I rode with Tony on a plane quite by chance 1982ish before I became a fan years later - I told him I played guitar and trumpet - Tony told me keep up with your horn, don't let that go. He said he tried to learn the sax but it was too much later in life. He also loved coltrane and modern jazz which is obvious. The really cool thing he saw me at the break at one of his concerts and remembered me? It took me a while to put together that I had roade on an airplane with him before I became a die hard fan? I saw tony at the Ark with Mike Marshall and Darol Angor in the early 2000s. I have just so many fond memories to go along with his music.
As one Mike's current Artistworks students, I definitly feel waaaaay too lucky and privileged. Thanks Marcel and Mike (and Hayes who lives in my town). Hugs to all.
As an obsessive DGQ/TR fanatic I can't fully articulate how much I appreciate this interview. Been following MM for years but haven't heard an interview this in depth before, even learned some Tony info I hadn't previously heard. Fantastic questions and very informative as always. Cheers Marcel
What an amazing interview! I love the part about Shenandoah. I myself spent some time trying to learn parts of it, but realized that every recording was different. It was all him. No tab could capture the essence of the song, and no one could play it like Tony. One of the greatest guitarists ever.
Great interview Marcel, I, for one, appreciate the reverence granted to Shenedoah. So far, being new to bluegrass, I've only heard it once. He said he would start out noodling in A minor. I was just blown away by the tastiness of it all. Mike is a great guest, I love your channel, keep it up!
Love your channel! The Grissman Quintet introduced a whole new arena of expertise in the 70s. Garcia and Grissman opened into a mini festival of delightful creativity! Thanks for rekindling a route gone cold!
Very nice interview. Good memories. Amazing to consider how bluegrass evolved back in the old days. It's been a long time - Life is an improvisation ~ Hope things go well - take care.
Mike Marshall is such a great articulator of blue/new grass/acoustic music. A super-smart dude and a natural musician. He's also quite well rounded and worldly... Just ask him about "Moby Dick" or Schoenberg. Great interview!
Mike Marshall also played on one of my favorite David Grisman records “Stephane Grappelli/David Grisman Live”. They played great versions of Sweet Georgia Brown and Shine and other tunes that really influenced my playing as I was studying guitar at USC in the early 80’s. Mark O’Connor was playing guitar on that record but the solos and the groove by all were fantastic. It’s worth checking that album out, it was recorded in 1979 and released in 1981. Great interview.
Wonderful video Marcel! I've been studying with Mike for 6.5 years or so on ArtistWorks and can't recommend it enough to players at any level. Would love a full video of Old Grey Coat!
man I'd love to hear some in depth discussion like this about Jerry Garcia's parlays into bluegrass. as a huge Dead fan, Jerry's bluegrass inspirations are 100% integral to his playing style
TL;DR: Marcel made that Let me introduce you to the magic that is LoFi Tony Rice Beats: ua-cam.com/video/oWnLSIcPaik/v-deo.html Also check out vol's 2 & 3 and the session breakdown for some behind the scenes insight: ua-cam.com/video/RMuU4ggtEd0/v-deo.html
The intro edits Marcel does might be his best contribution to the genre. I want him to be given full freedom to to all the intros to the IBMA awards show, with no one telling him what to do, it would be amazing
Before I started with guitar, I was obsessed with Rubik’s cubes. Never got very fast, just enjoyed collecting and learning to solve all the different kinds of puzzles I could. Funny how that and music is connected so often 😂
Got to see Grisman play with del mcoury in the masters of bluegrass at Rhythm and Roots in Bristol Va/TN. I got to meet Grisman and he autographed my Phish meatstick shirt. He signed it Dawg! He was super nice!
When Mike Marshall asked the question whatever happened to walking bass in Bluegrass. I totally get it. Bill Monroe had it going many times, I agree. Especially with some of the Western Swing influence that Chubby Wise brought. The only answer I can come up with is that bands like III Thyme Out and The Lonesome River Band developed such a good and tight ensemble sound, and held true to the high lonesome concept, which really didn’t work as well with a walking base. Instead, a root/five bass was a better fit. Take Tony Rice’s Bluegrass Album Band venture as another example of very little walking bass.. Heck, it’s all good when the band is together. Have a listen to Footprints In The Snow by Bill Monroe and His Bluegrass Boys on some good monitors. Man, that upright bass climbs a mountain in a blizzard!
Thanks so much for this awesome interview, Marcel and team! Wonderful to hear Mike playing on “Old Gray Coat” here, love this new version! Here’s my and my band; The New Acoustic Collective’s version featuring Wyatt Rice of “Old Gray Coat” I hope you all enjoy! Link: ua-cam.com/video/3XmVyrKLwFw/v-deo.htmlsi=TEAU3ct_jYlIwYcd Also cool to hear and have John Carlini mentioned throughout. He’s a dear mentor of mine and his breadth of knowledge and music can’t be understated!
The Banjo Ben comment seems a little unfair. Sure, there’s a lot of tab in his lessons. Everybody has to start somewhere. However Ben teaches that eventually you have to break free of the tab. I’ve been going to his Cabin Camps for a couple of years. He focuses a lot on ear training and improvisation and leaving tab behind. The camps culminate in a required stage performance where each camper has to improvise their own break. I’ve seen people who were playing for just one week get on that stage and play an improvised break. Ben is a classically trained pianist and a brilliant musician as well as a gifted teacher.
Ben and I are buds. My statement isn't a criticism of Ben, I'm just relating the fact that folks aren't learning the tunes from their communities, or by ear from records anymore. They're learning them from a small number of sources online and no matter how much teachers like Ben or myself encourage folks to improvise we are influencing the way people play tunes. It's just an unfortunate consequence of making the music academic. If you establish a right way and a wrong way. You unintentionally destroy some variety in the music. That's how it goes.
It’s not OCD, the term I’ve seen is AuDHD -mashup of autism (spectrum) and ADHD. There is a significant comorbidity between them. It’s all the obsessive deep dive into minutiae fun of autism’s “Special Interests”, but on the roulette wheel of ADHD’s rapidly changing interests dopamine seeking behavior. And lets face it - a LOT of musicians fall into one or both of those behavior patterns even if it doesn’t hit diagnosably problematic levels. *I’m not a doc, I just resemble this remark. Getting diagnosed w ADHD at 35 was a game changer for me. I’m better able to work with my brain’s wiring, rather than against it
I wish more people were in the Tony/Mike school of playing with your ear more than anything and riding the muse/magic or whatever you like to call it. Like Mike said, this is why bluegrass all sounds the same right now. And yeah, what happened to the walking bass lines. Every time I go to a bluegrass jam I’m like , Jesus am I the only one who makes up my own lines ?lol this is why I play jazz mostly now lol
I rode with Tony on a plane quite by chance 1982ish before I became a fan years later - I told him I played guitar and trumpet - Tony told me keep up with your horn, don't let that go. He said he tried to learn the sax but it was too much later in life. He also loved coltrane and modern jazz which is obvious. The really cool thing he saw me at the break at one of his concerts and remembered me? It took me a while to put together that I had roade on an airplane with him before I became a die hard fan? I saw tony at the Ark with Mike Marshall and Darol Angor in the early 2000s. I have just so many fond memories to go along with his music.
Saw Tony Rice several times with Grisman c.'76 in Santa Cruz. Inimitable band. Shared a joint backstage at Catalyst. Unforgettable.
As one Mike's current Artistworks students, I definitly feel waaaaay too lucky and privileged. Thanks Marcel and Mike (and Hayes who lives in my town). Hugs to all.
These guys are my heroes, and it’s such a privilege to hear them interviewed and talking about those times that means so much to me.
As an obsessive DGQ/TR fanatic I can't fully articulate how much I appreciate this interview. Been following MM for years but haven't heard an interview this in depth before, even learned some Tony info I hadn't previously heard. Fantastic questions and very informative as always. Cheers Marcel
Man your content is under viewed, Marcel. It's so clear that you put a lot of heart into this!
What an amazing interview! I love the part about Shenandoah. I myself spent some time trying to learn parts of it, but realized that every recording was different. It was all him. No tab could capture the essence of the song, and no one could play it like Tony. One of the greatest guitarists ever.
Words cannot describe how much I loved the early Grisman albums and how much influence they had on my guitar playing.
Great to see Mike Marshall. Huge talent. How heady were the days of acoustic string jazz and Dawg music. So much brilliant new ground was broken.
The Grisman sound and all its variants and progeny- That is where I want my music to be.
Such creativity mixed with virtuosity.
This is one of the greatest things out there about this era of musical magic. Thank you Marcel and Mike for shining a new light on this period.
Great interview Marcel, I, for one, appreciate the reverence granted to Shenedoah. So far, being new to bluegrass, I've only heard it once. He said he would start out noodling in A minor. I was just blown away by the tastiness of it all. Mike is a great guest, I love your channel, keep it up!
Love your channel! The Grissman Quintet introduced a whole new arena of expertise in the 70s. Garcia and Grissman opened into a mini festival of delightful creativity! Thanks for rekindling a route gone cold!
Awww this was so great, Marcel! And really nice production quality too! Hope to see some of these full length videos of Mike and and Hayes picking!
Two legends!
Very nice interview. Good memories. Amazing to consider how bluegrass evolved back in the old days. It's been a long time -
Life is an improvisation ~
Hope things go well - take care.
Beautiful interview fellas. Thank you so much ❤
Mike Marshall is such a great articulator of blue/new grass/acoustic music. A super-smart dude and a natural musician. He's also quite well rounded and worldly... Just ask him about "Moby Dick" or Schoenberg. Great interview!
great interview. I've seen Mike play twice, and those were two of the absolute best shows i've ever seen. absolute legend.
You channel is amazing marcel keep up the good work.
I love the idea of improvising with 'landing notes'. That is incredibly freeing!
Man, I learn so much from these interviews. They are so, so helpful and interesting.
Mike Marshall also played on one of my favorite David Grisman records “Stephane Grappelli/David Grisman Live”. They played great versions of Sweet Georgia Brown and Shine and other tunes that really influenced my playing as I was studying guitar at USC in the early 80’s. Mark O’Connor was playing guitar on that record but the solos and the groove by all were fantastic. It’s worth checking that album out, it was recorded in 1979 and released in 1981. Great interview.
That was a wonderful interview. Well done Marcel.
Omg “ why did someone write their phone # after the G “. So fucking funny
Wonderful video Marcel! I've been studying with Mike for 6.5 years or so on ArtistWorks and can't recommend it enough to players at any level. Would love a full video of Old Grey Coat!
Really great report. Thanks much for putting this together.
Great interview with lots of thoughtful questions. Thanks.
man I'd love to hear some in depth discussion like this about Jerry Garcia's parlays into bluegrass. as a huge Dead fan, Jerry's bluegrass inspirations are 100% integral to his playing style
What a fabulous interview. Can't wait to hear Mike Marshall and Darol Anger at Shalin Liu in February. And Marcel, thank you for doing this interview.
So step #1 Move in with Tony Rice... 🤣😂 Awesome interview, interesting history and insight into genius.
Fabulous interview and video ! This is an incredible experience !
Thanks Marcel !!
I’m so glad to find this. I watched it start to finish. Thank you.
I'm not sure who Marcel's editor is... But man that first bit and groove that was created. That was genius!
TL;DR: Marcel made that
Let me introduce you to the magic that is LoFi Tony Rice Beats: ua-cam.com/video/oWnLSIcPaik/v-deo.html
Also check out vol's 2 & 3 and the session breakdown for some behind the scenes insight: ua-cam.com/video/RMuU4ggtEd0/v-deo.html
@@loco.joe.goldfinger Man, if I didn't know it already, the man has mad skills!!
@@loco.joe.goldfinger thanks for this. I'll check it out!
The intro edits Marcel does might be his best contribution to the genre. I want him to be given full freedom to to all the intros to the IBMA awards show, with no one telling him what to do, it would be amazing
Before I started with guitar, I was obsessed with Rubik’s cubes. Never got very fast, just enjoyed collecting and learning to solve all the different kinds of puzzles I could. Funny how that and music is connected so often 😂
Thanks so much for this. Gotta learn about the history of the Legends to become a Legend 🔥🔥🔥
Great job Marcel.
Got to see Grisman play with del mcoury in the masters of bluegrass at Rhythm and Roots in Bristol Va/TN. I got to meet Grisman and he autographed my Phish meatstick shirt. He signed it Dawg! He was super nice!
Thank you very much for this beautiful interview! The idea of target notes and how to get there is very inspiring to me 👍🏻😊
Such an awesome conversation!
Great interview Marcel!
Wonderful interview once again Marcel! So informational!
Very interesting and thought provoking. Especially for someone trying to learn some improvisation.
Great interview, thanks!
Also saw the Tiny Rice Unit twice there and got to see Tony Rice at Bristol Paramount! Good times.
Tiny Rice and Steamed Vegetables....now that was a combo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤣
Marcel - nice work.
Great interview!
Wish we still had the Tuesday transcribing/Oregon Trail live streams...great video btw
hello from Joe Nania
When Mike Marshall asked the question whatever happened to walking bass in Bluegrass. I totally get it. Bill Monroe had it going many times, I agree. Especially with some of the Western Swing influence that Chubby Wise brought.
The only answer I can come up with is that bands like III Thyme Out and The Lonesome River Band developed such a good and tight ensemble sound, and held true to the high lonesome concept, which really didn’t work as well with a walking base. Instead, a root/five bass was a better fit. Take Tony Rice’s Bluegrass Album Band venture as another example of very little walking bass..
Heck, it’s all good when the band is together.
Have a listen to Footprints In The Snow by Bill Monroe and His Bluegrass Boys on some good monitors. Man, that upright bass climbs a mountain in a blizzard!
Thanks so much for this awesome interview, Marcel and team!
Wonderful to hear Mike playing on “Old Gray Coat” here, love this new version!
Here’s my and my band; The New Acoustic Collective’s version featuring Wyatt Rice of “Old Gray Coat” I hope you all enjoy!
Link: ua-cam.com/video/3XmVyrKLwFw/v-deo.htmlsi=TEAU3ct_jYlIwYcd
Also cool to hear and have John Carlini mentioned throughout. He’s a dear mentor of mine and his breadth of knowledge and music can’t be understated!
I play with a mando guy said he couldn't stand the mando orchestra because of the shrill tremelo picking driving him crazy.
Mike is amazing..........
I need the dub step remix bluegrass on spotify asap please🥺
Great video. Critically underrated in my opinion. What is the song playing at 6:40!?
I were wish there more BG concerts close to me.
The Banjo Ben comment seems a little unfair. Sure, there’s a lot of tab in his lessons. Everybody has to start somewhere. However Ben teaches that eventually you have to break free of the tab. I’ve been going to his Cabin Camps for a couple of years. He focuses a lot on ear training and improvisation and leaving tab behind. The camps culminate in a required stage performance where each camper has to improvise their own break. I’ve seen people who were playing for just one week get on that stage and play an improvised break. Ben is a classically trained pianist and a brilliant musician as well as a gifted teacher.
Ben and I are buds. My statement isn't a criticism of Ben, I'm just relating the fact that folks aren't learning the tunes from their communities, or by ear from records anymore. They're learning them from a small number of sources online and no matter how much teachers like Ben or myself encourage folks to improvise we are influencing the way people play tunes.
It's just an unfortunate consequence of making the music academic. If you establish a right way and a wrong way. You unintentionally destroy some variety in the music. That's how it goes.
It’s not OCD, the term I’ve seen is AuDHD -mashup of autism (spectrum) and ADHD. There is a significant comorbidity between them. It’s all the obsessive deep dive into minutiae fun of autism’s “Special Interests”, but on the roulette wheel of ADHD’s rapidly changing interests dopamine seeking behavior. And lets face it - a LOT of musicians fall into one or both of those behavior patterns even if it doesn’t hit diagnosably problematic levels.
*I’m not a doc, I just resemble this remark. Getting diagnosed w ADHD at 35 was a game changer for me. I’m better able to work with my brain’s wiring, rather than against it
hey man, you wanna talk about Jeff Austin? PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is it freezing at the start
😮
Stash has some great stuff about bare bones fiddle tune melodies
A minor 3rd or H major 8th. It's all the same to me.
Maybe when you only learn licks from tab, you’re using too much of your left brain & not enough of your right brain?
Cool and profound interview! ...Also, is that version of you guys playing Old Grey Coat posted somewhere? That's sick!
I wish more people were in the Tony/Mike school of playing with your ear more than anything and riding the muse/magic or whatever you like to call it. Like Mike said, this is why bluegrass all sounds the same right now. And yeah, what happened to the walking bass lines. Every time I go to a bluegrass jam I’m like , Jesus am I the only one who makes up my own lines ?lol this is why I play jazz mostly now lol
nice, not a lazy short
Amazing interview!!!