With the recent 1.1 patch of DBFZ the hitbox of ground and air bomb was increased so you guys shouldn't have any trouble linking that 236H (or 236M) anymore.
Are you sure it's possible at all? I've been trying to learn this combo all day and I get as far as the 236H and they're always JUST out of reach. Really, really frustrating.
If you can't hear the bomb among all the ruckus,watching the combo counter is a good alternative. At 1:13 T.Gohan dashes in right as the number changes. thought I should post it in case people didn't notice.
Thanks for this. The fighterz community desperately needs more character specific tech videos like this one. It was very well made and has good depth, so props.
Damn not gonna lie this is a really well done tutorial. Actually gives good execution based descriptions on how to adjust so that the combo can be done by someone who's never touched the character.
If you're like me and really struggling to hit the bomb loop there is a nice combo you can do off of the first bomb into more damage if you tack on an extra bar for a level 1 super, albeit a bit less corner carry. The combo is: 2M, M, J, M, L, L, J, M, S, 2S, Super Dash, L, M, 236H, 2M, M, 214M, 236LM - for 4765 damage minus the level 1 super and 5675 damage with it. This combo is waaay easier to hit consistently! Added note: If your super bar is dry and you can't hit the 236H you can do 236M into vanish instead for 4694/5604 damage as the medium lightning legs will build you 1 bar, enough for the vanish.
Thank you so much. I already achieve the full combo a few times in training but the timing is so hard I was thinking I would never be able to use it in "real combat", especially with the internet delay. This version is far more "usable". And because I like how community helps each other, I'd like to add my own part. If you don't intend to use a lvl 1 super at the end, you could simply end the combo with 236H, 2M, M, 236M for 4950 dmg and 1 bar that will be 80% replenished.
Thank you for making this tutorial, brah. Nice breakdown. Very easy to understand, too. This will definitely help some of those hits I land count. Been trying out T.Gohan, but I'm just straight lost out there, lol.
Very cool, it's clear and precise and I love the fact that it's not just another guy boasting about his shiny combo. You're talented and you help other players to follow your path, that's something I respect a lot. Now about the combo itself, it's really awesome that Gohan can pull off the bomb loop against any character but I still think it's very complicated and will probably cause people to drop the combo too often while under pressure (I mean more often than other characters with their basic J.cancel simple BnB). It's cool for practicing combos/timing but Idoubt it will be reliable on real combat (and I hope top players will make me lie on this in the future).
Thank you so much for this. Actually what I was trying all day today and couldn't but finally got it. Also, it helps that my second jump cancel was up corner instead of up.
To anyone having a bit of trouble landing the 236H in the combo; after landing the super dash try slightly delaying the M, it seemed to work a little more consistently for me
Like others, I have found it rather challenging to land the 236H after landing. I have included a clip of me landing it fairly easily in the corner, but whiffing consistently mid-screen. ua-cam.com/video/SqnAVhuwGo0/v-deo.html - Any pointers you have on how to alleviate this would be appreciated. - I tried delaying the post SD M as you suggested but I'm still whiffing, would you mind looking at this and tell me where I can improve? Thanks.
Okay, its hard for me to tell whats wrong just from looking but maybe try delaying the super dash a little bit so that you're lower to the ground by the time you hit the super dash
Np! Same tbh he looks free on the outside but he's pretty damn technical and takes a lot of lab work to get used to! Does pay off if I do say so myself.
Thank you I loved this video it helped me a lot understanding more this combo and how to do it. Do more DBFZ video like this and I'll follow you for sure bro ^^
I’m not entirely sure it’s possible, have practiced it sparingly for weeks and it never connects. I wonder if it was nerfed or something. Which would be dumb because the last character that needs a need should be Teen Gohan.
Im not sure if you can help but: Ive nailed down part 1 and 2 but when I go for qcfH at the end, i am just slightly out of range. Ive tried delaying the dash more but I still seem to be just out of range for the qcfH.
in the meantime, im subbing an assist to keep the combo going...but then at this point i dont see a real difference between using the bomb loop vs. the universal assist combo
Thanks for the support guys, appreciate it! If you haven't already, check the description, I forgot a small point for the combo. If I come up with anything new, I'll be sure to upload, if you guys want more T. Gohan stuff in the meantime? Check out the doc I've been working on, link's in the description. Peace!
rawkid360 any idea why my 236H doesn't have enough range? I literally come up short on range. Can't figure it out. I feel like I'm delaying the Super Dash as much as I can
Another clarification, if you're unsure you're gonna be able to land 236H, you can always use a Beam Assist like Goku Black (fuck this guy), Goku, or Tien have, it's far more safer to do in online matches, since delaying the dragon dash can be painful having some frame delay.
is an awesome looking combo, but chances of dropping this online are high, also you can get similar damage with a regular route into super which is way safer but for the swag? yeah, it looks amazing :)
tbh the part that I'm having the hardest part with is the first segment. On Kid Buu and Frieza, the timing is much harsher than on, for example, Android 18. After the jM>L>L>jM, the timing for it seems to become so much more difficult.
I Just picked Up the game again and I'm interested to use my old team again with TGohan. Is there any assist that do you recommend? I'd like to try Baseku as Anchor, how does it perform? It has good approach, good combo synergy? Which would be a good third character if TGohan-Baseku core is good?
Thanks for the video Rawkid360. It really helped me getting the timing on that second J.2s loop. I do have a question about air dashing after the second J.2s into a 3rd J.2s and then into the 236H . I seen it in another video but can't replicate due to not knowing the timing. Help would be appreciated. Thank you
A really informative vid. Although theres's something that still bothers me: I still can't find whats the difference between T. Gohan's 2S/J2S and 3S/J3S. Any chance you could tell me that?
I have a few problems with this combo 1) I have problems landing the second bomb loop without. My opponent will just recover before I hit him 2) Even if I did manage to land the 2nd bomb loop by luck, my oppenent AWLAYS recovers before I can land the 236 M or H.
Hi, great video man I really want to play Teen Gohan. Your video is very clear but I still dont know what im doing wrong. I uploaded a video of me trying the loop a couple times. I'm dropping the 3rd part. Any tips would be awesome. Am I just not doing part 3 fast enough?
Sorry if this is a dumb question but can this combo be done if you're somewhere else in the screen? (Like the corner or something) or would that mess up the bombs?
I tried contacting you on discord but it doesnt work since we don't share a server or anything the likes I've got the problem that after the second part, my attack just doesnt reach far enough to hit. How can I fix that?
The first part only seems to work for me if I delay the j.M and not do it instantly like the video says. The j.S will completely wiff under them if I do the j.M straight away. Any tips?
i could time the airdash and it's great, but i struggling with the first double jump, most of the times gohan falls after the second j.L and i dont know if i am going too slow or too fast.
Hello man Awesome video !! I wanted to know something cause i'm practicing...Hahah if i do : 2M > M > J > L > M > L > J.C > L > L > S > 2S > Dash > L > S > 2S > and at this moment i can't reach the 236H. Is it because I hit to many times before, or just that my timing isn't good ? Thanks again for the video it's awesome !
Well you're first off not doing the universal air combo which means that combo you're doing will drop on small characters. Second, yeah, you aren't delaying the Super Dash or j.S.
I, for the love of god, cannot connect that 236H I really tried for hours, the rest of the combo flows nice, but I REALLY can't land that no matter what...
I hate kid buu so here, have a like. jl,m,l jc, jm,s,d+s also works for the initial bomb on small chars. It's a bit more forgiving to land than jm,l,l, jc jm.
having trouble understanding the j.M j.L j.L JC JM and 236H since it's my first time playing dbfz on the ps4. can anyone explain the meaning of these notations in ps4 button form?
Would you be open to making Gohan pressure vids or just how to approach neutral w him? Since he’s stubby and requires assist in that way more than other chars
Roelant Bergen Funny you say that I was thinking about making a pressure video with him next lol. & yeah approach is pretty tough, reading the google doc will probably help you on that
Works on every character or it depends wich one is? I know the easiest one is Cell to do this combo but dont know with this metod can works on every character
Can't land the 236H, Sometimes I do the imput and nothing happens. I must be doing it too fast (I guess) but if I delay it any more it just misses. Do you have to delay anything besides the SD?
It's a cool combo. But I'll probably never use this. I'd rather spend 1 assist to extend the combo easily and get guaranteed damage instead of gambling if I land that last hit.
i keep missing the 5S *i think* by shooting volleys instead of the quick single shot causing it to go off late. I turn on the input display and see clearly that I input S > 2S, but over and over the 5S misses too late. Not sure wtf I'm doing wrong
With the recent 1.1 patch of DBFZ the hitbox of ground and air bomb was increased so you guys shouldn't have any trouble linking that 236H (or 236M) anymore.
Are you sure it's possible at all? I've been trying to learn this combo all day and I get as far as the 236H and they're always JUST out of reach. Really, really frustrating.
You're probably not delaying your j.S and last bomb.
rawkid360 How long should I delay it? The timing is killing me.
Hi, im new to all the fighter games and dbfz. What is 256H?
Having same issue... I have issue linking with the qcf heavy. Any idea? Mine is using one meter but does not go as far as yours...
If you can't hear the bomb among all the ruckus,watching the combo counter is a good alternative. At 1:13 T.Gohan dashes in right as the number changes. thought I should post it in case people didn't notice.
Thanks for this. The fighterz community desperately needs more character specific tech videos like this one. It was very well made and has good depth, so props.
Andre Yu Tiamco Appreciate it man thanks (= & yeah I totally agree. Was looking for stuff for Gotenks setups and couldn't find shit xD.
When it comes to these combo videos I find text to be clearer and more deliberate than voiced combo videos. THANK YOU. Love this presentation. Subbed
Surprisingly the hard oart of the combo is hitting that jump kick when u land
You just stomped me on ranked man, you're disgustingly good
LOL HOW IS THIS SHIT EVEN FIGURED OUT. People are freakin’ geniuses.
Damn not gonna lie this is a really well done tutorial. Actually gives good execution based descriptions on how to adjust so that the combo can be done by someone who's never touched the character.
If you're like me and really struggling to hit the bomb loop there is a nice combo you can do off of the first bomb into more damage if you tack on an extra bar for a level 1 super, albeit a bit less corner carry. The combo is:
2M, M, J, M, L, L, J, M, S, 2S, Super Dash, L, M, 236H, 2M, M, 214M, 236LM - for 4765 damage minus the level 1 super and 5675 damage with it. This combo is waaay easier to hit consistently!
Added note: If your super bar is dry and you can't hit the 236H you can do 236M into vanish instead for 4694/5604 damage as the medium lightning legs will build you 1 bar, enough for the vanish.
Thank you so much.
I already achieve the full combo a few times in training but the timing is so hard I was thinking I would never be able to use it in "real combat", especially with the internet delay.
This version is far more "usable".
And because I like how community helps each other, I'd like to add my own part.
If you don't intend to use a lvl 1 super at the end, you could simply end the combo with 236H, 2M, M, 236M for 4950 dmg and 1 bar that will be 80% replenished.
Thank you for making this tutorial, brah. Nice breakdown. Very easy to understand, too. This will definitely help some of those hits I land count.
Been trying out T.Gohan, but I'm just straight lost out there, lol.
Very cool, it's clear and precise and I love the fact that it's not just another guy boasting about his shiny combo. You're talented and you help other players to follow your path, that's something I respect a lot.
Now about the combo itself, it's really awesome that Gohan can pull off the bomb loop against any character but I still think it's very complicated and will probably cause people to drop the combo too often while under pressure (I mean more often than other characters with their basic J.cancel simple BnB).
It's cool for practicing combos/timing but Idoubt it will be reliable on real combat (and I hope top players will make me lie on this in the future).
Wow you're archive is much better than I expected. I'm sure it took allot of work. Thanks allot, it's really useful.
Thanks so much for this video. Was seriously considering dropping this character before I found this video that actually explains the input path!
Thanks for the help man. I watched Clayton Chapman pull some of this stuff but couldn't quite figure it all out.
It feels so good when you finally get the timing down. Practiced for hours on Kid Buu
Finding it with the audio Q I never even thought of that. Perfect help.
i can't thank you enough man i way improved after watching your video
Clean, clear, precise. Subbed.
Katitud same. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Looking forward to more vids in the future!
well said.
Thanks for explaining the execution! Also, I'm loving the Persona 3 BGM. :)
Thank your for the Persona 3 Test music!
Kooswithak Aaay lmao np man, thought it was fitting xD!
Thank you so much for this. Actually what I was trying all day today and couldn't but finally got it. Also, it helps that my second jump cancel was up corner instead of up.
Clean and nicely explained. Much better explanation than in combo tutorial.
Excellent video and Gohan document. Much appreciated, thank you!
CANT.FUCKING.LAND.THE.236H! IMPOSSIBRU
Dude this was very well done! Would love to see more of these
Emtizy 楽園 Thanks dude, appreciate the support! & Yeah if I come up with anymore tech I'll be sure to make a vid!
even 2 years later, still works and consistent but most importantly, fun asf.
teen gohan is my favorite character, this video helps me a lot, thanks!
Great vid. Love the music choice! I'm gonna have to put some time aside to listen to some persona OSTs!
To anyone having a bit of trouble landing the 236H in the combo; after landing the super dash try slightly delaying the M, it seemed to work a little more consistently for me
Like others, I have found it rather challenging to land the 236H after landing. I have included a clip of me landing it fairly easily in the corner, but whiffing consistently mid-screen. ua-cam.com/video/SqnAVhuwGo0/v-deo.html - Any pointers you have on how to alleviate this would be appreciated. - I tried delaying the post SD M as you suggested but I'm still whiffing, would you mind looking at this and tell me where I can improve? Thanks.
Okay, its hard for me to tell whats wrong just from looking but maybe try delaying the super dash a little bit so that you're lower to the ground by the time you hit the super dash
To anyone who is missing the last kick (236H):
If you delay the JS after the SD JM you will hit it consistently. Hope this helps!
Nice work dude.. keep it this way xD..looking forward to see new things
FINALLY someone that explains this char for me
These vids and the google doc are awesome resources thank you very much
Amazing ! I had hard time playing with T Gohan... But ur video gave me hope to keep playing him ! Thx buddy !
Np!
Same tbh he looks free on the outside but he's pretty damn technical and takes a lot of lab work to get used to! Does pay off if I do say so myself.
just wanna say great video! helped out a lot. subscribed!
Thanks & np! Working on a new vid as we speak.
when editing audio on sony vegas -> right click the audio -> lock to stretch. slow motions sound rlyh bad
Thanks for this, I don't really know much about Vegas at all tbh. Stuff like this is really useful, especially seeing as I might make more vids!
My man. I don't main gohan but good job on this combo.
Bar efficient and does 5000. good job
Thank you I loved this video it helped me a lot understanding more this combo and how to do it. Do more DBFZ video like this and I'll follow you for sure bro ^^
finally got this, thank you! :D
This video is great because of the Persona 3 music in the background.
Thanks, it still works perfectly
Amazing combo!
The music is 👌👌👌
Nice guide vid though. Might pick up Gohan. Subbed.
Jerry Thanks fam!
i always miss the last part, the god damn kick
Justin Arsalon I can't land that damn kick either
me too, idk where the hell i am fucking up
Ohhh, i think that kick is a tiger knee, i suppose thats the problem
I just practiced this for 2 hours non stop and still can’t land the kick. It wiffs everytime
I’m not entirely sure it’s possible, have practiced it sparingly for weeks and it never connects. I wonder if it was nerfed or something. Which would be dumb because the last character that needs a need should be Teen Gohan.
Im not sure if you can help but: Ive nailed down part 1 and 2 but when I go for qcfH at the end, i am just slightly out of range. Ive tried delaying the dash more but I still seem to be just out of range for the qcfH.
Ben Chen this^
in the meantime, im subbing an assist to keep the combo going...but then at this point i dont see a real difference between using the bomb loop vs. the universal assist combo
Slight note: this is a slide knockdown, not hard knockdown. Still, this helped me out when i started to learn some teen gohan basics
Thanks this helped me a lot :D
I fought against someone who was using this combo. I was surprised as it seemed different from the normal "Dragon Rush" combo people tend to do
Definitely getting my sub
Thanks for the infos, that will help me ! :)
Thanks for the support guys, appreciate it! If you haven't already, check the description, I forgot a small point for the combo.
If I come up with anything new, I'll be sure to upload, if you guys want more T. Gohan stuff in the meantime? Check out the doc I've been working on, link's in the description.
Peace!
Two questions. 1st. Are the two J.light punchs necessary or can I use LP, MP? 2nd. How important is positioning with this combo?
MrFr1day Hopefully the response I gave you via Discord helped.
What I find way easier for me is j.l>jm> jump> j> slight delayed low> j.m>S>2S
It looks like this. It was me recording it for a friend.
ua-cam.com/video/sLz9xeWmYjk/v-deo.html
rawkid360 any idea why my 236H doesn't have enough range? I literally come up short on range. Can't figure it out. I feel like I'm delaying the Super Dash as much as I can
the B&B can be used to chain the bomb technique as well
Pretty dope, might make tutorials like how you do it.
Damn that was dope.
Another clarification, if you're unsure you're gonna be able to land 236H, you can always use a Beam Assist like Goku Black (fuck this guy), Goku, or Tien have, it's far more safer to do in online matches, since delaying the dragon dash can be painful having some frame delay.
i managed to do it a few times, but it took about 5 hours before i landed my first flying kick. i think EX flying kick is easier than medium.
nice I will put on practice thx for your help
is an awesome looking combo, but chances of dropping this online are high, also you can get similar damage with a regular route into super which is way safer
but for the swag? yeah, it looks amazing :)
Frieza also has a weird hit box that's hard to time.
I always use Frieza to practice and I'm so Inconstistent on the first bomb, the rest are fine
tbh the part that I'm having the hardest part with is the first segment. On Kid Buu and Frieza, the timing is much harsher than on, for example, Android 18. After the jM>L>L>jM, the timing for it seems to become so much more difficult.
I Just picked Up the game again and I'm interested to use my old team again with TGohan. Is there any assist that do you recommend? I'd like to try Baseku as Anchor, how does it perform? It has good approach, good combo synergy? Which would be a good third character if TGohan-Baseku core is good?
Insane!!!
@1:37 sugoi!!
THANK YOU
Well I decided to pick T. Gohan up. I'm having troubles landing the 236H after the 2nd bomb. any tips? (and yes I am delaying the last j.s)
Thanks for the video Rawkid360. It really helped me getting the timing on that second J.2s loop. I do have a question about air dashing after the second J.2s into a 3rd J.2s and then into the 236H . I seen it in another video but can't replicate due to not knowing the timing. Help would be appreciated. Thank you
A really informative vid. Although theres's something that still bothers me: I still can't find whats the difference between T. Gohan's 2S/J2S and 3S/J3S. Any chance you could tell me that?
I have a few problems with this combo
1) I have problems landing the second bomb loop without. My opponent will just recover before I hit him
2) Even if I did manage to land the 2nd bomb loop by luck, my oppenent AWLAYS recovers before I can land the 236 M or H.
is it possible to still do the universal bomb loop with jLL jc jL instead of the jML jc jL ?
I...need...to...practice....this
Hi, great video man I really want to play Teen Gohan. Your video is very clear but I still dont know what im doing wrong. I uploaded a video of me trying the loop a couple times. I'm dropping the 3rd part. Any tips would be awesome. Am I just not doing part 3 fast enough?
Can't wait to try in practice mode, but doesn't seem optimal compared to the variation with a beam assist and super. That one is meter neutral
Sorry if this is a dumb question but can this combo be done if you're somewhere else in the screen? (Like the corner or something) or would that mess up the bombs?
I tried contacting you on discord but it doesnt work since we don't share a server or anything the likes
I've got the problem that after the second part, my attack just doesnt reach far enough to hit. How can I fix that?
I can't connect any single 236H after the last bomb, extremely annoying...
You can do it similar if you do 2 lights instead
The first part only seems to work for me if I delay the j.M and not do it instantly like the video says. The j.S will completely wiff under them if I do the j.M straight away. Any tips?
i could time the airdash and it's great, but i struggling with the first double jump, most of the times gohan falls after the second j.L and i dont know if i am going too slow or too fast.
Hello man Awesome video !! I wanted to know something cause i'm practicing...Hahah if i do : 2M > M > J > L > M > L > J.C > L > L > S > 2S > Dash > L > S > 2S > and at this moment i can't reach the 236H. Is it because I hit to many times before, or just that my timing isn't good ?
Thanks again for the video it's awesome !
If you mean j.MLL > JC > j.M > j.S > j.2S? Yeah its probably you aren't delaying your Super Dash enough or aren't delaying your j.S.
Thanks ! SO there's nothing to see about the number of hits I accomplish ?
No problem and no not really. It works off any hit, even off a double L starter.
Thanks again. So here is the fail combo : streamable.com/oz6cw
If you have a bit of time to check it and tell me what's wrong....Thanks a lot.
Well you're first off not doing the universal air combo which means that combo you're doing will drop on small characters. Second, yeah, you aren't delaying the Super Dash or j.S.
Did they nerf the range of that kick? I CANNOT land that kick for the life of me.
im not gonna lie i was dancing throughout the whole video .
Lmao yeah Persona music really is that groovy! Will most likely be using another Persona theme on my upcoming video.
I've been practicing the loop but every time after the first bomb and i land the dash my 5M to 5S won't connect for the second part.
I, for the love of god, cannot connect that 236H
I really tried for hours, the rest of the combo flows nice, but I REALLY can't land that no matter what...
I hate kid buu so here, have a like. jl,m,l jc, jm,s,d+s also works for the initial bomb on small chars. It's a bit more forgiving to land than jm,l,l, jc jm.
having trouble understanding the j.M j.L j.L JC JM and 236H since it's my first time playing dbfz on the ps4. can anyone explain the meaning of these notations in ps4 button form?
Head over to my doc in the description and in the first few pages there's an explanation of notations.
Would you be open to making Gohan pressure vids or just how to approach neutral w him? Since he’s stubby and requires assist in that way more than other chars
Subbed as well
Roelant Bergen Funny you say that I was thinking about making a pressure video with him next lol. & yeah approach is pretty tough, reading the google doc will probably help you on that
Works on every character or it depends wich one is? I know the easiest one is Cell to do this combo but dont know with this metod can works on every character
Can't land the 236H, Sometimes I do the imput and nothing happens. I must be doing it too fast (I guess) but if I delay it any more it just misses. Do you have to delay anything besides the SD?
Lol I pinned it in the comments and put it in the description. Delaying your last j.S before the 2nd bomb helps too.
rawkid360 yeah I read the description right after commenting D: anyways good job on the video
Thanks & yeah dw about it lol
For some reason I'm not getting the 2nd medium, my opponent is too low for the medium to hit even rising. Any advice? Thanks in advance, fighters.
You're probably inputting the j.MLL (before the 2nd j.M) too slowly. Its gotta be pretty quick.
What does "236H" mean ? Assuming h means heavy but what's 236?
XxLaMaravish13xX 236 means QCF. If you go onto my Google Doc there's a notation explanation at the beginning.
rawkid360 holy shit!!! I just saw the doc!!! subscribing now just cause of that . Great work !!
It's a cool combo. But I'll probably never use this. I'd rather spend 1 assist to extend the combo easily and get guaranteed damage instead of gambling if I land that last hit.
i keep missing the 5S *i think* by shooting volleys instead of the quick single shot causing it to go off late. I turn on the input display and see clearly that I input S > 2S, but over and over the 5S misses too late. Not sure wtf I'm doing wrong
beckmanator69 I was having the same exact problem. Try holding up when you hit that 5S. It works every time for me when I do that instead.
Actually i fixed the inconsistency by making sure i press forward/up separately from the light attacks, instead of nearly at the same time.
subbed.✊
i never seem to be able to connect the forward circle heavy and i have no idea why
Nvm just saw the description
Nice video! But how do people do jL two times? It just does auto combo for me.
Sorry for the late reply just saw this!
Its done by holding back as you're pressing the first j.L.
rawkid360 ah, yes I got it to work but I can’t connect the 236H after the second loop.
Link to the discord server? I deleted It by accident D:
Not sure what I'm doing wrong but the 236H never hits the opponent.
200+ attempts and I can sometimes do it but damn its hard af
Can anyone tell me the point of doing this? I feel like you can get way more damage with a much simpler combo so I'm kinda confused
it's a corner carry. very powerful position to be in
Is it the same button notations with Larger characters?
Yup exactly the same. Description is updated, might wanna take a look at that too.
I can get this combo up to the second bomb, I cant seem to land the bombs after the air medium
well i just got it, you have to time the super dash righttt with the sound of the bomb like you said