@@mattipps Russ doesn't fumble a ball to his feet these days, that thing goes sailing 5 yards away from him right towards a defender. Seen that a lot this year.
Why would he? 1. Russ is washed which is why Seattle got rid of him. 2. He wasn't their first choice to begin with. They wanted Aaron Rodgers and only settled for Russ when they couldn't get him.
I agree with Ryan Clark about Sean Payton…he’s been more than just critical of Russ’ play he’s been disrespectful by the way he carries himself. Russ didn’t lose those games where the defense just lost the game. Despite Russ not putting up huge numbers(defense allowed a team to put up 70) it’s not solely on him, Payton’s play calling has also been questionable
Payton is running his offense which worked with Brees 5,6,7 years ago. The league is leaps and bounds past that time. Watching the NE game I'd say his play calling lost that game at the end when he went ultra conservative instead of staying aggressive which allowed them to get the lead.
Thank you Dan O. and Ryan C. Sean P. would have NEVER EVER handled Drew B. like this. I used to think he was a good coach. CERTAINLY NOT ANYMORE. I’m glad Russell W. is handling this as a PROFESSIONAL , not with arrogance. He deserves to be treated better, even if his play is not consistently to everyone’s approval. It’s called RESPECT for another human.
RC and Dan are 100% right. Thanks for pointing out that Sean Payton needs to be held to some kind of accountability. Calling plays the way he did for 3.5 quarters is not a way to reliably win and honestly, IMO, set Russ up for failure
Russ has been playing pretty decent the past 8 to 10 games but even with that I always thought the head coach was the first to blame whenever a team is playing poorly. Sean Payton knows this so he's trying to hurry and get all the fingers pointing at Russell Wilson
His play calling is all people need to know about the situation. They clearly have 0 trust in Russ to do anything other than hand the ball off or check down on every play. Which is not a knock on Russ, he can win you NFL games, Payton is just stubborn and won’t allow Russ to run an actual NFL level offence
Its also possible that the coach sees this as the only safe way to play russ with the most success. He clesrly has limitations. And a coach with as much experience as SP likely has to try to work with what he got. Is it all russ' fault? No, but also if you look at what they gave up for him he clearly isnt living up to the investment. I wanted Russ to succeed, esp as a Broncos guy. But if your season is washed and you have a chance of taking a financial hit if he gets hurt playing in games that dont mean anything then it makes sense. Russ isnt the guy. Nothing personal against russ he has handled all this criticism with class. He really has. But at the end of the day its still business.
Sean Payton behaved like a bully this whole season. Constantly picking on Russell knowing that Russell is an extremely humble and God-fearing man and it’s not in his nature to go against authority.
Dan shredded this panel 😂 rightfully so. No back up qb that the want to start is better than Russ. But they’ll find out the hard way. Can’t wait to see what’s next for Wilson.
Im so glad RC brought up how the head coach had acted throughout the whole season. He needs to be held to account. Players are paying attention to this. Good luck getting free agents, say want you want but the players know Russ is a good dude.
@olyokie he has no obligation to become best friends with his team mates, he has a family and he puts them first just like he should. People don't like him because they feel like he's fake, but I don't feel like he's fake he would be fake if he acted any other way then the nerdy football player he is.
No player should be disrespected and berated by their coach on national tv. This is insane. Keep it professional at all times; the Coach wants to move Russell .Denver will suffer with this Coach big time.
@@Dee-lw8nv Hahaha another divaruss fanboy….. Its always the coach eh? Ya got not one but two HOF coaches dumping russ. But hey Im sure you know way more about ball than Pete or Sean. Your mancrush is showing…..
@@olyokie Pete thought his best days were behind him rather than him being a bad guy. Thus when the Broncos came in with a big package for him it made all the sense in the world to move on from him.
I loved seeing him get knocked out year after year from the playoffs, can’t stand him at all.. it sucks it was at the expense of drew brees and the saints but Payton deserved to lose and he is indeed overrated and a chump in my eyes
@@the_traveling_texan It's more likely Denver will end up 7-10 this season. The new starting quarterback has career marks of 77 completions of 131 attempts for 926 yards with 6 touchdowns and 7 interceptions in four seasons.
So Payton was just supposed to go out there and say "yeah, we're benching him because he's costing us money and I don't like him."? The bottom line always wins, it's a business.
@@DJP317STARno we’re actually cutting him and moving on. Most people can’t see it from coloradons perspective who go to a watch every game. Russ isn’t the quarterback that can elevate a team at this stage. He runs into sacks, can’t see over the line, not even to make basic slant throws. He plays well out of the pocket but that’s it. Management has not only decided to save money but to completely move on from the situation. Expect them to draft a QB in the first round this summer.
All I have to say is Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan were not humiliated like this on their new teams. Heck even Baker Mayfield was treated better in LA and we see what’s going on in Tampa. We get it’s a football decision, But let’s be honest…did anyone expect the broncos to win the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP or even make it to that game? no. Did we expect them to be fighting for a playoff spot at the end of the season after a horrible one in 2022, yes and that’s exactly where they are now. So this whole thing is odd to me because stats and record aside, this is exactly where we expected the broncos to be. Then when you look at Russ stats, hes outplaying Mahomes, Tua, Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen, the list goes on from a TD/INT perspective Sean just never liked Russ from the beginning period and this was his way out.
I can’t even say his name but I’m glad they called out the Broncos HC. There are ways on how you go about things. He knows he can do that to Russ and get away with it.
Wilson can't get to his third read, he WAS an amazing athlete and that hid all his problems. Now you're seeing how incapable he is when he's lost a step. You can't work with a losing recipe.
I can completely understand why Payton doesn't want Russell Wilson. Wilson is older and slower and his flaws are much more obvious. He was always limited as a QB, but Pete Carroll made that offense work around Russ. Pete Carroll gave Russ up too, remember? He shouldn't have taken the job if he wasn't willing to abide Wilson for at least a couple of season until they had a chance to move on. He shouldn't have signed Wilson to a massive extension without seeing him play. And he can't threaten to bench players to try and leverage them to give up contracts THEY agreed to. I bet players are literally gonna demand more money to play in Denver. After all, how secure are your guarantees if the coach is willing to do THIS to the STARTING QB to leverage him on his contract? Absolutely horrible.
Good luck attracting and retaining other talent when they know you won’t honor contracts you signed and will blame players for coaching issues. I hope Payton fails in every conceivable way.
This will effect nothing for free agents. This deal was made before Payton arrived in Denver and Russ will still get paid for next year! This kind of thing happens all over the NFL. Players know you get paid what you are worth. Fact is Russ isn’t worth that massive contract he signed.
@@DavidB-ui8pgI thought so too initially. But top tier free agents it likely will effect, which is what you ultimately would be concerned about. Players who have multiple options will then start to break down to the other options before making a final decision; state taxes, QB’s, head coaches and culture. Payton has put himself out on an island on both a head coach and his culture. Why would I go there if I’m getting the same money (if not more because of their horrible cap situation for the next two years) somewhere else? They don’t have to keep Russ, but this move which is already bad looks even worse.
Think about it this way: Russell Wilson has the same number of TDs as Tua/Patrick Mahomes and is one TD behind Josh Allen/Jared Goff and if you think that the Broncos have better skill players outside of the Chiefs. Classless.
Most people in the comments don't watch the Broncos! Russ brought them back last week from a 16 point deficit and combined with two 2 point conversations to go into overtime! The play calling in OT by Sean Payton was horrible!
It's quite interesting how disparately Sean Payton has treated Russell Wilson (as compared to Drew Brees). *Drew Brees* : ✔Soapbox Communicator ✔Corny ✔Undersized ✔Athletic ✔Non-Black QB ✔Serenaded by Sean Payton ✔Never Benched/Demoted by Sean Payton *Russell WIlson* : ✔Soapbox Communicator ✔Corny ✔Undersized ✔Athletic ✔Black QB ✔Berated by Sean Payton ✔Rapidly Benched/Demoted by Sean Payton Bottom Line: Wilson and Brees are very similar, yet Payton made it a point to treat them very differently. I find that very interesting.
As a bronco fan Russ deserves a better team that’s gonna treat him right and that’s gonna lead him in the right direction to win a Super Bowl I wish him nothing but the best in the future 🙌
I'm not the biggest Russell fan but put some respect on his name he is a class act and definitely dont deserve this bs after turning their whole year around.
@@123slasher.16 Did you see Joe Flacco COMEBACK from Retirement off his couch and put up 37 points on the Jets last night? That what the Broncos were hoping Russ could do.
Loved when he said" Sean you lucky you got the right one" because Sean not talking to Lamar Jackson or Deshaun Watson like that. Russell just a class act.
@@TampaAries I hear what he's saying, and I agree that Wilson is a classy guy, but what could anyone really do to him without ruining their image/career. If the coach has the power from ownership, you gotta play the game. All these guys have to answer to their coaches and owners.
If this was strictly about winning as Payton said, he would have benched Russ when they still had a real shot at the playoffs weeks ago. And the broncos wouldn’t have approached Russ about restructuring his contract right after after beating the SB contending Chiefs. Russ is an absolute man for keeping this private and letting Payton look like a child.
I like how Stidham stood with russ together as Sean chewed Russ out on the side line. He stood together with russ like "if you're yelling at him in front of everyone then you're yelling at both of us"
You don't have to be a Russell fan to realize the Broncos have handled this poorly. Every now and then a team or owners do that. I remember very vividly how Jay Gruden had a press conference where he tore apart RGIII. We all wondered why go public with such harsh and personal criticism. The man was in your locker room. Talk to him man to man. The Broncos should have handled this with Russell's camp privately and say something along the lines of: "this is where we are, this is what we want to do, it's not personal it's business. We want to keep this private and you have the options of responding to this by a, b, and c"
I mean, they did do that, Russ just didn't budge because... he doesn't have to and he has no reason to. It's no advantage to him, and Payton already wanted him gone even before this. Payton is acting extremely petulantly and I hope it costs Denver when they try to sign players in free agency and start having to answer questions like "so why wouldn't he pressure me about my contract if he's fine doing it to the starting QB?"
If Russell Wilson was the one crying about his contract and holding out and threatening to not play until he got a better deal on the contract he signed he would be the bad guy and be absolutely slaughtered by the press and the fans. But since it's the broncos trying to renage on his contract payments (that they signed willingly) it's classed as business and they are not being called out for what they are doing. The double standards here is unbelievable. Russell Wilson should just say fine bench me but your paying me what you owe me.
Most of these fans are jealous that A they can’t play football/have that athletic ability and B that these players get paid millions to do so.. so that’s why they act like that even tho the billionaires own football and make way more, they somehow sympathize with them more.. it’s weird and cringy
@@hallbrawlerspodcast5091 This isn't how you conduct business. You don't threaten a guy with benching just because you don't want to pay him the money AFTER a win. That's classless behavior that will have ripple effects on whether high-value free agents will want to sign with Denver.
@@Jaack303 Then don't * An incompetent* Russ has Mahomes stats right now under a new coach with 1 good receiver and no talented tight ends. That's not incompetent
@@Jaack303 If Wilson is incompetent for those field vision issues (which were well known before they signed them), then that also makes the team management incompetent. I'd argue even more than Wilson, who only took what someone was willing to pay. What kind of football organization doesn't do their scouting due diligence? What makes this a bad move now isn't that they are benching him and likely cutting him. It's the way the organization did it. When you factor in all the missteps over the last few years, the conclusion is that this is just a poorly run organization. They will probably suck just as bad next year and the year after that. I doubt Payton will be able to do much with the cap hit the Broncos will take for the next two years.
Treat players Professionally. He was addressing or confronting Russell in front of the cameras not caring who saw or heard him .The coach sets the tone for the players and the organization. His behavior and attitudes toward Russell may keep other players from going to play at Denver.
Is anyone surprised that a coach who incentivized his players to give concussions to other players is acting unprofessionally? With everything we know about concussions now a days and the impact they can have both the person and others around, he shouldn’t even be allowed in the league anymore
Payton has been unhinged the whole season. Everyone remembers what he said about Hackett. Hackett may have been a terrible HC, but you don’t go and make a public statement about it. He is still the coach that paid players to injure others and hasn’t changed.
100%. His attack on Hackett was so over the top unprofessional that you have to question Payton's overall judgment... And his reaming of Russ during the Lions game was absolutely the behavior of an unhinged person.
@@DamonHardin Could be... He had Brees and a lot of good players. He was also aggressive in his play calling, going for it on 4th down etc., before the league caught on to analytics. He deserves much of the blame for the Broncos season. Russ has been solid while Payton's play calling looks as if he wants Russ to fail. Wouldn't surprise me - if Broncos made playoffs Russ is likely back next season and Payton doesn't want that. He really is a quite an arrogant a$$hole...
The Denver Broncos are trying to make people forget how double sided they have been. The blatant disrespect they have given to Russel Wilson is absolutely embarrassing. They wanted him and now they are acting like he is a cancer. Embarrassing.
russell has played like trash both years hes been in denver. its so funny to see all the casuals that just look at stats and don’t actually watch the games. it shows
@@jaysonsmith7264You entirely missed the point. This isn’t just about Russel Wilson’s play on the field. This is about how the Broncos gave everything for him KNOWING where he was in his career and now they want to deflect blame and point fingers instead of fixing this in a professional manner.
@@jaysonsmith7264Its funny to see obese dudes on their couch who never played think that their eye test means more than mathematics and stats. By any metric, wilson has been an above average qb.
@MirglipEA Payton is a Bill parcells wanna be Brees got him 1 super bowl and he had four 7-9 seasons and Russ has never been suspended like Payton russ has been to 2 super Bowls and 9 pro bowls
Russ stats are way better then they were last season they just needed somebody to blame it’s not like they have a great roster on offense besides sutton
@@joshramirez7 I can see you've honed in on me. I'll pray for you. I don't craft replies as a way to serve or appease you. I can tell you're lonely so I hope you can get the attention you're craving. Ps. Real men have dogs.
u guys acting like russ is carrying the team and hes getting benched. its crazy. dude has made more money in the past 5 years then u will probably make in ur life. ill never feel bad for him
26 tds 8 interceptions 98% qb rating with crappy play calling, 70 pt defense vs Miami, but it’s RW’s fault, yes he may fumble but he doesn’t drop passes or give up 70 pts, Pathetic form and bad msg to the other players, if it happens to him, then it could happen to me….go KC, my new team. Pat Bowden would not be happy
With 400 yards and 5 touchdowns worth of drops by Jeudy and Sutton. Sutton is clutch af but he has the most drops on the team, Jeudy is gassed up despite having bricks for hands lmfao
It's not in the Bronco's best interest to discourage potential free agents, the way they're doing now. Insanity. This was a money move and a reflection of the coach that felt fine throwing a tantrum at a qb he clearly doesn't respect, to drive home the point he made in a number of smaller ways. Russ wasn't his hire or guy. Sean dislikes him. That was illustrated by the kissing babies remark, among others. Good luck, Russ. Here's hoping you find a better home for the remainder of your career. Some place that wants you and will build around your talents, for starters.
95 yards and 114 yards against the Chiefs is not high level. The only reason they went on a winning streak was because of the defense getting turnovers and playing lights out.
@@jerrman29I think their point is it’s not a good look for an organization to even talk about rescinding or restructuring a contract they negotiated offered and signed. Especially when these people are billionaires. The nickel dime part of it leaves a bad taste. There are a lot of teams who need QBs he will at least get a look from someone
@@RobertTrey-ov1lzCan’t blame the defense for putting up -15 yards against the worst team in the AFC….. Russ was decent but we did win because of defense. Do you know how many times we got the ball at the 50 yard line due to our defense and couldn’t get at the very least a field goal?
@@joewilliams1817 do y'all even have a running game? Is the worst team still the Jets? They have a good defense though and I think the Patriots have the worst record right now. It's a lot of bad teams this year so I can't keep up
RC had a point when he said Sean Payton had the right one. Some other people in Wilson's position would've given Payton a piece of their mind. As for the Chiefs' offense, so many people thought Eric Bieniemy was meaningless to what that unit did, but I think we're seeing that he was very important to what the offense was doing. I doubt we would see so many dropped passes if Bieniemy were still in KCMO.
Absolutely agree with them. As a Broncos fan I support and was hoping Wilson will be our QB. He’s a good player and get to much blame for the Broncos losses. Payton’s play calling has been bad some games. Respect to Russell Wilson and hope he stands up to Payton and shows him his fire and competitiveness.
That’s because he hasn’t shown his entire playbook as Russel can’t throw. Sean limited on the playbook due to Russell throwing limitations and seeing the field.
Russell Wilson has been in the league for 12 years and has a $245 million contract. If he's at the line reading the defense and doesn't like the play Hackett sent in, call an AUDIBLE and run the Right play. That's what Great QBs do.
If i am a qb or any other player, there is no possibility that i would play for this organization. The way he has been treated this entire season is completely unacceptable. Russell has kept his mouth closed the entire time. I think its time he spoke up and said enough is enough
Agree, it is clear that Eric Bieniemy was the man who maintained the discipline on that team and was under valued by the media! Andy Reid may be the Xs and Os genius, but clear he is not the discipline enforcer, Eric was because the Chiefs are imploding because lack of discipline!
Since October 22nd (Packers game) they’ve gone 6-3, before that 1-5. Russ did something during that time to bring people together because he’s the leader that they wanted. Dan and RC are 100% right. They’re treating him wrong and disrespecting him
Russell Wilson might actually be a good fit on the Broncos rival Las Vegas Raiders. Wilson might be able to pull a Joe Flacco-like come back, by just being consistent. The problem is that he is not all that consistent right now.
Problem too is broncos o line didn't help russ at all either. Ppl on their couches were blaming russ for fleeing too soon but they're on their couch watching on TV. They don't realize how big these lineman are. 6'3 ,6'4,6'5,6'6 and 300 to 350 lbs running ful speed and and landing on you. I'd love to see these couch qbs let this happen just once to them and see if they're gonna be comfortable in the pocket
I’m not a Russell Wilson guy, but I hope he signs with the Raiders (if he doesn’t return to Seattle) and go into the next season with huge chip on his shoulder.
Honestly if we had his numbers at QB this year we would have won at least 2-3 games we’ve already lost. Raiders offense had been so bad in some games, we just needed a QB to do something - anything to make a play.
Ryan Clark is, by far, the best analyst on tv regarding football. He is not politically correct but calls it like it is. I wish there were more of him. The next closest is James Jones, who appears on FS1 at time with Cowherd and Speak.
Sean Payton is the biggest reason the Broncos are in this position and if i was Russell Wilson when Sean Payton was yelling at him on the sidelines I would've snapped back at him and called him out after the game because that was so classless of Sean Payton
Payton's racism is showing with the treatment of Russell Wilson, like Ryan Clark said Payton never treated Brees that way & he acted the same as Wilson
Ryan Clark nailed it, when it came to the russell wilson situation, sean payton ain't never talked too Drew Brees like that, matter of fact he can do no wrong as far as sean was concerned
So you as former players say the way the Broncos handled this is not the NFL way to handle this!??? But when Players hold out because they want more $$ when they are still under a CONTRACT they signed you all are ok with this!?? Players holding teams hostage!! And Mr RC already put his foot in his mouth talking s… about Tua! I might be wrong about this but last I checked it’s an ABSOLUTE privilege to be on an NFL team no matter who you are or what position you play! This is what’s wrong with everything now with sports, give the players all the power and the coaches have 0! Everyone being way too SOFT about everything today! ESPN IS A TOTAL JOKE
The Waltons treat their employees like they don’t matter … so it’s no surprise that their head coach is allowed to disrespect his players. In the NFL, it’s going to catch up to them, and it feels like this franchise is doomed to be dysfunctional.
I think you're right, the Walton family has built their wealth on the backs of employees used as collateral, and now their coach is disrespectful to team members and bullying their QB. No surprise. I'm sure there are others on the team receiving the same treatment from this coach, but we see it the most around Russ. Payton is obviously insecure, weak, and an above average dirt bag. Russ is a class act that is an asset for any team that recognizes his talent.
Telling Russ that he will be benched if he doesn't void a $37 million injury guarantee from his contract is absolutely fucked. If I'm another player in the league, I would not want to sign with a team that treats their players like this. Sean Payton was a bush league coach in New Orleans and now is a bush league coach in Denver. Also, I have no dog in this fight, I'm a Browns fan.
Dan is absolutely 100% right! The broncos are acting like Russ have been playing bad all year when his stats are much, much better than last year SMH🤦🏾♂️.
Sean Paton failed here with not going with Wilson. Shows he cant adapt his skill set. He's hired to get the best out of all the players. Peyton could easily bolster the offensive line and late draft a few receiver prospects.
At the simplest level, that's just bad leadership 101. You don't chew out the leader of the team in front of everyone unless you have 0 respect for the man. It's personal and unprofessional.
You act like you have a pulse of the team. You ever think Payton can see how little the other guys respect him? So why are they going to pay $50M/yr to a guy who can't lead this team long-term.
Thank you Ryan 🙏🏾🙏🏾he never talk to Brees like these he never talk to that N.O defense like that and they was one of the worst all time get that man out of there
This show hit the nail on the head. Russell didn’t bow down and they in term hired Payton giving him the go to treat Russell like 💩 in order to run him off and save money.
It's okay to bench him for whatever reason, including a contract clause, but it's not okay to tell him why he's being benched and give him an option to take action to avoid said benching? What a weird take.
It's not that Payton wanted to sit him that's the issue. It's how he has been verbally disrespected and humiliated in the media and in public since day one.
This is not about football. Payton has a serious problem with Russ! I agree with clark that no matter what Russ did, Payton was going to find a problem with it. Russ is a stand-up guy and has handled himself in a professional matter at all times. I believe racist is in play here, being Dree kissed all babies not a problem there, right? Maybe the Walton family is okay with Payton behavior and wanted him to address Russ this way, I don't know...however there needs to be accountability in the Broncos office on how to deal with contract issues. However, the contract is being handled in a thug, unethical, racist and toxic atmosphere!!! This is unacceptable in all levels!!!
Wilson isn’t a baby here either. Remember it was his special treatment in Seattle that broke the legion of boom up. It was his special treatment in Denver that alienated him from his teammates. And his refusal to adjust his contract to a more team friendly deal - just shows what kind of “leader” he is…money, money, money. Me, me, me. Yeah I would take it in stride too if I was making $35M+ to sit on the bench. Wow. Such adversity. If he had adjusted his contract he’d be playing - looks like he values max money over winning and playing.
I wish Russ well in wherever he does, or whatever endeavors he pursues moving forward. Denver seems to never have accepted him, neither did Sean. Imo, Sean is an overrated coach and should be benched right beside Russ.. did Russ deserve some criticism, yes! But not the level of hatred, bashing, personal attacks, and disrespect he endured. Russ deserves better and I pray he has continued success in the future.
So didn't russ score 2 tds and 2 2 pt conversion to get them back in the game? But 2 players fumbled, one fumbled on the 1 yard line for nearly a td. Smh
Great conversation all around and I don't really have anything to add. Just want to say that RC is looking really good in that suit. Classy and, unfortunately, I'll never be able to pull off something that stylish and at the same time casually cool. Have a Happy New Year everyone!
As a Dolphins fan that was certainly sharing my share of RW Let's Ride memes last season, he certainly has performed way better this season. I mean, even during the 70-20 game he wasn't terrible and didn't throw 10 pick sixes or anything. I mean bench a guy because he's bad not because he didn't want to change his injury guarantee. Pathetic from the Broncos and Payton.
Russ isn't having a bad year at all . If you take the 2 games away that he threw 2 and 3 ints the man 24 TDs & 3 ints and still has a 100 qbr... It ain't Russ that's the problem
Sean Payton just clearly doesn't like Russel WIlson, that's a big part of it too.
MR.UNLIMITED!!!!!!!!
Did you watch the games? To many mistakes for that much money.
@@mattipps Russ doesn't fumble a ball to his feet these days, that thing goes sailing 5 yards away from him right towards a defender. Seen that a lot this year.
He want a white QB
Why would he? 1. Russ is washed which is why Seattle got rid of him. 2. He wasn't their first choice to begin with. They wanted Aaron Rodgers and only settled for Russ when they couldn't get him.
I agree with Ryan Clark about Sean Payton…he’s been more than just critical of Russ’ play he’s been disrespectful by the way he carries himself. Russ didn’t lose those games where the defense just lost the game. Despite Russ not putting up huge numbers(defense allowed a team to put up 70) it’s not solely on him, Payton’s play calling has also been questionable
He called the same lame plays with the Saints
Ryan clark is making his opinion based on the skin color of the two people involved.
He's a racist and nothing more.
Payton is running his offense which worked with Brees 5,6,7 years ago. The league is leaps and bounds past that time. Watching the NE game I'd say his play calling lost that game at the end when he went ultra conservative instead of staying aggressive which allowed them to get the lead.
@@roymartin3002
You can't call the right plays when your qb can't run them.
Payton’s play calling hasn’t been great but the simple fact is russ has played bad during must win games. If you actually watch the games you lnow
“YOU LUCKY YOU GOT THE RIGHT ONE!” Facts 🔥🔥
Ryan..you got that right❤
Because they know who they can play with
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Why RC is my fav analyst 🔥
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Thank you Dan O. and Ryan C. Sean P. would have NEVER EVER handled Drew B. like this. I used to think he was a good coach. CERTAINLY NOT ANYMORE. I’m glad Russell W. is handling this as a PROFESSIONAL , not with arrogance. He deserves to be treated better, even if his play is not consistently to everyone’s approval. It’s called RESPECT for another human.
RC had the best take I heard in awhile. Sean Payton is a whole sucker in this situation! He lucky Russ taking the high road
That’s why Payton is so triggered, he’s been pushing Wilson’s buttons all season and Wilson hasn’t flinched.
I kept wondering why he stayed calm
RC and Dan are 100% right. Thanks for pointing out that Sean Payton needs to be held to some kind of accountability. Calling plays the way he did for 3.5 quarters is not a way to reliably win and honestly, IMO, set Russ up for failure
Russ has been playing pretty decent the past 8 to 10 games but even with that I always thought the head coach was the first to blame whenever a team is playing poorly. Sean Payton knows this so he's trying to hurry and get all the fingers pointing at Russell Wilson
His play calling is all people need to know about the situation. They clearly have 0 trust in Russ to do anything other than hand the ball off or check down on every play. Which is not a knock on Russ, he can win you NFL games, Payton is just stubborn and won’t allow Russ to run an actual NFL level offence
Exactly
Its also possible that the coach sees this as the only safe way to play russ with the most success. He clesrly has limitations. And a coach with as much experience as SP likely has to try to work with what he got. Is it all russ' fault? No, but also if you look at what they gave up for him he clearly isnt living up to the investment. I wanted Russ to succeed, esp as a Broncos guy. But if your season is washed and you have a chance of taking a financial hit if he gets hurt playing in games that dont mean anything then it makes sense. Russ isnt the guy. Nothing personal against russ he has handled all this criticism with class. He really has. But at the end of the day its still business.
@@jamesbroomfield7799 Your bar for decent must be really low.
Sean Payton behaved like a bully this whole season. Constantly picking on Russell knowing that Russell is an extremely humble and God-fearing man and it’s not in his nature to go against authority.
awww... poor baby russ.
You're a clown.
FSP
He a grown man don’t gotta take disrespect
@@iguessthatsmehuh
Russell isn't a grown man.
Dude is leashed around by his wife.
Dan shredded this panel 😂 rightfully so. No back up qb that the want to start is better than Russ. But they’ll find out the hard way. Can’t wait to see what’s next for Wilson.
Even at this point in his career, Wilson is head and shoulders above Jarrett Stidham.
Ryan and Dan were on point. Great segment.
Protect Dan Orlovsky at all costs
Im so glad RC brought up how the head coach had acted throughout the whole season. He needs to be held to account. Players are paying attention to this. Good luck getting free agents, say want you want but the players know Russ is a good dude.
Yo fanboy…..talk to most of divaruss’s former team mates…..
You fool too easily…..
@olyokie he has no obligation to become best friends with his team mates, he has a family and he puts them first just like he should. People don't like him because they feel like he's fake, but I don't feel like he's fake he would be fake if he acted any other way then the nerdy football player he is.
No player should be disrespected and berated by their coach on national tv. This is insane. Keep it professional at all times; the Coach wants to move Russell .Denver will suffer with this Coach big time.
@@Dee-lw8nv
Hahaha another divaruss fanboy…..
Its always the coach eh?
Ya got not one but two HOF coaches dumping russ.
But hey Im sure you know way more about ball than Pete or Sean.
Your mancrush is showing…..
@@olyokie Pete thought his best days were behind him rather than him being a bad guy. Thus when the Broncos came in with a big package for him it made all the sense in the world to move on from him.
Dan is 💯 on this. Sean Peyton is an over hyped lying cheating man. Period.
I loved seeing him get knocked out year after year from the playoffs, can’t stand him at all.. it sucks it was at the expense of drew brees and the saints but Payton deserved to lose and he is indeed overrated and a chump in my eyes
@@Jalexander14lmao you sure about that? Broncos were 5-12 last year same team could end up 9-8 so yea wrong lol
@@the_traveling_texan It's more likely Denver will end up 7-10 this season. The new starting quarterback has career marks of 77 completions of 131 attempts for 926 yards with 6 touchdowns and 7 interceptions in four seasons.
When did he cheat?
Dang Right
Respect to Orlovsky, he knows how Wilson was treated was unfair and unprofessional.
Dude literally called for Russ to be benched and micromanaged last year after the Christmas game.
@@BuzzzdLightyearbenched is not disrespect and definitely not classless. Tf are you talking about?
Giving him $40 million a year is also unprofessional.
@@CorePathway and whose fault is that? Them right? Hold them accountable then.
🤬Sean Payton!
The only thing silly by the Broncos is pretending this is about football 😂.
So Payton was just supposed to go out there and say "yeah, we're benching him because he's costing us money and I don't like him."?
The bottom line always wins, it's a business.
@@DJP317STARand he was winning, the only reason this team didn’t win was the defense
@@DJP317STARno we’re actually cutting him and moving on. Most people can’t see it from coloradons perspective who go to a watch every game. Russ isn’t the quarterback that can elevate a team at this stage. He runs into sacks, can’t see over the line, not even to make basic slant throws. He plays well out of the pocket but that’s it. Management has not only decided to save money but to completely move on from the situation. Expect them to draft a QB in the first round this summer.
All I have to say is Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan were not humiliated like this on their new teams. Heck even Baker Mayfield was treated better in LA and we see what’s going on in Tampa. We get it’s a football decision, But let’s be honest…did anyone expect the broncos to win the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP or even make it to that game? no. Did we expect them to be fighting for a playoff spot at the end of the season after a horrible one in 2022, yes and that’s exactly where they are now. So this whole thing is odd to me because stats and record aside, this is exactly where we expected the broncos to be. Then when you look at Russ stats, hes outplaying Mahomes, Tua, Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen, the list goes on from a TD/INT perspective
Sean just never liked Russ from the beginning period and this was his way out.
Its Racism
Sean Payton lied about retiring from the Saints just to return a year later. Nothing he ever says or do should be trustworthy at this point.
I can’t even say his name but I’m glad they called out the Broncos HC. There are ways on how you go about things. He knows he can do that to Russ and get away with it.
Why can’t you ?
Yeah don’t say his name you might get sick
As a neutral fan here it’s just overwhelmingly obvious Sean Payton has serious ego issues. All he had to do was work WITH Wilson.
Wilson can't get to his third read, he WAS an amazing athlete and that hid all his problems. Now you're seeing how incapable he is when he's lost a step. You can't work with a losing recipe.
I can completely understand why Payton doesn't want Russell Wilson. Wilson is older and slower and his flaws are much more obvious. He was always limited as a QB, but Pete Carroll made that offense work around Russ. Pete Carroll gave Russ up too, remember?
He shouldn't have taken the job if he wasn't willing to abide Wilson for at least a couple of season until they had a chance to move on. He shouldn't have signed Wilson to a massive extension without seeing him play. And he can't threaten to bench players to try and leverage them to give up contracts THEY agreed to. I bet players are literally gonna demand more money to play in Denver. After all, how secure are your guarantees if the coach is willing to do THIS to the STARTING QB to leverage him on his contract?
Absolutely horrible.
Good luck attracting and retaining other talent when they know you won’t honor contracts you signed and will blame players for coaching issues. I hope Payton fails in every conceivable way.
They will end up paying him over 100 million for 2 bad seasons. I think they did plenty.
same
@@Eric-vz8znthey can afford it. If they didn’t want to take a risk on him they wouldn’t have signed him. It’s that simple.
This will effect nothing for free agents. This deal was made before Payton arrived in Denver and Russ will still get paid for next year! This kind of thing happens all over the NFL. Players know you get paid what you are worth. Fact is Russ isn’t worth that massive contract he signed.
@@DavidB-ui8pgI thought so too initially. But top tier free agents it likely will effect, which is what you ultimately would be concerned about.
Players who have multiple options will then start to break down to the other options before making a final decision; state taxes, QB’s, head coaches and culture.
Payton has put himself out on an island on both a head coach and his culture. Why would I go there if I’m getting the same money (if not more because of their horrible cap situation for the next two years) somewhere else?
They don’t have to keep Russ, but this move which is already bad looks even worse.
You can't treat people any kind of way. Russell will be better some where else. Let's go Russell. God's got you.
Think about it this way: Russell Wilson has the same number of TDs as Tua/Patrick Mahomes and is one TD behind Josh Allen/Jared Goff and if you think that the Broncos have better skill players outside of the Chiefs. Classless.
Most people in the comments don't watch the Broncos! Russ brought them back last week from a 16 point deficit and combined with two 2 point conversations to go into overtime! The play calling in OT by Sean Payton was horrible!
Less int's as well
I can also misconstrue stats to fit whatever narrative I want as well.
How many times has he been sacked?
How many fumbles does Russ have this season? How many sacks has he run himself into under perfect protection? Dude's washed. Get over it.
It's quite interesting how disparately Sean Payton has treated Russell Wilson (as compared to Drew Brees).
*Drew Brees* :
✔Soapbox Communicator
✔Corny
✔Undersized
✔Athletic
✔Non-Black QB
✔Serenaded by Sean Payton
✔Never Benched/Demoted by Sean Payton
*Russell WIlson* :
✔Soapbox Communicator
✔Corny
✔Undersized
✔Athletic
✔Black QB
✔Berated by Sean Payton
✔Rapidly Benched/Demoted by Sean Payton
Bottom Line: Wilson and Brees are very similar, yet Payton made it a point to treat them very differently.
I find that very interesting.
Sean Payton will do anything to try and distract from the fact that he's a bad coach.
2 weeks ago broncos country “Sean is our savior” this fan base is so toxic lol
@@the_traveling_texanbro these aren’t broncos fans it’s simple people defending Russ haven’t watched a game this season.
As a bronco fan Russ deserves a better team that’s gonna treat him right and that’s gonna lead him in the right direction to win a Super Bowl I wish him nothing but the best in the future 🙌
well he will be out of the NFL in 2 years... soooooo
@@drkaymotorsports Idiot take for 400 please, Alex.
LOL !!!!!
When you go 0-11 on fourth downs, can’t score in the end zone and can’t scramble or make plays to secure the game.
As a broncos fan this is the best move for the broncos. Crusty Russ has to go
Finally people holding Sean Payton accountable
Sean Payton is doomed from here on out. Whatever you sew you reap.
He was mediocre with no brees and will be mediocre in Denver. Thug
DONT CARE FOR PAYTON BUT HATE YOU MORE !!!!
Exactly
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I'm not the biggest Russell fan but put some respect on his name he is a class act and definitely dont deserve this bs after turning their whole year around.
Turning around? The Broncos are 8-9 and will miss the playoffs AGAIN.
@@daveclark8337Russell Wilson will be the Comeback POY winner this year.
@@123slasher.16 Just because Russ went from 5-12 last year to 7-8 this year doesn't make him Comeback Player of the Year.
😂😆🤣😆😆🤣@@123slasher.16
@@123slasher.16 Did you see Joe Flacco COMEBACK from Retirement off his couch and put up 37 points on the Jets last night? That what the Broncos were hoping Russ could do.
Ryan Clark talking facts 💯 👏
Loved when he said" Sean you lucky you got the right one" because Sean not talking to Lamar Jackson or Deshaun Watson like that. Russell just a class act.
@@TampaAries I hear what he's saying, and I agree that Wilson is a classy guy, but what could anyone really do to him without ruining their image/career. If the coach has the power from ownership, you gotta play the game. All these guys have to answer to their coaches and owners.
@@TampaAriesshit he ain’t even do jameis like that lbvs
@@scratchpenny yeah I agree. Russell handled that well.
@@TampaAries Why? what is lamar or deshaun going to do. Go all thug on him.
If this was strictly about winning as Payton said, he would have benched Russ when they still had a real shot at the playoffs weeks ago. And the broncos wouldn’t have approached Russ about restructuring his contract right after after beating the SB contending Chiefs. Russ is an absolute man for keeping this private and letting Payton look like a child.
I like how Stidham stood with russ together as Sean chewed Russ out on the side line. He stood together with russ like "if you're yelling at him in front of everyone then you're yelling at both of us"
its funny how you just made that uo about Stidham lol
JS is always standing with the hc or qbc.
He wasn't standing with russ you clown.
You’re talking about the Qb coach
@@easymoneypromotions 57 people just liked a comment talking about a entirely fictional event. Good job internet
You don't have to be a Russell fan to realize the Broncos have handled this poorly. Every now and then a team or owners do that. I remember very vividly how Jay Gruden had a press conference where he tore apart RGIII. We all wondered why go public with such harsh and personal criticism. The man was in your locker room. Talk to him man to man. The Broncos should have handled this with Russell's camp privately and say something along the lines of: "this is where we are, this is what we want to do, it's not personal it's business. We want to keep this private and you have the options of responding to this by a, b, and c"
They're cutting him. That's public.
Russ told the media though lls
I mean, they did do that, Russ just didn't budge because... he doesn't have to and he has no reason to. It's no advantage to him, and Payton already wanted him gone even before this. Payton is acting extremely petulantly and I hope it costs Denver when they try to sign players in free agency and start having to answer questions like "so why wouldn't he pressure me about my contract if he's fine doing it to the starting QB?"
If Russell Wilson was the one crying about his contract and holding out and threatening to not play until he got a better deal on the contract he signed he would be the bad guy and be absolutely slaughtered by the press and the fans. But since it's the broncos trying to renage on his contract payments (that they signed willingly) it's classed as business and they are not being called out for what they are doing. The double standards here is unbelievable. Russell Wilson should just say fine bench me but your paying me what you owe me.
That’s the difference of being in the power position. What owner of a company acts like his employees? You should hold yourself to a higher standard
have u never had a job before?😂
You have no idea how contracts work😂😂😂😂 do you
Most of these fans are jealous that A they can’t play football/have that athletic ability and B that these players get paid millions to do so.. so that’s why they act like that even tho the billionaires own football and make way more, they somehow sympathize with them more.. it’s weird and cringy
@@hallbrawlerspodcast5091 This isn't how you conduct business. You don't threaten a guy with benching just because you don't want to pay him the money AFTER a win. That's classless behavior that will have ripple effects on whether high-value free agents will want to sign with Denver.
The way they treated players like Von Miller a few years back. The way they are now treating Russ. I never thought I'd be done being a Bronco fan.
Than don’t, leave, root for another team if benching and cutting a incompetent qb aside from a few highs is the last straw than leave
@@Jaack303
Then don't *
An incompetent*
Russ has Mahomes stats right now under a new coach with 1 good receiver and no talented tight ends. That's not incompetent
He can’t even see the middle of the field so that eliminates half the receiver’s opportunity, it’s very easily partly Russ’s fault
@@Jaack303 If Wilson is incompetent for those field vision issues (which were well known before they signed them), then that also makes the team management incompetent. I'd argue even more than Wilson, who only took what someone was willing to pay. What kind of football organization doesn't do their scouting due diligence?
What makes this a bad move now isn't that they are benching him and likely cutting him. It's the way the organization did it. When you factor in all the missteps over the last few years, the conclusion is that this is just a poorly run organization. They will probably suck just as bad next year and the year after that. I doubt Payton will be able to do much with the cap hit the Broncos will take for the next two years.
LOL F the Donkeys and F city of Denver 🤣Seattle Seahawks all day
Yeah Sean definitely acting wild towards Russ since day one, hostile since day one. Russ was playing better, defense was trash too, its weird.
So Russ gets no blame at all lol do y’all ppl actually watch the games or just the box score stats
@@jayalmo8831nobody said he gets no blame dummy calm down.
Treat players Professionally. He was addressing or confronting Russell in front of the cameras not caring who saw or heard him .The coach sets the tone for the players and the organization. His behavior and attitudes toward Russell may keep other players from going to play at Denver.
Sean Payton's public treatment of Russell Wilson is what's UNPROFESSIONAL!!
Yes when I saw him screaming at him on the field I knew then he had to go
LOL !!!!!
As a broncos fan - I don’t see too many talking about if they’re satisfied with head coach.
I am perfectly happy with him
FSP
Is anyone surprised that a coach who incentivized his players to give concussions to other players is acting unprofessionally? With everything we know about concussions now a days and the impact they can have both the person and others around, he shouldn’t even be allowed in the league anymore
After "sweep the leg" that should've been the end of him coaching in the NFL.
very well said
That was the defensive coordinator wing nut
It's called business and life snowflake ❄️🌈 life's tough get a helmet 🪖
@@nostoneunturned7641 he knew very well what was going on. How could he not?? It was his team. Go drink a beer 🍺
Payton has been unhinged the whole season. Everyone remembers what he said about Hackett. Hackett may have been a terrible HC, but you don’t go and make a public statement about it. He is still the coach that paid players to injure others and hasn’t changed.
💯
100%. His attack on Hackett was so over the top unprofessional that you have to question Payton's overall judgment... And his reaming of Russ during the Lions game was absolutely the behavior of an unhinged person.
@@kyledavis635 Really beginning to think his SB win was just because he had a good team and nothing more. They won it in spite of him.
He was trying to do that to deflect blame from Russ. But he was wrong. Russ was definitely part of problem.
@@DamonHardin Could be... He had Brees and a lot of good players. He was also aggressive in his play calling, going for it on 4th down etc., before the league caught on to analytics. He deserves much of the blame for the Broncos season. Russ has been solid while Payton's play calling looks as if he wants Russ to fail. Wouldn't surprise me - if Broncos made playoffs Russ is likely back next season and Payton doesn't want that. He really is a quite an arrogant a$$hole...
The Denver Broncos are trying to make people forget how double sided they have been. The blatant disrespect they have given to Russel Wilson is absolutely embarrassing. They wanted him and now they are acting like he is a cancer. Embarrassing.
russell has played like trash both years hes been in denver. its so funny to see all the casuals that just look at stats and don’t actually watch the games. it shows
@@jaysonsmith7264You entirely missed the point. This isn’t just about Russel Wilson’s play on the field. This is about how the Broncos gave everything for him KNOWING where he was in his career and now they want to deflect blame and point fingers instead of fixing this in a professional manner.
@@jaysonsmith7264Its funny to see obese dudes on their couch who never played think that their eye test means more than mathematics and stats. By any metric, wilson has been an above average qb.
News update: life changes
@MirglipEA Payton is a Bill parcells wanna be Brees got him 1 super bowl and he had four 7-9 seasons and Russ has never been suspended like Payton russ has been to 2 super Bowls and 9 pro bowls
Ryan Clark speaking 🔊 facts 💯
Russ stats are way better then they were last season they just needed somebody to blame it’s not like they have a great roster on offense besides sutton
Jeudy bro
@@Gizmosnitto13he’s a wr 2 and was drafted top 20 😂
@@Gizmosnitto13 Edward Scissorhands, can't tap dance Jeudy? Yeah, right.... 🙄
Stats lie bud lol
The roster is not great. It's mid at best 😂
Dan Orlovsky and Ryan Clark nail it!
No they didn't
@@JBisDiddy4lyfeWow, this is a really well thought out response. You made some excellent points!
@@joshramirez7 I can see you've honed in on me. I'll pray for you. I don't craft replies as a way to serve or appease you. I can tell you're lonely so I hope you can get the attention you're craving.
Ps. Real men have dogs.
I feel bad for Russell Wilson, Broncos should be ashamed of themselves & Sean Payton overrated self.
How u feel bad if he isn’t living up
u guys acting like russ is carrying the team and hes getting benched. its crazy. dude has made more money in the past 5 years then u will probably make in ur life. ill never feel bad for him
@@jaysonsmith7264 that’s why your poor- stop looking at wat other people focus on your own- the way they did him was wrong regardless of money
They haven't had a winning season or made the playoffs since he been there
You feel bad for a guy who’s played like an average at best qb but made $150 million? Lol what?
26 tds 8 interceptions 98% qb rating with crappy play calling, 70 pt defense vs Miami, but it’s RW’s fault, yes he may fumble but he doesn’t drop passes or give up 70 pts, Pathetic form and bad msg to the other players, if it happens to him, then it could happen to me….go KC, my new team. Pat Bowden would not be happy
With 400 yards and 5 touchdowns worth of drops by Jeudy and Sutton. Sutton is clutch af but he has the most drops on the team, Jeudy is gassed up despite having bricks for hands lmfao
Its obvious you don't watch the games.
@@drkaymotorsports I haven't watched all but Sutton and Judy keeps on dropping passes to much the few time I have watched them.
Man, if Dan wasn't on TV he would've cussed Mike T TF out 😂
It's not in the Bronco's best interest to discourage potential free agents, the way they're doing now. Insanity. This was a money move and a reflection of the coach that felt fine throwing a tantrum at a qb he clearly doesn't respect, to drive home the point he made in a number of smaller ways. Russ wasn't his hire or guy. Sean dislikes him. That was illustrated by the kissing babies remark, among others.
Good luck, Russ. Here's hoping you find a better home for the remainder of your career. Some place that wants you and will build around your talents, for starters.
The Broncos are hoping to bring in another high Level QB not realizing that no QB worth the money will want to play here if this is the treatment 😂
95 yards and 114 yards against the Chiefs is not high level. The only reason they went on a winning streak was because of the defense getting turnovers and playing lights out.
@@jerrman29that same defense can be blamed for their losing streak as well. They couldn't stop anybody and gave up 70 points to Miami.
@@jerrman29I think their point is it’s not a good look for an organization to even talk about rescinding or restructuring a contract they negotiated offered and signed. Especially when these people are billionaires. The nickel dime part of it leaves a bad taste. There are a lot of teams who need QBs he will at least get a look from someone
@@RobertTrey-ov1lzCan’t blame the defense for putting up -15 yards against the worst team in the AFC….. Russ was decent but we did win because of defense. Do you know how many times we got the ball at the 50 yard line due to our defense and couldn’t get at the very least a field goal?
@@joewilliams1817 do y'all even have a running game? Is the worst team still the Jets? They have a good defense though and I think the Patriots have the worst record right now. It's a lot of bad teams this year so I can't keep up
RC had a point when he said Sean Payton had the right one. Some other people in Wilson's position would've given Payton a piece of their mind. As for the Chiefs' offense, so many people thought Eric Bieniemy was meaningless to what that unit did, but I think we're seeing that he was very important to what the offense was doing. I doubt we would see so many dropped passes if Bieniemy were still in KCMO.
Absolutely agree with them. As a Broncos fan I support and was hoping Wilson will be our QB. He’s a good player and get to much blame for the Broncos losses. Payton’s play calling has been bad some games. Respect to Russell Wilson and hope he stands up to Payton and shows him his fire and competitiveness.
his off the field act was horrible until Sean showed up.
@@daveonezero6258so was his play and that’s barely improved
That’s because he hasn’t shown his entire playbook as Russel can’t throw. Sean limited on the playbook due to Russell throwing limitations and seeing the field.
Too late now. He's a goner. The last two seasons would've been the time to show that fire and competitiveness.
Russell Wilson has been in the league for 12 years and has a $245 million contract. If he's at the line reading the defense and doesn't like the play Hackett sent in, call an AUDIBLE and run the Right play. That's what Great QBs do.
If i am a qb or any other player, there is no possibility that i would play for this organization. The way he has been treated this entire season is completely unacceptable. Russell has kept his mouth closed the entire time. I think its time he spoke up and said enough is enough
Preach RC. Payton been acting like he's won like 5 rings like humble yourself sir
What? Lol he acts like he wants to win and his players aren’t it lol yall out here wil’n lol
I LOVE THAT YOU CALLED HIM A THUG!!
I CAUGHT THAT REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY!! R.C.
Agree, it is clear that Eric Bieniemy was the man who maintained the discipline on that team and was under valued by the media! Andy Reid may be the Xs and Os genius, but clear he is not the discipline enforcer, Eric was because the Chiefs are imploding because lack of discipline!
Thank you RC. Hit every single nail on the head
I agree with these guys; at the end of the day, they did Russ dirty! Sean Payton handled this whole thing badly….
Since October 22nd (Packers game) they’ve gone 6-3, before that 1-5. Russ did something during that time to bring people together because he’s the leader that they wanted.
Dan and RC are 100% right. They’re treating him wrong and disrespecting him
Russell Wilson might actually be a good fit on the Broncos rival Las Vegas Raiders. Wilson might be able to pull a Joe Flacco-like come back, by just being consistent. The problem is that he is not all that consistent right now.
True, but he needs to punish the broncos 1st. Don’t sign anywhere, force them to pay him.
Problem too is broncos o line didn't help russ at all either. Ppl on their couches were blaming russ for fleeing too soon but they're on their couch watching on TV. They don't realize how big these lineman are. 6'3 ,6'4,6'5,6'6 and 300 to 350 lbs running ful speed and and landing on you. I'd love to see these couch qbs let this happen just once to them and see if they're gonna be comfortable in the pocket
I’m not a Russell Wilson guy, but I hope he signs with the Raiders (if he doesn’t return to Seattle) and go into the next season with huge chip on his shoulder.
@@Bman32xwriting was on the wall new ownership and new coach….is what it is
Honestly if we had his numbers at QB this year we would have won at least 2-3 games we’ve already lost. Raiders offense had been so bad in some games, we just needed a QB to do something - anything to make a play.
Ryan Clark is, by far, the best analyst on tv regarding football. He is not politically correct but calls it like it is. I wish there were more of him. The next closest is James Jones, who appears on FS1 at time with Cowherd and Speak.
Y’all were saying they had WALMART MONEY when they signed him and Sean Payton both year after year so why they tryna cheat him out of 37 million!
The NFL is a trash business that’s why
That’s the Wal-Mart way
Salary cap. The system literally doesn’t make sense anymore.
@@Bman32xexactly. If this were baseball none of this would even be happening. He’d be playing and no one would care
Sean doesn't like russ
Sean Payton is the biggest reason the Broncos are in this position and if i was Russell Wilson when Sean Payton was yelling at him on the sidelines I would've snapped back at him and called him out after the game because that was so classless of Sean Payton
I watch dans takes because he is one of the best imo
Sean Payton HAS a Napoleonic Complex! A legend in his own mind!
I agree…I hope he goes to a program that works with his abilities because he can still play.
Ryan Clark is the MAN! Preach Bro! PREACH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
100percent agree Payton treatment of Wilson is bad
Payton's racism is showing with the treatment of Russell Wilson, like Ryan Clark said Payton never treated Brees that way & he acted the same as Wilson
Ryan Clark nailed it, when it came to the russell wilson situation, sean payton ain't never talked too Drew Brees like that, matter of fact he can do no wrong as far as sean was concerned
How would he know how he talked to Drew Brees they were NEVER on the same team
So you as former players say the way the Broncos handled this is not the NFL way to handle this!??? But when Players hold out because they want more $$ when they are still under a CONTRACT they signed you all are ok with this!?? Players holding teams hostage!! And Mr RC already put his foot in his mouth talking s… about Tua! I might be wrong about this but last I checked it’s an ABSOLUTE privilege to be on an NFL team no matter who you are or what position you play! This is what’s wrong with everything now with sports, give the players all the power and the coaches have 0! Everyone being way too SOFT about everything today! ESPN IS A TOTAL JOKE
I loved Ryan's take
Last year “Hackett was too chipper and nice”
This year “Sean is a thug”
Sports talk and fans are nuts lol
The Waltons treat their employees like they don’t matter … so it’s no surprise that their head coach is allowed to disrespect his players. In the NFL, it’s going to catch up to them, and it feels like this franchise is doomed to be dysfunctional.
I think you're right, the Walton family has built their wealth on the backs of employees used as collateral, and now their coach is disrespectful to team members and bullying their QB. No surprise. I'm sure there are others on the team receiving the same treatment from this coach, but we see it the most around Russ. Payton is obviously insecure, weak, and an above average dirt bag. Russ is a class act that is an asset for any team that recognizes his talent.
Telling Russ that he will be benched if he doesn't void a $37 million injury guarantee from his contract is absolutely fucked. If I'm another player in the league, I would not want to sign with a team that treats their players like this. Sean Payton was a bush league coach in New Orleans and now is a bush league coach in Denver.
Also, I have no dog in this fight, I'm a Browns fan.
Dan is absolutely 100% right! The broncos are acting like Russ have been playing bad all year when his stats are much, much better than last year SMH🤦🏾♂️.
Like RC said, luckily PAYTON was HOSTILE to the RIGHT one!
Sean Paton failed here with not going with Wilson. Shows he cant adapt his skill set. He's hired to get the best out of all the players. Peyton could easily bolster the offensive line and late draft a few receiver prospects.
At the simplest level, that's just bad leadership 101. You don't chew out the leader of the team in front of everyone unless you have 0 respect for the man. It's personal and unprofessional.
you must have never played
You act like you have a pulse of the team. You ever think Payton can see how little the other guys respect him? So why are they going to pay $50M/yr to a guy who can't lead this team long-term.
@@drkaymotorsportsAnd you must have been coached by $#$holes.
Did it many times that should of stopped months ago
Protect Mr. Clark at ALL COSTS AT ALL TIMES!!!💯💯💯💯💯
They did him dirty. Plain and simple. I'm guessing the truth of the situation will surface eventually.
Thank you Ryan 🙏🏾🙏🏾he never talk to Brees like these he never talk to that N.O defense like that and they was one of the worst all time get that man out of there
Ima broncos fan for life but Ryan Clark shout out to you for that thug line lmao
Great take from RC
Broncos and Sean Payton BETTER cook next year 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Not going to happen. They now have no QB, terrible cap situation, and draft situation is not great
They won’t. Payton is washed and has been overrated since their defense carried them to that super bowl
They cooked this year lol
Agree with you, completely. Sean Payton is a bad match for Russ and the Bronco team.😊
Sean Payton = Urban Meyer
Sean Payton = Mike Martz
Now that's a first I never heard that one before Sean Payton urban Meyer oh snap
This show hit the nail on the head. Russell didn’t bow down and they in term hired Payton giving him the go to treat Russell like 💩 in order to run him off and save money.
It's okay to bench him for whatever reason, including a contract clause, but it's not okay to tell him why he's being benched and give him an option to take action to avoid said benching? What a weird take.
Truly... at RC . When u said that Sean Payton treated him, Russell Wilson, as a thug.
I agree with everything you said.
Let’s just call it what it was - that sideline treatment was verbal ABUSE.
stick to soccer then
Respect is due to dog, let alone every other living creature. So when you disrespect someone what does that do, for every action there's a reaction
This is exactly why players holdout for better contracts. Teams are just as greedy as players.
It's not that Payton wanted to sit him that's the issue. It's how he has been verbally disrespected and humiliated in the media and in public since day one.
This is not about football. Payton has a serious problem with Russ! I agree with clark that no matter what Russ did, Payton was going to find a problem with it.
Russ is a stand-up guy and has handled himself in a professional matter at all times.
I believe racist is in play here, being Dree kissed all babies not a problem there, right?
Maybe the Walton family is okay with Payton behavior and wanted him to address Russ this way, I don't know...however there needs to be accountability in the Broncos office on how to deal with contract issues. However, the contract is being handled in a thug, unethical, racist and toxic atmosphere!!!
This is unacceptable in all levels!!!
Yeah, I don't think it is about football either really. He has a personal problem with him, it sounds like. For whatever reason.
Wilson isn’t a baby here either. Remember it was his special treatment in Seattle that broke the legion of boom up. It was his special treatment in Denver that alienated him from his teammates. And his refusal to adjust his contract to a more team friendly deal - just shows what kind of “leader” he is…money, money, money. Me, me, me. Yeah I would take it in stride too if I was making $35M+ to sit on the bench. Wow. Such adversity. If he had adjusted his contract he’d be playing - looks like he values max money over winning and playing.
I wish Russ well in wherever he does, or whatever endeavors he pursues moving forward. Denver seems to never have accepted him, neither did Sean. Imo, Sean is an overrated coach and should be benched right beside Russ.. did Russ deserve some criticism, yes! But not the level of hatred, bashing, personal attacks, and disrespect he endured. Russ deserves better and I pray he has continued success in the future.
SUPER FACTS!!! SPEAK ON RC!!!
So didn't russ score 2 tds and 2 2 pt conversion to get them back in the game? But 2 players fumbled, one fumbled on the 1 yard line for nearly a td. Smh
Haven't had a winning season or made the playoffs toxic in the locker room
You didn't watch the rest of the game? 🤣
Thank you, RC and Dan. I totally agree.💯
Sean definitely needs to take full accountability for his def coach causing them to lose in a manner that is embarrassing
Great conversation all around and I don't really have anything to add. Just want to say that RC is looking really good in that suit. Classy and, unfortunately, I'll never be able to pull off something that stylish and at the same time casually cool. Have a Happy New Year everyone!
As a Dolphins fan that was certainly sharing my share of RW Let's Ride memes last season, he certainly has performed way better this season. I mean, even during the 70-20 game he wasn't terrible and didn't throw 10 pick sixes or anything. I mean bench a guy because he's bad not because he didn't want to change his injury guarantee. Pathetic from the Broncos and Payton.
you obviously don't watch the games. Best stick to the box scores.
Russ isn't having a bad year at all . If you take the 2 games away that he threw 2 and 3 ints the man 24 TDs & 3 ints and still has a 100 qbr... It ain't Russ that's the problem
Why is "Bountygate" Payton still coaching?!!?