still got covid🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 I was ostracised for not protecting the community. Yeh, well, that lie came unstuck. You are wonderful and thoroughly enjoy your science based facts. Cheers Rosemary Western Australia 74yrs
@@roses9339 the messaging about the jabs was all wrong e.g. saying you're fully protected and may have influenced behaviours in the wrong direction. Tracking the hospitalisations, far and away, your chances of going to hospital with worse outcomes was for unvaccinated.
If they don't discredit RFK Jr, they know they will be exposed for their corrupt business and unethical scienctific practices. What they fear most is randomized double blind studies without being allowed to contaminate the control groups to destroy the five year control groups results. No five year control group means no data to compare for long term safety.
Got to remove that 1986 Liability Protection act. Plain and simple. Come with whatever studies you want but as long as They cant be held liable for danger & harm caused I want no part in it !
i was not a sceptic until my son got injured 15 years ago. i was so not a sceptic that they gave him polio, dtap and mmr on the same day. in the first 4 hours he developed facial asimetry, in the next 48h he lost words, muscle tone and stopped looking at me and recognizing me. at 3 he was running, screaming and breaking things 22h a day and slept only 2. food was reduced to hot dogs, pizza and particular soup. i could not get any answers from medical staff so i took matter into my hands... i had motivation like never in my life, so i took medical booka, courses, listened to lectures, mapped out every single symphtom he had and targeted those sympthoms. now he is 16 comunicates in 2 languages functionaly, is self reliant. this is my opinion now: I read in a scientific article some time ago that human DNA transfers environmental memory for 14 generations. Interestingly, in Serbia, we have a family tree organized for 16 generations, which aligns closely with what I read. The oldest in our lineage are known as White Eagle (male) and White Bee (female), so my son and I would have different White Eagle and White Bee ancestors. I believe that over the last 200 years, rapid changes in our lifestyle have been detrimental to our health. We no longer eat the same food or store it in the same way. We are exposed to artificial lights and sounds, and our sleep patterns have changed. Additionally, the products we use on our bodies, including fabrics, have drastically evolved. While I believe the human body can withstand and adapt to some changes over 14 or 16 generations, I don't think our DNA is designed to endure so many changes in just a few generations. Furthermore, the substances we inject into infants add to this burden. Together, these factors contribute to the rise of many "mysterious" conditions. I have to add to this the case of Hannah Poling. Hannah was born in 2004 and because her parents are in the medical field ( her father is a neurologist John Poling) she was in a study of healthy children up until she got MMR and regressed into autism. Her case was proven in court but sealed because she was a minor ( even tho it is a case of public concern). That is when they found mitochondrial dysfunction as a predisposition to regressive autism after shots as well as that over 36% of the population born has mitochondrial dysfunction. I believe we are poisoning our bodies for the last 200 years by attacking mitochondria. P.S. I believe that autism is a cluster of different mechanisms of damage and that is where DNA kicks in and why they all seem to have the same but totally different symptoms. And that children do not have those symptoms because they have autism but rather they have autism because of those symptoms The Chronological Flow and Branching of Autism Causes Autism, as a complex neurological disorder, stems from the interplay of genetic, epigenetic, and environmental factors. Its causal chain can be traced from fundamental DNA damage and epigenetic modifications, through metabolic disruptions, to specific mechanisms such as mitochondrial dysfunction, ischemia, blood-brain barrier (BBB) permeability, and, ultimately, neurological imbalances. Each of these points branches out and impacts subsequent processes, making the development of autism cumulative and causally interlinked. 1. Starting Point: DNA Damage and Epigenetic Mechanisms Epigenetic processes, such as DNA methylation and histone modification, allow the body to adapt to environmental changes without altering the core genetic structure. However, DNA damage caused by toxins, inflammation, or nutrient deficiencies disrupts this delicate regulation. Cause: Industrialization and increased exposure to heavy metals, pesticides, and microplastics. Consequence: Improper DNA methylation hampers the expression of genes crucial for neurological development. Further Branching: Damaged DNA transitions into mitochondrial dysfunction, heightening the organism’s sensitivity to metabolic stress. 2. Impaired DNA Methylation and Folate Cycle Disruption DNA methylation relies on the availability of folate, vitamin B12, and other essential substances. When these nutrient reserves are depleted, or the methylation process is disrupted: Cause: Poor nutrition, genetic mutations like MTHFR, and chemical imbalances. Consequence: Gene expression dysfunction impacts the immune system and nervous system development. Further Branching: Methylation imbalances lead to mitochondrial dysfunction, increased oxidative stress, and metabolic issues. 3. Mitochondrial Dysfunction: The Core of Metabolic Issues Mitochondria are vital for energy production and cellular detoxification. When they malfunction: Cause: Inherited mutations, toxin exposure, and oxidative stress. Consequence: Energy deficiency impairs neuronal function and causes neuroinflammation. Further Branching: Mitochondrial dysfunction triggers localized ischemic processes and compromises the blood-brain barrier. 4. Ischemia and Inflammatory Responses Ischemia - reduced blood flow to brain regions - increases the risk of neuronal damage. Concurrently, inflammation exacerbates damage to brain cells and structures. Cause: Mitochondrial dysfunction and impaired circulation. Consequence: Chronic inflammatory responses compromise the structural integrity of the blood-brain barrier (BBB). Further Branching: A leaky BBB allows toxins and immune cells to infiltrate the brain. 5. Blood-Brain Barrier (BBB) Permeability The BBB acts as a protective layer, preventing harmful substances from entering the brain. When its function is disrupted: Cause: Inflammation, oxidative stress, and toxic influences. Consequence: Toxins, microglia, and immune markers enter the brain, exacerbating neuroinflammation. Further Branching: Toxin and metal ion infiltration initiates calcium accumulation and synaptic dysfunction. 6. Calcium Accumulation and Synaptic Dysfunction Excessive calcium buildup in neurons disrupts synaptic function, directly affecting neuronal plasticity and signaling. Cause: Dysregulation of calcium channels due to oxidative stress and ischemia. Consequence: Synaptic dysfunction hinders communication between brain regions, contributing to autistic symptoms. Further Branching: Prolonged synaptic dysfunction leads to lasting neurological damage. 7. Final Outcome: Neurological and Cognitive Symptoms All previous branches, from DNA damage to synaptic dysfunction, culminate in the manifestation of autistic symptoms: Challenges in social communication. Stereotyped behaviors and sensory hypersensitivity. Cognitive imbalances and reduced flexibility in thinking. These manifestations are not the result of a single cause but a complex web of interconnected biological and environmental factors. Conclusion The development of autism can be understood as the result of a cause-and-effect chain, beginning with DNA damage and epigenetic processes, through methylation and mitochondrial dysfunction, and culminating in neurological symptoms. Each point in this chain branches into intricate mechanisms, each contributing to the final picture. Understanding these interdependencies paves the way for precise diagnostics, prevention, and treatment of autism, with a particular emphasis on an individualized approach to care. We have exchanged natural cause for dna damages.... we saved a lot but destroyed humanity
Thank you for sharing your deep understanding. We were lucky to have come across information back in the late 90's that steered us away from vaccinating our children. Are you aware of redox signalling molecules. I can provide you more information if you are interested.
This explains so much more than autism. It is about the increased incidence of dementias, MS, ALS, Parkinson’s, and numerous other neurological disorders including depression and psychological disorders. There’s so much to consider here. Thank you.
@@juliawestley6950 thank you. Yes I am familiar with redox. What I wrote here is a kind of a summary. I am trying to put up everything that I have found but it is very hard due to all the censoring. Thank you for taking your time to read my comment. HAPPY NEW YEAR!! I hope we will get answers
@ children with low levels of vitamin a could go blind during a measles infection but that’s excessively rare. Between 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 300,000 cases of measles will result in blindness. The more malnourished an area is, the more frequent (1 in 10,000), the more nourished the area (1 in 300,000), the less often someone will get blindness from measles. Before the vaccine blindness from measles was less than 1% of cases, it was less than a half a perfect of cases. Nearly everyone 60-80 years ago got measles, not once have you or I ever known a single person who was blinded by it.
The people of Europe have sanitation but governments are currently restricting the availability of food and warmth. The people of Africa have warmth, a bit light on food and sanitation.
An association between blindness and other "symptoms" of "measles" is a meaningless statistic without knowing what the mechanism, the physiology, of the blindness is. Lack of a particular vitamin alone does not answer that question. Don't blame a virus, find a cause. I am 66yo. When I was a kid we all got measles. No one went blind. No one died. (Same for chicken pox.) There was talk of "German Measles" aka Rubella causing blindness but I remember nothing of German measles but the talk: no one got it. It did not become fashionable to talk about Rubella until the vaccine arrived.
Thank you for covering this and providing some clarity. The system will work hard to discredit RFK Jr, it is incessant here in Canadian media, especially the CBC, our government funded broadcasting station.
there are many things you are leaving out/omitting. 1. mmr v rate in Samoa has been dropping since 2013 (90%) to 70% in 2017 to 30% in 2018. The decline happened even before the 2 deaths in children, but yes the 2 dx incident & almost a year of v suspension by their govt contributed to v hesitancy. 2. RFKjr was invited for the 57th Independence of Samoa - that was his primary reason. he wasn't there primarily to give talks about his opinion on V - that happened bc the opportunity came. 3. Samoa's neighbors, Tong & Fiji, also had outbreak despite high mmr v rate (so the discussion of whether this particular mmr v prevented spread or not must be had. it is supposed to prevent spread, but it did not. was it design for different strain? ) 4. tonga & fiji govt didn't suspend the V, therefore no decline in V rate. samoa govt did suspend it - V rate declined. 5. in sept 2019, a couple cases were found. on oct 1, 2019- unicef sends mmr V along with vitamin A (WHO lists VitA as essential to mitigate measles symptoms. it's why Unicef went vitA along with V, but there are reports saying vitA was not administered as much). Then almost 3 weeks later the real outbreak surge occurred: oct 18, 2019 - Samoa / oct 24, 2019 - Tonga / Nov 7, 2019 - Fiji . This all happened AFTER V was handed out. and importantly: 8. Ralph Baric wrote a paper about measles-scv2 chimera. 9. Samoa (& its region) had 2019 measles outbreak (when wuhan china supposedly had GoF "leaks"), and Samoa's first scv2 cvd wave was in Dec 2020. What's interesting is that they had very low death rate from cvd. So, was it the mmr v that had non-specific benefit against other virus like scv2? or the natural immunity after recovering from 2019 measles outbreak had benefit against cvd?
Do note that Samoans are big people. Aside from the cultural tradition of carrying extra weight Samoans have large muscular bodies. Without even being fat the typical Samoan will have a high BMI. Sure Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson works out but his bulk in not achieved through taking hormonal supplements. I grew up in Auckland New Zealand and attended Mt Albert Grammar School, the zoned highschool for most new polynesian migrants at the time (early 1970s) and played lunchtime rugby with all comers. I was not a small teen. The Samoans and Tongans were huge. The only safe way to tackle them was to swing from the neck and overbalance them. Being robust in build is not a typical precursor for getting measles.
Unfortunately when they do statistics they include the independent island and the one that is a US territory. Obesity does exist in Western Samoa but American Samoa is extreme. Even withing young adults. Fast and junk food is so much more affordable there.
Just curious if the Samoa government ceased and suspended the MMR vax- why didn’t the vaccination rate drop to zero? Vinay says it went from 75% to 35%.
Suspended the campaign not the vax. Campaign travel around set up clinics etc. my daughter is a doc does these. Amazing they r always there rt B4 outbreak. 🤔..,
It depends how the rate was measured. If the vaccination program had only just stopped when it was at 75%. The next day it's still going to be at least 74%.
1. adults could still get it. pple working in samoa's public health still probably got it. 2. you could still get vx from neighboring islands like Tong and Fiji. those 2 countries did not suspend mmr v, and their citizens had high v rate - but ironically, they still had measles outbreak at the same time samoa had their outbreak with low v rate.
We did have several measles outbreak here in Quebec in the past 15 years, with optimal vaccine coverage (above 85%). In fact, those outbreaks are all vaccine measles related !
Dr. Prasad, thank you so much for sharing this perspective! As an RFK Jr. campaign volunteer, I was frequently asked about this (uh, more like attacked and shamed), and I never knew what to say. Super helpful.
Nice video. Also, never heard that RFK JR was somehow related. Medical establishment (especially some 3 letter organizations, CDC, WHO, FDA) have a lot of work to do to rebuild trust.
Is it fair to call a "medication error" which resulted in death murder? Manslaughter? Was the dosing with a muscle relaxant intentional? Reckless? Were any recussitative efforts made? Did they administer Narcan? Did they have Narcan on hand? Why or Why not? The nurses reportedly hid the vials, but were they trying to avoid getting in trouble for an error or were they trying to conceal evidence of a crime? If the lethal overdoses were intentional that sounds like murder, unless they were extorted. Has this type of vaccine preperation error occured before? It just happened to occur in Samoa which was already a battleground for a medical turf war. Samoa was being staged before the measles outbreak. There is much more to this story. Did anyone do a deposition on Edwin Tamasese? What traditional and herbal or alternative practices are or were used to treat measles in Samoa? Why was the death rate so high? What exactly was the proximate cause of most of the deaths in a modern time and was it in the territory of Ameerican Samoa?
The interesting thing is that these talking points could have been found by the news networks that released the stories in the first place. There is also a suspicious lack of curiosity about the fact that the case fatality rate was so high. No questions about whether vitamin A was deployed and if not why not. Vitamin A is proven to reduced adverse outcomes from viral infections and particularly measles.
Measles as an example that vaccines protect or reduce deaths is a good study. Looking at the measles decline since 1900 there appears little proof vaccines contributed to this decline. Better housing, sanitation, food etc is the true cause. And i would say, its not because the measle virus is gone, its because our immunesystem has no issue dealing with it, it most probably even gets better "tuned" because of it (so i was told by a naturopath with extremely healthy looking children). Childhood illnesses are crucial for optimising the immunesystem. Health and wisdom to all, Erik the Netherlands
I would think it's because many diagnoses of respiratory infection are made clinically, never confirmed to be a particular organism. The people who do pursue viral testing are probably different in many dimensions than those who don't.
@ I would think that a study protocol could test a case of respiratory disease for any number of causative viruses. Why should a Covid vaccine be expected to lower rates of unspecified "colds" and "flus" for example. I really don't understand Vinay's point at all.
(1) We don't do RNA sequencing to find out which virus causes a given pneumomitis. As a result, there's a lot of subjective judgement involved in doctors coding an infection as being RSV or non-RSV pneumomitis. If the virus evades in a way to escape both the antibody tests and the vaccine, you overstate the effect of the vaccine. (2) The BCG Vaccine did have positive effects besides tuberculosis. (3) Especially in the days right after a vaccine where the body produces antibodies against the vaccine it would be possible that the body isn't as effectively fighting against other viruses. If you use the clinical endpoint of pneumomitis it's easier to pick up such side-effects.
@@sliglusamelius8578 It is harder and more expensive than you think to prove which pathogen is causing a mild infection. If two infectious diseases have very similar symptom profiles, and treating one of them has no effect on the combined incidence, then it's either an ineffective treatment or the disease doesn't happen often enough for it to matter.
My daughter was born in 1973, she got measles at 9 months. Back then, children under 1 year old didn't have any vaccines. I needed to keep her in a darkened room and try to give her fluids. The doctor said just ride it out.
Question from Arkmedics blog from post titled The Killing Fields of Samoa Was Samoa the testing ground for a release of a SARS-like coronavirus in November 2019 - via a UNICEF sponsored vaccine - that proved that the population of the world could be intimidated and coerced into accepting mandatory vaccinations?
Agree that whatever he said there had little effect one way or the other. But, what he said there will have a huge effect for his confirmation now - and to be honest, that's how it should be. I don't know what he said but I hope it was responsible.
@@nomnomyam9379 the most recent american samoa population bmi study I found, 2007 Directors Department of Health and Department of Education, 41% of toddlers were obese, 51% of boys 7 to 12 qualified as overweight, and more than 1/3 of girls 12 and under qualified as obese... If they've followed world trends those numbers are way up now...
@@nomnomyam9379 and fyi for those wondering about adults, UN did a 2005 study that found 94% of adults in american samoa were obese (and yes, obesity does make you more likely to spread more pathogens over a longer time period), even though the regional BMI scale gives them a +2 handicap
Viruses are thought to exist but have not been proven to exist. A virus is often assumed when no other cause for an illness is apparent. Wisdom would suggest that when the cause for an illness is assumed to be a virus that alternative causes should be explored. But that is not general practice. At the point of assuming that an illness is caused by a virus a doctor will stop looking for other causes. In general when looking at a respiratory illness, for example, if bacteria are not found to be present a virus will be assumed, even though there is no evidence of the assumed virus. In Samoa once a virus was assumed as the cause for an illness nominally called "measles" no other source was sought. Once measles has been diagnosed the next process is to find not a cause of the "measles" but a source of the "measles". That is the nature of the infection/contagion model. Don't look for a source of the illness, just find someone to blame. That is lazy, and unscientific.
True, you are lazy and unscientific. In fact, you are scientifically illiterate. Vaccines were proven to exist over 100 years ago. You have zero evidence to the contrary. However, your comment is evidence that you are delusional.
@TerriblePerfection Ironically the writer of the wokipedia essay on Cowan claims that his books are based on "pseudo-scientific theories" when his goal is to counter pseudo-scientific hypotheses such as "germ theory". Thank you for your comment. It helps me know that people of power are not censoring me. That is refreshing. And a surprise. I hope that the censorship will lighten up now we have a US government elected by the people. I am married to a hospital physician and my son commences his first day as a doctor on Monday. I live in New Zealand and am proud to be a compatriot of Drs Sam and Mark Bailey.
You absolutely need to be a consultant at the least for HHS going into the next administration. They need a major paradigm shift to science based decision making from lobbyist driven decision making. JFK Jr will have an uphill climb and the testimony of medical scientist like you before Congress will be vital to creating lasting legislative changes to support the shift.
4:44 Indeed, what he said when he went to Samao is still worth discussing. 5:12 “murder” is going too far, no? Yes they covered it up, but the deaths themselves were still accidental, right?
RFK likes to hear himself talk, and inflates his own importance, going to Samoa and grandstanding to a population of people who have many other health problems. Of he really cared, he’d offer suggestions for measures to improve that nation’s overall health.
Ill always call attention to RFK Jr's role in the measles outbreak in Samoa. Back then he headed an anti-vaccine non profit called "The Children's Health Defense" organization, which, in a disturbingly ironic sort of way, contributed to the deaths of dozens of children... But first, RFK Jr has made it clear that his goals as health secretary, in exchange for loyalty to Trump of course, will be to acknowledge discredited health "experts" and conspiracy theories, reinforce distrust in the professional medical community, and jeopardize public health by getting on board with the MAGA agenda to cripple the independence of government agencies, especially agencies like the CDC, FDA, the NIH, etc... RFK Jr. is a disastrous pick for this position in the sense that he's capable of doing some serious damage to public health. And this is made all the more evident by his involvement in the measles outbreak in Samoa that claimed the lives of some 83 people. Before I get into it, make sure to tune into *Behind the Bastards* recent four-part series that examines RFK Jr.'s life and career. It's an eye opening look at the guy's lifelong privilege, and his pattern of bizarre, abusive, perverse and hypocritical behavior. That being said, In 2019, there was a measles outbreak in Samoa that led to the deaths of 83 people, mostly children. What did Kennedy have to do with this? Well, of course he denies any involvement, but he visited the island a few months prior to the outbreak, and at the time, he led the Children's Health Defense organization, an anti-vax non profit. His non profit helped spread misinformation pertaining to vaccines that contributed to a decline in measles vaccinations. During his trip to Samoa, he publicly supported prominent anti-vax voices there and by exploiting the power of his last name, lent legitimacy to those voices who were very effective at stoking vaccine hesitancy. Now, prior to 2019, measles wasn't a problem in Samoa, however, in 2018, two infants died after receiving the measles vaccine. The country temporarily placed its vaccination program on hold, and Kennedy's Children's Health Defense took advantage of the tragedy to raise questions about the safety of the measles vaccine. Consequently the vaccination rate plummeted. As it turns out however, the deaths of the infants had nothing to do with the measles vaccine, and everything to do with tragic human error. Nurses administering the vaccine accidentally mixed it with a muscle relaxant, which is what killed the infants. Kennedy and his non profit did not walk back their statements afterwards, particularly as vaccination rates were dropping rapidly in the region. When he visited the island in 2019-before the outbreak-he promoted anti-vaxxers and anti-vax rhetoric. He especially lent credibility to voices there that were still using the deaths of the infants to push a narrative. > He had a meeting with Taylor Winterstein, a prominent Samoan Australian vaccination foe. In an Instagram post featuring a photo of her with Kennedy, Winterstein wrote, “I am deeply honoured to have been in the presence of a man I believe is, can and will change the course of history. This was a divinely timed, once in a lifetime opportunity and I will forever cherish the conversations and moments we shared together in Samoa.” She added hashtags used by anti-vaxxers. Public health experts complained Kennedy’s visit to Samoa helped amplifly anti-vax voices. Kennedy claimed that his meeting with Winterstein was just a coincidence, not "divinely timed." He eventually admitted however, that his trip to Samoa had been arranged with a popular anti-vaxxer, Edwin Tamasese. The trip was paid for by the CHD. > The point of the trip, he insisted, was to discuss with government officials “the introduction of a medical informatics system that would allow Samoa’s health officials to assess, in real time, the efficacy and safety of every medical intervention or drug on overall health.” This would include questioning the value of vaccinations. After the measles outbreak in 2019, the government quickly implemented an emergency vaccination program that was compulsory for the population. Kennedy's anti-vax connections on the island vehemently opposed this measure. The operation was compared to Nazi Germany. > Tamasese called it a “killing spree.” He declared the vaccination operation “the greatest crime against our people” and suggested the vaccine itself was the cause of the outbreak. Tamasese advocated against the use of conventional medicine and antibiotics and urged people to rely on papaya leaf extract and vitamins instead of the vaccine and antibiotics. During this time, Kennedy wrote to the prime Minister, *and he encouraged Samoa officials to examine the measles vaccine to 'determine, scientifically, if the outbreak was caused by inadequate vaccine coverage or alternatively, by a defective vaccine.'* Kennedy and these anti-vax voices were pushing the idea that the vaccine itself was responsible for the deaths during the outbreak. The Samoan government declared a state of emergency, and pushed back against prominent anti-vaxxers. > Soon after that, Kennedy wrote a blog post for the CHD site that called Tamasese a “medical freedom hero.” He referred to the 2019 blast of measles in Samoa as merely a “mild measles outbreak” and praised Tamasese for having “infuriated the Global Medical Cartel.” He suggested that the vaccine, along with lousy hospital protocols, had caused the deaths. So yah, he's a piece of shit. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. While to this day, he continues to deny his involvement and his responsibility in the Samoa tragedy. Again, this is the guy Trump is appointing as secretary of health. Let that sink in. Imagine this scenario I've laid out for you, but on a national scale. In a better world, this would have disqualified him from working in any government position, let alone director of HHS. Trump and his allies have already outlined a plan to first eliminate the independence of most government agencies, cleanse these agencies of anyone who is not loyal to the MAGA agenda, then put them under the direct control of the president and an executive with newly granted unilateral powers and broad immunities. By doing this, they can install loyalists into positions of power once reserved for non-partisan civil servants and educated experts in their respective fields. They'll target the FDA, the CDC, the EPA, all public health related agencies, and may even try to eliminate them altogether.
Bravo. The most sane and objective comment on this video. To say RFK had no role in perpetuating blatant misinformation is irresponsible. RFK should be held to account for his role in this tragedy.
Dr. Paul Offit may be very correct in his scientific views that he shared when talking to Dr. Zubin Damania, but he did not at all mention about how the Samoans were already not vaccinated and made it sound like it was all RFK’s fault.
“Samoan measles outbreak is the natural consequence of poor institutional behavior.” Is a terrible headline and won’t sell any papers. Neither is “Public Health Officials FAFO.”
I am an RN wondering exactly why 2 nurses were mixing injectables in 2018 in Samoa. I'm stuck on that point alone.
Probably just wanted to kill someone and blame it as a freak accident.or natural causes.
You should know better than most your field attracts some serious psychos.
Probably grabbed the wrong liquid diluant
@@liorap5636 Guarantee it wasn't an accident.
Everything you touch is very clearly labeled.
Probably wanted to get away with legal redrum.
Med field attracts some serious wackos.
Zero doubt it was not accidental.
In 2010 I was mixing this way at my hospital on Long Island, it is not a stretch to think that this was happening in Samoa at that time
You should testify at his hearing. Bring some truth, science and integrity.
Vinay is still leaving out many things.
1. mmr v rate in Samoa has been dropping since 2013 (90%) to 70% in 2017 to 30% in 2018. The decline happened even before the 2 deaths in children, but yes the 2 dx incident & almost a year of v suspension by their govt contributed the most to their v hesitancy.
2. RFKjr was invited for the 57th Independence of Samoa - that was his primary reason. he wasn't there primarily to give talks about his opinion on V - that happened bc the opportunity came.
3. Samoa's neighbors, Tong & Fiji, also had outbreak despite high mmr v rate (so the discussion of whether this particular mmr v prevented spread or not must be had. it is supposed to prevent spread, but it did not. was it design for different strain? nevertheless, you cannot blame RFKjr for Samoa outbreak when the same outbreak happened in other neighbor islands where he was never there)
4. tonga & fiji govt didn't suspend the V, therefore there was no decline in V rate (outbreak still occurred). samoa govt did suspend it - V rate declined (outbreak still occurred).
5. in sept 2019, a couple cases were found. on oct 1, 2019- unicef sends mmr V along with vitamin A (WHO lists VitA as essential to mitigate measles symptoms. it's why Unicef sent vitA along with V, but there are reports saying vitA was not administered as much). 3 weeks after they sent the mmr V, the outbreak surge occurred: oct 18, 2019 - Samoa / oct 24, 2019 - Tonga / Nov 7, 2019 - Fiji .
and importantly:
6. Ralph Baric wrote a paper about measles-scv2 chimera.
7. Samoa (& its region) had 2019 measles outbreak (when wuhan china supposedly had GoF "leaks"), and Samoa's first scv2 cvd wave was in Dec 2020. What's interesting is that they had very low death rate from cvd. So, was it the mmr v that had non-specific benefit against other virus like scv2? or the natural immunity after recovering from 2019 measles outbreak had benefit against cvd?
He says the situation there was multi factorial. Which it was. But then leaves out RFK. Which was one of the factors. One of many. But of course he has to protect RFK. He has to tow the GOP line.
It’s obvious at this point. That he even pretends to be anything but a lapdog of the republicans is laughable.
@@nomnomyam9379Whoa! Very informed reply.
If only Dr VP could be so informed.
@@nomnomyam9379 Poor metabolic health and low levels of vitamin D3 is what lead to people dying from CVD. If you eat well with plenty animal protein and fat, exercise and receive adequate sun exposure there is no chance of dying from CVD.
Thank you for clearing RFK JR from these gaslighters!
He’s still a part of the problem in this story, he’s just not the cause.
@@HelloWorld29960 Fauxi and Pharma are the real problems.
Fauxi was a proven liar during AIDS outbreak.
Part of the problem how?
And what problem is he part of exactly?
@@HelloWorld29960Where's the proof of that?
@@michaelwilkens6865 he is aggressively anti vaccine and promotes the ideology. He influences the movement and the people that read up on it because he is a big name in the space.
Thank you for breaking down the time line and addressing how to address vaccine hesitancy.
I think they are trying to discredit RFK jr
He is a huge threat to big pharma so they want to destroy him.
as they should but not in this instance
Definitely.
@danielcrummett7293 - As they should? What evidence do you have to back up what would discredit him? If it weren't for RFK Jr the Hudson River would still be a toxic cesspool.
In the pursuit of discrediting RFK, they discredited themselves.
Good riddance. Darwin’s working hard for us in the media/Information Age.
The government would never take responsibility for it. They put their energy towards cover up and finding a scapegoat.
It's essential to retract protections for vaccine makers and finally start longitudinal studies of all childhood vaccines.
We likely don't need studies done because we likely already have. It's just been sealed and kept from the public.
@@denofpigs2575 Yeah good point, these pharmaceutical companies have already paid billions of dollars in criminal damages for giving out products of which they knew were causing cancer.
Oh no. You got the UA-cam “community note” on MMR vaccines.
Thank you for researching this topic. It is always good to be willing to update our beliefs as we get more information
Yes, you have to make the science better behind these products... That's what RFK Jr has been saying from the beginning....
The #FlintWaterCrisis and other negligent public policy caused my hesitancy,
This. The reason to mistrust public health officials is because they are, in fact, government officials. We all have endless reasons to mistrust government officials.
@@alx9r my parents told me to run if I ever heard, “I’m from the govt and I’m here to help.”
Want to address vaccine hesitancy?
Here’s an idea- DO THE VAXXED VS UNVAXXED long term study to compare objective health outcomes. Very simple but they won’t do it 🤷🏼♀️
💯. A doctor did do this at his own office and lost his medical license over it. The results showed the unjabbed had nearly 0 percent diseases. Dr. Paul Thomas you can look it up. He did a whole presentation of the results.
They know the outcome of that study already and have no interest in doing it. If they knew they'd get the data they wanted, they'd have already funded the study and publicly said so just to boost confidence.
There are many studies looking at outcomes of hundreds of thousands of children in USA and in Europe - do your own re... never mind.
I didn't get any covid jabs, not symptoms, just not permitted to be anywhere near others. Oooooooooh, I might catch something from all those jabbed people who still got covid🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 I was ostracised for not protecting the community. Yeh, well, that lie came unstuck. You are wonderful and thoroughly enjoy your science based facts. Cheers Rosemary Western Australia 74yrs
@@roses9339 the messaging about the jabs was all wrong e.g. saying you're fully protected and may have influenced behaviours in the wrong direction. Tracking the hospitalisations, far and away, your chances of going to hospital with worse outcomes was for unvaccinated.
Thanks for setting the record straight Doc.
Thank you ,thank you thank you.......
Thank you for laying out the facts!
Again, bravo for speaking the truth Dr Prasad
So appreciate your unwavering pursuit of integrity in research and courage to state the truth. Much respect!
If they don't discredit RFK Jr, they know they will be exposed for their corrupt business and unethical scienctific practices.
What they fear most is randomized double blind studies without being allowed to contaminate the control groups to destroy the five year control groups results.
No five year control group means no data to compare for long term safety.
If you were familiar with Dr VP's history of comments and opinions on YT for the last 3 years, you wouldn't say that.
Excellent work, as always. Thank you.
Got to remove that 1986 Liability Protection act. Plain and simple. Come with whatever studies you want but as long as They cant be held liable for danger & harm caused I want no part in it !
i was not a sceptic until my son got injured 15 years ago. i was so not a sceptic that they gave him polio, dtap and mmr on the same day. in the first 4 hours he developed facial asimetry, in the next 48h he lost words, muscle tone and stopped looking at me and recognizing me. at 3 he was running, screaming and breaking things 22h a day and slept only 2. food was reduced to hot dogs, pizza and particular soup. i could not get any answers from medical staff so i took matter into my hands... i had motivation like never in my life, so i took medical booka, courses, listened to lectures, mapped out every single symphtom he had and targeted those sympthoms. now he is 16 comunicates in 2 languages functionaly, is self reliant. this is my opinion now:
I read in a scientific article some time ago that human DNA transfers environmental memory for 14 generations. Interestingly, in Serbia, we have a family tree organized for 16 generations, which aligns closely with what I read. The oldest in our lineage are known as White Eagle (male) and White Bee (female), so my son and I would have different White Eagle and White Bee ancestors.
I believe that over the last 200 years, rapid changes in our lifestyle have been detrimental to our health. We no longer eat the same food or store it in the same way. We are exposed to artificial lights and sounds, and our sleep patterns have changed. Additionally, the products we use on our bodies, including fabrics, have drastically evolved.
While I believe the human body can withstand and adapt to some changes over 14 or 16 generations, I don't think our DNA is designed to endure so many changes in just a few generations. Furthermore, the substances we inject into infants add to this burden. Together, these factors contribute to the rise of many "mysterious" conditions.
I have to add to this the case of Hannah Poling. Hannah was born in 2004 and because her parents are in the medical field ( her father is a neurologist John Poling) she was in a study of healthy children up until she got MMR and regressed into autism. Her case was proven in court but sealed because she was a minor ( even tho it is a case of public concern). That is when they found mitochondrial dysfunction as a predisposition to regressive autism after shots as well as that over 36% of the population born has mitochondrial dysfunction. I believe we are poisoning our bodies for the last 200 years by attacking mitochondria.
P.S. I believe that autism is a cluster of different mechanisms of damage and that is where DNA kicks in and why they all seem to have the same but totally different symptoms. And that children do not have those symptoms because they have autism but rather they have autism because of those symptoms
The Chronological Flow and Branching of Autism Causes
Autism, as a complex neurological disorder, stems from the interplay of genetic, epigenetic, and environmental factors. Its causal chain can be traced from fundamental DNA damage and epigenetic modifications, through metabolic disruptions, to specific mechanisms such as mitochondrial dysfunction, ischemia, blood-brain barrier (BBB) permeability, and, ultimately, neurological imbalances. Each of these points branches out and impacts subsequent processes, making the development of autism cumulative and causally interlinked.
1. Starting Point: DNA Damage and Epigenetic Mechanisms
Epigenetic processes, such as DNA methylation and histone modification, allow the body to adapt to environmental changes without altering the core genetic structure. However, DNA damage caused by toxins, inflammation, or nutrient deficiencies disrupts this delicate regulation.
Cause: Industrialization and increased exposure to heavy metals, pesticides, and microplastics.
Consequence: Improper DNA methylation hampers the expression of genes crucial for neurological development.
Further Branching: Damaged DNA transitions into mitochondrial dysfunction, heightening the organism’s sensitivity to metabolic stress.
2. Impaired DNA Methylation and Folate Cycle Disruption
DNA methylation relies on the availability of folate, vitamin B12, and other essential substances. When these nutrient reserves are depleted, or the methylation process is disrupted:
Cause: Poor nutrition, genetic mutations like MTHFR, and chemical imbalances.
Consequence: Gene expression dysfunction impacts the immune system and nervous system development.
Further Branching: Methylation imbalances lead to mitochondrial dysfunction, increased oxidative stress, and metabolic issues.
3. Mitochondrial Dysfunction: The Core of Metabolic Issues
Mitochondria are vital for energy production and cellular detoxification. When they malfunction:
Cause: Inherited mutations, toxin exposure, and oxidative stress.
Consequence: Energy deficiency impairs neuronal function and causes neuroinflammation.
Further Branching: Mitochondrial dysfunction triggers localized ischemic processes and compromises the blood-brain barrier.
4. Ischemia and Inflammatory Responses
Ischemia - reduced blood flow to brain regions - increases the risk of neuronal damage. Concurrently, inflammation exacerbates damage to brain cells and structures.
Cause: Mitochondrial dysfunction and impaired circulation.
Consequence: Chronic inflammatory responses compromise the structural integrity of the blood-brain barrier (BBB).
Further Branching: A leaky BBB allows toxins and immune cells to infiltrate the brain.
5. Blood-Brain Barrier (BBB) Permeability
The BBB acts as a protective layer, preventing harmful substances from entering the brain. When its function is disrupted:
Cause: Inflammation, oxidative stress, and toxic influences.
Consequence: Toxins, microglia, and immune markers enter the brain, exacerbating neuroinflammation.
Further Branching: Toxin and metal ion infiltration initiates calcium accumulation and synaptic dysfunction.
6. Calcium Accumulation and Synaptic Dysfunction
Excessive calcium buildup in neurons disrupts synaptic function, directly affecting neuronal plasticity and signaling.
Cause: Dysregulation of calcium channels due to oxidative stress and ischemia.
Consequence: Synaptic dysfunction hinders communication between brain regions, contributing to autistic symptoms.
Further Branching: Prolonged synaptic dysfunction leads to lasting neurological damage.
7. Final Outcome: Neurological and Cognitive Symptoms
All previous branches, from DNA damage to synaptic dysfunction, culminate in the manifestation of autistic symptoms:
Challenges in social communication.
Stereotyped behaviors and sensory hypersensitivity.
Cognitive imbalances and reduced flexibility in thinking.
These manifestations are not the result of a single cause but a complex web of interconnected biological and environmental factors.
Conclusion
The development of autism can be understood as the result of a cause-and-effect chain, beginning with DNA damage and epigenetic processes, through methylation and mitochondrial dysfunction, and culminating in neurological symptoms. Each point in this chain branches into intricate mechanisms, each contributing to the final picture. Understanding these interdependencies paves the way for precise diagnostics, prevention, and treatment of autism, with a particular emphasis on an individualized approach to care.
We have exchanged natural cause for dna damages.... we saved a lot but destroyed humanity
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Thank you for sharing your deep understanding. We were lucky to have come across information back in the late 90's that steered us away from vaccinating our children. Are you aware of redox signalling molecules. I can provide you more information if you are interested.
This explains so much more than autism. It is about the increased incidence of dementias, MS, ALS, Parkinson’s, and numerous other neurological disorders including depression and psychological disorders. There’s so much to consider here. Thank you.
@@juliawestley6950 thank you. Yes I am familiar with redox. What I wrote here is a kind of a summary. I am trying to put up everything that I have found but it is very hard due to all the censoring. Thank you for taking your time to read my comment. HAPPY NEW YEAR!! I hope we will get answers
@@zuzuspetals9281 yes I think so too
Good thing measles isn’t going to kill most people and most people have food, warmth, and sanitation
Less than 1% of patients who got measles in this outbreak died.
Children with no immunity can go blind. There used to be lots of cases in parts of Africa
@ children with low levels of vitamin a could go blind during a measles infection but that’s excessively rare. Between 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 300,000 cases of measles will result in blindness. The more malnourished an area is, the more frequent (1 in 10,000), the more nourished the area (1 in 300,000), the less often someone will get blindness from measles.
Before the vaccine blindness from measles was less than 1% of cases, it was less than a half a perfect of cases. Nearly everyone 60-80 years ago got measles, not once have you or I ever known a single person who was blinded by it.
The people of Europe have sanitation but governments are currently restricting the availability of food and warmth.
The people of Africa have warmth, a bit light on food and sanitation.
An association between blindness and other "symptoms" of "measles" is a meaningless statistic without knowing what the mechanism, the physiology, of the blindness is. Lack of a particular vitamin alone does not answer that question. Don't blame a virus, find a cause.
I am 66yo. When I was a kid we all got measles. No one went blind. No one died. (Same for chicken pox.) There was talk of "German Measles" aka Rubella causing blindness but I remember nothing of German measles but the talk: no one got it. It did not become fashionable to talk about Rubella until the vaccine arrived.
People repeat the assertions they hear on monopoly media. They never follow up or look into it. And that is how we do public health in the US.
That is how we do all public policy in the US.
Thank you for covering this and providing some clarity. The system will work hard to discredit RFK Jr, it is incessant here in Canadian media, especially the CBC, our government funded broadcasting station.
Keep up the good work.
More people need to hear the truth.
there are many things you are leaving out/omitting.
1. mmr v rate in Samoa has been dropping since 2013 (90%) to 70% in 2017 to 30% in 2018. The decline happened even before the 2 deaths in children, but yes the 2 dx incident & almost a year of v suspension by their govt contributed to v hesitancy.
2. RFKjr was invited for the 57th Independence of Samoa - that was his primary reason. he wasn't there primarily to give talks about his opinion on V - that happened bc the opportunity came.
3. Samoa's neighbors, Tong & Fiji, also had outbreak despite high mmr v rate (so the discussion of whether this particular mmr v prevented spread or not must be had. it is supposed to prevent spread, but it did not. was it design for different strain? )
4. tonga & fiji govt didn't suspend the V, therefore no decline in V rate. samoa govt did suspend it - V rate declined.
5. in sept 2019, a couple cases were found. on oct 1, 2019- unicef sends mmr V along with vitamin A (WHO lists VitA as essential to mitigate measles symptoms. it's why Unicef went vitA along with V, but there are reports saying vitA was not administered as much). Then almost 3 weeks later the real outbreak surge occurred: oct 18, 2019 - Samoa / oct 24, 2019 - Tonga / Nov 7, 2019 - Fiji . This all happened AFTER V was handed out.
and importantly:
8. Ralph Baric wrote a paper about measles-scv2 chimera.
9. Samoa (& its region) had 2019 measles outbreak (when wuhan china supposedly had GoF "leaks"), and Samoa's first scv2 cvd wave was in Dec 2020. What's interesting is that they had very low death rate from cvd. So, was it the mmr v that had non-specific benefit against other virus like scv2? or the natural immunity after recovering from 2019 measles outbreak had benefit against cvd?
Was Baric messing with measles/coronavirus in his lab? 😱
In other words, RFK Jr was not responsible for the vaccine hesitancy, which is the point of this video.
Good points about Fiji and Tonga having high MMR vaccination and still getting a measles outbreak.
Thank you! No one says it better.
You need skeptics as you should be skeptical until you've proved safety. Start answering important unanswered questions and there won't be hesitancy.
How seldom do we get the full and true story?
"Robert Will er" if you actually want an example of us getting the full and true story.
7:05
Thank you Vinay for not letting the timelines go. They’re hoping people will forget the sequence of events in the chaos of Covid
So nice to hear somebody sane and rational and objective to talk on these issues! Thank you!
He's one of the few honest doctors reporting on this who is not taking payments to spread lies.
In Samoa, 58.4% of adult women and 43.8% of adult men are obese.
This is higher than the regional average and among the highest in the world.
Do note that Samoans are big people.
Aside from the cultural tradition of carrying extra weight Samoans have large muscular bodies. Without even being fat the typical Samoan will have a high BMI.
Sure Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson works out but his bulk in not achieved through taking hormonal supplements.
I grew up in Auckland New Zealand and attended Mt Albert Grammar School, the zoned highschool for most new polynesian migrants at the time (early 1970s) and played lunchtime rugby with all comers. I was not a small teen. The Samoans and Tongans were huge. The only safe way to tackle them was to swing from the neck and overbalance them.
Being robust in build is not a typical precursor for getting measles.
Unfortunately when they do statistics they include the independent island and the one that is a US territory. Obesity does exist in Western Samoa but American Samoa is extreme. Even withing young adults. Fast and junk food is so much more affordable there.
@@angelicamoffett9304 The continental U.S. isn't far behind. Obesity is on display everywhere you go.
Thanks for looking deeper than I did. I came up with the same conclusion. But now I am sure.
Just curious if the Samoa government ceased and suspended the MMR vax- why didn’t the vaccination rate drop to zero? Vinay says it went from 75% to 35%.
Suspended the campaign not the vax.
Campaign travel around set up clinics etc.
my daughter is a doc does these.
Amazing they r always there rt B4 outbreak.
🤔..,
It depends how the rate was measured. If the vaccination program had only just stopped when it was at 75%. The next day it's still going to be at least 74%.
1. adults could still get it. pple working in samoa's public health still probably got it.
2. you could still get vx from neighboring islands like Tong and Fiji. those 2 countries did not suspend mmr v, and their citizens had high v rate - but ironically, they still had measles outbreak at the same time samoa had their outbreak with low v rate.
Thank you! Critical thinking is more critical than ever in this day and age!
How is anyone supposed to trust Heath and media institutions if they are this wrong about such easy details???
Great work Vinay
That's the neat part. You aren't. They've been wrong about such easy details for >200 years.
I still can't come up with a reason newborns need aluminum or any of the other garbage.
Someone please educate me.....am i missing something????
That's the neat part. There isn't one!
@denofpigs2575 unless you want to injure.... ... These evil people need stopped
We did have several measles outbreak here in Quebec in the past 15 years, with optimal vaccine coverage (above 85%). In fact, those outbreaks are all vaccine measles related !
Thank you Vinay
Invest in honesty if you want people to trust you. Indeed!
Thank you for presenting a cogent explanation for Samoan outbreak of measles.
Thank you for clarifying this story. RFK Jr has been so unfairly targeted.
i think this is how science works. logic and reasoning
It may be how science works but its not how “the science” works.
Nope. It works by adhering religiously to the paradigm and waiting for long-standing experts to drop like flies before science moves on.
Vinay Prasad, you are a legend! Thank you for your passion and wisdom.
Dr. Prasad, thank you so much for sharing this perspective! As an RFK Jr. campaign volunteer, I was frequently asked about this (uh, more like attacked and shamed), and I never knew what to say. Super helpful.
Thank you Dr. Prasad for laying out the timeline of this issue.
"Whatever he said..."
So.... what exactly did he say, and what are you opinions on that?
Nice video. Also, never heard that RFK JR was somehow related. Medical establishment (especially some 3 letter organizations, CDC, WHO, FDA) have a lot of work to do to rebuild trust.
Is it fair to call a "medication error" which resulted in death murder? Manslaughter? Was the dosing with a muscle relaxant intentional? Reckless? Were any recussitative efforts made? Did they administer Narcan? Did they have Narcan on hand? Why or Why not? The nurses reportedly hid the vials, but were they trying to avoid getting in trouble for an error or were they trying to conceal evidence of a crime? If the lethal overdoses were intentional that sounds like murder, unless they were extorted. Has this type of vaccine preperation error occured before? It just happened to occur in Samoa which was already a battleground for a medical turf war. Samoa was being staged before the measles outbreak. There is much more to this story.
Did anyone do a deposition on Edwin Tamasese?
What traditional and herbal or alternative practices are or were used to treat measles in Samoa? Why was the death rate so high? What exactly was the proximate cause of most of the deaths in a modern time and was it in the territory of Ameerican Samoa?
Happy New Year, Vinay!
There is no reason to fear measles in healthy children.
If they have measles they aren’t healthy….
Exactly..
@@Trinitybolduan”if you have a cold, you aren’t healthy.” -you basically
Well...measles is a very serious disease and can kill healthy people.
Vaxxed or not, it is serious.
1.5% death rate among those infected in Samoa lol. Careful what you say
Thank you for covering this!
The interesting thing is that these talking points could have been found by the news networks that released the stories in the first place. There is also a suspicious lack of curiosity about the fact that the case fatality rate was so high. No questions about whether vitamin A was deployed and if not why not. Vitamin A is proven to reduced adverse outcomes from viral infections and particularly measles.
Vinay do a deep dive on childhood vaccines. There are plenty of studies on animals.
I hope the new year will bring you (and us!) success in your work and dedication. PEACE AND HEALTH.
Thank you for this information!
Measles as an example that vaccines protect or reduce deaths is a good study. Looking at the measles decline since 1900 there appears little proof vaccines contributed to this decline. Better housing, sanitation, food etc is the true cause. And i would say, its not because the measle virus is gone, its because our immunesystem has no issue dealing with it, it most probably even gets better "tuned" because of it (so i was told by a naturopath with extremely healthy looking children). Childhood illnesses are crucial for optimising the immunesystem. Health and wisdom to all, Erik the Netherlands
Why not endpoint being lower disease rate from the target of the vaccine? You can't expect a RSV vax to lower non RSV pneumomitis.
I would think it's because many diagnoses of respiratory infection are made clinically, never confirmed to be a particular organism. The people who do pursue viral testing are probably different in many dimensions than those who don't.
@
I would think that a study protocol could test a case of respiratory disease for any number of causative viruses. Why should a Covid vaccine be expected to lower rates of unspecified "colds" and "flus" for example. I really don't understand Vinay's point at all.
(1) We don't do RNA sequencing to find out which virus causes a given pneumomitis. As a result, there's a lot of subjective judgement involved in doctors coding an infection as being RSV or non-RSV pneumomitis. If the virus evades in a way to escape both the antibody tests and the vaccine, you overstate the effect of the vaccine. (2) The BCG Vaccine did have positive effects besides tuberculosis. (3) Especially in the days right after a vaccine where the body produces antibodies against the vaccine it would be possible that the body isn't as effectively fighting against other viruses. If you use the clinical endpoint of pneumomitis it's easier to pick up such side-effects.
@@sliglusamelius8578 It is harder and more expensive than you think to prove which pathogen is causing a mild infection.
If two infectious diseases have very similar symptom profiles, and treating one of them has no effect on the combined incidence, then it's either an ineffective treatment or the disease doesn't happen often enough for it to matter.
Thank you for truth.
Take no maxines
This was very helpful. Thank you!
Thank you, Doctor ❤
Thank you.
My daughter was born in 1973, she got measles at 9 months. Back then, children under 1 year old didn't have any vaccines. I needed to keep her in a darkened room and try to give her fluids. The doctor said just ride it out.
Thank you!
Question from Arkmedics blog from post titled The Killing Fields of Samoa
Was Samoa the testing ground for a release of a SARS-like coronavirus in November 2019 - via a UNICEF sponsored vaccine - that proved that the population of the world could be intimidated and coerced into accepting mandatory vaccinations?
yes, that post by Arkmedics is a good reading which Vinay should go deep dive into.
Agree that whatever he said there had little effect one way or the other. But, what he said there will have a huge effect for his confirmation now - and to be honest, that's how it should be. I don't know what he said but I hope it was responsible.
Bravo as usual
It is not ‘hesitancy’ when people decide not to take drugs they can’t know to be safe. “Risks vs. benefits” is not informed consent, it is gambling.
Has VAERS ever found a safety signal in any vaccine?
Of course
@ which one?
@@ImNoclue all of them have side effects. Every report to VAERS is a safety signal. The problem is it's extremely underreported.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.!
Please interview Dr. Paul Offit!
Why?
Love your work keep it up
What's the average BMI in American Samoa?
Oh really, that has nothing to do with it
high. but this is about children. not adults.
@@nomnomyam9379 the most recent american samoa population bmi study I found, 2007 Directors Department of Health and Department of Education, 41% of toddlers were obese, 51% of boys 7 to 12 qualified as overweight, and more than 1/3 of girls 12 and under qualified as obese... If they've followed world trends those numbers are way up now...
@@nomnomyam9379 and fyi for those wondering about adults, UN did a 2005 study that found 94% of adults in american samoa were obese (and yes, obesity does make you more likely to spread more pathogens over a longer time period), even though the regional BMI scale gives them a +2 handicap
Viruses are thought to exist but have not been proven to exist.
A virus is often assumed when no other cause for an illness is apparent.
Wisdom would suggest that when the cause for an illness is assumed to be a virus that alternative causes should be explored. But that is not general practice.
At the point of assuming that an illness is caused by a virus a doctor will stop looking for other causes.
In general when looking at a respiratory illness, for example, if bacteria are not found to be present a virus will be assumed, even though there is no evidence of the assumed virus.
In Samoa once a virus was assumed as the cause for an illness nominally called "measles" no other source was sought.
Once measles has been diagnosed the next process is to find not a cause of the "measles" but a source of the "measles".
That is the nature of the infection/contagion model. Don't look for a source of the illness, just find someone to blame.
That is lazy, and unscientific.
True, you are lazy and unscientific. In fact, you are scientifically illiterate.
Vaccines were proven to exist over 100 years ago.
You have zero evidence to the contrary.
However, your comment is evidence that you are delusional.
Thomas Cowan would agree with you, as do I.
@TerriblePerfection
Ironically the writer of the wokipedia essay on Cowan claims that his books are based on "pseudo-scientific theories" when his goal is to counter pseudo-scientific hypotheses such as "germ theory".
Thank you for your comment. It helps me know that people of power are not censoring me. That is refreshing. And a surprise. I hope that the censorship will lighten up now we have a US government elected by the people.
I am married to a hospital physician and my son commences his first day as a doctor on Monday. I live in New Zealand and am proud to be a compatriot of Drs Sam and Mark Bailey.
You absolutely need to be a consultant at the least for HHS going into the next administration. They need a major paradigm shift to science based decision making from lobbyist driven decision making. JFK Jr will have an uphill climb and the testimony of medical scientist like you before Congress will be vital to creating lasting legislative changes to support the shift.
Spot on champ it was the previous corrupt Samoan (HRPP) Government the party who was in government for past 40 years
People are starting to realize that spread of diseases is sometimes not natural and not accidental.
There is now a publication in The Lancet to this topic repeating the same lies.
4:44 Indeed, what he said when he went to Samao is still worth discussing.
5:12 “murder” is going too far, no? Yes they covered it up, but the deaths themselves were still accidental, right?
Dr. Vinay for Chief Medical Advisor 🎉
RFK likes to hear himself talk, and inflates his own importance, going to Samoa and grandstanding to a population of people who have many other health problems. Of he really cared, he’d offer suggestions for measures to improve that nation’s overall health.
Put better: If you want to be trusted, first you must be trustworthy.
Ill always call attention to RFK Jr's role in the measles outbreak in Samoa. Back then he headed an anti-vaccine non profit called "The Children's Health Defense" organization, which, in a disturbingly ironic sort of way, contributed to the deaths of dozens of children...
But first,
RFK Jr has made it clear that his goals as health secretary, in exchange for loyalty to Trump of course, will be to acknowledge discredited health "experts" and conspiracy theories, reinforce distrust in the professional medical community, and jeopardize public health by getting on board with the MAGA agenda to cripple the independence of government agencies, especially agencies like the CDC, FDA, the NIH, etc...
RFK Jr. is a disastrous pick for this position in the sense that he's capable of doing some serious damage to public health.
And this is made all the more evident by his involvement in the measles outbreak in Samoa that claimed the lives of some 83 people.
Before I get into it, make sure to tune into *Behind the Bastards* recent four-part series that examines RFK Jr.'s life and career.
It's an eye opening look at the guy's lifelong privilege, and his pattern of bizarre, abusive, perverse and hypocritical behavior.
That being said, In 2019, there was a measles outbreak in Samoa that led to the deaths of 83 people, mostly children. What did Kennedy have to do with this? Well, of course he denies any involvement, but he visited the island a few months prior to the outbreak, and at the time, he led the Children's Health Defense organization, an anti-vax non profit.
His non profit helped spread misinformation pertaining to vaccines that contributed to a decline in measles vaccinations. During his trip to Samoa, he publicly supported prominent anti-vax voices there and by exploiting the power of his last name, lent legitimacy to those voices who were very effective at stoking vaccine hesitancy.
Now, prior to 2019, measles wasn't a problem in Samoa, however, in 2018, two infants died after receiving the measles vaccine. The country temporarily placed its vaccination program on hold, and Kennedy's Children's Health Defense took advantage of the tragedy to raise questions about the safety of the measles vaccine. Consequently the vaccination rate plummeted.
As it turns out however, the deaths of the infants had nothing to do with the measles vaccine, and everything to do with tragic human error. Nurses administering the vaccine accidentally mixed it with a muscle relaxant, which is what killed the infants.
Kennedy and his non profit did not walk back their statements afterwards, particularly as vaccination rates were dropping rapidly in the region.
When he visited the island in 2019-before the outbreak-he promoted anti-vaxxers and anti-vax rhetoric. He especially lent credibility to voices there that were still using the deaths of the infants to push a narrative.
> He had a meeting with Taylor Winterstein, a prominent Samoan Australian vaccination foe. In an Instagram post featuring a photo of her with Kennedy, Winterstein wrote, “I am deeply honoured to have been in the presence of a man I believe is, can and will change the course of history. This was a divinely timed, once in a lifetime opportunity and I will forever cherish the conversations and moments we shared together in Samoa.” She added hashtags used by anti-vaxxers. Public health experts complained Kennedy’s visit to Samoa helped amplifly anti-vax voices.
Kennedy claimed that his meeting with Winterstein was just a coincidence, not "divinely timed." He eventually admitted however, that his trip to Samoa had been arranged with a popular anti-vaxxer, Edwin Tamasese. The trip was paid for by the CHD.
> The point of the trip, he insisted, was to discuss with government officials “the introduction of a medical informatics system that would allow Samoa’s health officials to assess, in real time, the efficacy and safety of every medical intervention or drug on overall health.” This would include questioning the value of vaccinations.
After the measles outbreak in 2019, the government quickly implemented an emergency vaccination program that was compulsory for the population. Kennedy's anti-vax connections on the island vehemently opposed this measure. The operation was compared to Nazi Germany.
> Tamasese called it a “killing spree.” He declared the vaccination operation “the greatest crime against our people” and suggested the vaccine itself was the cause of the outbreak. Tamasese advocated against the use of conventional medicine and antibiotics and urged people to rely on papaya leaf extract and vitamins instead of the vaccine and antibiotics.
During this time, Kennedy wrote to the prime Minister, *and he encouraged Samoa officials to examine the measles vaccine to 'determine, scientifically, if the outbreak was caused by inadequate vaccine coverage or alternatively, by a defective vaccine.'*
Kennedy and these anti-vax voices were pushing the idea that the vaccine itself was responsible for the deaths during the outbreak.
The Samoan government declared a state of emergency, and pushed back against prominent anti-vaxxers.
> Soon after that, Kennedy wrote a blog post for the CHD site that called Tamasese a “medical freedom hero.” He referred to the 2019 blast of measles in Samoa as merely a “mild measles outbreak” and praised Tamasese for having “infuriated the Global Medical Cartel.” He suggested that the vaccine, along with lousy hospital protocols, had caused the deaths.
So yah, he's a piece of shit. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
While to this day, he continues to deny his involvement and his responsibility in the Samoa tragedy.
Again, this is the guy Trump is appointing as secretary of health. Let that sink in. Imagine this scenario I've laid out for you, but on a national scale.
In a better world, this would have disqualified him from working in any government position, let alone director of HHS.
Trump and his allies have already outlined a plan to first eliminate the independence of most government agencies, cleanse these agencies of anyone who is not loyal to the MAGA agenda, then put them under the direct control of the president and an executive with newly granted unilateral powers and broad immunities.
By doing this, they can install loyalists into positions of power once reserved for non-partisan civil servants and educated experts in their respective fields. They'll target the FDA, the CDC, the EPA, all public health related agencies, and may even try to eliminate them altogether.
Bravo. The most sane and objective comment on this video. To say RFK had no role in perpetuating blatant misinformation is irresponsible. RFK should be held to account for his role in this tragedy.
I wonder when "they" will remove the I, Idiopathic from ITP and replace it with VI.
Dr. Paul Offit may be very correct in his scientific views that he shared when talking to Dr. Zubin Damania, but he did not at all mention about how the Samoans were already not vaccinated and made it sound like it was all RFK’s fault.
We need to forget dealing with WHO.
Lowering of NZ vaccination rates didn't help either.
wtf how many times is Samoa going to get measles
Explain his minor role.
New Zealand took the rap for Samoa outbreak but in that time NOT RFK 🤦♀️
thank you for clearing this up, i am sharing with all the people who repeat 'the news' that RFK jr is responsible.
Blue Anon begs to differ...
These are not isolated incidents. Someone has targeted Samoa.
Thank you for stating the truth. RFK Jr. has been dragged through the mud in the mainstream media. RFK Jr. will do great great things.
WHO. You got it right!
Fear is a poor decision maker
“Samoan measles outbreak is the natural consequence of poor institutional behavior.” Is a terrible headline and won’t sell any papers. Neither is “Public Health Officials FAFO.”
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Why is he still want to push vaccines??