@AnimeBronx The concept of the many Santa's around the world is a great one, and I LOVE that Coal Kringle is envisioned as a stop motion animated character akin to Rankin/Bass. But the entire story sucks unfortunately.
Definitely. I don't think the magic could be recreated again. Maybe it would have been ok, but it would never be as good as the original. Not every Christmas sequel can be Home Alone 2.
@@AnimeBronx To be fair, sometimes it's okay. I mean, look at Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings. Needed sequels to be complete. And yes, they were incredibly (possibly too long of) stories, but having a 9 hour movie would be too much for anyone. That's too long.
Honestly it’s weird Walter isn’t in the script for a movie about strained parental/child relationships. I’d honestly have cut out Falcon and had Buddy’s conversations regarding Suzie’s issues be between him and Walter
I thought the same exact thing! Especially since Falcon disappears from the script after Buddy becomes Brian, and isn’t relevant to the plot. That’d make way more sense to do if it was a cameo from the first movie. Plus, like you mentioned, thematically it’d make *way* more sense!
I thought the same thing! It'd be such a cool subversion of the first where it's Buddy being a fish out of water in the human world- a sequel leaning into the multiple Santas could have made him a fish out of water in the North Pole!
If Across The Spider-Verse didn't already exist, an equivalent of a Spider-Society not trusting Miles scenario would've been really interesting. A plot point where multiple, if not all, the Santas don't trust Buddy for being a human/elf hybrid instead of a pure elf could've been a brilliant concept.
@@creativecutieprincessdI think the gesture is sweet. Especially for the Christmas movie theme of family quirkiness being accepted because Christmas is about enjoying the good things with family. I do agree it would probably come off as mean spirited though.
This is kind of an interesting story. But to me, it kinda feels like a little more like a stand-alone sequel rather than a direct sequel. I think if I they ever dig this up, I think this could only work as a TV special, MAX Orginal Movie, or a movie that could air on Cartoon Network.
Elf is a good example of a movie that doesn't need a sequel. The story was complete as it was, there wasn't anything new to add. The plot didn't sound very good anyway. it had some nice ideas like Coal Kringle as an "Anti-Santa" but it was clearly very shallow. Regardless of his strained relationship with Favreau I'm glad Farrell understood that he's only be doing a sequel purely out of greed & didn't want that.
Home Alone was another example of a movie that didn't need a sequel. The unfortunate thing is no one stopped Home Alone 2 Lost In New York from getting made. Not to mention the other failed sequels that followed.
@@1977TAthe thing is, home alone 2 had the same characters and same plots and didn’t need changes outside of some minor or huge ones, The rest of the home alone movies on the other hand, you’re right
One of the reasons Elf is a beloved holiday film is it is a well written single self-contained story. Studio executives wanted Elf 2 not because it was necessary. Even if Will Farrell agreed to reprise his role as Buddy and the other conflicts got resolved allowing the film to get made it would have been a cash grab flop that everyone involved would have regretted being a part of. Home Alone 2 Lost In New York is an inferior retread of the original that had to go out of its way to create another situation in which Kevin gets forgotten during the Christmas season. The original Home Alone was a perfect self-contained holiday story that was diminished by a weak sequel followed by several other disastrous attempts at turning it into a franchise. The same thing would have happened to Elf. We are very fortunate Elf 2 did not get made.
At this point- probably not until 2024. There's something I'm waiting on to finish the video, and when you see what it is, I'm sure you'll agree that it made the video worth the wait :)
It's so funny how this movie didn't materialize almost solely because Favreau and Ferrell both had too much integrity 20 years ago, whereas now they've both separately made 5-10 completely soulless projects and would do almost anything for a paycheck. Wouldn't be surprised to hear this being reworked within the next few years.
Jesus I don’t agree w this at all. It’s Will’s life, he doesn’t have to do every project just bc we want him to. You don’t have to disrespect his entire line of work.
@@tonybalony1811 What are the Will Ferrell movies of the last 10 years that are so good or important to you that it made you feel so passionately upset about me calling them soulless?
@@codyvictorlucas972 You wanna talk to ME about exaggerating a point?? Look at your original comment: “completely soulless projects and do anything for a paycheck”. That was dramatic as hell.
I really like the idea of the plot of Elf 2. If the producers can de-Elf-ify the film, make it a completely standalone film, changing the plot to make it make more sense, this will totally work without Ferrell.
I think this every year! It would be a really fun concept for a movie, all of the mall santas and every culture’s version of the big guy all getting together for some kind of common goal.
I already knew you were doing this video last year from Scribbles to Screen’s Christmas lost media video and after waiting a full year for it I feel so rewarded to being one of few people who knew you were doing this.
Yeah, when I saw Elf, I wish they could make a sequel. I even had an imagine thought that Buddy, his father, and everyone, including his brother Michael, might go in an indoor waterpark, probably due to a huge blizzard hitting New York. It's sad, but it's for the best to have Elf starring. Will Ferrell become one of the funniest Christmas movies of all time.
a better story line is the success buddy the elf had making his christmas book that became a major success and Miles Finch organizing a plan to plot his revenge because they stole his book.
Even if Will Ferrell returned to Star as Buddy and Jon Favreau returned as director the film wouldn’t have been as good as the original and it would’ve felt like a cash grab and it would’ve lacked the same magic as the original
This route is similar to the Pinocchio franchise. The first movie, The Adventures of Pinocchio was a 1996 film that starred Jonathan Taylor Thomas as the titular character and Martin Landau as a supporting role. Udo Kier plays as a villainous character in it but it didn’t do well at the box office leading to a direct-to-video sequel 3 years later named The New Adventures of Pinocchio. This time, Jonathan was nowhere to be spotted and really couldn’t participate in the production because he was a teenager who couldn’t play a young child at the time which led to Gabriel Thomson as the lead role. Martin and Udo came back for this but some of the people that played their characters from the first movie are replaced by new people. Ex: The original actor who played as Lampwick originally didn’t partake in this but instead was replaced by a new person. The first movie took place in Italy while the second one took place in Luxembourg which may explain some of the British accents some people had in the second film.
What if they include parts of Buddy mentioning his father, then it goes to a flashback of Walter saying, "Just who the heck are you and what is your problem?" and Buddy saying, "I'm Buddy. I'm your son." Then Buddy could mention when him and his father reconciled and the flashback shows them hugging.
It kind of sounds like the sequel to Enchanted. On paper, the concept of moving your "fish out of water who's ripped out of fantasy and forced into reality" lead character from New York City to a more conservative suburb and having them deal with their kids growing up and distancing themselves feels like an easy direction to take a sequel, but I don't really think it was necessary for any reason except money in either example. Telling a complete story in a single movie is fine, and it probably was better for Elf's legacy as a Christmas movie staple in the long-run.
“Elf” is perfect the way it is. There’s no need to make it a franchise of an otherwise straightforward, Xmas classic and story. Though, it would be interesting to see what a fan film based on this Elf 2 script would have looked like if it were officially made.
Wow, this is a first! Girls to contrast against the weird kid in school that AREN'T trying to bully her mean girls style, they just, want to be friends and are a bit unfair on her quirks/culture. That's a very refreshing take that'd make this a not bad sequel imo!
@@HemmasStudios_ For sure for sure. ADMITTEDLY it does feel at points like a couple of movies pasted together but a few rewrites coulda fixed it well...just wow I had no idea there was that much beef between Jon and Will lol ah well at least we know what could've been. Lost media: Found.
Great stuff as always, mate! I especially like the addition of the zoolander 2 poster at 15:49 when talking about sequels Will Ferrell would be embarrassed by.
This would’ve been so fire with Will Ferrel. I’m definitely glad it wasn’t made with someone else instead. But we missed out on a strange niche Christmas classic.
I’m glad Elf is a stand alone film, too me it’s iconic like The Santa Clause which I wish would of left it at one each film just kept getting progressively worse. I’d would hate to see Elf go down that same road
Tbh I hate to disagree with the other people in the comments, but this movie sounded really bad. It has a few good moments and ideas but overall feels like a cheap cheesy hallmark movie, missing every ounce of comedy and magic from the first one. Not to mention feels like a basic family movie with Christmas and Elf stuff as the D Plot of the movie.
9:07 I can already imagine the Australian equivalent of Santa being like the one depicted In various Australian christmas books wearing a bucket hat with a floral shirt suspendors and flipflops
Very coincidental that today you commented this on the video. This morning I was thinking specifically about the stuff I put in the news bar. I deadass think it’s the most underrated joke I have in any of the videos.
The Elf story is a complete story, no need for a sequel, but I kinda liked the premise of the potential sequel script - just needed more Walter and Jodie, I agree with your points on its flaws Too bad Will and Jon didn’t get along :(
Wow, I had absolutely no idea what a sequel would've been like. But I'll say that script doesn't sound too great. Elf is better off on its own. After all, not everything needs a sequel.
A claymation Elf movie could be cool. Sorta like the TV special they did. It would be cool if they got Will to do the voice too. But i think it could work without Will.
Koal's entire sequence sounds right outta the first with the oddness, the rest unfortunately sound really dour and rough on the Buddy character. Also nothing about his father or brother? Odd script but id be lying if not curious
The Koal stuff could have been the focus. Like imagine if Buddy writing the story about Koal leads to increased belief in him and allows him to be unleashed upon the world causing mischief
How about as an animated movie? Might be interesting that way as well as keeping the actors separated through voice over roles. They can't argue if they are not in the same room
Honestly so glad this wasn’t made, it would’ve been pretty bad. Why do so many sequels have to be this way, it completely loses the charm to the first movie. Elf is a perfect movie by itself, it doesn’t need a sequel EVER!
I've heard about the sequel and Will's reluctance to do it. After watching this video and seeing how the story would unfold, I am really glad it didn't happen. It didn't really bring anything to the original, nor did it seem to have that special magic the first film had. Glad Will passed on this, and ELF is a standalone Christmas classic.
Wow.... that script is just awful! ahahahahhaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! First and foremost I agree that Elf is a stand out movie just on its own and doesn't need any other stories told after. If they had set up some form of conflict or something more than just him and Jovi having a child, then maybe.... but nothing else was set up to be able to make another movie... If they actually made another light hearted script that is also wholesome with some elements of conflict, but not too much stuff going on then maybe... It just seems like they really were trying to force a story there... too much useless crap going on or just forced ideas... I hate the idea of more Santas... but it was a cute idea to have each Santa help out and give some gifts from all over the world...
WOAH WOAH WOAH… HOLD IT… ANTI SANTA? Let me why I freaked out. Ok so my grandma had a lot of toys and play sets which (among other things) included a Barbie House, a Little North Pole, & a Little people Christmas Train. The Train and North Pole both had Santas, but one had green gloves and the other had purple. Basically, every Christmas Eve my family would get to open one present at my grandma’s house. To pass the time, me and my sister created this universe where a little Barbie doll went to the North Pole. In Year 2, Santa got captured by his evil twin (The one with purple gloves) and the Barbie and elves she met had to save him by riding in a flying bike ET style, and a reindeer. That’s why I freaked out so much.
@jamesbacon300 I’d have to agree with you. Originally, they were to going to call it Elf 2 but had its changed title to what we know it as today called Step Brothers.
That story never worked. But this new Elf 2 movie in production is gonna be the best Christmas film ever now along with another sequel getting produced as we are present. In Jesus Christs name we pray amen.
I don’t think it was that bad tbh, I think it should involve his human family more and his daughter like hanging out with them more rather then buddy, and some other minor tweaks, maybe since Walters OG actor passed they could do one of those grandpa passed type things but I’m not sure lol
I’m kind of mixed about this movie’s plot, but I’m glad it got canceled. It would’ve been just another instance of a sequel not being as good as the original. Although, the idea of an Elf sequel didn’t *completely* go in vain-Buddy's Musical Christmas, anyone?
You need at least two things for a good sequel. One is a good story. Two would be the original cast. We've seen what happened with Home Alone. The first sequel was basically the original's outline but with different details. (Mad magazine's spoof had the homeless lady be the old man in disguise.) Home Alone 3 had some good moments. Home Alone 4 was probably the worst. Future films were slightly better. I don't blame Will Ferrell for saying no. The film would have needed more original cast members. After all, Buddy wrote for Walter's publishing company. It's unlikely that Jovie would have kept working at the store. Maybe her singing career finally took off. Suppose the director hadn't been attached to a possible sequel. Alas, we'll probably never see one. That may be for the best. Ed Asner and James Caan are now gone. Bob Newhart is still here but getting older, like the rest of us.
As much as I think that Elf doesn't even need a sequel, there are some legitimately good ideas here, but overall there's just... too much going on. It hardly even feels like a real story and is trying to do way too much at once. Having multiple Santas is a neat concept and something I haven't seen many Christmas movies do, but then they also throw in a "father can't connect with his daughter because he embarrasses her too much" plot that feels really generic I'm sorry.
I would think if they kept the budget down it might be a nice like direct to streaming holiday. Cuz it sounds interesting but if I was a studio I went bet too much on it. And mainly not so much because it isn't as Christmassy but because it sounds too serious when compared to the original movie but as one who loves the movie elf I might find it interesting to see what happened after the first movie.
6:00 Buddy going by Brian is interesting as i do recall one source stating Buddy's birthname was William Hobbs i can't remember where i found out that information but i thought it was worth mentioning
I wish Elf 2 would have happened, Will Farrell ruined the chance in the first place, I love your Channel by the way, can you do a video about Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian ?
Somehow, The Son of The Mask actually made the world a better place
it always has been
The world is sh*t right now. The f*ck you smoking.🤣🤣
@@coreymckee4844Made it better, he didn't mention it is a good place
Actually it didn't...the original Jim Carrey film the Mask made the world a better place.
Yeah, I agree with Favreau.
Elf is simply one of a kind and a complete story, it definitely doesn’t need a sequel.
Agreed and definitely 1000% a one-off for sure
Nothing needs a sequel. But they happen anyway. I think this would’ve been really interesting.
@AnimeBronx The concept of the many Santa's around the world is a great one, and I LOVE that Coal Kringle is envisioned as a stop motion animated character akin to Rankin/Bass.
But the entire story sucks unfortunately.
Definitely. I don't think the magic could be recreated again. Maybe it would have been ok, but it would never be as good as the original. Not every Christmas sequel can be Home Alone 2.
@@AnimeBronx To be fair, sometimes it's okay. I mean, look at Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings. Needed sequels to be complete. And yes, they were incredibly (possibly too long of) stories, but having a 9 hour movie would be too much for anyone. That's too long.
Honestly it’s weird Walter isn’t in the script for a movie about strained parental/child relationships. I’d honestly have cut out Falcon and had Buddy’s conversations regarding Suzie’s issues be between him and Walter
I thought the same exact thing! Especially since Falcon disappears from the script after Buddy becomes Brian, and isn’t relevant to the plot. That’d make way more sense to do if it was a cameo from the first movie. Plus, like you mentioned, thematically it’d make *way* more sense!
Not sure when this film was being made but the actor of Walter was probably dead
@@Vitallor he died only a few years ago so no, he would’ve been alive
@@mrcritical6751oh yeah forgot I thought he died ages ago idk why
I'd also swap out Coal for Krampus, neat nod to mythololgy and fits.
Honestly, if I were the one writing the script, I'd have it be more focused on the whole "multiple Santas" thing
I thought the same thing! It'd be such a cool subversion of the first where it's Buddy being a fish out of water in the human world- a sequel leaning into the multiple Santas could have made him a fish out of water in the North Pole!
If Across The Spider-Verse didn't already exist, an equivalent of a Spider-Society not trusting Miles scenario would've been really interesting. A plot point where multiple, if not all, the Santas don't trust Buddy for being a human/elf hybrid instead of a pure elf could've been a brilliant concept.
“Buddy the Elf in the Multiverse of Santas”
It sounds like they were trying to turn Elf into one of “The Santa Clause” movies…
I mean, it *does* sound better than Santa Clause 3 :P
I think this script sounds too mean-spirited for Susie. Especially the book written about her. I see alot of fans turning on Buddy for that one.
Seems to be a pattern when it comes to direct sequels. The characters almost always get butchered one way or another
@@creativecutieprincessdI think the gesture is sweet. Especially for the Christmas movie theme of family quirkiness being accepted because Christmas is about enjoying the good things with family. I do agree it would probably come off as mean spirited though.
This is kind of an interesting story. But to me, it kinda feels like a little more like a stand-alone sequel rather than a direct sequel. I think if I they ever dig this up, I think this could only work as a TV special, MAX Orginal Movie, or a movie that could air on Cartoon Network.
Elf is a good stand-alone movie it doesn’t need sequels
I would argue that it may be a *perfect* standalone movie :P
Why's Koal Kringle in so little of the movie when he's the main villain? That's weird. I was expecting a reveal that Mr. Spicer is Koal Kringle.
Holy cow. I didn’t even consider that- but now that you say that, it seems like a route the movie could have took for sure!
All I know is that if I were Will Ferrel and I read that script, I would have turned it down too.
Elf is a good example of a movie that doesn't need a sequel. The story was complete as it was, there wasn't anything new to add.
The plot didn't sound very good anyway. it had some nice ideas like Coal Kringle as an "Anti-Santa" but it was clearly very shallow. Regardless of his strained relationship with Favreau I'm glad Farrell understood that he's only be doing a sequel purely out of greed & didn't want that.
Home Alone was another example of a movie that didn't need a sequel. The unfortunate thing is no one stopped Home Alone 2 Lost In New York from getting made. Not to mention the other failed sequels that followed.
Coal Kringle would either be Krampus or the Grinch
@@1977TA I have a soft spot for Home Alone 2. But the other sequels I agree are garbage that never should have been made.
@@1977TAthe thing is, home alone 2 had the same characters and same plots and didn’t need changes outside of some minor or huge ones, The rest of the home alone movies on the other hand, you’re right
This is “Elf: into/across the Santaverse.
One of the reasons Elf is a beloved holiday film is it is a well written single self-contained story. Studio executives wanted Elf 2 not because it was necessary. Even if Will Farrell agreed to reprise his role as Buddy and the other conflicts got resolved allowing the film to get made it would have been a cash grab flop that everyone involved would have regretted being a part of. Home Alone 2 Lost In New York is an inferior retread of the original that had to go out of its way to create another situation in which Kevin gets forgotten during the Christmas season. The original Home Alone was a perfect self-contained holiday story that was diminished by a weak sequel followed by several other disastrous attempts at turning it into a franchise. The same thing would have happened to Elf. We are very fortunate Elf 2 did not get made.
Very eloquently said
@@HemmasStudios_When’s🤠Coming?
At this point- probably not until 2024. There's something I'm waiting on to finish the video, and when you see what it is, I'm sure you'll agree that it made the video worth the wait :)
@@HemmasStudios_Ok?🧐🧐🧐
I can see that script being its own movie without elf
Especially without characters from the first movie like Walter!
how so?
@@VinluvAntonHandesbukia probable as a movie about Santa having a family
I read the script. It was like two different movies hastily glued together. It was horrible.
always forgot that Zooey Deschanel was in the first one. She clearly is the poster girl of mid budget 2000s romcom movies
I will say that script was much better than I expected. I could see it working with a touch up.
Actually agree. There’s something there with it.
It's so funny how this movie didn't materialize almost solely because Favreau and Ferrell both had too much integrity 20 years ago, whereas now they've both separately made 5-10 completely soulless projects and would do almost anything for a paycheck. Wouldn't be surprised to hear this being reworked within the next few years.
Jesus I don’t agree w this at all. It’s Will’s life, he doesn’t have to do every project just bc we want him to. You don’t have to disrespect his entire line of work.
@@tonybalony1811 Get off his dick, people are allowed to criticize bad movies, especially when a lead actor definitely knew better.
@@tonybalony1811 What are the Will Ferrell movies of the last 10 years that are so good or important to you that it made you feel so passionately upset about me calling them soulless?
Eh. No.
@@codyvictorlucas972 You wanna talk to ME about exaggerating a point?? Look at your original comment: “completely soulless projects and do anything for a paycheck”. That was dramatic as hell.
I really like the idea of the plot of Elf 2. If the producers can de-Elf-ify the film, make it a completely standalone film, changing the plot to make it make more sense, this will totally work without Ferrell.
I vote recast will Farrell
Happy 20th anniversary to this film. Same with the more crass and cynical Christmas comedy, Bad Santa.
I feel like that multiple santa concept could work as a standalone movie
I think this every year! It would be a really fun concept for a movie, all of the mall santas and every culture’s version of the big guy all getting together for some kind of common goal.
I already knew you were doing this video last year from Scribbles to Screen’s Christmas lost media video and after waiting a full year for it I feel so rewarded to being one of few people who knew you were doing this.
That rocks! Scribbles did me a favor by shouting that out. I’m glad you feel the wait was well rewarded :P
I thought he was doing it but I have not seen that vid in a while. You’re awesome
If anything, Elf is good on its own with out a sequel.
Heck, Elf is a fun movie for the holidays!
Yeah, when I saw Elf, I wish they could make a sequel. I even had an imagine thought that Buddy, his father, and everyone, including his brother Michael, might go in an indoor waterpark, probably due to a huge blizzard hitting New York. It's sad, but it's for the best to have Elf starring. Will Ferrell become one of the funniest Christmas movies of all time.
Fun fact: the full uncropped version of the picture in the thumbnail is Buddy (Will Ferrell) pinning an elf to the ground and strangling them
a better story line is the success buddy the elf had making his christmas book that became a major success and Miles Finch organizing a plan to plot his revenge because they stole his book.
Believe they canceled this after trying to explain the individualized Santa.
Santa can do everything in one day. Thinking as a child.
If you could get Peter Dinklage to play the South Pole Santa I would pay to make this movie
Someone needs to teach Hollywood the phrase, “And they lived happily ever after!”
Even if Will Ferrell returned to Star as Buddy and Jon Favreau returned as director the film wouldn’t have been as good as the original and it would’ve felt like a cash grab and it would’ve lacked the same magic as the original
James was great as Buddy's dad....Rest in peace Mr. Caan.😊😊😢😢
Will you make a canned goods of a cancelled Scooby Doo live action movie that was set to release in the 90s
I don't 100% know if a video will happen for it, but I can, at the very least, look into it!
This route is similar to the Pinocchio franchise. The first movie, The Adventures of Pinocchio was a 1996 film that starred Jonathan Taylor Thomas as the titular character and Martin Landau as a supporting role. Udo Kier plays as a villainous character in it but it didn’t do well at the box office leading to a direct-to-video sequel 3 years later named The New Adventures of Pinocchio. This time, Jonathan was nowhere to be spotted and really couldn’t participate in the production because he was a teenager who couldn’t play a young child at the time which led to Gabriel Thomson as the lead role. Martin and Udo came back for this but some of the people that played their characters from the first movie are replaced by new people. Ex: The original actor who played as Lampwick originally didn’t partake in this but instead was replaced by a new person. The first movie took place in Italy while the second one took place in Luxembourg which may explain some of the British accents some people had in the second film.
What if they include parts of Buddy mentioning his father, then it goes to a flashback of Walter saying, "Just who the heck are you and what is your problem?" and Buddy saying, "I'm Buddy. I'm your son." Then Buddy could mention when him and his father reconciled and the flashback shows them hugging.
Can you please talk about the canceled Lego Batman Movie sequel please
If I ever had a chance to read the script, I’d love to do Lego Batman 2!
It kind of sounds like the sequel to Enchanted. On paper, the concept of moving your "fish out of water who's ripped out of fantasy and forced into reality" lead character from New York City to a more conservative suburb and having them deal with their kids growing up and distancing themselves feels like an easy direction to take a sequel, but I don't really think it was necessary for any reason except money in either example. Telling a complete story in a single movie is fine, and it probably was better for Elf's legacy as a Christmas movie staple in the long-run.
Not to mention that Encanted itself had such a lackluster sequel.
NGL, the script indeed sounds like those dvd sequels people just forgot like the Dr. Dollitle ones
You just unlocked some deep memory with the Dr. Doolittle mention
“Elf” is perfect the way it is. There’s no need to make it a franchise of an otherwise straightforward, Xmas classic and story. Though, it would be interesting to see what a fan film based on this Elf 2 script would have looked like if it were officially made.
Phenomenal as always. What could possibly work for elf 2 would be buddy becoming the next Santa but ik they’d somehow make it bad.
A little Fred Claus action, perhaps?
Wow, this is a first! Girls to contrast against the weird kid in school that AREN'T trying to bully her mean girls style, they just, want to be friends and are a bit unfair on her quirks/culture. That's a very refreshing take that'd make this a not bad sequel imo!
That was easily one of my favorite aspects of the story
@@HemmasStudios_ For sure for sure. ADMITTEDLY it does feel at points like a couple of movies pasted together but a few rewrites coulda fixed it well...just wow I had no idea there was that much beef between Jon and Will lol ah well at least we know what could've been. Lost media: Found.
11:34 This sounds an awful lot like Oogie Boogie's doomed fate for Sally and Santa Claus in "The Nightmare Before Christmas."
Great stuff as always, mate!
I especially like the addition of the zoolander 2 poster at 15:49 when talking about sequels Will Ferrell would be embarrassed by.
Thank you for the kind words! Zoolander 2 came to mind as soon as Ferrell was talking about crappy sequels- I thought it’d be a fun Easter egg :P
However, Daddy’s Home 2 was great IMO
I love elf. It never gets old. This actually sounds pretty funny
Those kids were jerks because their dad's a jerk. It's not just because they're kids
It would’ve been nice to see Walter and Susie’s bond. And her bond with Emily and her bond with Michael.
This would’ve been so fire with Will Ferrel. I’m definitely glad it wasn’t made with someone else instead. But we missed out on a strange niche Christmas classic.
I’m glad Elf is a stand alone film, too me it’s iconic like The Santa Clause which I wish would of left it at one each film just kept getting progressively worse. I’d would hate to see Elf go down that same road
I feel like this could work fine as an original film unrelated to the original Elf.
this unmade Elf movie can be reworked into a sequel to Violent Night the Santa movie starring David Harbour
I really dig that idea. Violent Night sequel with a Summit of Santas?
Happy 20th anniversary to ELF!!! This is one of my favorite Christmas movies of all time!!! 😊
Will Farrell thinking this movie was bad…and Holmes and Watson WASN’T…kind of terrifies me
Tbh I hate to disagree with the other people in the comments, but this movie sounded really bad. It has a few good moments and ideas but overall feels like a cheap cheesy hallmark movie, missing every ounce of comedy and magic from the first one. Not to mention feels like a basic family movie with Christmas and Elf stuff as the D Plot of the movie.
9:07 I can already imagine the Australian equivalent of Santa being like the one depicted In various Australian christmas books wearing a bucket hat with a floral shirt suspendors and flipflops
Honestly this sounds like one of those "so bad it's good" movies. I would have watched it
I feel Elf doesn’t need a sequel. The first one was a classic and it doesn’t have any plot holes.
8:08 I love the scrolling news things mention Will Ferrel turned down a role in the movie adaptation of Elf.
Very coincidental that today you commented this on the video.
This morning I was thinking specifically about the stuff I put in the news bar. I deadass think it’s the most underrated joke I have in any of the videos.
The Elf story is a complete story, no need for a sequel, but I kinda liked the premise of the potential sequel script - just needed more Walter and Jodie, I agree with your points on its flaws
Too bad Will and Jon didn’t get along :(
Wow, I had absolutely no idea what a sequel would've been like. But I'll say that script doesn't sound too great. Elf is better off on its own. After all, not everything needs a sequel.
A claymation Elf movie could be cool. Sorta like the TV special they did. It would be cool if they got Will to do the voice too. But i think it could work without Will.
Elf is best as a stand-alone film. Glad the sequel got canned
Koal's entire sequence sounds right outta the first with the oddness, the rest unfortunately sound really dour and rough on the Buddy character.
Also nothing about his father or brother?
Odd script but id be lying if not curious
It’s wild how well the Koal stuff fits with the first movie, and how mismatched most of the rest of it is
The Koal stuff could have been the focus. Like imagine if Buddy writing the story about Koal leads to increased belief in him and allows him to be unleashed upon the world causing mischief
Elf is better off staying a stand alone movie anyway.
I wholeheartedly agree!
How about as an animated movie? Might be interesting that way as well as keeping the actors separated through voice over roles. They can't argue if they are not in the same room
This is a neat idea!
Or make it an anime mini series
I would love to see Elf 2 happen
Can u do the history of the canceled ironman movie pls❤
There are so many canceled Iron Man movies to choose from! Is there any particular version of the script you'd like to see?
@@HemmasStudios_ yeah i heared there was a cancelled ironman movie from the early 2000s can u cheak that out?
Thank god they didn’t put this out and thank god that will didn’t just make the movie for a 30mil pay check.
Honestly so glad this wasn’t made, it would’ve been pretty bad. Why do so many sequels have to be this way, it completely loses the charm to the first movie. Elf is a perfect movie by itself, it doesn’t need a sequel EVER!
Finally hemmas studios returns
I do like the summit of Santa’s idea.
I've heard about the sequel and Will's reluctance to do it. After watching this video and seeing how the story would unfold, I am really glad it didn't happen. It didn't really bring anything to the original, nor did it seem to have that special magic the first film had. Glad Will passed on this, and ELF is a standalone Christmas classic.
Ha ha. That well made thumbnail says everything. His impartial look sold me. Lol.
I don’t think I would’ve hated the movie, but I’m definitely glad it wasn’t a thing.
Whoever decided that this movie shouldn't be made, thank you. We all owe you one.
I didn’t even know that there was a sequel that was planned
Wow.... that script is just awful! ahahahahhaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! First and foremost I agree that Elf is a stand out movie just on its own and doesn't need any other stories told after. If they had set up some form of conflict or something more than just him and Jovi having a child, then maybe.... but nothing else was set up to be able to make another movie... If they actually made another light hearted script that is also wholesome with some elements of conflict, but not too much stuff going on then maybe... It just seems like they really were trying to force a story there... too much useless crap going on or just forced ideas... I hate the idea of more Santas... but it was a cute idea to have each Santa help out and give some gifts from all over the world...
WOAH WOAH WOAH… HOLD IT… ANTI SANTA?
Let me why I freaked out. Ok so my grandma had a lot of toys and play sets which (among other things) included a Barbie House, a Little North Pole, & a Little people Christmas Train. The Train and North Pole both had Santas, but one had green gloves and the other had purple. Basically, every Christmas Eve my family would get to open one present at my grandma’s house. To pass the time, me and my sister created this universe where a little Barbie doll went to the North Pole. In Year 2, Santa got captured by his evil twin (The one with purple gloves) and the Barbie and elves she met had to save him by riding in a flying bike ET style, and a reindeer. That’s why I freaked out so much.
Good video to watch day after Christmas blues :)
Elf 2 was made. It's called "Step Brothers". He has the same "mom" and everything.
Mary Steenburgen is such an underrated part of both of those movies
@jamesbacon300 I’d have to agree with you. Originally, they were to going to call it Elf 2 but had its changed title to what we know it as today called Step Brothers.
That story never worked. But this new Elf 2 movie in production is gonna be the best Christmas film ever now along with another sequel getting produced as we are present. In Jesus Christs name we pray amen.
I would have loved this movie, especially after I heard it would take place in my home state
Thank GOD they didn't make this! ELF is my favorite movie, and if they made this it would ruin both of them
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It’s nice to be back! Missed you! 🫵
@@HemmasStudios_ :)
@@HemmasStudios_What’s Next After This?
If everything goes right- one more video for 2023, it'll be something Disney-related :)
@@HemmasStudios_ Sweet!
I don’t think it was that bad tbh, I think it should involve his human family more and his daughter like hanging out with them more rather then buddy, and some other minor tweaks, maybe since Walters OG actor passed they could do one of those grandpa passed type things but I’m not sure lol
So glad ive heard someone else make the comment on the simularity between polar express and elf soundtrack
The main theme for both are *so* similar.
I’m kind of mixed about this movie’s plot, but I’m glad it got canceled. It would’ve been just another instance of a sequel not being as good as the original.
Although, the idea of an Elf sequel didn’t *completely* go in vain-Buddy's Musical Christmas, anyone?
I never saw Buddy’s musical Christmas. I never realized it was a sequel.
@@HemmasStudios_ To be fair, it’s not really a sequel. It’s more of a retelling of the original film with elements from the musical.
I like the fan theory that the Lego movie is a secret Elf 2
You need at least two things for a good sequel. One is a good story. Two would be the original cast. We've seen what happened with Home Alone. The first sequel was basically the original's outline but with different details. (Mad magazine's spoof had the homeless lady be the old man in disguise.) Home Alone 3 had some good moments. Home Alone 4 was probably the worst. Future films were slightly better.
I don't blame Will Ferrell for saying no. The film would have needed more original cast members. After all, Buddy wrote for Walter's publishing company. It's unlikely that Jovie would have kept working at the store. Maybe her singing career finally took off. Suppose the director hadn't been attached to a possible sequel. Alas, we'll probably never see one. That may be for the best. Ed Asner and James Caan are now gone. Bob Newhart is still here but getting older, like the rest of us.
Should have done squeal around the Halloween time it would be funny to see how Buddy interacted with Halloween stuff.
I honestly remember seeing posters for this movie in 2004.
This just feels like it would be another Santa Claus sequel.
I'm mixed on this script but it's *miles* better than Santa Clause 3.
As much as I think that Elf doesn't even need a sequel, there are some legitimately good ideas here, but overall there's just... too much going on. It hardly even feels like a real story and is trying to do way too much at once. Having multiple Santas is a neat concept and something I haven't seen many Christmas movies do, but then they also throw in a "father can't connect with his daughter because he embarrasses her too much" plot that feels really generic I'm sorry.
I wish Elf 2 got made back in 2019 or 2020.
I’m sure they’ll make “elf 2” one day with or without the original cast. They already made a sequel to a Christmas story.
Does anyone else remember that really terrible stop-motion Elf reboot we got in 2014 that was based on the stage musical, or am I high?
Just watched it. It should be removed from existence, as it's one of the worst things I've ever watched.
@@ThatLady17 IKR? It’s really unfunny and skips over the best messages/jokes/scenes from the original film. It also has Sia in it 🤢
Walter can’t be in it cause he passed away Rip James Caan😢😢
I would think if they kept the budget down it might be a nice like direct to streaming holiday. Cuz it sounds interesting but if I was a studio I went bet too much on it. And mainly not so much because it isn't as Christmassy but because it sounds too serious when compared to the original movie but as one who loves the movie elf I might find it interesting to see what happened after the first movie.
Good video. 👍
Thank you for the kind words, Gos! Glad you enjoyed!
Elf 2: Cousin Eddy goes to the North Pole
6:00 Buddy going by Brian is interesting as i do recall one source stating Buddy's birthname was William Hobbs i can't remember where i found out that information but i thought it was worth mentioning
I wish Elf 2 would have happened, Will Farrell ruined the chance in the first place,
I love your Channel by the way, can you do a video about Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian ?
I'm glad you enjoy the videos! I can definitely look into Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian and see if there's enough info for a vid!
@@HemmasStudios_did you hear about Beetlejuice 2 finally becoming a thing ? It's coming out next year plus Jenna Ortega is in it
Yeah, I feel like it went into production shockingly fast once Jenna Ortega was cast. That's some star power for ya :P
@@HemmasStudios_yep I think Beetlejuice 2 is also the reason why I heard she won't be in Scream 7