Front fans fit nicely outside and then the 280mm radiator does not interfere with the power button, also better to use 140mm fans for the 280mm AIO. Maybe with the fans outside the AIO would fit with the hoses down too.
Here's my problem with "small" form factor, it's not small, and saves no space. If you have your computer on your desk to your right, and if that case is a conventional tower in which the expansion cards plug into the motherboard directly at a right-angle, motherboard size doesn't matter, because the motherboard only occupies vertical space, and people don't arrange their surroundings vertically. Any conventional tower case will occupy an identical footprint, regardless of motherboard size. This case could be 2cm taller, and fit mATX boards, or 8cm taller, and fit ATX...so why isn't it? What were you going to fit in your room which now will not fit because your PC case is 2cm, or 8cm taller? The answer, I think everyone will realise, is nothing.
Good point. I really don't care about the height of the case. I'd much rather if they made it slim so it could stay more flush with the wall if anything.
The answer to your question is price & product segmentation. This is just a re-hash of their Metallic Gear Neo Mini & Neo-G Mini with mesh panel from their Eclipse Air series and using steel instead of aluminum to keep costs down. It's exactly why this is case is so cheap, they didn't have to do much retooling in the factory to produce this. You just were just describing the specs for their Eclipse P300A, it wouldn't make sense to modify Neo Mini/Neo-G Mini to accommodate ATX boards when they already have it covered. mATX form factor is also very unpopular according to motherboard manufacturers so case makers usually accommodate ATX or ITX.
Actually, height can matter. Sometimes the case has to fit underneath a shelf or behind the monitor in the corner. Also note that here in the UK houses are very much smaller than in the USA. Size does matter.
I think it is a bit too big for itx, just one pcie slot away from a micro atx. however also it looks designed for high end itx builds - front usb-c (only on expensive itx boards really), 3 slot gpu, space for water cooling. Thanks for checking it out and the build. Proper review.
when I recently upgraded my case , I seriously looked at that case.. Ultimately though I went with the phanteks p360a in white, wehich is a midtower atx case that shares a lot of the same design features. even though I have a mini itx (ASUS ROG STRIX z390-i gaming) board in it I have my 3070 vertically mounted .. and it fills the space quite nicely ... big factor for me? the power supply basement .. makes cable management so much easier and cleans up the overall look of the build.. and size wise you really only add vertical height for the most part.
Interestingly this ITX case has dimensions of 205mm width x 365mm height x 400mm depth and my Coolermaster Q500L that I bought after watching Graham's review of it is a full ATX case that has dimensions of 230mm width x 381mm height x 386mm depth. I think that if I want a small PC, I have made the better choice.
Great review. As a shopkeeper and reseller you have a different perspective to the usual review sites which is most useful. You mentioned the limited space on the ITX boards: that case looks like it could fit a mini-DTX board which is a wee bit bigger, has two PCIe slots, and has just that bit more room on the motherboard. Also, is there room to fit the two front fans to the outside of the case behind the mesh? I did that on my Kolink Citadel mATX case to create enough room for my RTX 3090. Something you might like to try when building in these small cases is to use a fully modular PSU and run the PSU cables but not actually fit the PSU itself until very late or even last so as to increase your working space inside the case.
There's room for a DTX board, but no additional stand-off holes. Not sure if DTX uses a 6-screw layout or not though, so maybe that doesn't matter. Might be interesting though, as the DTX boards do get the extra headers! Regarding the fans, yes I'd say you're right - it looks like that's how they expect you to do a two-rad set up in this thing, so you could theoretically have an AIO on the CPU and on the GPU.
Lol I mount my PSU fan down so the radiant heat coming off it isn't just rising to upper components..... Jk that's kinda the reason I've done it in the past however current case has the PSU shroud sooo you kinda HAVE to mount it fanside down. And both PCs I have are on a table/desk. Never on the floor wouldn't mind building a small system eventually too though (: thanks for the upload!!
Should have been filtered ventilation on top for the option of the PSU to be mounted fan-up, IMO. The side fan mounting position seems impractical to me. You're going to use the front fans or the side fans but would you ever use both? Truth be told I would maybe have rather seen an "attic" shroud that conceals the PSU more and sacrifice one of those 2.5"/fan mounts. I rather like the front I/O at the bottom. As seen in your comparison, this is barely smaller in overall volume than the 220T (or the likes of my Meshify 2 Compact), so unless you have a weird unique desk setup with very limited height where the case needs to wedge in I just don't see a lot of point to this.
I like the idea of the attic shroud. I'd be into that. It'd make space for a 3.5" bay as well. The NZXT H200i is a similar concept to this case, and that's got a 3.5" cage in the PSU shroud. Unfortunately it suffers from NZXT's poor airflow issues though. But yea, the 220T / Meshify 2C really does undermine the use of these cases unless you've got your heart set on ITX for some other reason.
@@Adamant_IT yeah the H210(i) seems like the obvious comparison here. Offhand I'd say this wins on cooling/airflow and front I/O but the NZXT might have the advantage in cable management and a couple perks like having a spot for a 3.5". Looks like H210 might actually be a bit smaller as well but I didn't go compare measurements.
I have the same MB in a Tower 100. No problems so far, not even the RGB as lackluster as it is. I would love to find an adapter to convert one of those red USB 3.2 gen 2 type A into a type E that runs into the type C on the case. I haven't found one yet.
Usually I'm more a fan of mATX (why go ATX, when you basically have no cards to plug in other than your GPU) but opt for ATX cases anyway because of the flexibility. Case and PSU are the most reusable components anyway.
Case would be good for a regular desktop but not really fit to bring around with that tempered glass cover unless you have solid cover (steel or acrylic) for travelling.
It allows them to do the full-length vent at the bottom, so the graphics card has clear airflow. Small cases like this often have problems with the graphics card being up against the PSU and/or PSU shroud. Only other way around this is a full inverted setup where the mobo is upside-down and graphics card points up at a top vent.
Hello sir, saw your dell monitor repair video, i have dell u2414h monitor, with the problem of black screen/no display, i visited the shop, guy there checked the screen and told me FL is the problem, other components are fine, but he is not telling me the actual cost for the repair. How much will it cost ? Im from india.
Hi Graham, wondering if you can help me here...? I recently(ish) upgraded my CPU from a 3200G I got brand new to a 3600 I got used on eBay, but I only got round to installing it recently and it gave me several BSODs which increased in frequency (which I wasn't getting with the 3200G) while merely trying to do music production and 3D modelling, even though my friend said he knows someone running a 3600 on the same board as mine (Gigabyte B450M DS3H) with no issue - even though there are better boards out there I don't think a 3600 is asking too much of it. I tried several things to try and get this CPU to be stable - swapping PSU cables, reseating my RAM and graphics card / trying different RAM configs, running hardware tests which all passed (including even the CPU stress tests, and no I wasn't using the box cooler while running them - 67°C max. while stressed on a Fuma 2), clearing CMOS, updating BIOS, updating chipset drivers... without any luck. Eventually I went into the BIOS and disabled the default automatic clock speed control setting that enabled the CPU to boost to up to 4.1GHz or downclock to down to as low as 1.7GHz depending on what was required. The CPU is currently running at a manually set fixed speed of 3625MHz (it bounces between 3.6GHz and 3.62GHz) and that way it's stable, but it should work on default settings, and as it's not boosting like this it only slightly outperforms a 1600 on its default settings according to my testing. I asked the seller for a refund/return but he said it's been too long (over 2 months), that the RAM could be the issue as "Ryzen is extremely picky with RAM" (I have 32GB / 4x8 of HyperX Fury 3200MT/s, half of which was part of the original bundle), that the CPU was working completely fine on both boards that he used it on (an MSI X570 Gaming Edge and an Asus Prime B450M-A), and that he got BSODs on his 5800X at default settings and a whole bunch of issues, and to fix it he has to use higher voltage on the RAM and loosen timings/frequency a little. Sorry this is long, but do you think I should open a case with eBay or do you think I should just try adjusting these RAM voltage/timing/frequency settings...? Thanks either way, Rowan
Yea I'd say that's a RAM issue. Reset everything to default settings again (so you CPU is boosting), then try running two modules, try testing with XMP turned off as well. If these have an effect, then make sure you're on the latest BIOS, and try under-running the RAM (if it's XMP 3400, run it at 3200, etc) and that may do the job.
@@Adamant_IT Thanks, I did change from 3200 to 3000 after I remembered your video where you do it on a "Fortnite box" and it's stable now so thanks a lot :)
I have a question about the PSU gpu cables. Let's say i can use a single cable on a 8+6 GPU, but is it better to use it, or use the 2nd cable that the modular PSU offer on the 6 pin?
Depends on the GPU. If you've got a good PSU with proper cabling on it, the dual-8-pin daisy chain will easily carry enough power for both connectors. The cable should be good for 500w no problem, well over what nearly any GPU could use. However, some big-boy graphics cards, especially stuff like the 3080, can pull nasty spikes of several hundred watts, and might get upset. Overclocking can also pull a lot of power, and might start loading up the PCI-E power cable. So the TL;DR is, one cable is generally enough, but if you've got a second cable, use it.
Height wise, they're only about 15mm off of mATX. But they'd also have to account for width, and that would mess up the side radiator mount config and everything. Although I feel like the side-mount isn't really useful anyway... seems like they sacrificed mATX, which would be useful to many, for dual-rad compatibility, which only a handful of people would ever use.
As long as the NR200P exists cases like the P200a have no reason to exist! If you want to go ssf you either go NR200P and down in size or you dont go SFF at all.
Why does the NR200P exist? I have a really hard job trying to understand why such a big case exists. I have multiple ITX systems and the biggest is a mere 2/3 of the size of the NR200P, the RVZ02. 🔥🔥🔥
@@aetch77 cases like the RVZ02 are very limited in their CPU cooling support. Cases like the NR200 are about as small as you can go while maintaining compatibility with "normal" sized components.
@@TimBoundy Reality check - if you're going SFF then "normal" sized components are a consideration but they're not the priority. If "normal" sized components are your priority you should really consider micro ATX at a minimum. Water coolers, although widely spread, are not normal. In fact, I consider the cooler packaged with the CPU as the normal cooler. Any 3rd party cooler you purchase to replace it is a luxury because you're spending extra money to replace something you already have. That said, I do have and use a variety of 3rd party air and water coolers.
@@aetch77 most of the higher end CPUs don't come with a cooler these days. The 5600X is the only current Ryzen chip that does come with a cooler. Looking at the last generation chips, the Wraith Stealth stock cooler fits, but the Wraith Spire and Wraith Prism coolers do not fit the RVZ02. I haven't checked the Intel cooler sizes but those chips run too hot to make running the stock cooler viable (if they even have one). You need a low profile 3rd party cooler which limits your thermal capacity. In the NR200 however you can easily fit a decent tower cooler or 280mm AIO which is going to be a massive step up over anything you can fit in the RVZ02. A mATX mobo doesn't really give you anything over an ITX mobo in many cases since the GPU blocks access to the other PCIe slots, and the motherboard isn't really the limiting factor to case size in many layouts. You can actually squeeze some mATX motherboards into the NR200. Plus the RVZ02 can't fit many of the recent GPUs as they're typically more like 2.5 slot thickness. It can fit long cards but not thick cards. The FE cards are usually a bit thinner, but NVIDIA only released those cards to select regions. The only cards available in my region are the thick board partner models. Cases like the NR200 can compete thermally with ATX cases whilst using the same top end parts, in a much smaller footprint, and all you're really losing is access to the extra PCIe slots. Cases like the RVZ02 are a lot more limiting, but they fill different roles.
@@TimBoundy Oh my god, you're right. I'd better run out and buy the NR200P to replace the RVZ02 I've been working with for the last 6 years and the SG05 for the last decade, I think not. ITX really isn't the platform for high-end systems. If you've got to go for a case big enough to support the micro atx platform you may as well get a case that actually supports said micro atx platform and get the better/bigger/cheaper selection of components.
Yea I was editing this video in a hurry and got lazy - adding in the post screen required me to transcode another section of the raw footage. Wouldn't have taken long though I have to admit. Anyway, here's a screencap from the recording rig's raw output for posterity: imgur.com/bAFvViG
Love this case. Glad to see the video
I bought a 5000D after watching your videos. It is my favorite now. That Phanteks is cute though.
Front fans fit nicely outside and then the 280mm radiator does not interfere with the power button, also better to use 140mm fans for the 280mm AIO. Maybe with the fans outside the AIO would fit with the hoses down too.
Would have been nice, if those removable plastic cover plates (6:00) had a channel built into the left end for cable routing.
finally a new LBC/LFC
Right!?!???
Love your viideos. Keep up the good work!!!!
Tested it and was going back to NR200 due better temps
Hello love from India ❤️ , a humble request to make video on video recording setup and tools you use. ❤️😀😘
Coming soon!
Here's my problem with "small" form factor, it's not small, and saves no space.
If you have your computer on your desk to your right, and if that case is a conventional tower in which the expansion cards plug into the motherboard directly at a right-angle, motherboard size doesn't matter, because the motherboard only occupies vertical space, and people don't arrange their surroundings vertically. Any conventional tower case will occupy an identical footprint, regardless of motherboard size.
This case could be 2cm taller, and fit mATX boards, or 8cm taller, and fit ATX...so why isn't it? What were you going to fit in your room which now will not fit because your PC case is 2cm, or 8cm taller? The answer, I think everyone will realise, is nothing.
Good point.
I really don't care about the height of the case. I'd much rather if they made it slim so it could stay more flush with the wall if anything.
Totally true, go big or go really small. This is a micro atx case with one slot missing.
Same thought here. Sort of like a "tiny" home, on a ten acre lot. Why?
The answer to your question is price & product segmentation.
This is just a re-hash of their Metallic Gear Neo Mini & Neo-G Mini with mesh panel from their Eclipse Air series and using steel instead of aluminum to keep costs down. It's exactly why this is case is so cheap, they didn't have to do much retooling in the factory to produce this.
You just were just describing the specs for their Eclipse P300A, it wouldn't make sense to modify Neo Mini/Neo-G Mini to accommodate ATX boards when they already have it covered.
mATX form factor is also very unpopular according to motherboard manufacturers so case makers usually accommodate ATX or ITX.
Actually, height can matter. Sometimes the case has to fit underneath a shelf or behind the monitor in the corner. Also note that here in the UK houses are very much smaller than in the USA. Size does matter.
Ayy. It is a nice looking case.
I think it is a bit too big for itx, just one pcie slot away from a micro atx. however also it looks designed for high end itx builds - front usb-c (only on expensive itx boards really), 3 slot gpu, space for water cooling. Thanks for checking it out and the build. Proper review.
I bought SEKIRA 500X and I am satisfied in 100%
Not bad. I like that it doesn't look too flashy but I would be woried if I could fit all my drives in there.
Yep, it's always a good thing to be able to limit how many Noodley Boys you have to connect to your front panel header!
when I recently upgraded my case , I seriously looked at that case.. Ultimately though I went with the phanteks p360a in white, wehich is a midtower atx case that shares a lot of the same design features. even though I have a mini itx (ASUS ROG STRIX z390-i gaming) board in it I have my 3070 vertically mounted .. and it fills the space quite nicely ... big factor for me? the power supply basement .. makes cable management so much easier and cleans up the overall look of the build.. and size wise you really only add vertical height for the most part.
I love the color theme on the computer you have in the background. What is or was that used for?
Why didn't you placed the rad the other way round?
seeing the PSU at the top makes it seem like it's a case from 20 years ago
Can you put the front fans in front of the case behind the mesh?
Yes you can 👌
Why not install the m.2 drive,ram,cpu cooler before putting the motherboard in the case?
Interestingly this ITX case has dimensions of 205mm width x 365mm height x 400mm depth and my Coolermaster Q500L that I bought after watching Graham's review of it is a full ATX case that has dimensions of 230mm width x 381mm height x 386mm depth.
I think that if I want a small PC, I have made the better choice.
Great review. As a shopkeeper and reseller you have a different perspective to the usual review sites which is most useful.
You mentioned the limited space on the ITX boards: that case looks like it could fit a mini-DTX board which is a wee bit bigger, has two PCIe slots, and has just that bit more room on the motherboard. Also, is there room to fit the two front fans to the outside of the case behind the mesh? I did that on my Kolink Citadel mATX case to create enough room for my RTX 3090.
Something you might like to try when building in these small cases is to use a fully modular PSU and run the PSU cables but not actually fit the PSU itself until very late or even last so as to increase your working space inside the case.
There's room for a DTX board, but no additional stand-off holes. Not sure if DTX uses a 6-screw layout or not though, so maybe that doesn't matter. Might be interesting though, as the DTX boards do get the extra headers!
Regarding the fans, yes I'd say you're right - it looks like that's how they expect you to do a two-rad set up in this thing, so you could theoretically have an AIO on the CPU and on the GPU.
Love the case, Might buy one to replace an old Thermaltake Z11 Plus case with Mini ATX build.
Lol I mount my PSU fan down so the radiant heat coming off it isn't just rising to upper components.....
Jk that's kinda the reason I've done it in the past however current case has the PSU shroud sooo you kinda HAVE to mount it fanside down. And both PCs I have are on a table/desk. Never on the floor
wouldn't mind building a small system eventually too though (:
thanks for the upload!!
Should have been filtered ventilation on top for the option of the PSU to be mounted fan-up, IMO.
The side fan mounting position seems impractical to me. You're going to use the front fans or the side fans but would you ever use both? Truth be told I would maybe have rather seen an "attic" shroud that conceals the PSU more and sacrifice one of those 2.5"/fan mounts.
I rather like the front I/O at the bottom.
As seen in your comparison, this is barely smaller in overall volume than the 220T (or the likes of my Meshify 2 Compact), so unless you have a weird unique desk setup with very limited height where the case needs to wedge in I just don't see a lot of point to this.
I like the idea of the attic shroud. I'd be into that. It'd make space for a 3.5" bay as well. The NZXT H200i is a similar concept to this case, and that's got a 3.5" cage in the PSU shroud. Unfortunately it suffers from NZXT's poor airflow issues though.
But yea, the 220T / Meshify 2C really does undermine the use of these cases unless you've got your heart set on ITX for some other reason.
@@Adamant_IT yeah the H210(i) seems like the obvious comparison here. Offhand I'd say this wins on cooling/airflow and front I/O but the NZXT might have the advantage in cable management and a couple perks like having a spot for a 3.5". Looks like H210 might actually be a bit smaller as well but I didn't go compare measurements.
great review m8
I have the same MB in a Tower 100. No problems so far, not even the RGB as lackluster as it is. I would love to find an adapter to convert one of those red USB 3.2 gen 2 type A into a type E that runs into the type C on the case. I haven't found one yet.
Can you turn off the RGB lights? Most PCs are in bedrooms.
Yes, there is an Off pre-set, or you can also disconnect the RGB wires, or turn them off in software if you're connected to an ARGB header.
Usually I'm more a fan of mATX (why go ATX, when you basically have no cards to plug in other than your GPU) but opt for ATX cases anyway because of the flexibility. Case and PSU are the most reusable components anyway.
Intro music?
Case would be good for a regular desktop but not really fit to bring around with that tempered glass cover unless you have solid cover (steel or acrylic) for travelling.
Hi, just want to know what is the benefit of having the PSU on top in this case? thank you 🙏🏼
It allows them to do the full-length vent at the bottom, so the graphics card has clear airflow. Small cases like this often have problems with the graphics card being up against the PSU and/or PSU shroud. Only other way around this is a full inverted setup where the mobo is upside-down and graphics card points up at a top vent.
@@Adamant_IT Ok. thanks Graham.🙏🏼
Hello sir, saw your dell monitor repair video, i have dell u2414h monitor, with the problem of black screen/no display, i visited the shop, guy there checked the screen and told me FL is the problem, other components are fine, but he is not telling me the actual cost for the repair.
How much will it cost ? Im from india.
nice case good video
Hi Graham, wondering if you can help me here...? I recently(ish) upgraded my CPU from a 3200G I got brand new to a 3600 I got used on eBay, but I only got round to installing it recently and it gave me several BSODs which increased in frequency (which I wasn't getting with the 3200G) while merely trying to do music production and 3D modelling, even though my friend said he knows someone running a 3600 on the same board as mine (Gigabyte B450M DS3H) with no issue - even though there are better boards out there I don't think a 3600 is asking too much of it.
I tried several things to try and get this CPU to be stable - swapping PSU cables, reseating my RAM and graphics card / trying different RAM configs, running hardware tests which all passed (including even the CPU stress tests, and no I wasn't using the box cooler while running them - 67°C max. while stressed on a Fuma 2), clearing CMOS, updating BIOS, updating chipset drivers... without any luck.
Eventually I went into the BIOS and disabled the default automatic clock speed control setting that enabled the CPU to boost to up to 4.1GHz or downclock to down to as low as 1.7GHz depending on what was required. The CPU is currently running at a manually set fixed speed of 3625MHz (it bounces between 3.6GHz and 3.62GHz) and that way it's stable, but it should work on default settings, and as it's not boosting like this it only slightly outperforms a 1600 on its default settings according to my testing.
I asked the seller for a refund/return but he said it's been too long (over 2 months), that the RAM could be the issue as "Ryzen is extremely picky with RAM" (I have 32GB / 4x8 of HyperX Fury 3200MT/s, half of which was part of the original bundle), that the CPU was working completely fine on both boards that he used it on (an MSI X570 Gaming Edge and an Asus Prime B450M-A), and that he got BSODs on his 5800X at default settings and a whole bunch of issues, and to fix it he has to use higher voltage on the RAM and loosen timings/frequency a little.
Sorry this is long, but do you think I should open a case with eBay or do you think I should just try adjusting these RAM voltage/timing/frequency settings...?
Thanks either way,
Rowan
Yea I'd say that's a RAM issue. Reset everything to default settings again (so you CPU is boosting), then try running two modules, try testing with XMP turned off as well. If these have an effect, then make sure you're on the latest BIOS, and try under-running the RAM (if it's XMP 3400, run it at 3200, etc) and that may do the job.
@@Adamant_IT Thanks, I did change from 3200 to 3000 after I remembered your video where you do it on a "Fortnite box" and it's stable now so thanks a lot :)
I have a question about the PSU gpu cables.
Let's say i can use a single cable on a 8+6 GPU, but is it better to use it, or use the 2nd cable that the modular PSU offer on the 6 pin?
Depends on the GPU. If you've got a good PSU with proper cabling on it, the dual-8-pin daisy chain will easily carry enough power for both connectors. The cable should be good for 500w no problem, well over what nearly any GPU could use.
However, some big-boy graphics cards, especially stuff like the 3080, can pull nasty spikes of several hundred watts, and might get upset. Overclocking can also pull a lot of power, and might start loading up the PCI-E power cable.
So the TL;DR is, one cable is generally enough, but if you've got a second cable, use it.
@@Adamant_IT I have a RX 5700 XT, PSU is middle ground i would say, EVGA 750W Bronze, BQ if i recall
i really like this case but i feel like they could have made it work with micro atx as well without even having to make it bigger
Height wise, they're only about 15mm off of mATX. But they'd also have to account for width, and that would mess up the side radiator mount config and everything.
Although I feel like the side-mount isn't really useful anyway... seems like they sacrificed mATX, which would be useful to many, for dual-rad compatibility, which only a handful of people would ever use.
I prefer SFF builds. Thanks for the video.
Nice case but too big for just an itx, just my opinion, would be OK if it took micro-atx
Yeah i must agree.
with microatx and sff PSU case would be the same size or might be even smaller.
Hmm... I think I'll do a build and put the AIO sideways just to really piss everyone off.
I'd have tried it if I had a 240mm rad on hand... but there was no way I'd have mounted the 280 there.
I'm surprised the 280 fit. Too bad they didn't put 140mm mounts up front. I mean... it looks like it was possible.
As long as the NR200P exists cases like the P200a have no reason to exist! If you want to go ssf you either go NR200P and down in size or you dont go SFF at all.
Why does the NR200P exist?
I have a really hard job trying to understand why such a big case exists. I have multiple ITX systems and the biggest is a mere 2/3 of the size of the NR200P, the RVZ02. 🔥🔥🔥
@@aetch77 cases like the RVZ02 are very limited in their CPU cooling support. Cases like the NR200 are about as small as you can go while maintaining compatibility with "normal" sized components.
@@TimBoundy Reality check - if you're going SFF then "normal" sized components are a consideration but they're not the priority. If "normal" sized components are your priority you should really consider micro ATX at a minimum.
Water coolers, although widely spread, are not normal. In fact, I consider the cooler packaged with the CPU as the normal cooler. Any 3rd party cooler you purchase to replace it is a luxury because you're spending extra money to replace something you already have. That said, I do have and use a variety of 3rd party air and water coolers.
@@aetch77 most of the higher end CPUs don't come with a cooler these days. The 5600X is the only current Ryzen chip that does come with a cooler. Looking at the last generation chips, the Wraith Stealth stock cooler fits, but the Wraith Spire and Wraith Prism coolers do not fit the RVZ02. I haven't checked the Intel cooler sizes but those chips run too hot to make running the stock cooler viable (if they even have one). You need a low profile 3rd party cooler which limits your thermal capacity. In the NR200 however you can easily fit a decent tower cooler or 280mm AIO which is going to be a massive step up over anything you can fit in the RVZ02. A mATX mobo doesn't really give you anything over an ITX mobo in many cases since the GPU blocks access to the other PCIe slots, and the motherboard isn't really the limiting factor to case size in many layouts. You can actually squeeze some mATX motherboards into the NR200.
Plus the RVZ02 can't fit many of the recent GPUs as they're typically more like 2.5 slot thickness. It can fit long cards but not thick cards. The FE cards are usually a bit thinner, but NVIDIA only released those cards to select regions. The only cards available in my region are the thick board partner models.
Cases like the NR200 can compete thermally with ATX cases whilst using the same top end parts, in a much smaller footprint, and all you're really losing is access to the extra PCIe slots. Cases like the RVZ02 are a lot more limiting, but they fill different roles.
@@TimBoundy Oh my god, you're right. I'd better run out and buy the NR200P to replace the RVZ02 I've been working with for the last 6 years and the SG05 for the last decade, I think not.
ITX really isn't the platform for high-end systems. If you've got to go for a case big enough to support the micro atx platform you may as well get a case that actually supports said micro atx platform and get the better/bigger/cheaper selection of components.
I really don't like SFF cases, I prefer cases with space like the one I have now Sahara P75 is pretty big and can accomodate 12 case fans
lol @ "you should not be bottom intaking"
Could you please show the post screen instead of just saying, "it posted".
Yea I was editing this video in a hurry and got lazy - adding in the post screen required me to transcode another section of the raw footage. Wouldn't have taken long though I have to admit. Anyway, here's a screencap from the recording rig's raw output for posterity: imgur.com/bAFvViG
He has "a little bit of a buldge" (in the case)
nice case good video