Faster than diesel? We do a battery swap on a big electric truck!
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2023
- Electric trucks take too long to recharge, right? Well, not if you swap out the batteries!
By using battery swapping, a two hour recharge has now been cut down to the same time it takes to fill up a diesel truck: five minutes! (or eight minutes, if you get in the way of the crane operator!).
Plus, with large New Zealand companies taking the technology onboard, and with new, automated systems about to hit our shores, this is only the beginning, as Gav found out when speaking to Jamie Ryan from ETRUCKS.
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Upstage Bobby on Fully Charged, he drove a wimpy excavator, get behind the wheel of that loader asap....
Makes sense to me. Have big batteries, charge slower (or at night on cheaper rates) and just swap batteries in Hamilton, Taupo, Bulls etc. As trucks make their way from Auckland to Wellington. Even a hybrid makes sense to me. Have a truck use a bit of diesel but capture the energy on the downhills and slowdowns instead of sitting on the brakes/engine all the way down the country.
not really for a truck this size because of the engine needed to charge the battery like a phev. Thats why hybrids only appear in mostly Cars.
Not really; there is a maximum energy flow *for each cell*.
There are more cells in these batteries, so we can charge faster with that same proportion. Meaning, as long as the cables and other infrastructure are there, charging takes not too long
Once upon a time, NZ was 20 years behind Australia, the tables have truly turned!
Ummm... Vehicle to load? You know just in case, on the off chance, your city has multiple environmental emergencies like flooding and tropical cyclones two weeks apart. Those batteries could do a **** tonne of recovery work.
Would love to see an actual race between the battery swap and a diesel fill.
Does it matter if the battery swap is faster than the vehicle is unloaded and reloaded at a warehouse?
@@JohnR31415 that's why you have races vs simply recording track times...
@@Telcontarnz F1 tyre changes never used to be that quick, because the pit stop was limited by fuel loading - so there was no benefit to going faster.
The same applies here. If you’re really that concerned about swap time then you must be switching trailers, so the obvious solution is to have the battery mounted to the trailer…
This is more simple than Niu Car Swap Battery 👍👍👍
Excellent video Gavin. Short, different but very interesting to see. Want to see the robot swapping set up next !! Yes the boys will be bricking it with the camera filming them. I use overhead gantry cranes in my work and they would be just praying not to get that 2 tonnes swinging on the hook and bashing the cab on film!
Absolutely fantastic! The future is looking bright!
What a truly brilliant innovation. Great video too. Love the enthusiasum you bring to these videos Gavin.
Wow, had no idea this was happening already here in Auckland. Good on yous.
2.8 ton right behind the cab and no cab guard, be interested to get work safes view on that.
Given the quoted figures to do my old logging run would take 6 battery swaps a day, that means having to go to the swap station__ more lost time. Probably looking at a 30% productivity loss.
EV trucks have a place, maybe short line haul; between bases, but seriously Auckland Hamilton and then a swap🥴. Be great round town though, especially with all the stops at lights and I am sure pedxs would appreciate the lack of exhaust. Clearly a lot more development required.
... Very good point about the battery position & driver safety.
There's fire risk too.
Very different configuration here though presumably similar batteries to a Cement Australia Janus conversion truck that just burned up.
Good way to swap
This is the way. Hopefully innovations in battery tech, including modular cells and other form factor improvements, will allow for faster and less labor-intensive battery swapping at truck stops. That would solve a lot of issues for places like the US where forcing trucks and other vehicles to sit and charge causes bottlenecks.
Janus Electric in Australia is also doing battery swaps on Prime movers, but they are road train rated 90-106tn truck. 720hp with a 16spd auto shift conversion. Check out their videos on UA-cam. They now replace the fuel tanks on the sides with a bracket to hold batteries on both sides, so the weight is down low and at the moment done with a forklift. They are also looking at having a similar robotic station to do the swaps, sometime late or early next year. Interesting to see different companies trying similar approaches but with a slightly different design. 👌👍
... Like with all these Lithium batteries, fire risk is likely more serious than the present conventional wisdom.
@@kradius2169 They use lithium ion batteries that love to catch fire, the people in this video uses lithium iron phosphate batteries which seem to be a lot safer.
@@kradius2169 Yeah they need to change the battery chemistry to stop the fires from occurring, same as they are starting to do with cars and pickups. Then the whole system starts making more sense.
@@Kni0002 ... The LFP / LiFePO4 chemistry still a thermal Runaway risk, sans the toxicity of Cobalt. ... U2oob: LiFePO4 HighTechLab
Interesting that the truckies have some competitiveness going in getting the best performance from these E-trucks.
Also having a big rig using regen has got to beat cutting in the Jacobs. I'm sure people living near busy highways will sleep better as a result.
I really hope so, i know we need trucks but they can be soooo loud and annoying
Love the NZ thought process on electric vehicles! Keep up the great progress on changing the way the world drives. Rented an EV on our recent visit to Aotearoa and had no issues charging throughout the country. Kudos to the Kiwis!😊
Your channel is so special, I like it.
Fascinating thanks
Fascinating video. Thanks. Liked and subscribed. Best wishes from an EV driver in the UK. Thanks again!
Awesome!
Brilliant 👍 👏
good change for NZ's transport enery style
Great vid, really interesting stuff. Just like popping the battery out of my drone. Well, you know, kinda..
This is a year ago.
Have you gone back to see the automated battery swap?
Isn't it top heavy?
If you have to disconnect the tractor from the trailer to do the swap, as you show here, it's a lot more than 5 minutes.
This is just a bodged-together proof of concept using tools that weren't designed for the job. Version 1 of the real thing will take care of obvious problems like that one, and versions 2 and 3 will start to deal with all the weird stuff that happens, like a mother duck leading her ducklings onto the battery mounting after the battery has been lifted off, or a freak flood washing the truck and trailer out, or the driver having a heart attack on the spot, or whatever. And be cheaper and faster.
NZ is years ahead of Australia in the EV progress but Australia has had a Luddite government for the last nine years.Well done Gavin.
Centre of gravity is really high, has it been crash tested?
How much does it cost please ?
Did it mention on video how far? 282kwh is that Auckland Hamilton return then swap or swap at both ends?
What’s a baddery
Why don’t the have the battery built on the loaded trailer? Have the considered that? And could you please tell what would be the pro and cons of having it that way? Thanks
Noone's making the surely obvious mental leap to electric airplanes aka aeroplanes. Would solve the slow turn around/same-day return flight or range-doubling or tripling challenge. Perfect for Eviation's 9-passenger 250 mile/charge 'Alice" e-plane?
Paul G
Battswap is obviously the future, if EVs are to go mass market. Selling vehicles without the battery cost built in is the way to make them cheap enough for everyone.
... With the fire risk & other issues, insurance alone would probably kill these EV trucks off.
That is, unless maybe King Chuckles & Laddy Greta are able to indemnify all participants with the $100 Trillion Net Zero Fund.
Imagine one trucking company siding with one swappable battery design and another with a different one thereabt locking out independent self-owned drivers. There really needs to be some standardization if we want battery swapping not just defacto standardization.
Which company is it
not counting for the reroute the drivers need to take to reach the only swap station… best just use megachargers.
How top heavy dose it make it
... Good point. Slow as she goes around curves, especially bobtailing.
A Janus battery conversion in Melbourne just burned up, presumably thermal runaway.
Very cool. What kind of range did they get from the 60% of the battery?
120kms from Auckland to Hamilton.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
it happened at least 2 years ago in China
Assuming 12kWh a average you could run an apartment for 20 days!!!! cool.
You guys are so far ahead of us in Australia
They have this in Australia but the range on the batteries is too small.
A Local doing around 3000 klm Monday to Friday.
@@zagan1 is “A Local” the business name?
... Janus? They just had a truck burn up though.
Shit yeah. This is the goods.
I guess there are emissions but hidden away....
Oh no but it does not work this cant be true Nooooooo
Get an Edison truck
Dunno, seems inefficient use of batteries, they're just sitting there, despite being the most expensive component.
Anyway, can't wait for the front loader video, battery powered heavy machines are lit (pun intended, but hopefully never happens... the catching on fire part, I mean)
What are chances of fire. One of the Janus cement truck has thermal run away and cause immense damage. I’m not against electrifications. Feel there has to be a preventative and or recovery system when this happens because the nay sayers will ruin you
You can bet u can fill up diesel faster 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not the point
My opinion, Fast Charging is the best way than swap battery. i mean not only truck should be charge but also the driver need charge with some rest so that truck and driver in the maximum prime after that for continue the journey
Guys does any of you do a truck business?This all is unreal bullshit to do.
The owner of that Truck is Mainfreight , probably the biggest trucking company in NZ and is also international so not unreal BS this is just part of their R&D .
... Anything's possible with a few bucks from the King Chuckles $100 Trillion Net Zero Fund.
So what would be the yearly maintenance on a Electric yard mule plus a battery replacement
Imagine what happens if one of those catches fire in a tunnel.
because a diesel truck catching fire in a tunnel would be so pleasant ?
@@Zarphag... Lithium ion fire much more toxic. Only a matter of time. Probably already happened somewhere.
Elon Musk is behind again.
behind a battery? I didnt spot him , good eyes!
With all the lithium batteries catching fire Tesla's catching fire now laptop battery recently caught fire on an airplane. I can't imagine what one of those would look like out on a highway catching fire total devastation. As you can tell I am not an EV person no thank you.
good job diesel and petrol dont burn!
Fire service stats out of USA suggest BEVs are 10 times less likely to catch fire than an internal COMBUSTION engine. I guess the clue is in the name. No hot exhaust system, simplified cooling, less breaking heat, less roll over risk and not needing a literal explosion to drive them.
@@gpsfinancial6988 Those same states will tell you how much harder EV fires are to deal with.
... Janus electric truck fire just shut down an entire side of a major Melbourne highway for at least eight hours.
As large Lithium battery fires apparently burn at ~5,000F, roughly twice the melting point of steel, and the battery was something like 600kWh, ~6 Model S Plaids, the pavement under the truck would likely need repair too.
But what are you charging them with? What is the point of this? It makes freight to expensive. All these batteries and stuff cause more pollution than diesel!
NZ is 87% renewable powered ?
This will be close to 100% powered by hydro, geothermal, solar and wind energy. Fuel cost will be about 80% less than diesel. There is a reason the companies trialing these trucks are buying more and it's not just because the drivers prefer them.
🤣 dude shut up
@@simond7582 Dude piss off
Everything in this place is brand-spanking-new. SO, there's no hard-won work here as of yet.
I bet all this crap goes to auction within 3 years.