Well usually you'll throw strikes to obtain an angle, so I feel like that one doesn't quite work. Also plenty of knockouts are not thrown from angles, but from playing on your opponents bad guard habits (e.g. not sweeping past your face when blocking a front kick to the body). Also standing grappling is more "posture before takedown" than "control before takedown"
@@TheTMschannel I'd agree with except for the fact the best grappler/wrestlers utilize boxing the most because the angles not only keep you out of the way of strikes as well as takedowns. As for obtaining a dominant angle of attack you can get it before, during, and after a combination. Neither option is more effective than the other. This lack of understanding in the striking range is the reason why people like Kron Gracie will never advance their BJJ over someone who understands positioning. People like Kevin Holland, Khabib, or Olivera, or Islam have to risk getting hit clean before they advance their grappling which is not recommended for everyone. The best pro grappling/anti grapplers are guys like Dominic Cruz, Mighty Mouse, Jon Jones, Frank Shamrock. All of those guys utilize dominant angle of attack to initiate offense and eliminate their opponents chance at a takedown.
Very well said. I’d like to hear John’s perspective on angles before strikes, and particularly on the importance of footwork vs handwork to create angles.
Insaaaane! I knew Danaher and crew would come up with some great systems and insightful understandings on standing grappling despite the extreme length of time wrestling and other stand up arts have existed,, but the explanations and concepts are still explained with such clarity that it blows my mind. I really wish I could train under them. At this point, I kinda consider Danaher's black belt as another tier altogther. I'd probably ask if I could start over at white belt if I ever got a chance to train at their school, haha!
14:10 "Gordon has never been scored on........ in ADCC" Let's not forget, in all his Freestyle Wrestling matches, Gordon has been taken down in less than 1 minute, controlled and finished in less than 2 minutes. *There's levels to this game.*
feet 2 floor is gi focused and fastest way is nogi. Also fastest way is focused on an easy to learn and concise system, feet 2 floor is more of an encyclopedic deep dive
As long as the rules don't change stand up will never become significant in BJJ you get what two points maybe? There's no reward for effort. Same thing with Judo's strict time limit on the ground. The rules dictate how the art moves forward.
As much as I appreciate Danahers ground work, this is not really good. Not attacking the center of gravity, no connection! only pushing around. With advance stand up fight, you naturally come up with no-gi judo techniques or free-style wrestling.
So now John Danaher is a takedown specialist? Gimme a break. He can't even run the pipe right. Head position is wrong, he didn't even touch on shoulder pressure on the leg and his feet weren't even in the right position. Leave the takedowns to wrestlers who know what they are doing John.
Jocko already gave a good summary of why grappling is more important for self-defence. In almost every striking scenario, you have the option to run. You can choose to disengage if needed. Being a good striker will help you with that, but isn't exactly required. BUT once someone grabs you, you can't just choose to disengage when you need to. You need grappling skill in order to keep that choice open.
@@zartic4life You're saying that as if Jiu Jitsu has a Universal ruleset... Come on now don't be a knob... Plus who was talking about competition anyway?
As long as John Danaher looks into jiujitsu as combat sport not martial art he won' t be able to find effective stand up techniques neither be able to improve classic jiujitsu techniques as Renzo did about many subs and positions . Look at his standup suggestioms , Ositions , etc.. he misses the point completely , no stance , no adequate postures , no connection , everything in his teaching is wrong . O
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On the ground: position before submission; standing: control before takedown; striking: angles before strikes.
Well usually you'll throw strikes to obtain an angle, so I feel like that one doesn't quite work. Also plenty of knockouts are not thrown from angles, but from playing on your opponents bad guard habits (e.g. not sweeping past your face when blocking a front kick to the body). Also standing grappling is more "posture before takedown" than "control before takedown"
@@TheTMschannel I'd agree with except for the fact the best grappler/wrestlers utilize boxing the most because the angles not only keep you out of the way of strikes as well as takedowns. As for obtaining a dominant angle of attack you can get it before, during, and after a combination. Neither option is more effective than the other. This lack of understanding in the striking range is the reason why people like Kron Gracie will never advance their BJJ over someone who understands positioning. People like Kevin Holland, Khabib, or Olivera, or Islam have to risk getting hit clean before they advance their grappling which is not recommended for everyone. The best pro grappling/anti grapplers are guys like Dominic Cruz, Mighty Mouse, Jon Jones, Frank Shamrock. All of those guys utilize dominant angle of attack to initiate offense and eliminate their opponents chance at a takedown.
All of them: advantage before attack.
@@TheTMschannel Maybe so but you should definitely being throwing feints first which almost count
Very well said. I’d like to hear John’s perspective on angles before strikes, and particularly on the importance of footwork vs handwork to create angles.
The focus on Bernardo's face as John is talking, Bernardo's willingness to learn and passion for BJJ is top class.
Just a Huge Honor for me to get a notification of a new video!
The hardest part of this instructional was trying not to say "wrestling" to avoid upsetting bjj fans.
Watching this by myself, huge honor for me.
Huge honor watchig this while pooping
do hemorrhoids instead of roids
Nice same!!
waiting for the "Effective in Sitting Position"...
Poopin on the seat, standup on the feat. Exit the Bowels.
@@brandonm5295 Systematically Attacking the Bowels.
Placido is becoming his own huge honour.
Next Danaher will release "Art of Fisting to Face" instructional where he tries to avoid using the word "Boxing" for 16 hours.
Huge honor and huge Placido....pause.....He is a monster now John. He's not going to take your shit anymore lmao.
I thought the exact same. Guy took the danaher bullying personally and got on the Danaher Death Steds.
Huge honor for me to be able to listen to John Danaher in any context.
Downloaded this instructional last week, it's amazing
Huge honor, 2nd always
Huge honor to be the 50.555th viewer of this video
Huge honor for me to be watching this before a tournament
Placido’s bulk and cut went really well.
1st view and commenter, huge honor for me.
hell naah, get outa here
Huge honor to see this comment
Insaaaane! I knew Danaher and crew would come up with some great systems and insightful understandings on standing grappling despite the extreme length of time wrestling and other stand up arts have existed,, but the explanations and concepts are still explained with such clarity that it blows my mind. I really wish I could train under them. At this point, I kinda consider Danaher's black belt as another tier altogther. I'd probably ask if I could start over at white belt if I ever got a chance to train at their school, haha!
Seeing this video 10 days after it's upload. Huge honour for me
The timing of this, I was literally looking for a video on this topic!
Good video. Love the stand up game more than anything else.
I was looking but I don't see Seymour Vidos. :)
Huge honor for me to watch Bernardo Faria videos.
Summary:
Inside position with hands.
Head position, limit exposure of back of head.
Drive with the legs, stay off your knees.
Prioritize collar tie and use it to control opponent's posture and foot position.
John with fluidity and dexterity of Robert DeNiro in Irishman fight scene 🥲
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Single leg to high c, single leg to ankle pick and single leg to duck under back take are my favourite chains
Great instructional video!
Love this, reminds me of some of the stuff the book “Keep Rolling” covers
Huge honor for me to comment after 3 months
Fastest way: go to a proper place to learn standing: wrestling, judo, sambo. Learn from and against proficient standing grapplers.
The detail I will add is to learn efficient parts of these arts in a grappling context where submissions hold and chokeholds are allowed.
Very helpful thank you 🙏
I remember when danaher laughed at placido for being the smallest guy he trains and demonstrates with.
I see he’s taken that to heart.
Does anyone know the difference between this instructional vs standing 2 ground?
Looking forward to this one john!
14:10 "Gordon has never been scored on........ in ADCC"
Let's not forget, in all his Freestyle Wrestling matches, Gordon has been taken down in less than 1 minute, controlled and finished in less than 2 minutes.
*There's levels to this game.*
Why do wrestlers get on BJJ pages?
Is Gordon feeding Placido?
Bernardo saying “Like ADCC rules…” almost brought up CJI
Huge me for honor !
Love from Romania!
Facing wrestlers; what would be their top five(ish) go-to techniques, and what could be my countermeasure(s)?
That's a limited view of looking at it, tbh.
Im new to the sport, who is the Gary they mention at the end of the video? I want to go see what he does. Thanks
Gary Tonon
How got Placido so bulky? I was skinny like him and still struggling to gain muscles... Is he juiced or nah?'
love it
Huge honor for me to be top 20 comments please like
It's been interesting watching Placido's journey from skinny uke to Italian mob henchman
This video is so young
student: Prof John, how did they name positions in jiu jitsu
John : tells how language was created
Had to put on headphones just to hear John.
5 min in and some bass tone has started through my stereo that sounds like the mother ship is landing. Fuckin white belt audio lol
Huge honour for me to be alive in the same timeframe as the bumbag king.
5 stones jiujitsu WOOOO
"Huge honor for me"
camera man has sleep apnea
"No amount of position will make up for failures in posture"
difference between the fastest way to become effective in the standing position & feet 2 floor
feet 2 floor is gi focused and fastest way is nogi. Also fastest way is focused on an easy to learn and concise system, feet 2 floor is more of an encyclopedic deep dive
As long as the rules don't change stand up will never become significant in BJJ you get what two points maybe? There's no reward for effort. Same thing with Judo's strict time limit on the ground. The rules dictate how the art moves forward.
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Great camera work 🤦🏻♂️
Placido = RIPPED
Placido looking like Tristan tate
Placido looking swole
CJI or ADCC
As much as I appreciate Danahers ground work, this is not really good. Not attacking the center of gravity, no connection! only pushing around. With advance stand up fight, you naturally come up with no-gi judo techniques or free-style wrestling.
Don't waste your time on BJJ. If you want to actually be good at stand-up, learn an effective martial art like Judo, Sambo, wrestling, etc.
So now John Danaher is a takedown specialist? Gimme a break. He can't even run the pipe right. Head position is wrong, he didn't even touch on shoulder pressure on the leg and his feet weren't even in the right position. Leave the takedowns to wrestlers who know what they are doing John.
#1 John had hip replacement
#2 he makes those moves fit bjj more than traditional wrestling where u give up back or get caught in guillotine
dude coached GSP in wrestling and bjj, stfu nerd
Well. One can say that his students are really good at throwing in the BJJ ruleset
Bjj is good to know but striking is far more important in self defense.
Based on what?
Depends on the situation.
There are no silver bullets.
Jocko already gave a good summary of why grappling is more important for self-defence. In almost every striking scenario, you have the option to run. You can choose to disengage if needed. Being a good striker will help you with that, but isn't exactly required. BUT once someone grabs you, you can't just choose to disengage when you need to. You need grappling skill in order to keep that choice open.
@@kris3451 , I was a low blue belt in BJJ and I did MT and Krav
. All around fighter but low intermediate level
Jiu jitsu is becoming catch wrestling 2.O with the introduction of Judo and Guard. Awesome.
Nah as long as the rules stay the same. If they gave Judo 1 minute time limit on the ground it would start looking like BJJ. The rules dictate.
@@zartic4life You're saying that as if Jiu Jitsu has a Universal ruleset... Come on now don't be a knob... Plus who was talking about competition anyway?
New Wave = Catch wrestling rebranded.
Danaher is a smart man. He knows not to bite of the feeding hand.
There's no guard in Catch.
@@andresgreene4913 0/10 for reading comprehension.
As long as John Danaher looks into jiujitsu as combat sport not martial art he won' t be able to find effective stand up techniques neither be able to improve classic jiujitsu techniques as Renzo did about many subs and positions . Look at his standup suggestioms ,
Ositions , etc.. he misses the point completely , no stance , no adequate postures , no connection , everything in his teaching is wrong .
O