"Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by pure stupidity." -Hanlon's Law That said, they're pretty strict on first-time voters showing ID.
It depends on your state. Some states are very strict and allow only state IDs with picture or federal ID with pictures. Examples are: Driver's License, Passport, Federal Employee ID, etc. Each state is different, and the list is not exhaustive nor it is inclusive in all states. States like California, have lenient laws, and that is why sometimes fraud can happen.
IDs usually have people's home address and not their school address. His ID didn't match his current address. I got that same email from OSU. Here's what was in the referenced email: Ohio law requires every voter, upon appearing at the polling place to vote on Election Day, to announce his or her full name and current address and to provide proof of the voter's identity. This e-mail serves as proof of your current address as noted in The Ohio State University Student Information System (SIS).
People who are dependents of military personnel get a Military ID. Spouses, and children under 18, or under 25 if they're in college. His mom or dad may be in the military and he has a dependency card.
As I stated in another posting, a military ID is not a guarantee of US citizenship, unless you are an officer. Also, military ID's do not contain any reference to where you live, so they cannot be used to show you are a voter in that jurisdiction. Voters need to take responsibility to educate themselves on the eligibility laws of there area and then comply if they want to vote.
They are DoD IDs, but what throws them out has to do with laws state by state. For example, the state I live in accepts Fed and miltiary IDs as legit sources, meanwhile, other states say only state and federal IDs like passports and driver's license because those IDs are encrypted with a security chip. Today most states have that capability, Federal worker IDs have had them since 9/11/2001, and passports had them since 2006. Military, except those who have clearance, do not yet have them.
How is it antiquated? We use the electoral college system because we have states with individual state rights which are affected differently as a result of whatever policies the candidate might make.
As a vet I can say I support the actions of his polling place. First, military ID is NOT proof of U.S. citizenship UNLESS it shows an officer rank. All U.S. military officers are U.S. citizens. Not all enlisted are. Secondly, the military ID has not indication of WHERE you live so it is not a proof of residency. Know your residency laws and comply with them if you want to vote. To the poll workers, well done, for enforcing the law.
The Richland County Board of Elections didn't ask for any ID whatsoever when I went to vote. They asked for my name, looked me up in the computer, and gave me an electronic key card to vote.
He could have had a military ID from a parent. You can get a United States military ID for use on bases and such with a parent in the military, it is a valid form of identification and it even includes the parents information and rank on it.
Ya think! It is issued by the federal government, and has your picture. In Iowa, I have never been asked to show a voter card, even though I have it in my hand with my picture ID every time. I am asked my name, am looked up in a printout of registered voters, marked off, and asked to sign a paper saying I can vote. They always seem they don't want to look at documents as it takes time. A federal military ID trumps all state ID since your back ground checked DEEPLY.
Sounds like some voter profiling occured, call the voter hotline and report the polling station. Yes a military ID is a valid form of Identification, a service member in front of myself this morning used his, but he also had something that had his current address on it.
GUYS it has nothing to do with the fact that there was no military ID. Its the fact that the Dependent form or ACTIVE DUTY form simply DOESN'T list his address anywhere. Neither did any of that identification.
he may have a DEPENDENT military ID. All dependents of military personnel are entitled to having military ID cards. I would know having been a military dependent AND a prior service member of the United States Army.
I don't have a drivers licence either, he should have a state Id at least. I just used that and they didn't ask for anything else, also it was my first time voting so I had no idea what was going on. They probably thought the military Id was fake for some reason, same with a social security card
I just voted and I used my military ID. One look at it to see it was me, and there was no problem. I can't see how an official photo ID wouldn't be legal proof.
I voted today in Maryland. No ID asked at all. I just gave 'em my name. Seemed a little too relaxing, but it's bizzare how different states approach it.
before you became a citizen by enlisting. now you can only be a citizen to enlist. so either way i'm pretty sure the person serving the country can vote for who they want as their leader.
The reason a military ID wouldn't work is because you do not have to be an US citizen to be in the military. A social security card isn't a photo ID so that wouldn't work either.
All the results of OSU i've found go back to universities. So if he's in a university barring him being an early graduate. He's 18 or older which would mean national guard, reserves, or active military...
But a driver's license is? Non-citizens can have driver's licenses and that's all I had to show to vote. From the Oklahoma DMV website: "Non-US citizens residing in Oklahoma may apply for an Oklahoma driver's license, as long as they can provide proof that they are legally authorized to be in the United States, and meet all the other requirements." Neither of these are "voting passes" they are just proving you are who you say you are. It blows my mind how ignorant people are.
prior service currently enrolled in school, reserves ect..... just because you are currently a student doesn't mean you can have a military id. i have one because i am in the army reserves.
Fact check here: One doesn't have to be an American to be in the military! Translated a Military ID doesn't by itself give you the right to vote. Last I thought was I regestrered to vote.
I live in a more rural area when i go to vote i have to have my voter id card for the first time voting and every time after; however, as long as i have voted in the past they can just look me up if i have papers or id cards to prove who i am.
Military IDs aren't meant to be used for civilian identification. They're for getting on base and logging into computers (if you have a CAC card). OSU ID... pretty self-explanatory. SS Card has a name and number on it, but there's no way of figuring out whether or not the voter is indeed the person on the card.
In Republican inner circles, this is known as a feature, not a bug. They win elections when fewer people vote. They know this and want to keep turnout as low as possible.
its because he didnt have the paper sent to him by the university with his voting info everyone on campus from a different state had to have it to vote his military id was not the issue
it doesnt matter what I.D. you have. you have to get the form first. its been that way every time i have voted. and i had my military I.D. you were in the military and after i've seen this video... you lacked proper planning. something every military member should know
why does everyone think their vote matters? ELECTORAL college does. If you want something from BIG government then understand SMALL government. Teach the people that preaching equality that their hopes and dreams wont run our Nation but understanding stuff in their own backyards will allow them to see through the BS that is big government. If you thunk your vote diesnt matter ror the president your right. So go do your part and vote in the Electoral college you want. Simple isnt it?@xBris
A Military ID is issued by the Government.My mom works for the government, and you are able to vote with this particular id because its a source with a picture name, but you should have tooken your voters paper too:)
Did they require the "Voter Identification Card" from OSU at this specific voting station? If so, then of course they aren't going to let you vote, even if you have a Military ID. Rules are Rules, this is not some conspiracy people.
um yeah we dependent deserve to vote just like soldiers..we sacrifice alot just for our parents choices. we move with them we watch them go over , and unlike them often times people forget about us. we should be able to use dependent I.D
If this guy is in the military, why is his hair way outta regs? Even if he is in college atm and in the reserves or guard, his hair should not be that long. And there are different forms of military ID...for example, spouses or children dont get the same ID as an active duty soldier would get (CAC) ID card. And for the idiots who are saying everyone on the military is a US citizen is absolutley wrong. There's my 2 cents of wisdom.
my point is that they might not believe its real. It doesnt show where he is a resident of. Aaaaaannnnddd. he is probably not in the military. I dont care if he votes or not. I brought what i had to and didnt have a problem. This is a video about complaining. If he was in the military he would realize that he needs to just do what they told him to. he should be used to it. Sometimes theres no point in asking why...
Are Social Security cards valid picture IDs? Here, in Aruba, only passports, driver's licenses and cedulas count as valid I.D. AZV cards(general medical insurance) don't count, even though they have stronger security in the form of finger print information.
your state drivers licence/ID number is the one in the system thats why. your military one aint. for a guy going to OSU he should be smart enough to figure it out, but i guess not.
-over the last three months I've spoken to many dozens of active military and their families; from Air Force colonels to Marine grunts, to Navy enlisted and Annapolis grads and it's kind of funny how their views fly in the face of your blanket comment since they all basically say the same thing -Obama's blatent incompetence mixed with ego leads to total abborance of the guy. ps -what about the 500 higher ups who signed that "support Romney" petition?
Thank you. Took the words out of my mouth.
"Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by pure stupidity." -Hanlon's Law
That said, they're pretty strict on first-time voters showing ID.
It depends on your state. Some states are very strict and allow only state IDs with picture or federal ID with pictures. Examples are: Driver's License, Passport, Federal Employee ID, etc. Each state is different, and the list is not exhaustive nor it is inclusive in all states. States like California, have lenient laws, and that is why sometimes fraud can happen.
He should have been more prepared and made sure he knew exactly what was needed. It's no ones fault but his own.
IDs usually have people's home address and not their school address. His ID didn't match his current address. I got that same email from OSU. Here's what was in the referenced email:
Ohio law requires every voter, upon appearing at the polling place to vote on Election Day, to announce his or her full name and current address and to provide proof of the voter's identity.
This e-mail serves as proof of your current address as noted in The Ohio State University Student Information System (SIS).
"I didn't bring any forms of ID with my current address on them, as required by state law."
I even used my school ID today instead of my driver's license even though I had it on me. This is absurd that he wasn't able to use his MILITARY ID
At least he didn't have to wait hours in line before being denied.
once you're contracted, you get a military ID
People who are dependents of military personnel get a Military ID. Spouses, and children under 18, or under 25 if they're in college. His mom or dad may be in the military and he has a dependency card.
As I stated in another posting, a military ID is not a guarantee of US citizenship, unless you are an officer. Also, military ID's do not contain any reference to where you live, so they cannot be used to show you are a voter in that jurisdiction. Voters need to take responsibility to educate themselves on the eligibility laws of there area and then comply if they want to vote.
When I was in the military we had people from other countries enlisted. A military ID does not prove your a citizen. Register to vote.
They tell everyone way ahead of time which forms of ID are valid. This is to prevent fraud and I agree with it.
i just hate that people always act like dependents dont sacrifice because were not fighting. its annoying
Well, my buddy joined the national guard when he was 17 and still in high school, and he had him a military ID.
They are DoD IDs, but what throws them out has to do with laws state by state. For example, the state I live in accepts Fed and miltiary IDs as legit sources, meanwhile, other states say only state and federal IDs like passports and driver's license because those IDs are encrypted with a security chip. Today most states have that capability, Federal worker IDs have had them since 9/11/2001, and passports had them since 2006. Military, except those who have clearance, do not yet have them.
outrageous. Thanks for making this video.
people died to give us a right to vote.
How is it antiquated? We use the electoral college system because we have states with individual state rights which are affected differently as a result of whatever policies the candidate might make.
As a vet I can say I support the actions of his polling place. First, military ID is NOT proof of U.S. citizenship UNLESS it shows an officer rank. All U.S. military officers are U.S. citizens. Not all enlisted are. Secondly, the military ID has not indication of WHERE you live so it is not a proof of residency. Know your residency laws and comply with them if you want to vote. To the poll workers, well done, for enforcing the law.
He's likely a dependent. I had a military ID while I was in school since my father was in the military.
The Richland County Board of Elections didn't ask for any ID whatsoever when I went to vote. They asked for my name, looked me up in the computer, and gave me an electronic key card to vote.
He could have had a military ID from a parent. You can get a United States military ID for use on bases and such with a parent in the military, it is a valid form of identification and it even includes the parents information and rank on it.
I used my passport...They accepted it.
I've had a military ID since I was 10 because my dad was in the Air Force. I'll be keeping it until I turn 21.
Ya think! It is issued by the federal government, and has your picture. In Iowa, I have never been asked to show a voter card, even though I have it in my hand with my picture ID every time. I am asked my name, am looked up in a printout of registered voters, marked off, and asked to sign a paper saying I can vote. They always seem they don't want to look at documents as it takes time. A federal military ID trumps all state ID since your back ground checked DEEPLY.
A military ID is VALID ID to vote. File a complaint immediately.
Apparently the ID has to be state issued. My military ID and school ID doesn't work down here in Texas either.
Sounds like some voter profiling occured, call the voter hotline and report the polling station. Yes a military ID is a valid form of Identification, a service member in front of myself this morning used his, but he also had something that had his current address on it.
GUYS it has nothing to do with the fact that there was no military ID. Its the fact that the Dependent form or ACTIVE DUTY form simply DOESN'T list his address anywhere. Neither did any of that identification.
It is ridiculous that they wouldn't accept his military ID. What?
That is ridiculous.
A Dependent ID is easily forge-able some do not show the last digits of your social as prior
To report issues voting, call 1866-OUR-VOTE.
Bring a bill or bank statement with your name and address on it!
Glad they R checking ! REGISTER then vote !
he may have a DEPENDENT military ID. All dependents of military personnel are entitled to having military ID cards. I would know having been a military dependent AND a prior service member of the United States Army.
And they become invalid if it does not reflect your current rank, and if his ID is old it should still have his SSN on it. They changed that recently
you can also have a millitary ID if your parents currently serve
Maybe he is in the Reserves. Possession of a military ID does not mean you are a citizen on this country which is a requirement for voting.
I don't have a drivers licence either, he should have a state Id at least. I just used that and they didn't ask for anything else, also it was my first time voting so I had no idea what was going on. They probably thought the military Id was fake for some reason, same with a social security card
I just voted and I used my military ID. One look at it to see it was me, and there was no problem. I can't see how an official photo ID wouldn't be legal proof.
So lame that they're doing this. I just voted in California. I strolled in, poll officials were helpful and friendly, I was in and out...
He should've been able to vote. Here in Michigan, they accept Driver's License, State ID, Passport, and Military ID.
I voted today in Maryland. No ID asked at all. I just gave 'em my name. Seemed a little too relaxing, but it's bizzare how different states approach it.
That's stupid. All I did was show my college ID.
before you became a citizen by enlisting. now you can only be a citizen to enlist. so either way i'm pretty sure the person serving the country can vote for who they want as their leader.
He probably has a dependent card.
@SuperDeluxe80 not true.. you can still fly domestic with your military id.
The reason a military ID wouldn't work is because you do not have to be an US citizen to be in the military. A social security card isn't a photo ID so that wouldn't work either.
That is shocking!
All the results of OSU i've found go back to universities. So if he's in a university barring him being an early graduate. He's 18 or older which would mean national guard, reserves, or active military...
A Social Security Card is not supposed to be used for an i.d.
But a driver's license is? Non-citizens can have driver's licenses and that's all I had to show to vote.
From the Oklahoma DMV website:
"Non-US citizens residing in Oklahoma may apply for an Oklahoma driver's license, as long as they can provide proof that they are legally authorized to be in the United States, and meet all the other requirements."
Neither of these are "voting passes" they are just proving you are who you say you are.
It blows my mind how ignorant people are.
over here all we need is a drivers lic.
yeah, I'm thinking he wasn't registered.
prior service currently enrolled in school, reserves ect..... just because you are currently a student doesn't mean you can have a military id. i have one because i am in the army reserves.
because they dont do it on a government level. the state does it and state id is needed or a passport
You do know that some people serve in the military BEFORE they go to school, right?
Fact check here: One doesn't have to be an American to be in the military! Translated a Military ID doesn't by itself give you the right to vote. Last I thought was I regestrered to vote.
I live in a more rural area when i go to vote i have to have my voter id card for the first time voting and every time after; however, as long as i have voted in the past they can just look me up if i have papers or id cards to prove who i am.
Military IDs aren't meant to be used for civilian identification. They're for getting on base and logging into computers (if you have a CAC card).
OSU ID... pretty self-explanatory.
SS Card has a name and number on it, but there's no way of figuring out whether or not the voter is indeed the person on the card.
In Republican inner circles, this is known as a feature, not a bug. They win elections when fewer people vote. They know this and want to keep turnout as low as possible.
How is he in possession of a military ID if he's a student? If he's talking about his ROTC that doesnt count.
its because he didnt have the paper sent to him by the university with his voting info everyone on campus from a different state had to have it to vote his military id was not the issue
@navygirlhrd well said
it doesnt matter what I.D. you have. you have to get the form first. its been that way every time i have voted. and i had my military I.D. you were in the military and after i've seen this video... you lacked proper planning. something every military member should know
military id is a valid foem of identofication....they were wrong to turn him away!
why does everyone think their vote matters? ELECTORAL college does. If you want something from BIG government then understand SMALL government. Teach the people that preaching equality that their hopes and dreams wont run our Nation but understanding stuff in their own backyards will allow them to see through the BS that is big government. If you thunk your vote diesnt matter ror the president your right. So go do your part and vote in the Electoral college you want. Simple isnt it?@xBris
A Military ID is issued by the Government.My mom works for the government, and you are able to vote with this particular id because its a source with a picture name, but you should have tooken your voters paper too:)
could be national guard or reserves
your state ID owns all in the USA.
military ID owns all on a BASE.
school ID is worthless, might get a discount at fast food place.
Why wouldn't a military ID work they have a photo of the person on it and its from the goverment.
Yes it is.
Did they require the "Voter Identification Card" from OSU at this specific voting station? If so, then of course they aren't going to let you vote, even if you have a Military ID. Rules are Rules, this is not some conspiracy people.
Am I the only person that still has their birth certificate?
um yeah we dependent deserve to vote just like soldiers..we sacrifice alot just for our parents choices. we move with them we watch them go over , and unlike them often times people forget about us. we should be able to use dependent I.D
Its a Military Dependent ID Card.
Haha... I'm 18 and they didn't even ask for any form of id. They tried real hard to stop me.
that's funny because I drew a poorly drawn picture of myself on the back of an empty orbit's gum package and I was allowed to.
If this guy is in the military, why is his hair way outta regs? Even if he is in college atm and in the reserves or guard, his hair should not be that long. And there are different forms of military ID...for example, spouses or children dont get the same ID as an active duty soldier would get (CAC) ID card. And for the idiots who are saying everyone on the military is a US citizen is absolutley wrong. There's my 2 cents of wisdom.
peace and thc grease
you seem to miss the point. the point is if he has a DOD ID, why is it not being accepted?
SS doesn't have a picture on it so thats understandable. I have no idea about military id
my point is that they might not believe its real. It doesnt show where he is a resident of. Aaaaaannnnddd. he is probably not in the military. I dont care if he votes or not. I brought what i had to and didnt have a problem. This is a video about complaining. If he was in the military he would realize that he needs to just do what they told him to. he should be used to it. Sometimes theres no point in asking why...
A drivers lic would've been fine for him.
Which OSU? Did he specify? Honestly thats fucked, you serve our country, you should be able to to using a military ID.
I was denied to vote with my passport and voter registration card.... Also in the state of Ohio.
what military is he in? Hes probably a dependent and those ids look shady. If hes a reservist he hasnt had drill for like 6 months...
Are Social Security cards valid picture IDs?
Here, in Aruba, only passports, driver's licenses and cedulas count as valid I.D.
AZV cards(general medical insurance) don't count, even though they have stronger security in the form of finger print information.
Dude...Am I the only one noticing that his hair is WAYYY out of regs?
That's my alma mater, The Ohio State University in Columbus, Ohio
your state drivers licence/ID number is the one in the system thats why.
your military one aint.
for a guy going to OSU he should be smart enough to figure it out, but i guess not.
WTF? i was able to vote yesterday using my V.A. card. how strange.
was he in his correct voting district?...
I thought military IDs were DoD/Federal IDs?
...should of had your state id...big deal...
what difference would that make? reservist and NG serves in war along side active duty
how about stop talking about the ins and outs of government ids especially DOD ones....
-over the last three months I've spoken to many dozens of active military and their families; from Air Force colonels to Marine grunts, to Navy enlisted and Annapolis grads and it's kind of funny how their views fly in the face of your blanket comment since they all basically say the same thing -Obama's blatent incompetence mixed with ego leads to total abborance of the guy.
ps -what about the 500 higher ups who signed that "support Romney" petition?