I wish I had seen this before making the video, and I may need to do a follow up. If you wanna see how bad it is, the wife's instagram is here: instagram.com/p/CuxSfbCNRdf/ It's Honestly gross: "you should've reached out directly to the weird ass woman sexualizing your husband", "you should've complained in a way that I wanted!" You'll need to scroll down, as Insta does a good job of hiding abuse.... but people are insane. You'll were milking off Booktok a few months ago.. his team were making all sort of thirst traps and encouraging their followers to do the same BUT now y'll wnna switch up since y'll got the followers and the attention y'll needed... U are putting one individual on blast But not his team who started this whole shenanigans.. gosh I hate u miserable old hags 😵💫 It’s crazy how Kierra reached out to you and you still continued your racist rant against her. Girl you might as well apologize right now because what you did was distasteful af. To include a creator such as kierra in your little whiney rant when she has done nothing but make both your man AND you more money and popularity but used her platform and even played along with it. Shame on you You targeted a black woman on purpose. And your husband is not that attractive. I discovered how racist hockey was a long time ago! 0/10 don’t recommend! You are weaponizing your white woman tears. You could have simply asked her to take the video down and not created all this fake outlash. If you wanted to set a boundary you could have done so without attacking any creators, and done just that set the boundary and expectation without creating drama especially with a black woman. I’m sure you won’t see it that way but you Karen’s never do. If you were truly interested in a greater conversation you would have done this in a different way but you aren’t, your looking for attention hints the comments being left on for continued public opinion and attention to the matter. a white woman portraying a black woman in a negative manner and playing victim????? gasp! its never happened before 😧 so shocking! Girl didn’t you call your husband the “ panty, dropper of book talk “ just say he most likely cheated and you don’t like it keep it pushing We should just go back to when no one cared who you or your husband were. The Kraken (including your husband) fully took advantage of the BookTok hype and now that you got the views and the followers it’s a problem. You could have just never participated. Glad to have you out of my sphere honestly. The Savanna Banana’s would never. Not your husband cheating so now you don't want people posting about him 😂 Everyone in this comment section should recognize this tactic for what it truly is: RACISM BEING WEAPOINZIE BY A WHITE WOMAN. She did not have a problem with Kierra's content because booktok was giving the team a lot of attention. More attention = more fans = more money to support the team and more money for her and her husband. Now that its over, booktok fans are still around and I suspect there is an uptick of Black Women and Women of Color are shooting their shot in the DMS and/or approaching her husband. By attacking Kierra, she's sending a message to everyone to stay away from her man. By attacking Kierra, she's using racist dog whistles that white women have been using since the dawn of time. #realtea So your husband and his team profit off a black woman all season long and now you’re sending racist ass hockey fans after her. You should be ashamed. This goes on, and on, and on.
Aside from the obviously bad situation here, it is remarkable to me how many of those commenters believe that a hockey player's popularity and exposure on social media has any bearing at all on the success of their hockey career. Every player out there is uncomfortable because they all know there's a younger, fast, hungry, player, looking over their shoulder 100% of the time. Its one of the reasons NHL players are so reluctant to take time off from injury. The average career is what, 4-5 years, right? Social media doesn't have anything to do with that, unless GM's are sitting around the table saying "Well, I think this guys' social media success will really help us get a few more in the win column and make us a playoff team. Have you seen the number of followers he's got? We could be a contender next year!"
What really made me mad is the random booktoker tried to claim she made the Seattle Kraken and nobody knew about the team until her irrelevant page posted about them
haha that was certainly interesting. People online tend to vastly over-estimate their own influence. I've done it before too. You get so much positive feedback when you're a creator it's easy to get a BIG head quickly, esp when you are being flown out or whatever
@@EckHockeywhat was the most sickening to me is that after some back and forth(and not backing down), race, masculinity, and hockey culture were all brought into it. It's abuse of privacy in the least, and full blown harassment in many of the "fans" cases. People calling Wennberg's wife a bi**h and many more going at her. Just people who have abused a platform, have grown their own pathetic voices, pushing them on innocent people.
Takes a hell of an ego for some tictoc rando to take credit for a team's for a team's growth in popularity. Tictoc is a vexation to the spirit & efficient idiot maker.
Making sexual comments under their child’s photos is beyond sickening. Then to gaslight the wife when she expresses that she’s uncomfortable is beyond insane. Only on TikTok will you find these vile disgusting people. Feel really bad for the family
For normal people, these actions are despicable and gross. But for TikTok, it’s just another Tuesday. The amount of brain rot created on TikTok is truly unparalleled in human history.
It's not just TikTok, it's all of social media. Twitter, all those on Twitter who ran to whatever Facebook/Meta is doing, ig, all of it. It is the general lack of empathy or humility that some people have.
the mistake here is thinking that Tiktok CREATED any of this. Tiktok cannot create anything on it's own, it only reflects the humans using it. All of this stuff already exists in the human psyche, Tiktok just amplifies it and augments it...
Parasocial relationships need to be better understood by the public so it can be addressed early by loved ones, and maybe these wackos can get their mental health problems addressed. Just because you watch someone on tv or youtube or tiktok, there's nothing between you and them. Your feelings for them are based solely on your idea of them. not an actual relationship. This behavior is a precursor to stalking. To add, the internet has made people way way to comfortable with saying whatever they want consequence free.
@@leatherbound4233Says “Mr.leatherbound4233” 😂 Whats wrong with discussing behavior? You literally just discussed bad behavior… Unless you meant Disgusting. 😂
@@ruthsteen6943 Wow did you miss the boat! If you read my statement correctly you would know I was referring to the a-hole haters having to use their real names. No hiding behind anonymity.
It’s worth mentioning that I’m seeing a lot of this shit on Twitter too. Girls absolutely obsessed with hockey players in a way that like the wife here said, if you reversed the genders would totally be viewed differently. Most of these players are married or have a gf, this is gross behaviour
Eh, I think there's a huge difference if these comments are actively directed at the players or if there's a niche of people talking amongst themselves. Is it still weird? Sure. But they aren't actually trying to get the players' attention, unlike the people in this video.
Chicks get to be gross and sexual harass dudes its a double standard our society accepts , When I was a teenager I won't even tell you how many women in their 20s and 30s and girls moms who I hung out with or dated would make it very known they WANTED it from me . If that were older dudes doing that to teen girls even in the 80s or early 90s would it be accepted ? NO .
@@somewherenowhere676they aren’t in a private setting, it’s all public, and they ARE trying to get the player & wife’s attention by posting & harassing them directly.
It’s just insane that people are trying to defend this. It started out relatively calm but very quickly turned to harassment. Just goes to show how things can go south in an instant. Hope Alex’s family is doing alright.
The problem with TikTok, and to some extent social media in general, is that it gives a platform to the scum of the earth that ten years ago would have been ostracized from society
Professional athletes know the insanity of social media. I wonder why they still promote themselves on these platforms? Money? Team recognition? Not worth the risk in my opinion.
Unfortunately, this sort of behavior has been around long before social media ever existed. I have been seeing this sort of behavior on all sorts of discussion boards since the early 1990s. They were rife with bullying, harassment, and every form of hate you can think of. It got so out of hand, that many sites just took down their boards. The scum just moved on to other places, like social media and comments sections of online articles.
@@m____w____6981Money has to be a big part of it. As an athlete your career can be over any day, nothing is guaranteed. Successful athletes are the ones who can take 5-10 years of money and fame in the big leagues and invest it into a new business they can transition into when their career is over. If you’re a good looking hockey player and can pick up a couple million Instagram followers that translates into some big marketing paycheques when your hockey career starts to dry up.
It is as someone who uses Tiktok, that’s pretty much all it is, I’m usually there for the funny video skits and other funny videos, everything else is either cringe, racist or what’s happening in the video
I’m in my late 20’s and hate TikTok, don’t have it on my phone and don’t use it. The people on there are some of the most judgemental and ignorant people I’ve seen online. They defend vile behaviour regardless of education or experience. Thankfully not everyone likes TT, I hope that number grows
I hope I am wrong, but what I also find incredibly frustrating about this is that this situation is likely going to further perpetuate negative stereotypes that some male fans typically have about female hockey fans. This niche group on TikTok who blatantly sexually harass players should not have a platform.
it's easy enough to see the difference between a normal female fan and whatever it is this group of women is doing. Any guy holding it against all female fans is an asshole
As a female, I agree that some of the players are attractive. But I’d never go out of my way to post something sexualizing them. Some people get too comfortable with their platforms. I get called a puck bunny all the time, and booktok isnt helping my case.
Reading booktok-er's toxic comments and seeing "what team should we switch to now" and just praying they don't pick any of mine🙏 The whole situation is disgusting, especially making it about race when Felicia was simply asking POLITELY for them to stop sexualizing her husband once things started going too far... Not to mention that screenshot was clearly pointing out the nasty comment and NOT just trying to put blame on that one creator. 🙄 People have no common sense I stg. Hope that the Wennbergs are okay after all this and that it dies down soon 💙
I saw a post on Twitter where these people had decided that the Blackhawks are their new team. Part of me was like that tracks with Chicago’s recent history but the other part of me feels sorry for Bedard if that’s true. The kid has enough to worry about
I’m glad they didn’t pick the Preds, also this is insane, like he’s a real person not a character in their books to fantasize about, even if he was single I doubt he’d be interested in these weirdos.
@@Nichaelas Doing what to other teams ? Just delete social media and problem solved. But we cant solve problems, then what would the plebs whine about eh .
I had an argument with one of the booktok people and she just refused to even acknowledge it was sexual harassment and she basically said “uhh it’s the wife’s fault for publicly commenting on something made public”…these people Istg
By definition it’s quite literally sexual harassment. They’ve expressed they’re uncomfortable now, and people are double downing and even gaslighting them? It’s absolutely insane
There are some lessons to be learned here: TikTok for whatever reason has attracted the worst narcissists in our society and collected them on one app. Interacting with those narcissists is a waste of time. Posting photos of your child on social media is almost always a mistake.
I absolutely despise everything about TikTok. I'll never use it, I wish it never existed because from what I've seen, nothing good has ever come out of it
They also collect user data, and are known to share it with the Chinese government. I can't believe people still use it, let alone to this extent. The first thing I did when I got my new phone was remove it.
The way some of these women are going after his wife and.. And trying to dismiss her feelings by going "she was sexualising her husband" The DELUSION oh my goodness, they're married... There's a huge difference between some rando Tiktok girlies saying some thirsty stuff and his ACTUAL WIFE
I am so so happy that someone is finally talking about it. I called out one of these girls on TikTok saying how it’s not right and it’s disgusting and that he’s a real person not a book character and a bunch of people just went off on me
@@spartuz71 thank you I am going through the common section of the TikToks and the amount of people that are just attacking his wife calling her insecure. Oh, and a racist is unbelievable.
@@doodlebob2023Being a celebrity using social media is a lot different than being a random schlub like you or I. A lot of athletes and other people use it as a marketing tool for promotion, either within their careers or as a side hustle. Think Marshawn Lynch and his BeastMode swag.
The sooner good people realize that "Social Media" is really full of Anti-social people and get off of these cancerous platforms, the sooner they will find happiness on the real things in life.
First I heard of this drama, I don't do TikTok or Twitter, but this doesn't surprise me at all. I'm so pumped for some Hockey this fall , City just picked up an OHL team for a few years too so I'll be hitting up a few games 💯. Enjoy your summer guys 😎.
It's pretty disgusting that these people need someone to "set boundaries" regarding blatant and disgusting sexual harrassment. That's genuinely concerning that they fail to understand that and instead blame the victim of said harrassment.
TikTok needs to moderate better, I hope they get sued someday it has to end. I love Wennberg I think he's a great player for Seattle coming from a CBJ fan but this just hurts because just nobody deserves this
Section 230 protects social media companies from liability. It actually cuts both ways but so far it always seems that they don’t do enough rather than too much. On one hand it protects free speech, on the other it allows the spread of lies, hate and missinformation
Pretty much all social media is trash, but it seems like TikTok has become the final evolution of trash social media behavior. This reminds me of the situation when the Rise of Skywalker came out and Reylo stans were trying to get Adam Driver and Daisy Riddley to hook up in real life by spreading rumors their their partners were cheating on them.
the internet brings out the worst in almost everyone, its treated like a dumping ground for the most vile thoughts, desires and actions.. we were not ready for this kind of faux omnipotence. It has so far been the beginning of the end for civil society... and yes i understand the irony of posting this on social media... that doesn't make it any less true
No one should be able to do anything anonymously online. And if you do or post anything objectionable, you should have your online privileges revoked, at least temporarily. This should be a privilege, not a right. Lastly, nothing should make it online without being vetted first, and platforms need to be held accountable for anything appearing on their platform.
Being a guy that has had a ton of women friends since I was a kid this is how they think , Double standards don't bother them unfortunately . They see nothing wrong with sexually harassing guys even if it is older women and teen boys or if they have a GF or Wife to try and get with him , I was harassed as a teen boy constantly by older women/chicks moms and such and when I was older in my early 20s would have lots of older married women make it known they wanted it . If guys did any of that they would seriously think he's a massive piece or crap or a criminal , I love women and respect them but its a serious blindness they have to that kind of hypocrisy .
Actually, no. It's not a "national headline" because stuff like this happens to women - both famous and not - every day and has for as long as there's been an internet and, when the victim is a woman, lots of people think the solution is for her to just not have social media presence. I am not justifying this situation AT ALL. But the notion that this would be taken more seriously if the victim were a woman is demonstrably wrong.
If you're going to tell me with a straight face that if Serena Williams or someone was facing serial sexual harassment online from booktok that it wouldn't make headlines, not really sure what to say. I don't disagree at all that women face WAYYYY more of this than men. But whereas people are finally starting to come around to that being wrong when it comes to women, there is no white knighting when it comes to men. I've heard stories where a girl will touch a guy inappropriately without consent and their friends will call them "gay" for being bothered by it. Think we're on the same page with it being wrong in any role with any gender and with women getting the lion's share of the unwanted comments by a mile, but I do think people react very differently when genders are reversed. This comment section seems pretty understanding of it, but most of the internet would react in a "not a big deal", "who cares", kind of way.
That's actually a really gross sub-section of tiktok. I don't even bother reading regular fan fiction because of the amount of sexual desperation, and this sounds like it's about the same, but about real people instead of fictional characters.
We're at the point where we look back at 2010 social media as "social media was good back then". In 10 years we'll look back and think tiktok wasn't so bad because in 10 years it'll likely be horrific.
in 2010 most online fan communities of this kind (being a fan of an athlete for reasons beyond how good of a player they are) would ostracize anyone who tried to get the attention of the team or the players directly, or who commented on the team or players social media in the same way they talked with their fan friends about the players. we expected fellow fans to keep that kind of stuff away from the players because they shouldn't have to see it. we know it's weird so it's our responsibility to keep it to private parts of the internet. sometime between then and now I guess people forgot those rules, because this kind of thing is just wrong.
The unfortunate thing is that these people, mostly women, are going to give other female hockey fans a bad name. So many of us already get accused of being 'puck bunnies' for no reason other than BEING female, and it's frustrating. These tiktokers aren't helping, and hopefully enough people will realize that no, most hockey fans who also happen to be women, aren't like this.
If you're taking abuse and you ask people to stop on social media or IRL, you lost. They won. The family should drop off social media, for their own sanity and happiness.
Crap like this is why I only have youtube and no other social media and on here my page is empty I seldom comment but I do like every video I well.....like. Just to cramp your mind even more, I don't own a cell phone ether.
Crazy how these commenters on tiktok think that they're in the right for actively disliking the thoughts and opinions of the family that is being affected
I still dont really understand whats going on after the video since i dont mess with tiktok. People are leaving weird comments and the wife is uncomfortable about it. But why is everyone obsessed with the guy and what makes it different than any other player with fame?
This is a textbook case of sexual harassment. People online have to remember that their parasocial relationship with media personalities, in this case hockey players, is not real and not a personal friendship. Just bc you get a laugh emoji response from someone famous doesn't mean you're buddies.
they are disgusting, bad people. really. after his wife addressed it people should have taken a step back and reflected. instead their actual own insecurities came out and they projected & defended the behavior. tiktok is INSUFFERABLE.
It just shows the double standards for harassment. If men made such comments on an appealing woman, they'd be labeled toxic predators by the woke mob. When women do it, men are supposed to take it as a compliment or laugh it off.
This situation is not only disrespectful to the couple but to books as well. Books are meant ro educate and the fact that books are getting dragged into a drama revolving human stupidity and their lack of boundaries is a shame.
When it comes to internet psychos the best advice out there is: "Never feed the animals" The second you give those creatures something to bite onto they'll swarm.
If I were a celebrity, and I'm including athletes here, I would stay off social media. There are far too many creepy unhinged people with far too much time on their hands out there. You really do not want to get to know them. It's too bad as this could have just been fun, but the Internet seems to constantly "reward" the worst people with attention, and not the medical attention they probably need.
The thing is Felicias statement NEVER mentions someone by name, there was a screenshot and her name was in it but not the focus of it, self centered people think everything MUST be about them
Isn't this why Leon Draisaitl limited comments on his Instagram too? Because he kept getting people being weird and creepy and posting very sexual comments on every single post.
Wennie deserves better. He’s an awesome player, Kraken fans love the apples he constantly dishes out (and playfully hate his inability to shoot the puck himself) and yes he’s a stone cold fox but nothing pertaining to that should trump his great on ice play and friendly attitude with fans.
Just unplug from social media. Your life will become vastly better. I only use UA-cam / Twitter for news and clips sports, and block anything everything else. The narcissism on everything else is getting out of hand and you can’t stop it.
I'm only 30 and TikTok still makes me feel fucking ancient. I do not understand the appeal of it whatsoever. That said, I'm kind of glad I don't use it and never intend on using it 😆
it’s not a random tiktoker… the Kraken TikTok interacted with her and encouraged her for months, and then they invited her to a game and gave her a jersey, and she has over a million followers. I got into hockey because I read hockey romances, but I’m not defending this. It’s all too far. You can enjoy romance books and even how attractive some of the players are without making sexual comments on social media.
She lost me when she said that "if her son would be straight".. The fuck does that matter about how you treat people and more so why are you thinking about sexual orientation with a newborn?😵💫
I wish I had seen this before making the video, and I may need to do a follow up.
If you wanna see how bad it is, the wife's instagram is here: instagram.com/p/CuxSfbCNRdf/
It's Honestly gross: "you should've reached out directly to the weird ass woman sexualizing your husband", "you should've complained in a way that I wanted!" You'll need to scroll down, as Insta does a good job of hiding abuse.... but people are insane.
You'll were milking off Booktok a few months ago.. his team were making all sort of thirst traps and encouraging their followers to do the same BUT now y'll wnna switch up since y'll got the followers and the attention y'll needed... U are putting one individual on blast But not his team who started this whole shenanigans.. gosh I hate u miserable old hags 😵💫
It’s crazy how Kierra reached out to you and you still continued your racist rant against her.
Girl you might as well apologize right now because what you did was distasteful af. To include a creator such as kierra in your little whiney rant when she has done nothing but make both your man AND you more money and popularity but used her platform and even played along with it. Shame on you
You targeted a black woman on purpose. And your husband is not that attractive. I discovered how racist hockey was a long time ago! 0/10 don’t recommend!
You are weaponizing your white woman tears. You could have simply asked her to take the video down and not created all this fake outlash. If you wanted to set a boundary you could have done so without attacking any creators, and done just that set the boundary and expectation without creating drama especially with a black woman. I’m sure you won’t see it that way but you Karen’s never do. If you were truly interested in a greater conversation you would have done this in a different way but you aren’t, your looking for attention hints the comments being left on for continued public opinion and attention to the matter.
a white woman portraying a black woman in a negative manner and playing victim????? gasp! its never happened before 😧 so shocking!
Girl didn’t you call your husband the “ panty, dropper of book talk “ just say he most likely cheated and you don’t like it keep it pushing
We should just go back to when no one cared who you or your husband were. The Kraken (including your husband) fully took advantage of the BookTok hype and now that you got the views and the followers it’s a problem. You could have just never participated. Glad to have you out of my sphere honestly. The Savanna Banana’s would never.
Not your husband cheating so now you don't want people posting about him 😂
Everyone in this comment section should recognize this tactic for what it truly is: RACISM BEING WEAPOINZIE BY A WHITE WOMAN. She did not have a problem with Kierra's content because booktok was giving the team a lot of attention. More attention = more fans = more money to support the team and more money for her and her husband. Now that its over, booktok fans are still around and I suspect there is an uptick of Black Women and Women of Color are shooting their shot in the DMS and/or approaching her husband. By attacking Kierra, she's sending a message to everyone to stay away from her man. By attacking Kierra, she's using racist dog whistles that white women have been using since the dawn of time. #realtea
So your husband and his team profit off a black woman all season long and now you’re sending racist ass hockey fans after her. You should be ashamed.
This goes on, and on, and on.
This is exhausting and honestly the use of feminism/racism as a shield for their shitty behavior just devalues actual victims of racism and sexism
@@kmart93 thats true
This woman grossly overestimates the effect of their TikToks on the income of the team.
@@kmart93welcome to the internet and social media…that’s pretty much all there is nowadays
Aside from the obviously bad situation here, it is remarkable to me how many of those commenters believe that a hockey player's popularity and exposure on social media has any bearing at all on the success of their hockey career. Every player out there is uncomfortable because they all know there's a younger, fast, hungry, player, looking over their shoulder 100% of the time. Its one of the reasons NHL players are so reluctant to take time off from injury. The average career is what, 4-5 years, right? Social media doesn't have anything to do with that, unless GM's are sitting around the table saying "Well, I think this guys' social media success will really help us get a few more in the win column and make us a playoff team. Have you seen the number of followers he's got? We could be a contender next year!"
What really made me mad is the random booktoker tried to claim she made the Seattle Kraken and nobody knew about the team until her irrelevant page posted about them
haha that was certainly interesting. People online tend to vastly over-estimate their own influence. I've done it before too. You get so much positive feedback when you're a creator it's easy to get a BIG head quickly, esp when you are being flown out or whatever
@@EckHockeyI think some GMs think that same way lol
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@@EckHockeywhat was the most sickening to me is that after some back and forth(and not backing down), race, masculinity, and hockey culture were all brought into it. It's abuse of privacy in the least, and full blown harassment in many of the "fans" cases. People calling Wennberg's wife a bi**h and many more going at her. Just people who have abused a platform, have grown their own pathetic voices, pushing them on innocent people.
Takes a hell of an ego for some tictoc rando to take credit for a team's for a team's growth in popularity. Tictoc is a vexation to the spirit & efficient idiot maker.
Making sexual comments under their child’s photos is beyond sickening. Then to gaslight the wife when she expresses that she’s uncomfortable is beyond insane. Only on TikTok will you find these vile disgusting people. Feel really bad for the family
Sadly, you'll find disgusting people in a lot more places than tiktok
I've been way more online than anybody ought to be since Usenet days in the late 80s - early 90s and it's absolutely not just TikTok.
Playing the race card is also super cheap like pls just hang it man
@@doodlebob2023 well said.
@@arkine11 agreed. This is rampant on all social media platforms.
For normal people, these actions are despicable and gross. But for TikTok, it’s just another Tuesday. The amount of brain rot created on TikTok is truly unparalleled in human history.
I mean, I've seen what twitter and facebook did. TikTok is nothing different. It's all bad for your brain
Completely agree, sometimes I wonder if people on Tiktok are human beings
Tik Tok is a slow acting cancer, where you become the tumor
It's not just TikTok, it's all of social media. Twitter, all those on Twitter who ran to whatever Facebook/Meta is doing, ig, all of it. It is the general lack of empathy or humility that some people have.
the mistake here is thinking that Tiktok CREATED any of this. Tiktok cannot create anything on it's own, it only reflects the humans using it. All of this stuff already exists in the human psyche, Tiktok just amplifies it and augments it...
Parasocial relationships need to be better understood by the public so it can be addressed early by loved ones, and maybe these wackos can get their mental health problems addressed. Just because you watch someone on tv or youtube or tiktok, there's nothing between you and them. Your feelings for them are based solely on your idea of them. not an actual relationship. This behavior is a precursor to stalking. To add, the internet has made people way way to comfortable with saying whatever they want consequence free.
Very well said
Well said and a start would be making everyone use their real name, no hiding your hate and discussing behavior.
@@leatherbound4233Says “Mr.leatherbound4233” 😂
Whats wrong with discussing behavior? You literally just discussed bad behavior… Unless you meant Disgusting. 😂
@@leatherbound4233 As far as I know Kierra Lewis is her real name, so that didn't help.
@@ruthsteen6943 Wow did you miss the boat! If you read my statement correctly you would know I was referring to the a-hole haters having to use their real names. No hiding behind anonymity.
It’s worth mentioning that I’m seeing a lot of this shit on Twitter too. Girls absolutely obsessed with hockey players in a way that like the wife here said, if you reversed the genders would totally be viewed differently. Most of these players are married or have a gf, this is gross behaviour
Yes, and it's largely women going to her page to abuse and harass her. It's gross stuff
Eh, I think there's a huge difference if these comments are actively directed at the players or if there's a niche of people talking amongst themselves. Is it still weird? Sure. But they aren't actually trying to get the players' attention, unlike the people in this video.
Chicks get to be gross and sexual harass dudes its a double standard our society accepts , When I was a teenager I won't even tell you how many women in their 20s and 30s and girls moms who I hung out with or dated would make it very known they WANTED it from me . If that were older dudes doing that to teen girls even in the 80s or early 90s would it be accepted ? NO .
@@somewherenowhere676 that’s true I suppose.
@@somewherenowhere676they aren’t in a private setting, it’s all public, and they ARE trying to get the player & wife’s attention by posting & harassing them directly.
It’s just insane that people are trying to defend this. It started out relatively calm but very quickly turned to harassment. Just goes to show how things can go south in an instant. Hope Alex’s family is doing alright.
People beyond these brain rotted narcissistic are defending this?
The problem with TikTok, and to some extent social media in general, is that it gives a platform to the scum of the earth that ten years ago would have been ostracized from society
Professional athletes know the insanity of social media. I wonder why they still promote themselves on these platforms?
Money? Team recognition? Not worth the risk in my opinion.
well, not ten years ago. maybe 20
Unfortunately, this sort of behavior has been around long before social media ever existed. I have been seeing this sort of behavior on all sorts of discussion boards since the early 1990s. They were rife with bullying, harassment, and every form of hate you can think of. It got so out of hand, that many sites just took down their boards. The scum just moved on to other places, like social media and comments sections of online articles.
False, 10 years ago they were still welcomed by many, because that was the hayday of 8chan.
@@m____w____6981Money has to be a big part of it. As an athlete your career can be over any day, nothing is guaranteed. Successful athletes are the ones who can take 5-10 years of money and fame in the big leagues and invest it into a new business they can transition into when their career is over. If you’re a good looking hockey player and can pick up a couple million Instagram followers that translates into some big marketing paycheques when your hockey career starts to dry up.
Im honestly shocked this hasn't happened before that side of the internet is disgusting and they've been doing stuff like this for years
Yes I'm old, but I just can't stand tiktok. To me it seems cringy at best and a nest of narcissism and self-centeredness at worst.
It is as someone who uses Tiktok, that’s pretty much all it is, I’m usually there for the funny video skits and other funny videos, everything else is either cringe, racist or what’s happening in the video
I’m in my late 20’s and hate TikTok, don’t have it on my phone and don’t use it. The people on there are some of the most judgemental and ignorant people I’ve seen online. They defend vile behaviour regardless of education or experience. Thankfully not everyone likes TT, I hope that number grows
I hope I am wrong, but what I also find incredibly frustrating about this is that this situation is likely going to further perpetuate negative stereotypes that some male fans typically have about female hockey fans. This niche group on TikTok who blatantly sexually harass players should not have a platform.
Preach
it's easy enough to see the difference between a normal female fan and whatever it is this group of women is doing. Any guy holding it against all female fans is an asshole
absolutely! and her being a person of color too...makes me sick and frustrated with the community
As a female, I agree that some of the players are attractive. But I’d never go out of my way to post something sexualizing them. Some people get too comfortable with their platforms. I get called a puck bunny all the time, and booktok isnt helping my case.
@@MICKEYMICKEYogi'm a straight guy and I find some of the players attractive...
Reading booktok-er's toxic comments and seeing "what team should we switch to now" and just praying they don't pick any of mine🙏 The whole situation is disgusting, especially making it about race when Felicia was simply asking POLITELY for them to stop sexualizing her husband once things started going too far... Not to mention that screenshot was clearly pointing out the nasty comment and NOT just trying to put blame on that one creator. 🙄 People have no common sense I stg.
Hope that the Wennbergs are okay after all this and that it dies down soon 💙
Oh god the fact that they didn't learn anything and are even considering doing this to another team makes me sick.
I saw a post on Twitter where these people had decided that the Blackhawks are their new team. Part of me was like that tracks with Chicago’s recent history but the other part of me feels sorry for Bedard if that’s true. The kid has enough to worry about
I’m glad they didn’t pick the Preds, also this is insane, like he’s a real person not a character in their books to fantasize about, even if he was single I doubt he’d be interested in these weirdos.
@@Nichaelas Doing what to other teams ? Just delete social media and problem solved. But we cant solve problems, then what would the
plebs whine about eh .
I first heard about it looking at the Kraken’s subreddit, and I have to say:
That’s some Vile Fucked up Shit.
Some jokes on the internet people will take it way too seriously and it just gets creepy.
I had an argument with one of the booktok people and she just refused to even acknowledge it was sexual harassment and she basically said “uhh it’s the wife’s fault for publicly commenting on something made public”…these people Istg
By definition it’s quite literally sexual harassment. They’ve expressed they’re uncomfortable now, and people are double downing and even gaslighting them? It’s absolutely insane
@@canadianrage5224 It baffles me the hoops they jump through to actively think this is all ok. And somehow they believe they’re the victim.
whats the point bro arguing with these kinds of people is like talking to a brick wall. not worth the headache
@@matthewkolakowski3701facts bros…facts
Honestly so impressed with how well you covered this situation
There are some lessons to be learned here:
TikTok for whatever reason has attracted the worst narcissists in our society and collected them on one app.
Interacting with those narcissists is a waste of time.
Posting photos of your child on social media is almost always a mistake.
Only narcissists posts pictures of their children on social media. Narcissists complaining about other narcissists behaviour . Thanks for the laugh.
I absolutely despise everything about TikTok. I'll never use it, I wish it never existed because from what I've seen, nothing good has ever come out of it
They also collect user data, and are known to share it with the Chinese government. I can't believe people still use it, let alone to this extent. The first thing I did when I got my new phone was remove it.
Social media really brings out the worst in people.
The way some of these women are going after his wife and.. And trying to dismiss her feelings by going "she was sexualising her husband" The DELUSION oh my goodness, they're married... There's a huge difference between some rando Tiktok girlies saying some thirsty stuff and his ACTUAL WIFE
I am so so happy that someone is finally talking about it. I called out one of these girls on TikTok saying how it’s not right and it’s disgusting and that he’s a real person not a book character and a bunch of people just went off on me
You're right good for you. I'm with you 100%
@@spartuz71 thank you I am going through the common section of the TikToks and the amount of people that are just attacking his wife calling her insecure. Oh, and a racist is unbelievable.
@@doodlebob2023Being a celebrity using social media is a lot different than being a random schlub like you or I. A lot of athletes and other people use it as a marketing tool for promotion, either within their careers or as a side hustle. Think Marshawn Lynch and his BeastMode swag.
@@doodlebob2023 Shouldn't be on the victims to adjust their life to that extent. This is cruel and unusual on behalf of the tokker's.
Same For me
@Eck we don’t always agree but you’re spot on here.
The sooner good people realize that "Social Media" is really full of Anti-social people and get off of these cancerous platforms, the sooner they will find happiness on the real things in life.
First I heard of this drama, I don't do TikTok or Twitter, but this doesn't surprise me at all. I'm so pumped for some Hockey this fall , City just picked up an OHL team for a few years too so I'll be hitting up a few games 💯. Enjoy your summer guys 😎.
Social Media has caused more problems than postives. IT will be the downfall of humanity.
It would be well-deserved
His wife is very right. Well said
as someone who reads these kind of books, what happened is so gross and i’m glad wenny and his wife handled it they way they did😭
It's pretty disgusting that these people need someone to "set boundaries" regarding blatant and disgusting sexual harrassment. That's genuinely concerning that they fail to understand that and instead blame the victim of said harrassment.
normal people being forced to interact with the cesspool hivemind that is online communities
There should be real charges and punishments for this kind of harassment
The behaviour is akin to late 2000's Tumblr fandom on speed.
My god, the lengths to which fanfic writers will go… this is disgusting.
TikTok needs to moderate better, I hope they get sued someday it has to end. I love Wennberg I think he's a great player for Seattle coming from a CBJ fan but this just hurts because just nobody deserves this
Section 230 protects social media companies from liability. It actually cuts both ways but so far it always seems that they don’t do enough rather than too much. On one hand it protects free speech, on the other it allows the spread of lies, hate and missinformation
@@eddiemin4312 Yeah but they were getting harassed so that is well ignored
Ah, the Internet. Giving people the voice they never had the balls to use in front of actual people since 1995.
Pretty much all social media is trash, but it seems like TikTok has become the final evolution of trash social media behavior. This reminds me of the situation when the Rise of Skywalker came out and Reylo stans were trying to get Adam Driver and Daisy Riddley to hook up in real life by spreading rumors their their partners were cheating on them.
This makes me feel so old. I don't understand it at all. Are these just modern Tumblr girls with creepy obsessions?
the internet brings out the worst in almost everyone, its treated like a dumping ground for the most vile thoughts, desires and actions.. we were not ready for this kind of faux omnipotence. It has so far been the beginning of the end for civil society... and yes i understand the irony of posting this on social media... that doesn't make it any less true
This situation is precisely the reason I do not use social media, especially TikTok.
An example of when its time to delete an app. Responding to weirdos almost never goes well
people are horrible.
You're soft for such a generalized post
No, this person is horrible and the people who were defending her as well, but people in general aren’t because there are good people in the world
@@Something7348 and this is what makes you strong. Independent thinking. Not throwing 98% of good apples out due to 2% of the bad ones
No one should be able to do anything anonymously online. And if you do or post anything objectionable, you should have your online privileges revoked, at least temporarily. This should be a privilege, not a right. Lastly, nothing should make it online without being vetted first, and platforms need to be held accountable for anything appearing on their platform.
No defence for that kind of behavior. All the love to Alex and his family.
All they have to do is think to themselves.... would this happening to my boyfriend bother me? I PROMISE they would all say yes. soooooo?
Being a guy that has had a ton of women friends since I was a kid this is how they think , Double standards don't bother them unfortunately . They see nothing wrong with sexually harassing guys even if it is older women and teen boys or if they have a GF or Wife to try and get with him , I was harassed as a teen boy constantly by older women/chicks moms and such and when I was older in my early 20s would have lots of older married women make it known they wanted it . If guys did any of that they would seriously think he's a massive piece or crap or a criminal , I love women and respect them but its a serious blindness they have to that kind of hypocrisy .
They don't have boyfriends
I don’t know how or why but I just found ur big channel and I was like funny he’s got the same dog as eck the hockey channel 😂😂😂😂
Imagine if this was a female athlete. Would be a national headline.
Especially since woman have been cat called for centuries. You would think that they wouldn’t because they know how it feels
Actually, no. It's not a "national headline" because stuff like this happens to women - both famous and not - every day and has for as long as there's been an internet and, when the victim is a woman, lots of people think the solution is for her to just not have social media presence.
I am not justifying this situation AT ALL. But the notion that this would be taken more seriously if the victim were a woman is demonstrably wrong.
If you're going to tell me with a straight face that if Serena Williams or someone was facing serial sexual harassment online from booktok that it wouldn't make headlines, not really sure what to say.
I don't disagree at all that women face WAYYYY more of this than men. But whereas people are finally starting to come around to that being wrong when it comes to women, there is no white knighting when it comes to men. I've heard stories where a girl will touch a guy inappropriately without consent and their friends will call them "gay" for being bothered by it.
Think we're on the same page with it being wrong in any role with any gender and with women getting the lion's share of the unwanted comments by a mile, but I do think people react very differently when genders are reversed. This comment section seems pretty understanding of it, but most of the internet would react in a "not a big deal", "who cares", kind of way.
@@SoozBeezunderrated comment.
I feel if it was guy doing it, he’d be jerking to her Instagram but wouldn’t tell anyone about it 🤷🏻♂️
Not like that’s any less creepy
Put ‘em on a watchlist!
The score on all three holes commenter missed a great hat trick joke.
Some people shouldn't have access to the internet. Period.
That's actually a really gross sub-section of tiktok. I don't even bother reading regular fan fiction because of the amount of sexual desperation, and this sounds like it's about the same, but about real people instead of fictional characters.
We're at the point where we look back at 2010 social media as "social media was good back then". In 10 years we'll look back and think tiktok wasn't so bad because in 10 years it'll likely be horrific.
in 2010 most online fan communities of this kind (being a fan of an athlete for reasons beyond how good of a player they are) would ostracize anyone who tried to get the attention of the team or the players directly, or who commented on the team or players social media in the same way they talked with their fan friends about the players. we expected fellow fans to keep that kind of stuff away from the players because they shouldn't have to see it. we know it's weird so it's our responsibility to keep it to private parts of the internet.
sometime between then and now I guess people forgot those rules, because this kind of thing is just wrong.
Sticks and stones will break our bones why this is straight up sawft
looks like felicia loved the attention until she realized what everyone with half a brain already knew
I've always like Wennberg, he reminds me of Krejci
He’s a humble dude and we love him here in Seattle.
I mean why commenting a married man with sexual flirts. I just cant. Many single men out there. Ask them to a date.
The unfortunate thing is that these people, mostly women, are going to give other female hockey fans a bad name. So many of us already get accused of being 'puck bunnies' for no reason other than BEING female, and it's frustrating. These tiktokers aren't helping, and hopefully enough people will realize that no, most hockey fans who also happen to be women, aren't like this.
I avoid tic-toc because I’m pretty sure the average intelligence is around 3rd grade.
Tiktok needs to be banned asap.
This same thing happens on all social media.
I just wanted to watch hockey...
This situation is simply thought terminating
If you're taking abuse and you ask people to stop on social media or IRL, you lost. They won. The family should drop off social media, for their own sanity and happiness.
Crap like this is why I only have youtube and no other social media and on here my page is empty I seldom comment but I do like every video I well.....like. Just to cramp your mind even more, I don't own a cell phone ether.
Crazy how these commenters on tiktok think that they're in the right for actively disliking the thoughts and opinions of the family that is being affected
People are sick In the head and need to get help.
I'm not even Christian, but y'all need Jesus!
They’re from planet tik tok and that place is an absolute cesspool.
TikTok itself is gross, and by design
I still dont really understand whats going on after the video since i dont mess with tiktok. People are leaving weird comments and the wife is uncomfortable about it. But why is everyone obsessed with the guy and what makes it different than any other player with fame?
because he's handsome, and a stand in for all their smut characters
This is why you don't use tik tok
AND
you fucked around and now you found out
Thank you for bringing light to this
As a kraken fan im disgusted🤮 I dont want to stop supporting them because of the Media Team Hopefully this can get fixed
His wife is incredibly well spoken
Man People need to step back and think Like Holy Smokes
This is a textbook case of sexual harassment. People online have to remember that their parasocial relationship with media personalities, in this case hockey players, is not real and not a personal friendship. Just bc you get a laugh emoji response from someone famous doesn't mean you're buddies.
Thanks for calling it out. It's important.
Deleting all social media will make you so much happier
Not that you would know lol
they are disgusting, bad people. really. after his wife addressed it people should have taken a step back and reflected. instead their actual own insecurities came out and they projected & defended the behavior. tiktok is INSUFFERABLE.
It just shows the double standards for harassment. If men made such comments on an appealing woman, they'd be labeled toxic predators by the woke mob. When women do it, men are supposed to take it as a compliment or laugh it off.
TikTok is a scourge on humanity
This situation is not only disrespectful to the couple but to books as well. Books are meant ro educate and the fact that books are getting dragged into a drama revolving human stupidity and their lack of boundaries is a shame.
When it comes to internet psychos the best advice out there is:
"Never feed the animals"
The second you give those creatures something to bite onto they'll swarm.
If I were a celebrity, and I'm including athletes here, I would stay off social media. There are far too many creepy unhinged people with far too much time on their hands out there. You really do not want to get to know them.
It's too bad as this could have just been fun, but the Internet seems to constantly "reward" the worst people with attention, and not the medical attention they probably need.
Just don't post on social media. It's not hard.
"unbelievable...almost"
This is why I don’t use TikTok really disgusting and just a very toxic app
Well it's hockey. So luckily no one will know!
as a ducks fan i pray to fuck this dosent happen to trevor zegres or any of the players people make thirst traps about
The thing is Felicias statement NEVER mentions someone by name, there was a screenshot and her name was in it but not the focus of it, self centered people think everything MUST be about them
Consider the mentality of who reads this trash and then think of who dreams it up. 🤷♀️ Hockey romance novels 😂😂😂
Tik Tok is the worst thing to happen to Social Media. Im glad im not on this shit.
Isn't this why Leon Draisaitl limited comments on his Instagram too? Because he kept getting people being weird and creepy and posting very sexual comments on every single post.
Wennie deserves better. He’s an awesome player, Kraken fans love the apples he constantly dishes out (and playfully hate his inability to shoot the puck himself) and yes he’s a stone cold fox but nothing pertaining to that should trump his great on ice play and friendly attitude with fans.
Just unplug from social media. Your life will become vastly better. I only use UA-cam / Twitter for news and clips sports, and block anything everything else. The narcissism on everything else is getting out of hand and you can’t stop it.
This is why I stay off facebook/Twitter/tiktok.. I only post comments on UA-cam stufff
Put Rapinoe in Wennberg's place and imagine the shitshow. Double standards.
I'm only 30 and TikTok still makes me feel fucking ancient. I do not understand the appeal of it whatsoever. That said, I'm kind of glad I don't use it and never intend on using it 😆
This is nothing new about modern western women. that's why men refuse to date these days.
it’s not a random tiktoker… the Kraken TikTok interacted with her and encouraged her for months, and then they invited her to a game and gave her a jersey, and she has over a million followers. I got into hockey because I read hockey romances, but I’m not defending this. It’s all too far. You can enjoy romance books and even how attractive some of the players are without making sexual comments on social media.
Some people should just stay away from a phone or a keyboard.
She lost me when she said that "if her son would be straight"..
The fuck does that matter about how you treat people and more so why are you thinking about sexual orientation with a newborn?😵💫
I've done a lot of shitty things in life, but I never made a TikTok.
The female hockey community on Twitter is exactly like the too. They just don’t say it.