As much as I love A New Dawn, one major gripe I have with it is how victory is determined. I’d rather have a civ style “scientific, cultural, military, ecenomic” etc victory thing, like in the previous Civ board game. Even so I love the heck out of A New Dawn and I’m gonna bring it to my next board game meetup!
@@StefanParker I might have to check that out some time. I know there are things I really liked about it, but I'm so used to how things are now, it'll be interesting to see how things have changed.
@@RTFM I also have played every Civilization game, but similarly really put in a TON of time in Civ 2 especially. Due to the more simple graphics, it was easier to make new units and I think I spent at least as much time building custom scenarios as I did actually playing the game.
OK, this is a very good explanation. HOWEVER, if you are a newbie to games like this, this is a very complicated game and it will take you MUCH longer than 20 minutes to learn it! I have watched this video several times and read the 15-page instructions several times and I'm only starting to understand it and prepare for my first game. But he did an excellent job in this 20-minute video explaining everything. Thank you!
Your videos are amazing, they really helped me with Twilight Imperium and war of the ring, but I have a question will you do a video on the war of the ring expansions? They seam as a perfect fit for your video and I would definitely watch it.
I am planning on covering the WotR expansions, though I'm not sure when. I was originally planning on waiting until the Kings expansion came out and teach all of the expansions, but it's been pushed back and as of right now there's no official release date. I'll probably just end up covering Lords and Warriors, but it'll be a while before I can get to them.
Oh man! You brought back memories of playing Civ on my PC years ago (many years ago). I think I was addicted. Like you, I had to stop buying the new releases. :-) I have the board game and need to crack it open. I've heard it is the best Civ game when the Terra expansion is included. Oh yeah, thanks for sharing. Great job!
I have a decades-long history with Civ (everything except 6), and my 3 teenage nephews play a lot of Catan (with expansions). I bought them this game for Christmas. Afterward, I decided to watch a couple videos on it so that I could understand it well enough to start playing it with them the next time I see them... Instead... after watching a couple videos... I honestly don't think my nephews will ever have the patience or time to learn how to play something like this. I've failed as an uncle. 😭 Should've bought them tools. lol
It's so weird that there are people who don't know the Civ computer game was base don a boardgame ..and then you don't mention there are about a dozen more boardgames that came out since. IF you leave people with the impression that this is the *one* civ board game they are liable to be very confused when they try to buy it
Hello, I have a couple of questions. I hope that you will answer first. I can defend the distance through the city-states. What are the wonders of nature for? For example, there is a rope on it if I get it, then how exactly can I get this oil?
Hey, I'm not 100% sure I understand all your questions, but I'll try my best to answer them. 1. You can't attack through city states (unless you have the flight card), so a city state will defend you in a sense. 2. Controlling a natural wonder gives you a reusable resource. Let's say you put a control token on a diamond natural wonder. Take the token, and now you can use it whenever you would spend a diamond. You don't discard it like regular resources, but you can only use it once per turn. Hope that helps! If not, let me know and we'll keep trying to figure it out.
If attacking a conquered city-state hex, is the combat value still 8 or is it dependent on the underlying terrain type? Thanks so much for the amazing explanations!
I love your videos, but somehow whenever I play this game I just don't really enjoy it. Do you have any tips for getting the most out of it? I have played lots of games with 2 and one with 4
A couple things. I would say that it's a better experience with 3 or 4, though that can be tricky these days. Have you tried it with the expansion? I strongly prefer playing the expansion to playing without. For me it makes it feel a lot more like the video game. Other than that, going in knowing that it's a lighter game than it seems is an important mindset. Civilization brings to mind a very heavy experience, but this is a firmly midweight game (in my opinion). Hope that helps!
I have to agree with Shea on this. The main reason I have not decided on getting A New Dawn is simply that my usual player count of 2 just isn't a good fit with a territory control game like this. It is amazing how much an experience changes with just adding a player or two. There are games I only pull out when we get the oft desired 3rd player! My metric (which isn't perfect, but it is a good start) is to go to BGG and click on the recommended player count. If the "best" votes double or at least outnumber the "not recommended" then I take notice of the game as a two player option.
There are two Civilization board games. This is the newer one and it sounds like you have the older one. Unfortunately they don't have the same gameplay/rules.
@@wolverinehobbit1 There are at least* FOUR Civ boardgames (including the original that predates the computer game) * probably more but 4 I remember right now
Can someone help me . World wonders like hanging gardens that state , “ at the start of your turn ,” is that every start of your turn or just one time ?
By civ style are you referring to the Civilization franchise, or just civ-building games in general? There's another Civ board game, though I haven't played it. As for all civ-building games, I wouldn't say this one is the best because there are a lot of great choices out there, but I do really like the action selection system of this one.
@@RTFM yes, build civilization, going thru eras. Which one would you recommend. I played civ 5 and humankind, would like a board game similar to the pc experience.
@@dnaseb9214 With that specific hook, I'd say Through the Ages is probably worth checking out. It's a big game, and it's a little more abstracted than A New Dawn, but a lot of people hold it in very high regard. Of course, if you're just looking for a really good 4x game, my favorite will always be Twilight Imperium. Of course, that one comes with the big caveat that it takes all day to play, so...not for everyone. If you're still looking for suggestions, BGG has a good thread about this exact subject. Just search "best civilization board games"
@@RTFM I already have twilight imperium + the expansion. I even added the trechery cards from DUNE into it, so now you can use your heroes in combat and have them sniped. Thank you for the recommendations.
Why don’t people who make these ultra complicated boardgames just make their own videos for us to watch instead of expecting us to read the manual which no one wants to do..? they don’t realize that they’re making a lot less money because of that
Not sure if you were hoping for a serious answer to this question, but I am in a pretty good position to provide one. There are a few reasons that all come together to influence this kind of decision. First off, making tutorial videos is difficult, so a lot of the time when publishers make their own videos they're...not great. And that can be worse than not having a video at all. They sometimes hire people like me to make them, but we aren't cheap because, well like I said, these videos are hard to make. And then you have videos like this, which was asked for by my Patreon, so FFG didn't have to pay anything for it. Knowing that these kinds of videos get made, some publishers will just put out their game hoping that a tutorial will get made without their asking for one. Also some people do prefer reading manuals to watching videos, so it's not like these are a total prerequisite for a game being successful. So unfortunately, while it would be nice if every game came with a high quality tutorial for those who need it, it's probably not gonna happen for most of them.
So I’ve run into a problem with 2 players only. In the rules it says that at the start of the 1st players turn if a player has completed 3 objectives they win the game. But this isn’t entirely fair to the first player as they won’t have the opportunity to stop the victory of player 2. Has anyone else come across this or is there a clarification?
So a lot of games do something like this, and it's a means of ensuring that each player gets to play the same number of turns. If player 1 got to go again, they would have played one more round than player 2, and thus would've had an advantage overall. While it's true that they can't respond to the 2nd player ending the game, being able to take the first turn each round is it's own bonus, so it ends up evening out in the long run. Also, this is how you play regardless of player count, so it's not just a 2 player thing.
I'm afraid it's not on my docket at the moment. Next up I've got a couple commissioned videos to do, followed by Eclipse, which my Patreon backers voted on.
@@RTFM That's a unfortunate. We found your 'How to Play' videos extremely helpful especially on heavier games. Hope you put this in your list in the future! All the best!
Quick question...trying to understand how resource tiles work. Once you use a resource...what happens to the tile? Are you able to get a resource again from that tile again? Or is it a one time use only thing?
When you get a resource tile, it's a one time use thing. The exception is controlling natural wonders. As long as you control the location, you can use its associated resource once per turn.
Me playing Civ on PC: 9:30pm: "OK, I gotta be up early tomorrow. One more turn" 3:27am: "Jesus, my alarm for work goes off in 2 hours.... one more turn"
Hey there! I love your videos, your TI 4th edition got me hooked on board games. If you're a fan of Civ and PC gaming in general, you should checkout my band WASD. We do metal covers of PC game music. We have cover from Quake, Secret of Monkey Island, Space Quest 3, and of course Baba Yetu. Now our cover of Baba Yetu isn't out yet, but follow us on bandcamp cuz we got a new album on the horizon. We also have songs on UA-cam, some music videos and live performances. Thanks for another great video. Here's the bandcamp link: wasdband.bandcamp.com/album/shift
why do the icons in civilization six and this board gsme have the ugly art from the civilization revolution games instead of the beautiful art from all the other civilization games...?🤮🤢
I’m sorry, but you don’t make any sense. You constantly say things that are confusing. Like diplomacy cards “from” a player. What do you mean from? Do you mean for? Explaining things isn’t your jam.
With the expansion this game went from a 6/10 to a straight 9/10. It’s an amazing game that really deserves recognition
As much as I love A New Dawn, one major gripe I have with it is how victory is determined. I’d rather have a civ style “scientific, cultural, military, ecenomic” etc victory thing, like in the previous Civ board game. Even so I love the heck out of A New Dawn and I’m gonna bring it to my next board game meetup!
Thanks for the shoutout! I too have many memories of long hours of Civilization when we were younger.
For sure! Occasionally I have the urge to download civ 2 and try it again. Not sure if it would be fun or frustrating after all these years though.
@@RTFM There are some videos of the gameplay on UA-cam that I watched a few months ago and found it both funny and nostalgic.
@@StefanParker I might have to check that out some time. I know there are things I really liked about it, but I'm so used to how things are now, it'll be interesting to see how things have changed.
@@RTFM I also have played every Civilization game, but similarly really put in a TON of time in Civ 2 especially. Due to the more simple graphics, it was easier to make new units and I think I spent at least as much time building custom scenarios as I did actually playing the game.
Thanks for watching! Did you notice something I got wrong or missed? Comment here and add a timestamp so I can fix it in the subtitles.
OK, this is a very good explanation. HOWEVER, if you are a newbie to games like this, this is a very complicated game and it will take you MUCH longer than 20 minutes to learn it! I have watched this video several times and read the 15-page instructions several times and I'm only starting to understand it and prepare for my first game. But he did an excellent job in this 20-minute video explaining everything. Thank you!
Just bought the game. This really helped. Thanks for the video!
No problem, glad I could help!
It's the best video explaining the game on the internet.
Hey thanks!
Your videos are amazing, they really helped me with Twilight Imperium and war of the ring, but I have a question will you do a video on the war of the ring expansions? They seam as a perfect fit for your video and I would definitely watch it.
I am planning on covering the WotR expansions, though I'm not sure when. I was originally planning on waiting until the Kings expansion came out and teach all of the expansions, but it's been pushed back and as of right now there's no official release date. I'll probably just end up covering Lords and Warriors, but it'll be a while before I can get to them.
Played the game and it was really good. The setup tho is terribly long
Yeah, setting up the map is a bit of a hassle. I like how the expansion handles that part better.
Oh man! You brought back memories of playing Civ on my PC years ago (many years ago). I think I was addicted. Like you, I had to stop buying the new releases. :-) I have the board game and need to crack it open. I've heard it is the best Civ game when the Terra expansion is included.
Oh yeah, thanks for sharing. Great job!
Hey thanks! And just so you know, I'll have a video up for the Terra Incognita expansion at the end of the month.
Thank you for a nice explanation!
No problem!
I have a decades-long history with Civ (everything except 6), and my 3 teenage nephews play a lot of Catan (with expansions). I bought them this game for Christmas. Afterward, I decided to watch a couple videos on it so that I could understand it well enough to start playing it with them the next time I see them...
Instead... after watching a couple videos... I honestly don't think my nephews will ever have the patience or time to learn how to play something like this. I've failed as an uncle.
😭 Should've bought them tools. lol
For the algorithm!
Haha, thanks! The robots appreciate your input.
It's so weird that there are people who don't know the Civ computer game was base don a boardgame ..and then you don't mention there are about a dozen more boardgames that came out since. IF you leave people with the impression that this is the *one* civ board game they are liable to be very confused when they try to buy it
Hello, I have a couple of questions. I hope that you will answer first. I can defend the distance through the city-states. What are the wonders of nature for? For example, there is a rope on it if I get it, then how exactly can I get this oil?
Hey, I'm not 100% sure I understand all your questions, but I'll try my best to answer them.
1. You can't attack through city states (unless you have the flight card), so a city state will defend you in a sense.
2. Controlling a natural wonder gives you a reusable resource. Let's say you put a control token on a diamond natural wonder. Take the token, and now you can use it whenever you would spend a diamond. You don't discard it like regular resources, but you can only use it once per turn.
Hope that helps! If not, let me know and we'll keep trying to figure it out.
If attacking a conquered city-state hex, is the combat value still 8 or is it dependent on the underlying terrain type? Thanks so much for the amazing explanations!
Thanks! After being conquered, it's just a city, so it will depend on the underlying terrain, which I believe is always grassland.
I love your videos, but somehow whenever I play this game I just don't really enjoy it. Do you have any tips for getting the most out of it? I have played lots of games with 2 and one with 4
A couple things. I would say that it's a better experience with 3 or 4, though that can be tricky these days. Have you tried it with the expansion? I strongly prefer playing the expansion to playing without. For me it makes it feel a lot more like the video game. Other than that, going in knowing that it's a lighter game than it seems is an important mindset. Civilization brings to mind a very heavy experience, but this is a firmly midweight game (in my opinion). Hope that helps!
I have to agree with Shea on this. The main reason I have not decided on getting A New Dawn is simply that my usual player count of 2 just isn't a good fit with a territory control game like this. It is amazing how much an experience changes with just adding a player or two. There are games I only pull out when we get the oft desired 3rd player! My metric (which isn't perfect, but it is a good start) is to go to BGG and click on the recommended player count. If the "best" votes double or at least outnumber the "not recommended" then I take notice of the game as a two player option.
Criminal how low your views are man!
I have the Civilization board game but it isn’t called a new dawn. Is this the same?
There are two Civilization board games. This is the newer one and it sounds like you have the older one. Unfortunately they don't have the same gameplay/rules.
@@RTFM alright thx
@@wolverinehobbit1 There are at least* FOUR Civ boardgames (including the original that predates the computer game)
* probably more but 4 I remember right now
Can you so another with expansion?
Can someone help me . World wonders like hanging gardens that state , “ at the start of your turn ,” is that every start of your turn or just one time ?
At the start of every turn, yes.
Is this the best civ style game ?
By civ style are you referring to the Civilization franchise, or just civ-building games in general? There's another Civ board game, though I haven't played it. As for all civ-building games, I wouldn't say this one is the best because there are a lot of great choices out there, but I do really like the action selection system of this one.
@@RTFM yes, build civilization, going thru eras.
Which one would you recommend. I played civ 5 and humankind, would like a board game similar to the pc experience.
@@dnaseb9214 With that specific hook, I'd say Through the Ages is probably worth checking out. It's a big game, and it's a little more abstracted than A New Dawn, but a lot of people hold it in very high regard. Of course, if you're just looking for a really good 4x game, my favorite will always be Twilight Imperium. Of course, that one comes with the big caveat that it takes all day to play, so...not for everyone. If you're still looking for suggestions, BGG has a good thread about this exact subject. Just search "best civilization board games"
@@RTFM I already have twilight imperium + the expansion. I even added the trechery cards from DUNE into it, so now you can use your heroes in combat and have them sniped.
Thank you for the recommendations.
Why don’t people who make these ultra complicated boardgames just make their own videos for us to watch instead of expecting us to read the manual which no one wants to do..? they don’t realize that they’re making a lot less money because of that
Not sure if you were hoping for a serious answer to this question, but I am in a pretty good position to provide one. There are a few reasons that all come together to influence this kind of decision. First off, making tutorial videos is difficult, so a lot of the time when publishers make their own videos they're...not great. And that can be worse than not having a video at all. They sometimes hire people like me to make them, but we aren't cheap because, well like I said, these videos are hard to make. And then you have videos like this, which was asked for by my Patreon, so FFG didn't have to pay anything for it. Knowing that these kinds of videos get made, some publishers will just put out their game hoping that a tutorial will get made without their asking for one. Also some people do prefer reading manuals to watching videos, so it's not like these are a total prerequisite for a game being successful. So unfortunately, while it would be nice if every game came with a high quality tutorial for those who need it, it's probably not gonna happen for most of them.
nice game. enjoyes even if i suffered the lack of icons instead of a tons of text on cards. low readibility for players
Agreed, a lot of this game could have used icons instead of text. Glad you like it regardless.
How does it play with 2?
I definitely like it better at a higher player count, to be honest. It's not bad at two, just better at three or four.
So I’ve run into a problem with 2 players only. In the rules it says that at the start of the 1st players turn if a player has completed 3 objectives they win the game. But this isn’t entirely fair to the first player as they won’t have the opportunity to stop the victory of player 2. Has anyone else come across this or is there a clarification?
So a lot of games do something like this, and it's a means of ensuring that each player gets to play the same number of turns. If player 1 got to go again, they would have played one more round than player 2, and thus would've had an advantage overall. While it's true that they can't respond to the 2nd player ending the game, being able to take the first turn each round is it's own bonus, so it ends up evening out in the long run. Also, this is how you play regardless of player count, so it's not just a 2 player thing.
Civ IV is still the best Civ
Will you be filming a video on how to play Trickerion? 😀
I'm afraid it's not on my docket at the moment. Next up I've got a couple commissioned videos to do, followed by Eclipse, which my Patreon backers voted on.
@@RTFM That's a unfortunate. We found your 'How to Play' videos extremely helpful especially on heavier games. Hope you put this in your list in the future! All the best!
Quick question...trying to understand how resource tiles work. Once you use a resource...what happens to the tile? Are you able to get a resource again from that tile again? Or is it a one time use only thing?
When you get a resource tile, it's a one time use thing. The exception is controlling natural wonders. As long as you control the location, you can use its associated resource once per turn.
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Me playing Civ on PC:
9:30pm: "OK, I gotta be up early tomorrow. One more turn"
3:27am: "Jesus, my alarm for work goes off in 2 hours.... one more turn"
Hey, how did you get my diary?
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Hey there! I love your videos, your TI 4th edition got me hooked on board games. If you're a fan of Civ and PC gaming in general, you should checkout my band WASD. We do metal covers of PC game music. We have cover from Quake, Secret of Monkey Island, Space Quest 3, and of course Baba Yetu. Now our cover of Baba Yetu isn't out yet, but follow us on bandcamp cuz we got a new album on the horizon. We also have songs on UA-cam, some music videos and live performances. Thanks for another great video. Here's the bandcamp link:
wasdband.bandcamp.com/album/shift
why do the icons in civilization six and this board gsme have the ugly art from the civilization revolution games instead of the beautiful art from all the other civilization games...?🤮🤢
I’m sorry, but you don’t make any sense. You constantly say things that are confusing. Like diplomacy cards “from” a player. What do you mean from? Do you mean for? Explaining things isn’t your jam.
Why should anyone play the boardgame over the pc game? Lol