How futurists foresaw AI and automation being used: “We created this technology to take over your repetitive, dead end job, thus freeing you, the mortal human, for more leisure or creative efforts.” How it’s actually being used: “We’ve created this machine to churn out auto-generated art, thus giving you, the mortal human, more time to spend grinding it out at your dead-end, repetitive job.”
See, this is what people don't understand about automation. The food industry is what the world looks like post automation. Instead of learning how to make bread, biscuits, and lots of interesting things, everyone just toasts pre-baked loaves. We won't have the best things. We have the most stale, lifeless, boring things. And everything is the same. Knowledge is lost. Skill is lost.
Maybe the world could look to the example of Japan's adoption of hi tech automation for use in small businesses as an alternative for some jobs lost/degraded in the much more monolithic corporate pipelines elsewhere.
@@EvilWeiRamirez I agree with some of your points, but really, if we lived in a sane society, workers would welcome automation, not fear it. The whole reason why humans create machines in the first place is to do dangerous or repetitive labor, the idea being that the human worker would then enjoy more leisure or can devote their efforts to more creative tasks. Instead, so far every advance in technology has led to workers producing more and working harder for increasingly lower wages. I'm not advocating that we go all Unabomber, but there is clearly a larger problem when it comes to our society and work and unfortunately, machines can't solve it for us. Seriously, read Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber. Changed my life and will forever change how you think about work.
The concentration of productive capacity under artificial intelligence increases the bargaining power and political power of capital. Under capitalism there is an inherent bias towards the profitability of capital at the expense of labor, local communities, global communities, and the planet. We must create unions and cooperatives to stop this bias toward the wealthy.
Did you know that according to the only book that truly defines capitalism, An Inquiry Into The Nature And Causes Of The Wealth Of Nations, that the only business model that is inherently capitalist is actually the cooperative business model? See, according to Adam Smith, who came up with the concept of capitalism, in order for an economic system of any size to be considered capitalist, every single person in that system must be able to capitalize on their position in that system. He says that when there’s an owner and a management class (that might also have some level of ownership) and then there’s the whole workforce and they don’t own a piece of the company, that’s anti-capitalist because the workers don’t own a fair piece of the company and therefore cannot capitalize upon their position within that system. Cooperative business models where the people who work at a place own that place, that is capitalism according to the man who invented the term and it’s definition. What we need to do is take back this definition and shove it in the faces of those who claim to be capitalist but are instead hardline corporate socialists (not the good kind of socialist who wants the same thing every rational thinking person wants, no instead think Mussolini or Hitler, the authoritarian and economically corrupt kind of socialist). When the ruling class takes a word and applies it to something entirely different to the point that most people think capitalism=American economics, we lose the ability to communicate and organize properly. Word’s true definitions are as important as accurately describing the reality. And the reality is, these people call their brand of authoritarianism, economic manipulation, and exploitation of the public “capitalism” because they know that the kind of system laid out in the Wealth of Nations as capitalism would see their empire destroyed and the power back in the hands of the workers. I’m not even a capitalist, because in order to have a society like what’s laid out in the book you need to have a central State and I am personally so tired of Statist systems. I’m not even saying I know the answer cause I don’t, but I do know from reading the book that this system we have isn’t capitalism, and that true capitalism by the book seems like a lot more of a step in the right direction than the total opposite thing we’re doing now that is referred to inaccurately as “capitalism”. In fact I don’t see how you can have true capitalism and corporate structures in the same system, they are anathema, especially the multinational. Like I was saying above, the only business model, aside from a one human shop, that fits the true capitalist system is cooperative business.
@@BigTrees4ever There were many capitalist theorists. According to the metaphysical philosophy of John Locke, wage labor is essentially renting yourself via "self ownership". Employment is literally renting another human being as if they're property. Employment is a rental contract, like if you rented capital (say, a chainsaw from Home Depot), you pay rent for the "time preference" (basically the cost of time) for a piece of property. Capitalism is based on a principle of self ownership, which sounds empowering, until you realize that most people don't own enough capital goods to make enough income other than themselves, and must rent out the authority over themselves as pieces of "human capital". This is a process of dehumanization where human beings are valued for their return on investment as capital goods. This is why, at the very least, capitalism needs unions and safety nets (or abolishment), or else the system won't value people for their human value. Importantly we must also think about our sick, elderly, and disabled people, as they can't provide competitive economic return for the investor class to value. We must figure out a way to change this economic system if we wish to value each other. "Taking back the word capitalism" isn't going to save us, we need social ownership of the means of production to make economic democracy a Right, just like political democracy is a Right. E: you really call Hitler a socialist?? 🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼 Next the DPRK with be 'democratic'. Please, take some time to learn some more political philosophy.
bias towards to the wealthy is the whole point of capitalism. it's made to benefit those with captial. it's going to continue destroying every good until it's regulated to hell and back. regulated so hard to eventually it disappears and we all have excess.
the main problem with AI writers is that execs have already proven they dont care about writing and are terrible at telling good from bad. so they wont even be able to tell the difference between a crappy AI script and a great handwritten one. so not only will there be less jobs for writers, the writing for every show and movie will get even worse than they already are (which is pretty bad most of the time).
Actually the numbers show it's the general public that doesn't care about writing (and are terrible at telling good from bad -- okay, that last point being a personal opinion). Content consumption is a passive experience.
Is it any worse than not paying reality tv stars for writing. You know that on "Who's Line Is It Anyway" they were never paid writing royalties because of the improvisational aspect of the show.
Adam Connover perhaps said it best: if you start the negotiation with a just in case of not being shot and the other side doesn't want to agree, you begin to think they're out to kill you.
🤔 I wonder if someone could use AI to simulate the decisions of a typical CEO? Could They justify their salaries if a machine could do their job as good or better?
"Human experience is a different thing than ones and zeroes." So well said. 👍👏 AI will NEVER be able to copy human behavior, because we're all UNIQUE!!
You might imagine yourself a steel driven man John Henry, but that AI juggernaut is going to win in the long run. Pretty soon we're all going to own nothing and I don't think we'll be happy. We are moving towards a W E F sponsored neo-feudalist dystopia where the wealthy might keep a few hundred million of us for entertainment purposes. Artificial General Intelligence will replace us all.
AI just steals stuff, just like how all the AI generated art is stolen from actual artists who post their work on the web. If AI didn't have any access to that artwork, it would have nothing to produce because it lacks the skills and creativity of people.
@biteofdog I know it's nice to live in a fantasy world. Nearly 3 years ago your fantasy was shattered with alpha go which teaches itself from nothing. What the public sees now is where AI was at years ago. Buckle up!
@@biteofdog Might be comforting to believe that. Time will tell I guess. I'm old enough to remember when most of the clever folk were sure that there never would be a chess program capable of playing at masters level.
AI as we've come to know it isn't actually true AI. It's just a buzzword. That one actress is correct. AI is just "plagiarism software." It can only work with the information you give it. It cannot generate something original on its own.
As formulaic and predictable as these shows have gotten, to think that AI can be used to endlessly remix and rehash existing material into new episodes is insanity. The studio execs certainly don't care about quality any more than they do about working folks.
I have started watching foreign TV shows. You can tell Americans have been skimping on writers for a bit now. And they think all AI will make that better. 🙄
@@nuance9000 Movies with billion dollar hauls are all based on existing brands/franchises. I hope fervently the younger generation will break this cycle of mediocrity. We'll have to wait and see if something truly original is supported by the public to the same degree as movies based on Barbie dolls and 80s video games.
I read a YT comment months ago where someone predicted this... about feeding all of the L&O scripts to AI to write a new episode or season and it would work. It's too tempting for media companies to not try... all of this text is there just sitting ready to be fed into the machine and then edited by a professional writer. That's just the script ....all of this artist likeness stuff is downright evil and should be banned.
And as AI tech continues to evolve it will get better and better at producing formula that is indistinguishable from what comes out of the so-called "writers rooms".
@@troubadour723 NO no it will not. You of all people should know about that, having "Omar Khayyam" as your profile name. If you ask an AI to write some series about him, It would write some Euro-centeric thing. It knows series about Leonardo Da Vinci but not any Muslim scientist. And if you are open minded enough for Oman Khayaam, you think AI could come up with "The Message" in any respectful way? As an AI developer, I can tell you it could not. It could not come up with that movie's technique for not showing the Prophet Sallah Aalih Wasalm or the four caliphs, it could not have found a way to center the story around other people. Same with Miss Marvel. There is no prior data for any show about a Muslim superhero in the west or the creative way they show the partition in a PG13 rating, and doing that in a larger overall series(the MCU) where the very first villain was an Urdu speaking Pakistani American. I don't even agree with the content of the show they are talking about here. I HATE it, I HATE its far-right director, I hate the propaganda it spreads, I even hate its conservative target audience. As an AI developer myself, I even stand to gain if they replace people with AI. I STILL don't want these people out of a job, I still want the writers room, even for a show I absolutely HATE. I want people to be able to feed themselves, I want writers to have a starting job on shit-shows like this, I want new actors coming in as extras from crap like this.
@@jhonshephard921 I adopted the Omar Khayyam moniker for my YT account when I was involved in a stage production of the Rubaiyat some years ago. I will change it.
Why is it evil exactly? It is not illegal to write stories that take inspiration from others, if you want to ban that then were gonna end up with 99% of all stories banned. There would only be 1 story for every genre, everything else made in the same genre would be considered plagiarism.
@@jhonshephard921the only way you can achieve that is if you ban ai development, and you know there is no stopping it. Those that will lose jobs need to be supported, those that remain must learn how to market themselves and their works faster than an ai can learn and generate copies of their work.
My favorite part was when the studio bought people's likeness for all of time throughout the universe. That seems fair, and perfectly non-exploitative, nor in any way does it treat human beings as objects. Not at all.
Imagine you're a background actor and you agree to be 3D scanned. They can use your face, your image for anything, even the sex orgy scene in "Eyes Wide Shut".
Have you covered the topic of franchises or "partnering" with a corporation and how they are a curse hiding as a blessing? I know they have brought some people opportunities, but I feel like they are behind why America and Americans are so wasteful and also why all our capital seems to spend no time in our local communities. It would be interesting to know more local business owners' views on the subject and if they think capital can stay local within the franchisee model.
Wow. What a great piece. This moment in the entertainment industry is arguably the most important in its history. This is a great illustration of that.
The contract excerpt quoted in the video, for those interested: "I irrevocably grant to the production company all rights of every kind and nature to the results and proceeds of all my services for the work they represented in the voucher, including, without reservation, all of my likenesses, poses, acts, plays, sounds, and appearances, made by me, to be used or not used, in any manner that the production company chooses, throughout the universe, in perpetuity, in all media, whether now known or thereafter devised."
Contracts with broad and vague permissions like this should be made illegal! I've only ever seen them used to screw people over, whether it's actors, other workers, or even social media users.
"I grant the production companies all rights to go f**k themselves." Seriously folks, we gotta stop being whores. It gives the bosses all the leverage.
If Hollywood wins on this and any worker below a certain floor gets fired to be replaced by AI with no repercussions, it will be a horribly dangerous precedent for any other job. The moment some AI would be implemented at your workplace, business owners would be granted to fire you without any form of protection. "Because Hollywood did and it would be unfair if I can't do the same". We should all side with the workers on this, regardless of how much you like or hate what they produce.
Technology is coming for every job. It is how we adapt and use it in our day to day matters. Look at live theater and live performances of dance, & music. Still widely valued today. We are likely going to be moving into a world where day to day "filler" for shows gets automated but all "the good stuff" is still done with human talent. We are in a strange time in human history for sure.
The idea of scanning somebody and being able to use their image in perpetuity is horrible. You, essentially, can never turn down a role, because that's the new reality with these contracts. eg, "You don't wanna portray a certain character due to moral objections?" "Too bad, company owns your face"
Infinite capacity to create mediocre, heartless, somehow fake shows will take the "thousand channels and nothing to watch" effect and amplify it until it decimates the companies where its used. The very essence of attending an artistic event is to receive from the hard won efforts and subsequent insights, and from the awakened talents, of fellow beings. Perhaps a bright light could be a replatforming of these at risk artists into economically viable companies outside the monopolies, enabled finally to truly take hold at scale as the ease of running internet media platforms really kicks in and eats these executives and capital holders lunches. There are plenty of examples already.
What's disturbing and frightening is Michael Chricton predicted this back in 1981 in his movie Looker. It's not a great movie but it was ahead of it's time with 3D computer scanning of live actors, film sets and voices. The evil tech company in this case is Digital Matrix who primarily works with tv commercial models. They convince the models to have plastic surgery for correcting slight flaws so they'll be perfect according to market research generated algorithms, have the models sign lifelong contracts with the promise of being paid in perpetuity then murdering them thus owning their likenesses without having to pay anyone. There are other fictional high tech things like Deep Fakes and light guns that induce temporary amnesia and mimic seizures so they can defame or murder prominent politicians inorder to keep the oligarchs in power. We now have Deep Fakes so what's next?
I don't understand why people are against the strikes, most people make less than enough to live and the work is long and done out of passion, we need to get rid of making money just to live, then we can finally move past this nonsense.
The majority of cop shows are sponsored by actual police departments, who almost always require that policing be portrayed in a positive light. That's why it's so rare to see a TV show highlighting bad police practices or the need for reform.
@@InventorZahran Yup. In particular, Law & Order's producer, Dick Wolf, described himself as "unabashedly pro-law enforcement." John Oliver did a great Last Week Tonight on the franchise.
I get you don’t like the show, neither do I, however, it’s the greater story about how AI is driving out writers and background actors, and what that can mean to other expressions of art, including ones we love and cherish deeply.
Such a by-the-numbers show protecting the establishment & the rich holding it up that it could be one of many shows, including all reality TV, to be written entirely by AI and no one would notice
The writers need to win this battle. AI needs to lose this battle everywhere. It doesn't produce quality. It just produces things that look similar to quality. That's always the absolute worst stuff. Everything feels like a cheap knock off.
The language of that contract waiving the actors rights illustrates how the elite really believe they're going to hang tight in their bunkers for a bit until their spaceships are ready to take them to second-earth where the will live forever...
One aspect not covered here is that A.I. has the capability to generate new content based on existing materials. The user, a real human, can then manually edit this content multiple times to create something entirely novel and unrecognizable, all while avoiding copyright infringement. The lead writer mentioned that they incorporate real human experiences into their scripts. This raises questions about whether this is exploiting people's life stories for profit. It's essential to recognize that everything we create is a fusion of preexisting elements or ideas. A.I. essentially repurposes what humans share on the Internet, much like a photographer captures images of existing subjects. It doesn't create from scratch; it reorganizes existing content. Therefore, A.I. itself isn't the adversary; rather, it's the human users who require regulation. Copyright laws already safeguard human likeness and voice, so what major studios are doing is pushing the boundaries of their employees' work. They're testing how far they can go before legal challenges arise. While you can't take A.I. to court, individuals who misuse the technology are legally accountable. Hence, the focus should be on regulating and monitoring the human users who abuse the technology, rather than targeting the technology itself.
Writers incorporate their own experiences into the scripts. That's how it sounded to me. And I can guarantee that happens. Though 100% yes, writers also use the experiences of other people. But if you want to call that out, you need to include all the novels that were ever written. Because how do you think authors are able to create realistic characters and dialogue? Just be assured we rarely use you as such. Most of the time it's just the vibes of a certain kind of person or how they talk.
Right Message. Absolutely WRONG SHOW to use as an example. I want writers and performers to have better jobs than producing propaganda for the gang which puts the boot on all workers' necks.
Why did you guys not ask the former show runner of Law and Order SVU questions about how the show portrays police officers in a good light in order to get tax exemptions to film it in New York
Well I learned something new. Unfortunately I am not at all surprised to learn of it. All the sneaky shady crap going on, seems to be bubbling to the surface rapidly. I'm glad you shared it, thanks
It is crappy what is going on with the entertainment industry; however, there are many other jobs in danger of becoming obsolete. Jobs that are not in the spotlight have already or will soon be made obsolete. That said, this is somewhat of a natural evolution. We've seen this sort of thing before because it happens whenever there is a big jump in technological advances. For example, when radio shows converted to television or silent films became talkies. I will say that it is good that the entertainment industry is bringing attention to this matter IF it results in getting better guarantees for people in every walk of life...not just the entertainment industry.
I’ve stopped watching TV because it was vapid and completely uninteresting. I do have a subscription to STARZ so I can watch OUTLANDER. That’s it. When that series is over, I’m completely through with the medium.
The idea that theyre not going to lose a ton of money on absurd and unwatchable projects is absolutely delulu but thats what the rich and powerful are best at being
As someone who enjoys writing as a form of art and expression, the idea of Hollywood using AI to create a scripts and movies and tv shows, just to keep more money in THEIR pockets, is insulting to the craft as a whole. It isn’t art if a machine makes it. It will have no soul or meaning behind it. You need the human element to create the art.
The fact that it's hard for people in charge (directors, producers, execs, what-have-you) to say no to AI tools and just continue working with humans is ridiculous.
Good, I hope AI crushes shows like Law and Order. They alter our view of the justice system. They spread fear and paranoia. They go far beyond simple murder mysteries. Maybe there will be protections, but who will stop hobbyists from creating movies and shows that compete with traditional studios? This is becoming a reality. ❤
Anybody ever get an icky, sinking feeling watching shows like Law & Order? There's a reason for that. Might i direct you to the "copaganda" episode of the podcast Citations Needed with Nima Shirazi & Adam Johnson (i hope i got those names right). It's very informative.
Anyone who thinks that artificial intelligence is going to take artist's jobs have never used it and are definitely probably not artists themselves. Artificial intelligence isn't that bad of a tool and it has some utility even in creating art itself but it's just the amount and the expensiveness of what it cost to get anything good out of it is way more than just having an actual artist do something as well most of it's utility would probably be in the line of something like filling in the blanks like look our tools are going to get better or computers in our artificial intelligence are absolutely going to get better but that does not eliminate jobs I mean it does but at the same token you know we weren't hiring people to draw those extra panels anyway The only reason why companies have improved anything is cuz we've made demands and through the free market we do want the better products and that's the only reason why they make things better but they don't do anything more better than they have to and realistically they're not going to hire more people to share the profits around just to give people jobs they don't give a f*** if there's 30 people that can draw who are all starving that could draw the extra frames that an anime needs they don't care they want to keep those billions for themselves even though they'd only have to maybe pay or shell out a couple of millions just so that way these guys can eat while providing customers with a better product at the end of the day it's like they want the blame to go on the tools a bit when the reality is it's the system it's capitalist it's the fact that we don't share wealth at the bottom and that it's really not improving tools that are the problem it's the capitalist it's the capitalism system
I've tested ChatGPT enough to know how repetitive characters can act and how bland scenarios often play out. It SHOULD NOT be the industry standard. Ever.
It's strange really. Actors etc. really can get into trouble for what they must do when the scripts demand of them. Imagine my scanned profile being used to generate a racist prick, I being unaware of it, and then getting sued for being a racist prick. The studios have all the money and not a second to think the basics through? Wow!
😂 comparing generative AI to plagiarism is absolutely laughable. All artists are plagiarists to the knowledge they took from their surroundings. Shut up with the plagiarism crap.
@@FainTMako generative AI works without understanding of principles behind things and without any ability to check that it's correct without specific instructions detailing how and why. It copies what it's seen, and puts those parts together in the way that is asked. People can, such as the writer spoke about in the video, understand the wider sociological issues or physical/practical limitations, and where and why the AI is incorrect. Those are all issues that plagiarism has in academia; without proper understanding of the topic, you just end up copying the wrong things. If you understand how generative AI works, and how plagiarism works and its problems, then it's obvious.
Humans have the same problems. People speak without truly understand the principles behind things yet we reason about them and abstract away what we dont understand. Its obvious that this is in no way plagiarism. All of your points really have very little to do with AI if you spend any amount of time actually thinking about what you just wrote..@@geoffreymartin6363
On the one hand, screw law and order specifically. On the other hand, as things are now, good luck actually rendering so many background characters every single week, even with their likenesses. That said, they should be compensated for life, as long as we continue using money. Not to say that a likeness should be treated like property in the sense that a copyright is private property, but in the personal sense: a likeness is personal data, and the individual should have a right to control the use of personal data during their life.
There is absolutely no possible way to avoid the creation of profit generating efficencies. There is no universe where a union contract can prevent AI from becoming a tool if AI can be a tool. (If it can happen. It will happen) Therefore your only course of action is to handle the consequences of its rise. I suggest ALL unions strike for the same goal: Enshrine co-determination (hybrid worker elected and share holder elected) boards into constitutional all. Germany (among others) was able to establish permanent labor invement/capital investment peace inside their corporate institutions because EVERY decision was a JOINT decision. Any goal short of this is asking to have the same fight later down the line. You cant break the loop unless you take away the need for the loop.
When everyone is jobless they will revolt against the artificial and demand a return to the organic. We would all be doing this now if not for the insufferable pretentiousness of artists and the smooth maneuvering of the artifice merchants. Everything that is real and unmediated is expensive and difficult. The mediated caters to the masses with all of the bumps sanded off.
Our entire human existence has been in make our life easier so we don't have to work so hard, AI come from that. Also, AI uses our inputas well so it's not all AI. We can't create forever, take advantage of AI. So much more to learn
This is something that is actually disgusting. It spits in the face of what art stands for and it’s absolutely unacceptable that companies who are ALREADY MAKING RECORD PROFITS are (currently) legally allowed to do this. If we have overwhelming support for ending this abusive anti-human tumor of a technology then we should let them know out opinion. LOUDLY. That Secret Invasion show that used AI to “make” its intro? Cancel your Disney+ Subscription and say it was because of that. Contact your representative and say how absolutely putrid this is and that anyone who votes on protecting it won’t get your support. Donate to support the WGA strike going on right now, they’re being bled dry and forced into homelessness by the pigs that are trying to wait them out. And if they don’t listen, there’ll be hell to pay. Anyone can change the world with enough bravery. Be that person.
Fighting to protect jobs against AI is basically fighting to the death for scraps against the terminator with a plastic fork at every lunch. This argument stems from a fundamentally missplaced... how do I say this. Basically the issue is the economic system keeping us financially captive, AI is only showing us a problematic equation in society that was already in place before. The issue is wages disparity and the lack of stakes of most people in the economic system. For AI not to destroy our lives we need it to be used for the economic good of all and not the few. Socializating the means of production is the only way, like Quebec did with its electricity. Quebec bought all the small electric compagnies and ever since the government runs it as a state enterprise, reinvesting the proffits in the collectivity to pay for social services while keeping the cost of electricity the lowest on the continent for about a hundred years. AI wouldn't be an issue if the proffits of it were sent as a UBI to the people so they can afford to live comfortably without excess (to cap damaging environmental practices from overcunsumption). I've been thinking about this problem for the past 15+ years and there is no real way around this. Otherwise, once AI becomes capable enough, this zero-sum game competition AI makers are running will put all the money in the world in something like 5 to 10 individuals while everyone else will quite litterally starve.
I already find AI resources in short form and internet content to be jarring, or bland and can normally figure out if a portion of a script is AI written before the youtuber talking about it says "That portion of the script was written by AI, did you notice" yeah, yeah I did notice it was plain, and only made sense if you didn't listen too closely...
You know they say that Artificial intelligence can solve complex human problems couldn't we use Artificial intelligence to stop wealth inequality, hunger , solve healthcare and create jobs opportunities am I wrong lol .
This is the kind of world you get when you let the profit-motive drive things, and let the profit motive “free market” dictate what happens. The rich want to monopolize production to get to control/keep the profits. It’s not evil, it’s not some grand conspiracy. It’s just what happens when you make everything about business and profits.
I think while it's important that all parties get fairly compensated for the input they have, this idea that AI is both a danger to replace these people, but unable to accurately capture the same quality seems crazy to me. I whole heartily believe that at some point virtually all types of media will be produced almost fully by AI, and that's fine. There are an uncountable amount of industries that have been almost completely replaced by AI, this is just one of the bigger ones that's *creative*. That doesn't discount the fact that we should be living in a society that takes care of it's workers, and properly regulates these things so that it doesn't cause undue economic stress both at a small scale with the actors, writers, directors, etc and at a large scale with the acting and media industry as a whole. That's the real thing that needs to be looked at for. If TVs and movies are only being done by humans because AI was regulated out of the market, that seems like a failure of the market to me, not a success. If AI can do it just as good if not better, those people should pursue different things instead. That's what a market is for, to incentive people to produce value. AI is making us come to grips that at some point they *might* actually produce all the same kinds of value we can, *that's* what really needs to have a long look taken at it. What do we do then?
Keep protest then. We see no diffirent between this protest with those protests of labour workers that happened hundred years ago when automatic machine first be use in production. Evol will keep evol no matter what people want.
How futurists foresaw AI and automation being used:
“We created this technology to take over your repetitive, dead end job, thus freeing you, the mortal human, for more leisure or creative efforts.”
How it’s actually being used:
“We’ve created this machine to churn out auto-generated art, thus giving you, the mortal human, more time to spend grinding it out at your dead-end, repetitive job.”
Exactly
SO well-said, wow
See, this is what people don't understand about automation. The food industry is what the world looks like post automation.
Instead of learning how to make bread, biscuits, and lots of interesting things, everyone just toasts pre-baked loaves.
We won't have the best things. We have the most stale, lifeless, boring things. And everything is the same. Knowledge is lost. Skill is lost.
Maybe the world could look to the example of Japan's adoption of hi tech automation for use in small businesses as an alternative for some jobs lost/degraded in the much more monolithic corporate pipelines elsewhere.
@@EvilWeiRamirez I agree with some of your points, but really, if we lived in a sane society, workers would welcome automation, not fear it. The whole reason why humans create machines in the first place is to do dangerous or repetitive labor, the idea being that the human worker would then enjoy more leisure or can devote their efforts to more creative tasks.
Instead, so far every advance in technology has led to workers producing more and working harder for increasingly lower wages. I'm not advocating that we go all Unabomber, but there is clearly a larger problem when it comes to our society and work and unfortunately, machines can't solve it for us.
Seriously, read Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber. Changed my life and will forever change how you think about work.
The concentration of productive capacity under artificial intelligence increases the bargaining power and political power of capital. Under capitalism there is an inherent bias towards the profitability of capital at the expense of labor, local communities, global communities, and the planet. We must create unions and cooperatives to stop this bias toward the wealthy.
Did you know that according to the only book that truly defines capitalism, An Inquiry Into The Nature And Causes Of The Wealth Of Nations, that the only business model that is inherently capitalist is actually the cooperative business model? See, according to Adam Smith, who came up with the concept of capitalism, in order for an economic system of any size to be considered capitalist, every single person in that system must be able to capitalize on their position in that system. He says that when there’s an owner and a management class (that might also have some level of ownership) and then there’s the whole workforce and they don’t own a piece of the company, that’s anti-capitalist because the workers don’t own a fair piece of the company and therefore cannot capitalize upon their position within that system. Cooperative business models where the people who work at a place own that place, that is capitalism according to the man who invented the term and it’s definition.
What we need to do is take back this definition and shove it in the faces of those who claim to be capitalist but are instead hardline corporate socialists (not the good kind of socialist who wants the same thing every rational thinking person wants, no instead think Mussolini or Hitler, the authoritarian and economically corrupt kind of socialist). When the ruling class takes a word and applies it to something entirely different to the point that most people think capitalism=American economics, we lose the ability to communicate and organize properly. Word’s true definitions are as important as accurately describing the reality. And the reality is, these people call their brand of authoritarianism, economic manipulation, and exploitation of the public “capitalism” because they know that the kind of system laid out in the Wealth of Nations as capitalism would see their empire destroyed and the power back in the hands of the workers. I’m not even a capitalist, because in order to have a society like what’s laid out in the book you need to have a central State and I am personally so tired of Statist systems. I’m not even saying I know the answer cause I don’t, but I do know from reading the book that this system we have isn’t capitalism, and that true capitalism by the book seems like a lot more of a step in the right direction than the total opposite thing we’re doing now that is referred to inaccurately as “capitalism”. In fact I don’t see how you can have true capitalism and corporate structures in the same system, they are anathema, especially the multinational. Like I was saying above, the only business model, aside from a one human shop, that fits the true capitalist system is cooperative business.
@@BigTrees4ever There were many capitalist theorists. According to the metaphysical philosophy of John Locke, wage labor is essentially renting yourself via "self ownership". Employment is literally renting another human being as if they're property. Employment is a rental contract, like if you rented capital (say, a chainsaw from Home Depot), you pay rent for the "time preference" (basically the cost of time) for a piece of property. Capitalism is based on a principle of self ownership, which sounds empowering, until you realize that most people don't own enough capital goods to make enough income other than themselves, and must rent out the authority over themselves as pieces of "human capital". This is a process of dehumanization where human beings are valued for their return on investment as capital goods. This is why, at the very least, capitalism needs unions and safety nets (or abolishment), or else the system won't value people for their human value. Importantly we must also think about our sick, elderly, and disabled people, as they can't provide competitive economic return for the investor class to value. We must figure out a way to change this economic system if we wish to value each other.
"Taking back the word capitalism" isn't going to save us, we need social ownership of the means of production to make economic democracy a Right, just like political democracy is a Right.
E: you really call Hitler a socialist?? 🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼 Next the DPRK with be 'democratic'. Please, take some time to learn some more political philosophy.
bias towards to the wealthy is the whole point of capitalism. it's made to benefit those with captial. it's going to continue destroying every good until it's regulated to hell and back. regulated so hard to eventually it disappears and we all have excess.
In this case with Law & Order, this is what we call "irony"
Sadly the purest form of capitalism is slavery.
I'm sure Ai could do a CEO's job, let's go there & replace them
the main problem with AI writers is that execs have already proven they dont care about writing and are terrible at telling good from bad. so they wont even be able to tell the difference between a crappy AI script and a great handwritten one. so not only will there be less jobs for writers, the writing for every show and movie will get even worse than they already are (which is pretty bad most of the time).
Yep and people will be trained to consilune such things
Actually the numbers show it's the general public that doesn't care about writing (and are terrible at telling good from bad -- okay, that last point being a personal opinion). Content consumption is a passive experience.
Is it any worse than not paying reality tv stars for writing. You know that on "Who's Line Is It Anyway" they were never paid writing royalties because of the improvisational aspect of the show.
@@troubadour723 Because we're already used to consuming poorly written, executive board-throttled content and ads over all else
@@honeyblue2902 To quote a line from The Lion in Winter "There's no use asking if the air's any good if there's nothing else to breathe."
Adam Connover perhaps said it best: if you start the negotiation with a just in case of not being shot and the other side doesn't want to agree, you begin to think they're out to kill you.
"Why do you keep asking me about this gun I'm pointing at you?"
We need laws in order to prevent this.
AI NEEDS TO BE REGULATED!!
Regulations won't help. Capitalism needs abolishment.
@@WanderingExistenceyou can’t abolish a concept that’s not even being practiced. Currency/money is what needs to be abolished.
@@BigTrees4ever 🤣🤣🤣
@@BigTrees4ever 🤦🏼 Money is a key aspect of capitalism.
M->C->M' (Money, Capital, Money at the rate of monied interest)
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Thanks for making me laugh!
What she said about bipolar hit me in the feels. Solidarity ✊
🤔 I wonder if someone could use AI to simulate the decisions of a typical CEO? Could They justify their salaries if a machine could do their job as good or better?
"Human experience is a different thing than ones and zeroes."
So well said. 👍👏
AI will NEVER be able to copy human behavior, because we're all UNIQUE!!
But it will, you have no idea how far technology has come.
You might imagine yourself a steel driven man John Henry, but that AI juggernaut is going to win in the long run.
Pretty soon we're all going to own nothing and I don't think we'll be happy.
We are moving towards a W E F sponsored neo-feudalist dystopia where the wealthy might keep a few hundred million of us for entertainment purposes. Artificial General Intelligence will replace us all.
AI just steals stuff, just like how all the AI generated art is stolen from actual artists who post their work on the web. If AI didn't have any access to that artwork, it would have nothing to produce because it lacks the skills and creativity of people.
@biteofdog
I know it's nice to live in a fantasy world. Nearly 3 years ago your fantasy was shattered with alpha go which teaches itself from nothing.
What the public sees now is where AI was at years ago.
Buckle up!
@@biteofdog Might be comforting to believe that. Time will tell I guess. I'm old enough to remember when most of the clever folk were sure that there never would be a chess program capable of playing at masters level.
AI as we've come to know it isn't actually true AI. It's just a buzzword. That one actress is correct. AI is just "plagiarism software." It can only work with the information you give it. It cannot generate something original on its own.
It's all in the marketing.
I prefer the term “artificial imagination”, but I agree.
we actually have no idea what "intelligence" is and to say that we've artificially created them is the peak of hubris
@@davidtitanium22
Our understanding of intelligence is indeed far too limited and culturally/economically influenced to be remotely objective.
@@EpixAndroid It's a golden age for artifice.
As formulaic and predictable as these shows have gotten, to think that AI can be used to endlessly remix and rehash existing material into new episodes is insanity. The studio execs certainly don't care about quality any more than they do about working folks.
Unfortunately they are validated by global box office and streaming numbers.
@@troubadour723A box office with the biggest flops since the 1960s..?
I have started watching foreign TV shows. You can tell Americans have been skimping on writers for a bit now. And they think all AI will make that better. 🙄
@@nuance9000 Movies with billion dollar hauls are all based on existing brands/franchises. I hope fervently the younger generation will break this cycle of mediocrity. We'll have to wait and see if something truly original is supported by the public to the same degree as movies based on Barbie dolls and 80s video games.
Nah, AI would do a better job at keeping the spirit of the authors they piggy back on than human.
I read a YT comment months ago where someone predicted this... about feeding all of the L&O scripts to AI to write a new episode or season and it would work. It's too tempting for media companies to not try... all of this text is there just sitting ready to be fed into the machine and then edited by a professional writer. That's just the script ....all of this artist likeness stuff is downright evil and should be banned.
And as AI tech continues to evolve it will get better and better at producing formula that is indistinguishable from what comes out of the so-called "writers rooms".
@@troubadour723 NO no it will not. You of all people should know about that, having "Omar Khayyam" as your profile name. If you ask an AI to write some series about him, It would write some Euro-centeric thing. It knows series about Leonardo Da Vinci but not any Muslim scientist. And if you are open minded enough for Oman Khayaam, you think AI could come up with "The Message" in any respectful way? As an AI developer, I can tell you it could not. It could not come up with that movie's technique for not showing the Prophet Sallah Aalih Wasalm or the four caliphs, it could not have found a way to center the story around other people. Same with Miss Marvel. There is no prior data for any show about a Muslim superhero in the west or the creative way they show the partition in a PG13 rating, and doing that in a larger overall series(the MCU) where the very first villain was an Urdu speaking Pakistani American.
I don't even agree with the content of the show they are talking about here. I HATE it, I HATE its far-right director, I hate the propaganda it spreads, I even hate its conservative target audience. As an AI developer myself, I even stand to gain if they replace people with AI. I STILL don't want these people out of a job, I still want the writers room, even for a show I absolutely HATE. I want people to be able to feed themselves, I want writers to have a starting job on shit-shows like this, I want new actors coming in as extras from crap like this.
@@jhonshephard921 I adopted the Omar Khayyam moniker for my YT account when I was involved in a stage production of the Rubaiyat some years ago. I will change it.
Why is it evil exactly?
It is not illegal to write stories that take inspiration from others, if you want to ban that then were gonna end up with 99% of all stories banned. There would only be 1 story for every genre, everything else made in the same genre would be considered plagiarism.
@@jhonshephard921the only way you can achieve that is if you ban ai development, and you know there is no stopping it.
Those that will lose jobs need to be supported, those that remain must learn how to market themselves and their works faster than an ai can learn and generate copies of their work.
My favorite part was when the studio bought people's likeness for all of time throughout the universe. That seems fair, and perfectly non-exploitative, nor in any way does it treat human beings as objects. Not at all.
You are being sarcastic, right?
it sounded like a cartoon villain speech for some reason
Imagine you're a background actor and you agree to be 3D scanned. They can use your face, your image for anything, even the sex orgy scene in "Eyes Wide Shut".
Hollywood has been fake for some time. Now it can legitimately be called Deepfake.
Going to be a lot of idiots volunteering to be stock scans.
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Copaganda is bad enough; but copaganda without even a semblance of humanity is just hellish!
Have you covered the topic of franchises or "partnering" with a corporation and how they are a curse hiding as a blessing?
I know they have brought some people opportunities, but I feel like they are behind why America and Americans are so wasteful and also why all our capital seems to spend no time in our local communities. It would be interesting to know more local business owners' views on the subject and if they think capital can stay local within the franchisee model.
Wow. What a great piece. This moment in the entertainment industry is arguably the most important in its history. This is a great illustration of that.
Pay these members of staff, writers & actors!
The contract excerpt quoted in the video, for those interested:
"I irrevocably grant to the production company all rights of every kind and nature to the results and proceeds of all my services for the work they represented in the voucher, including, without reservation, all of my likenesses, poses, acts, plays, sounds, and appearances, made by me, to be used or not used, in any manner that the production company chooses, throughout the universe, in perpetuity, in all media, whether now known or thereafter devised."
Contracts with broad and vague permissions like this should be made illegal! I've only ever seen them used to screw people over, whether it's actors, other workers, or even social media users.
"I grant the production companies all rights to go f**k themselves." Seriously folks, we gotta stop being whores. It gives the bosses all the leverage.
*I really hope the TV media CEO's just abandon this Ai scripted show idea, and just pay those writers and actors thier fair share.*
If Hollywood wins on this and any worker below a certain floor gets fired to be replaced by AI with no repercussions, it will be a horribly dangerous precedent for any other job. The moment some AI would be implemented at your workplace, business owners would be granted to fire you without any form of protection. "Because Hollywood did and it would be unfair if I can't do the same".
We should all side with the workers on this, regardless of how much you like or hate what they produce.
Technology is coming for every job. It is how we adapt and use it in our day to day matters. Look at live theater and live performances of dance, & music. Still widely valued today. We are likely going to be moving into a world where day to day "filler" for shows gets automated but all "the good stuff" is still done with human talent.
We are in a strange time in human history for sure.
The idea of scanning somebody and being able to use their image in perpetuity is horrible. You, essentially, can never turn down a role, because that's the new reality with these contracts. eg, "You don't wanna portray a certain character due to moral objections?" "Too bad, company owns your face"
I don't hate Artificial intelligence but Ai right now is like a really talented and capable TODDLER
Infinite capacity to create mediocre, heartless, somehow fake shows will take the "thousand channels and nothing to watch" effect and amplify it until it decimates the companies where its used. The very essence of attending an artistic event is to receive from the hard won efforts and subsequent insights, and from the awakened talents, of fellow beings.
Perhaps a bright light could be a replatforming of these at risk artists into economically viable companies outside the monopolies, enabled finally to truly take hold at scale as the ease of running internet media platforms really kicks in and eats these executives and capital holders lunches. There are plenty of examples already.
AI movies made by random people on the internet will soon make AI movies by studios irrelevant
It’s a mix bag with most of them outside the surrealism
Did anybody else catch the part where he said "throughout the universe" holy crap. They wanna make sure they can use his likeness anywhere anytime
What's disturbing and frightening is Michael Chricton predicted this back in 1981 in his movie Looker. It's not a great movie but it was ahead of it's time with 3D computer scanning of live actors, film sets and voices. The evil tech company in this case is Digital Matrix who primarily works with tv commercial models. They convince the models to have plastic surgery for correcting slight flaws so they'll be perfect according to market research generated algorithms, have the models sign lifelong contracts with the promise of being paid in perpetuity then murdering them thus owning their likenesses without having to pay anyone. There are other fictional high tech things like Deep Fakes and light guns that induce temporary amnesia and mimic seizures so they can defame or murder prominent politicians inorder to keep the oligarchs in power. We now have Deep Fakes so what's next?
I never heard of this movie before but I like the premise . Where can I watch it?
Seziure guns
Comes down to - capitalism cannot be without being heavily regulated…
Shorten that to 3 words.
And communism isn't "regulated"? It's completely top down authoritarianism
@@shadyacr comes cannot heavily
I don't understand why people are against the strikes, most people make less than enough to live and the work is long and done out of passion, we need to get rid of making money just to live, then we can finally move past this nonsense.
I’m sure most people if not everyone, would prefer to experience shows written by humans not machines
Law & Order can go away, tbh. It's copaganda, and cops are strikebreakers.
The majority of cop shows are sponsored by actual police departments, who almost always require that policing be portrayed in a positive light. That's why it's so rare to see a TV show highlighting bad police practices or the need for reform.
@@InventorZahran Yup. In particular, Law & Order's producer, Dick Wolf, described himself as "unabashedly pro-law enforcement." John Oliver did a great Last Week Tonight on the franchise.
I get you don’t like the show, neither do I, however, it’s the greater story about how AI is driving out writers and background actors, and what that can mean to other expressions of art, including ones we love and cherish deeply.
@@DrCrabnutsI'm aware of the "greater story." My point stands.
@@JasonSchadewald “It’s over Anakin! I have the high ground!”
The irony of Law and Order workers and actors getting fucked over by the cops/pigs would be hilarious. Wish them luck though.
Such a by-the-numbers show protecting the establishment & the rich holding it up that it could be one of many shows, including all reality TV, to be written entirely by AI and no one would notice
The writers need to win this battle. AI needs to lose this battle everywhere. It doesn't produce quality. It just produces things that look similar to quality.
That's always the absolute worst stuff. Everything feels like a cheap knock off.
The language of that contract waiving the actors rights illustrates how the elite really believe they're going to hang tight in their bunkers for a bit until their spaceships are ready to take them to second-earth where the will live forever...
One aspect not covered here is that A.I. has the capability to generate new content based on existing materials. The user, a real human, can then manually edit this content multiple times to create something entirely novel and unrecognizable, all while avoiding copyright infringement.
The lead writer mentioned that they incorporate real human experiences into their scripts. This raises questions about whether this is exploiting people's life stories for profit. It's essential to recognize that everything we create is a fusion of preexisting elements or ideas.
A.I. essentially repurposes what humans share on the Internet, much like a photographer captures images of existing subjects. It doesn't create from scratch; it reorganizes existing content. Therefore, A.I. itself isn't the adversary; rather, it's the human users who require regulation. Copyright laws already safeguard human likeness and voice, so what major studios are doing is pushing the boundaries of their employees' work. They're testing how far they can go before legal challenges arise.
While you can't take A.I. to court, individuals who misuse the technology are legally accountable. Hence, the focus should be on regulating and monitoring the human users who abuse the technology, rather than targeting the technology itself.
Writers incorporate their own experiences into the scripts. That's how it sounded to me. And I can guarantee that happens.
Though 100% yes, writers also use the experiences of other people. But if you want to call that out, you need to include all the novels that were ever written. Because how do you think authors are able to create realistic characters and dialogue? Just be assured we rarely use you as such. Most of the time it's just the vibes of a certain kind of person or how they talk.
Right Message. Absolutely WRONG SHOW to use as an example. I want writers and performers to have better jobs than producing propaganda for the gang which puts the boot on all workers' necks.
Likely limited to who has interest in this sufficient to sit and make the whole thing for free.
I support the writers and actors.
But, not gonna lie, I want to see an episode of Law & Order involving a thieving robot.
S1M0̸NE was a warning, not a MANUAL! 😤😤
In solidarity with all these writers, actors, and every Worker out there. ❤️
Why did you guys not ask the former show runner of Law and Order SVU questions about how the show portrays police officers in a good light in order to get tax exemptions to film it in New York
Probably because the video was about the Writer's Strike & AI? This isn't a video exclusively about how Law & Order is made.
Well I learned something new. Unfortunately I am not at all surprised to learn of it. All the sneaky shady crap going on, seems to be bubbling to the surface rapidly. I'm glad you shared it, thanks
If people are worried about ROI, AI should only be used to automate the highest paid CEO positions.
It is crappy what is going on with the entertainment industry; however, there are many other jobs in danger of becoming obsolete. Jobs that are not in the spotlight have already or will soon be made obsolete.
That said, this is somewhat of a natural evolution. We've seen this sort of thing before because it happens whenever there is a big jump in technological advances. For example, when radio shows converted to television or silent films became talkies.
I will say that it is good that the entertainment industry is bringing attention to this matter IF it results in getting better guarantees for people in every walk of life...not just the entertainment industry.
I’ve stopped watching TV because it was vapid and completely uninteresting. I do have a subscription to STARZ so I can watch OUTLANDER. That’s it. When that series is over, I’m completely through with the medium.
The idea that theyre not going to lose a ton of money on absurd and unwatchable projects is absolutely delulu but thats what the rich and powerful are best at being
stage acting will be their limitation
Thank you, MPU.
"If there is a remote chance of daylight to take advantage of something that wasnt specifically excluded, they will run 100 miles with it."
As someone who enjoys writing as a form of art and expression, the idea of Hollywood using AI to create a scripts and movies and tv shows, just to keep more money in THEIR pockets, is insulting to the craft as a whole.
It isn’t art if a machine makes it. It will have no soul or meaning behind it. You need the human element to create the art.
I can contribute to the real life story in writing and the acting, whoch is therapeutic. I support the cause.
My Copiganda Noooooo
I will cancel my Netflix if they ask me too.
Law & Order scripts are already so formulaic and predictable AI scripts would blend right in.
#strongerunion are key to a better future.
Awesome video, i just wish you featured a different show, one that was a bit less pro cop propaganda focused.
The fact that it's hard for people in charge (directors, producers, execs, what-have-you) to say no to AI tools and just continue working with humans is ridiculous.
This was simply awesome sauce.
Meanwhile Corridor Crew is laughing about BG losing their jobs
They want ai to make anime, so why did you expect ?
This reminds me of the 2013 movie "The Congress" with Robin Wright playing herself.
So absolutely no self-reflection by this writer guy about why his job is so easy to replicate with AI.
Are Executives afraid that day will be easier to replace than masses of workers? Maybe that's why they are so focused on replacing workers.
Good, I hope AI crushes shows like Law and Order. They alter our view of the justice system. They spread fear and paranoia. They go far beyond simple murder mysteries.
Maybe there will be protections, but who will stop hobbyists from creating movies and shows that compete with traditional studios? This is becoming a reality. ❤
Anybody ever get an icky, sinking feeling watching shows like Law & Order? There's a reason for that.
Might i direct you to the "copaganda" episode of the podcast Citations Needed with Nima Shirazi & Adam Johnson (i hope i got those names right). It's very informative.
They don't just want to take actor/writer's jobs, they want to take all the jobs so they don't have to pay anyone for anything ever again.
Anyone who thinks that artificial intelligence is going to take artist's jobs have never used it and are definitely probably not artists themselves. Artificial intelligence isn't that bad of a tool and it has some utility even in creating art itself but it's just the amount and the expensiveness of what it cost to get anything good out of it is way more than just having an actual artist do something as well most of it's utility would probably be in the line of something like filling in the blanks like look our tools are going to get better or computers in our artificial intelligence are absolutely going to get better but that does not eliminate jobs I mean it does but at the same token you know we weren't hiring people to draw those extra panels anyway The only reason why companies have improved anything is cuz we've made demands and through the free market we do want the better products and that's the only reason why they make things better but they don't do anything more better than they have to and realistically they're not going to hire more people to share the profits around just to give people jobs they don't give a f*** if there's 30 people that can draw who are all starving that could draw the extra frames that an anime needs they don't care they want to keep those billions for themselves even though they'd only have to maybe pay or shell out a couple of millions just so that way these guys can eat while providing customers with a better product at the end of the day it's like they want the blame to go on the tools a bit when the reality is it's the system it's capitalist it's the fact that we don't share wealth at the bottom and that it's really not improving tools that are the problem it's the capitalist it's the capitalism system
Tldr
Thank you
This might be a parallel argument to moving from hand drawn animation to c g I.
I've tested ChatGPT enough to know how repetitive characters can act and how bland scenarios often play out. It SHOULD NOT be the industry standard. Ever.
It's strange really. Actors etc. really can get into trouble for what they must do when the scripts demand of them. Imagine my scanned profile being used to generate a racist prick, I being unaware of it, and then getting sued for being a racist prick. The studios have all the money and not a second to think the basics through? Wow!
If we (as a civilization) allow A.I. to become more part of our lives, it will eventually take over every aspect.
Calling LLM AIs "plagiarism software" is SO apt, and really gets to the heart of how it works and why it's wrong.
😂 comparing generative AI to plagiarism is absolutely laughable. All artists are plagiarists to the knowledge they took from their surroundings. Shut up with the plagiarism crap.
@@FainTMako generative AI works without understanding of principles behind things and without any ability to check that it's correct without specific instructions detailing how and why. It copies what it's seen, and puts those parts together in the way that is asked. People can, such as the writer spoke about in the video, understand the wider sociological issues or physical/practical limitations, and where and why the AI is incorrect. Those are all issues that plagiarism has in academia; without proper understanding of the topic, you just end up copying the wrong things. If you understand how generative AI works, and how plagiarism works and its problems, then it's obvious.
Humans have the same problems. People speak without truly understand the principles behind things yet we reason about them and abstract away what we dont understand.
Its obvious that this is in no way plagiarism.
All of your points really have very little to do with AI if you spend any amount of time actually thinking about what you just wrote..@@geoffreymartin6363
shows like Law & Order also normalized police brutality and lack of police accountability.
Fighting Ai to stick to what was is akin to trying to save horseshoe makers in the nineteen twenties.
you must be very smart
On the one hand, screw law and order specifically. On the other hand, as things are now, good luck actually rendering so many background characters every single week, even with their likenesses. That said, they should be compensated for life, as long as we continue using money. Not to say that a likeness should be treated like property in the sense that a copyright is private property, but in the personal sense: a likeness is personal data, and the individual should have a right to control the use of personal data during their life.
Ideas - academia. How it justifies underpaying it’s employees.
One question 🙋🏽♀️ I am just starting to
Watch season 24 and I am pretty sure there is An IA character, is that right? It is a lady detective
There is absolutely no possible way to avoid the creation of profit generating efficencies. There is no universe where a union contract can prevent AI from becoming a tool if AI can be a tool. (If it can happen. It will happen)
Therefore your only course of action is to handle the consequences of its rise.
I suggest ALL unions strike for the same goal: Enshrine co-determination (hybrid worker elected and share holder elected) boards into constitutional all. Germany (among others) was able to establish permanent labor invement/capital investment peace inside their corporate institutions because EVERY decision was a JOINT decision.
Any goal short of this is asking to have the same fight later down the line. You cant break the loop unless you take away the need for the loop.
When everyone is jobless they will revolt against the artificial and demand a return to the organic. We would all be doing this now if not for the insufferable pretentiousness of artists and the smooth maneuvering of the artifice merchants. Everything that is real and unmediated is expensive and difficult. The mediated caters to the masses with all of the bumps sanded off.
I wouldn't want an AI speaking for my face. They could make it seem like i said anything i didn't say
Our entire human existence has been in make our life easier so we don't have to work so hard, AI come from that. Also, AI uses our inputas well so it's not all AI. We can't create forever, take advantage of AI. So much more to learn
law and order should be canceled but you could talk about the late night talk shows that are still off the air because of the writer strike!
This is why we need to fight and overthrow capitalism.
Honestly, i would hate that because it would take away the personal experiences of people and just have the ai regurgitating stuff.
This is something that is actually disgusting. It spits in the face of what art stands for and it’s absolutely unacceptable that companies who are ALREADY MAKING RECORD PROFITS are (currently) legally allowed to do this. If we have overwhelming support for ending this abusive anti-human tumor of a technology then we should let them know out opinion. LOUDLY. That Secret Invasion show that used AI to “make” its intro? Cancel your Disney+ Subscription and say it was because of that. Contact your representative and say how absolutely putrid this is and that anyone who votes on protecting it won’t get your support. Donate to support the WGA strike going on right now, they’re being bled dry and forced into homelessness by the pigs that are trying to wait them out.
And if they don’t listen, there’ll be hell to pay. Anyone can change the world with enough bravery. Be that person.
Pay the people.
Or… the people will make you pay.
Fighting to protect jobs against AI is basically fighting to the death for scraps against the terminator with a plastic fork at every lunch.
This argument stems from a fundamentally missplaced... how do I say this. Basically the issue is the economic system keeping us financially captive, AI is only showing us a problematic equation in society that was already in place before. The issue is wages disparity and the lack of stakes of most people in the economic system. For AI not to destroy our lives we need it to be used for the economic good of all and not the few. Socializating the means of production is the only way, like Quebec did with its electricity. Quebec bought all the small electric compagnies and ever since the government runs it as a state enterprise, reinvesting the proffits in the collectivity to pay for social services while keeping the cost of electricity the lowest on the continent for about a hundred years. AI wouldn't be an issue if the proffits of it were sent as a UBI to the people so they can afford to live comfortably without excess (to cap damaging environmental practices from overcunsumption). I've been thinking about this problem for the past 15+ years and there is no real way around this. Otherwise, once AI becomes capable enough, this zero-sum game competition AI makers are running will put all the money in the world in something like 5 to 10 individuals while everyone else will quite litterally starve.
I already find AI resources in short form and internet content to be jarring, or bland and can normally figure out if a portion of a script is AI written before the youtuber talking about it says "That portion of the script was written by AI, did you notice" yeah, yeah I did notice it was plain, and only made sense if you didn't listen too closely...
No AI under capitalism! Period.
You know they say that Artificial intelligence can solve complex human problems couldn't we use Artificial intelligence to stop wealth inequality, hunger , solve healthcare and create jobs opportunities am I wrong lol .
Why are we focusing so much on having ai taking over art instead of taking over the menial jobs we dont want to do.
This is the kind of world you get when you let the profit-motive drive things, and let the profit motive “free market” dictate what happens.
The rich want to monopolize production to get to control/keep the profits. It’s not evil, it’s not some grand conspiracy.
It’s just what happens when you make everything about business and profits.
Yep
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It's here it's too late.
I think while it's important that all parties get fairly compensated for the input they have, this idea that AI is both a danger to replace these people, but unable to accurately capture the same quality seems crazy to me. I whole heartily believe that at some point virtually all types of media will be produced almost fully by AI, and that's fine. There are an uncountable amount of industries that have been almost completely replaced by AI, this is just one of the bigger ones that's *creative*.
That doesn't discount the fact that we should be living in a society that takes care of it's workers, and properly regulates these things so that it doesn't cause undue economic stress both at a small scale with the actors, writers, directors, etc and at a large scale with the acting and media industry as a whole. That's the real thing that needs to be looked at for.
If TVs and movies are only being done by humans because AI was regulated out of the market, that seems like a failure of the market to me, not a success. If AI can do it just as good if not better, those people should pursue different things instead. That's what a market is for, to incentive people to produce value. AI is making us come to grips that at some point they *might* actually produce all the same kinds of value we can, *that's* what really needs to have a long look taken at it. What do we do then?
I wish the show would end
Crimes against humanity
Jokes on you, my favorite TV show was cancelled.
(come on AS bring back venture bros)
Pitch forks and torches people time to bust doors down!
Keep protest then. We see no diffirent between this protest with those protests of labour workers that happened hundred years ago when automatic machine first be use in production. Evol will keep evol no matter what people want.