There's no proof he is number 1 yet zywoo and donk could easily be better but he could also be better than them. Will have to wait to see how the year plays out
@@solome6478eh, if he misses a sleeper he’s probably good to miss another, but he’s hitting 90% of the shots he’s supposed to and 50% of the shots he’s not supposed to
Always nice hearing new voices in the scene. Could tell the guy was somewhat sheepish early on but he really opened up at the halfway mark once comfortable and it was another great episode!
@@prishanthelis1394 let's keep on going with this discussion. It is definitely not a matter of taste that's for sure.... Also, snappi wants dust2 back so thats enough for me. Would rather have train or cobblestone, but also have to think about valve trying to gain traction in China and they think dust2 will help them do this. So agree or disagree, it is good to expand the scene rather than pleasing redditors and UA-cam comments like ours.
@@Decon89yeah, I agree, dust 2 is too puggy and spawn based on t-side when compared with a map like train or overpass. There are way too many puggy maps in the pool atm: mirage, ancient, dust 2...
I genuinely think a fix for inferno to make one site easier to take would be to add a path in back of library direvtly to graveyard. It would force Ts to push directly into CT spawn to take full control, or give CTs an easier way to get past the moto smoke
They could also tweak the amount of cover on A site, because even with a pit smoke it's still a pain to properly clear all the corners on the site when retaking from long, and I don't think it would make it much harder for the CTs to defend from short pushes. This is a pet peeve of mine: how often we talk about making big changes to the layout of a map without even attempting to address the issues with simple changes first like just moving some cover around. When you see a community map in development, they'll often go through dozens of changes in cover layout within a single site before they stick with one, but for some reason with Valve maps we seemingly only ever consider significant map layout changes. I can see where the hesitancy to suggest small changes comes from however, with how erratic Valve development is. With a community mapper, I'd have no qualms suggesting a small change like that because I know they'd probably be quick to switch it up if the change didn't have the desired effect. Meanwhile with Valve, they'd actually be the sort to listen to me and move a bit of cover around, and then leave the map untouched for years before attempting another iteration. Or they'd actually decide to make a bunch of changes for a period of a few months. Who the fuck knows... kind of the issue with Valve.
Wrong bombsite. B is the issue. No other map in history has ever had only 1 route to a site, there has always been an alternate route. Inferno has as many lanes as dota 2. Need a route from CT side of arches to the middle of banana. Its essentially if you put a bomb site at red crate outside on nuke.
1:19:21 One thing that I'd like to add to the segment about how hooxi won Blast Premier World Finals 2022, Katowice 2023, and Cologne 2023 because his whole team was overperforming is that the competition that they faced at those 3 events were so weak. Every team except for the one team they'd face in the grand finals were either burnt-out or made roster changes beforehand.
While the argument is reasonable, it’s way too vague and can easily be labeled for a load of event wins for both Apex and Karrigan. You could make a fair argument that the ONLY time he won events was when this happened, but saying that it happening makes Hooxi bad is unreasonable.
A point which im still thinking about and that thorin nailed on the head is this: why to be eligible to IGL g2 do you need to somehow OUTPERFORM hooxi with m0nesy and niko as someone with worse players? If snappi cant beat hooxi with sunpayus and a washed dupreeh is he now just now not allowed to be in consideration?
If we are being technical we don't really need to wait for a playoff run from Mongolz any longer as they are already in EPL playoffs by beating g2 and they play vit only to see if they skip an extra round.
Straight trash. He, like many others, can't quite grasp the concept that cs2 is all about timing. His pace is killing him. He is still trying to play like csgo. I think once a lot of pros start picking up on this they will bounce backc
@stefanrauski4455 Yes, rewatch the Mongols game, especially Vertigo. NiKo would get caught off guard so often on the A site by simple ramp rushes and executes. Rewatch the M80 game on Ancient. He went like 6-20, and HooXi outfragged him the entire regulation and into double OT. m0nesy had to carry the team into triple OT for NiKo to finally wake up, and sure, he got back-to-back aces, but it took 40 rounds. 40 ROUNDS! AGAINST TIER 2 NA NOBODIES! That's not reliable! Like you're supposed to be a star player worth half a million, at least! I'll be glad to eat my words if he pops off during EPL playoffs, but he just looks way off form.
@@chef-b3337 sample size? Also niko in this form is still easily top 20 player in the world. Hooxi having more kills than Niko at some point in one map =/= Hooxi outfragging Niko. As for the other person saying that niko is truly washed and hitting 2021 olof levels, I am not even gonna bother...
Devil's Advocate (not a good one) for early Pro League groups distribution was that it coincedes with Challenger Melbourne so that that teams who would like to go there have a chance (dont schedule your tournaments in the same time slot ESL is that so hard?).
There were things that kennyS could do in the game no one else could. There were things that s1mple could do that no one else could. Now there are things m0nesy does that no one else does.
the thing about m0nesy is that he probably wouldn’t have hit these peaks if it wasn’t for his teams poor performance. there simply isn’t enough space in most teams for somebody to go nuclear unless their teammates are underperforming, this is why ropz at the late stage of csgo and the beginning of cs2 was so dominant. m0nesy is a monster, and i think this year with g2 will refine him in the same way mousesports refined niko.
Crazy enough Monesy became this good because of G2. In the talking counter podcast Niko mentioned how they forced Monesy to learn how to use his nades and how he should make the round about himself. Hell even Niko said and i quote "I want him to tell me what to do"
There is actually a demographic which fits that archetype that Furia was looking for. Japanese Baseball pros. Coaches often enforce very strict diet and behaviour codes and they almost play as an art form/expression of discipline. It's not unusual to hear of players only being provided vegetarian food or whatever for part of a season, or not being allowed to see their wives as it's a distraction. As a result, the Japanese have gained a lot of ground in international baseball. That isn't going to work for people who aren't disciplined that way from the time they're children, which is the only reason it works in Japanese Baseball. There's a whole pipeline that makes the men who play at the highest level tough enough to take it. Often foreign players will be shocked to the point of relating their team to the Imperial Japanese army, and there are stories about people considering going to the cops over the treatment. This can't really happen for pro gamers from a different culture, especially in a time with no other outlets. It would be reasonable to try and do some kind of Maradona trade off where you let Hen1 out every thursday or something, or you might request that he only go out *next* weekend as this weekend we have an important game, and try to adjust his behaviour 5% or 10% to get a bit more longevity out of him without ruining his mental, but just telling him to change everything about his lifestyle and expecting this to not impact his game is insane, then he got kicked on top of it. Whoever is managing that team is mental, hopefully they try to do some corrections to explain exactly what happened because this does look bad right now.
i really love when it comes to wheres all the vertigo classics or here are the ancient classics or the anubis classics it all just faze. It feels like every game from recent memory that's a classic is faze. Really, in a special time right now and we don't even know it. Better cherish it before its gone.
8:40 - Yeah, well.. actually Spodek hosted multiple World and European Championship level events in Volleyball, Handball and Basketball. As well as other sports. Also some pretty big name bands and individual singers concerts. It's an especially legendary arena for Polish Men's Volleyball team which is one of the best and currently THE best men's volleyball team in the World. So yes, it is probably cheaper to rent than other big venues in western europe but it's not a c-tier arena which just used to host some minor women's events in 70's and 80's at all. Not by a long shot. Love the show overall but just had to correct that statement, since it could not have been further from the truth.
Some events hosted (and scheduled to be hosted) in Katowice's Spodek Arena (from Wikipedia; excluded all the Electronic Sports League and Intel Extreme Masters World Championships tournaments) : - Blaze Bayley (of Iron Maiden and Wolfsbane) recorded his Alive in Poland DVD at Spodek in 2007 - Deep Purple recorded their Live Encounters DVD at Spodek in 1996 - Pearl Jam recorded their 6/15/00 - Katowice, Poland and 6/16/00 - Katowice, Poland albums at Spodek - Smashing Pumpkins cover photo (inside) for the album Adore was taken in Katowice after a concert in Spodek - The band Hey recorded their 1994 Hey Live! album at Spodek. - The arena held the final rounds of the EuroBasket 2009 - FIVB Volleyball World League Final Round 2001 & 2007 - EuroBasket Women 2011 - 2014 FIVB Volleyball Men's World Championship - 2016 European Men's Handball Championship - 2016 IIHF World Championship Division IA - The WTA Tour BNP Paribas Katowice Open, a professional women's tennis tournament, was held at Spodek between 2013-2016 - 2019 BWF World Senior Championships - 2022 FIVB Volleyball Men's World Championship - 2023 World Men's Handball Championship - EuroBasket 2025 - 2026 European Women's Handball Championship - 2031 World Women's Handball Championship
@@xgui3136 Badminton is huge in asia especially. I bet it's more like.. 5 million people that actually care about even this type of seniors event. Probably more. And even if it was "10k", that doesn't change the impact of my post's point anyway.
@@xgui3136 even if so - you know what every chinese person interest is? wow. impressive. also - asia a little bit bigger than just china. senior is a 35+ category, btw. [edit: just checked the 2019 event's viewership on YT alone and it's around 95-100k per day on average. So a little bit more than "10k" and that's just YT anyway. You don't know what you're talking about, what a surprise.] besides, go read the rest of my post. you're not arguing the point. this is my last reply to you.
I completely agree that ppl are giving monesy his flowers for being hard carrying G2 this year, but what I don't understand is that the same ppl praising him for doing so, are the ones who diminished ZywOo feats in 2019 for carrying a Vitality team that was much worse than this G2! The scale is really different depending on who you are.
@@seansy5247 interesting that the metric for ZywOo is always different as I said before. One tournament where he was sick and you're saying he fell off. Must I remind you that other years, ZywOo had really weak starts in the first semesters but bounced back to be top 1 in back to back fashion!
I didn't say he fell off. I said he fell off hard. No longer the best player in the world and never will be. Him s1mple and Niko should retire and start a podcast or something 🤣
I feel the same, specially when Thorin tries to diminish ZywOo. He uses a lot of arguments that could be applied to s1mple. For example: Thorin always says that ZywOo chokes in some big tournaments like Katowice or Cologne, but I already saw s1mple choking in big tournaments. He says monesy is on the same of level of s1mple, but I also saw monesy choking. Actually, on this current EPL, in one of the matches, he had one of the three worst map stats of his career, but for Monesy and s1mple, it's ok to choke. They are still the top 1 player, but ZywOo will never be the top 1 because of some choking moments. It doesn't make any sense.
9:00 we got the volleyball world championship in the spodek last year, which is like the world cup of volleyball (1x every 4 years). Not the biggest event - so doesn't really refute your point, but it was cool to watch!
Imo on c9 I wouldn't even keep Boomber because if ur starting over just keep axile and toss the rest besides perfecto but he chose to leave as far as I know.. id even grab zorte naffany and kairon with perfecto and axile plus get an ok coach over groove because the assistant coach that just got cut was the 1 naffany said saw cs better
Was the literal veganism thing confirmed? Maybe I've fallen for some bait, but I had heard that during the interview that was basically just joking code for not having sex. arT talked about having to go months without "meat" and how the org was forcing them to be "vegetarian".
Holy shit the Hooxi hate is insane. He has been good. He has better rating than karrigan, Aleksi and siuhy. Just because his star players suck ass (NiKo and Hunter) doesn't mean he's a bad IGL. His style is great for this team bcs it enables m0nesy to do m0nesy things. Imagine this team but with NiKo playing at the same lvl as he was in CSGO. Nobody would care. They should genuinely remove nexa and maybe hunter and replace them with Jimphatt and some other lurker
38:30 Fun fact S1mple , monesy and KennyS are way less aggressive than this m0ron is saying , it is like he didn't really watch the game or paid any attention but just watched highlights . Both have less opening kills attempt , 3rd on their teams , players like Electronic , Boombl4 for NaVi , Hooxi , NiKo for G2 and NBK- , Apex always did more entry work all the time . Another Fun Fact : Zywoo had the most entry attempt rate every single year he played on Vitality (2019-2023) and had more clutches than every other awper I mentioned before . Although s1mple is the greatest of all time, with his performance in 2018 standing out as arguably the best year for any player in history, it's noteworthy that it was the only year where he made the most opening kill attempts on his team.
Thorin, Mauisnake & Mauisnake's Dad ❤
He's here to make sure Maui takes a break from gambling 🫵🏻
Mauiserpent
Hahaha
KennyS is the best example of "He's on A, go B everyone!"
And m0NESY is far better.
Yep and Monesy will far surpass any awper to ever touch cs. He will become the player new players look up to and wants to copy his config
Yeah m0nesy is legit in a rare form, I hope he finds success before his fire burns out.
If hes anything like s1mple he will have multiple peaks throughout his career. This is likely not even his best play yet.
@@Polyvalent agreed but nothing is promised.
Watching monesy evolve from a prodigy in 2022 into the #1 player in the world has been the favorite part of counter strike since starting to watch it
There's no proof he is number 1 yet zywoo and donk could easily be better but he could also be better than them. Will have to wait to see how the year plays out
During clutches, Broky on a good day looks like KennyS
He looks like a poor man's Kenny ****
Yes he does hit flicks, but also misses sitters like 30% of the time
@@solome6478eh, if he misses a sleeper he’s probably good to miss another, but he’s hitting 90% of the shots he’s supposed to and 50% of the shots he’s not supposed to
Get blitz some English lessons, that guy is in contention to be a top 10 IGL
Get him into Pasha's London school.
Isn't he in like the top 0.1% or something of chess players too
@@McChickenJOI He was one of the top 50 in ALL of Asia before he started competing in CS
@@KemonoFriendsOfficial that's fucking crazy
@@KemonoFriendsOfficialAs an FM? That doesn't sound right unless you're not referring to fide rating
“cobble is unnecessary while overpass is in the pool” 💀💀💀
great episode as always
Always nice hearing new voices in the scene. Could tell the guy was somewhat sheepish early on but he really opened up at the halfway mark once comfortable and it was another great episode!
Funny thing about the map pool. We still have vertigo and stale inferno and now we got shti dust2 back instead of overpasst.
Dust2 better than overpass. Vertigo also better than op. Dunno about inf, haven't played new version enough.
@@Decon89no chance, both dust 2 and vertigo are far worse at the pro level than overpass imo. I would've much rather seen -vert +train.
@@prishanthelis1394 let's keep on going with this discussion. It is definitely not a matter of taste that's for sure.... Also, snappi wants dust2 back so thats enough for me.
Would rather have train or cobblestone, but also have to think about valve trying to gain traction in China and they think dust2 will help them do this. So agree or disagree, it is good to expand the scene rather than pleasing redditors and UA-cam comments like ours.
@@Decon89yeah, I agree, dust 2 is too puggy and spawn based on t-side when compared with a map like train or overpass. There are way too many puggy maps in the pool atm: mirage, ancient, dust 2...
Why not put in the new map instead of fkin 20 year old dust2.. Typical valve
this Armchair is a nice guy
I genuinely think a fix for inferno to make one site easier to take would be to add a path in back of library direvtly to graveyard. It would force Ts to push directly into CT spawn to take full control, or give CTs an easier way to get past the moto smoke
hmm yeah, that could actually help remedy the unretakable nature of inferno, interesting
They could also tweak the amount of cover on A site, because even with a pit smoke it's still a pain to properly clear all the corners on the site when retaking from long, and I don't think it would make it much harder for the CTs to defend from short pushes.
This is a pet peeve of mine: how often we talk about making big changes to the layout of a map without even attempting to address the issues with simple changes first like just moving some cover around.
When you see a community map in development, they'll often go through dozens of changes in cover layout within a single site before they stick with one, but for some reason with Valve maps we seemingly only ever consider significant map layout changes.
I can see where the hesitancy to suggest small changes comes from however, with how erratic Valve development is. With a community mapper, I'd have no qualms suggesting a small change like that because I know they'd probably be quick to switch it up if the change didn't have the desired effect.
Meanwhile with Valve, they'd actually be the sort to listen to me and move a bit of cover around, and then leave the map untouched for years before attempting another iteration. Or they'd actually decide to make a bunch of changes for a period of a few months. Who the fuck knows... kind of the issue with Valve.
Wrong bombsite. B is the issue. No other map in history has ever had only 1 route to a site, there has always been an alternate route. Inferno has as many lanes as dota 2. Need a route from CT side of arches to the middle of banana. Its essentially if you put a bomb site at red crate outside on nuke.
Maui doppelganger as a guest? Great episode as always
Actually he’s mauisnake’s dad. Mauilizard.
1:19:21 One thing that I'd like to add to the segment about how hooxi won Blast Premier World Finals 2022, Katowice 2023, and Cologne 2023 because his whole team was overperforming is that the competition that they faced at those 3 events were so weak. Every team except for the one team they'd face in the grand finals were either burnt-out or made roster changes beforehand.
While the argument is reasonable, it’s way too vague and can easily be labeled for a load of event wins for both Apex and Karrigan.
You could make a fair argument that the ONLY time he won events was when this happened, but saying that it happening makes Hooxi bad is unreasonable.
A point which im still thinking about and that thorin nailed on the head is this: why to be eligible to IGL g2 do you need to somehow OUTPERFORM hooxi with m0nesy and niko as someone with worse players? If snappi cant beat hooxi with sunpayus and a washed dupreeh is he now just now not allowed to be in consideration?
If we are being technical we don't really need to wait for a playoff run from Mongolz any longer as they are already in EPL playoffs by beating g2 and they play vit only to see if they skip an extra round.
About the burn out, yes yes yes. Teams and Orgs should be PICKING and CHOOSING. If you go to all of them that is your own fault lol.
Why is no one saying NiKo is trash right now? HooXi outfrags NiKo. NiKo can't hold a bomb site. NiKo is the reason G2 lost to Mongols.
niko is truly washed. this is like olof past 2020, where he can still occasionally have a good game but it’ll surprise you
Straight trash. He, like many others, can't quite grasp the concept that cs2 is all about timing. His pace is killing him. He is still trying to play like csgo. I think once a lot of pros start picking up on this they will bounce backc
Are you even watching the games?
@stefanrauski4455 Yes, rewatch the Mongols game, especially Vertigo. NiKo would get caught off guard so often on the A site by simple ramp rushes and executes. Rewatch the M80 game on Ancient. He went like 6-20, and HooXi outfragged him the entire regulation and into double OT. m0nesy had to carry the team into triple OT for NiKo to finally wake up, and sure, he got back-to-back aces, but it took 40 rounds. 40 ROUNDS! AGAINST TIER 2 NA NOBODIES! That's not reliable! Like you're supposed to be a star player worth half a million, at least! I'll be glad to eat my words if he pops off during EPL playoffs, but he just looks way off form.
@@chef-b3337 sample size? Also niko in this form is still easily top 20 player in the world. Hooxi having more kills than Niko at some point in one map =/= Hooxi outfragging Niko. As for the other person saying that niko is truly washed and hitting 2021 olof levels, I am not even gonna bother...
Devil's Advocate (not a good one) for early Pro League groups distribution was that it coincedes with Challenger Melbourne so that that teams who would like to go there have a chance (dont schedule your tournaments in the same time slot ESL is that so hard?).
There were things that kennyS could do in the game no one else could. There were things that s1mple could do that no one else could. Now there are things m0nesy does that no one else does.
the thing about m0nesy is that he probably wouldn’t have hit these peaks if it wasn’t for his teams poor performance. there simply isn’t enough space in most teams for somebody to go nuclear unless their teammates are underperforming, this is why ropz at the late stage of csgo and the beginning of cs2 was so dominant. m0nesy is a monster, and i think this year with g2 will refine him in the same way mousesports refined niko.
Crazy enough Monesy became this good because of G2. In the talking counter podcast Niko mentioned how they forced Monesy to learn how to use his nades and how he should make the round about himself. Hell even Niko said and i quote "I want him to tell me what to do"
There is actually a demographic which fits that archetype that Furia was looking for. Japanese Baseball pros. Coaches often enforce very strict diet and behaviour codes and they almost play as an art form/expression of discipline. It's not unusual to hear of players only being provided vegetarian food or whatever for part of a season, or not being allowed to see their wives as it's a distraction. As a result, the Japanese have gained a lot of ground in international baseball. That isn't going to work for people who aren't disciplined that way from the time they're children, which is the only reason it works in Japanese Baseball. There's a whole pipeline that makes the men who play at the highest level tough enough to take it. Often foreign players will be shocked to the point of relating their team to the Imperial Japanese army, and there are stories about people considering going to the cops over the treatment. This can't really happen for pro gamers from a different culture, especially in a time with no other outlets. It would be reasonable to try and do some kind of Maradona trade off where you let Hen1 out every thursday or something, or you might request that he only go out *next* weekend as this weekend we have an important game, and try to adjust his behaviour 5% or 10% to get a bit more longevity out of him without ruining his mental, but just telling him to change everything about his lifestyle and expecting this to not impact his game is insane, then he got kicked on top of it.
Whoever is managing that team is mental, hopefully they try to do some corrections to explain exactly what happened because this does look bad right now.
i really love when it comes to wheres all the vertigo classics or here are the ancient classics or the anubis classics it all just faze. It feels like every game from recent memory that's a classic is faze. Really, in a special time right now and we don't even know it. Better cherish it before its gone.
in the last game m0NESY is fucking shooting in morse code guys ffs he's saying he's being held hostage by G2 and is TORTURED look it up guys
8:40 - Yeah, well.. actually Spodek hosted multiple World and European Championship level events in Volleyball, Handball and Basketball. As well as other sports. Also some pretty big name bands and individual singers concerts. It's an especially legendary arena for Polish Men's Volleyball team which is one of the best and currently THE best men's volleyball team in the World. So yes, it is probably cheaper to rent than other big venues in western europe but it's not a c-tier arena which just used to host some minor women's events in 70's and 80's at all. Not by a long shot.
Love the show overall but just had to correct that statement, since it could not have been further from the truth.
Some events hosted (and scheduled to be hosted) in Katowice's Spodek Arena (from Wikipedia; excluded all the Electronic Sports League and Intel Extreme Masters World Championships tournaments) :
- Blaze Bayley (of Iron Maiden and Wolfsbane) recorded his Alive in Poland DVD at Spodek in 2007
- Deep Purple recorded their Live Encounters DVD at Spodek in 1996
- Pearl Jam recorded their 6/15/00 - Katowice, Poland and 6/16/00 - Katowice, Poland albums at Spodek
- Smashing Pumpkins cover photo (inside) for the album Adore was taken in Katowice after a concert in Spodek
- The band Hey recorded their 1994 Hey Live! album at Spodek.
- The arena held the final rounds of the EuroBasket 2009
- FIVB Volleyball World League Final Round 2001 & 2007
- EuroBasket Women 2011
- 2014 FIVB Volleyball Men's World Championship
- 2016 European Men's Handball Championship
- 2016 IIHF World Championship Division IA
- The WTA Tour BNP Paribas Katowice Open, a professional women's tennis tournament, was held at Spodek between 2013-2016
- 2019 BWF World Senior Championships
- 2022 FIVB Volleyball Men's World Championship
- 2023 World Men's Handball Championship
- EuroBasket 2025
- 2026 European Women's Handball Championship
- 2031 World Women's Handball Championship
bro don’t cite BWF senior championships which probably less than 10k ppl worldwide even care about as a significant event lol
@@xgui3136 Badminton is huge in asia especially. I bet it's more like.. 5 million people that actually care about even this type of seniors event. Probably more.
And even if it was "10k", that doesn't change the impact of my post's point anyway.
@@misterkefir i’m chinese brother no one cares about the SENIOR championship
@@xgui3136 even if so - you know what every chinese person interest is? wow. impressive. also - asia a little bit bigger than just china. senior is a 35+ category, btw. [edit: just checked the 2019 event's viewership on YT alone and it's around 95-100k per day on average. So a little bit more than "10k" and that's just YT anyway. You don't know what you're talking about, what a surprise.]
besides, go read the rest of my post. you're not arguing the point. this is my last reply to you.
3/7 teams in group A (Incl. C9) and to Mauis point Virtus Pro is also in group A so very close to being 4/7 teams if not for a stupid Jame crash
I completely agree that ppl are giving monesy his flowers for being hard carrying G2 this year, but what I don't understand is that the same ppl praising him for doing so, are the ones who diminished ZywOo feats in 2019 for carrying a Vitality team that was much worse than this G2! The scale is really different depending on who you are.
Zywoo is second to m0neey imo. He fell off hard and won't cone back imo.
@@seansy5247 interesting that the metric for ZywOo is always different as I said before. One tournament where he was sick and you're saying he fell off. Must I remind you that other years, ZywOo had really weak starts in the first semesters but bounced back to be top 1 in back to back fashion!
I didn't say he fell off. I said he fell off hard. No longer the best player in the world and never will be. Him s1mple and Niko should retire and start a podcast or something 🤣
I feel the same, specially when Thorin tries to diminish ZywOo. He uses a lot of arguments that could be applied to s1mple. For example: Thorin always says that ZywOo chokes in some big tournaments like Katowice or Cologne, but I already saw s1mple choking in big tournaments. He says monesy is on the same of level of s1mple, but I also saw monesy choking. Actually, on this current EPL, in one of the matches, he had one of the three worst map stats of his career, but for Monesy and s1mple, it's ok to choke. They are still the top 1 player, but ZywOo will never be the top 1 because of some choking moments. It doesn't make any sense.
If you squint, Maui looks surrounded by " making all his points unserious :)
9:00 we got the volleyball world championship in the spodek last year, which is like the world cup of volleyball (1x every 4 years). Not the biggest event - so doesn't really refute your point, but it was cool to watch!
i'm not sure i agree that Mongolz aren't incredibly individually skilled players, they are insane in FPL, especially blitz
eh, i literally played them in faceit before
broky is underrated
true
some dreamhack open events were some of my favorites in 2016 to 2017
Imo on c9 I wouldn't even keep Boomber because if ur starting over just keep axile and toss the rest besides perfecto but he chose to leave as far as I know.. id even grab zorte naffany and kairon with perfecto and axile plus get an ok coach over groove because the assistant coach that just got cut was the 1 naffany said saw cs better
You don't know CS if you think Nafany is better than Boomb4l
loved this episode great work
1:54:40 Reminds me of Snookie's boyfriend on Jersey Shore getting angry that she was getting drunk all the time
don't see anything wrong with the hen1 kick. they may have dominated NA, but they were not competitive at all against EU teams.
Monesy to vitality for mez, zywoo to rifle
God after they fucking removed overpass this episode aged like wine
46:15 so if overpass is gone now can we have cobble
Let's not pretend that Sadokist dropping a hard R whilst drunk on a steam had nothing to do with his exile from the scene
ESL give me a new overlay for the love of god.
give me them flags back, too.. I used to love the future when they had it in the past.
30-40K a month we’re talking about burnout lmao
People want more maps because variety is fun. It's not that complicated.
Lol maui taking my monesy to complexity take from twitter 😉😉😉👌👌
Nice!
Was the literal veganism thing confirmed? Maybe I've fallen for some bait, but I had heard that during the interview that was basically just joking code for not having sex. arT talked about having to go months without "meat" and how the org was forcing them to be "vegetarian".
Veganism isn't a diet either so I don't think it's true
Ax1Le
boomich
m0nesy
norbert/forester
patsi
Would be AWESOME.
#FREEMONESY
It's time to admit defeat on your astralis and dev1ce hating. That team is fire now!
Holy shit the Hooxi hate is insane. He has been good. He has better rating than karrigan, Aleksi and siuhy. Just because his star players suck ass (NiKo and Hunter) doesn't mean he's a bad IGL. His style is great for this team bcs it enables m0nesy to do m0nesy things. Imagine this team but with NiKo playing at the same lvl as he was in CSGO. Nobody would care. They should genuinely remove nexa and maybe hunter and replace them with Jimphatt and some other lurker
The problem NiKo has is that is he's trying to play like its still CSGO, he needs to proactively force gunfights, that's how you rifle in this game
@@chibifirestormbingo
38:30 Fun fact S1mple , monesy and KennyS are way less aggressive than this m0ron is saying , it is like he didn't really watch the game or paid any attention but just watched highlights . Both have less opening kills attempt , 3rd on their teams , players like Electronic , Boombl4 for NaVi , Hooxi , NiKo for G2 and NBK- , Apex always did more entry work all the time .
Another Fun Fact : Zywoo had the most entry attempt rate every single year he played on Vitality (2019-2023) and had more clutches than every other awper I mentioned before .
Although s1mple is the greatest of all time, with his performance in 2018 standing out as arguably the best year for any player in history, it's noteworthy that it was the only year where he made the most opening kill attempts on his team.
How many big championships and finals have your GOAT won, dickhead.