The Beekeepers Knot
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- Опубліковано 4 кві 2019
- Paul Kelly, Research and Apiary Manager, shows how to use the ‘Beekeepers Knot’ - an easy-to tie and untie knot for securing loads.
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I’ve seen many of the component knots before. Lots of similarities to the truckies hitch. However, it’s fantastic to see a different real world application and the specialization for this particular application. This is one of the best knot education videos I’ve seen! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for sharing all these little treaks and stuff that other people call secrets and won't share. This is how the next generation learns about this stuff is by you guys showing it to us and making sure this stuff is able to be passed on. Great Video keep'em coming. Thanks again for sharing this stuff with us it really helps to make things easier.
Thank you Beeman. It's a fun knot to teach people - almost like a magic trick. Pass it on!
@@UoGHoneyBeeResearchCentre Will do. Thanks again
Great video. I’d like to add, if after hooking the rope loop before throwing, you can use a double half hitch with the other end of the rope to the second hook. This way you can tie both rows on the driver side. It makes for quicker tying and untying. Not as many trips back and forth around your truck to get the job done. Great video. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks Paul, you're a great teacher!
You are very welcome. I do enjoy that part of my job. That's kind of you to say so Mark.
Wow! Thank you for sharing this information. I'm a new Beekeeper and that's a great knot to use not only to secure hives. Awesome.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the nice thought!
I really like your smoker holders on the truck... looks cool!
Sometimes its the simplest things that baffle us - and no one thinks its important enough to teach. Thanks Paul
Thanks Julie! This is one of those small skills that I was thrilled to learn and continue to enjoy sharing. Producing a video gave us an opportunity to pass it on and hopefully help to preserve older techniques. Ratchet straps are the new and common way but are less versatile and less skill based.
Loving this latest set of videos!
Thanks Richard. We appreciate your support!
Thank you Mr. Kelley. I just learn something every time I watch your videos. I saved this in my bookmark so I can review it and practice it until I got it down pat. It is no fun when you have a hive full of bees fall over or on the ground due to not having the hive or hives not properly secured. l learned that the hard way many years ago. You are the best!!!!!
Our pleasure! Nice to hear you find our videos educational. Practise the knot over and over for an evenings entertainment and you'll have it for life. A fun knot to share for tying down canoes, ladders and beehives.
As always thanks for all the video you share. Look forward to all the new content, and often re-watch those already posted.
Thanks again for your continued support G Bat.
Truckies use this knot a lot. In fact with a bit of practice it can be done with one hand with ease. Used to use a double knot system to REALY get some down force for certain high loads but have to be careful as it can break some types of rope. Thanks. A lot of people will find this helpful.
Another great video. It's things like this that make life easier. Thanks
You are welcome Stephen. We try to pass on useful information so appreciate your positive feedback.
I'd seen that knot used before but never knew how it was done.
I do now!
Thanks for sharing the method.
Enjoying the new series of videos you're making. Learning a lot. Thanks!
You are very welcome Pat. Great to hear this video caught your interest. I wasn't sure how a 15 minute video on one knot would go over! Thanks for your encouraging comments about our videos.
Thanks Paul, when I was a teenager working with my father hauling lumber from the sawmill we used to tie rope just like that.
It brings me memories (Auld lang syne) of working hard with my father to make ends meet.
Boy, I sure enjoyed hearing your memories and how we can connect with something as simple as an amazing knot! Thanks Mark.
Never watched a video with a man making knots and not got bored, but you did the trick, nice video and a great knot.
I did wonder about the boredom factor... 15 minutes of knot tying. Thanks so much for your positive response!
That flat bed is nice. I think I'm going to get my 1/2 ton pickup outfitted with a bed like that this summer I hope.
It sure helps. I wish all trucks were made this way. I had a local welder make this flatbed up 20 years ago and it's been on two trucks. I see many different manufactures in the US make off the shelf models now. I really like low hinged side racks. You can still tie a load with them and they contain all the bits and pieces that aren't tied down.
I haven't had a chance to look through the channel yet, but I'd love to see a detail of the way the smokers are mounted. I need to replace my standard bed with a flat bed, and am working on ways to keep a lighted smoker safely stored between apiaries (perhaps with a sign telling folks that, "Thanks, but no, my truck is not on fire."). As I currently drive a diesel, fuel vapors shouldn't be an issue!
Very good how-to video and an excellent pearl of beekeeping. Thank you Paul.
You are very welcome Marcel. Thanks for the nice way of putting your generous thoughts.
Thank you very much for all your great information. With every video I watch of yours it is always a learning experience. Everyone always picks on me thru the years for all the knots I tie I am very picky about my knots an tiring down loads . I have hauled heavy equipment for years . The way I look at it my loads will not fall off on my family or yours . This is a new knot to me THANKS I will use it . Keep up the great video’s.
In Australia we call that a Truckies Hitch. It is a really useful knot to know.
Great details, thank you!
Thank you Paul , great information. From my scouting days the knot looks the "timber hitch" used to drag large logs .
My pleasure Dennis. I've been delighted to hear of the many ways this knot is used! Thanks.
Always so practical and helpful
Thanks James!
Being a fisherman I appreciate a man that can tie a decent knot; with that said, the invention of ratchet straps was a game changer securing cargo. The ease of attaching two hooks and cranking a leaver, exerting minimum effort to acquire exceptional force to hold cargo in place. Brilliant! Maybe a "how to" video would teach common folks how to use a ratchet strap. While less thought is required vs rope, as simple as they are at securing a load, I see ladders, lumber and the likes flying off trucks on the highway, maybe throw in a minute of discussion on cargo nets.
Great video, I love learning new knots.
Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. One on ratchet straps and cargo nets would be good too.Thanks for the suggestion. I find ropes more enjoyable to work with and way more versatile when dealing with small scale loads - including ladders and canoes etc. Don't get me wrong, ratchet straps are fantastic and definitely have their place. Part of the reason I did this video was to, in a small way, help preserve this traditional knot.
Wonderful tip a lot of people including myself will learn and probably use forever! Thanks very much!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Our pleasure Randy. Practise it over and over for an evenings entertainment and you'll have it for life. A fun knot to share for tying down canoes, ladders etc.
Terrific ..so well presented....we call it the truckies knot here in Australia, has held down many a load
Thanks Linton! That sounds like an Aussie name for it.
@@UoGHoneyBeeResearchCentre Called the Truckers knot here on the West Coast of the USA as well.
This is an excellent video. Good to know. Can use these knots in so many applications. Thanks.
Thanks again Barbara! It is a very versatile knot. I use in in many non beekeeping applications too.
Good stuff. I remember my uncle tying those knots on his bee truck when I was younger. Then ratchet straps were invented.....not too many people know how to tie knots anymore.
Thanks lindnova
Nice that you have that memory. They are almost like a magic trick. I know ratchet straps are taking over but they are less versatile and less of a skill. Learn it and share it and we'll keep the skill going!
I worked in theatre for years loading trucks. Here in Australia we call this a `truckie's hitch`. The hooks are a great idea, I may have to do that on my ute.
Thanks Stuart. This is a well loved knot with many names! Nice to hear from you in Australia.
Thank you. Very informative .
Our pleasure Gord. Thanks for your positive comment.
Very useful!
Thanks!
The beekeeper's knot is knot easy! Cool video!
Thanks Stan. Practise makes perfect. I practised for hours the day I was taught this knot. It's 'knot' too hard!
Nice work. Thanks ahgaine
You are welcome Jake! Thanks for your comment.
I learned this as a kid delivering bags of carrots to horses. I was told it is the Dutchman's knot. You can impress anybody with this one.
Hi Sibe
That's great! Thanks for the new story to tell the next time I teach this knot. I impressed my girlfriend by teaching her this knot and now she's been my wife for 28 years!
This is great idea thanks for sharing
Glad you think so! You are most welcome.
I used to work in construction and had to transport materials. People here use a similar knot to secure the cargo when they only have ropes. It is advisable to put something on the edges on top, in order to distribute the pressure, if you pull to strong you can break the boxes easily. Thanks for the video!
Thanks you Marco. Nice to hear from folks who appreciate this knot. A small bond across the distances. :)
Trucker's hitch, learned that almost 35 yrs ago. Good to see someone passing it on👍.
Thanks Joe. Nice to hear this knot with many names is recognized and appreciated!
A truckers hitch is a bit different. This beekeeper’s knot makes for a quicker release.
Thats awesome paul thank you for sharing .
Konrad
You are very welcome Konrad!
Awesome Mr. Kelly: you would have made a fine sailor!
Except I'm really only good at a few knots! Thanks though.
It looks to me like a variation of what I learned (back in the days when sheeting & roping of the loads was normal, which may show my age) as the truckers' hitch. A heavy tarp was used over the load before roping, to cope wiith typical UK weather.
The tension you can apply is huge, especially if you use several in succession to tighten each other. I've seen a fairly new (as in, just broken in and supple) 1"rope snapped by overtightening. And yeah, tying the corners in is vital - even more so at the front of the load unless you have a full height board there. Braking forces are almost always greater than accelerative ones.
BTW, if instead if holding the free end of the rope in the other hand, you just hold it and the "standing" end with the knot in tightly, the friction on each other will allow you to put your whole weight into the bight to tighten it.
In those days truckers, like seamen (although needing a far smaller range of knots) were judged as much by their rope handling skills as by their actual driving. Then they all started using ratchet straps, which are far less versatile, and rope handling skills were lost in about a decade.
I guess not many things are carried in stacks on flatbeds these days, but the time was where everything was, and that extended well into the age of the semi-trailer (or articulated lorry as we know it here). It had good points for versatility in general haulage, as you didn't need specialist trucks or semi-trailers for each type of load.
Hi Phil
Thanks you for the very informative comments. I really enjoyed reading your observations and experiences. Part of the reason I did the video was to try and pass this knot on to another generation. I really enjoy teaching all our young staff this knot. Skills change over time but I hate to see us lose so many hand skills. The students teach me all kinds of things too!
It is a truckers hitch also known as a cargo knot it originates from shipping been used for centuries
This was taught to me over 40 years ago as the "Truckers Hitch."
I'm hearing lots of colourful names for this knot! One version of the truckers hitch is definitely inferior as it really binds up but this version is great. Nice to hear you learned it awhile back it. Now that I do the math it's been that Iong for me too - yikes! Pass it on...
Otherwise known as a sheepshank. Anyone in transort will know it, or should. 3rd generation apiarist and had never heard of a bee/beekeeper knot. But I know plenty of people know zip, so very good instruction vid.
Hi David
I've heard of sheepshank knots but didn't recognize this was the same knot. A quick google search of sheepshank shows a similar knot for shortening rope but knots are like flowers - they have lots of names. Others have let me know it's a dutch knot for tying carrots bags, a truckers knot ( the common variation is a bad knot), a chicken knot and so on. So great to hear this struck a cord with all of us knot lovers!
Who'da thought I would get so much useful information from a video on rope knots. Thank you again for sharing your info with us all.
Our pleasure B & K!
VERY GOOD
Shucks..,Thanks BB.
Excelent
Thanks!
Truckies in Australia call it the 'truckie's hitch' or ''sheepshank'... Been around for ever, very very effective lashing... I've been using it for more than 40 years...
Hi Rex
It's great to hear from all the folks that appreciate this knot. Almost like a magic trick when you undo it! Lots of different names.There's a common knot here also called a truckers knot that is very hard to untie so I call the one in the video a 'beekeepers knot' when talking to other beekeepers. I hear from you and others that it is commonly called a 'sheepshank'. Maybe that's the original name?
Great video, that knot is actually called the truckie knot.
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Thanks! The knot with lots of names! Someone from Australia also called it a truckie knot - maybe you're from down under too. The best name I've heard so far is the 'chicken knot'. ( for tying chicken boxes down) Cheers.
Hi Paul, I'm actually from the UK. I am a beekeeper but on a small scale so I don't move my hives about.Regards Nigel.
Great video. I know the knot as a "truckers hitch".
Thanks Dave
I've been hearing lots of different names but 'truckers knot or truckers hitch' seem to be the most common. It's nice to hear there are still a few of us that know this knot!
strops with hooks and ratchets here in NZ, no knots no buggering around. By the time you do one throw over , our truck with 50+ hives has gone . ... interesting knot though
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Was taught a different knot in the commercial yard I work in that was called the beekeepers knot.
greetings from peace river alberta!!!! ( i live 1 hour from the town)
Hi There in the Peace! I had a fantastic year working in Hines Creek, north of Fairview. Fred had 3,000 hives so we did most things thousands of times. A great way to learn. You are pretty well in beekeeping heaven there!
Trucker's Hitch indeed. A number of loop knots can be used for the upper loop I prefer the Alpine Butterfly. A butterfly loop or figure 8 loop would be more advantageous in my opinion as you don't have to keep tension while you're preparing rest of hitch.
Huh. Never heard of an alpine butterfly loop.That sounds interesting - I'll look that one up. Thanks LoneStarGold.
used by truck drivers for years and the second knot is a clove hitch
im more of a rachete strap guy but i dont keep bee's yet. would like to see more about your truck. i find purpose built vehicles interesting
Me too regarding purpose built trucks. That would be a good topic for a video. I'll add it to the list. :)
In Georgia we call that a "chicken knot". It was (and still is) used to secure chicken boxes on trucks.
Perfect! I guess we all add our industry name to the knot. Lots of colourful names- just like the flowers our bee work on. Nice to hear it's still being used as boring old ratchet straps are taking over. It's hard to even like the name 'ratchet strap'!
Now, that handling of ropes is part of what some people call "good seamanship" ;)
Is there some sailing experiance behind the scenes (?).
Great video again! Very informative, very usefull knowledge.
Hi pluki
I wish! Beekeeping and sailing happen at the same time of year. My pastimes are all winter related. Nice to hear you found the video informative. Practise the knot and pass it on...
@@UoGHoneyBeeResearchCentre Greetings from Poland :)
Hi In Poland pluki!
Thank you for the video. Very interested in the question: what determines the diostatic number in honey. From the culture from which nectar is taken for honey or from the strength of the family.
Hi There
I'd like to answer your question but I don't understand it. Cheers!
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Beekeepers' knot? I have been driving semis for over 30 years and it was the first knot I was taught for using them on flatbeds. I have only been a beekeeper for 30 days!
There is very little new in an old trade.
I was taught that it was called a sheepshank. It's a nautical knot that's been around at least since the heyday of the British Navy.
@@duanebarrett2409 It is not actually a sheepshank, although it looks much the same, you put an extra turn on the rope so it won't shake loose if the tension comes off the rope. It is used as a pulley, whereas a sheepshank is used to shorten a rope.
Hi Trevor
It's been fun to hear all the different trades that use this fantastic knot! Have fun with your bees.
A double half hitch is a clove hitch. The beekeeper knot is actually called a "sheep shank", what Aussies call a truckers hitch.
Thanks for sharing. Who made the bed for the truck?
Hi Bob E.
I had it made up by a local welder. It's been on two trucks now. I see lots of options now and I wish all trucks came this way! ALUMA in the US makes a great flatbed.
Paul did I hear that correctly - Fred Smith - California knot - while you were in the Peace River area of Northern Alberta. Specifically would that be the Manning/North Star area???
Hi BJ
Very close but no. I worked for the Fred Smith that had an operation in Hines Creek Alberta, just north of Fairview Alberta. This was in 1981. I seem to recall hearing of another Fred Smith beekeeper in Manning. I'm very curious to hear what your connection is?
@@UoGHoneyBeeResearchCentre I went to school with his children.
You need to persuade Fairview College/Grande Prairie College to implement a program similar to the UoG where they could expand on the great material / educational program from UoG with adaptations for the colder Alberta - Northern Climate. As always great material - straight to the point with no Fluff added to make a video longer than needed.
Hi BJ
It's too bad the Fairview commercial bee program that was running back in the 80's and 90's isn't still going. It was the best practical bee program going and a lot of western and international beekeepers got their start there. There have been attempts to get it going again but it didn't get much interest. Too much money in the oilfields to attract young participants was what I heard. There is a small one in BC and another one in Niagara Ontario. Nobody has matched that original program at Fairview yet. We do what we can here in Guelph. I really appreciate your generous comments.
If you don't have a loop in the end of your rope you will need to tie a bowline or a noose
Regard frommen Germany, we us security rops. Thank you
@482mm Spannendes Thema, ladungssicherung. Ich kann nur Knoten vom Segeln.... :)
There's more than one way to skin a cat. I'm a trucker and for tarping I use the 'Beehive" hitch. Faster than this when you have 40 ropes to tie, uses mechanical advantage and of course falls apart when the tension is released. The staying power of it is exceptional. A very reliable knot. Also can use several loops to double the pull if needed.
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Hi There
Thanks that was interesting to see your knot tying demonstration. Well done! It is a very similar knot to the one I demonstrated. I like your one handed clove hitch around the rail.
You mite want to check with the department of transportation. Rope has been banned from securing loads a long time ago. This would be considered a unsafe load, a pretty nice ticket also.
They use a lot of duct tape up there in canadia. Splurged on real rope.
@@mikeries8549 hahaha!
It's not nice to call someone a mite. Especially among beekeepers.
I don't have rabbits, so I just use the Truckers knot.
Haha. A good old knot...whatever you call it!
Dad used to say 1 half hitch will hold anything 2 half hitches will hold the world.
Thanks for sharing your dad's expression Mark! He was right.
Typo in title
Got it! Thanks Hayden. :)
now they use rachet straps does the same job
I still like ropes better! Ratchet straps are easier to learn how to use but less versatile.
I prefer ratchet straps...but thanks!!!!
some of us do not have access to straps and cant afford them.
Ratchet straps and ropes both have their place on our trucks. I find ropes more versatile and better for smaller loads but with ropes you really have to know what you are doing for securing a load safely. Ratchet straps are taking over so part of the reason I did the video was to pass on the rope skills in some small way. I anticipated your comment while doing the video BFA. :) You are most welcome as usual.
Good point Life on Sibuyan
I hadn't thought about it from that perspective. I suppose ropes are more commonly available in some locations. I had to look up where Sibuyan is - it looks like a beautiful location.
@@UoGHoneyBeeResearchCentre It s extremely beautiful. People still live very simply in the mountain (indigenous/tribal area). I would love it if you and/or your students came out and taught us beekeeping. After you take a motorcycle as far as you can (1/2 hour from town by motor), it is a 2 hour walk up the mountain to reach us. I have started a "Pananguintingan Cluster Outreach" lead by a local tribesman. We have several people interested in raising bees that would love to attend your workshops here, or. . . if you or your students just want a life-changing experience/vacation, please let me know. It really is peaceful and beautiful. Thanks for all you do! Keep posting - I will keep learning!
Hi THere!
I missed seeing this reply until now. Thanks for describing your location. It sounds idyllic! I appreciate your kind offer for a visit. Who knows, maybe someday. Right now I'm focused on building a new bee research, education/ visitor centre. We'll stay in touch by UA-cam comments for now. Thanks again for your support.
truckers hitch
Soooo - A timber bowline on a bight double half hitch knot?!!! LOLOL!!
ratchet strap works better and is faster
Hi There
I use both. Once you know the knot its faster and more versatile. Straps are stronger though
Straps are good for one pass over the load. Ropes at least two so less handling. Ropes do angles better and are much less expensive. I'll admit that ratchet straps have taken over but we did the video to archive an older technique and for anyone who might find it useful.
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Umm, Ratchet straps?
They work to but I find them slower and less versatile.
@@UoGHoneyBeeResearchCentre cool, love your videos, keep them coming.
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When the Boy Scouts were still about teaching boys boy things.
Hi Russ
I never got to go to Boy Scouts but do appreciate knots. The women at work seem to be doing better at remembering this knot!
@@UoGHoneyBeeResearchCentre I don't doubt it. Both men and women will put more effort into teaching women. It's completely natural. It's called gynocentrism.
Interesting. I did put some enthusiasm into teaching this knot to my girlfriend. It worked - she's been my wife for 28 years!
@@UoGHoneyBeeResearchCentre Sounds like you tied the right knot. :D
Indeed! :D
Why not just use ratchet straps?
Hi John
Please see the response below to LifeIn Apple River. Thanks.
I hate to tell you that is not a beekeeping knot it's a cargo knot used in shipping for centuries
Haha. Yes and apparently it's a truckie knot in Australia, a chicken knot in the UK and has many other names. I guess we all claim it as our own. Such a useful knot!
nothing special... Just a truckies hitch or half sheep shank :)