I agree. Making the existing assets better is a much better idea than adding a new device most people already have has a 3rd party plugin. This is something the FL Studio team should REALLY focus on instead of adding new devices all the time. They should just modernize all the stock devices they haven’t updated since 2012 and before
Set as default pad and you no longer have to drag it into your drum rack. Changed it up pretty quickly in Beta and am liking it better over simpler. I am also loving the keyboard workflows for automation - big improvement. Chops is pretty handy for creating rolls - think snares and hihats. One of the bigger ones - auto tagging of all of your samples
@@ccakaccakaccakacc Idk the new Round Robin feature in sampler is the best update in 12 to me. I can record 7 strums per note on a guitar 2-3 notes per octave and damn it sounds good. Throw some drums in sampler instant randomness. Hell resample an Ableton instrument, throw into sampler and get all sorts of randomness. Edit: I do wish it included auto detect sample pitches and their start points.
FYI You already can make it dynamic by adding envelope follower, Also I've not needed to use a linear phase EQ in 15 years of professional production. Unless you are recording real drum kits trust me you're not missing out. The free ones are plenty good enough anyway if you really do need one. But stay away if you're making dance music.
@@Bthelick I'm aware, but it's not practical. I need a decent solution not a makeshift one (I already have kirchoff for dynamic eq, but I only bought it cause ableton doesn't include a decent solution for that). also, for my workflow, linear phase is a must, and I think we can agree that having the option for linear phase included in the (very) expensive software you bought is better than not having it, right?
how do you expect the software to get better if you get life time updates? That's just a bad business model. Money coming and going into A&R id a good thing
@@unnecessary-roughness3303true, I honestly was feeling guilty since I bought the all plugins version. I thought I would just get the current plugins available, but they keep giving you all their new paid plugins for free. I think that’s why they are starting to push the cloud subscription stuff. Which if you are only a FL Studio kind of person, it’s probably not a bad deal.
@@unnecessary-roughness3303 Well, FL is getting better and better with lifetime updates, so how about that? Furthermore, this type of business encourages people to buy the software instead of downloading the cracked version.
ive been wishing they would optimize the .als filestructure and abletons underlying signal flow engine for awhile now, working on large projects is sluggish as hell. but this is a nice update regardless.
@@user-ev9kh7mt7q bro other daws are legit kicking ableton's ass when it comes to rewrites and optimizations, its become a pretty big problem. fl studio, bitwig, and reason come to mind as of recently. maintaining and updating the legacy components of professional software is very important. working on an ableton project with more than 100 tracks feels like working with a 15 year old program, not even mentioning all the regular ui hangups like when its building those damn asd peak files or some other random crap.
@@HOLLASOUNDS Its by far the most unstable of any beta or Alpha I have used & I have been testing this software since version 7. Just making people aware.
Not necessary. You can use tools outside of ableton and I don’t feel like that is really a music feature, it’s kinda like adding a built in audio converter to me
@@Alsexaren Ableton does have built in audio conversion though? PCM to lossless conversion. Floating point to fixed point conversion, sample rate conversion. In fact it's automatic on import! It's the world's first (ish) dedicated DJ DAW. Why isn't stem separation important for it?
@@Bthelick I didn’t know that tbh. I think stem separation is more of a utility feature that could be nice to have than an actual DAW feature which would fit better in FL
I'm not gonna lie, as cool as plugin sandboxing is it's not without its own problems. Lots of VST3 plugins do not play nice with being sandboxed and it can cause a bunch of weird issues. I would like the option, but yeah even if they do it 1 to 1 like Bitwig it won't be perfect
@@neqkk Sometimes they won't work well, cause audio dropouts/glitches, the GUI of the plugin can have a stroke, cause CPU usage spikes but most of the time they work there's just some weirdness that comes with it. It's random tho so you never know if it's going to misbehave which is more common than you'd like, especially with VST3 plugins. Preventing DAW crashes is generally awesome but there's also a cost and you're never sure when thats going to pop up.
I like to criticise everything weaver, people, things, myself, you, i find contentment in it, but i like your glasses. They have an odd upward swept thing at the sides going on but i don't care. I hope you like them too, glasses are harder to love than ballbags
@@lilwoodiewood3457 Like I said "Unless you want to stay with Ableton lite for years" There are other DAWs like MPC beats that are free or come with other products. Cracking software is a option but I'd say that's not necessary these days. There are also free VSTs.
Ableton is in need of more buffs fl studio got a incredible force the last few years and ableton is not really having the buffs it needed to stay in the meta
Am I seeing things, or is Ableton burning through CPU like crazy? I did a few tracks and can only compare to Logic but this software seems quite consuming.
Drum Sampler with no pitch or filter envelope, no sample reversing... Woopty-Frigging-Doooo... How to say a DAW is dying without saying a DAW is dying.
Let me spill the beans once and for ALL. The makers of Ableton are not Dumb. they are Suuuuuuuuper smart. whatever stuff they are adding or introducing has been well thought years back.... After the AI scare they will and you will see that a lot more sheet will be added through updates.... These companies wont give away everything at once for the simple reason "money" with every new version there is uodate, new purchase of ableton involved.... so here is my 100% on point rant... challenge me anyone who thinks otherwise.
Really happy with this update for .1 actually makes the upgrade more enticing. Sadly I don’t see sandboxing becoming a thing as apparently the way Ableton is coded makes it impossible to add.
Stem separation is a utility feature and not like a DAW feature , that’s stuff that makes sense in FL but Ableton doesn’t have a lot of studd plike that and probably won’t
The best thing about ableton is its workstation, but the rest is far behind Logic. I already had these things in Emagic Logic Audio Platinium 6 for Mac Os9, 22 years ago... how is it possible that they don't have such complete things? Ok, they left all the weight for M4L, but that's not great, when they want to announce something new and many times it's not worth updating, for things that in DAW's that are more innovative, they have things like autotune or a Melodine inside. What I never liked about Ableton is that it never uses the 12 cores of an M1 chip, it will always use 6 or 7 at most, only and only in performance mode, it doesn't matter if you are playing music with the loop arrangement or the multitrack arrangement. , it works only in performance and I don't like that at all, because it makes your M1 stay at a 6 core, wasting all the potential of your machine. And in Windows the same thing happens. That's why I no longer go back to Ableton as my main DAW for everything, I only use it for M4L and nothing else. Thanks for the video, as always it is informative and entertaining. 😅👍
@@notnoaintno5134mapping is different than keycommand. Keycommands are universal and mappings are project based. Example: You cannot change what TAB does.
I find Ableton interesting because its the exact opposite to Reason when in comes to device UI Graphics, Ableton has none while Reason divides look like rack gear. I wonder how much time and resources the Ableton team saves by not having to worry about UI graphics, basically they look like Dos mode.
I'm a big bitwig fan and main it as my DAW now, but it is definitely missing a lot of fundamental features at the moment that I have to use 3rd party tools for. Hoping Bitwig 6 fills in a bunch of the gaps whenever it drops.
The grid is super cool and it's like a modular synth video game to me but I can't figure out a lot of fundamentals. I kinda regret buying Bitwig Studio 5 as my first DAW and am looking for another. I have ableton 12 light so hopefully these features trickle down
We got Ableton Auto-Tune before GTA VI 🗣️🗣️❗❗🔥🔥
they should have called it "go shift yourself"
Lol they really should
It's never too late..
i feel updating plugins that we already have like they did with limiter and saturator is better than just adding more and more new plugins
I agree. Making the existing assets better is a much better idea than adding a new device most people already have has a 3rd party plugin.
This is something the FL Studio team should REALLY focus on instead of adding new devices all the time. They should just modernize all the stock devices they haven’t updated since 2012 and before
Set as default pad and you no longer have to drag it into your drum rack. Changed it up pretty quickly in Beta and am liking it better over simpler. I am also loving the keyboard workflows for automation - big improvement. Chops is pretty handy for creating rolls - think snares and hihats. One of the bigger ones - auto tagging of all of your samples
Simpler needs a refresh or really a whole rework atp. Its kinda falling into the same hole the sampler is in showing its age as time goes by
@@ccakaccakaccakacc Idk the new Round Robin feature in sampler is the best update in 12 to me. I can record 7 strums per note on a guitar 2-3 notes per octave and damn it sounds good. Throw some drums in sampler instant randomness. Hell resample an Ableton instrument, throw into sampler and get all sorts of randomness.
Edit: I do wish it included auto detect sample pitches and their start points.
EQ eight also deserves an update, to add linear phase and dynamic EQ
Damn that would be huge
Eq 16
Yeah dynamic eq would be solid
FYI You already can make it dynamic by adding envelope follower,
Also I've not needed to use a linear phase EQ in 15 years of professional production. Unless you are recording real drum kits trust me you're not missing out. The free ones are plenty good enough anyway if you really do need one. But stay away if you're making dance music.
@@Bthelick I'm aware, but it's not practical. I need a decent solution not a makeshift one (I already have kirchoff for dynamic eq, but I only bought it cause ableton doesn't include a decent solution for that). also, for my workflow, linear phase is a must, and I think we can agree that having the option for linear phase included in the (very) expensive software you bought is better than not having it, right?
Ableton needs to add an option to extract L/R mono channels from a stereo track and stems separation like fl studio!
Yeah wtf is it so hard to extract channels and convert to mono in DAWs
Makes sample based music with them annoying
Nothing will ever beat free lifetime updates. If DAWs were countries, FL Studio would have free universal healthcare.
how do you expect the software to get better if you get life time updates? That's just a bad business model. Money coming and going into A&R id a good thing
universal healthcare isnt free. its payed for by taxing the producing part of the popujlations work. I dont agree that its a good idea.
@@unnecessary-roughness3303true, I honestly was feeling guilty since I bought the all plugins version. I thought I would just get the current plugins available, but they keep giving you all their new paid plugins for free.
I think that’s why they are starting to push the cloud subscription stuff. Which if you are only a FL Studio kind of person, it’s probably not a bad deal.
Reaper@@unnecessary-roughness3303
@@unnecessary-roughness3303 Well, FL is getting better and better with lifetime updates, so how about that? Furthermore, this type of business encourages people to buy the software instead of downloading the cracked version.
Ableton needs to add Note Detection to Simpler and Sampler including the ability to sync it across multiple instances. 🙏
or learn music...
ive been wishing they would optimize the .als filestructure and abletons underlying signal flow engine for awhile now, working on large projects is sluggish as hell. but this is a nice update regardless.
What if we re sourced and reinvented every single part for this year's new Toyota Camry and made it entirely out of copper and coral
What @@user-ev9kh7mt7q
@@user-ev9kh7mt7q bro other daws are legit kicking ableton's ass when it comes to rewrites and optimizations, its become a pretty big problem. fl studio, bitwig, and reason come to mind as of recently. maintaining and updating the legacy components of professional software is very important.
working on an ableton project with more than 100 tracks feels like working with a 15 year old program, not even mentioning all the regular ui hangups like when its building those damn asd peak files or some other random crap.
Day 0 Weaver said gm kings 🙏
learning never ends :D
0:50 fl has clap now btw
they should go to the doctor then
Image line is going crazy with all this new implementations
What is Plugin Sandboxing Sir?🤔
Undo history is slept on
you can set the drum sampler as default in the rack
“Otto tune”
good job ableton. good job weaver beats.
Perhaps they could have gone with 'FFT Sound Tuner'
autotune/auto shift does not use fft. what you're describing sounds more like what pitchmap does
fl2024 is cooking ableton fam
Dudem the chord generator thing makes my session crash. :(
@@Tejaneaux-ic8dp whats stats do ur pc have? and i have license for fl or not? for me works all great🤷🏻🔥
@@drakehasbula5557 i have a legit license.
Specs
Intel Core i9-13950HX
Windows 11 Home
18" 240 Hz QHD+
GeForce RTX 4090
32 GB 5600 MHz RAM, 2 TB SSD
Razer 18 2024
@@drakehasbula5557 i have a legit license.
Specs
Intel Core i9-13950HX
Windows 11 Home
18" 240 Hz QHD+
GeForce RTX 4090
32 GB 5600 MHz RAM, 2 TB SSD
@@Tejaneaux-ic8dpworks on my potato pc without a license lol
Damn super stoked on having a native ableton creative auto tune like effect!
about damn time
Great, great, great video!
sticking with Reaper until they add native bridging
Its not very stable I would advise to wait a bit, but the new features are really great IMO.
Ofcourse because its still in Bata, the idea is you tell them any bugs and they fix it.
@@HOLLASOUNDS Its by far the most unstable of any beta or Alpha I have used & I have been testing this software since version 7. Just making people aware.
@@nrosko Well that MPE capabilities has probably made the code harder to work with, as every instrument and every midi function has to work with that.
“for free”
I hate that it can't be run on older processors anymore... I guess I'll be stuck with v11 forever
Lots of Bitwig things + a couple of new ideas
Bitwig is just a lot of Ableton Live things tbh
Give us Plugin Delay Transport compensation!! 🫡
What's the "Full Height Browser Mode" at 4:18 ?
zynaptic colors lite
congrats to ableton for adding basic features that other daws such as reaper has had for over a decade now.
Reaper isnt a basic daw
I was wondering where you were at on the Abelton Live update.
Yo homie, maschine 3.0 software confirmed!
WHAT IS PLUGIN SANDBOXING?
meanwhile FL 👑
massive FREE updates. Meanwhile I spend 700 on Ableton 11 suite and have to pay another 299 for Ableton 12...wtf. I'll stick with FL lol.
undo history was needed for me!
Edit: auto tagging for sure! I simply don't have time and patience to tag everything!
They finally made it worth paying for an upgrade
Undo history omg!!!
GM KINGS
Plug In Sandboxing?????? Your just used to Fruity Loops (Insert Rainbow Flag Here)
They fixed a load of bugs... finally.
When does this update come out. I haven't gotten my yet?
@@foshizol Not sure tbh. I'm still on 9 tbh as my puter is OLD 😅
No stem separation though huh?
95-98% of Ableton users use it wrong
So. will stem separation make your music Less Shitty? Will it stop you from making bad Tech House tutorials?
Not necessary. You can use tools outside of ableton and I don’t feel like that is really a music feature, it’s kinda like adding a built in audio converter to me
@@Alsexaren Ableton does have built in audio conversion though? PCM to lossless conversion. Floating point to fixed point conversion, sample rate conversion.
In fact it's automatic on import!
It's the world's first (ish) dedicated DJ DAW. Why isn't stem separation important for it?
@@Bthelick I didn’t know that tbh. I think stem separation is more of a utility feature that could be nice to have than an actual DAW feature which would fit better in FL
I'm not gonna lie, as cool as plugin sandboxing is it's not without its own problems. Lots of VST3 plugins do not play nice with being sandboxed and it can cause a bunch of weird issues. I would like the option, but yeah even if they do it 1 to 1 like Bitwig it won't be perfect
Ah what kind of issues does this create? Like a plugin not working at all?
@@neqkk Sometimes they won't work well, cause audio dropouts/glitches, the GUI of the plugin can have a stroke, cause CPU usage spikes but most of the time they work there's just some weirdness that comes with it. It's random tho so you never know if it's going to misbehave which is more common than you'd like, especially with VST3 plugins. Preventing DAW crashes is generally awesome but there's also a cost and you're never sure when thats going to pop up.
They should port Note to Android.
I like to criticise everything weaver, people, things, myself, you, i find contentment in it, but i like your glasses. They have an odd upward swept thing at the sides going on but i don't care. I hope you like them too, glasses are harder to love than ballbags
Auto tune!?!?!! AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!😩😩😩 FML! I can’t get jiggy in 11 knowing all this new stuff exist bruh. I’m too broke for this shit lol.
You got to have money to do music unless you want to stay with Ableton lite for years?
@HOLLASOUNDS no its not that hard to find a free safe source u actually don't need money for music software u just need to know where to go
@@lilwoodiewood3457 Like I said "Unless you want to stay with Ableton lite for years" There are other DAWs like MPC beats that are free or come with other products. Cracking software is a option but I'd say that's not necessary these days. There are also free VSTs.
nice glasses... :)
rare ableton W
W!
Ableton is in need of more buffs fl studio got a incredible force the last few years and ableton is not really having the buffs it needed to stay in the meta
Ableton stands so well that it doesn’t need a lot of features for people to use it.
@@Alsexaren yes all daws now are great but everything could still go crazier
Am I seeing things, or is Ableton burning through CPU like crazy?
I did a few tracks and can only compare to Logic but this software seems quite consuming.
Plug-in sandboxing for what?
...demon time.
wow features that others daws already have 🤩
I cant find auto shifter😢
Is PDC fine in Ableton?
Drum Sampler with no pitch or filter envelope, no sample reversing... Woopty-Frigging-Doooo...
How to say a DAW is dying without saying a DAW is dying.
Let me spill the beans once and for ALL. The makers of Ableton are not Dumb. they are Suuuuuuuuper smart. whatever stuff they are adding or introducing has been well thought years back.... After the AI scare they will and you will see that a lot more sheet will be added through updates.... These companies wont give away everything at once for the simple reason "money" with every new version there is uodate, new purchase of ableton involved.... so here is my 100% on point rant... challenge me anyone who thinks otherwise.
Really happy with this update for .1 actually makes the upgrade more enticing. Sadly I don’t see sandboxing becoming a thing as apparently the way Ableton is coded makes it impossible to add.
what makes you say that lol? are you an ableton employee.
if bitwig can do it, ableton has no excuses lmao, their team is like 20x the size
Does Vienna ensemble pro not work with abelton?
Lg!
Best DAW of all time
Don’t care about auto tune we need stem separation more. They did good. Wish drum rack was more like Logic drum designer, but this is looks good 👍🏽
Stem separation is a utility feature and not like a DAW feature , that’s stuff that makes sense in FL but Ableton doesn’t have a lot of studd plike that and probably won’t
@@Alsexaren If Logic and FL have it we should have it. Aren’t they the main competition?
@@DanielIvan707 I don’t think people are gonna choose Ableton because it adds stem separation because that’s such a small feature
@@Alsexaren I don't understand why it makes sense in FL but not Ableton. They're similar programs
@@Alsexaren Stem Seperation would be huge for some people... for many it'd be bigger than a lot of the utilities in this video
did you see all the producer tags that other youtuber found in Suno. it's insane.. Suno gonna lose this court case guaranteed now.
the argument is that training on copyrighted music is not illegal
The best thing about ableton is its workstation, but the rest is far behind Logic.
I already had these things in Emagic Logic Audio Platinium 6 for Mac Os9, 22 years ago... how is it possible that they don't have such complete things?
Ok, they left all the weight for M4L, but that's not great, when they want to announce something new and many times it's not worth updating, for things that in DAW's that are more innovative, they have things like autotune or a Melodine inside.
What I never liked about Ableton is that it never uses the 12 cores of an M1 chip, it will always use 6 or 7 at most, only and only in performance mode, it doesn't matter if you are playing music with the loop arrangement or the multitrack arrangement. , it works only in performance and I don't like that at all, because it makes your M1 stay at a 6 core, wasting all the potential of your machine.
And in Windows the same thing happens.
That's why I no longer go back to Ableton as my main DAW for everything, I only use it for M4L and nothing else.
Thanks for the video, as always it is informative and entertaining. 😅👍
..maybe one day ableton will have a custom key commands like any other daw in 2024...😔
it has those? click the "key" button, lets you map stuff to keys
ableton was literally the first one to implement key commands a decade ago
@@billysanchez-eh6nnNope. Key commands are still fixed to the combos listed in the manual. Mapped controls are project based.
@@notnoaintno5134mapping is different than keycommand. Keycommands are universal and mappings are project based. Example: You cannot change what TAB does.
@@digidopecan’t you
just save your key mapped project as a template?
group freezing please
Pretty sure its already possible, or you can just resample
They finally came out the closet ?
MPC has all of this in the drum rack already lol
Live vs fl?....Who da fuq cares, bitwig smashes them all😂😂😂😂
Nope bitwig is so behind on basic features that nobody even mentions it
@@Alsexaren lol, lol, you can keep Basic, i want special.
@@va941 you can stick with your nerd DAW but don’t say that it smashes everything when it lacks basic features
@@Alsexaren oh yeah? Like what?
@@va941 i havent used bitwig that much i used it like once like a year ago so idk but you probably know what is lacking since you use it
I find Ableton interesting because its the exact opposite to Reason when in comes to device UI Graphics, Ableton has none while Reason divides look like rack gear. I wonder how much time and resources the Ableton team saves by not having to worry about UI graphics, basically they look like Dos mode.
Just get Bitwig and be done with Unableton :)
I'm a big bitwig fan and main it as my DAW now, but it is definitely missing a lot of fundamental features at the moment that I have to use 3rd party tools for. Hoping Bitwig 6 fills in a bunch of the gaps whenever it drops.
Username checks out
bitwig is like ableton wannabe with horrendous ui and focuses on unique features while forgets about essentials that makes a daw function properly
The grid is super cool and it's like a modular synth video game to me but I can't figure out a lot of fundamentals. I kinda regret buying Bitwig Studio 5 as my first DAW and am looking for another. I have ableton 12 light so hopefully these features trickle down
Dunno about Bitwig, but add IlLogic'al to that list too 😂
Ableton’s getting bloated but all the new stuff is great
Fr. The MIDI tools and browser are kinda disorganised