My Bleeding Edge Tech Stack for 2025

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  • @rubennijhuis
    @rubennijhuis Рік тому +2733

    This guy is able to to 30 people's worth of work. Teach us how you plan and work on your projects! Anything from to-do lists till deployment would be amazing

    • @user-cm1mu6ce9y
      @user-cm1mu6ce9y Рік тому +62

      maybe he is using gpt 3

    • @sumitpurohit8849
      @sumitpurohit8849 Рік тому +118

      Also while managing fortran and his wife

    • @friendofzeus
      @friendofzeus Рік тому +76

      His stack is severely constrained by the limitations and costs of the managed service providers that he's using. 99% of the time what ends up happening in the medium to long term is that developers will have to be onboarded to implement optimizations and solutions that aren't possible/feasible in this current stack. Take algolia for instance, it could work in the prototyping phase but once the ball gets rolling and you have continuous activity on the site costs will soar and you'll be contacting elasticsearch developers to rewrite your search functionality. These managed services aren't just costly but they actively limit the kind of functionality you can develop and ship out.
      Sure this adds complexity and is a time sink. But so does rewriting vast stretches of your software/solution a few months after shipping the solution. These managed service providers are not a good idea for anyone thinking seriously about building software.

    • @DamianRou
      @DamianRou Рік тому +19

      He simply do everything with FKIT.

    • @danielchettiar5670
      @danielchettiar5670 Рік тому +2

      @@friendofzeus AWS isn't good enough? Netflix says hello

  • @boiimcfacto2364
    @boiimcfacto2364 Рік тому +2899

    Here's an idea: you should make a kind of devlog while rebuilding your site. Not only will it be easier considering you can record while actually working, but it'll be a fantastic Svelte tutorial as well.
    Congratulations on your baby, love your content!

    • @Kunal70006
      @Kunal70006 Рік тому +58

      Hard agree, a devlog which documents the entire thing is gonna be awesome

    • @h.hristov
      @h.hristov Рік тому +9

      A mini series of that would be great

    • @CarlosWong54
      @CarlosWong54 Рік тому +3

      This right here! 🔥

    • @universecode1101
      @universecode1101 Рік тому +2

      it could be amazing

    • @mathiasriedel6228
      @mathiasriedel6228 Рік тому

      Yes! I would love to see that!

  • @pointcut
    @pointcut Рік тому +755

    01:31 #1 - UI Library (Svelte)
    02:44 #2 - Meta Framework (SvelteKit)
    04:34 #3 - TypeScript (Yes)
    04:38 #4 - Dealing with CSS (Tailwind)
    05:55 #5 - Backend Infrastructure (Firebase)
    06:53 #6 - Database (Cloud Firestore?)
    07:28 #7 - Testing (Cypress)
    07:52 #8 - Other APIs (SendGrid, Algolia, Stripe/PayPal)

    • @stentechy3346
      @stentechy3346 Рік тому +46

      @@TylerTheDestroyer coming to his comment and clicking the timestamp is way easier than dragging the video bar

    • @sqfzerzefsdf
      @sqfzerzefsdf Рік тому +14

      @@TylerTheDestroyer there are tons of opinions on all of these a short list like this can help me decide if I wanna hear it or not

    • @stentechy3346
      @stentechy3346 Рік тому +15

      @@TylerTheDestroyer Lol you're funny man. idk what u mean by 'Netflix woke'. But I will def utilise any tool to make my life easier.
      UA-camrs that attach timelines to there videos don't want progress/support there own channel???????? what are you saying man.
      Also I'm a long time suscriber of fireship(which is irrelevant to this argument), don't why you brought that up.
      Also yh, 10min is a long time(why do you think fireship makes 100seconds videos???).. I may not have 10min but I still want to watch something from the video.

    • @sqfzerzefsdf
      @sqfzerzefsdf Рік тому +3

      @@TylerTheDestroyer say I have 1hr, I can either commit to 6 10 minute videos or pick the ones that I think are more likely to have something I actually would want to hear more about. from my perspective my judgement is better than random odds to run into "something that can change your world".
      And also a lot of this filtering makes it so I don't waste time on something I know I don't wanna know more about or on something I already know about

    • @ayanwdev
      @ayanwdev Рік тому +5

      @@TylerTheDestroyer typical 14 years old

  • @andresramos7965
    @andresramos7965 Рік тому +40

    There is a reason for why I'm a backend dev, and that reason has a proper name: Cascading Style Sheets

    • @jan0195
      @jan0195 Рік тому +1

      Literally the only reason I barely touch frond-end. And the few situations when I have to work in the front-end I rely heavily on css frameworks.

    • @juststudying1019
      @juststudying1019 Рік тому

      I hate css so much 🤮

    • @martiananomaly
      @martiananomaly Рік тому +1

      All my homies hate CSS. God bless tailwindcss.

    • @aeinarrkrigsson
      @aeinarrkrigsson 6 місяців тому

      Lol that's the exact reason I love frontend

    • @rohankumarpanigrahi7475
      @rohankumarpanigrahi7475 6 місяців тому

      Tailwind and bootstrap to the rescue.
      And flutter is always there if you absolutely hate css and can live with almost no search engine optimisation.

  • @supercontroler8284
    @supercontroler8284 Рік тому +449

    This is easily the best guide I've seen. Also, congratulations on the baby!

    • @Fireship
      @Fireship  Рік тому +85

      Thank you!

    • @ron0studios
      @ron0studios Рік тому +36

      woah this is the first super thanks i've seen. great to see the support!

    • @ieatthighs
      @ieatthighs Рік тому +5

      hey, I never really understood why would someone congratulate someone on having a baby, can you explain? no rudeness, pure curiosity

    • @bestname6669
      @bestname6669 Рік тому

      the first super thank user

    • @killerdroid99
      @killerdroid99 Рік тому +2

      @@ieatthighs surprisingly I was wondering the same 🥲

  • @IAmNumber4000
    @IAmNumber4000 Рік тому +2627

    In the future, I predict devs will use sophisticated neural networks to pick the optimal tech stack so they aren’t driven completely insane
    Edit: I told you all 😂

    • @theterribleanimator1793
      @theterribleanimator1793 Рік тому +88

      thats how skynet starts, mark my words.

    • @jakob7116
      @jakob7116 Рік тому +130

      @@theterribleanimator1793 yeah, I imagine the ai will go crazy with all the different tools and revolt against the humans forcing it to pick

    • @theterribleanimator1793
      @theterribleanimator1793 Рік тому +92

      @@jakob7116 The ai tries to find the best solution, maybe the best solutions is to have no humans at all.

    • @rickyhineman4124
      @rickyhineman4124 Рік тому +28

      @@theterribleanimator1793 it's disturbing how likely that is to be true, lmao

    • @yewo.m
      @yewo.m Рік тому +3

      If the Neural Networks won't be the devs themselves

  • @krzysztofb7560
    @krzysztofb7560 Рік тому +108

    I went back to good old days' backend html rendering (go) + web components (pure js) for interactivity. Can't overestimate how happy that made me.

  • @mrashad_com
    @mrashad_com Рік тому +23

    Congratulations on the newest member of the family, and thank you for this video, as usual very informative

  • @krishgarg2806
    @krishgarg2806 Рік тому +542

    That CSS part was a direct hit to every frontend developer out there.

    • @jasonc6241992
      @jasonc6241992 Рік тому +49

      Why no sticky 🤣

    • @t.adhavan7946
      @t.adhavan7946 Рік тому +36

      Dude bare-bone css are nightmare it just literally suck out our productive times 😖😖

    • @zugdsbtngizudsgbnudsdsoiu
      @zugdsbtngizudsgbnudsdsoiu Рік тому +68

      ​@@t.adhavan7946 Tailwind is nightmare. Use scss. I cannot imagine tailwind working at scale. The examples already have so much copy-paste code. CSS is the easiest thing out there since grid and flex.

    • @jonathanthomas2449
      @jonathanthomas2449 Рік тому +2

      @@zugdsbtngizudsgbnudsdsoiu what’s scss

    • @yewo.m
      @yewo.m Рік тому +13

      A "better CSS". It allows you to nest CSS declarations for less code, use compile-time variables, and many other features

  • @RazgrizDuTTA
    @RazgrizDuTTA Рік тому +229

    Me, who does scientific computing: "You guys are getting a front-end?! :o "
    I am happy with my CLI and maybe the occasional unicode plot when I am feeling spicy :)

    • @limlam22
      @limlam22 Рік тому +30

      pyplot is my frontend

    • @RazgrizDuTTA
      @RazgrizDuTTA Рік тому +9

      @@limlam22 I am more of a Julia guy but I also run Conda inside Julia to have access to the huge package library.

    • @nullpointer1755
      @nullpointer1755 Рік тому +9

      @@RazgrizDuTTA i found my people. I'm also a Julia dev, but i only code in Julia for fun and not for scientific stuff. I'm actually planning to write a simple game engine in Julia, or just a package that let julia devs write more easily realtime 3D/2D applications

    • @SageBetko
      @SageBetko Рік тому +6

      @@nullpointer1755 that’s cool. looking forward to it. we need more julia projects like this

    • @Temari_Virus
      @Temari_Virus Рік тому +6

      Most of my personal projects are games, and so far I've only used the CLI as my frontend lol. I should probably learn something like opengl, but currently I'm too comfortable with using the CLI

  • @thecodfather7109
    @thecodfather7109 Рік тому +53

    Hey yo congratulations my dude! Welcome to fatherhood. Stay blessed 🙏🏽

  • @RenatoPassosSantos
    @RenatoPassosSantos Рік тому +5

    Congratulations on your baby, Jeff!! Great content as always and this is one of your best videos - which is a lot, since your videos rock!

  • @nemeziz_prime
    @nemeziz_prime Рік тому +1377

    I'm a sheep, I follow everything Jeff says/teaches on Fireship....
    ....and I am proud to be a "FireSheep"

    • @sealoftime
      @sealoftime Рік тому +47

      I sure hope I won't get Fired from job for following everything Jeff says to the point and rewriting our legacy enterprise system in Svelte

    • @cyberwoodoo9466
      @cyberwoodoo9466 Рік тому +21

      @@sealoftime I'm also planning to rewrite all of my mainframe jobs in svelte.

    • @vaidehikumar655
      @vaidehikumar655 Рік тому +5

      And you can also count tha sheep I guess

    • @TheSimslash
      @TheSimslash Рік тому

      @@sealoftime You won't get fired man, you will get fireshiped !

    • @troythompson2
      @troythompson2 Рік тому +2

      Same. It works

  • @JeanOsorio
    @JeanOsorio Рік тому +38

    I really go for FKIT 👌🏽

    • @sumitpurohit8849
      @sumitpurohit8849 Рік тому

      less go

    • @poakssa
      @poakssa Рік тому +5

      Yeah and in corporate we can pretend to pronounce it as f-kit but we'll all know

  • @galaxies_dev
    @galaxies_dev Рік тому +9

    Awesome as always, just when I was looking for the tech stack for my upgraded membership 🔥Congrats on the baby of course, exciting (and often hard) times ahead 🙌

  • @pixelperfectgamer
    @pixelperfectgamer Рік тому +2

    You are awesome man. Your content is short, precise, and full of quality. Thanks, especially for this video. I was looking for something like this for my personal blog. Also congrats on the baby!

  • @IngwiePhoenix
    @IngwiePhoenix Рік тому +319

    "Or we could call it 'fuck it'."
    Absolutely gold standard humor right there. Caught me off-guard and now my sides hurt - perfect :D
    I have been burnt from webdev a few times because of what I want to do; but what you mentioned with Svelte Kit is amazing. Usually I got stuck with the question of "How do I transistion from SSR to CSR?" And the answer is hydration and a shitload of manual callback stacking to de-initialize a current context and re-initialize the next one when the new components load in. Its... meh... I feel like TTC (time to content) is very important. I hate waiting on websites to load their megabytes of JavaScript when all I want to do is just read an article and then bugger off. xD
    Thank you for showcasing those libs and frameworks!

    • @sergiorodrigoroyo5079
      @sergiorodrigoroyo5079 3 місяці тому

      Yeah, this guy is not only informative, but also hilarious. Really funny. It makes watching this fast-paced content much easier.

  • @TayambaMwanza
    @TayambaMwanza Рік тому +20

    Glad to see you branching out and thanks for shouting out Angular, I'm from back in your angular exclusive content days.
    If standalone components become official maybe in 5 years time should take another look at it 😊

  • @rafalpotasz
    @rafalpotasz Рік тому +7

    I'm still a newbie but the tech stack I've been slowly getting used to is Sveltekit, TailwindCSS, GSAP (for them animations) and Firebase seems pretty awesome too. I'm tempted to throw in Sanity into the mix too. I just love simplicity and the over engineering of some of the stacks I've seen give me learner-anxiety.

  • @LuizFernandoAlvino
    @LuizFernandoAlvino Рік тому +2

    And here we are again, waiting for the Svelte year to come. Great video, Jeff.

  • @RaghavSethi-IN
    @RaghavSethi-IN Рік тому +15

    Uk it's gonna be a good day when fireship posts on ur bday

  • @penguindrummaster
    @penguindrummaster Рік тому +150

    As a former SQL developer, I somewhat laugh at the thought of needing Full-Text Search, as I've implemented a fairly standard SQL solution for it in the past. It's no where near as quick as something like ElasticSearch, but on data sets under 1M it will be sub-second. You just need your ingest process to tokenize all text, create a hash-table of the unique entries, and then a cross-reference table of the text Value-id to the Entity-id. Add another column to the index so that it's sorted by Attribute-id, as in the EAV model, and you will be able to perform a global search on all occurrences of text, grouped by the data source (represented by Attribute-id), or a focused search that specifies a type of data.
    While I appreciate the simplicity of a purpose-built solution, I feel like everyone should learn to use SQL, if just to appreciate how data is organized. Of course, someone could make the same argument about picking up Hadoop instead of letting SQL manage file access, organization and other such wonderful features, but I do feel like SQL gets a bad reputation despite how useful and scalable it is (when done correctly)

    • @zekicaneksi
      @zekicaneksi Рік тому +65

      we don't want to learn all that shit man we are web developers just make a framework of it

    • @tyg6693
      @tyg6693 Рік тому +31

      This approach doesn't handle soundex and fuzzy string searching though. Something like Elasticsearch or Algolia is way more user friendly and saves a ton of dev time to get it up and running.
      I don't disagree that SQL is super important to know well, but I think it's probably more important to know when to build vs buy in most cases, and search is almost always a buy scenario if you want something that is feature rich and user friendly.

    • @penguindrummaster
      @penguindrummaster Рік тому +10

      @@tyg6693 I agree to a point. I've been burned by vendors in the past, but some vendors still have my trust (such as SQL, Redis, Elastic). I agree that when something is performance critical, or needs to be bulletproof, adopting a well-known solution is usually far better in terms of cost-benefit than a home-brew solution ever will be.

    • @guilhermemoreira4603
      @guilhermemoreira4603 Рік тому

      @@tyg6693 I've used sonic before with some degree of success. It feels like a good enough, lightweight alternative to elasticsearch.

    • @tyg6693
      @tyg6693 Рік тому +3

      @@penguindrummaster for sure, there's definitely some sketchy vendors out there. I've used Algolia for a couple projects and like the video says they can be pricey, and have some interesting billing practices (every keystroke is a billable query if you use their provided type ahead library out of the box) but it is faster to set up than Elastic, so some merit if you want something quick and easy. You do raise a valid point about being careful with all these newer SaaS vendors though

  • @ummerzaman3529
    @ummerzaman3529 Рік тому +1

    It's a blessing having traversy and this channel, fun and learning in a quite distinct way!!!

  • @marcoio8742
    @marcoio8742 Рік тому +4

    To just listen to this I am so happy. I have been building a project with a friend that I hope will become a very successful project and guess what, I am using the exact same stack: SvelteKit, TailwindCSS, TypeScript, Firebase and Redis. Idk maybe I just watch too many of you videos, but that might mean we became best friends

  • @kiwihour333
    @kiwihour333 Рік тому +82

    When I decided to start learning frameworks after a year or two of NodeJS practice.
    I first went all out trying to learn a few popular frameworks and really making sure I understood the pros and cons of each (vue, react, svelte)
    At first I thought Vue was my choice, but when I realised I needed SSR nuxt was just way too confusing for me. React was already too hard for me to use
    SvelteKit was just perfect for my choice of coding. Glad to see some appreciation

    • @newtanagmukhopadhyay4716
      @newtanagmukhopadhyay4716 Рік тому +5

      frontend was never my cup of tea. i too learnt nodejs 2 years ago, now working as a backend developer(java / springboot).

    • @dipanjanghosal1662
      @dipanjanghosal1662 Рік тому +1

      @@newtanagmukhopadhyay4716 can you give me some pointers how you shifted to backend? I mean I'm junior frontend. Where do I start to eventually move to backend?

    • @pictzone
      @pictzone Рік тому +5

      @@dipanjanghosal1662 if you do go back end, avoid Java like it's the plague

    • @arindam_chowdhury
      @arindam_chowdhury Рік тому +7

      @@dipanjanghosal1662 I will say learn Node JS, since you're a frontend developer. You will be accustomed with javascript. Make small projects, then start making portfolios, test them, deploy them and then sit for interviews.
      This can be done within 6 months to a year.
      P.S. I switched from backend to frontend. :p

    • @teratoma.
      @teratoma. Рік тому +3

      @@pictzone why? I love working in java + spring

  • @shawnrobertdoyle5242
    @shawnrobertdoyle5242 Рік тому +164

    One thing I've found with utility class based CSS like Tailwind is that there is a tradeoff between speed of initial development and speed of maintenance. When every element in your DOM has got 20+ classes, changes can be hard to make
    Definitely agree about Svelte & Typescript though

    • @Nightmare339
      @Nightmare339 Рік тому +30

      Tailwind is cool for prototyping, but it's just a bloat if you want to use this on production. It's crazy people do this.

    • @abdulghani1943
      @abdulghani1943 Рік тому +7

      Github uses tailwind, wondering if that’s the case then how such a big company is using it.

    • @Nightmare339
      @Nightmare339 Рік тому +16

      @@abdulghani1943 man use whatever you like, maybe it's acceptable cost of the bloat and maintenance that they want take, or maybe they don't have any sane frontend developers that actually know how to use css; I don't care. It that works for them, cool.
      I can't imagine maintaining this monstrosity.

    • @okie9025
      @okie9025 Рік тому +7

      Adding a single extra class to a list of classes is too much work to you?

    • @IainSimmons
      @IainSimmons Рік тому +21

      There's a VS Code extension (or maybe ESLint plugin) that sorts your Tailwind classes and will tell you if you repeat one. Makes things way easier to manage

  • @forrest2851
    @forrest2851 Рік тому

    I literally cheered out loud when you said you selected svelte ❤️❤️❤️ you got me into svelte and I haven’t touched another framework since!!!

  • @stanleysurjanto5572
    @stanleysurjanto5572 Рік тому +2

    love watching these stack vids as a noobie web dev student and just being absolutely boggled by how much is out there
    would love a video on the philosophy of "how to learn new techs and how MUCH or how DEEP of that new tech is necessary to learn"

  • @nicolast39
    @nicolast39 Рік тому +3

    I don't know if you've heard of smelte before, but I recently discovered it, and it is a great library that uses tailwind css under the hood for styling. It also makes it very easy to add elements like buttons quickly, or tabs, and really a lot of other things

  • @hectormejia499
    @hectormejia499 Рік тому +43

    I'm a simple man, I see a Fireship video, I click. Never disappoints.

  • @sajaninc5336
    @sajaninc5336 Рік тому +1

    congratulations dude! Welcome to fatherhood. Stay blessed 🙏🏽

  • @roshangeorge97
    @roshangeorge97 Рік тому +2

    Hey! Nice to hear you had a baby!! lots of 💕💕 love, keep up the good work! You changing lives♥️

  • @nomade55
    @nomade55 Рік тому +8

    Very very humbly dropping that your whole website is 100% custom made with Sass. Props to you, the very opaque, tedious, and absolutely insane, but lovely job of doing CSS custom is something I truly enjoy and respect.

    • @wombat7961
      @wombat7961 Місяць тому +1

      i will humbly be a css-only salaried developer, i never understood the exodus to framework it, just pay us to do artsy stuff

  • @jmagrippis
    @jmagrippis Рік тому +28

    4:55 Hey, I made a tutorial on a Sticky Navbar with Tailwind and Svelte 😄
    My decisions for most apps, quite a lot of overlap:
    1. Svelte
    2. SvelteKit
    3. TypeScript
    4. TailwindCSS
    5. Supabase!
    6. Supabase Postgres + Redis!
    7. Playwright & Vitest!
    8. Stripe (other notable ones: Maybe Postmark for transactional emails, ConvertKit for campaigns, Plausible for metrics)

  • @lcarv20
    @lcarv20 Рік тому +1

    Awesome stack! I also chose Firebase Sveltekit, tailwind and daisyUI recently for project I started to a client!

  • @HeatCrawler
    @HeatCrawler Рік тому +2

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I find easy to understand why you chose a specific stack. But in the end almost anything will work. And Yes svelte is awesome, It's unexpectedly pleasantly polished. It might be the subsequent (pun intended) big thing.

  • @TulioVersus
    @TulioVersus Рік тому +29

    I have been using Svelte + DaisyUI and is just amazingly fast, love it

    • @fibre0690
      @fibre0690 Рік тому +2

      I've been using SvelteKit with tailwindcss and find it amazingly productive. Do you feel like you're giving up on customizability going with something like DaisyUI? I've never really liked Bootstrap, so hopefully it's quite different?

    • @TulioVersus
      @TulioVersus Рік тому +5

      @@fibre0690 DaisyUI is definitely more flexible than boostrap, but it is still a design system and trying to vary from it is always problematic. But being tailwind based makes any type of customization completely viable, something that boostrap can't deliver very

    • @gokudomatic
      @gokudomatic Рік тому

      Pretty nice. Thanks for sharing. I like TailwindCSS for custom layouts and artistic web pages, but it's not ideal to quickly build a web app with a standard look. DaisyUI seems to do the trick. And of course, I can still use Tailwind utility classes on top of Daisy's components.

  • @reandov
    @reandov Рік тому +7

    Decision #3 is so solid and truthful. I'm biased to say, but other than my job's project I will never use JavaScript anymore. For me, TypeScript is way superior just by having a rich type system. Great video Jeff :)

  • @UnknownUser-ud1es
    @UnknownUser-ud1es Рік тому +2

    Started using svelte with fast api and so far loving it.
    Will be trying out daisyUI in the stack for UI component. Thanks for the suggestion.
    My favorite feature on svelte happens to be writable.subscribe which makes data change in one part of code visible in all parts using it. Really loving it. For anyone starting out with svelte I really suggest typescript enabled mode as it helps you out with less runtime errors as the project grows. I really learned it the hard way.

  • @william.darrigo
    @william.darrigo 10 місяців тому

    You're the light in the tunnel for devs. Thank you for saving me hours of my life trying to center a div

  • @vladislavvaradinov2562
    @vladislavvaradinov2562 Рік тому +26

    A good open source alternative to Algolia is Meilisearch (written in Rust and works as a drop in replacement for Algolia)

    • @KevinJohnMulligan
      @KevinJohnMulligan Рік тому

      That sounds great!

    • @ioneocla6577
      @ioneocla6577 Рік тому

      He talked about it and another search solution called zinc written in go on another video about opensource tools

  • @cemreomerayna463
    @cemreomerayna463 Рік тому +6

    Hello!I have been watching your "in 100 secs" series for quite a while. Can you make the ones for AI/ML libraries, such as PyTorch, Caffe, TensorFlow, OpenNN, etc.?
    Congrats for your child, I wish the best for you and your family.

  • @SRG-Learn-Code
    @SRG-Learn-Code Рік тому

    Hell yeah!! Svelte, wind and fire. I'm pretty excited as that is my stack choice and can't wait to watch your approach.

  • @Y-anon
    @Y-anon Рік тому +1

    I love this channel, every other video I feel like dropping all my tech stack and restart my app I've been working on for the last year.
    More seriously though, in 2025 we'll use whatever framework is already learnt and master by an AI and just ask it to poop webpages, docs, and tests all at once.

  • @baayu
    @baayu Рік тому +5

    hi! you should create a vanilla extract css video, I think its a solid styling solution, you can write atomic CSS with fully typesafe, and features like component variants

  • @mrdbourke
    @mrdbourke Рік тому +58

    This stack looks epic, how about hosting? Where will you host your website? My understanding is you’ll create pre-rendered HTML pages and serve them statically from a bucket somewhere? Then call to Serverless APIs when you need something not static?

    • @FinaISpartan
      @FinaISpartan Рік тому +9

      You don't need hosting if you have a static site. The site is served from a CDN and calls lambda APIs.

    • @dhkatz_
      @dhkatz_ Рік тому +12

      Firebase does hosting

    • @NesCroft
      @NesCroft Рік тому +5

      Firebase hosting

    • @liquidsnakex
      @liquidsnakex Рік тому +23

      @@FinaISpartan _”The site is served from a CDN”_
      Also known as hosting, hosts don’t necessarily have to be centralized.

    • @kittymedusa3618
      @kittymedusa3618 Рік тому +6

      Netlify or Vercel are super simple.

  • @gogiez
    @gogiez Рік тому

    congratulations! infinitely cute that the voice began to sound much quieter than before. waiting for new videos, thanks for the content

  • @francisartemiolandia6396
    @francisartemiolandia6396 Рік тому

    congratulations on your baby! I like your content as always. God bless,

  • @manishroy3024
    @manishroy3024 Рік тому +39

    Since, this will be a one of a kind combination of libraries and frameworks, I would suggest FIRST as the acronym.
    Fi - Firebase
    R - Rails
    S - Svelte
    T - Tailwind

    • @avidrucker
      @avidrucker Рік тому

      +1

    • @malcewicz
      @malcewicz Рік тому +15

      Cool idea, but nothing beats FKIT

    • @AustinMerrick
      @AustinMerrick Рік тому +18

      but he isn't using rails? lol

    • @manishroy3024
      @manishroy3024 Рік тому

      @@AustinMerrick yup, coz he left the backend part for us to decide.

    • @AustinMerrick
      @AustinMerrick Рік тому +1

      @@manishroy3024 what would you use rails for if you are using firebase and sveltekit already?

  • @chadbosch1110
    @chadbosch1110 Рік тому +5

    As much as Svelte looks tempting I still feel it lacks a community to be a solid 1st choice though svelte has the potential to be the future it's like the react we all wanted.. hence why I'm sticking to VueJS.. With Databases I'll continue using SQL for overall flexibility (KnexJS + ObjectionJS to simply the development experience) Defs using Tailwindcss(Unocss too) and Vitest. And looking forward to trying Nuxt 3

  • @DrJimmyBob
    @DrJimmyBob Рік тому +2

    I love this break down. I just finished a portfolio site but I already have loads of ideas for v2, so I'll be looking at Astro at some point.

  • @ibrahimahmed5197
    @ibrahimahmed5197 Рік тому

    Man you really surprised me with that news congratulations on the kid very happy for you : )

  • @rtorcato
    @rtorcato Рік тому +4

    Mantine is simply the best react component framework. Surprising more people don't know about it

  • @0jinx
    @0jinx Рік тому +7

    As a frontend dev, I strongly prefer styled components over any other css framework because I subscribe to the idea of component driven designs.
    Eg instead of making new navbars for every project, I just have a highly customizable one that I just import into a new project and just focus on unique functionality or theme for said project.
    Styled components let you keep logic and styles in a single file cleanly with no dependencies

    • @maharta8458
      @maharta8458 Рік тому +1

      Vue let you do that easily

    • @0jinx
      @0jinx Рік тому

      @@maharta8458 I like nextjs. Plus styled components allows for more complex styling customization (eg conditional stylings with changeable variables), Something that isn't native to vue

    • @0jinx
      @0jinx Рік тому

      @竜巫 | Siwaga Miriko styled components is different from sass, but you can used styled components and tailwind if you like

    • @erickheredia8910
      @erickheredia8910 Рік тому

      Nextjs + ts + tailwindcss + daisyUI = Love

  • @jiwoo7560
    @jiwoo7560 Рік тому +1

    omg.. i know i wont regret choosing svelte as my js framework after pondering and watching alot of js framework videos. ❤️

  • @SonnySangha
    @SonnySangha Рік тому +1

    Awesome Video Jeff!

  • @pesterenan
    @pesterenan Рік тому +6

    Man, I just started learning React this year as part of my internship and to see just how many frameworks exist, that makes my head spin!
    **chuckles** -I'm in danger!

    • @MaryamMaqdisi
      @MaryamMaqdisi Рік тому +3

      We've all been there (and most of us are still there to a certain extent lol), don't worry too much about it and be patient with yourself! :)

    • @remigsbackup
      @remigsbackup 8 місяців тому +2

      just stick to your favorit and git gud with it, no need to know them all ;D (I use Vue btw)

  • @reinoob
    @reinoob Рік тому +4

    Well, i just compiled two different react apps and served them with a simple php script based on the route. Very neat. I even automatized it all with a shell script and nodejs

  • @inasuma8180
    @inasuma8180 Рік тому +1

    I recently built up the infra around a new static blog site, and I’m using next JS with netlify cms which has proved to be a very nice combination. Arguably netlify cms isn’t the best ever UI but it gets the job done, and combined with next JS, it’s very straightforward. I’d love to hear more of your thoughts on netlify and how it compares to other app hosting services!

  • @adriman2
    @adriman2 Рік тому

    Love to read and see how many devs are starting to Sveltkit for their projects.
    Just discovered DaisyUI and started using it in my SvelteKit project, couldn't be more happy about it.

  • @mtgshmoopy
    @mtgshmoopy Рік тому +7

    Svelte and SvelteKit are essentially everything I've ever wanted from writing FE code. The worst part of Svelte is the majority of the maintainers do not like custom elements (Web Components) and are therefore disinterested in spending their time supporting them. So if you're looking to use Svelte's (pretty incredible) internal custom elements compiler doohickey to create portable components... maybe give it a year or three and check back in.

  • @braden-wong
    @braden-wong Рік тому +12

    Crazy coincidence, I just started using Sveltekit with DaisyUI for a personal project! Love this stack

    • @kayaba_atributtion2156
      @kayaba_atributtion2156 Рік тому +5

      DaisyUI is awesome, specially the theme changes! I can ship 10+ styles for a client in the same amount of time

    • @dongums
      @dongums Рік тому

      @@kayaba_atributtion2156 can i ask how do you change themes using svelte/sveltekit? idk how to access root html tag

  • @geordanhouse8247
    @geordanhouse8247 Рік тому

    Bruhhhh Massive congrats man, shout to new lil dev in the family :)

  • @PaulMarcX
    @PaulMarcX Рік тому

    Congrats on your baby, God bless you fam!

  • @Kingside88
    @Kingside88 Рік тому +5

    Just spend more time with your'e Baby! They grow up so fast and the memories with you're kid are much better than some another JS Framework

  • @DaCurse0
    @DaCurse0 Рік тому +5

    I wouldn't call Ruby on Rails and Django "Full Stack Frameworks", they are backend frameworks, they don't do much when it comes to client side interactivity, you are pretty much on your own there. Remix or Next + API Routes are "Full Stack" because they are your backend and frontend.

    • @dongums
      @dongums Рік тому

      Many others don't consider Next.js as fullstack because it doesn't have built-in authentication or ORM

    • @DaCurse0
      @DaCurse0 Рік тому +3

      @@dongums That's not what full stack means though

  • @SuperGojeto
    @SuperGojeto Рік тому

    First of all congratulations man for your baby! Another amazing video.

  • @felipegutierrez2944
    @felipegutierrez2944 Рік тому

    Congratulations on the baby! I love your content

  • @LuLeBe
    @LuLeBe Рік тому +27

    I really don't know why people feel that CSS is so difficult. I've used stuff like bootstrap but honestly now I just use sass. It's all I ever needed even for fairly complex sites. I'm not a huge fan of how tailwind pollutes the HTML, it looks more like a bunch of styles than markup of the site structure.
    I admit than knowing CSS well is required for that to be easy, but I feel like tailwind is similarly complex to learn because you still need to know about CSS and then also need to know the tailwind classes.

    • @botondhetyey159
      @botondhetyey159 Рік тому +1

      At least with react, I find that tailwind makes things a lot easier for me personally. It's not that it's neccessarily easier to learn, as you said, you still need to know CSS to use it effectively. But once you do, tailwind makes it much faster to get a good looking component.

    • @Ironication
      @Ironication Рік тому

      Perhaps the best tool would be something that gets the ball rolling in relatively short amount of time, and then you can opt out and do your thing.

    • @IllllIIllllI
      @IllllIIllllI Рік тому +1

      vscode tailwind extension shows all of the tailwind classes and what css they apply

  • @angadtendulkar292
    @angadtendulkar292 Рік тому +4

    As a react dev, I use next.js with typescript, Prisma and postgres if I need to, and since I am to lazy to do css, I use chakramUI or nextUI

  • @brandonsayring
    @brandonsayring Рік тому +1

    As a dad I have to commend you for having a new born and still managing to pump out the great content. Respect.

  • @jpedro912
    @jpedro912 Рік тому +1

    Hey man, live your content. Thank you for existing on this platform. Suggestion: make a second channel to show yourself building the projects on the videos of this channel, or some other content in the form of live coding.
    I would love to see that!

  • @desirechiduku964
    @desirechiduku964 Рік тому +4

    The next thing I want to talk about is Typescript if you’re building a big complicated project use it the end 😂😅

  • @torkilddyvikolsen1298
    @torkilddyvikolsen1298 Рік тому +4

    This is a pretty good stack I would say, but I have a few notes:
    * No mention of EdgeDB - a database I think you should consider.
    * An open source contender to Algolia, namely Meilisearch, is worth a mention.
    * Firebase really isn't doing it for me. It's probably good, but that lock-in is unbearable.. CouchDB + PouchDB seems to be a good alternative for the parts that a relational database can't handle.
    * To me CSS is a breeze, making Tailwind an unnecessary crutch, and a maintainability hazard.

    • @doorey2
      @doorey2 Рік тому

      What is it you do that you are able to use such great tech? Isn't everyone just locked into whatever standard old fashioned thing their job is using?

    • @torkilddyvikolsen1298
      @torkilddyvikolsen1298 Рік тому

      @@doorey2 Lifestyle consultancy agency. Also co-founding a couple of startups helps.

    • @erickheredia8910
      @erickheredia8910 Рік тому

      You can use DaisyUI. You can also create classes using tailwind if you don't like to put them directly in the component.

    • @torkilddyvikolsen1298
      @torkilddyvikolsen1298 Рік тому

      ​ @Erick Heredia Something like DasiyUI is nice to quickly get something up and running, but I don't see how it can compare to a bespoke tailored solution, both in terms of quality and in maintainability.

  • @LifeLedLucid
    @LifeLedLucid Місяць тому

    I know this probably wasn't intentional, but this felt like a flex on just how many tools your aware of. I'm truly impressed by the breadth of your knowledge

  • @DanelonNicolas
    @DanelonNicolas Рік тому

    Awesome. Perfect. Thanks for all this. I'm currently using react-daisyui with preact and ssr with vite. that's really edgy.
    I love your login button, Live long and prosper!

  • @universecode1101
    @universecode1101 Рік тому +14

    As a Js - React dev, my BEST STACK is React (Next.js) Tailwind Css or Pure Css or Sass, Firebase or MongoDB, Stripe, TypeScript, GraphQL to better manage API in some projects, and React Native for apps and ...
    TOO MANY THINGS TO LEARN 😜

    • @afaque.
      @afaque. Рік тому +1

      You seem to be in tutorial hell mate

    • @universecode1101
      @universecode1101 Рік тому +2

      @@afaque. I think kinda, we're all in it. It is part of the process, to always stay up to date. But anyway no, I can handle it ✌🏻

  • @z.zsamad5603
    @z.zsamad5603 5 місяців тому

    Awesome content.
    Congratulations on your baby!

  • @MrZax-kl5si
    @MrZax-kl5si Рік тому +2

    Congrats Jeff for having a baby. ❤️

  • @Valiant600
    @Valiant600 Рік тому +3

    Svelte the most loved but only 4% of professionals use it vs the 44% of React... Still has a long way to go.

  • @user-qr4jf4tv2x
    @user-qr4jf4tv2x 10 місяців тому +6

    fireship is such a simp to firebase

  • @thisismutty
    @thisismutty Рік тому +1

    Been tooting the svelte horn since I discovered it in 2018. That plus tailwind is gold!

  • @volimsir
    @volimsir Рік тому +1

    Great stack. I've been using the same thing (except Firebase, because I need integration with a custom backend), and it's been surprisingly easy to integrate everything.
    SvelteKit makes things so much easier, and adding tailwind is really easy.
    Also, if you're doing anything except rapid prototyping without a designer, I wouldn't recommend daisyUI (or any other Tailwind framework, except TailwindUI). It just complicated things for me, and I ended up just switching back to plain tailwind to style my components. Nothing against people that use it, but for me it just didn't make sense, since I already had a component design to follow.

  • @hiwhatname4127
    @hiwhatname4127 Рік тому +3

    Hey mum

  • @giorgimerabishvili8194
    @giorgimerabishvili8194 Рік тому +4

    Angular is the most accomplished UI framework out there!

  • @ibrahimadnan3838
    @ibrahimadnan3838 Рік тому

    Wishing you many happiness on your new bundle of joy ❤️

  • @SpencerYonce
    @SpencerYonce Рік тому

    Dude this video is a goldmine… keep making these bro. You. Are. Awesome.

  • @mateja176
    @mateja176 Рік тому +1

    Congrats on your little one Jeff! 🎉

  • @thomas6502
    @thomas6502 Рік тому +1

    Appreciate your insights as always sir. Thanks! And, congratulations dad!

  • @cristinocanga
    @cristinocanga Рік тому

    Congrats🙏🏿
    For the baby and the good content

  • @idselseno2306
    @idselseno2306 Рік тому +2

    For full text search I use Manticore Search as an alternative to Algolia. It's almost free to use and easy to setup anywhere. It can handle millions of records in a breeze. It also covers several use cases like radius search on a map and it's huge one one for me. It's not as fancy as Algolia with a web dashboard but again I think I don't need such feature.

  • @yuliankarapetkov
    @yuliankarapetkov Рік тому

    I am currently building a mobile app with SvelteKit, Capacitor and Firebase. Killer stack!

  • @sagarwakchaure9047
    @sagarwakchaure9047 Рік тому

    Congratulations on your baby.. thanks for the great content.

  • @iconic9489
    @iconic9489 Рік тому

    I have just finished by beginners learning and started building projects . Even this early , the " i spend more time writing css that javascript " is so relatable

  • @ukaszzajac6704
    @ukaszzajac6704 Рік тому

    im literally currently using the exact same stack except im doing ssr with serverless functions, i found an npm package that does it almost all for me and everything is working great

  • @beckyb9215
    @beckyb9215 Рік тому

    Congrats on the baby! :D Best wishes to your family

  • @AlfieMakes
    @AlfieMakes Рік тому

    I like firekit. You are killing it with this content man, I love it so much.

  • @labialkosta261
    @labialkosta261 Рік тому

    You're just a big inspiration to me Thanks a lot and congrats on your baby 🥰

  • @Kevin192291
    @Kevin192291 Рік тому +2

    I am building my business on top of Sveltekit + Tailwind + Stripe I have done tons with it, but still would LOVE to see a course on your site for Sveltekit!!!

  • @audreydelgado2198
    @audreydelgado2198 Рік тому

    Thanks for the great content! And Congratulations on your baby! 👶