Why Can't Third Party Candidates Win? | NBC News Signal
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- Опубліковано 15 лис 2018
- Six in ten Americans say they’d like to see a viable third party candidate emerge. So why can't those candidates ever seem to break through the noise? NBC News Signal’s Simone Boyce hit the trail to find out why.
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Why Can't Third Party Candidates Win? | NBC News Signal
This video seemed to assume people who vote third party align with either of the main parties. That's not necessarily true. Not all third party votes are "protest votes".
If I didn't vote 3rd party I just wouldn't vote.
@@DefSquadFan The same here. I won't support what I don't believe in.
@@NomadJournalistNews I feel the same way. When one side's promise is that the other is bad and the other says the same thing and no one is offering anything concrete or good, there has to be a third option. Also, in a country full of billions with multiple higher education institutions and multiple branches of military, how is it that only 2 people can run for presidential parties at any given time?
People say that voting third party is wasted when actually not voting is a wasted vote.
One could say that all votes that didn't lead to a win was a wasted vote so everyone who voted Hilary in 2016 wasted their vote.
It's called agenda setting, and this video by NBC is example A. When the press chooses to continuously tell people that third parties can't win rather than give them fair coverage, the audience will regurgitate it. Big parties can pay for ads, and the reason Ross Perot did so well in '92 was because he could pay for them too, even though he was an independent. It's the ultimate irony; A free press is considered the bedrock of democracy, but when it only follows the money it unapologetically perpetuates plutocracy.
Well to be fair, most 3rd candidates are discredited because they take away the votes of actual candidates. The reason they can't succeed is that two major candidates are much more recognizable than a bunch of candidates. The small-time candidates steal the votes of the bigger candidate who might lose to the opposition because of that. So they are spoiler candidates in that they spoil your major party candidates' chances of winning by sapping votes that would've gone to them but instead went to a third candidate. While it might be sad, and unfortunate, it's the system that we have.
Well said.
I mean i could agree on some things but many of ur claims need some proper concrete evidence
For instance
Press taking money to suppress third parties.
Being a former third party pro
I used to believe that but with many interviews the mainstream media has tsken of the third party candidates
I do think they were given a podium
Information can rasily spread its social media era of free floating info
It all boils down to
Third parties just inherently have less within this system
I respect the third party voters. I would say majority of folks are tired of the having two of the same choices
That or the two not meeting the middle ground regardless of who's at fault.
Ok, but what about when people are tired of having 3 of the same choices? Are they going to want a 4th party?
I like him, he's doing it for the love of his state not for money.
For real
Because of the media.
Exactly, trying to get either side to not be bias and paid for....good luck ;)
+Sanon ymous Because of the mental inferiority of the voters. Because there is no excuse for shitheads wasting their vote on republicans & demoturds.
We have to get to the point where we stop blaming the media. We have the power to be informed to make choices for the change we want.
@@gautrytube Exactly!! But too many are brainwashed and pressured into voting only for the Donkey or Elephant every time.
Even though 3rd parties offer things the main 2 do not.
I preffer the Constitution Party myself because they are the most conservative party that also is the most pro life which is something I can not back away from.
Because people in this country either live in the bubble on the left or the bubble on the right, especially the media and celebrities with all the influence.
There exist infinitely many bubbles they live in. There exists ZERO definition of "left" vs "right".
But, other than this numerical error, you are 1000% correct.
It’s so true and disappointing
they’re not old and rich so no ones heard of them
because of you the media
3rd parties need stronger advertising
They try to but boat Republican and Democratic parties have very large entertainment and media platforms that make it pretty much impossible for them to get any because after the whole Ross Perot situation they will make sure that will never happen again and that is so in American George Washington that never wanted This. he wanted independent people to run this country not parties and governments and monopolies and they know this. but just don't care
I'm sure that if people looked at election law in their home states they might find that buying lawn signs "YEARS" before you attempt to get the "ballot signatures" necessary to run for a particular office might not be illegal. But in this guys case "never having run for or being elected to a lower office" probably didn't help his cause. You could say the same thing anbout Cynthia Nixon as well.
SHE had name recognition from TV shows and movies over the previous 20 years, but she had never run for or been elected to a lower office anywhere in the state. Previos experience at lower levels of publicly elected office is what I look for most. I don't vote for ANYBODY that had never been elected to a lower office previously.
And so do 4th parties, and 5th parties, and 6th, 7th, 8th and so on.
I honestly can't wait for the day when there are so many candidates and the new complaint becomes "Voting is so complicated because there are so many candidates to choose from. Why cant we just make it simple and narrow it down to 2 candidates?"
If you take 5% from either one, it's a win to help bring the top 2 closer to the 3rd party. That way, if one of the 3rd parties makes one lose or win, it's moves the candidate closer to the party they wanted to win. *It's small win, but at least it makes the top two, listen to the 3rd party. 5%.*
Jesse Ventura ran as an independent and became a governor so need lots of money or name recognition.
At 3:57 notice NBC cuts her off 2 times, before she finishes with her sentence. It's hard to see.
*The telltale sign isn't just the jump cut, but to hide it with the camera switch of the recording.*
Spongebob for President!
Sandy for Vice President.
Mr. Krabs for Secretary of the Treasury.
Plankton for head of the EPA.
Patrick for Head of the Department of Education.
Squidward for Senate leader. He will serenade everyone with his clarinet skills.
It’s time to get third party candidates on the map. The R’s and D’s just don’t do it for me.
What about when the 3rd party also doesn't do it for you? Will you then want a 4th party? 5th? 6th? 7th?
If I lived in New York I would vote for him.
Left and right are economics not social issues
That unnecessary music as if he can’t be taken seriously is ridiculous
because the media doesn't cover them
in this age we really should have more than 2 options, with the amount of coverage politics gets two candidates will shine to the top anyways. i seriously doubt a tragic loss would occur when we can gauge support easier day to day now
Because it’s set up to be a two party system this video seems biased to the two parties
I mean, how many parties do you want? 100?
@@baltimoreravens4eva5603?
@@tkoala32 Ok, but what happens when you don't like the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd party candidate? Then you'll say "I hate that we only have 3 parties. Why can't we have a 4th party". Then we'll want a 4th party, 5th party, 6th party, and so on.
@@baltimoreravens4eva560 the third party is all encompassing so anyone outside of Democrat or Republican is under the Independent party which by the way already exists and is what is happening right now. Idk why you’re saying 100 thats like saying oh my family needs 3 cars to ease up our schedule and you say “When will the car buying stop at 100?”
@@tkoala32 The 3rd party is not all encompassing, because there are plenty of people who don't vote or vote write in. Knowing how little a chance the 3rd party has, 3rd party voters are just wasting their vote and letting trump ruin our country. I'm not the biggest fan of biden, but knowing the threat that lies on the opposing side, now is not the time to be divided.
Constitution Party all day baby!!
The party of solutions.
Ayee they were in my hometown diner
Sharpe is such a wonderful candidate New York doesn’t deserve him
Please go back and run this story again in today’s political arena. Larry Sharpe was the only third party who met the last minute demands that only apply to third parties. Today he lost the last chance for a judge to follow the constitution of NY
It’s because of media, ohhh like you guys
Vice?
Vote third party! End this dual party tyranny!
Soon you'll say "Vote 4th party. End this triparty tyranny".
How many parties do you want?
1:12
People vote for the less of two evils
Exactly. There is no such thing as the perfect candidate. Because what are people going to do when they're not satisfied with the 3rd party candidate? Complain about having to vote for the lesser of 3 evils? How many parties do people want?
MONEY
Kennedy and Shanahan 2024
He doesn't like the nba?
This relevant again. This may be your last change to save New York. Help Larry Sharpe get elected.
larry wont get the vote
Did yall know that green party was the PERFECT presedent for us because he believe in climate change, equality, human rights, and many other more. Which is sad because the green party arent really recognise.
The democrats also want those things, but you were too busy crying about another candidate, that you ignored the democrats and wasted your vote, allowing the republicans to win and get rid of all those things.
Vote Libertarian!!!
Vote Libertarian, Green and Constitution Parties
@@madden8021 If they even show up on your ballot...
@@DefSquadFanWhy not vote 4th party, or 5th party, or 6th party?
Seriously. When people are unsatisfied with the 3rd party candidate, what will they do? Waste more years of voting wishing for more parties?
My experience with third party system
Voted for a third party candidate like millions of others in 2016
And well it only helped a dufos becoming a president
So
Third parties can be around till eternity
The gross root system of the American politcs was built by the main two
And there is no going around it
It only helps bigger of two evils as u might wanna put it that way
2 party system is also less complicated.
Because if we had a 3rd party, and people were also dissatisfied with the 3rd party candidate, they would want a 4th party. Then a 5th, and 6th, and so on, to the point that they would complain that voting is too hard because there are too many different candidates to choose from.
How can you win in politics if you don't have millions of dollars?
Elections should be funded by the government.
Otherwise you have ultra rich people running, popularity contests, and barriers to access.
Who cares. No participation trophy. You either win or lose.
Proud libertarian
@Lil Blaisy must be big government lover and part of the failed duopoly
@@tattoomaniacsalina Your assuming a bad doctor or a lousy tattoo artist will stay in business once word of their poor service is out.
As for corporations being evil, the only reason why corporations are evil is because of government subsidies and bailouts.
If they know that the government will give them taxpayer money to bail them out because they are "too big to fail," then there is no reason for them to be responsible in running their business. CEOs and board members will continue giving themselves salaries that are 1,000 times their average employees with million dollar bonuses and golden parachutes should the company get in financial straits.
Food stamps and Medicare benefit the Walton family (owners of Walmart) more than any other family in the world.
They don't pay their employees a livable wage. As a result, many of their employees turn to government assistance to sustain their needs.
Where do these employees spend these food stamps and fill their taxpayer funded medications?
At WALMART!
In essence, Walmart is getting rewarded by taxpayer money for paying their employees a low wage or not giving them enough hours for benefits.
Cut all that funding and soon their employees and other people that used these taxpayer funded programs won't be purchasing as much from their store.
This doesn't just apply to Walmart, but EVERY company.
When money revenue goes down, companies will realize that they need to cut back on CEO salaries and give more to employees.
A CEO making $40 million a year buys a few pillows every year. 2.4 million well-paid employees will buy at least 2.4 million pillows a year.
Suddenly, it makes sense to the bigwigs that in order to increase sales, they need to pay their employees a decent wage.
This will vary from different places in the country. A universal minimum or livable wage is vastly different across the country.
The cost of living in Chicago and New York City is astronomically higher than the cost of living in Donna, or Harlingen.
All a federal mandated wage does is eliminate small businesses and THAT is how you will allow Walmart and Amazon to have a complete monopoly.
As for having non FDA approved drugs in your food, simply choose not to buy that and buy food you trust. No one is forcing you to buy products with MSG, Gluten, or GMO products.
But if someone else trusts it and wants to consume that, let them.
Who are you to force your own fears and anxieties on the rest of the world.
@@isaacbarrientos1797 First thing we need to do is reduce inflation back down to reality.
Then the so called livable wage wont be an issue anymore.
Theres just one problem though.
That task requires the careful removal of certain people living in the shadows whos job is to keep stoking the inflation fire that was built decades ago.
Most Latinos are libertarians, the democrats left us behind a long time ago and the republicans don’t even bother .
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I would say it is due to the fact many third party candidates don't act serious.
Yeah, some. But there’s also third party candidates that are more qualified for political office positions than major party candidates.
Yea bc Trump, Biden and Kamala are super serious.