OpenAI Voice Mode CANCELLED plus Microsoft's new desktop assistant.

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  • @ratatosk001
    @ratatosk001 25 днів тому +223

    It is CLEARLY two different voices. And even if someone were to claim they sound somewhat similar, so what? Does that diva own the rights to all female voices that might resemble hers?
    Completely ridiculous.

    • @stockholmpublishings2937
      @stockholmpublishings2937 24 дні тому +2

      yupp

    • @jason_v12345
      @jason_v12345 24 дні тому +1

      Read the law before you speak. Your opinion about what the law SHOULD be is irrelevant.

    • @KevKlopper
      @KevKlopper 24 дні тому +13

      @@jason_v12345you must be a bot

    • @Thedeepseanomad
      @Thedeepseanomad 24 дні тому +3

      ​@@KevKlopper
      There is legal president that seems relevant to a degree: Midler v. Ford Motor Co.

    • @ratatosk001
      @ratatosk001 24 дні тому +1

      @@jason_v12345 OK well then, I invite you to educate me by providing a reference to the specific law that grants Johansson the right to any and all voices that resemble hers. I am particularly interested in understanding how this aspect of the law is articulated.
      Oh, and while you're at it, please provide me with a relevant case law or precedence that supports this.

  • @JustareDonier
    @JustareDonier 25 днів тому +288

    I think what should happen is the actress that voiced Sky should sue S.J. for loss of income for claiming her (voice actress) voice was S.J.s since she will now lose the income from it.

    • @Alangutierrez93
      @Alangutierrez93 25 днів тому +7

      That's not how it works...

    • @billtanno8960
      @billtanno8960 25 днів тому

      @@Alangutierrez93 It could be how it works.. these IP claims are pretty retarded.

    • @Windswept7
      @Windswept7 25 днів тому +4

      @@Alangutierrez93Do you know the contract details?

    • @Shy--Tsunami
      @Shy--Tsunami 24 дні тому +1

      Yes 😂

    • @bigbotzone
      @bigbotzone 24 дні тому +3

      ​@@Alangutierrez93So if theres another actress who voiced it, SJ can still say it sounds like her?

  • @lun321
    @lun321 25 днів тому +178

    "Do they sound the same?" No, absolutely not.

    • @phpn99
      @phpn99 24 дні тому +5

      Clearly everyone else thinks they do

    • @rayzorr
      @rayzorr 24 дні тому +13

      ​@@phpn99who is this "everyone else" you speak of

    • @illarionbykov7401
      @illarionbykov7401 24 дні тому +1

      Sky was sampled from the voice of another actress who has a similar-sounding voice and speaking style, and it was done intentionally. It's not the same, but fairly close. I think a lawsuit would fail, but it would cause bad publicity for OpenAI.

    • @mistervanderveer
      @mistervanderveer 24 дні тому +15

      they dont sound the same at all to the trained (or untrained) ear. what a ridiculous mass psychosis.

    • @tonyppe
      @tonyppe 24 дні тому +1

      They're exactly the same style of voice. There are many different people with different voices and these 2 are pretty identical. What is different about them?

  • @Windswept7
    @Windswept7 25 днів тому +241

    How DARE two humans sound similar!?!
    Clearly famous people own ALL the mouth noises!

    • @mito._
      @mito._ 25 днів тому

      Certainly a FIRST WORLD problem, therefore it is everybody's problem! 💢

    • @Sage16226
      @Sage16226 25 днів тому +5

      Nah, they basically did the human version of a deepfake. It's sus when you go to her, then when she said no, you make something that sound very similar.

    • @Windswept7
      @Windswept7 25 днів тому +18

      @@Sage16226 Have you considered that it only sounds similar because of the association with the movie ‘Her’.
      The ‘Sky’ voice has been in ChatGPT since it started doing voice, yet *magically* no one made that correlation until media started associating it with the movie ‘Her’. 🤔

    • @fitybux4664
      @fitybux4664 25 днів тому +4

      Also they own pronouns such as "her". Terrible name for a movie if you're trying to play the copyright game. 😆

    • @Sage16226
      @Sage16226 25 днів тому +1

      @@Windswept7 Bro even tweeted "her" after the event. Also I didn't watch the movie her until after this openai event and when I first heard it and thought they got SJ to do it for them.

  • @orionspur
    @orionspur 25 днів тому +223

    The other poor voice actress can no longer work for a living because Scarlett thinks she's such a diva.

    • @woodoyoy
      @woodoyoy 25 днів тому +8

      exactly

    • @marcfruchtman9473
      @marcfruchtman9473 25 днів тому +11

      Exactly... rather than take the voice down, if the "other actress" is real, then OpenAI should Knuckle up... and tell "her" that this was a unique voice over actress.
      So, basically, it is "wrong" to essentially de-list an entire voice just because of some similarity.
      We see "actors" getting cast because they "look Like" another actor or would look like another actor with some minor makeup.
      So, if the voice was then "modified" to sound like "her", but was still based on some "other" person, and the modification did not "train" using "her", then that would probably be ok.
      On the other hand, if they literally trained it on her voice, then that seems pretty wrong.

    • @Windswept7
      @Windswept7 24 дні тому +8

      SJ’s agent was prolly like:
      Agent: Dodgy or not, think about it-this is a goldmine for publicity. Imagine the headlines: ‘AI steals famous voice!’ It’s the perfect storm.
      SJ: Feels a bit slimy, making a fuss if it’s just vaguely like me. Isn’t that a stretch?
      Agent: Stretch or not, who cares? This isn’t about them or the AI-it’s about you getting your name splashed across every social platform. This is free buzz we’re talking about. Major exposure.
      SJ: And you’re sure this will play out well? It’s not just going to look like I’m throwing a tantrum over nothing?
      Agent: Look, it’s simple. We say it’s about protecting artist integrity or some high-road stuff like that. Frame it as you taking a stand against big tech using people’s likenesses without consent. It’s topical, it’s spicy-it sells. 🔥🤑

    • @robbrown2
      @robbrown2 24 дні тому +5

      She already got paid. And she can work as a voice actress in any context where it isn't obvious that they were trying to mimic someone else's voice that turned them down.

    • @Windswept7
      @Windswept7 24 дні тому +3

      @@robbrown2 So you know for a fact the contract has no residuals or royalties for ongoing use? 🤔

  • @okamichamploo
    @okamichamploo 25 днів тому +74

    They definitely sound like different people. They tried to make it a comforting voice, similar to the movie "her", but the voice is not the same.

    • @geoffsmith82
      @geoffsmith82 24 дні тому +4

      And the voice in "her" is not Johannsen's normal voice either

    • @daveinpublic
      @daveinpublic 23 дні тому

      Why is no one talking about another one of Wes’ videos having a clickbait title? I’m shocked that he’s getting misleading in his headlines now.

  • @okamichamploo
    @okamichamploo 25 днів тому +34

    So if a movie studio asks an actress to play a role because she is very similar to the character they imagined, but the studio is turned down, would that actress then be able to sue if the studio went and found someone else who is very similar to the character they imagined for the part?

    • @markjackson1989
      @markjackson1989 24 дні тому +1

      If Scarlet wins, then it'll set precedent.

    • @mickelodiansurname9578
      @mickelodiansurname9578 24 дні тому +1

      Well according to Scarlett she cannot 'sound like' any period character that was a real person. So for example if she got a part playing say Jane Fonda in a biography? They are both from Manhattan New York and will have a similar accent and voice. So Scarlett is insisting she should not be allowed to act!

  • @andrewherron7521
    @andrewherron7521 25 днів тому +61

    I think it’s a real stretch to say that the ‘Sky’ voice sounds like Scarlet Johannsen. The voice actress they used is the hurt party here!

    • @TheFeedRocket
      @TheFeedRocket 24 дні тому +3

      Yes it would have been if Altman had held in his excitement over the movie, not talk about it in interviews and then NOT reached out to her, then he went nuts and posted one word "her", now they clearly proved they wanted it to be compared to her, so regardless of the voice actor used, anything even close will be a win in court. They BIG mistakes, legally they are in worse position then if never mentioning her at all, it's a shame, it was the best voice for sure. very sad.

    • @r.g.j.leclaire8963
      @r.g.j.leclaire8963 24 дні тому

      @@TheFeedRocket Exactly. He ruined it himself. dumb.

    • @user-ne7ok9sm4i
      @user-ne7ok9sm4i 24 дні тому +2

      @@TheFeedRocket Any decent voice AI system with a female voice will be referred to as "her" because people know that reference. It has nothing to do with who owns "Her" or if the voice is a 1 to 1 copy from it. "Her" features amazing voice AI - OpenAI is cleverly comparing their product to that amazing voice with this controversy - this is all an obvious publicity stunt and it's working. Sam tweeting "her" isn't anywhere near the same thing as him typing "NOW WE'VE CREATED THE EXACT SAME VOICE AS THAT HOT CHICK FROM 'HER' "! - All they need to do is prove that they trained off something/someone else and be done with it - but doing it this way puts their product all over the news and across all social media while being compared to a futuristic voiced AI that not only sounds real but sounds like a smoking hot celeb. Yet another brilliant Sam Altman scheme.

  • @djayjp
    @djayjp 25 днів тому +121

    You paid another person who has a vaguely similar voice to me and used it in a product.... How dare you not pay ME instead!! 🤦‍♂️
    What's wrong with her wtf.

    • @michaelz8235
      @michaelz8235 25 днів тому +3

      Agreed

    • @Alangutierrez93
      @Alangutierrez93 25 днів тому +2

      That's not how it works. That was not another voice actress. That was a computer generated ai voice. Most likely trained off of Scarjos voice in the movie "her"

    • @glenh1369
      @glenh1369 25 днів тому +1

      You are basing your statement on assumptions.

    • @SaveThisRepublic
      @SaveThisRepublic 24 дні тому +7

      @@Alangutierrez93 Prove it

    • @NeedaNewAlias
      @NeedaNewAlias 24 дні тому

      Money!

  • @hardboiledaleks9012
    @hardboiledaleks9012 25 днів тому +102

    "the machine sounds like me" is such a 1st world problem it might actually be the very first 0th world problem ever...

    • @mito._
      @mito._ 25 днів тому +6

      My thoughts precisely!

    • @michaelwoodby5261
      @michaelwoodby5261 24 дні тому +6

      May we all become citizens of the 0th world via the Singularity. I dream of the day that these are my biggest problems.

    • @thehorse6770
      @thehorse6770 24 дні тому +1

      0.01st world problem

    • @josephgorka
      @josephgorka 24 дні тому

      ​@@mito._yip

  • @LukeLorenzo
    @LukeLorenzo 25 днів тому +21

    Scarjo needs to chill. She turned it down, they found a voice actor to give them what they were looking for.

  • @hamidmosalla1094
    @hamidmosalla1094 25 днів тому +24

    I don't think the voices are similar, but it seems that Johansson tries to stretch the meaning of similar to be able to attract public attention to the things she mentioned in the last paragraph.

  • @haroldpierre1726
    @haroldpierre1726 25 днів тому +61

    News flash Scarlett, it's not all about you. Get over yourself.

    • @zacboyles1396
      @zacboyles1396 24 дні тому +1

      It could have been, but she turned it down... 😅
      If she had agreed, OpenAI would’ve leaned into “Her” a lot more than a meme tweet, that’s what everyone’s overlooking. I think they reached out to her multiple times to license the physical embodiment of “her”, not just some lame attempt to cover for an aftermarket voice.
      They wanted something more.

    • @jason_v12345
      @jason_v12345 24 дні тому +1

      Question: Why do you CARE so much? Like seriously.

    • @haroldpierre1726
      @haroldpierre1726 24 дні тому

      @@jason_v12345 Because my business depends on AI and it is my competitive advantage. As soon as improvements and new features are available, it's implemented into my business within minutes of access. One person or company complaining or suing, causing the company (OpenAI) to delay, change, or modify their feature threatens my implementation and my advantage over my competitors. Right now, my competitors are asleep on this.

    • @user-ne7ok9sm4i
      @user-ne7ok9sm4i 24 дні тому

      @@jason_v12345 because controversy like this is designed to attract all of these reactions / awareness of a product and we're all hopelessly reactive consumers.

  • @ShaneInseine
    @ShaneInseine 25 днів тому +65

    Sky does not sound exactly like Scarlett. It sounds like a friendly female. I'm a fan of Scarlett and would have noticed.

    • @tadmikowsky7520
      @tadmikowsky7520 25 днів тому +13

      Sounds like 2 different ppl to me. Not sure what 'her' friends are smoking

    • @scrout
      @scrout 25 днів тому +1

      Damn close to SJ inflection.... Since they backed down so easily, of course that's who they were trying to mimic.

    • @AAjax
      @AAjax 25 днів тому +2

      @@tadmikowsky7520 famous people are usually surrounded by people who don't disagree with them

    • @ShaneInseine
      @ShaneInseine 24 дні тому

      @@scrout Scarlett is a better actor.

    • @ShaneInseine
      @ShaneInseine 24 дні тому +1

      @@tadmikowsky7520 The funny thing is that OpenAI will be able to use AI to prove it isn't Scarlett's voice and they are just waiting for the perfect opportunity.

  • @0x0404
    @0x0404 25 днів тому +20

    Well, if she passed up on it and the new voice sounds like her that's her own problem. If it isn't exactly the same then all she gets is nothing. If we can't use voices that sound similar to someone then we can't use voices at all.

  • @delightfulThoughs
    @delightfulThoughs 24 дні тому +14

    In the first place Open ai didn't want Scarlette's voice, they wanted Her's voice. If Scarlett was no ready to do the job, I think anyone else could, right?

    • @mickelodiansurname9578
      @mickelodiansurname9578 24 дні тому +4

      Simple question for Johannsson "Were you acting in the movie her or are you a real AI model?"
      and she would say "I was acting in a movie!" in which case the obvious answer is OpenAI found a voice actor that SOUNDED LIKE the character in the movie.... unless Johannsson wants to make the point that she really is an AI model?

  • @brianWreaves
    @brianWreaves 25 днів тому +12

    When watching the OAI demo, "her" came to mind, not because of the voice, but because of the friendly, flirtatious interaction. OAI should have made its case and proved, by introducing the actual voice actor, it was not a duplicate.

  • @claudioagmfilho
    @claudioagmfilho 25 днів тому +18

    🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, The voice named Sky was an amazing choice for voice, hands down the best voice openAI had for us to use. I think of ourselves as users, we have a great loss as users since the voice Sky just is no longer an option.

  • @michaelz8235
    @michaelz8235 25 днів тому +16

    Sounds almost as if everyone expects OpenAI to not go forward with any AI voice. This is how business goes... If you don't want to do the job, someone else will.

    • @ClayMann
      @ClayMann 24 дні тому

      I really think Sam Altman wanted this so bad though. The original actresses voice at the helm of their flagship A.I product. It would have been a hugely successful marketing move with her in demo's and adverts. He loves the movie and even directed his team to watch it as a pointer towards what they want their system to do. I fully support him going ahead with it anyway with a female voice that sounds nice but is absolutely not the actress. But perhaps Sam Altman didn't really read up on the actress who recently won a big case against Disney. She has a formidable legal team behind her and instantly jumped to legal action.

  • @ayeboua
    @ayeboua 25 днів тому +16

    Sky didn't sound like Scarlett Johanson, but more like RASHIDA JONES

    • @AAjax
      @AAjax 25 днів тому +5

      That's it! I was trying to figure out who she reminded me of, and you nailed it!

    • @missoats8731
      @missoats8731 24 дні тому +3

      100%

    • @mickelodiansurname9578
      @mickelodiansurname9578 24 дні тому +2

      Agreed, and I went off to play a video, hiding the video itself just to see... and yes Sky sounds like Rashida Jones... then again Sky sounds like every single American woman from my perspective since I'm Irish and all American women sound pretty much the same to me... plus, I'm sure she SOUNDSLIKE a Los Angelian, and even within LA she SOUNDS LIKE whatever neighborhood she lived in... plus Johannsson needs to worry now about this real life Sky person... cos if they are older... well Johannsson just claimed she is using Sky's voice and making money from it in movies like 'Her'

    • @MarcAyouni
      @MarcAyouni 23 дні тому +1

      Everyone keeps saying this, so I went and listened to her voice to see ... omg it is so obviously Rashida Jones

  • @rwalper
    @rwalper 24 дні тому +8

    What makes this issue ridiculously stupid and moot is that users will just use whatever voice model they wish, and techologies like Eleven Labs will allow anyone to replicate any voice they want or creat custom ones wholesale.

    • @tortysoft
      @tortysoft 24 дні тому

      Quite, read my post.

  • @mazfrost
    @mazfrost 25 днів тому +26

    This title is referring to the already well known fact that Scarlet Johannsen's voice isn't going to be included in the voice options for the entire voice mode... "OpenAI Voice Mode CANCELLED" is clickbait and exaggeration of the situation. I really like a lot of your content, and it's your right to post what you want on your channel, but I've noticed more of your content is becoming either SHOCKING clickbait or intentionally vague/deceptive clickbait like this. I unsub from channels like this because I don't want a ton of shallow and redundant content in my sub box. I understand how it can be easy to write off all comments like this as "haters", but it's just honest feedback from someone in your audience who for the most part liked your work.

    • @MudroZvon
      @MudroZvon 24 дні тому +7

      yes, he tests our patience, wastes the earned credit of trust

    • @emma_s.234
      @emma_s.234 24 дні тому +3

      Was about to comment exactly the same thing. Thanks for saving me time. Bending the information to clickbait me is irritating. Want my view, Wes? Then don’t do this to your subscribers. Thanks.

    • @rikkousa
      @rikkousa 24 дні тому +4

      All fair points. I am seeing these titles pop-up everywhere (music, guitar, history etc.). I wonder if all of this exaggeration accelerated after AI was launched?

    • @tellesu
      @tellesu 24 дні тому +1

      Agreed

    • @expertseries
      @expertseries 24 дні тому +2

      He explained why he does this with his titles and thumbnails in a previous video. Some of us simply notice when he has a new video, ignore his marketing tactic, and listen in. (But you won’t see this comment as you’ve already unsubscribed… right? 😂)

  • @markmurex6559
    @markmurex6559 25 днів тому +13

    This SJ voice thing is so dumb.

  • @GaryMillyz
    @GaryMillyz 25 днів тому +12

    They shoulda used Wes' voice. Silky smoooooove 😎

  • @navtej1313
    @navtej1313 25 днів тому +7

    Apparently Sam loves Her. The best parts of the movie was from Allan Waats. My hero.
    Sam’s loves HER so much that he is willing to make Lucy come alive.
    It shall happen.

    • @therainman7777
      @therainman7777 25 днів тому +5

      Samantha, not Lucy. That’s a different Scarlett Johansson movie 😂

    • @SU3D3
      @SU3D3 25 днів тому

      😂

  • @mwalker52
    @mwalker52 25 днів тому +6

    The AI voice sounds more like Ann Hathaway than Scarlett Johansson.

  • @andyjm2k
    @andyjm2k 25 днів тому +10

    Doesn’t sound like her to me… more “regular” to me

  • @Loli_Awakening
    @Loli_Awakening 25 днів тому +13

    She must think she's so special. The voice doesn't even sound exactly like her. She just wants to start a fight out of arrogance. People could have made RVC models that sound exactly like her for a long time now, so paranoia isn't gonna solve anything for her. Just as few people care about her now as they did before voice cloning was a thing. If Open AI used her voice to train the AI, it would sound exactly like her. She's gonna make a fool out herself if she tries to sue Open AI. Petty feelings aren't a solid basis for lawsuits.

    • @mito._
      @mito._ 25 днів тому +5

      Plus, her voice isn't all that unique or special. What a shame that a "nobody" voice actress has her work and voice publicly shamed by a universally acclaimed and well-known Hollywood star. Poor girl can't catch a break. 💢

    • @mickelodiansurname9578
      @mickelodiansurname9578 24 дні тому

      If she loses such a case, and if there is a real voice actress she would lose, and assuming the voice actress is 'older' than Johannsson? Well that voice actress can sue Johannsson for using her voice in the movie 'Her'. Sky could claim she was chosen specifically becasue she sounded like the 'fictional character' Samantha from the movie 'Her' and Johannsson would now have to make a case that she was not 'acting' in that movie, that the voice and timber was not acting it was all her for real... the real Sky could in fact claim she had the voice first, and the actress Scarlett Johannsson is using her voice without her consent and for monetary gain. First whiff of that case and Johannsson would be running off with her tail between her legs.

    • @davidbayliss3789
      @davidbayliss3789 24 дні тому

      I think it's more about her reputation. If she doesn't do what she's doing ... is she then tacitly / publicly endorsing this use of "her voice" (as OTHERS might perceive it whether it really sounds like her or not)?
      And then, will that mean she'll get a bad rep. among fellow actors and industry workers (especially the ones on lower-pay) who feel their jobs are at risk from AI?
      If Sam Altman and other industry influencing insiders hadn't made the comparison with "Her" or Scarlett's association with that, then maybe Scarlett wouldn't feel pressured to make such a fuss?
      I don't know. But I'm not sure it's because she feels she's so special. Maybe. Maybe not. I suspect she might feel she's been manoeuvred into a no-win situation.

    • @Loli_Awakening
      @Loli_Awakening 24 дні тому +1

      @davidbayliss3789 If it has to do with reputation, she is the one both dumping the gasoline and lighting the match by behaving this way. She is a celebrity, not a mainstream news outlet: Doing something that destroys her reputation will be remembered forever.

    • @davidbayliss3789
      @davidbayliss3789 24 дні тому

      @@Loli_Awakening I don't understand. :(
      Are you saying, if she said nothing, that her reputation among her peers wouldn't suffer?
      There won't be people going up to her saying "why don't you do something about this?" And then if she says "it doesn't sound like me" ... and then they say "but everyone knows it's based on you ... even Sam Altman indicated as such" ... etc. ?
      And then won't some of those people start whispering behind her back ... saying she must have been paid-off somehow ... or from the misogynists ... "she must have slept with Sam" or something ... or "she obviously doesn't care about AI taking our jobs ... she's above it all ... thinks she's la di da ... " etc. ...
      Maybe she'll find [hate] "presents" for her when she uses her dressing room etc. or maybe some people will just flat-out refuse to work with her or at least snigger at her and make snide remarks.
      Maybe my imagination is just running riot. :)
      But people seem to be like that.
      You yourself seem very judgemental ... saying she must think she's so special.
      Is it such a stretch that people might not assume things of her in other directions?

  • @macsiah
    @macsiah 25 днів тому +20

    They found a voice that sounded like the AI in a movie. Why isn't the movie company complaining about their IP?

    • @TheFeedRocket
      @TheFeedRocket 24 дні тому +2

      They could, they showed clear intent, but the publicity has fueled movie popularity so they will not, they are smart! But yeah OpenAI did for some odd reason use the movie and voice to promote its work or product, that has been made clear. But why would you compare your product (an amazingly good product to get work done) and go and compare it to a dystopian sad movie where a man falls in love with his phone! That was a mistake, I like the voice because it's better than the other choices not because I like the movie, I didn't like the movie at all. The voice was good, should have never mentioned the movie and I was shocked he contacted her, BIG mistake.

    • @ClayMann
      @ClayMann 24 дні тому +3

      you can't protect an idea in a movie that wasn't even their idea. A.I assistants have been in movies and TV shows before and countless books. Its like saying our movie had red cars in it so now you can't use red cars in anything without our permission.

  • @fatherfoxstrongpaw8968
    @fatherfoxstrongpaw8968 24 дні тому +3

    i'm a navy sonar tech subs vet. the movie voice is a hard no. The interview voice is similar but wrong octave. any musician, singer, audio expert can pick it out easily.

  • @1sava
    @1sava 25 днів тому +8

    Juniper is my favorite voice in Voice Mode. Apparently the voice called “Sky” is now identical to “Juniper”. Scarlett Johansson is clearly abusing her celebrity here.

    • @billtanno8960
      @billtanno8960 25 днів тому +1

      They're still different in my app. Sky is the most human sounding to me.

    • @jobney
      @jobney 24 дні тому +1

      ​@@billtanno8960I'm still waiting for the pirate voice from a few months back to come out.

    • @stateportSound_wav
      @stateportSound_wav 24 дні тому

      @@jobneylol really? I just signed up, I miss having C-3P0 from Waze maps tbh

    • @KeCasgrimola
      @KeCasgrimola 24 дні тому

      Isn’t juniper the fat girl voice? not for me

    • @1sava
      @1sava 24 дні тому

      @@billtanno8960 Did you select Sky and then try to have a convo with it? It still has the same voice in the selection menu but once you start a new Voice Mode convo, Sky should sound like Juniper now.

  • @sanderhoogeland9161
    @sanderhoogeland9161 25 днів тому +4

    So, as I thought, they didn’t cancel the voice mode at all, they just put one of the voices on hold.

  • @zachariahstovall1744
    @zachariahstovall1744 24 дні тому +2

    personally. I didn't think of Scarlett at all when I watched the demo.

  • @nuttyDesignAndFab
    @nuttyDesignAndFab 25 днів тому +5

    similar but I didn't think identical

  • @ljviks22
    @ljviks22 25 днів тому +5

    This is nonsense…I could make the argument that Wes (the creator of this video) sound a lot like the Cove voice…people sound alike at time.
    And no I don’t mean the cove demo voice, I mean the voice in a actual chat. it sounds much different when actually using it in a chat then the demo they give

  • @OmiKhan
    @OmiKhan 25 днів тому +2

    I can see the point from both sides. I think I’m more in the side of if they actually used a voice actress they sounds similar that should be fine.

  • @Rollthered
    @Rollthered 25 днів тому +3

    I don't think its the same voice. Its not airy enough.

  • @bubberz
    @bubberz 24 дні тому +2

    Those recent developments seem like a move by both OpenAI and Scarlett's team to negotiate a better price for her voice.

  • @Hlbkomer
    @Hlbkomer 25 днів тому +8

    All the other voices suck.

  • @calvingrondahl1011
    @calvingrondahl1011 24 дні тому +2

    Voices can be plotted on a graph and compared like finger prints. You have to make your case using math not emotions in the court room.

  • @ES-1984
    @ES-1984 25 днів тому +2

    I'm looking forward to using an AI that sounds like Majel Barrett as the computer in Star Trek.

  • @veritasvincit5347
    @veritasvincit5347 24 дні тому +3

    The best case that SJ can make is that Sky voice sounds "vaguely similar" to her performance in Her. Nothing else. No case here, just drama.

  • @keithprice3369
    @keithprice3369 25 днів тому +2

    To me, this would be rather similar to a movie producer wanting to use an AI clone of Robin William's likeness. For this example, let's assume they wanted ONLY the likeness and not the voice pattern. Let's say the William's estate declined.
    So, the producer finds an actor with a striking visual similarity to Robin Williams.
    That doesn't seem illegal or even shady.

  • @Ben_D.
    @Ben_D. 25 днів тому +3

    It was not her voice. Sam could easily prove who was actually sampled, and I think he should have done it.

    • @marki2325
      @marki2325 24 дні тому

      Maybe he still will

  • @XetXetable
    @XetXetable 24 дні тому +1

    Sam was not talking about the voice. The Sky voice was released months before the tweet. When Johanson calls "Sky" the "newest system", she's just wrong. It's one of several voice modules that has been available via the Open AI app for several months. That voice was used during the GPT-4o demo (along with several other voices), but it was not new. The live interactivity of the demo is what Sam was talking about when he tweeted "her", as that demo was less than a week old then.

  • @zerodefcts
    @zerodefcts 25 днів тому

    I wonder about the NPU. Will it perform well without high-speed memory? Will it be generalized enough to run whatever new llm architectures come out in the following years? Will it be widely available?

  • @DJVARAO
    @DJVARAO 25 днів тому +2

    They went for the best voice closer to SJ. But is not her.

  • @mito._
    @mito._ 25 днів тому +1

    Great work by the actress hired to voice Sky! 😊

  • @mistervanderveer
    @mistervanderveer 24 дні тому +3

    they dont sound the same at all to the trained (or untrained) ear. what a ridiculous mass psychosis.

  • @h-e-acc
    @h-e-acc 25 днів тому +2

    They are not the same voice

  • @samlongman1831
    @samlongman1831 24 дні тому

    Please can someone help me... I can't find an answer anywhere... I'm in the UK using android chatgpt 4o and have a premium account. I can't seem to real-timeme conversion or real-time visual input like in the recent demos. Is this ability only available to some? All I can do is voice input, and it reads back the response. This isn't the same as the demos. It's still really just a text conversion. Thank you in advance. It's driving me nuts trying to find an answer to this!

    • @freke80
      @freke80 23 дні тому

      It's not out yet. As far as I know. At least not in the way they showed in the demos

  • @zalzalahbuttsaab
    @zalzalahbuttsaab 14 днів тому

    I checked with Microsoft CoPilot and the Sky voice existed before Scarlett ever made her statement but OpenAI decided to pause the voice due to the consternation it had caused. Regardless of privacy, if subpoenaed, the relevant voice actor would be required to attend court. Guess what I'd finally say is that there must be more than one person in the world that sounds like Scarlett besides herself and that if she is serious, take it to court and let the voice actor that OpenAI asserts provided her voice come forward on the witness stand.

  • @JoePiotti
    @JoePiotti 24 дні тому +1

    SJ was offered the role and turned it down. What did she think they would do? If Julia Robert’s turns down a role Sandra Bullock is allowed to take it.

  • @SEPR2
    @SEPR2 25 днів тому +1

    The issue is that everything OAI says could be true, and it would still be considered impersonation of likeness legally because of the circumstances of how things went down. If they hadn't reached out to ScarJo first and if they hadn't tweeted 'her,' this wouldn't be happening.

  • @AltMarc
    @AltMarc 25 днів тому +2

    Different voices, I can clearly hear a raspy tone, probably from her smoking past.
    Another question: Voices change with age and other factors, how can anybody, with these conditions, claim that's a copycat?
    I'm pretty sure that a voice security algorithm can discern both voices easily.

  • @dreamphoenix
    @dreamphoenix 24 дні тому

    Great coverage of this issue. Thank you.

  • @sanderhoogeland9161
    @sanderhoogeland9161 25 днів тому +1

    I can kind of see why people think the voices sound similar, but having heard Johanson’s voice a few times now, I wouldn’t recognize Sky as her voice outside of a direct comparison. I also haven’t watched Her, yet, though.

  • @eubique
    @eubique 24 дні тому +1

    My reaction to the demo was definitley wait, did they get SJ to voice this and if so why no mention? It's literally uncanny in the uncanny valley sense that it's close enough for doubt. An A/B comparison of clips isn't how we evaluate voices in real life, you could do that with your closest friends recorded in different contexts at different ages and hear differences. In any case they obviously intended to borrow the affect of her voice as used in that movie, for publicity if not to actually go ahead and use as a live product. Which is funny because as much as i can enjoy the qualities of her vouce i thiught it was incongruous as an AI voice in the context of the movie.

  • @kabukibear
    @kabukibear 24 дні тому

    They are different, but there are specific similarities that I, and at least everyone I've shown the voice model to, has had Scarlett Johansson as the first person we immediately think of it sounding like. They both have a very characteristic vocal fry near the ends of sentences and in the lower register and their specific timbres are very similar. I would also say, the fact that they took Sky down says a lot, when pressured to explain what exactly the voice model was trained on to sound like that. Sky was, by far, my favorite voice on there, so I'm bummed out, but if OpenAI approached you to use your voice for a chat model, you said no, and suddenly you hear a 97% similar voice used anyway, you might be annoyed too. Still, I was hoping to have SJ whispering sweet nothings in my ear all day, so this is a sad day indeed.

  • @muzaldraws
    @muzaldraws 23 дні тому

    The Microsoft game voice there sounds more like bagley the AI "watchdogs legion" in my opinion, so are they going to be on them too?

  • @TheMrCougarful
    @TheMrCougarful 25 днів тому +1

    When Apple had the same problem with the Beatles, they renamed their alert sound Sosueme.

  • @seanivore
    @seanivore 23 дні тому

    Originality has never existed and we're only now starting to see how true that is.

  • @TheMemeRepository
    @TheMemeRepository 24 дні тому +1

    Definitely sounds like a knock-on effect from the power of suggestion.
    Her friends & family told her that this AI voice sounds like her, she listened to it with that in mind, and because we artists aren't the best at emotional regulation, her brain ran away with that narrative, ironically, harming another actress in the process (potentially, depending on the contract).
    To me, I didn't even think they sounded remotely similar until someone pointed it out, and even then, the best I can give it is they share a similar vibe. They're within the same type, maybe? But Sky isn't the only voice available is the thing, and they're only going to add more voices over time. You need a lot of different voices to cover the vast range of tones that people may desire from a personal assistant, so it's only natural that a voice in Scarlett's range was going to be sampled at some point.
    But like I said, the power of suggestion is strong, especially when it pairs with a pre-existing bias. There's a lot of resistance against AI right now, so when people see the headline "ChatGPT stole celebrity's voice" people are naturally going to pounce on that without probing, and when others present them with the facts as we know them, they will sink deeper into emotional reasoning to justify their initial presumption, which can be seen with statements like "It's so obvious, they even asked her again right before announcement" as if that's some smoking gun, rather than a vague event we don't have all the details for.
    But yeah, I don't really blame people for acting irrationally while everything is emotionally charged, and I think it's important to discuss why people tend to act this way, but it's also frustrating when, from my perspective, this is such a nothing burger in the scheme of all the Open AI drama.

  • @Vartazian360
    @Vartazian360 24 дні тому +1

    The ai voice sounds like a mix between a few, but its DEFINITELY not the same. Maybe like Scarlett Johanson and Jennifer Lawrence merged together. 😂

  • @blackmartini7684
    @blackmartini7684 25 днів тому +4

    Listen to the voice back to back with Scarlett then go listen to Rashida Jones and tell me which one sounds closer

    • @SU3D3
      @SU3D3 25 днів тому

      😂

    • @tubekrake
      @tubekrake 24 дні тому +1

      Rashida Jones should sue too. If she isn't the secret actress. Would be funny if 20 Actress would sue.

  • @DesertCharleyVideos
    @DesertCharleyVideos 24 дні тому

    Subscribed... by the way, I want OpenAI to hire Wes for his voice. :)

  • @grax4131
    @grax4131 24 дні тому

    they have removed the SKY voice and replaced it with the Juniper voice. If you go to the voice settings the Sky Demo is still there but if you choose it it goes right back to Juniper

  • @qwertyzxaszc6323
    @qwertyzxaszc6323 25 днів тому +3

    Similar, not the same

  • @schmidtzter
    @schmidtzter 24 дні тому +1

    Sam wanted a voice like Scarletts. He asked her. She says no. He finds a similar voice. Shocking

    • @DevPythonUnity
      @DevPythonUnity 24 дні тому

      if the data was obtained liggaly with licencce, for model trainning, JS, can go to hell,,, there is over 7 bilion people on the planet with individual vocies, and Her vocie must be protected? NOPE

  • @MrRandomPlays_1987
    @MrRandomPlays_1987 24 дні тому +1

    3:49 - To me it doesn't sound like Scarlett johanson's voice, not at all, maybe they are kinda similar but not identical

  • @Serahpin
    @Serahpin 24 дні тому

    If I get a professional voice impressionist and and contract them to do a ScarJo voice, there's nothing they can do to legally stop me.

  • @Thedeepseanomad
    @Thedeepseanomad 24 дні тому

    Proper attribution (even when a Product or work is free/ non commercial) and clear rules when it comes to IP rights is what we really need.

  • @deandrealexander6172
    @deandrealexander6172 23 дні тому

    I have never felt such Animosity towards something or anything before i was very excited for this feature

  • @mwdiers
    @mwdiers 23 дні тому

    Yes, it’s a different voice. It’s actually Juniper. If you going to settings, the sample for Sky is still the old voice, which is clearly meant to sound like Johannsen regardless of who the actual voice actor was. Now if you choose Sky you will get Juniper instead.

  • @senju2024
    @senju2024 24 дні тому

    Hey WES, is there a way for me to use your voice for my AI assistance? I love your voice and want it as my personal AI.

  • @centerdepenter
    @centerdepenter 24 дні тому

    When letting Sky speak in Dutch she sounds exactly like Eva Jinek including the accent. Eva Jinek is a Dutch talkshow host with American roots.

  • @DihelsonMendonca
    @DihelsonMendonca 24 дні тому

    💥 Complete different voices ! And I watched the movie several times. 🎉❤

  • @TechRenamed
    @TechRenamed 24 дні тому +3

    Stop sam altman didnt do anything the voices dont even sound the same to begin with 🙄🙄🙄

  • @billtanno8960
    @billtanno8960 25 днів тому +1

    Doesn't sound anything alike.. I can still use her on my app. She's been my default all along

  • @glamdrag
    @glamdrag 24 дні тому

    I never made the connection between the voices, and how when paying close attention to it, they clearly don't sound at all like the same person to me.

  • @ericstromquist9458
    @ericstromquist9458 25 днів тому +1

    The voices don't seem that similar to me: a standard unaccented (for the US) youngish female voice.

  • @yw1971
    @yw1971 23 дні тому

    The director of 'Her' should've bought ScarJo voice himself. If only he knew

  • @dannii_L
    @dannii_L 24 дні тому +1

    I feel sorry for the actress voicing Sky. I'm sorry SJo, but you can't create exclusive copyright for the voice qualities of Sexy and Husky.
    It's obvious that SJo's voice had certain qualities that they wanted to capture with Sky but that doesn't make those qualities unique. This is literally how every actor is chosen for every role: according to some set of characteristics that fulfill the producer or director's vision. IMO Sky shares certain basic qualities with SJo's voice but it doesn't sound like an imitation or even that similar. Given that they already had an actress who did a wonderful job with Sky's voice, my guess at the reason Sam was still trying to get SJo 2 days before release was for the optics of the situation. He probably knew that this could become an issue (which it did) and also the announcement of "you can literally have SJo and the voice of Samantha" is a pretty neat drawcard if you could get it.

  • @SeedyJohnson
    @SeedyJohnson 23 дні тому

    Why would they remove the voice if everything was on the up and up? They would legally be in the right. Seems to me that there may have been something in the process to get the voice closer to Scarlett's, even if they did use another person. After all, that is not really the voice actor's voice. It's a simulation of that actor's voice, which is further modified after the fact. I mean, they don't have her voice recorded for every potential response, do they? That requires some audio modification. Maybe while they were at it, they said, let's tweak it just a bit closer to Scarlett.
    It does sound like her. It has the same grammatical pauses she uses, and that same quasi-raspy sound that Scarlett has in her voice when she finishes a sentence.

  • @adada1st
    @adada1st 15 днів тому

    I’m joining this discussion a bit late, but anyway: Basically, I wonder what the situation is with voice actors? Here in Germany, it’s an important and large market. For example, we booked the "Tom Selleck" voice (Norbert Langer) for an advertisement - his voice is different, if not better than Tom Selleck’s original voice, yet it is associated with the actor. This was and is consciously used, and Norbert Langer was often booked in commercials or documentaries because of his distinctiveness and closeness to "Magnum". What if OpenAI had booked the voice actors from each country - in this case, Luise Helm (German voice actress for SJ, Lauren Ambrose, Megan Fox, etc.)? Just a thought...

  • @dogecoinx3093
    @dogecoinx3093 24 дні тому

    the voice actress did a better impression of the her movie than the original

  • @bobcollard11
    @bobcollard11 24 дні тому

    Someone could take a voice print of each, Sky and Scarlett and compare them. Similar voices should be an exact science, even for an AI.

  • @singhashon
    @singhashon 24 дні тому +1

    Voices are similar . But not the same

  • @therealzahyra
    @therealzahyra 24 дні тому

    I think this is a blue/gold dress type of case. Where depending on your ears' sound interpretation, you will hear the same voice or totally different

  • @clearscreations
    @clearscreations 24 дні тому

    "pretty well" - "Pretty WEll" - PrettiWEll" very similar on the WELL. That is a cheek inflection (the corners of the lips.Happens over a lifetime). That is hard to accurately "generate" but not impossible. Highly possible the actors for the voices, knows that there is a higher likely hood that "If i sound like someone soft and popular, I will get paid for my voice to train it" (Ai). I for one LOVE Scarlett, LOVED HER the movie, and LOVE Ai. If i could emulate her and pay her directly for it, I WOULD!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sad I can not have what will be known as HER/SKY OG, but I hope she reopens her position on her voice. She is the perfect Ai Voice before real Ai voices. So, we would appreciate keeping it consistent. Even if it TERMINATORS us, I want it to be SCARLET. (fan boying but, i digress)

  • @debram8829
    @debram8829 23 дні тому

    So similar - no wonder she is taking action...its the underlying accent, timbre and huskiness SJ has that makes the Sky voice so like SJ

  • @BorSam
    @BorSam 24 дні тому

    They sound so different; why claim it was her voice?

  • @goranACD
    @goranACD 24 дні тому +2

    Why is everyone thinking "her" means Scarlett? It means operating system from the movie ffs! Not everything is about you, a shocking discovery indeed.

    • @marki2325
      @marki2325 24 дні тому +1

      Exactly my thoughts.

  • @vicktorknight8107
    @vicktorknight8107 24 дні тому +1

    So, the media frenzy over Sky's voice being a Scarlett Johansson clone? Yeah, not buying it. Sure, it gives off some "Her" vibes, but let's be real-it's not a carbon copy of Scarlett's dulcet tones. Now we're stuck with just one female voice option, Juniper. Congrats to OpenAI for all that free high-profile media attention!
    Here's a wild idea: why not tweak Sky's pitch and modulation? Keep paying the voice actress what she deserves and let us enjoy that smooth, "reads good" feeling. Everybody wins! Just a thought. And to the voice actress behind Sky: thanks for making my mornings brighter with your coffee-compatible information breakdowns.☕🌇

  • @duran9664
    @duran9664 25 днів тому +4

    🤦‍♀️Seriously🤦‍♀️
    Everyone knows why❕
    Sam definitely has a huge crush on Scarlet 🤷‍♀️
    Who doesn’t 😒

    • @6AxisSage
      @6AxisSage 25 днів тому +1

      Shes often in top ten most desirable women lists

    • @sparkofcuriousity
      @sparkofcuriousity 24 дні тому

      Sam Altman is gay... As in attracted to men. I think he probably doesn't have a crush for Scarlett Johansson.
      He might however really like the movie "Her" and it's also a smart thing from a business perspective to get people on OpenAI platforms.

  • @bmatt2626
    @bmatt2626 24 дні тому

    I'm sure there are forensic methods to clear OpenAI if it came to court, but they probably need time to prove it internally.

  • @AscendantStoic
    @AscendantStoic 24 дні тому

    They are similar voices but not identical 100%, I'm pretty sure there are ways to check similarity of voices in a more objective way than just hearing them back to back.

  • @leslieviljoen
    @leslieviljoen 23 дні тому

    These are different voices but perhaps Scarlett thought they might have trained it on her voice. That's a reasonable assumption. Perhaps OpenAI will get permission to reveal the other actor's identity - I can only imagine it would be good for her to get the recognition.

  • @superstippi
    @superstippi 24 дні тому

    WTF, I was scared they canceled the complete voice mode, not just disabled that one voice!

  • @DrRussell
    @DrRussell 24 дні тому

    They may have altered certain frequencies, but the prosody, cadence, inflections match. Whether S.J. has a right to that though is a really important question which we would all want answering if it was our likeness being duplicated at the risk of our earnings.