Autism Debate with Jenny McCarthy on 'The Doctors' (Part 2)
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Jenny McCarthy, Dr. Jerry Kartzinel and J.B. Handley, co-founder of Generation Rescue, join The Doctors to discuss the causes of autism. Are vaccines to blame? Watch the second part of the heated debate.
The Dr had a full blown tantrum!!
What a child
He called him out and he cried “attack” perfect example of the boy who cried wolf!
You should actually go interview Imperial College of London, WHO, Johns Hopkins's doctors and medical professionals and other leading medical people, in order to asses and see the "evidence" there is for autism and vaccines. You want the truth right. Do it. Please.
@@Bellucci-zy6slall I heard from you was Rockefeller and Gate’s founded establishments
Excellent deflection on his part. The guy in the audience called him out, and he couldn't handle it.
@@RS54321 if he was lying that is. The simple truth is there is no link between any vaccine and autism. If you still believe there is, then you may as well believe the earth is flat
Jesus the guy in blue sounds like he’s gonna burst into tears any second.
😂😂😂😂😂 100%
The doctor with his blue scrubs comes off as an uninformed juvenile.
That man has an MD? Wow
@@sbaby-np5hy : Come to think of it, I don’t know if he is a MD Doctor. I don’t know his credentials.
@@chantaln6843 He is Dr. Travis and he went through medical school.
Does the guy in blue "just play a doctor on tv" ? OMG
No, he went to medical school and did studies and work. That is how he either got a Ph.d or Master's Degree. Would you trust him or someone here, random, in the comments section if your loved one, suddenly fell ill with pain in his abdomen?
@@Bellucci-zy6sl I would not trust this dickhead to hold my shopping list.
Agreed!!
@@Bellucci-zy6sl sis, you don’t get a PhD or masters by going to medical school, you get an MD 🤦🏻♀️…and NO I would never trust my child with the doctor in the blue. He sounds uneducated, like an idiot, and a tantrum cry baby. Good Lord.
@@Bellucci-zy6sl I'd probably trust someone random here over a cry baby "doctor" that throws a temper tantrum when someone is debating them
This show is one big Joke. I love how the host of the show goes into a hissy fit the minute someone challenges him. This show is nothing but, one long advertisement for Big Pharma!
So true.
J.b handley is a book author,why would anyone listen to him?
That was very well said!,
Don't listen to JB Handley, who emailed an unprofessional message to my workplace for calling him out on his BS. Vaccines do not cause autism, and they are safe and effective.
9 years later...
Did he just say 99% of pediatricians don't know... then why tell parents to give vaccines if they don't know.
Anyone with symptoms should look into heavy metals being an underlying issue, as autism and a lot of other chronic health issues is often caused by mercury toxicity. And therefor you can only manage symptoms until you get rid of the mercury. I would really recommend anyone struggling look into the Andrew Cutler Protocol. This is the ONLY safe protocol to this date, eating things like chlorella and cilantro has made people very very sick. Please read the child recovering stories by googling «cutler success stories child» and «cutler success stories adult» . But the best place to learn and get support is trough the Facebook group «Andy Cutler Chelation: Safe Mercury and Heavy Metal Detox». But whatever you do, never take/eat cilantro, chlorella, MSM, glutathione, and ALA/DMPS/DMSA that is not according to the Andrew Cutler Protocol, you can read some peoples horror stories by googling «Andy Cutler what not to do». Wish you all the best!
@@siriolsen7805 yes do this. Get your info on random google articles brought up by a specific combination of keywords that address some articles written by imbeciles or take a look at a facebook page. Morons.
@@siriolsen7805 and btw the dosage is what makes a substance toxic. If drank in high abundance even water (and everything for that matter) is toxic did you know that?
@@eliodecolli Andrew Cutler was a Phd chemist educated from Princeton and spent his life researching the subject matter, and he could, because he was able to read and understand complicated medical research papers, which you and I can not. Nobody else has done this, nobody with his training has studied heavy metal poisoning like he did. There is no disagreement that mercury is the second most toxic element on earth (after Plutonium). We all know that it is in our environment from some vaccines, amalgam fillings, in fish (especially large ones), in CFL light bulbs, power plants etc. And we know that it can easily enter out body and that it stores in fat tissue like out brain and organs where it causes a lot of harm. Nobody can argue that it is toxic and that it can enter the human body and cause harm, the only disagreement is its prevalens and what specific symptoms it can cause, which dosen't make any sense when we know how many sources we can get if from. And we also have to take into consideration that a persons natural detox system can vary because of genetics, other illnesses, medication, stress etc. There are many wise people trying to educate people about this, Cutler was just one of them, Robert Kennedy jr is another one, but for some reason they are being ridiculed by some and shut down by comments like the one you have made. It is not dangerous to listen, nothing is going to harm you if you open your mind to what could be (and is) the truth. I would recommend you read the book "amalgam illness diagnosis and treatment", I think you will find it very interesting, I sure did. But personally I could never ignore all the parents who tell the story about how they saw a clear sift in their cild right after they received a vaccine, or the the people who got terribly sick after they drill out an amalgam filling unsafely, bloke a CFL lightbulb etc, (and I feel for the poor people who just get progressively worse but never make the connection). And they get better when they do SAFE chelation (according to the ACC protocol). You can read some of the stories by googling "any cutler success stories" and you can be apart of the facebook groups and actually talk to the people chelating and getting better. I don't understand how that can be ignored. But I can't stress enough how important it is to do it the SAFE way, with true chelators that we know the half-life to, and in low doses that has two thiol groups per molecule. Thing that are very dangerous and will make you sicker are cilantro, chlorella, MSM, glutathione (and never take silver), because they don't have the ability to form a strong bond with the mercury and end up moving it around your body without excreting it, possibly to a more sensitive place like your brain. I also recommend reading an article by Rebecca Rust Lee that comes up if you google "rebecca rust lee weston price any cutler". I hope you can open your mind to it being more to this than you wish there was, and that new information is empowering instead of harmful.
Because they get paid to. Look at who funds medical schools and doctors. Same goes for cancer drugs. 60% of your revenue is based on prescribing chemo...guess what you as a physician are going to do?
The doctor just keeps crying and saying “let’s have an open discussion” so they don’t have any time left to have that discussion
Repeating himself.
Those two doctors are on the take, no question. The gentlemen in the audience supplied facts and studies proving his statements and the doctor basically said 'You're a big meanie and I won't listen to you' in so many words.
Did he provide evidence that vaccines cause Autism? Ummmm, no he didn't, lots of hot air is all I heard.
@@TheAstraeuss his point is that there might be a correlation and when the first doctor in part 1 said we study vaccines, etc when he came back at them with “ only 2 have studied and 1 ingredient” he shows how deceptive they are.
@@TheAstraeuss you keep getting your jabs like a good boy
@@whoareyapauldunn I'm smarter than you, much smarter.
@@TheAstraeuss 😂 Sorry to break it down for ya - its actually called illusions of grandeur... stick to the shallow end of the pool mate 😂
Can someone tell who he is, the guy in the audience. He seems very well educated and a critical thinker.
JB Handley, He has two great books about autism, he’s a father to an adult son who was vaccine injured and he’s the main caretaker. Look into him.
“We don’t know” exactly we (doctors, the public,) don’t know. So don’t force us to vaccinate our kids! California passed a new law without voters approval that require all students be vaccinated to attend schools. That’s wrong, if we don’t know it shouldn’t be the law!
Sometimes I agree with her, sometimes I disagree with her but no one can deny how much she loves her child and the lengths she is willing to go to help her child. I work in special education and I feel this is very true for parents who have kids with special needs
The doctor's clinic who did not give vaccine until age 3 had zero Autistic kids. The blood brain barrier if not closed until after age 2 and babies get Hept B shot and Vit K shot on day one of birth. The Hept B shot has caused MS symptoms in adults.
Which doctor's clinic?
doc in blue sounds so immature -- when cornered he tries to respond w/ a phoney 'outrage',,,,doc,,,u been busted
he is going to cry and pee his pants. At least that is what I was waiting to see.
@@catcar1937 It's pretty ridiculous that he has to waste his platform debating with a scientifically-illiterate "actress." I would be upset as well.
@@chrisa6333 if he wasn't such a corporate shill, he wouldn't have to debate her.
@@catcar1937 5 stars for that one :D
An emotional distraught response is not = scientific fact that, there is evidence for McCarthy's claims. That is irrational logic
Tell both sides! Don’t cut off a Doctor that disagrees with another Doctor.
The best part of listening to Alex Jones and not the Drs is you don’t get myocarditis.
🤣 _"Momma says stupid is as stupid does"_ - Forrest Gump.
Moral of the story: AJ is a liar and a crook. He admitted as much in court when he was forced to concede under oath the nonsense he spews _"is entertainment."_ As to myocarditis I suggest you learn some science. Many viral illnesses can cause myocarditis as inflammation of cardiac tissue only means the organism in question can access those cells.
Ergo it becomes an issue of severity and duration. Myocarditis following *WEAK* vaccines is typically mild and of short duration being self-resolving. Meanwhile those infected with actual Covid can also experience it save for = it is usually more serious. Enjoy your conmen and grifters. We'll stay with science. 🥱
When "Doctor" have a argument with Doctor
THEY KNOW WHATS IN vaccines
Epic
@@grahamsmiffy8737 yep sitting there trying to change the fact that vaccines cause autism by talking about having his feeling hurt smh
They guy in blue crying 😢 doesn’t want people knowing the truth and that’s why he cried… I’m so glad there guests told the truth…
@The Doctors: I'm not a parent but I'm only curious, why is it that people freak out over a broken fluorescent outside light bulb that contain mercury but most is ok with medical professionals putting it into their/or their childs bloodstream? via vaccines.
Way to be professional Dr. Stork... my friend’s baby was DEAD within 12 hours after her first set of shots! Died in her mother’s arms
@JodyC: 😢 I'm so sorry; for your friend.
So sorry 😢
Sorry
My son was absolutely fine, he was saying words making eye contact, wasn't flapping his hands until he had the MMR. 24 hours later he wasnt speaking, wasnt making eye contact and was flapping his hands, we took him to the docs 3 weeks later and from there his diagnoses of Autism was given about a year later. Im not saying the MMr causes Autism but I think in some kids it can cause a reaction. Im no doctor but from seeing my son at first hand I definitely think this should be looked at again.
Vaccines don't "cause" autism. Vaccine causes VACCINE INJURY. the behaviors are just an outward manifestation of the inner damage that vaccines do. they damage the brain. They cause ischemic strokes in infants and toddlers. they injure the immune system. Ingredients damage the lining of the intestines and they also affect the adrenal glands adversely. Vaccines, their toxins and their synergy disrupt the biochemical processes in the body.
What chemical is causing the autism?
What chemicals do you think in the vaccine caused his autism ?
SAME thing happened to my son (after the Vax fever and bad swelling). He's 6 in pullups but advanced reader etc..he notices my every facial expression and body language yet is different and can be explosive. It was so sad when he "forgot" all the words he learned as a toddler. It was night and day. The vax.
@@sashasorensen5945 Interesting
Doctors... i just lost all respect for you!
polio was going down when the vaccine came out, when the vaccine was administered, polio went up. How do you explain that? Polio can be eliminated through proper sanitation, water quality etc.
Thank you.
As a matter of fact, yes I have and actually I learn more through independent research than I ever did in school. School only scratches the surface and offers very little deep information about autism and the environmental factors associated with it.
Can you please share
I was diagnosed as being autistic in 1968 when we didn't have as many vaccines. My mom lived in an asbestos house with lead paint. We lived in the inner city river town where factories and trains carrying god knows what were within yards of houses and kids playing. There is no doubt things effect different people differently. While I do think vaccines could contribute by putting some vulnerable systems over the edge. I don't think they are the primary cause. And I do agree that we are over vaccinated.
cont....
I also see a chiropractor regularly. My current neuro and GP have been impressed with my physic as well. They told me to keep doing what I'm doing, (vitamins/diet) because, though I am NOT on MS drugs, it all seems to be working.
Sadly, with increasing neuropathic pain, that began not long after the tetanus shot, I have had to slowly ramp up the Gabapentin and it's caused me to lose the balance necessary to do yoga,
My hands are numb, but still work and my arms are very strong.
My son had a terrible reaction to his first vaccination, became extremely unresponsive and noticeably different in the days and months to follow. He was recently diagnosed with Autism. 100% no doubt in my mind that his vaccination caused it.
I hope this is a joke. I’m tired of seeing people say these things. If you are making fun of the people who do say that, that is fine.
@@JuliansStuffRoblox She's a parent sharing her painful story and you have the nerve to comment that?
@@shimmer4771 she has no respect for anyone; imagine being that twisted to “hope a person is making fun of a parent with a vaccine injured child.” I’m a mother of two sons who were vaccine injured, one was severely effected. I hope she never has to experience that, may God have mercy on her soul.
Same here. My son had a bad fever and it was like he forgot how to talk...he eventually started speaking again but it was like so obvious. He said so many words, next day after Vax those words disappeared. He is very intelligent, age 6 now at a 3rd grade level...yet doesn't understand sarcasm and has social difficulties. He also get offended very easily and does repetitive things related to ocd. I know in my soul that it was the shots he got as a toddler. He was a different kid the very next day after the bad fever and swollen injection site...oh he's also still in pullups
My son too.. regressive autism. It’s disgusting what they are doing to our children.
The guy in the blue keep pushing it into abstraction..
+jack smith He' is crying because he got called out and found to be wanting, i would not listen to this guy about anything he's a spoilt child.
+jim bod He is defensive because he cannot handle the possibility that his paradigm is all wrong, so he is compelled to blame it on something else. EVERYTHING causes autism except what REALLY causes autism.
Your trying to reinterpret/relabel what I said...what I said is based on some universal laws of debating. You need to provide evidence.No say it remains unknown.So you as the person that says that... you look like your contributing..but really your just occupying the position of.."Unknown".You not providing evidence. Trust me or don`t...if you have a child that one day is normal and then the next day a shit smearing lunatic than the eviadance is right in front of you. However it only happens in some case`s.
I'm afraid you are out of date the same doctor who was ridiculed and struck off by the British medical assoc, has proven to be right do a bit of research.
Look..I don`t take any of these lightly...thing is I have sat down with the women who loose their children to vaccines .By the same token you can find people like Sir Ken Robinson who suffered Polio.I got 4 Kids.None vaccinated.I read books books first.Made a decision.I know the risks.I also know some people die from pea nuts.I eat that stuff on toast.To say there is no relationship in injecting newborns with an illness and that child`s immune system flipping out is stupidity on a level that is kind of epic.
what they call increase in autism is in fact now knowledge and diagnosis of autism . 100 years ago they just called them crazy and that was it , numbers are the same
And we all technically have it
We have a mentally disabled 20 year old, brain damage from forceps. They label him Autistic. When I tell them, they say keep the title.. He gets better services.
Yeah.....and you lived here 100 years ago to know that? Look in part 1, the number of autism cases in America is significantly larger than in other countries.
Robert Moshi you are absolutely right.
I am a nanny in the bay area, 50% of the jobs posted have kids on the spectrum. That cant be right, that seems ridiculously high.
"I apologize if I crossed the line with you personally"
The Dr: 👁👃🏼👁
Thanks you are right be your own advocate.
Jenny McCarthy is the Dave Chappelle of beautiful woman, the pharmaceutical syndicate may try to send her acting career to Africa.
Keep punchin' Jenny.
All my kids were vaccinated and they're not autistic. :/
+Sandra Vazquez luckily for you your children may be resilient to any effects, there are just to many parents having this experience ,,,, I think they should be listened to respectfully
+Sandra Vazquez the reason for this, is because vaccines do not causes autism.
+Sandra Vazquez You think if it doesn't happen to your child; therefore, that can't be the cause. This is seriously flawed reasoning. Can a PEANUT hurt SOME children? Can a PEANUT kill some children? What you said is like saying, "I will feed this peanut to this child who is allergic because my child can eat peanuts; therefore, peanuts must be safe for ALL children. GEEZ.... if that is the prevailing world logic, then we are ALL in trouble.
shygirl75158 You make no sense. So because vaccination doesn't work for one child means we shouldn't do it for all children even if it means saving their lives from a serious disease? So because one child is allergic to peanuts means we shouldn't feed it to any other?
Jenvey Nissen Agree.
where is the rest of the show?
This is the best news I've heard all day.
Before i started showing interest in the medical community as a career i was fearful of vaccines. My dr was very understanding and didnt push the issue at all. Instead he said “if it would make you more comfortable we can spread these vaccines out more we do not need to do so many at once”. He also mentioned flu shot should be optional to me as my son has a healthy immune system, he also said chicken pox vaccine even he deams optional. that put ease in my heart he also kindly mentioned “i highly recommend you follow through with vaccines if your child:
1. Goes to a day care center (he doesnt), your child may get an infection or disease from another child who is not vaccinated.
2. If he is around any immuno compromised family member.
3. Around a person who is 65 years or older
After considering this i thought of my granmother. She had cancer at the time and was going through chemo. She was immuno compromised and also over the age of 65 so we decided vaccines would be best. We spread them out and i didnt have him visit with her until he was up too date on all his vaccines. It hits so much closer to home when doctors dont push, offer alternatives that still allow for a vaccine, but put a patient at ease. Also how he didnt approach it in a statistical matter but related it to real life issues like having an immuno compromised family member or an elderly person. My mind immediately went to my grandma who i am so close with and who raised me.
I hope to bring this type of ease to my patients when i become a dr. First year med student! Wish me luck!
Briahna Ray please watch the movie vaxxed
Please watch the Truth about vaccines by Charlene &Ty Bolinger before you become a doctor
I stand up and applaud Jenny McCarthy, Dr. Jerry Kartzinel and J.B. Handley!
This doctor on stage is an absolute toddler. "Don't yell at me because I'll get angry!" What a joke.
"dont give me science because I'll get angry!"
@Diamonddavej I want to refute you, but it makes so much freakin sense. Also, thank you for not being a spammer.
Having been turned away by my own doctors 3 year EARLIER...
Given my medical records and account of all it entailed, all of my doctors have told me they believe me that the vaccination was responsible for my attack.
The problem with my original neuro and GP is that they NEVER let me tell them everything that I was experiencing.
The GP cut me off, changing the subject, throwing up one smoke screen after another and the neuro had already made up his mind b4 he saw me, protecting the GP.
i am all for vaccines but the guy in blue is getting emotional and u shouldnt in a scientific debate
But he’s right
If I were a doctor, a man who’s spent literal years studying medicine I’d get pretty emotional too if THERE WAS A FUCKING PREVENTABLE DISEASE THATS BEEN PRACTICALLY ERADICATED IN THE LAST 50 YEARS BUT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FUCKING RETARDS WHOLL BELIVE ANY DUMBASS FACEBOOK POST OVER A PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT DISEASE IS STILL GOING ON AND EVEN EFFECTING PEOPLE WHO HAVE TAKEN THE STEPS TO PREVENT THAT DISEASE! FUCK ANTI VAXXERS!
Kevin Bacon, you forgot to turn your caps off.
Well since you don’t know, try to figure it out! Stop crying and complaining when someone brings a possible problem. They are trying to have the conversation with the doctor, yet he’s getting defensive!
@batigol47 Which Gallagher/Goodman study are you referencing? You are aware that there have been 2 studies conducted by Gallagher/Goodman in regards to Hep B. The later was published in Annals of Epidemiology. Both yielding the same results.
"How To Debate Science Without Any Knowledge of Science" is that your video? I rest my case.
I'm autistic and also have genetic/autoimmune disorders that have caused a cascade of problems. But, I'm 29, and without vaccines I may not have stuck around for this long. I've displayed signs of ASD and my Ehlers-Danlos since I was a baby. I was 9 when I got juvenile arthritis (JIA).
I'd rather live with my disabilities than get measles and die and/or cause the death of someone else. We need herd immunity...and now that I'm on heavy immunosuppressants, it includes me.
You've been brainwashed.
I am so sorry to hear about your medical issues. 🙏🏼😕
I do have a question though, What if you found out that all your medical problems were caused by you getting all those vaccines? You are my children’s age, so I am much older than you. When I was growing up, you never heard of all these medical issues children are having, one being Autism. The amount of vaccines that were added to children since 1989, is outrages. I now have a grandson with Autism and I know it was the vaccines. He was a normal toddler and then he changed. 😢💔
Herd immunity can be achieved without vaccines .
@PennyDreadful1 Yes but there is also a direct correlation between vaccination rates and the level of autism diagnoses.
DHHS invited me to file, with a letter telling me I might be entitled to compensation under VICP. I had 2 months to get the "filing" done.
I knew what happened to me. I was very hurt, on disability and my medical records had already been pulled and detailed. What did I have to lose by filing?
I knew my original doctors did not treating me ethically and my current neuro has apologized to me for their lack of professionalism and proper care.
He has never treated me so callously.
@brianmaui Yes I have read his study - and I know the entire study was discredited earlier this year when he was disbarred and has been withdrawn from nearly all medical journals. He broke a major series of ethical codes, failed to mention inconsistances between his results and the test subjects medical records and put the kids through a series of tests they didn't even need. But my major problem with him is his constant suggestion of a cure; making autism sound like a disease imo
It is a disease...a state of dis-ease.
I get vacations and I don't have autism
I get penicillan and have no issues. My aunt gets it and she goes into organ failure.
You mean vaccinations.
My four kids had all their vaccinations and fortunately don't have autism.
However, there are an unsettling number of kids that are.
Go see Vaxxed: From Cover-Up to Catastrophe (www.vaxxedthemovie.com).
Me and 2 of my kids are allergic to penicillin - shortness of breath and hives. Two of my kids are not allergic.
Only dyslexia
That's such a stupid argument. You might be able to eat a peanut, but that same peanut could kill other children. And the real truth is that you don't know if vaccines have hurt you. the realization of the damage could show up as much as forty years later int eh form of cancer or Parkinson's. Good luck with that.
Doc in the blue talked a lot and said absolutely nothing. He quoted no studies, gave no statistics, said nothing specific. All he had was emotion.
Moms & dads are never going to be quiet about autism. Parents will always ask questions about WHY is my kid sick. If for no other reason than to spare other parents the same problems that they have to deal with. What could I have done differently? What hurt my child? Who can I sue for damages? What can I do so my next child won't have autism?
+Eric Dietz You can't sue anyone. when your child is injured by vaccines, the cost is all on the parents - yet the vaccine industry thinks they should have the right to refuse. It costs at minimum around 3.2 million dollars OOP to care for vaccine injured child, and a large number of them will need life-long care.
Especially because so many have been duped to think this is "autism." It is vaccine injury and "autism" is only a co-morbid condition of it. these children have many medical, neurological, metabolic, and immunologic issues and conditions because of vaccines. Don't be fooled by their game of semantics.
I've had all my vaccines and I'm glad!
Good for u.....but not for all...
Danielle Johnson Arent you lucky youre one of the thousands of people to get no irreversible effects.
Riff Raff You mean to say hundreds of millions, or what is otherwise known as the overwhelming majority.
Aztek Priest the only one here who said stupid shit was you. Hundreds of millions of people have "NO irreversible side effects?" Are you implying that once mercury, formaldehye and aluminum is injected directly into your tissues, there are no consequences on the human body? Are you implying that the majority of the population is 100% healthy? Have you heard of disease such as alzheimers, depression, anxiety, parkinsons, MS, lyme disease, cancer, psoarsis and so on? Sorry but, something is causing these problems. Considering mercury is well known to be NEUROTOXIC, its really not that far of a stretch to say that all these neurological issues may be related at least partially to vaccines. You're really fucking dumb arent you. No surprise, as im assuming youve been heavily vaccinated.
Pumpped The dose makes the poison. Just because aluminum and mercury are in vaccines, doesn't make them bad. Infact, the amount in them is extremely tiny. They are just there to boost the effectiveness of the vaccine and make sure the viruses in them are dead. I've had all of my vaccinations (including polio, HPV, etc.) Not only were there no adverse effects, now I know I won't get paralyzed or get cancer. This anti vaccine movement is pointless, and is spreading misinformation to people who don't know how vaccines even work. Let your kid get polio if you want, but you're just helping another epidemic form.
lets not blame a vaccine for a child having autism .
@mott308 Scrubs are also worn to allow freer movement while working. Many chiropractic doctors choose to wear scrubs because providing spinal adjustments and adjunctive therapies are very physical activities. I see 500+ pv/week (about the same flow as a small hospital) @ 30+ new patients/month with 10,000 patient files, about three times as much patient flow as an average MD, but still wear comfortable loose clothing.
@StopGMO This is almost too much. I am real happy that you know the names of the factors that are classified under ASD. The part I am missing is where that somehow proves a spike in the real numbers off all these disorders vs that the current number and not in large a new way of accounting. But please keep going.
This is no debate; just an angry doctor's pride being crushed and he can't stand up with real detailed facts. Anyone can say studies have been done. Blah, blah, blah.
Especially when the studies have not been done and the ones they rely on are funded by the vaccine manufacturers themselves. But they NEVER did any synergistic toxicological studies. they admitted that to congress. I knwo congress doesn't care as if they did, they would have put an immediate moratorium on giving multiple vaccines in a day until those studies were done.
I like how a woman that is half plastic is telling us what NOT to put in our bodies 😂😂😂
When will doctors say I Don't Know ??????? They just refuse to say this .
The doctor in blue suddenly doesn’t sound like a doctor..
As soon as the antivax guy makes a valid point, the doctor goes all irrational and loud and overpowering!
+jshowa o I would rather a healthy kid and skip all the conspiracy shit! Watch some documentaries and look at actual statistics about when outbreaks occurred. It was always AFTER mass vaccinations were introduced. You're just a sheep. You'll follow whatever mainstream tells you.
+jshowa o watch a few decent documentaries by people who aren't on bug pharma's watch. The term "independent trials" does not exist with vaccines. As if the fucking pharmaceutical company or the CDC (who is cashed up by big pharma) is going to pull a drug that makes them trillions of dollars due to side effects. It HAS been proven that the drugs don't work. It HAS been proven that aluminium is toxic and causes neural damage, it HAS been proven that vaccines containing thimerosol cause autism, it HAS been proven that it took thousands of dead babies that were SOLD to pharmaceutical industries to be used in vaccines. It HAS been proven that our children are getting injected with dead baby dna. It HAS been proven that vaccines are fucked up and should not be used. All throughout the creation of time, vaccines have killed. Smallpox was cured when sanitation improved. In the meantime, smallpox vaccines killed a tonne of people. Do some research or follow the flock being led to slaughter.
Kelly Rooney yep...get mad n shout or fire you as a patient
Kelly Rooney do some research he says...
Go get a medical degree... then it will make more sense...
God damned conspiracy theories...you should believe everything on the web that you arent educated on... go to school then youll learn what all those bad stuff does in CONTEXT... and youll learn the facts ... not outdated hyperbolic bullcrapp that you found on some dodgy website..
Kelly Rooney What valid point? The antivax guy comes through emotional as hell which is when the doctor started yelling. Honestly, I would to. It’s aggravating hearing morons talk about things they can’t understand all the while insisting they do because they “read”. I could fill my time reading shit online and not come out the least bit informed for it.
thank god I'm in Australia and they have the no jab no play laws
You are happy about giving up your rights and your population becoming sicker? Wow. Just the kind of bot they want.
@@catcar1937 Vaccines don’t make the population sicker. Stop the nonsense. Just because you can say something doesn’t make it true.
We all know the truth.
My brother is friends with a couple who used to be against vaccines. What made them change? Three of their four children died a horrible, painful death from meningitis, but, they and their remaining child did not get sick because they got meningitis vaccines after the others got sick. Even if vaccines were the cause of autism, I would rather have my future children get autism than die from meningitis.
this "doctor" is embarrassing
This "comment" is-
molly riley I'm sure he knows a lot more about the subject than you ✌🏾️
This doctor is sick of seeing children die because of morons who refuse to vaccinate.
This doctor just has no clue.
+Lil King troll troll troll troll! Get back under your bridge!
+ChelseafcTube You have no such right to say this when you obviously are not an MD nor studied for an MD. You simply don't know it.
Doctors study the manuals? ROFL. Grab an MCAT study books and see what you find inside. That's the MINIMAL knowledge of science they need to get into a SCHOOL. You obviously have no idea because you were too stupid to even think about the medical school.
Who is the doctor in the audience??
Why is Autism being seen as a horrible thing for your child have? Autistic kids are wonderful and amazing HUMAN BEINGS.
I will agree to disagree. I will say that we all can agree that I think we vaccine to much to soon. Yes we need more research
The research is there. It is being suppressed. Just like RJ Reynolds and the tobacco industry. They know they are killing us. It is by design. But as long as people want to debate it rather than demand action, kids will keep getting autism and other disorders.
The research has been done to death
@@catcar1937 vaccines do not cause autism. As a parent of an autistic child I know this. Stop spreading that rumor fear mongering head up your ass lie.
@@deadbunnyking you are doing a huge disservice to your child. Jenny actually has made tremendous progress with her child. What progress have you made? As someone who actually HAS autism, caused by VACCINATIONS, your dribble is meaningless to me.
Vaccinations do not cause autism. Period. This has been verified over and over and over again. My son has made great strides and is learning everyday. My son is wonderful and I wouldn't change him at all. I was vaccinated and no signs of autism. My wife was vaccinated and no signs of autism. You are wrong. Your autism was not caused by vaccinations. That is a lie and should die. Period.
Wow the man in the audience states facts and the doctors get really emotional. its a distraction from the truth.
They're not facts, they're lies do some of your research you numbnut
You're right. J.B. tells the truth and the doctor in blue can't handle the truth. I'm just looking forward to the day when people realize that about 75% of modern medicine is just a scam. The "well" certainly have no need of physicians,and they can't stand that. It's sickening to see who full their parking lots are, and dour hospitals are filled to capacity thanks to their "modern" medicine."
You're an evil human being, and nuts - a rebel without a clue.
Let’s have an open discussion but don’t yell at me, it’s hurtful and that gives me an excuse to say you’re wrong about things
Pediatrician, Dr Larry Palevsky and Dr Mercola have an extremely facinating and enlightening conversation on this subject on UA-cam.
They are far more enlightened than Dr Stork and his associate.
This show totally lost my respect and interest because it's clear they didn't want to hear what JB had to contribute. If you've researched anything with the whistleblower, it's proof! This show is worthless.
Yes and pigs can. fly.
+Kim Boer They didn't want to hear what he had to contribute because all he was contributing was his unjustified assumption that vaccines are what cause autism. He had no evidence to support it.
+Kim Boer Because JB is an investor with no scientific background. He can not look at studies and decide of they are property conducted. All he can do is relay some article he read.
+TJazz MCNeil well, he was never given the chance to elaborate even if he did show evidence. Ps this show is paid for by pharmaceutical companies. They know where their bread is buttered. This isn't even a platform to have an even sided debate about vaccines
Kelly Rooney You should look up information about this JB guy. Being given the chance to elaborate would not have helped his case. If you look on his organizations website there is a bio about him and why he is focusing on Vaccines. His entire campaign against them is based on unjustified assumptions. What he should be doing, if he actually believes this association exists, is using his funds to support further research on the topic or promoting the topic to politicians so that more funding can be delegating to autism research....instead of drawing unsupported conclusions, which is hurting his position. And you presenting conspiracy theories is not helping your case either.
It's sad that people put all there trust in Doctors when clearly the only people we should listen to is ourself ! It's has been shown time and time again that the side effects from almost every drug out there is worse then the actual issue that we use the drugs for! From my personal experiences I can say that all the doctors I have had to deal with there are few I trust! I have seen it time and time again to many doctors play god and when someone has the balls to disagree with them they don't like it. No doctor wants to be told they are wrong but guess what it happens way more then people want to admit!
Hey do you have Polio?
You started out with the name calling and put downs with my first post. You called me "thunder thighs", said my "hair cut sucks", my "music sucks" . Said I was googling answers that I was lying, etc....
So what do you mean, "I can play that game , too."? YOU DO PLAY THAT GAME. You play it every day.
Don't pretend you're some kind of good and kind person on here just trying to do the right thing. I have just as much right to be here as you and I'm certainly entitled to tell my story.
@cbheld Absolutely right on!
The doctor in blue needs to take a little less cocaine before he goes on stage next time.
You mean common sense.
Yep, also, I'd say he was prompted to go off his nut if something valid was raised.
Valid? What was a valid concern? That idiots don't know shit and keep wanting..... You know what? I agree. No more vaccines. To many idiots live on this planet. Let's weed them out.
Will Hale No one likes being challenged by idiots.
Will Hale No but questioning things that are already facts does make you an idiot.
Its impossible to argue with an antivaxer, you might as well spit at the sky
And on that note, I'm going to bed. I have to work tomorrow, but I do look forward to reading your answers, should you ever actually answer the question. (Though I doubt you will).
@batigol47 The earlier study used an NHIS data set different from the one used in the current study, further confirming results of both studies.
You left out the best part.
*you are a guest in my world
@mikenotnumberone1 (...continued) the world of pokemon is? what about the suspected people? einstien's special intrests were math, and physics and was intensly focused on these complex areas, how about davinci? notice how complex his artwork is, or how he was intensly focused in his scientific studdys? I'd like to ask those people that you know who are on the spectrum about there family history and if they are nonverbal or not cognitive enough then ask the parents see if any of the......
He was VERY unhappy that I didn't go for it and told me, As long as I thought I was master of the universe, he could ot help me".
So if he could not help me, I thought it best I find another doctor.
Then, by all means call it doctor shopping, if it give you the thrills you seek.
We live in a wonderful world. Becoming a celebrity means you know more than scientists and doctors and scholars. America's got talent.
Doctors know nothing if they were taught the wrong things. Go look at who publishes the largest medical textbook in the world. There's your sign.....
That one doctor even cried 'We don't know!!'
This is what doctors know $$$$$ They're owned by the Pharmaceutical Companies. That guy in blue said 99% of pediatricians say....blah blah. Don't we know how data is manipulated. How truth is and science is censored? Remember covid? The vax? Ivermectin?
@chiropractic47
Sanitation has improved drastically in the last decade? How so, exactly?
Why would you cry? Omg
Its like saying - when you leave your house, you will have a much lower risk of getting hit by a car.
@mikenotnumberone1 you still need electric for the internet, there is a current running through you dsl line, satalite reciver, or cable modem
Who are doing the studies? I hope it's an independent organisation other than the manufacturer or associated organisations
Excuse me, I meant a case with VICP not VAERS.
You're getting shredded here as usual. Lol !!!
"Let's have an open discussion"
Talks over and cuts off someone with a different opinion.
@mikenotnumberone1 (continued) well for one thing individules with autsim have verry strong and intese intrests that they can completly focus in on while almost ignoring everything else right? well lets look at the few famous people who are d/xed as well as some of the suspeted people, they tend to be involved with complexity do they not? first the dxed people: actress daryl hanah is alwase playing thes verry complex roles her father was also an engineer, or satashi tarjin notice how complex....
Point of this debate is for these doctors to still cause confusing
I have autism, this is what autism is. Autism is a different way the brain can be "wired". Some observations may lead an outside observer to think one way, but without the rest of the context it can be very misleading. People with autism take in more information from their surroundings. While doing some activity the neurotypical person (not autistic) may take some time to process said activity and some of their surroundings, an autistic person takes in everything around them that is going on while doing an activity. Take eating lunch in cafeteria for example; while sitting with their friends a neurotypical person will be eating food, talking with their friends, and listening to what they are saying while an autistic person will be doing the same while taking in every sound difference in their friends voice, eye movement, body language, and doing all of these things with anything they also see and hear. Because of that a delay in time to respond may occur as they are taking in and processing more information before they can respond. A lot of autistic people also have Sensory Processing Disorder, which is a disorder that manifest itself in such a way that the individual with it processes their senses either more dramatically or less. For example, take the cafeteria example again; the autistic may be hearing every noise and conversation at once in that room and the lights may be fine for some people and so bright for an autistic person it is physically painful. This can get overwhelming as all of this stimulus can be too much. Stimulus is any information gathered by any of your 7 primary senses: sight, touch, hearing, smell, taste, proprioceptive (sense of where you are in space and movement), and vestibular (sense of balance). While these are external stimuli, internal stimuli can affect an autistic person in the same way; internal stimulus being things such as stress or anxiety to name a few. It is important to let an autistic person know how they live and process information is normal and fine, there is nothing wrong with them. They are perfectly normal people, just with a nerotype that isn't typical. Too much can cause a meltdown sometimes, or a shutdown. A shutdown is straightforward as they just shutdown like a computer and need to rebute away from all that stimulus. A meltdown is when the autistic person goes into a fight or flight response, where they will act accordingly as does anyone when their subconscious feels threatened. Keep in mind, too much stimulus is painful, and be drastically so. You could say that a shutdown is when the fight or flight response goes so extreme they freeze. To combat all of this stimulus an autistic person needs to do one of two things, and may sometimes need help doing them: 1.) Remove the negative stimulus, say like going somewhere darker or quieter 2.) Stim. Stimming can be with any of the 7 primary senses as it replaces bad information, or stimulus, with good. This may be repeating some sound, rocking back or forth, touching some textured object, or hand flapping. These are just a tiny few examples of stimming. Stimming is good stimulus, so an autistic person may stim sometimes just because it feels good to do so with no other reason or maybe to express themselves as is natural and feels good to them. Sometimes when an autistic person has too much negative stimulus they may become nonverbal, or in other words may not be able to talk or use their words. Sometimes they may still be able to make sounds, write, or communicate in some other alternative fashion. Some autistic people take in more stimulus than other autistic people, and can be prone to experiencing more meltdowns and being nonverbal. Nonverbal occurs when the mind and body has to divert resources to dealing with other tasks. An autistic person may normally not be nonverbal but become so during a meltdown or when overwhelmed. Sometimes instead of being nonverbal, there might be a stutter instead. An autistic person has a certain amount of “spoons” they have for every day. Spoons the resources (mentally, emotionally, physically) you can use to do some task. Some days you may have more spoons, and other days you may feel like you none. Getting up out of bed cost spoons, dressing oneself cost spoons, brushing your teeth, showering, eating breakfast, going to work, going to class, anything you do cost some amount of spoons; with little resources of spoons available, you may only be able to accomplish only a few tasks, and that is perfectly okay. Sometimes a task can cost a lot of spoons, and sometimes the same task may cost more spoons than other times. Sometimes looking at a person's face or communicating with someone can be difficult. Communication is like a dance, and can be very difficult to follow. There are 3 ways of communication: what is said, how it is said, and body language. A person's face goes through a lot of changes over a short period of time to reflect how they are feeling, and looking at a person while talking can take a lot of spoons at time. It can be very overwhelming to try to pick up on a lot of cues people have in any form of communication. A lot of times an autistic person may only focus on one form of communication, if any, to be able to communicate. Communication in of itself (talking, listening, changes in subject) yet alone looking at some, taking in all the noise, and light, among some many things happening at once can be too much. If things feel that way, that everything is overwhelming, it is okay to remove yourself from that situation or choose not to be there in the first place. There is nothing wrong in taking care of yourself
Thank you. This helped me better understand my son
This guy in the blue scrubs is such a baby haha wahwahwah
The doctor in the blue scrubs was not prepared for this debate and it showed. Granted, this was from right around the time the anti-vax movement really started so he probably wasn’t used to having to come up with good counters for stuff like this. I think anti-vax is nonsense but that doctor did not do the medical community any favors with that performance.
*smh* Stop saying they're studied because they're not! This is so sickening and saddening for the children of the future. :-(
I'm still uncertain about the correlation between vaccines and autism, but the hosts clearly lost this debate.