The Beatles Time Signature Trick

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    The Beatles seemed to have a habit of playing fast and loose with the meter of their songs. Many of their classic songs don't stay in one consistent time signature throughout and instead will often add or substract one-off beats from the meter, resulting in a quick succession of time signature changes!
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    0:00 Introduction
    0:29 Across The Universe
    1:51 Don’t Let Me Down
    3:46 Strawberry Fields Forever
    5:44 Back In The U.S.S.R.
    6:49 Pianote
    7:45 Martha My Dear
    8:21 Blackbird
    9:01 Two of Us
    9:53 Happiness Is A Warm Gun
    13:21 Here Comes The Sun
    14:24 Good Morning Good Morning
    14:43 Patreon

КОМЕНТАРІ • 623

  • @DavidBennettPiano
    @DavidBennettPiano  8 місяців тому +33

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    • @anshulanilgaur1118
      @anshulanilgaur1118 8 місяців тому

      Hey awesome video, One question I wanted to ask, in Across the universe this line always made me feel a little surprised, its a little different than the rest: "Possessing and caressing me", is there another time signature shift happening here specifically? Thanks!

    • @David-iv6je
      @David-iv6je 7 місяців тому

      @@anshulanilgaur1118 Nope. Still 5. To me the use of 5 is a sign of a lyricist who really knows what he wants to say. A lesser lyricist would chop a beat by losing a word. Lennon keeps the quality meaning and then adds the necessary pause - and it is necessary - to give us a 5 there.

  • @cdprince768
    @cdprince768 8 місяців тому +842

    Since we all know the Beatles weren't writing down time signatures on music sheets, what's fascinating to me is how they would have communicated their unusual changes to other bandmates. From watching "Get Back," it looked like the just played for feel and relentlessly rehearsed until they figured it out and followed each other.

    • @metallicakixtotalass
      @metallicakixtotalass 8 місяців тому +71

      I'm pretty sure that's basically how they did it, purely by feel, maybe sometimes going back and telling one person, "make sure to add a beat here" or "this part is in 3". It's not quite the same but another band which infamously just changes meters whenever they feel like it, Metallica, seems to do the exact same thing with songs like Master of Puppets whose verses are as metrically complex as some of these Beatles songs, but they have played these songs so many times that they just have it down completely by feel.

    • @jeffgoblue
      @jeffgoblue 8 місяців тому +61

      I think they benefitted from *not* being formally trained, as it promoted a lot of their outside-the-box thinking. But as a trained musician, I did find myself a few times during Get Back thinking how much time they would have saved if they could just read and write a lead sheet with the meter changes… particularly during Two of Us.

    • @roguejaina
      @roguejaina 8 місяців тому +49

      Ringo has said in interviews, he just made the guys play it while he counted and then just remembered how many beats for each section and played to fill that. I think they were talking about it but not in fancy terms- more like "What's the beat doing there, do it again" and counting for each other on the tricky bits.

    • @shateq
      @shateq 8 місяців тому

      Interesting, that's what I'm asking myself

    • @chrisjeffrey7570
      @chrisjeffrey7570 8 місяців тому +3

      Smart guys I guess

  • @lorijones9579
    @lorijones9579 8 місяців тому +363

    Even more respect for Ringo, keeping all these changes working.

    • @terryf5131
      @terryf5131 8 місяців тому +13

      Yes .. great point ..go Ringo.🌟

    • @barbaraferron7994
      @barbaraferron7994 8 місяців тому +22

      I hear he was called a human metronome but a metronome can't change time with the singer.

    • @sorenahlback
      @sorenahlback 8 місяців тому +2

      Just what I was thinking!👍

    • @Omertahun
      @Omertahun 8 місяців тому +12

      Ringo could play everything without getting even a little bit excited. He in fact said that Sgt Pepper (Strawberry fields, Penny Lane etc) was so boring to record that he learnt to play chess in the studio

    • @fisherguzzi
      @fisherguzzi 8 місяців тому +1

      @@OmertahunI heard him say he can’t play Strawberry Fields today, parts are very complex. Mick Fleetwood said it after talking to Ringo. Mick couldn’t play it either

  • @ChrisOwenGuitar
    @ChrisOwenGuitar 8 місяців тому +53

    “All you need is love” starts off with the intro in 4/4, then the verse in 7/4 and then fluctuates back and forth throughout. Probably another time signature in there too.

    • @KG-Lime
      @KG-Lime 8 місяців тому +1

      I was going to say that too!

    • @rjblaskiewicz
      @rjblaskiewicz 8 місяців тому +1

      When you get back to the chorus, it goes back into 4/4 and it's...just an airy release of tension. Love it.

  • @fordandk4840
    @fordandk4840 8 місяців тому +74

    The waltz sections in "We Can Work It Out" is another good example

    • @MikeSparksMusic
      @MikeSparksMusic 8 місяців тому +5

      That is the only one I actually knew about before this video.

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 7 місяців тому

      I don't think I noticed how effortlessly the time signatures switched in 'We Can Work It Out' until I heard Stevie Wonder's cover version, which instrumentally stays in 4/4 for the "fussing and fighting" bit. Stevie's version always sounds 'wrong' to my ears as I'm so used to the original.

  • @lewiscrow
    @lewiscrow 8 місяців тому +285

    Never ceases to amaze me how these young lads wrote such sophisticated song structures!

    • @user-ec6vp8kw3q
      @user-ec6vp8kw3q 8 місяців тому +16

      The thing is they didn't think about the time signature. John here just had to fit the words he wanted in there so added a beat. Also there is no such thing as time signatures really, every single song is 4/4 if you don't arbitrarily group beats into bars.

    • @IamtheI
      @IamtheI 8 місяців тому

      because they didnt..... ua-cam.com/video/8htet7N9M2E/v-deo.html&ab_channel=SageofQuay%E2%84%A2Radio

    • @kitko33
      @kitko33 8 місяців тому +4

      They didn't. They wrote songs without making consious decisions to deploy time signatures etc.

    • @Ungoliant_Un
      @Ungoliant_Un 8 місяців тому +14

      The Beatles throwing in an extra quarter note coz they needed some space to catch a breath - peope 50 years later: "sophisticated song structures"

    • @JFFM730
      @JFFM730 8 місяців тому +8

      ​@@Ungoliant_Unlol listen to "good morning good morning" or "happiness is a warm gun" then say that

  • @Alexalexanderalex
    @Alexalexanderalex 8 місяців тому +149

    It’s amazing how they’re able to make such odd time signature changes sound so unnoticeable and flow so well

    • @YearsOfLeadPoisoning
      @YearsOfLeadPoisoning 8 місяців тому +26

      I don't think they were specifically writing any of songs to be in alternating signatures or anything. They're mostly just adding and dropping beats where it suits the melody. I think the video really misplaces where the genius of the songwriting was.

    • @ari1234a
      @ari1234a 8 місяців тому +9

      I once asked a guitar playing friend of mine who could write songs that I only had 2 chords at the time, what would/could be the 3rd chord ?
      His response was "Well where does the melody go".
      So I think for the Beatles it was that if the melody or the overall feel of a song had to be in something other than 4/4, that's where it went.
      I think "Don`t Let Me Down" is a good example of this.

    • @shipsahoy1793
      @shipsahoy1793 8 місяців тому +14

      Beatles songs are typically driven by the melody, not time signatures or chord progressions.
      Rhythm and harmony are essentially by products when melody driven.
      If you use a standard progression to write a tune, you’ve just defined a set of boundary conditions. That’s my take
      on it.

    • @pytski4345
      @pytski4345 8 місяців тому

      Came here to say this. Not to diminish the greatness of the Beatles… just seems to be the case..

  • @tangobasso
    @tangobasso 8 місяців тому +17

    I think Lennon knew what he was doing with the mixed meter. He was already exploring being lyrically and harmonically subversive in his writing, there is no reason to think he he wasn’t being intentionally subversive with rhythm as well. I’d imagine his exploration of avant-garde music with Yoko (Revolution 9!) or having George Martin as something of a mentor would make him familiar and intrigued by the concept of mixed meter. Same with the other Beatles. They were interested in a lot of music outside of dumbed down pop, including George’s exploration of eastern music which is also another portal into atypical rhythms.

  • @NeonRadarMusic
    @NeonRadarMusic 8 місяців тому +88

    It was only when I started learning Beatles songs for cover gigs that I noticed just how complex their songs really were.
    Also I'm just amazed that David has an entire video about The Beatles. He literally never mentions them in other videos.

    • @CaesarTjalbo
      @CaesarTjalbo 8 місяців тому +13

      Somebody should introduce him to Radiohead, he might like them.

    • @jacksmith4460
      @jacksmith4460 7 місяців тому +4

      I remember getting a Beatles chord book when I first started playing guitar, thinking it would be a good starting point as they sounded , generally quite simple.....WRONG. Some of the chords in that book were insane, I struggle to play some these days (although that is more to do with me playing more metal based and in Drop tunings for the last 2 decades...but still, Beatles were underrated from a complexity POV)

    • @jacksmith4460
      @jacksmith4460 7 місяців тому

      @@CaesarTjalbo I suspect he knows who they are lool, he's young , from England and a Pianist , the chances of him not knowing Radiohead are about 1 in 60 million hahaha

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 7 місяців тому +1

      Whoosh! This is one of David's rare videos that doesn't mention Radiohead, his favourite band.

    • @tockita
      @tockita 6 місяців тому

      Lol

  • @JBDazen
    @JBDazen 8 місяців тому +11

    There are demos of Across The Universe without the extra beat, so he did add it knowingly, and for the better. It needs that breath there.

  • @skakirask
    @skakirask 8 місяців тому +66

    I grew up learning just about every Beatles song on the drums, and never thought of these as odd time signatures until I got older and better learned theory. The great thing is these are all songs you can just "feel" your way through and don't have to count!

    • @AndySalinger33
      @AndySalinger33 8 місяців тому +5

      Right! That’s really the whole point! Summed up nicely. And my experience, too…only on guitar. The songs just felt right when playing them. It would be many years until I finally buckled down and learned some theory. Then I gained an even deeper respect for the lads’ music.

    • @Jupiter862
      @Jupiter862 8 місяців тому

      Yeah, I think this is what the Beatles themselves did. They weren’t thinking about time signatures and they weren’t thinking about crafting novel timing…they were using things that they had heard or come up with and liked.
      The odd timing came from their prioritization for the sounds, licks, schticks, and fun ideas all over that of the standard timing.

  • @calebeschutzerlasso5707
    @calebeschutzerlasso5707 8 місяців тому +8

    I am not a conductor, but last week I had to conduct a small orchestra in a Beatles cover band show. Watching this video, I feel like I had no idea about I was doing hahahaha

  • @johnclement5831
    @johnclement5831 8 місяців тому +5

    I was working on Two of Us and it was driving me crazy trying to stay on the beat. Now I know why.

  • @Inquisitor6321
    @Inquisitor6321 8 місяців тому +11

    I think I just learned why Beatles music has been so timeless.
    The intermittent time signature changes knocks the rigid cadence of a song, done in such good taste, pleasantly breaks the monotony of a rigid time signature.
    These guys were really clever!

  • @DanBull-ww7qq
    @DanBull-ww7qq 5 місяців тому +4

    I think it's a great example of a band playing and writing to feel rather than worrying about the technical side of music. They all knew just what felt and sounded good and done it.

  • @danamcc221
    @danamcc221 8 місяців тому +7

    She Said She Said comes to mind: there are several bars of 3/4 in the B section. Also, in All You Need Is Love, the verses are in 7/4. Then there's that moment in Rain where Paul plays quarter note triplets in the refrain. One more: the verses of Lucy in the Sky are in 3, but the choruses are in 4.

    • @iain713
      @iain713 7 місяців тому

      aye but that one sounds forced ?

  • @ESLSongs
    @ESLSongs 8 місяців тому +31

    One of my favourites is (I think) their very first one... 1965's WE CAN WORK IT OUT 😊

    • @MrXyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
      @MrXyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 8 місяців тому +2

      I love "We Can Work it Out" but you can consider the "time change" as a few bars of 4/4 triplets. The exampes that Mr Bennet-Piano highlights are much more than just triplets.

    • @sydcastro70
      @sydcastro70 8 місяців тому +1

      @@MrXyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I think you’re both right! Music is great because it can be subjective. Paul is quoted as saying it was intended to be a waltz type section, implying some semblance of 3/4 imo. "Then it was George Harrison’s idea to put the middle into waltz time, like a German waltz" -Paul McCartney, Many Years From Now

    • @ESLSongs
      @ESLSongs 8 місяців тому +2

      @@MrXyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I agree up to a point... you can *consider* the time change as triplets, but I think the fact that it actually sounds like a waltz, indicating a momentary change in style and even genre, speaks more to a change in the time signature.

  • @gorgolyt
    @gorgolyt 8 місяців тому +73

    Terrific video! I hadn't noticed a few of these little details, especially the polymeter in "Happiness is a Warm Gun". I find the little deviations from the main time signature to be really fascinating, especially when it's not noticeable and enhances the flow of the song. It really shows how the Beatles grew as songwriters by breaking free of convention in favour of their pure musical intuition. Another favourite example of mine is from "We Can Work It Out", when the end of the phrases in the alternate verse ("fussing and fighting my friend") changes to a triple time. I heard that was George's idea. Again, it's very natural, but it really adds a lot to the character of the song.

  • @pam4476
    @pam4476 8 місяців тому +13

    Happiness is a Warm Gun is genuinely one of the most confusing songs to play on the drums once the last part hits with the polymeter. It doesn't help you just know these songs from memory lyrically, so singing it while drumming just outright throws you out of the loop haha

  • @brianpashka9152
    @brianpashka9152 8 місяців тому +2

    Going back to their early days, on the Hard Day’s Night album John changes from 4/4 to 2/4 in the bridges and middle eight of I’ll Be Back (I always thought of them as half bars).

  • @andrewpappas9311
    @andrewpappas9311 8 місяців тому +7

    I feel like George’s decision to have all those changes in the bridge to Here Comes the Sun adds to how great a composition it is, I also know that there’s a brief moment of 2/4 during the pre-chorus of Revolution

  • @johnmunson100
    @johnmunson100 8 місяців тому +3

    Very interesting discussion of Martha My Dear. I've always heard it as 4/4 followed by 5/4, but now that I've counted it as 5/4 followed by 4/4 as demonstrated in the video, that actually makes more sense to me, the way the melody flows in that second bar.
    About Ringo playing 4/4 through the 3/4 section of Happiness is a Warm Gun, it's very similar to She Said She Said, where it switches from 4/4 to 3/4 but he continues to play another bar of 4/4 before starting to simply play every quarter note equally through the rest of the 3/4 section. I seem to recall David explaining this in a previous video as an additional bar of 4/4 before something like a 2/4 bar to then sync up with 3/4. But the 3/4 section actually starts on "No no no" and Ringo just missed it for a bar. But I guess he/they must have liked it, because he played it that way through both renditions of that section.
    All good stuff!

  • @spodoinklehorse
    @spodoinklehorse 8 місяців тому +35

    The counter melody towards the end of Here Comes the Sun is one of the greatest sounds to ever grace an album and i will fight anyone to the death who doesnt agree

    • @Mantorok
      @Mantorok 8 місяців тому

      Is it the one played on the organ?

    • @spodoinklehorse
      @spodoinklehorse 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Mantorok yes

    • @Mantorok
      @Mantorok 8 місяців тому +2

      @@spodoinklehorse Oh yes, it's one of my favorite parts of any song ever made.

    • @itgoestoeleven
      @itgoestoeleven 8 місяців тому

      Death. A good option for you -- and the depth of your observations.

    • @spodoinklehorse
      @spodoinklehorse 8 місяців тому +2

      @@itgoestoeleven wut

  • @johnmc3862
    @johnmc3862 8 місяців тому +3

    This video is an example of why the Beatles were on another level entirely.

  • @crunchyfrog555
    @crunchyfrog555 8 місяців тому +9

    It should be noted also that "back in the USSR"'s stuttered repeating of the title to "Back in the US" is also the play between the similarities of the US and USSR. Georgia and all that being the obvious other clever thing in the lyrics I like.
    I've always thought that was quite a clever little thing.

    • @gorgolyt
      @gorgolyt 8 місяців тому +1

      I just noticed that too. Playing on the Beach Boys parody aspect of the song. Awesome!

    • @zzzaphod8507
      @zzzaphod8507 8 місяців тому +2

      Yes, sounds like he's teasing a reference to the USA, especially as there already was a song called "Back in the USA"

    • @crunchyfrog555
      @crunchyfrog555 8 місяців тому +1

      @@zzzaphod8507 Yup it's why he mentions "Georgia on my mind" and there's other references too I can't recall offhand. I wouldn't be surprised if the root comes from that and why Ray Charles was banned from Georgia for his stance of not performing during the race issues of the sixties. It would give a great reason for Paul to write this song.

  • @misternewoutlook5437
    @misternewoutlook5437 8 місяців тому +13

    Arguably the most famous one is "We Can Work it Out" with the 3/4 change, which was no doubt purposefully than naturally composed as in these examples. "She Said She Said" might be one of those "natural" types. I just got The Who Anthology song book in the post recently and I noticed that "Happy Jack" sneaks in a rather strange 3/2 signature. Can I also say that the 1960s Who wrote some very strange and quirky songs?

  • @ITKLMT
    @ITKLMT 8 місяців тому +12

    You can hear a version of "Across The Universe" that doesn't have the 5/4 measure on Anthology 2. It was recorded during the same sessions as the standard version, which shows how arbitrary John's use of the extra beat was.

  • @iamniveous5626
    @iamniveous5626 8 місяців тому +24

    That recreation of Strawberry Fields is wild. It's like the Beatles as done by Tears For Fears.

    • @sananton2821
      @sananton2821 8 місяців тому +1

      Singing the wrong notes.

    • @testodude
      @testodude 7 місяців тому

      Fantastic comment, greatly appreciated by this 80s kid.

  • @pup64hcp
    @pup64hcp 8 місяців тому +3

    I'd always heard the "record skip" effect on Back in the USSR as 4+4+2, rather than 3+3+4, but that interpretation does make sense as well

  • @pup64hcp
    @pup64hcp 8 місяців тому +103

    Now we just need a video on Radiohead's time signature trick(s)

    • @vegangence7081
      @vegangence7081 8 місяців тому +3

      Please!

    • @arminreuter5151
      @arminreuter5151 8 місяців тому +2

      Yes, that would be interesting ... and long.😂

    • @josrodsedre5142
      @josrodsedre5142 8 місяців тому +6

      Radiohead’s time signature trick: write a song above an obscure beat in a weird time signature, then make the original beat disappear to cover your tracks 😆

    • @junkersish
      @junkersish 8 місяців тому +1

      I will skip that one

    • @apantrazansson4324
      @apantrazansson4324 8 місяців тому +2

      Oh yes please!

  • @nintendianajones64
    @nintendianajones64 8 місяців тому +22

    That polyrhythm in Happiness is a Warm Gun is nuts

    • @finzenberger
      @finzenberger 8 місяців тому +3

      oh it‘s a *great* song

    • @nintendianajones64
      @nintendianajones64 8 місяців тому +1

      @@finzenberger it's also interesting that most of the songs here are from the White Album which is clearly The Beatles greatest work.

    • @johnmc3862
      @johnmc3862 8 місяців тому

      ​@@nintendianajones64It's the best of the Beatles individually.

  • @karaamundson3964
    @karaamundson3964 8 місяців тому +12

    Just breathing points...George often commented on John's almost unconscious fluidity in rhythm.
    Funny, as he's the rhythm guitarist ("the best ever" as other rhythm man Ringo said...he obviously had no issues with any of the tunes). The four bandmates were like four chambers of one amazing musical heart

  • @ric8248
    @ric8248 8 місяців тому +24

    The meter change in Strawberry Fields Forever is merely due to the fact that the phrase "Strawberry Fields Forever" has a ternary structure and John I suppose wanted to emphasise this. You can see that even during the 4/4 section he sings "Strawberry Fields nothing is real" in triplets (wrongly transcribed as shuffle in this video). John always had a sweep spot for triplets, you can find them everywhere in his songs.

    • @Oleg_K.
      @Oleg_K. 8 місяців тому +7

      Totally agree. I don't think David analysis is right. Or at least not as helpful as how Lennon, presumably, thought about it.

    • @ric8248
      @ric8248 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Oleg_K. exactly, especially Lennon l believe was thinking more freely about his phrases

    • @AkyovNorthWest
      @AkyovNorthWest 8 місяців тому

      What exactly do you mean by he had a sweet spot for “triplets”? And could you give some more examples?

    • @ric8248
      @ric8248 8 місяців тому +3

      @@AkyovNorthWest Sure.. check the choruses of Ask Me Why, Don't Let Me Down, There's A Place, Beautiful Boy.. and how he ends his phrases in She Said She Said, Every Little Thing and so many others

    • @daveandrew589
      @daveandrew589 8 місяців тому +3

      Agree. It's much more like a 2/4 bar in triplets, which matches the vocal cadence. In a sense, John, and to a lesser degree the others, were melodic rappers. The music fits the vocal rather than the vocal being crammed into the music. This is also why Ringo was the perfect drummer for the Beatles, he played what the song needed, rather than just keeping tempo or showing off flashy fills.

  • @EddieReischl
    @EddieReischl 8 місяців тому +2

    Can't think of any others that weren't listed in the comments as far as time signature changes inside the song. An early example of compound meter of theirs is "This Boy", which is in 12/8 time, so they (John mostly) had a penchant for writing waltz time type songs early on in their career.

  • @danimountjoy
    @danimountjoy 8 місяців тому +125

    wow there's always something new to hear from the Beatles even after 50+ years! Great vid, love it

    • @SamBrockmann
      @SamBrockmann 8 місяців тому

      More like, from the bands that the Beatles stole from... But ya know.

    • @BeatlesCentricUniverse
      @BeatlesCentricUniverse 8 місяців тому +6

      ​@@SamBrockmannNonsense.

    • @SamBrockmann
      @SamBrockmann 8 місяців тому +1

      @@BeatlesCentricUniverse , nah, truth.

    • @gasparucciox9706
      @gasparucciox9706 8 місяців тому +1

      wich bands?

    • @SamBrockmann
      @SamBrockmann 8 місяців тому +1

      @@gasparucciox9706 , Cliff Richard and The Shadows, Bob Dylan, Chuck Berry (hell, a few of the Beatles song intros were ripped right from ol' Chuck), Buddy Holly and The Crickets, The Beach Boys, The Everly Brothers, The Byrds,
      Ravi Shankar, Elvis, Fats Domino, Little Richard, The Supremes, Bo Diddley, King Curtis. The list goes on.

  • @thomascraymer8712
    @thomascraymer8712 8 місяців тому +4

    A few other worthy mentions:
    1) "Within You Without You" seems to be filled with these, the melody and rhythm seem to fluctuate between 4/4 and 5/4 throughout
    2) The 3/4 part during the bridge in "We Can Work It Out". Something similar also appears later in George's "Not Guilty".
    3) The chorus of "What's The New Mary Jane", John adds in a couple of beats the second time he sings "What a shame Mary Jane, what a shame Mary Jane had a pain at the party"
    4) Ok it was never recorded as a Beatles song, but George Harrison's "Run Of The Mill" switches between 3/4 and 4/4 throughout, and I'll include it here as it was likely written while he was still in the Beatles

  • @zzzaphod8507
    @zzzaphod8507 8 місяців тому +22

    Interesting topic!
    To me, the "Mother Superior" part sounds like a bar of 6/8 followed by x/4.
    The Here Comes the Sun example sounds like a bar of 6/8 followed by a bar of 5/8, a minor difference to what you put.
    Within You Without You has the middle (instrumental) section in 5/4 or 5/8.

  • @sammyeisenhower1986
    @sammyeisenhower1986 8 місяців тому +5

    John was definitely aware of the extra beat in "Don't Let Me Down" because they all come in at the right time, so he had to have been able to tell his band mates about the count.

    • @TheMBE2003
      @TheMBE2003 8 місяців тому

      Not necessarily, they might've just based coming back in on the melody/lyrics. It has a very natural flow and clearly signals when the band is meant to come back in

    • @seldonsinq
      @seldonsinq 8 місяців тому

      Also on the early rehearsals on the Nagra tapes they are struggling because not everyone has figured the extra beat

  • @banba317
    @banba317 8 місяців тому +5

    I think you hit on the main reason for these occurrences when talking about Here Comes The Sun; you said, "... Because this melody is effectively built into this meter..." These three writers, John, Paul and George were not highly technically trained. They were self taught and they wrote and played by ear. None of them ever scored a sheet of music. They would present rough compositions built on melodies and lyrics and the rhythm in their hands. Ringo would then shape the beat around that framework. Fascinating subject!

    • @dreammachine2013
      @dreammachine2013 8 місяців тому

      Perfect analysis🎉

    • @peterfitton4529
      @peterfitton4529 9 днів тому

      Reading/writing music is only a small part of musical literacy. You can have a good working grasp of time signatures and things like chords/scales/harmony without being able to read music.
      Non-trained musicians learn how music is constructed primarily by learning to play other peoples' songs, which is a masterclass in the subject. The rest they pick up through experience. Irving Berlin couldn't read/write music either, neither can the internationally celebrated composer Hans Zimmer (I'm pretty sure he nonetheless has a pretty good grasp on the technicalities of what he's doing), neither can 99% of rock and pop musicians. It's very rarely much of an issue.

  • @sananton2821
    @sananton2821 8 місяців тому +4

    I'm extremely confident that John knew when a measure's in 5/4...he'd been a musician his whole life, playing in rock and skiffle bands on rhythm guitar...

    • @peterfitton4529
      @peterfitton4529 9 днів тому

      Exactly! They were all experienced musicians who knew what they were doing. They learned the nuts and bolts of music mainly from working out how to play other people's songs, which is how most non-trained musicians learn. That + experience. All this "they couldn't read music and so didn't know what they were doing" garbage that you see and hear all the time from people really p*sses me off.

  • @SmilingIbis
    @SmilingIbis 8 місяців тому +5

    I long thought there was a certain experimental quality to a lot of their work, especially in the 2nd half of the career when they were mainly a studio band issuing records, instead of a touring band that promoted records.

  • @jamesdaniels487
    @jamesdaniels487 8 місяців тому +7

    I know John mentioned that when writing We Can Work It Out, George suggested putting the "for fussing and fighting my friend" line into 3/4 time

    • @MrXyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
      @MrXyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 8 місяців тому +1

      But they are triplets in 4/4 time as the length of the bar doesn't change.

  • @bryanhenderson8807
    @bryanhenderson8807 8 місяців тому +4

    Thanks for showing us the odd meter Beatle songs. Both Paul and John have both said in interviews that they purposefully left out beats in some of their songs. Also, they were probably familiar with Irish fiddle tunes, which have some songs in 9/8. George Harrison's song, Within You Without you is clearly in either 5/4 or 10/8, and you can hear him counting the beats at one point in the recording. He did learn about Indian classical music from Ravi Shankar, who would have explained how to count the odd meters in Indian miusic.

  • @timedesiigns2776
    @timedesiigns2776 8 місяців тому +3

    Being for the benefit of Mr Kite! Has always been one of my favorite time signature changes. So blatantly different yet still perfect

  • @13donstalos
    @13donstalos 8 місяців тому +18

    It just goes to show that the fact that they didn't write with music theory in mind made their music even more interesting.

    • @pietart3596
      @pietart3596 8 місяців тому

      ironically their music can't be explained without music theory

  • @user-zo5me3ys3c
    @user-zo5me3ys3c 8 місяців тому +3

    Even more respect for Ringo, keeping all these changes working.. Now we just need a video on Radiohead's time signature trick(s).

  • @the20thDoctor
    @the20thDoctor 8 місяців тому +3

    So THAT'S why the end bit of Happiness is a Warm Gun is so satisfying! I always loved that bit and now I know why. Great song!

  • @LaurierLachance
    @LaurierLachance 8 місяців тому +3

    Thumbnail is 🔥

  • @annoschreier1860
    @annoschreier1860 8 місяців тому +4

    She Said She Said is also pretty wild - I think you've talked about it before. And the intro to Drive My Car has one eighth note too many at the end.

  • @bakerzermatt
    @bakerzermatt 8 місяців тому +3

    That mess of measures at the end of strawberry fields is one of my favourite bits!

  • @Yeehaw123
    @Yeehaw123 8 місяців тому +7

    More Beatles ⭐️👄⭐️

    • @MrXyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
      @MrXyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 8 місяців тому +1

      Mr Bennet Piano Videos: "in my life I've loved them all"

  • @spudinho1
    @spudinho1 8 місяців тому +5

    I've been listening to these guys for half a century or more and I had no idea how creative their rhythms are. I guess that rhythm tends to slip under the radar - obscured by harmonies, intriguing lyrics and the rest. Many thanks for this!

    • @johnmunson100
      @johnmunson100 8 місяців тому +1

      Depends on what each person gravitates to / focuses on. For example, I pay a ton of attention to rhythms, harmonies, and bass lines, but almost none to lyrics. In probably the majority of songs I know, I have no idea what the lyrics are saying, even if I can sing them word for word -- to me they're just musical sounds, not words! Different strokes for different folks, as the saying goes. 😊

    • @markmorris8532
      @markmorris8532 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@johnmunson100
      I absolutely agree with you on lyrics.
      Sometimes, talking with friends about songs, they are SO taken with the lyrics, and judge a song so much on the lyrics.
      It's like we're speaking different languages.

  • @toniusheidemann5771
    @toniusheidemann5771 3 місяці тому +1

    The coolest use of changing time signatures happens in „Being for the benefit of Mr Kite“, where the signature moves from 4/4 to 6/8 when it says „and of course Henry the horse dances the waltz“. I always have to smile when I listen to that part.

  • @aphealy
    @aphealy 8 місяців тому +1

    I enjoy counting the middle section of Here Comes the Sun as 4/4 7/8 11/9. 7/8 like 1-2 1-2 1-2-3, and 11/9 like 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2. Seems to work well. Tricky getting the hand claps right!

  • @tallmn1957
    @tallmn1957 8 місяців тому +14

    George Martin has talked about Lennon's change in time signatures even in The Beatles early days. John had a unique feel for music that most others don't. I've always felt that John taught Paul a thing or two about timing. They might even be clues to what songs John gave a hand to Paul with.

    • @GT380man
      @GT380man 8 місяців тому

      George Martin didn’t even want to take them on as they had no songwriting ability and didn’t play well. He was ordered by EMI seniors to do so.

    • @tallmn1957
      @tallmn1957 8 місяців тому +1

      @@GT380man That is not true. I was lucky enough in the 90s to see George Martin speak live and his story is much different than that. He would have no idea if they could or could not write good material.

    • @IamtheI
      @IamtheI 8 місяців тому

      @tallmn1957 perhaps watch sage of quay video on did the Beatles write their own music.... biggest frauds ever

    • @markmorris8532
      @markmorris8532 7 місяців тому

      ​@@tallmn1957
      Well, I have read many times over the years, that GM didn't want to deal with the Beatles at first.

    • @tallmn1957
      @tallmn1957 7 місяців тому +1

      @markmorris8532 I saw Martin talk live and even then (as he has said many times) he thought they were rough and didn't like the music they were making but he felt something was there that he could work with, so I don't know where you heard otherwise.

  • @MusicalRadiation
    @MusicalRadiation 8 місяців тому +1

    Hello Goodbye has a bar of 2/4 right at the start of every chorus in the 'you say goodbye, and I say hello' part. It feels so natural that you don't even notice it unless you count along with the beat!

  • @Martykun36
    @Martykun36 8 місяців тому +2

    I always heard the Back in the USSR chorus as a polyrhythm. The melody sings in threes but the overall beat is still in fours, plus a 2/4 bar at the end.

  • @dawidmamczur
    @dawidmamczur 8 місяців тому +1

    You could make a whole video about George switching time signatures in his solo work, he did that a lot.

  • @mrblue99999
    @mrblue99999 8 місяців тому +2

    Fantastic! And I would say Ringo staying in 4/4 time in Happiness is a Warm Gun was planned because not long after while working on Dig A Pony-as seen in Get Back-John suggests to Ringo that he stay in 6/8 while the rest of the band add (or drop) a measure. I can’t tell exactly how to count it, but it’s the same going out of sync process. Of course it may not have been planned the first time and John just liked it!

  • @kelvinemerich221
    @kelvinemerich221 8 місяців тому +2

    I love this time signature trick. BTW, in 'She Said' they use the trick when they change to the 'When I was a boy....' section.
    When I heard that after knowing this Channel, I remembered the First vídeo I watched, about word painting.
    Changing time signature to sing about other time, the past. I think this trick is not merely aesthetic, but very funcional to stablish the storytelling

  • @MrXyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    @MrXyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 8 місяців тому +3

    I write arrangements for traditional folk songs, and many traditional songs use a change in meter just to get the words to fit. The song has text that the songwriter wanted to fit in anfdthe number of beats is made to fit the text. As the video goes through these examples, it seems that te John songs are exactly like this. Mr Bennet Piano even said for Across the universe it is "to give himself a chance to cathch his breath". The Paul songs are similar but the change in time signature is just as often to get the music to fit in. In all cases it seems the push for 'I want it to fit like this' overides the need to force the music or vocals into the standard 4/4 or 3/4 time of the song. What is really interesting is that during the touring years, they very rarely had changes in time signatures, it is only in the studio years, that they developed the desire to make the beat fit the music rather than the music fit the beat.

  • @beatxt
    @beatxt 8 місяців тому +1

    GH's solo song "So Sad" has a 'chorus' with choppy time changes that make it a challenge to try and strum along with.

  • @musicmann1967
    @musicmann1967 8 місяців тому +6

    I only was aware of a couple of these like "Happiness..." So wild!!! I'm pretty sure it was all just coming naturally as the melody lines dictated the meter, but still it knocks me out how different they were operating compared to most of their peers. Fascinating stuff, thanks!

  • @tallmn1957
    @tallmn1957 8 місяців тому +3

    Norwegian Wood, like I Me Mine, is a waltz done in 3/4 time. This is one of the reasons I like those two song so much.

    • @thomascraymer8712
      @thomascraymer8712 8 місяців тому +1

      And "I Me Mine" changes to a swinging 4/4 for the chorus too

    • @tallmn1957
      @tallmn1957 8 місяців тому +1

      @@thomascraymer8712 That's right! I forgot about that. What a drag it is getting old.

  • @Leafsdude_
    @Leafsdude_ 8 місяців тому +3

    I wonder, since it's in the studio era where the Beatles were doing new things (for the time), if John simply had Ringo put his 4/4 drum part down first on HIAWG intentionally and then played his 3/4 part overtop of it. A lot of Beatles songs were put together in different ways, so it's definitely feasible that Ringo's part was recorded after John's and therefore it was an error, but I don't doubt that John could have done it completely intentionally.
    As for other songs, perhaps the most iconic time signature changes is in We Can Work it Out, switching from Paul's part to John's part.

  • @seldonsinq
    @seldonsinq 8 місяців тому +2

    Within You Without You has interesting timing. I’m always missing when the vocals come back in after the instrumental break

  • @Feed_Your_Head
    @Feed_Your_Head 8 місяців тому +7

    Lennon was the most inventive with his constant time signature changes. You don't really even realize it until you see sheet music that highlights all the changes, which he did purely intuitively. Such a magnificent, creative, artistic mind.

    • @itgoestoeleven
      @itgoestoeleven 8 місяців тому +2

      Nah. With John, it was just what felt right. Move along.

    • @Feed_Your_Head
      @Feed_Your_Head 8 місяців тому +3

      @@itgoestoeleven "which he did purely intuitively." You mean, Yeah.

  • @KarstenJohansson
    @KarstenJohansson 8 місяців тому +2

    The "Across The Universe' example is so close to being a fermata or even a caesura in classical notation, I've only thought of it that way. But the rhythm underneath strums and the phaser (wah-ish) rate clearly indicate an additional beat, so it really is an unmistakable 5/4.

  • @florianscheding5371
    @florianscheding5371 8 місяців тому +3

    Great video! I think it's very likely that the Beatles understood time signature extremely well and planned these changes for at least some of their songs. Mal Evans, the Beatles' PA and Road Manager, transcribed the lyrics for Happiness is a Warm Gun for the recording sessions and added in the changing time signatures. There are also a few interviews of RIngo describing how George explained the rhythm of Here Comes the Sun to him.

    • @itgoestoeleven
      @itgoestoeleven 8 місяців тому

      I think it's likely that the Beatles were - first, last and always - pop musicians weaned on blues and early rock! They didn't give a shite about time signatures! They did what felt good! I repeat: you people are mental!

  • @wpfairbanks
    @wpfairbanks 8 місяців тому

    Just absolutely love your videos!

  • @thenowereman6730
    @thenowereman6730 8 місяців тому +6

    Great video as usual ! In Yer Blues the first half of the song is in a strong 6/8 blues beat whereas in the other half there’s this 4/4 rock rythm for one of the roughest guitar solo form the Beatles !

  • @Darlene1969
    @Darlene1969 8 місяців тому

    Wow, amazing! thanks for that David

  • @kekleon-Gamer
    @kekleon-Gamer 8 місяців тому +6

    Never been this early! Has to be good considering it's The Beatles!

  • @radie100
    @radie100 2 місяці тому +3

    Honoroble mention is All you need is Love

  • @picksalot1
    @picksalot1 8 місяців тому +3

    Wonderful analysis of an unusual feature of the Beatles' music that helps make it so memorable. The meter changes sound perfectly natural, and serve to maintain the integrity of the melodies. Thanks

  • @althealligator1467
    @althealligator1467 8 місяців тому +1

    I've always loved the little pieces you put at the end of your videos

  • @rsplines12
    @rsplines12 8 місяців тому +2

    Absolute fun David! Wishing a quick journey to 1M.

  • @stco2426
    @stco2426 8 місяців тому

    Thanks, David. Excellent work.

  • @stephenoleary5627
    @stephenoleary5627 8 місяців тому +2

    This is simply a superb video by someone with knowledge, passion and enthusiasm for great music. Keep up the great work 👍

  • @thegothaunt
    @thegothaunt 8 місяців тому +1

    Loved this one! Fascinating and fun conducting practice 😂

  • @composer7325
    @composer7325 8 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video, David.

  • @shipsahoy1793
    @shipsahoy1793 8 місяців тому +2

    A lot of times, the addition or omission of a beat in a particular bar is a device that serves to push the melody forward or to hold it back. No law that says it has to be accelerando or ritardando, or even rubato.
    In fact, there are instances in printed music where I find it convenient to add a beat at the breath mark comma. It’s not just a breath mark in every instance.

  • @stoatystoat174
    @stoatystoat174 8 місяців тому +2

    Saw an interview with Anna Meredith (please listen to Nauticus) and she was saying (paraphrasing) that she writes tunes out on paper so she doesn't get caught in the framework of a DAW (computer based studio)
    Think it is very easy to get stuck in a time signiture if it is tricky to get your DAW to jump around different time signatures on different bars

  • @miguelsuarez8010
    @miguelsuarez8010 8 місяців тому +1

    Changing time signatures is like conversation: in conversation we use sentences with many words followed by a shorter sentence.

  • @andreasbonkowski
    @andreasbonkowski 8 місяців тому

    great video! and furthermore, i really love the piano outro to this video

  • @lucianoperrotat5170
    @lucianoperrotat5170 8 місяців тому

    Great video!! As Always!!

  • @tommyhaynes9157
    @tommyhaynes9157 8 місяців тому +1

    I've heard they never did one recording of Happiness in a Warm Gun they were happy with . So they took the best takes from different recordings and put them together for the album cut

  • @Emmanuel_Franquemagne
    @Emmanuel_Franquemagne 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks a lot for this video, very fun and interesting. Funnily enough, I had thought about Here comes the Sun when transcripting it, and had chosen a pattern "11/8-4/4-7/8", which results in the same thing but conceding a greater importance to phrase parts (riff-rest-kickstart again), according to me.
    So great work, love each video of this channel! 🙂

  • @Jtmcad14
    @Jtmcad14 8 місяців тому +2

    The intro to Savoy Truffle has interesting time changes. After the lead-in drum fill, it sounds like there is a bar of 4/4, followed by a bar of 7/8, then a bar of 6/8, where they sing "creme tangerine".

  • @marcotambasco2818
    @marcotambasco2818 8 місяців тому +1

    I want to thank you I learn so much from you. This is gonna improve my songwriting.

  • @tljmusic
    @tljmusic 8 місяців тому +5

    Haha nice! I just finished watching your Lydian mode video and it auto-loads this brand new one. Thanks David! Your channel is so helpful.

  • @pietart3596
    @pietart3596 8 місяців тому

    these little rhythm tricks are amazing! many musicians took inspiration, especially songs using the "record skip" 3/4 trick

  • @ilikejazz2357
    @ilikejazz2357 8 місяців тому +3

    My favorite beatles song with time signature changes is the continuing story of bungalow bill. There's an occasional bar of 2/4 to cap off each chorus.

  • @jackbuff_I
    @jackbuff_I 8 місяців тому +3

    I love Don't Let Me Down and I think it works even better with it as 4/4

  • @darktimesatrockymountainhi4046
    @darktimesatrockymountainhi4046 8 місяців тому +1

    A very interesting video. Thank you! I just had to consult the book of scores, and I see that the section in Happiness is a Warm Gun, with Ringo staying in 4/4 during a 3/4 section, is “written” in 12/8 time, with the section repeated & some measures repeated. Though written in 12/8, the drum part exactly follows the 4/4 pattern. Very interesting!! You know this was written out afterward, from listening to the recording. The guys surely didn’t compose this before playing it - they learned it from playing it, and this seems a sensible way to arrange it.

  • @angelluisromo
    @angelluisromo 2 місяці тому

    Perfect explanation. I consider "All you need is love" as one of my favorite rythm change Beatles song.

  • @brusselssprouts560
    @brusselssprouts560 8 місяців тому +4

    The more drill into how they constructed their songs, the more you realise what geniuses they were.

  • @mustuploadtoo7543
    @mustuploadtoo7543 8 місяців тому +4

    my day gets sadder when i see a david bennett piano video and it is not part of the orchestral series 🤧

    • @DavidBennettPiano
      @DavidBennettPiano  8 місяців тому +1

      Sorry for the delay! Apple Music are the sponsors of that series and have currently asked me to pause the series whilst they sort our budget issues. Sorry for the delay!

    • @veikkajoensuu
      @veikkajoensuu 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@@DavidBennettPianoat least we got a Beatles video. You can never go wrong with that.

    • @peterfitton4529
      @peterfitton4529 9 днів тому

      ​@@DavidBennettPianoI love your videos, but why do you allow various trolls in the comment section to get away with posting right wing conspiraloon nonsense and disinformation?
      There are people in the comments to this video making nonsense claims about The Beatles not writing their own songs, even stating that "proof" of this exists via some crackpot UA-cam video or other, that they were a communist plot to undermine American family values (lol), that George Martin really wrote the songs etc etc.
      Can't you delete that nonsense? Free speech is one thing but spreading that sort of rubbish is dangerous. You have to think of young people who might read those claims and, not knowing any better, believe them. The world is in enough trouble due to "alternative facts" these days as it is.

  • @pedrohorta6266
    @pedrohorta6266 8 місяців тому +2

    Love it. I always felt George perceived that passage in Here Comes The Sun as a clever descending pattern starting on the A whole note as 8/8, 7/8, 6/8, 5/8, repeat.

  • @tannakaobi1
    @tannakaobi1 8 місяців тому +23

    They obviously knew what they were doing. I don't buy into this narrative that The Beatles didn't understand music. Paul went on to compose classical scores, John talked about George being part of the elite music party scene in London and although music theory may have been a weak point to Lennon, he could certainly count. They may not have known what things were called but they knew the important part, like the practical use. If you read enough they talk about music theory in their own way. Such as on Anthology when George is talking about the time signatures in here comes the sun and how they would explain it to Ringo.

    • @lynnturman8157
      @lynnturman8157 8 місяців тому +4

      Agreed. All music theory & music notation is is just a visual & antiquated way to communicate in an aural medium. If they would have had the technology to record music in Bach or Beethoven's day, there would have been no need for music notation. The Beatles may not have been schooled in theory or reading music but they were very schooled/sophisticated in terms of ear training, which is much more important because music is an aural medium.

    • @reginaldperiwinkle
      @reginaldperiwinkle 8 місяців тому +2

      This is what I think too. While I enjoy many of the videos on this channel, I find that there is too often a superior and patronizing attitude when discussing the Beatles' musical knowledge. There is a tendency to portray them as bumblers who chanced upon good ideas or to imply that anything sophisticated must have been suggested by George Martin. It's more than a bit exhausting.

    • @transtaganas
      @transtaganas 8 місяців тому +1

      As far as I know, the time changes in Happiness is a warm gun were mostly work of Georges, who was by the time experimenting on non-western music, ie he was actively pursuing other tempos/harmonies.

    • @dreammachine2013
      @dreammachine2013 8 місяців тому

      ​@@reginaldperiwinkle great Point!