Preston, this is incredible. I am so excited that you have partnered with this group! I was in Kyiv at the truck handover in August, and it was the most amazing experience.
You're full of shyt. None of this is true. Typical slava ukraini/military industrial complex bootlicking propagandist --- either lying or just completely clueless
People who chose to be there will always fight better than those who were forced to be there. Russian propaganda works very well and with Bakhmut and Avdiivka victories on their side it is very easy to recruit an eager fighter. Russians are still very deep in the USSR victory. Giving some guy a very well rewarded opportunity to fight in a huge war, which the government has 100% guaranteed it will win, is huge incentive. I was born in the Baltic states, we have a good view of the Russian mindset, their culture through media etc.
I'd love to say with confidence that we're better than this but it's hard not to bring up WW1. I think in the face of an existential war, most European nations would also rely primarily on poorly trained conscripts.
@@JaKingScomezThat’s an absolute lie. There absolutely were assaults like that this year and even Russian reporters were saying it and approving of it.
As a retired career Marine the concept of “disposable forces” sent in as a routine matter to catch bullets blows my mind. How do you get any kind of loyalty? You don’t. You only have compliance via the threat of violence.
On a related Note, those heavy losses also lead to brain loss of trained and experienced soldiers, leading to higher losses, leading to demand for more Expendables. A vicious cycle.
It's funny you say that coming from a branch in the military regularly used as disposable cannon fodder for other branches. Looking at some of the cold war doctrines you had entire divisions specifically positioned to be cannon fodder and do little more than delay. Just because they don't explicitaly state something doesn't mean it isn't true.
@@johanneslinnemann6660 You're right, its insane to have that mentality in 2024. Its a barbaric and almost medieval in ways. I can't wrap my head around knowing your life is used as bait. Where would you find honour in that?
If you are in a Russian prison, your life is essentially over. Eating gruel in cold cells with a prison hierarchy (Thieves) probably makes life more miserable for most. If you get out, society dismisses you. To be free for a bit, to see the trees and the air may be worth it to them.
@@tomnps1671 I can see that it's an escape for some. However, I have a feeling the majority of prison conscripts do not finish their contract. Essentially a death sentence. I can also understand taking a risk of potential death is worth it when your prison sentence is decades long. I guess its how much of a gambling man you're.
I read the Russians are trying to pass off North Koreans as people from some of Russia's remote Oblasts because they have similar features to Koreans. Reminds me of a Seinfeld episode trying to pass off Dominicans as Cubans. Ukraine has actually captured North Koreans in the battle space.
@@voroboosherthanks for being wrong again vladbot from STP - when are you volunteering cow ard or you going to let NK and the TikTok army fight for your 3-day SMO 😂
what Preston did not mention is that even the Russians are running low on convicts so much they had to close down many prisons all over Russia now what they are using as disposable infantry are foreign volunteers from India, Africa, Nepal Cuba etc. these are the new Storm Z however due to recent media focus on them, they are also running low so now the new Storm Z units purpotedly are the North Koreans. we shall see..
did Russia running out troops as media say on Feb 2023 ? are now Russia running out troops again ? OMG 2025 Russia running out troops again and Kursk offensive already get kick out and whole eastern front has been taken by Russian
@@Rweda255russia was running out of troops. They just had to keep on finding different short methods to alleviate the problems. Examples here: Summer of 2022: cannibalizing of training units during the Battle of Sievierodonetsk Partial Mobilization of the Autumn of 2022 as a result of the setbacks of the Kharkiv Counter Offensive Giving contracts to violent prisoners for Bahkmut Coercion of foreign citizens of Asian and African countries to sign contracts And now we are seeing regular North Korean military, in likely the thousands, that will eventually be sent to at least towards the border areas. Shoigu asking for a 2nd mobilization earlier this year before being reassigned A military that isn’t “running out” wouldn’t be doing these actions. Yes, we will never see russia “run out of troops” but they will always be not enough to continue it long term. russia will keep on finding solutions for manpower but at a cost.
This is just hearsay, but Russian and Belarusian friends told me how they tried to deal with dangerous convicts, that wanted to return to civilian life, instead joining the Wagner group as a normal soldier. When Prigozhin was still alive, if Wagner superiors believed the convict could not turn off the “murder switch” (AKA the convict was an innate sadistic psychopath), then the next time the convict was sent out to draw fire from the Ukrainian machine gun nest, the Russian convict would “accidentally” be killed by Russian artillery.
@@Seth9809 All the political prisoners? How many "political" prisoners were sitting in Russian jails prior to this war? Could Great Britain not host a way more effective army with their political prisoners?
12:58 that’s crazy to think about. Imagine this in the US. A battalion scheduled to attack in a few days is assigned a company of former prisoners from some Texas prison, and that Battalion commander is told to use that penal company as a probing element broken down into fireteams.
@@jameshauf9044 what do you even mean by this comment. Are you just stating the obvious, or are you saying this as a justification for using prisoners in this manner?
A little correction: there are no convict units in Ukraine. The former convicts are dispersed among the general population of the army. It is better this way.
@@lettheflamestakeover7374 it’s a joke. i’m joking that in the recent war, russian training standards have dropped so low now that even i, who’s never served the military, now can be a russian spec ops
@@lettheflamestakeover7374 well sarcasm is a thing, and partially it is true. story after story of russian conscripts getting sent to the front after firing 3 magazines of ammo and that’s basically it, i’m just taking the facts and adding a bit more absurdity to them, hence a joke
ALL troops are disposable. Just like ALL corporate employees are replaceable. Doesn't matter what country or government you are talking about. It's just True.
Being a soldier that is considered entirely expendable is an awful fate indeed. If I hadnt believed my commanders would have done everything they could to keep us alive I would have had 0 morale. But employing criminals who are not a dangerous risk to your society but looking to reduce their sentences isnt a bad source of manpower in a pinch.
One thing no one talks about is Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu being replaced by Andrei Belousov seemed to have a huge impact on efficiency as well. Like night and day for Russia with him in the role as Minster of Defense.
Can't help but be reminded of the Boer Wars. Despite being numerically outnumbered, the Boer put up one hell of a fight; but eventually lost to attrition tactics.
@@scatmanz2496 ah no not quite so simple. The Zulus hated the English. Most of the boer republics land was bought or gifted after helping the local tribes sort out disputes. The english promised not land owning black men land if they supported the fought with the english. None of them got said land.
Good information. You are the ONLY guy that i know on youtube, that has specified that aspect of superior numbers: wear down of the defenders by constant presure, not necesarily strong presure.
He already did. To give you a rundown, it’s kinda different on both why they’re using them, and how they’re using them. Russia doesn’t NEED to recruit convicts to sustain their forces, but they use them anyways because losing a convict soldier is better than losing a volunteer contraktnik. Whereas Ukraine needs them because Ukraine has nowhere near the population of Russia, and needs more sources of manpower to sustain their forces. Russia uses their convict soldiers as disposable cannon fodder, using them like supporting forces that are simply meant to constantly grind down the enemy at high cost to themselves. Whereas the convicts in Ukraine were actually given heavy equipment, professional training, and veteran leadership. Intending them to be used as regular professional forces.
@@dangersnail5839That’s misinformation. Ukraine doesn’t “need” to use convicts either. They choose to. They still haven’t drafted a single person younger than 25. There is also ZERO evidence on the equipment and training the convicts are given. You’ve made that up. I doubt anyone will trust them to serve alongside them, with a weapon. My guess is that they’re being used primarily in support functions, but I also don’t know for sure. Neither do you.
I'm sorry if what I will ask was already answered but when you said that during the Bakmut battle the casualty ratio was 1:4 in favour to Ukraine, were talking about wounded and kia right? Bc according to some reports Ukraine suffered 10k kia and incapacitated casualties while the Russians suffered 20k kia, essentially 1:2 casualty rate in favour to Ukraine but still only half of what was being reported. Just want to be sure that's it
I disagree with Kaufman's assessment that these tactics were effective. "Effective" would be taking Bakhmut in a matter of days or weeks. The fact that they could only gain a block of the city in that time with horrible losses shows how ineffective these tactics were. Ukraine was happy to wear down Russian/Wagner forces in such a lopsided meat-grinder. The main effect was ultimately the Wagner mutiny, which was the beginning of the end for Russia as a state (or at the very least Putin). The affect on Russia's fighting effort was worse: it settled their expectations as low as they can go. Commanders saw that meat-assault tactics could gain a pace of advance that was acceptable to the Kremlin. They also realized that they could send their forces to die and embezzle their pay. So the Russian army oriented itself to supporting these failing tactics because they don't need to care about actually winning.
@@gardnert1 people underestimate the amount of ressources Ukraine spent to hold on to bakhmut indefinitely, something even Ukrainians and US officials have said and criticized. People trying to portray the battle as "haha Russians can't even capture this small city in days or weeks, lol" as if Ukraine didn't sent most of it's veteran brigades to defend the city, they fought valiantly and had significant casualties so minimizing their sacrifice seems a insult to their sacrifice. People are forgetting that Ukraine did everything they could to prevent it's capture, Zelesnksy literally promised that the city would never fall that it became his motto "bakhmut holds", he even went as far as to say the results of the war are tied to Bakhmut's fate. It's crazy to hear some guy online saying bs like this while the Ukrainian soldiers on the ground talked about how Wagner was fighting well and etc...
To conclude, the Battle for Bakhmut was brutal as both sides kept throwing in more and more ressources to either defend it or capture it. And of course the winner was the side with the most air support, artillery fire power and more manpower, go figure. Saying that the Russians were so incompetent that it took they so many months is like slapping the face of the Ukrainian defenders that fought hard and nail to defend it at all cost, instead of saying "yeah it took them too many months bc we fought like hell" nope people online are saying "lol they are so incompetent that it took they so many months", and people like you is only going to down play Ukraine's cause.
Thank you so much, sir, for your great reporting that we're not getting anywhere else. You're great, and we're lucky to have you! Now, don't get a big head. LOL
Convicts absolutely got the best deal. They get a free card by going to Ukraine then come back home free to do absolutely anything they want. The latest laws allow criminals to bypass prison altogether by going to Ukraine. So basically, you can do whatever you want, literally, over and over again. And if you have money, you can go to Ukraine "on paper" so to speak
They get sent straight to the front with little to no training, they are lied to about money and freedom after deployment, they are sent in to suicide mission after suicide mission, and the penal units can be refused medical treatment, I can hardly say that's a good deal...
That’s if you survive the hundreds of meat waves you have to go through. 99%+ don’t survive these meatwaves. They’re expected to die and not collect the money.
The catch is you have to be rich and if your rich enough to buy your way out of service, there probably committing white collar crimes like embezzling and you'd bribe your way out befoew your conscription paper work was even processed 😂😂 the catch 22 is for murders an rapist, they may have there sentence voided but once there service is up in a penal unit, there sent a conscription notice the same day because there now release as free citizen, that are eligible for conscription. 😂😂
14:26 "real training on the battlefield under fire", this is entirely consistent with what local proxy leaders like Strelkov have said about their conscripts, the hope that the survivors would pick up what they need to know during their time on the line (as discussed by Perun).
This guy will never get what war is. He knows only insurgency. He never had experience with the war. Just imagine if he'd learn next day about what McNamara did during Vietnam war. He would be in shock i bet. 100,000 of US citizens with Low-Iq were thrown to the frontline as absolute disposable meat. Imagine if he learn now what Forrest Gump film was all about. Shoking, i know.
Every army throughout time considers troops as more or less disposable. Some are more valued than others. But if mission success demands a sacrifice...
Not really. For example, most western armies, even on a company level attack, considers the death of a single soldier a major event that requires serious reconsideration on the operation. For example, at the height of the Afghanistan war, the United States was losing roughly below one soldier every day. And the US Army considered it to be a military crisis. And you could argue that this value of life placed on the soldiers makes western armies weaker, but it also means that due to the western emphasis on conservation of strength, western forces would last longer during a high intensity armed conflict.
@@dangersnail5839 Good point. The US has lost 7,080 troops since the start of the GWOT in 2001. That's a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of deaths for Ukraine and Russia.
@@yellowtunes2756 Yes yes, farmers with Toyotas, T-55s, BMP-1s, BTR-60s, MANPADS, and ATGMs. Soviets fought against the afghans too, and the afghans were even more poorly equipped back then. And lost 4x as many in combat as the US did.
The Russian military has used this sort of tactic before. It isn’t new. They had convict and punishment battalions during WWII. The military personnel that committed some offense against military order were moved to these forces and used to soften German strongpoints. They simply poured bodies at the German invaders. Remember Stalin ordered “not one step back”. Russian troops were forbidden retreat as an option. Even then their military was composed of poorly trained and armed troops strengthened by a core of better equipped and trained soldiers. At Stalingrad Russian forces advanced with soldiers unarmed with instruction to pick up fallen comrades’ weapons and continue the fight.
Hey Preston, around 10:00 there's a tiny line at the bottom of the frame where we can see your body... didn't move the overlaying footage down far enough 😂
It’s worth remembering the conversion algebra, western platoons are usually 39-74, in Russia platoons are 22 men, company sized formations about 76 men It is slightly easier to train
When your president checks his watch and doesn't give a crap about military deaths, I don't think Americans can comment on how expendqble someone elses forces are.
The believe in such an "honest" content about "human waves" e.t.c. lead us to situation, when russians controlling the sky, have more artillery, taking UA ground non-stop and outside of short mobilization never had to do so in contrast to Ukraine. Stop lying to yourself, thinking that this somehow will help Ukraine. Time to cut the deal, or we will end up with yet another country in line with Iraq and Afghanistan. It seams that we never learn from our mistakes.
What is enormous they did unthinkable thing. To this day soldiers were grouped to have higher morale and fire effectivness. Especially Russians always needed oficer supervision. And now they send 2-5 team to fight alone. And not for scouts or sof, but for low quality infantry. This is really innovative on a full blown battlefield.
This entire video: "This uninvolved guy said..." "That uninvolved guy said..." "Prigozhin said (nevermind him saying it just to get a reaction from russians to hopefully help his rebellion later)..." Not a single interview, five (5) drone photos. Great reporting
You should look for the wagner pmc leader's interview. the convict recruitments stopped, but if anyone watched the full video of prison vid. he stated rules for joining wagner, History Legend covers the wagner PMC including it's commanders.
Wagner had losses because they are a merc group and don't have full combined-arms. Also there was a shell shortage. Now that their tactics have been consumed by the regular army losses are far more manageable than Bakmut days.
They had tanks, artillery and a few Su-25s. The Russian army also accused Wagner of requesting so many shells the rest of the Russian army was suffering because of it.
Because I was halfway through typing a comment when autoplay moved it from my last video onto this one, my screen didn't update properly, so where it says what channel this is, apparently, this video is an upload by The Onion! Which is quite a change of style for them, this content is a different kind of comedy to their usual stuff!
Sure...Ukraine 5 waves of forced mobilization and 6th on its way...Also theres a proposal to a Verkhovna Rada to allow forced mobilization of 18-25 y.o men...its OBVIOUS that attrition goes in Ukraines favor😂😂😂
Ukraine has to be careful with troop deployment as they don't have the population to do meat waves, as the Russians do and have done for the last 100 years.
@@Kelvinpaul4 Yet, we never seen any evidence of those supposed meat waves. Western propaganda based on the battle of Stalingrad, and not the real stories, but from Hollywood movies.
@@Kelvinpaul4 Loooool I am amazed and really amused sometimes by the people's way of thinking. So why the Ukrainians keep hijacking people from the streets and chuck them on the front? The mobilization in Ukraine has never stopped if you are not aware of this. Wondering why is that? Shortage of people probably? And why is this shortage of people? Not because they lost 31k, is it?
Bakhmut was a bizarre, the russians say they held on to entrench the Ukrainians and build up reserves and the uks say they where trying to waste russian lives, overall the city fell, tens of thousands died and the lines moved back to the cities behind, kramatorsk and serverodonetsk and the patter just repeats it self.
Reminds me of the Dirty Dozen one of my favorite movies. I frankly have no trouble at all with penal units. I guarantee you if WW3 starts you will see US Penal Units again just like WW2.
RU only stopped using convicts so they could 'fit in' in the modern world. RU simply turned the switch back on. This was common practice in WWII and countless other wars started by RU.
@@zedeyejoe Do you not think officers ordering recon by fire think there are acceptable losses? Also, NATO has not fought an attritional war. Nor a trench war.
@@danielallan8061 In the Russian army you do what you are told, end of. As Stalin said: 'It takes a brave man to be a coward in the Soviet army'. But attacks regardless of losses are not smart. I don't think NATO has ever fought any fought any sort of war. But the troops of its countries have, many of them. You are right the West does not fight attritional wars, they are hard, brutal and fast. Air power is used to a great extent. Air power is not something Ukraine has not had access to. Hopefully the F16s will change that. They have proved to be highly effective in other wars.
@@offjofce Unless someone can provide me with a valid source, I'm going to assume that it is simply another "trust me bro, I'm an American" source. It probably comes from the RU penal battalions of WW2.
I quote famous green politician of my country, who actually was eco fascist. He didnt value human life at all. He was asked how he feels about famine deaths in Africa, and why its always the poor countries who take the hardest blows. He said, he dont care who dies and where, as long as they die.
As a veteran these tactics make me sick to my stomach. Russia has not made substantial gains in this war with these tactics and could have had combat effective infantry by now if they actually took the time to train them. Instead they throw lives away because it’s cheaper/easier. I have no words.
0:27-0:40 NO better deal bcuz then they'll just be admitted in the same position. Think about they go home, not back to jail, however, they'll be re-assigned just like everyone else. Now that they're free, they're considered applicable to be treated like the rest. Meaning: they'll be in this war zone until it's over as well too.
This is an attritional war and high casualties are not a "Russian phenomenon". The Brits had 60 000 casualties in the Battle of Verdun and this just on the first day.
What’s so sad in the way they used exactly as ‘disposable’ never takes into account that to these husbands, sons, fathers and brothers, they were NOT disposable! Mothers and wives grieved every bit as much as regular killed troops mothers and wives. Their kids still will grow up fatherless.
Remember Napoleon burn down Moscow the Russians did not give up. The Third Reich had millions of Russian prisoners and made it to the Volga river still the Russians did not give up. How can you hope they will give up this time?
Thanks, pretty interesting to hear how they used those inmates in the Wagner group and how the Russian army used the same tactiics but kept the inmates in the army.
It wasn't until the beginning of February that UA started using regular army as the majority of troops in the fight. Until then the majority of troops came from TDF with a mixture of national guards units and border security elements. By February theses forces were attricted to a non functional capacity.
Walther Model noticed that Russian attacks tended to be more successful against a strongpoint defense, and whenever possible he used continuous lines. I can't help but wonder how what the difference in training is, if any, for these troops.
If you were speaking German sure, but as it’s written and sounded out in English, it’s with the W. You’ll find W is used by the vast majority of folks who have studied the organization since their inception.
100% disposable they are!!! In Afghanistan Wagners attacked an american position,so the US govrmt asked the ruzzians if there were ruzzian militars fighting the american position,and they say:"NO".So the US sent some troops and they anihilated them...Ruzzia wasn't able to speak a word about it.
IIRC Progozhin himself admitted in a translated viddy that Wagner lost 60,000 killed and wounded taking Bakhmut out of 78,000 engaged. Those are prohibitive losses by practically any standard and would hardly seem to be sustainable. Which may explain why an expanded Russian military now often seeks to at least "operationally" encircle strongly held bastions like Vuhledar and Selidove by attacking their flanks. Trouble is, given the prevalence and lethality of drones along much of the front even attacking flanks can be costly as open fields---hitherto considered great environments for armored assaults---are now potential killing grounds from above.
Half of the video is like „Somebody heard from a friend, that heard from other friend… so we can make the conclusion „ , but the comments are even better!
Wagner actually sounds like they use traditional Russian tactics with brutal enforcement of discipline on highly active hardern infantry, who are able to absorb large amounts of casualties. Seen as purely disposable. And like the Soviet/ Russian army put on the open field, they can't coordinate large maneuvers, become disjointed while not using the concept of combined arms as any equivalent modern military would cut them to pieces.
What you refer to as disposable troops is actually called "skirmishers" in military nomenclature. Skirmishers were "invented" inside the envelope of organised, battalion sized infantry in the new organisation of the French, Napoleonic military structure. The skirmishers were used as diversion and in shaping operations to allow line infantry to operate in its traditional firing lines by targeting officers, supply routes,ambushes and generally by being a nuisance for the opposing infantry. The concept died away after the Napoleonic Wars but returned a year or so into the trench wars of WW1 and was expanded and refined into the German storm troops. The concept was further developed during the inter war period and evolved into commando units and the early special forces. At the end of WW2, line infantry essentially ceased to exist and all took on aspects of skirmishing units. Post WW2, in the era of peacekeeping operations and insurgent wars, skirmishing again fell out of favour and was supplanted by manoeuvre warfare, heavily relying on armour as the assault forces. Now, with the re-emergence of trench warfare in Ukraine, it has come full circle and skirmishers are again ruling the battlefield.
They're not skirmishers. They're not diversion. They're assaulters that deploy in waves. Some waves have diggers who carry entrenching tools to build hasty fighting position. They're not expected to use them. It's for the next assault. Some waves are "mules" who carry ammunition and supplies to these fighting positions. So what you get is a creeping advance that covers terrain in the open at the cost of troops. So the lower skilled men go first.
and also foreign volunteers in Z units, yah I watched Russian foreign volunteers videos and it seems these days the majority of recruits in Z units are foreign volunteers and they put in some convicts in there or Russian soliders who pissed off their officers. the death rate is 75 percent by end of the month for these Z units. life expectancy a few days.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD let’s assume what you said is true What kind of threat did Iraq had against America ? Their whole military was wiped off by US Air Force They just came back from a painful 8 years of war with Iran so basically Every experienced soldier is either dead or seriously injured Wtf man use your brain for once
I wonder how effective that drone gun is. I assume it's some kind of jamming device. Also, what are the dots around the 5:00-5:45 marks? It appears to be IR related; reflections off a patch or something? It's a cluster of those dots aimed in one spot, and the speaker steps in and out of them.
WW1 troops were considered disposable. It took 4 years for all countries to start running low on men. With a a birth rate that might happen faster in this war.
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What's the option for Russian males? They're imprisoned if they refuse military service and then are forcibly conscripted as prisoners?
Preston, this is incredible. I am so excited that you have partnered with this group! I was in Kyiv at the truck handover in August, and it was the most amazing experience.
@@LoriKasprzak-kc7xcthey can band together and rise up against their oppressors as Ukraine is doing.
@@Schumacher73you want him sooooo bad don’t lie
You're full of shyt. None of this is true. Typical slava ukraini/military industrial complex bootlicking propagandist --- either lying or just completely clueless
People who chose to be there will always fight better than those who were forced to be there.
Russian propaganda works very well and with Bakhmut and Avdiivka victories on their side it is very easy to recruit an eager fighter.
Russians are still very deep in the USSR victory. Giving some guy a very well rewarded opportunity to fight in a huge war, which the government has 100% guaranteed it will win, is huge incentive.
I was born in the Baltic states, we have a good view of the Russian mindset, their culture through media etc.
well depends, dont see lots of young people mostly 40+ alcoholics, convicted and drug addicts.
Это был смешной в своей глупости пост))
@@РоманР.Жexplain?
Lol Implying Russians have minds?
@@РоманР.Жit's so true it's even funny
The use of disposable troops was SOP for Russia in WWII
I'd love to say with confidence that we're better than this but it's hard not to bring up WW1. I think in the face of an existential war, most European nations would also rely primarily on poorly trained conscripts.
@@JaKingScomezThat’s an absolute lie. There absolutely were assaults like that this year and even Russian reporters were saying it and approving of it.
@@afcgeo882like the -8 army rangers in Kursk?😂
@@afcgeo882I have all their names on my phone😂 👏 🇺🇸
@@afcgeo882Adams Sanchez Hernandez Johnson just to name a few😂❤ poor little Pvt. and SSGT.
As a retired career Marine the concept of “disposable forces” sent in as a routine matter to catch bullets blows my mind. How do you get any kind of loyalty? You don’t. You only have compliance via the threat of violence.
On a related Note, those heavy losses also lead to brain loss of trained and experienced soldiers, leading to higher losses, leading to demand for more Expendables. A vicious cycle.
Either fight, survive and go home. Or don't fight, survive and go back go jail.
it's a slave nation
You may not know it, but you were lad, recon by fire ring any bells?
It's funny you say that coming from a branch in the military regularly used as disposable cannon fodder for other branches.
Looking at some of the cold war doctrines you had entire divisions specifically positioned to be cannon fodder and do little more than delay.
Just because they don't explicitaly state something doesn't mean it isn't true.
Imagine being so worthless your life is used as bait. Thats rough
What I find even crazier is the fact that there are supporters of russia who cheer for these kind of tactics.
@@johanneslinnemann6660 You're right, its insane to have that mentality in 2024. Its a barbaric and almost medieval in ways. I can't wrap my head around knowing your life is used as bait. Where would you find honour in that?
If you are in a Russian prison, your life is essentially over. Eating gruel in cold cells with a prison hierarchy (Thieves) probably makes life more miserable for most. If you get out, society dismisses you. To be free for a bit, to see the trees and the air may be worth it to them.
@@tomnps1671 I can see that it's an escape for some. However, I have a feeling the majority of prison conscripts do not finish their contract. Essentially a death sentence. I can also understand taking a risk of potential death is worth it when your prison sentence is decades long. I guess its how much of a gambling man you're.
Not bait, they are essentially like marine raiders. Wagner units had many former Spetsnaz as well
I read the Russians are trying to pass off North Koreans as people from some of Russia's remote Oblasts because they have similar features to Koreans. Reminds me of a Seinfeld episode trying to pass off Dominicans as Cubans. Ukraine has actually captured North Koreans in the battle space.
People all around the world fight as mercenaries on Ua side so why not 😅
They actually do share a border crazy enough
Buryatia is where you’re thinking
@@voroboosherthanks for being wrong again vladbot from STP - when are you volunteering cow ard or you going to let NK and the TikTok army fight for your 3-day SMO 😂
They volunteer. These North Koreans clearly aren't volunteering.@@voroboosher
what Preston did not mention is that even the Russians are running low on convicts so much they had to close down many prisons all over Russia now what they are using as disposable infantry are foreign volunteers from India, Africa, Nepal Cuba etc. these are the new Storm Z however due to recent media focus on them, they are also running low so now the new Storm Z units purpotedly are the North Koreans. we shall see..
@@kamilhorvat8290 did he?
Yeah, I bet the Russian screws didn't think for a moment they would be meat on the front lines.
did Russia running out troops as media say on Feb 2023 ?
are now Russia running out troops again ?
OMG
2025 Russia running out troops again and Kursk offensive already get kick out and whole eastern front has been taken by Russian
@@Rweda255russia was running out of troops. They just had to keep on finding different short methods to alleviate the problems. Examples here:
Summer of 2022: cannibalizing of training units during the Battle of Sievierodonetsk
Partial Mobilization of the Autumn of 2022 as a result of the setbacks of the Kharkiv Counter Offensive
Giving contracts to violent prisoners for Bahkmut
Coercion of foreign citizens of Asian and African countries to sign contracts
And now we are seeing regular North Korean military, in likely the thousands, that will eventually be sent to at least towards the border areas.
Shoigu asking for a 2nd mobilization earlier this year before being reassigned
A military that isn’t “running out” wouldn’t be doing these actions. Yes, we will never see russia “run out of troops” but they will always be not enough to continue it long term. russia will keep on finding solutions for manpower but at a cost.
@@denniskasiyan4938 did AFU doing it to?
This is just hearsay, but Russian and Belarusian friends told me how they tried to deal with dangerous convicts, that wanted to return to civilian life, instead joining the Wagner group as a normal soldier.
When Prigozhin was still alive, if Wagner superiors believed the convict could not turn off the “murder switch” (AKA the convict was an innate sadistic psychopath), then the next time the convict was sent out to draw fire from the Ukrainian machine gun nest, the Russian convict would “accidentally” be killed by Russian artillery.
Also, now Russia has less convicts to pay for. Decimated the worst of their society for a win in battle. Ruthless yet effective
Considering all the political prisoners... Are you sure?
@@Seth9809
All the political prisoners? How many "political" prisoners were sitting in Russian jails prior to this war?
Could Great Britain not host a way more effective army with their political prisoners?
@@Seth9809 Political prisoners most probably didn't volunteer to join Wagner? I mean, it's just common sense.
@@pwrm8721.....a lot. Russia is a full blown Autocracy. They were imprisoning people for holding up blank pieces of paper in front of red square.
I bet they are making more future convicts during this war….
Nobody gets discharged for bad conduct they're just marked as expendable. They call it getting zeroed out.
Now the term is "red flag", as in football/soccer
12:58 that’s crazy to think about.
Imagine this in the US.
A battalion scheduled to attack in a few days is assigned a company of former prisoners from some Texas prison, and that Battalion commander is told to use that penal company as a probing element broken down into fireteams.
US had way worse - McNamara's idiots
Plenty of folks in us prisons...
@@jameshauf9044 what do you even mean by this comment. Are you just stating the obvious, or are you saying this as a justification for using prisoners in this manner?
A little correction: there are no convict units in Ukraine. The former convicts are dispersed among the general population of the army. It is better this way.
Because trust me bro?
@@TheChiefonator???
@@TheChiefonator because it only makes sense
Dang. How'd they do?
@@chozer1oh cool so you can explain then?
I always appreciate the work you do! Thanks Preston, keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
hey look ma! i’ve never even talked to a recruiter but russian training standards make me vdv qualified!!
Ironically I met a former Spetsnaz this week😂stop lying. He told me I won’t survive the work required
Another thing just like you many Spetsnaz get out of the force in their late 20s because they are no longer as capable
@@lettheflamestakeover7374 it’s a joke. i’m joking that in the recent war, russian training standards have dropped so low now that even i, who’s never served the military, now can be a russian spec ops
@@jabr0n1if you’re going to joke😂you should make it true at least. “It’s funny cuz it’s true”😂comes from me insulting overweight people
@@lettheflamestakeover7374 well sarcasm is a thing, and partially it is true. story after story of russian conscripts getting sent to the front after firing 3 magazines of ammo and that’s basically it, i’m just taking the facts and adding a bit more absurdity to them, hence a joke
ALL troops are disposable. Just like ALL corporate employees are replaceable.
Doesn't matter what country or government you are talking about. It's just True.
Love your content keep up the great work ❤🔥
Thanks a lot!
@@PrestonStewart you’re better than TV. All the new stations are fake news.
Being a soldier that is considered entirely expendable is an awful fate indeed. If I hadnt believed my commanders would have done everything they could to keep us alive I would have had 0 morale. But employing criminals who are not a dangerous risk to your society but looking to reduce their sentences isnt a bad source of manpower in a pinch.
I wonder if the Afghanistan withdrawal soldiers thought their commanders would keep them alive.
I have been waiting for your coverage in what's happening in Ukraine. Hope you will cover about the North Koreans there too.
Holding on the NK soldier story for now. Feels very rumor based at the moment. Hopefully we get some pictures or videos soon to serve as confirmation
Zelensky was the first who said about NK soldiers fighting for Russia, you must believe him(no)
"I hear is just a rumor"
10k north Koreans fighting for the russians now
One thing no one talks about is Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu being replaced by Andrei Belousov seemed to have a huge impact on efficiency as well. Like night and day for Russia with him in the role as Minster of Defense.
Thank you Preston!! Your support is amazing not only for Ukraine but for eastern Europe in general!
Can't help but be reminded of the Boer Wars. Despite being numerically outnumbered, the Boer put up one hell of a fight; but eventually lost to attrition tactics.
Ja nee ongelukkig het ons, ons geveg teen die Britse koloniale magte verloor
@@danielstruwig3078 ...easy for you to say. 🥸
Because the Africans helped the British fight the Boars at that time.. the Africans see the Boars as the invaders.
@@scatmanz2496 ah no not quite so simple. The Zulus hated the English. Most of the boer republics land was bought or gifted after helping the local tribes sort out disputes. The english promised not land owning black men land if they supported the fought with the english. None of them got said land.
It's been humbling seeing your channel evolve and I'm glad to be here to witness it. Stay safe out there!
Good information. You are the ONLY guy that i know on youtube, that has specified that aspect of superior numbers: wear down of the defenders by constant presure, not necesarily strong presure.
The classical "human wave" vs today's "meat wave".
Thanks!
Hey thank you so much for your support! That really means a lot sir, truly.
Thanks for the in-depth report! Barely heard about Wagner tactics using prisoners on other videos, so have always wanted to know more.
I feel you should also talk about Ukraine’s use of convicts in the battlefield.
He already did.
To give you a rundown, it’s kinda different on both why they’re using them, and how they’re using them.
Russia doesn’t NEED to recruit convicts to sustain their forces, but they use them anyways because losing a convict soldier is better than losing a volunteer contraktnik.
Whereas Ukraine needs them because Ukraine has nowhere near the population of Russia, and needs more sources of manpower to sustain their forces.
Russia uses their convict soldiers as disposable cannon fodder, using them like supporting forces that are simply meant to constantly grind down the enemy at high cost to themselves.
Whereas the convicts in Ukraine were actually given heavy equipment, professional training, and veteran leadership. Intending them to be used as regular professional forces.
@@dangersnail5839That’s misinformation. Ukraine doesn’t “need” to use convicts either. They choose to. They still haven’t drafted a single person younger than 25. There is also ZERO evidence on the equipment and training the convicts are given. You’ve made that up. I doubt anyone will trust them to serve alongside them, with a weapon. My guess is that they’re being used primarily in support functions, but I also don’t know for sure. Neither do you.
@@afcgeo882😂😂😂bro the first year you were bussing 16 yr olds to enlist, not even joking. I saw video with my own eyes
@@afcgeo882 bot. Didn't even bother changing the PFP from the other account.
@@dyr_glpsn4209 Who’s a bot?
Thanks for the good sitrep Preston
I'm sorry if what I will ask was already answered but when you said that during the Bakmut battle the casualty ratio was 1:4 in favour to Ukraine, were talking about wounded and kia right?
Bc according to some reports Ukraine suffered 10k kia and incapacitated casualties while the Russians suffered 20k kia, essentially 1:2 casualty rate in favour to Ukraine but still only half of what was being reported.
Just want to be sure that's it
Very insightful & great delivery, as usual!
Thanks a lot!
I disagree with Kaufman's assessment that these tactics were effective. "Effective" would be taking Bakhmut in a matter of days or weeks. The fact that they could only gain a block of the city in that time with horrible losses shows how ineffective these tactics were. Ukraine was happy to wear down Russian/Wagner forces in such a lopsided meat-grinder. The main effect was ultimately the Wagner mutiny, which was the beginning of the end for Russia as a state (or at the very least Putin). The affect on Russia's fighting effort was worse: it settled their expectations as low as they can go. Commanders saw that meat-assault tactics could gain a pace of advance that was acceptable to the Kremlin. They also realized that they could send their forces to die and embezzle their pay. So the Russian army oriented itself to supporting these failing tactics because they don't need to care about actually winning.
experts on fighting camel cavalery. after the war we'll see ratio. who was a meat
Would love to try some of the stuff you're smoking. You're even worse than that propagandist "source".
@@gardnert1 people underestimate the amount of ressources Ukraine spent to hold on to bakhmut indefinitely, something even Ukrainians and US officials have said and criticized.
People trying to portray the battle as "haha Russians can't even capture this small city in days or weeks, lol" as if Ukraine didn't sent most of it's veteran brigades to defend the city, they fought valiantly and had significant casualties so minimizing their sacrifice seems a insult to their sacrifice.
People are forgetting that Ukraine did everything they could to prevent it's capture, Zelesnksy literally promised that the city would never fall that it became his motto "bakhmut holds", he even went as far as to say the results of the war are tied to Bakhmut's fate.
It's crazy to hear some guy online saying bs like this while the Ukrainian soldiers on the ground talked about how Wagner was fighting well and etc...
To conclude, the Battle for Bakhmut was brutal as both sides kept throwing in more and more ressources to either defend it or capture it. And of course the winner was the side with the most air support, artillery fire power and more manpower, go figure.
Saying that the Russians were so incompetent that it took they so many months is like slapping the face of the Ukrainian defenders that fought hard and nail to defend it at all cost, instead of saying "yeah it took them too many months bc we fought like hell" nope people online are saying "lol they are so incompetent that it took they so many months", and people like you is only going to down play Ukraine's cause.
Bakhmut was a classical case of a phyrric victory.
Almost as if Russia was once more using “Mine-Tramplers” like they *supposedly* did in ww2.
how about the Americans died in Afghanistan? are they not disposable? they were dude.
Thank you so much, sir, for your great reporting that we're not getting anywhere else. You're great, and we're lucky to have you! Now, don't get a big head. LOL
Convicts absolutely got the best deal. They get a free card by going to Ukraine then come back home free to do absolutely anything they want. The latest laws allow criminals to bypass prison altogether by going to Ukraine. So basically, you can do whatever you want, literally, over and over again.
And if you have money, you can go to Ukraine "on paper" so to speak
They get sent straight to the front with little to no training, they are lied to about money and freedom after deployment, they are sent in to suicide mission after suicide mission, and the penal units can be refused medical treatment, I can hardly say that's a good deal...
That’s if you survive the hundreds of meat waves you have to go through. 99%+ don’t survive these meatwaves. They’re expected to die and not collect the money.
their survival rate is absolutelly horrendous
The reality is you have a better chance of winning the lottery than going to Ukraine 'again and again'
The catch is you have to be rich and if your rich enough to buy your way out of service, there probably committing white collar crimes like embezzling and you'd bribe your way out befoew your conscription paper work was even processed 😂😂 the catch 22 is for murders an rapist, they may have there sentence voided but once there service is up in a penal unit, there sent a conscription notice the same day because there now release as free citizen, that are eligible for conscription. 😂😂
If there's another Earth, this existing one is surely disposable.. Who is worthy to inherit peace??.. Sun is bright, but the souls are dark.. 🔥 🔥🔥
14:26 "real training on the battlefield under fire", this is entirely consistent with what local proxy leaders like Strelkov have said about their conscripts, the hope that the survivors would pick up what they need to know during their time on the line (as discussed by Perun).
In actual war all soldiers are disposable.
This guy will never get what war is. He knows only insurgency. He never had experience with the war. Just imagine if he'd learn next day about what McNamara did during Vietnam war. He would be in shock i bet. 100,000 of US citizens with Low-Iq were thrown to the frontline as absolute disposable meat. Imagine if he learn now what Forrest Gump film was all about. Shoking, i know.
Every army throughout time considers troops as more or less disposable.
Some are more valued than others. But if mission success demands a sacrifice...
Not really.
For example, most western armies, even on a company level attack, considers the death of a single soldier a major event that requires serious reconsideration on the operation.
For example, at the height of the Afghanistan war, the United States was losing roughly below one soldier every day. And the US Army considered it to be a military crisis.
And you could argue that this value of life placed on the soldiers makes western armies weaker, but it also means that due to the western emphasis on conservation of strength, western forces would last longer during a high intensity armed conflict.
@@dangersnail5839 Good point. The US has lost 7,080 troops since the start of the GWOT in 2001. That's a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of deaths for Ukraine and Russia.
@@dangersnail5839 you're confusing fighting a full scale war against modern opponents with fighting goat farmers on Toyotas
@@TheOpethOfMastodon yeah, imagine losing 7k soldiers against guys in flip flops
@@yellowtunes2756 Yes yes, farmers with Toyotas, T-55s, BMP-1s, BTR-60s, MANPADS, and ATGMs.
Soviets fought against the afghans too, and the afghans were even more poorly equipped back then. And lost 4x as many in combat as the US did.
The Russian military has used this sort of tactic before. It isn’t new. They had convict and punishment battalions during WWII. The military personnel that committed some offense against military order were moved to these forces and used to soften German strongpoints. They simply poured bodies at the German invaders. Remember Stalin ordered “not one step back”. Russian troops were forbidden retreat as an option. Even then their military was composed of poorly trained and armed troops strengthened by a core of better equipped and trained soldiers. At Stalingrad Russian forces advanced with soldiers unarmed with instruction to pick up fallen comrades’ weapons and continue the fight.
I wonder what the Surveillance drones have been doing to improve the ability to close gaps due to lack of man-power.
Hey Preston, around 10:00 there's a tiny line at the bottom of the frame where we can see your body... didn't move the overlaying footage down far enough 😂
Great reporting. No one in the western media is talking about.
It’s worth remembering the conversion algebra, western platoons are usually 39-74, in Russia platoons are 22 men, company sized formations about 76 men
It is slightly easier to train
When your president checks his watch and doesn't give a crap about military deaths, I don't think Americans can comment on how expendqble someone elses forces are.
Great content!
Thanks for your report and honest content
The believe in such an "honest" content about "human waves" e.t.c. lead us to situation, when russians controlling the sky, have more artillery, taking UA ground non-stop and outside of short mobilization never had to do so in contrast to Ukraine. Stop lying to yourself, thinking that this somehow will help Ukraine. Time to cut the deal, or we will end up with yet another country in line with Iraq and Afghanistan. It seams that we never learn from our mistakes.
What is enormous they did unthinkable thing. To this day soldiers were grouped to have higher morale and fire effectivness. Especially Russians always needed oficer supervision. And now they send 2-5 team to fight alone. And not for scouts or sof, but for low quality infantry. This is really innovative on a full blown battlefield.
Certainly if internet heads tells you something, it must be truth
This entire video:
"This uninvolved guy said..."
"That uninvolved guy said..."
"Prigozhin said (nevermind him saying it just to get a reaction from russians to hopefully help his rebellion later)..."
Not a single interview, five (5) drone photos. Great reporting
You should look for the wagner pmc leader's interview. the convict recruitments stopped, but if anyone watched the full video of prison vid. he stated rules for joining wagner, History Legend covers the wagner PMC including it's commanders.
Just to clarify, History Legends posted his drunked meltdown when the Kharkiv offensive had massive success. He is not an impartial source.
US feverishly taking notes for the Pacific in 2030.
In war men become disposable
Wagner had losses because they are a merc group and don't have full combined-arms. Also there was a shell shortage. Now that their tactics have been consumed by the regular army losses are far more manageable than Bakmut days.
They had tanks, artillery and a few Su-25s.
The Russian army also accused Wagner of requesting so many shells the rest of the Russian army was suffering because of it.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD the whole army was lacking shells and drones and they didn't have air-soace for constant FAB attacks.
Outstanding HELP 99
Those guys at 5:20 are telegraphing their position and don't even know it.
Because I was halfway through typing a comment when autoplay moved it from my last video onto this one, my screen didn't update properly, so where it says what channel this is, apparently, this video is an upload by The Onion!
Which is quite a change of style for them, this content is a different kind of comedy to their usual stuff!
Sure...Ukraine 5 waves of forced mobilization and 6th on its way...Also theres a proposal to a Verkhovna Rada to allow forced mobilization of 18-25 y.o men...its OBVIOUS that attrition goes in Ukraines favor😂😂😂
So Ukraine doesn't have disposable troops? Ah, yeh I forgot, they have only 31k loses...
Ukraine has to be careful with troop deployment as they don't have the population to do meat waves, as the Russians do and have done for the last 100 years.
@@Kelvinpaul4 Yet, we never seen any evidence of those supposed meat waves. Western propaganda based on the battle of Stalingrad, and not the real stories, but from Hollywood movies.
@@Kelvinpaul4 Loooool I am amazed and really amused sometimes by the people's way of thinking. So why the Ukrainians keep hijacking people from the streets and chuck them on the front? The mobilization in Ukraine has never stopped if you are not aware of this. Wondering why is that? Shortage of people probably? And why is this shortage of people? Not because they lost 31k, is it?
Thanks Preston 👍
Am... Bullshit... Am... Bullshit...
This is all metal gear solid prophecy coming to fruition.
Keep up the good work Preston, love your channel and the fact that you're raising money for the boys on the front. Slava Ukraine
Bakhmut was a bizarre, the russians say they held on to entrench the Ukrainians and build up reserves and the uks say they where trying to waste russian lives, overall the city fell, tens of thousands died and the lines moved back to the cities behind, kramatorsk and serverodonetsk and the patter just repeats it self.
Reminds me of the Dirty Dozen one of my favorite movies. I frankly have no trouble at all with penal units. I guarantee you if WW3 starts you will see US Penal Units again just like WW2.
RU only stopped using convicts so they could 'fit in' in the modern world. RU simply turned the switch back on. This was common practice in WWII and countless other wars started by RU.
Every army at war has troops it considers disposable or acceptable to lose. Sad but true.
Never known that in the British army.
@@zedeyejoe Do you not think officers ordering recon by fire think there are acceptable losses? Also, NATO has not fought an attritional war. Nor a trench war.
@@danielallan8061 In the Russian army you do what you are told, end of. As Stalin said: 'It takes a brave man to be a coward in the Soviet army'. But attacks regardless of losses are not smart.
I don't think NATO has ever fought any fought any sort of war. But the troops of its countries have, many of them. You are right the West does not fight attritional wars, they are hard, brutal and fast. Air power is used to a great extent. Air power is not something Ukraine has not had access to. Hopefully the F16s will change that. They have proved to be highly effective in other wars.
Can I get the source for Wagner using "convicts" as disposable troops?
The source is: "trust me bro, I'm an American".
@@offjofce Unless someone can provide me with a valid source, I'm going to assume that it is simply another "trust me bro, I'm an American" source. It probably comes from the RU penal battalions of WW2.
Great vid!
Thanks a lot!
I quote famous green politician of my country, who actually was eco fascist. He didnt value human life at all. He was asked how he feels about famine deaths in Africa, and why its always the poor countries who take the hardest blows. He said, he dont care who dies and where, as long as they die.
Are you from Equatorial Guinea?
@@Greenlandshark77 Finland
As a veteran these tactics make me sick to my stomach. Russia has not made substantial gains in this war with these tactics and could have had combat effective infantry by now if they actually took the time to train them. Instead they throw lives away because it’s cheaper/easier. I have no words.
0:27-0:40 NO better deal bcuz then they'll just be admitted in the same position. Think about they go home, not back to jail, however, they'll be re-assigned just like everyone else. Now that they're free, they're considered applicable to be treated like the rest. Meaning: they'll be in this war zone until it's over as well too.
This is an attritional war and high casualties are not a "Russian phenomenon". The Brits had 60 000 casualties in the Battle of Verdun and this just on the first day.
What’s so sad in the way they used exactly as ‘disposable’ never takes into account that to these husbands, sons, fathers and brothers, they were NOT disposable! Mothers and wives grieved every bit as much as regular killed troops mothers and wives. Their kids still will grow up fatherless.
Remember Napoleon burn down Moscow the Russians did not give up. The Third Reich had millions of Russian prisoners and made it to the Volga river still the Russians did not give up. How can you hope they will give up this time?
@@savethefrogzSo, in other words - never
They were on the defensive then. And in WWII they had US aid.
😂
Thanks, pretty interesting to hear how they used those inmates in the Wagner group and how the Russian army used the same tactiics but kept the inmates in the army.
I wonder how those Russian penal units compare to penal units during WW2, both Red Army and Wehrmacht.
I’m guessing the fatality rate in the convict meat assaults was 70-90%
From Nigeria 🇳🇬. Simply enjoy your analyses.
It wasn't until the beginning of February that UA started using regular army as the majority of troops in the fight. Until then the majority of troops came from TDF with a mixture of national guards units and border security elements. By February theses forces were attricted to a non functional capacity.
Walther Model noticed that Russian attacks tended to be more successful against a strongpoint defense, and whenever possible he used continuous lines. I can't help but wonder how what the difference in training is, if any, for these troops.
Its pronounced Vagner, 'W' in German makes a 'V' sound.
If you were speaking German sure, but as it’s written and sounded out in English, it’s with the W. You’ll find W is used by the vast majority of folks who have studied the organization since their inception.
@@PrestonStewartbut it’s a name not a word.
@@yghhhhrffvjust toss it in with the slew of heterophonic names across languages. American English in particular does this, and not only with names.
Fascinating, thanks
100% disposable they are!!! In Afghanistan Wagners attacked an american position,so the US govrmt asked the ruzzians if there were ruzzian militars fighting the american position,and they say:"NO".So the US sent some troops and they anihilated them...Ruzzia wasn't able to speak a word about it.
IIRC Progozhin himself admitted in a translated viddy that Wagner lost 60,000 killed and wounded taking Bakhmut out of 78,000 engaged. Those are
prohibitive losses by practically any standard and would hardly seem to be sustainable. Which may explain why an expanded Russian military now often seeks to at least "operationally" encircle strongly held bastions like Vuhledar and Selidove by attacking their flanks. Trouble is, given the prevalence and lethality of drones along much of the front even attacking flanks can be costly as open fields---hitherto considered great environments for armored assaults---are now potential killing grounds from above.
I will never forget the wagner sledgehammer. Nor the beheading. Just disgusting!
Who was the guy they killed?
Sure sure, looks all brutal, but that doesn't matter, who'd they kill?
Half of the video is like „Somebody heard from a friend, that heard from other friend… so we can make the conclusion „ , but the comments are even better!
Early bird gets the worm
Those were some battle-hard groups you mentioned.
Notice this dork has said nothing about the Ukraine collapse in Kursk as well as forced conscription?
You both are hilarious. Tell us o sages of the putler what is really going on in the "special" military operation.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Must be rough sucking on, putin he's so angry these days.
@@horstnietzsche1923 You can always join Cocainsky's army, what are you waiting for? Trolling online seems safer?
@@darenzythey’re too cowardly to do such a thing though. 😂
@@darenzy It's Russia that's begging for foreigners, though.
Wagner actually sounds like they use traditional Russian tactics with brutal enforcement of discipline on highly active hardern infantry, who are able to absorb large amounts of casualties. Seen as purely disposable.
And like the Soviet/ Russian army put on the open field, they can't coordinate large maneuvers, become disjointed while not using the concept of combined arms as any equivalent modern military would cut them to pieces.
And now they have North Koreans
What you refer to as disposable troops is actually called "skirmishers" in military nomenclature. Skirmishers were "invented" inside the envelope of organised, battalion sized infantry in the new organisation of the French, Napoleonic military structure. The skirmishers were used as diversion and in shaping operations to allow line infantry to operate in its traditional firing lines by targeting officers, supply routes,ambushes and generally by being a nuisance for the opposing infantry. The concept died away after the Napoleonic Wars but returned a year or so into the trench wars of WW1 and was expanded and refined into the German storm troops. The concept was further developed during the inter war period and evolved into commando units and the early special forces. At the end of WW2, line infantry essentially ceased to exist and all took on aspects of skirmishing units. Post WW2, in the era of peacekeeping operations and insurgent wars, skirmishing again fell out of favour and was supplanted by manoeuvre warfare, heavily relying on armour as the assault forces. Now, with the re-emergence of trench warfare in Ukraine, it has come full circle and skirmishers are again ruling the battlefield.
They're not skirmishers. They're not diversion. They're assaulters that deploy in waves. Some waves have diggers who carry entrenching tools to build hasty fighting position. They're not expected to use them. It's for the next assault. Some waves are "mules" who carry ammunition and supplies to these fighting positions. So what you get is a creeping advance that covers terrain in the open at the cost of troops. So the lower skilled men go first.
How many of the group at 11:45 are still alive? Crazy to think they could all be gone.
it's not unique, it's how Russia was fighting in second WW
and also foreign volunteers in Z units, yah I watched Russian foreign volunteers videos and it seems these days the majority of recruits in Z units are foreign volunteers and they put in some convicts in there or Russian soliders who pissed off their officers. the death rate is 75 percent by end of the month for these Z units. life expectancy a few days.
You keep painting them as the bad guys , remember when you came to Iraq for no reason ?
I mean Iraq spent like a decade openly breaking the 1991 ceasefire conditions.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD let’s assume what you said is true
What kind of threat did Iraq had against America ?
Their whole military was wiped off by US Air Force
They just came back from a painful 8 years of war with Iran
so basically
Every experienced soldier is either dead or seriously injured
Wtf man use your brain for once
I wonder how effective that drone gun is. I assume it's some kind of jamming device. Also, what are the dots around the 5:00-5:45 marks? It appears to be IR related; reflections off a patch or something? It's a cluster of those dots aimed in one spot, and the speaker steps in and out of them.
Hard for me to grasp this idea of disposable soldiers.. its your people, its people.. wtf
😂😂
The leader of Wanker group
😂😂
That always cracks me up.
WW1 troops were considered disposable. It took 4 years for all countries to start running low on men. With a a birth rate that might happen faster in this war.