Additional info and FAQ: Part1:ua-cam.com/video/_vjPvRLYNzg/v-deo.html Feel free to comment any questions you may have and I will get back as fast as I can. What is in offhand?: I once again forgot to talk about the offhand shield and now wand. Here you just want a shield with as much evasion rating as possible that you can fit into your current stat budget. The wand is just +4 to chaos spells and some cast speed for a little extra curse effect and ease of use on the curse + totem. Advice if you have lower/no attack speed on your quiver yet: Swap a support gem out or to your boots, comorbidity chaos mastery or chaos infusion are good options, and slot in martial tempo for more feel good untill you can get a higher attack speed roll. LEVELING?!?: I was already mapping with gas arrow pre-pconc buff so I can't comment on leveling with it. I leveled with Gas arrow, Plaugefinger gloves, widowhail, big flat damage quiver +/- inc damage with bow skills and flew through the campaign. If you want to go pconc immediately consider a glowswarm unique ring for extra charge sustain early along with the gain charges flask suffix and arcane alchemy annoint.
@@Piper0185 afaik, what you want to maximize is the +2 all Projectile skill from the quiver. Using widowhail can gives you up to 7 level instead of 2 (assuming you're at 250% multiplier) If you use other bow and quiver, the most level you can get is +4 instead of 7. And that's only talking about that single suffix line, there is bonus when using bow skill, crit chance crit damage, flat stats etc. Your quiver multiply it by 3.5
@@Piper0185 Yes it is completely nuts right now. Also since pconc deals unarmed damage the base damage of your weapon is not factored into its damage calculation. Therefore you have a very small selection of weapons that you could use to scale pconc itself via your weapon slot.
loving this build so far, level 90 after a day or so. one thing i highly recommend trying out is martial tempo while mapping, my quiver only has 10% as so maybe just me but it felt incredibly slow which is a shame because the rest of the build is so fast/fluid - i swap comorbidity to boots and tempo in place of it and it's butter smooth, the less poison duration on the boots is hardly a downside because the smoke cloud persists. swap back for big bosses, map bosses not necessary as the damage is so big. thanks a bunch brother my other tip is if you're swapping out boots for bosses, place the gems in your bow shot first so they dont spill into inventory :)
Something to make note of when still gearing - The node Warding Potions gives 18% less Flask charges used from Mana Flasks and Pconc counts for this, reducing the number of charges used from 3 to 2 (I assume its because the game truncates the charges used.) Still need to have 3 charges available to cast, but only 2 gets subtracted.
Also to add to this there is a unique ring u can put on level 1 called glowswarm which gives 0.25 mana flask charges per second. Very bad in endgame but can help u to sustain during the campaign if you like.
Really sorry about not having one up yet. I'm trying to find the time to learn them ( have never used either before, only POB ). I will try to get one up if I can.
Just did some paper napkin math and with my current setup and tree it is about 30% more damage with no conditions. Edit: Unless tooltip or the gem is bugged in some way, what exactly were people saying?
handshake, thanks for the response. as a follow up, it's exactly as you describe -i went with the gloves to expand scaling along with the same unique bow for much the same reason. drops have been hard to come by if not nonexistent, currency is low, etc. i saw the bow and gloves as maybe some budget voltaxic rift with the idea to get bow damage, +2, lightning damage, and a third prefix of any element to keep the raw damage up (in addition to looking for additional elemental affixes on rings for example. i thought maybe prioritizing cold over fire for a second element given the penetration nodes around ranger/monk start, but i don't even know if it's applicable since, the skill isn't actually hitting. ideally i imagine you'd want a great phys bow for cloud but.. currency. that said with all the scaling options you describe I would hope I could reach similar numbers given investment/scaling but the sad part is the concoction alone is far greater damage than my cloud. I moved points from overwhelming toxicity just to see what the flask is about, moved gems over and the skill is just... better. I assume this is because my elemental damage isn't high enough to compete with the concoctions base chaos damage? with that said, anything you could add on this side bar? aside from just needing better gear to scale the ability I'm having a hell of a time running in circles thinking of what to prioritize with regard to scaling. the build philosophy so to speak was expand scaling options (and simplify), play high evasion, pick up as much ES as I can and grab the adjacent "damage" nodes. anyways, novel out of the way. I replied to you with a picture of the tree with my notes/thoughts if you have an opportunity to check. thanks again for your time mate, i'll keep and eye on that channel.
It is as you have said. Pconc with the buffed numbers simply crushes everything else for poison now. I and many others who I've spoken to, both here and on reddit, are in agreeance so far on this and I've yet to have anyone bring up a conflicting point to that. As for your tree I did have a look. But honestly without PoB the best way to compare your numbers is just check your gas arrows dps sheet in game. Respec nodes around and check if its gone up or down. It's impossible for me to tell at a glance this early in how your magnitude/increase/ect damage nodes would need to be balanced for maximum dps.
I haven't been looking at too many of other people's builds, so I'm not certain when they are and are not taking it. But for us it would first off give us 70% less movement speed ( because evasion rating = to movespeed in our setup ). And 2 be quite bad on evasion/es hybrids IMHO. Ghost dance with 40k evasion instantly regenerates 2k es per stack. So unless you stand in > 5 slams/ground explosions simultaneously that are each dealing > 2k post-mitigation damage you will take little to 0 damage.
I was already mapping with gas arrow before the buff to pconc so I can't speak on leveling with it. I leveled with gas arrow + plaugefinger gloves + widowhail + a quiver with alot of flat damage/ inc damage with bow skills upgrading it every 10-15 levels and was crushing the campaign.
It's very good to level as. Can swap as soon as you finish your Act 2 trial. I did gas arrow with flame wall before that. If you can't get Widowhail while leveling, any bow with proj gem levels works.
I had 5 Divine Budget , and made it work. im farming T15 delirium breach maps already . Just find a 100-110% evasion chest and buy it for cheaper. Upgrade step by step. rest of the gear focus on capping resistances etc. ( got 80% rarity ) , only 3/6 jewels . Its doable .
As of right now, our damage is already so massively overkill for all the content in the game that I chose to forgo aiming for any additional damage and go for as much movement speed as I could snag. I haved seen those and they arn't far off, If the " damage with bow skills " line gets removed then that could be somewhere to look for a bit more inc. damage. Assuming that they don't also fix conc. effect ( because it doesn't work at all currently and is bugged ) because that would easily recoup the damage loss.
Do you have any ideas on how to improve clearspeed? the bossing damage is already very very good, so much so that I'd be willing to trade half my bossing DPS for a little more mobbing speed. I guess I'm just too used to playing with flicker/warp so everything else feels slow haha
The playstyle you should go for is to throw 1 pconc and then just keep running. Everything else that didn't go down will either already be in, or follow you into, the clouds from the boots. Not like anything but rares drop loot anyways so that was how I decided to play. If thats still not enough you can either reach for the +30 spirit* from the soul cores in 2 rune sockets and use plauge bearer. If you do go that route u will want to find some extra levels for it as IMHO at level 19 its very weak but it gets exponentially stronger with each level u have on it.
Was already running a similar build but only with 12k dps on my PConc. Just wondering what the breakdown of your DPS is, especially the poison damage stat! Seen a lot of improvements I can already make to my build, thank you!
As people asked before, PLZ PLZ make a written guide ! Also if u could add up note in it about how you level in it , when you swap to poison. thx thx, awesome video
Hi! im confused on how you got the lvl 36 with the passive skill tree change because i have the exact same passive skill tree with the jewels needed and only got to lvl 34 (35 with the chaos mastery support gem but im not level 90 yet)
Do you plan on doing a level guide? Since we cant swap ascendency we cant really just make this build on the spot. We have to get there somehow. I was thinking about playing a PoE1-like build since it was my first one.
Once again another thing I forgot to talk about. Maybe I will just make a single leveling video as a general overview for every class. I was already mapping with gas arrow before the buff to pconc so I can't speak on leveling with it. I leveled with gas arrow + plaugefinger gloves + widowhail + a quiver with alot of flat damage/ inc damage with bow skills upgrading it every 10-15 levels and was crushing the campaign.
I didn't know that! Surely they are insanely expensive though right? I didn't look at them because they are impossible to search for until trade site has been updated to support their mods, at the time of writing at least.
I just kept the same widowhail I had before. But in this endgame setup you could go for the +30 spirit ones which are insanely expensive. But you could add an additional 30 aura of your choosing. I didn't look into it too much but I did hear that you can scale herald of the plauge's aoe unlike pathfinder's laughably bad prolif aoe ( worse at a locked 1.5 baseline vs heralds 1.8baseline ). Just an idea though there may be better things you could look for.
Yes! Same as before just the one change I went over. Also I delved deeper into investigating what would be the best decision for a mana flask suffix based on your prior comment on the other video. So I appreciate your question there :).
@@pathofky Yeah I noticed that ! I'm having a bit of a head buzz right now, I've managed to self corrupt a 296% Widowhail :D So if I invest a bit more into jewels (4x15% + 1x14%) I could probably lose 1 socket on the passive (most likely the one you took south). Anyway, I'd like to share some tips from my experience so far : -if you replace Plague burst with Spell echo on Decompose you don't really lose much damage but gain tons more coverage. -If you have a Quiver with Projectile Speed, Feathered Fletching becomes very attractive, since the poison scales off the initial hit (which does tons of damage already. For instance for me it would be 170% inc damage. Not sure if it's better then Lasting Trauma, or if it's even taken into account for our damage. Thought I'd point that out. :)
@@Okcettefoiscbon I did test feathered fletching and it does not work actually, at the time of my testing. The damage we are dealing is not WITH a bow. But bow skills is applying xd. I totally didn't even think of spell echo because it doesn't work with trigger skills in poe 1. That is very interesting but do you not burn through the corpses too fast? The duration of the clouds was something I really wish I could've extended more mainly for breach.
@@pathofky Good catch for Proj speed, fortunatly I didn't annoint it yet :) For breach it's so good actually. But i guess it depends on how you like to clear them. Usually I follow one side for a bit, I go to the other, then go back where I came from, that's how I get the most out of them. The monsters die almost as soon as they spawn, but when I reach a new "lane" I try to aim toward the back line, so when I run forward the chain reaction can start again, from then I just keep running. You can only explode the corpses that are in your radius, so it doesn't repeat if a corpse is out of range. So for me it's actually pro rather than a con. Stacks poison faster and bigger AoE. Best is testing for yourself, you'll see what I'm talking about, it's hard to explain in YT comment :p Trying to get Ingenuity atm. Never seen a single invitation, and I got 3 characters 90+ :/
Holy moly. I've actually been the invitations in maps quite a bit. If you haven't already I'd buy and run 2 to get the 50% increased chance to see them on the atlas tree.
Act 3 I took stun threshold. Not sure if it was a good choice or not TBH, I think the other 2 were mana regen and ailment threshold? Ailments defiantly arn't an issue, and with vine arrow delevel-tech here mana isn't an issue either. So I think in hindsight now it may be the best choice.
I could be wrong here. But I'm 98% sure that " skill effect duration " does not affect ailments from skills, just like POE1. The skill itself would have to state that it is inflicting something with a duration directly on the gem itself. Such as contagion having "debuff lasts for 6 seconds".
i have a question about stacking poisons, i saw a dev interview a while ago about poe2 where tehy talked about stacking ailments and took poision as an example, there they said if you stack multiple poisons it always takes the 2 highest damage one and does their damage and the others would only take over once one of those two finishes, is that no longer true? did they change that, because otherwise stacking poisions past 2 wouldnt be much of a dps increase besides it being easier to sustain the best two poisions.
What they were referring to there is when your max poison stacks are 2, and you then inflict lets say a third, the highest 2 of those 3 will be ticking. Our max stacks are 10, so our highest 10 will be ticking.
Which stats are most important on the quiver except "level of"? Do you think this build is worth swaping over to on a budget? Currently not liking my own gas arrow PF and this looks fun :)
I would recommend you go check out part 1, link for that is in the description and contains a much more budget friendly version. However Queen of the Forest is rather expensive now and remains a core piece to achieve this level of movement speed. You can absolutely play without it but you would be much slower and I would not recommend using these boots without queen of the forest.
I’m still a little confused about the shield swap versus bow and quiver, how do you swap to the shield to get more movement speed? I’m a little confused as to how the weapon swaps work and how you go back-and-forth between the two.
I go over this in part 1, check the "gem weapon sets" and "weapon set passive" sections. If that doesn't explain everything you are looking for reply back here again and I can get back to you in the morning.
@@pathofky im confused about this.. im new player trying to this build.. i have a noob question, why to swap? and when to? cause its 2 differents tree, its mean 1 for boss and the other for mapping?
Going over 250% on widowhail requires you to vaal orb it and then the roll to go up outside its usual range. I read a post that said the roll range before you vaal does not matter, so if that is to be trusted you can buy any roll of widowhail and vaal. Or buy an existing one. Fair warning I'm not sure if I was just insanely unlucky or not but I failed to vaal outside the range on about 20 bows and ended up just buying one.
@@pathofky yes when the outcome of the vaal is to increase/decrease the roll, it randomises the current roll first within the range (like a divine), then increases/dcreases
I was already mapping pre-pconc buff so I can't comment on leveling with it. I used gas arrow with plaugefinger gloves+ widowhail +big flat damage quiver upgrading every 10-15 levels and flew through campaign. I have heard a lot of people say pconc feels great though, and u can put on a glowswarm + arcane alchemy annoint + lower charges gained suffix flask to help sustain charges through zones.
Build will likely get hit in some ways. However as of right now conc-effect support is bugged and non-functional which is 40% more damage you'd use on pinnacle bosses, so hopefully that gets fixed aswell and recoups some of the loss if nerfed.
Can you provide any tips on how we can farm Queen of the Forest? At this stage, I really can't afford it and it is a key piece of the build. Currently I'm having fun but %10 movement speed is torture.
If you're asking for some currency advice I would HIGHLY recommend running rituals. A singular audience with the king invitation is 8 divines currently. Get 2 and you got ur queen of the forest. They are relatively rare, if you already have the 50% increased chance to see them it would be ideal. That was what I was farming.
@pathofky thank you for the answer. I'm lvl 32 actually, do you know when the third slot will be unlocked? What do you recommend for leveling with the 2 first gem ?
I'm sorry I do not know the exact character level requirement for each socket to be unlocked. I was already mapping before the pconc buff with gas arrow and swapped over post-buff so I can't comment on the ideal setup for leveling with it. For the first 2 supports I know comorbidity would be one, because your max poison stacks are likely rather low at that level. As for the second it would depend on what you are seeing on your end. But scattershot while progressing through zones and swapping in likely chaos infusion or deadly poison over that for bosses ( check your skills tooltip poison damage ) if you are easily sustaining your poison durations would be good I think.
Do you think there is work around for this build using CI as defensive layer against chaos? I tried but can only reach around 2k ES, 80% evasion on level 86 PS: I haven't use the unique body armor yet, so the numbers will definitely go down after I change it
IMO it'd be tough to get the level of ES you'd want to go ci with. You can cap chaos res easily with the ring craft I showed here + ingenuity. Problem with trying to go CI is our chest is a core item that has no energy shield. You could absolutely go CI without it, but at the cost of all the feel good that comes with having 105% movement speed. If you don't care about the movement speed I would swap some evasion nodes into the somewhat nearby hybrids in the monk area probably. Eternal youth could cover your es regen enough maybe if u find more life flask recovery and charge generation, but this is all spitballing and I haven't tested or tried looking into CI on this build at all.
@@pathofky Was spending time working on an alternative for more core defenses. You'd want to look into swapping bow/quiver for sceptre/shield, using Crest of Ardura and looking into CDR. To help offset the movement speed from Queen of the Forest, you'd use shield charge/blink for mobility instead. This allows you to lean more into evasion/ES hybrid nodes, and go with a very juicy ES chest piece. You also get some inherent block chance, for what that's worth. But due to swapping these cores around, it's a very different beast. You would also need a new method of wither stacking, which I've not fully worked out. I'd still be iffy on full CI from my number crunching, as health/ES hybrid with both blocking and evasion as backup seems quite solid. If you're going that way, Ghostwrithe could fit, but then you're all in on ES and less so the evasion buckets.
This is a pretty solid concept. I've been seeing the temporalis shenanigans for insanely low blink cd but didn't consider crest for it in an offhand setup. I'll keep that in my back pocket for some future builds. Thanks for sharing brother.
I run a CI setup that focuses more on the corpsewade boots for boss dmg but still use pconc for clear. I have way slower movement speed which can only be fixed by temporalis
Going to depend on exactly what is nerfed. One note is that conc effect support, a 40% more damage support that should be working for us, is currently entirely bugged and would be a significant damage boost over our worst support if fixed to work.
@@pathofky oh okay, I was thinking in terms of the the throwing of the conc using multipliers from the bow/ quiver even tho it’s not projectile (#% damage with bow skills)
Someone else has probably asked sorry but given the price of Queen of the Forest, should I just use a rare chest with life/res/evasion, stick with Corpsewade and accept I will just be slow? Or is it better to drop the boots if I don't also have the chest?
IMO I wouldn't use the boots without queen of the forest, unless you don't mind being very slow. There may be some alternatives to the boots for decent clear. One I was thinking of is finding 30 spirit either on your neck or bow rune sockets to fit in plague bearer. You'd need to find a way to ramp its levels a bit though.
The problem is without queen of the forest you are too slow, whith unique boots, and if you remove thats boots you loose a loot of control damage, i try to change, and always come back to queen of forest.
@ I’ve been using rares instead of either uniques and it’s been fine in tier 10-12s, maybe when I get higher I will feel more clear is required. In which case I will probably just try corpsewade and be slow. I don’t really mind although maybe I will end up getting hit by too much
Probably will, but when they do lets hope they also fix conc effect because thats a 40% damage support we would swap in for pinnacle bosses that currently just doesn't work at all xd.
You maintain your stacks when you swap, but do not build. In current setup you would need a ton of extra dex on the offhand setup to continue building. It caused no issues for me but if u do want to continue you can go for a martial weapon instead of the wand and look for a shield with a large dex suffix. You'd have to make up some int on other gear pieces aswell to maintain ghost dance while in offhand, as its stacks do NOT persist unlike wind dancer. This is why I landed on this decision.
by any chance can you do map shwocase with current gear and without Corpsewade boots? I wanna see how itself work Pathfinder Prolif becasue I have idea for some PConc build but can't use them and don't know how will look clearspeed without them. I will be glad a lot :)
Could do that but let me tell u it would defiantly be much worse clear. If you want to go for that I would recommend find a way to fit plague bearer and finding a way to ramp up its level a bit, that would improve your clear a lot if not using the boots.
Unfortunately Poisonous concoction is a skill granted by the pathfinder ascendency :(. But you can absolutely run queen of the forest in a deadeye build and it would feel amazing.
@@pathofkyOkay thank you, im trying to find something that can kill bosses quick like this thats not lighting arrow based but nothing seems to be this good?
@@JLM_1 on deadeye only la and nothing else, just go with new char, its fun and easy leveling with la/lr and widowhail with flat quiver, best leveling so far
@@JLM_1 explosive shot / stormburst rounds with crossbows. palsteron got a good guide on it. have played it myself to lvl 89 an t15 maps. singletarget is great.
Word to the wise, I don't have exactly the specs of this, but close with 36 lvl pconc, lvl 90 ranger and I get smoked by 4th trial boss in sekhemas. Not really smoked, but you will run out of flasks and be up a creek. I delete plenty of uber/pinnacle bosses, so I've no clue why this guy is so different must have insane HP pool but this makes me want to go back to Gas arrow.
I never did the last boss in sanctum, so I'm not sure what its hp pool is like or the kind of damage its doing. But if it had more HP than the t4 pinnacles that would be complete nonsense since you need to run it just for your 4th ascendency lol. Maybe you took some bad mods on your run and didn't realize?
You can socket it in there and as far as I can tell reading it it should work. Kind of hard to test but if you can see that it 100% doesn't please let me know lol.
I'm glad im already rocking this build, stuff for it already got 100 times more expensive. I wanna ask tho, isnt comorbidity too much ? Im using snakebite and dropped the gem. Its too much less duration with the ascendancy
With my current tree setup I have enough breathing room and can maintain 10 stacks on bosses. There are some alternatives like close combat. One other that would be the best is concentrated effect, however it is currently bugged and is not giving the damage.
Hey nice guide ! I have few questions :) - I got my poisonous concotion skill yesterday :) But i am unavaible to apply my Perfect Jeweller's Orb. I cannot upgrade the Quality either. How did you do it? - My bow is only 210%.. my dmg on my poisonous concotion is 12.500. Is it so low because of the bow ? I mean i still kill everything. I just wonder how is your dps score is so high :) Thank you and keep up the good work !
Poisonous concoction gains gem levels and sockets automatically. At level 90 it turns level 20 and gains its last socket. However as of writing applying quality to it is currently bugged, and you just can't as far as I know. A widowhail with a low that roll will defiantly reduce your damage by a significant chunk, and a corrupted one with a way higher roll is very cheap so if you are on a budget you could snag one of those.
- Poisonous concotion links open automatically, 5 link on 80 lvl, 6 link on 90lvl. And i think you can apply gemcutter's prism on it. - You have on quiver damage with bows? Maybe it's bug, but this node give very much DPS on tooltip and author talked and demonstrated about it previous video.
@@ohotnuk Yes i know. I have a quever which gives 48% incr. dmg. with bows. I have changed my bow now for a 256% one. My damage went to 15.500 :) I am level 88 so maybe that one last link is the main thing :)
Pconc socket scales with char lvls so, you just have to grind it. The +2 lvl quiver, +450% bow inc, + 3 projectile skill amulet, +1 chaos lvl node, +1 chaos mastery support, total to lvl 36. 11+3+1+1+20 =36. The damage scales geometrically with gem levels so, you have to hit all the right items. Mind you that the highest DPS i've seen on PConc is 180k, so the ceiling is pretty high.
I'm working that out too. I'm currently leaning towards removing all the evasion nodes and picking up more poison/+1 poison/chaos nodes, and then just grabbing acrobatics. You will free up a lot of nodes to point towards damage, flask stuff or really whatever you want. You won't be as fast, but you don't NEED qotf, it's just a very expensive quality of life item.
I honestly can't recommend using these boots without QoTF. However if you don't mind being a lot slower you can consider dropping some evasion and pathing to all the other movement speed nodes you can nearby with your second weapon set passives. If u did that a rare es/ev chest is the way to go. Blink and shield charge tech is still nice movement. Maybe the unique shield with 50% cdr instead in the offhand swap would be helpful for more movement.
why would they? they just buffed concoctions to a playable level in the last patch. and decompose needs a heavy investement. Queen of the forest or crawl through maps. no need to nerf anything.
@@petespeedsxp4967 yep, concs are basically single target skill, you need another tech for clear. this is actually investment needed to enter high tier maps, it's not broken
I made a maxroll guide off your video because its easier for me to follow (watched in .4 times speed to get everything) would you mind if i shared it for people asking? if not i understand but i just wanted to get your permission before proceeding.
No :(. Yes-ish without queen of the forest though seems like widowhail is very common aswell as the boots. You'd struggle to find really good jewels however.
I have responded to a ton of comments about this but forgot to put in the FAQ sorry about that. I was already mapping with gas arrow before the pconc buff so I can't comment on leveling with it. I leveled with Gas arrow, Plaugefinger gloves, widowhail, big flat damage quiver +/- inc damage with bow skills and flew through the campaign. If you want to go pconc immediatly consider a glowswarm unique ring for extra charge sustain early along with the gain charges flask suffix and arcane alchemy annoint. Hope this helps! :)
This is the endgame version. I'd put it somewhere in the range of 40-50div. My previous version was a much more budget setup, you can check that out via the link in the description if you are on a tighter budget :)
As of when I got them defiantly not. Also as I go over in the video the better your widowhail the cheaper your jewels will be. I recommend spending bigger on the widow hail as it will save you a much larger chunk on your jewels.
@@pathofkyyeah, everyone should be safe until Jan Just in general, pconc builds are just too crazy rn, check out Ruetoo’s guide as well: basically unkillable, top tier clear and bossing (maybe clear is mid+)
Yes very expensive, but not the most expensive! This is the endgame setup so it will be pricey :) if you are on more of a budget though I would recommend taking a look at part 1.
a chaos damage ring? wtf you doing bro? poison doesnt scale with chaos damage? am i missing something here? maybe just trying to scale the base chaos damage of the pconc? but then why not go all in on the hit damage like rueto
yep doesnt scale with chaos damage but poison scale with the damage you deal to mob, and the ring scale your SKILL damage so that --> You hit mob more damage --> apply more poison damage
the poison dot doesn't actually scale with chaos damage, it will scale with damage over time as well as poison damage. On the other hand, poison dots scale with the basic damage of the spell/attack (in this case, poison concoction), and since poison concoction inflicts chaos damage -> increasing the chaos damage of poison concoction boosts the damage of poison dots :)
idk after watching rueto it makes much more sense to just stack crit and big damage hits multipliers and ditch poison nodes altogether, its way more dps
@@laizerwoolf there should be no need. havent looked at ruetoo's, but i league started this. pconc has enough single target dps without crit. id look at defenses first if u want to be playing breach, deli, etc.
I dare any content creator on this game to make a build that doesn't involve market manipulation, early buy, or 14hours a day grind to sustain the gear. Just make it budget... to work with t15, on any class... good luck.
Easy. Don't use the QOTF and be slower. You'll actually get much more single target DPS saving all those nodes anyway, you just won't be as tanky or fast.
Part 1 video contains a much more budget version! At the time of posting it was like 6 div total of gear, but again QoTF was wayyyyy cheaper my casual friend who has only 1-2 hours a day to play was and is still playing it.
A recommendation for people who want to build this build: I spent 12 divines last Friday to build something with 50% of the streamer's damage, despite trying to get the highest damage, I have low resistances, and on elemental maps I'm made of paper, one hit and you die. Think carefully if you have the resources to build yourself the build as Pathofky says, since as he explains in the videos to see the numbers about 35k damage in pcon you need to have the gems and the widowhail at high damage levels, each gem with +10% quiver is worth 3 or more divines, the bow with 280% damage is worth 5 divines minimum, the quiver is the hearth of build, so you spend minimun 3-4 divines and queen of the forest, is the queen, the minimun cost for 700-800 evation rating is 5-7 divines. I currently have 15k damage in pcon, and I destroy everything in seconds in T13-T14, but they must be maps without magic, not elemental, because if not I die quickly, I am lvl 83.
Are you saying that your resistances are not capped in t13-14 maps? If so that is why you are feeling squishy. Also just took a look at jewels with 10%+ quiver effect and they are 50 exalts, please be careful when saying things like this. I'm sure it was unintentional but exaggerations like this can be very misleading. An important skill in path of exile is knowing what pieces you should upgrade within your own budget. This is an explanation of the more expensive late game setup. However if you are on more of a budget you should think what would get you the most bang for your buck. For example the final 50% increased quiver effect needed to get a level 36pconc at the 450% breakpoint vs going for 400% for the level 35 pconc is the difference between something like 5divines total all pieces included and 20 divines total. And while yes that 1 level will net you a solid chunk of extra damage, you should not be aiming to go that route yet if your current budget isn't even allowing you to cap your resistances. Late game mapping in POE2 your resistances being capped is not optional. That should be one of the first things you do on every character. You can cap your resistances on your 6 rare pieces for under a divine. Another example would be our amulet here. I just looked up an amulet with +2proj, both at least +90 max life and at least 35% maximum energy shield, and at least 1 resistance of 25% and there are 6 listed under 50 exalts. If I change just the + projectile from plus 2 to plus 3 it is now 4 divines at the lowest. Be very careful when selecting how to allocate your funds and you should aim to upgrade each piece you have incrementally because the cost of items with more effective lines for you will always scale exponentially with each line you add.
@@pathofky It's very true what you say, you don't necessarily have to max out each stat as you level up, as you point out this is an end game build, and my game isn't end game yet, rather, I'm in mid game. That's why I said that followers should think about it very carefully, because it's an end game build, if you have a limited budget, you can make the mistake I did, of going for more and getting away with less. Although I don't feel bad either, in fact I really enjoyed the build, because it destroys everything, but it's undeniable to say that if you don't have a lot of resources, you're not going to have the monstrous damage that your friend has, that's the reality XD. Thank you very much for taking the time to answer and clarify what could have been a misunderstanding. Greetings!
Love the adjustment with the ingenuity and the breach ring , will admit .. would have went for it anyway , as i want as much rarity as possible . You can easily Cap your resistances , Chaos Ress with it on top of a nice rarity boost + the inguinity % . which makes it easier to get double Rarity on helmet & Hands & Amulett . Thanks for the update , that just made sure my though process wasn't wrong haha .
Yup, you were spot on. Plenty of breathing room now to do whatever u want with your suffixes. I would have started reaching for the rarity to continue farming but I was pretty ready to go next build and got an itch for some hp stacking nonsense. Have fun brother.
@@pathofky thanks ! well will be some time until then.. but its nice to know you can get quite a decent amount of rarity with all those free sockets and ring % , helmet+gloves ( guess 200-250% seems viable )
This is the endgame asperational setup so yes some pieces are expensive. But gloves are 10ex, helm is 1-2div, boots are 1ex, chest and boots for bossing swap are both like 15ex. So defiantly not 10div for those pieces, large exaggeration. The breach ring I have you can buy in the range of 10div. But you can craft it yourself for 1-2div which is why I go over it in the video.
Why can't you just explain the support gems. Explain what you are doing to make the dmg get strong. So convoluted without following from first go. Explain for the noobs. Clear strats to go for to make this build work
Additional info and FAQ: Part1:ua-cam.com/video/_vjPvRLYNzg/v-deo.html
Feel free to comment any questions you may have and I will get back as fast as I can.
What is in offhand?: I once again forgot to talk about the offhand shield and now wand. Here you just want a shield with as much evasion rating as possible that you can fit into your current stat budget. The wand is just +4 to chaos spells and some cast speed for a little extra curse effect and ease of use on the curse + totem.
Advice if you have lower/no attack speed on your quiver yet: Swap a support gem out or to your boots, comorbidity chaos mastery or chaos infusion are good options, and slot in martial tempo for more feel good untill you can get a higher attack speed roll.
LEVELING?!?: I was already mapping with gas arrow pre-pconc buff so I can't comment on leveling with it. I leveled with Gas arrow, Plaugefinger gloves, widowhail, big flat damage quiver +/- inc damage with bow skills and flew through the campaign. If you want to go pconc immediately consider a glowswarm unique ring for extra charge sustain early along with the gain charges flask suffix and arcane alchemy annoint.
why WIdowhail bow and not another? Is the buff from quiver that good???
@@Piper0185 afaik, what you want to maximize is the +2 all Projectile skill from the quiver. Using widowhail can gives you up to 7 level instead of 2 (assuming you're at 250% multiplier)
If you use other bow and quiver, the most level you can get is +4 instead of 7.
And that's only talking about that single suffix line, there is bonus when using bow skill, crit chance crit damage, flat stats etc.
Your quiver multiply it by 3.5
@@Piper0185 Yes it is completely nuts right now. Also since pconc deals unarmed damage the base damage of your weapon is not factored into its damage calculation. Therefore you have a very small selection of weapons that you could use to scale pconc itself via your weapon slot.
@@pathofky i feel like it will get nerfed
How does the map clear feel? I mean single target is obviously nuts, but the clear, is it good?
loving this build so far, level 90 after a day or so. one thing i highly recommend trying out is martial tempo while mapping, my quiver only has 10% as so maybe just me but it felt incredibly slow which is a shame because the rest of the build is so fast/fluid - i swap comorbidity to boots and tempo in place of it and it's butter smooth, the less poison duration on the boots is hardly a downside because the smoke cloud persists. swap back for big bosses, map bosses not necessary as the damage is so big. thanks a bunch brother
my other tip is if you're swapping out boots for bosses, place the gems in your bow shot first so they dont spill into inventory :)
This is fantastic advice, I will yoink it and put it in the FAQ but someone give this guy some likes please.
Just watched the first video, i have to say, this is my favorite pathfinder build
So happy they gave us concoction buffs. Thanks for the guide!
Something to make note of when still gearing - The node Warding Potions gives 18% less Flask charges used from Mana Flasks and Pconc counts for this, reducing the number of charges used from 3 to 2 (I assume its because the game truncates the charges used.) Still need to have 3 charges available to cast, but only 2 gets subtracted.
I was curious about this, thanks for testing. Seems worth if you plan to keep leeching toxins anyway.
Also to add to this there is a unique ring u can put on level 1 called glowswarm which gives 0.25 mana flask charges per second. Very bad in endgame but can help u to sustain during the campaign if you like.
Would love a written guide on maxroll, mobalytics or wherever! otherwise very cool build
Really sorry about not having one up yet. I'm trying to find the time to learn them ( have never used either before, only POB ). I will try to get one up if I can.
@@pathofky pob will be back early jan i think cant wait
great couple of vids, love the build. looking forward to seeing what you’ve got brainstormed up for your Blood Witch
Glad to hear it brother, currently leveling and cooking.
Is Deadly Poison support on PConc that good? I was reading on the forums that it might not be as good as it appears. What do you think?
Just did some paper napkin math and with my current setup and tree it is about 30% more damage with no conditions. Edit: Unless tooltip or the gem is bugged in some way, what exactly were people saying?
handshake, thanks for the response. as a follow up, it's exactly as you describe -i went with the gloves to expand scaling along with the same unique bow for much the same reason. drops have been hard to come by if not nonexistent, currency is low, etc. i saw the bow and gloves as maybe some budget voltaxic rift with the idea to get bow damage, +2, lightning damage, and a third prefix of any element to keep the raw damage up (in addition to looking for additional elemental affixes on rings for example. i thought maybe prioritizing cold over fire for a second element given the penetration nodes around ranger/monk start, but i don't even know if it's applicable since, the skill isn't actually hitting. ideally i imagine you'd want a great phys bow for cloud but.. currency. that said with all the scaling options you describe I would hope I could reach similar numbers given investment/scaling but the sad part is the concoction alone is far greater damage than my cloud. I moved points from overwhelming toxicity just to see what the flask is about, moved gems over and the skill is just... better. I assume this is because my elemental damage isn't high enough to compete with the concoctions base chaos damage? with that said, anything you could add on this side bar? aside from just needing better gear to scale the ability I'm having a hell of a time running in circles thinking of what to prioritize with regard to scaling. the build philosophy so to speak was expand scaling options (and simplify), play high evasion, pick up as much ES as I can and grab the adjacent "damage" nodes. anyways, novel out of the way. I replied to you with a picture of the tree with my notes/thoughts if you have an opportunity to check. thanks again for your time mate, i'll keep and eye on that channel.
It is as you have said. Pconc with the buffed numbers simply crushes everything else for poison now. I and many others who I've spoken to, both here and on reddit, are in agreeance so far on this and I've yet to have anyone bring up a conflicting point to that. As for your tree I did have a look. But honestly without PoB the best way to compare your numbers is just check your gas arrows dps sheet in game. Respec nodes around and check if its gone up or down. It's impossible for me to tell at a glance this early in how your magnitude/increase/ect damage nodes would need to be balanced for maximum dps.
Hey! whats your opinion on the Acrobatics node?
I haven't been looking at too many of other people's builds, so I'm not certain when they are and are not taking it. But for us it would first off give us 70% less movement speed ( because evasion rating = to movespeed in our setup ). And 2 be quite bad on evasion/es hybrids IMHO. Ghost dance with 40k evasion instantly regenerates 2k es per stack. So unless you stand in > 5 slams/ground explosions simultaneously that are each dealing > 2k post-mitigation damage you will take little to 0 damage.
Great info on the ring crafting. Very useful.
Glad to help!
@pathofky What did you level as and when did you swap to poison conc?
I was already mapping with gas arrow before the buff to pconc so I can't speak on leveling with it. I leveled with gas arrow + plaugefinger gloves + widowhail + a quiver with alot of flat damage/ inc damage with bow skills upgrading it every 10-15 levels and was crushing the campaign.
It's very good to level as. Can swap as soon as you finish your Act 2 trial. I did gas arrow with flame wall before that. If you can't get Widowhail while leveling, any bow with proj gem levels works.
Have you checked the price of body armor? 😢
Ouch. I bought it for 50ex early in the league and when I posted my previous video it was 4div. Now 14 holy moly.
I had 5 Divine Budget , and made it work. im farming T15 delirium breach maps already . Just find a 100-110% evasion chest and buy it for cheaper. Upgrade step by step. rest of the gear focus on capping resistances etc. ( got 80% rarity ) , only 3/6 jewels . Its doable .
@@pathofky Yeah the moment a content creator posts any build worth playing they fuck the market for everyone else on the "cheap" items in their build.
also, you show us a webpage with max tier modifiers per item level. what page did you use? 13:24
That was poedb
Thats crazy gear! congrats!
Love the build. Any reason you haven't taken "heavy ammunition" and "careful aim" and the nodes connected to it that increase proj damage?
As of right now, our damage is already so massively overkill for all the content in the game that I chose to forgo aiming for any additional damage and go for as much movement speed as I could snag. I haved seen those and they arn't far off, If the " damage with bow skills " line gets removed then that could be somewhere to look for a bit more inc. damage. Assuming that they don't also fix conc. effect ( because it doesn't work at all currently and is bugged ) because that would easily recoup the damage loss.
Do you have any ideas on how to improve clearspeed? the bossing damage is already very very good, so much so that I'd be willing to trade half my bossing DPS for a little more mobbing speed.
I guess I'm just too used to playing with flicker/warp so everything else feels slow haha
The playstyle you should go for is to throw 1 pconc and then just keep running. Everything else that didn't go down will either already be in, or follow you into, the clouds from the boots. Not like anything but rares drop loot anyways so that was how I decided to play. If thats still not enough you can either reach for the +30 spirit* from the soul cores in 2 rune sockets and use plauge bearer. If you do go that route u will want to find some extra levels for it as IMHO at level 19 its very weak but it gets exponentially stronger with each level u have on it.
my dude, your build is so well made i love it. And the details to your video umm chef kiss
Thanks brother I appreciate that 💪🏼
Was already running a similar build but only with 12k dps on my PConc. Just wondering what the breakdown of your DPS is, especially the poison damage stat!
Seen a lot of improvements I can already make to my build, thank you!
how did you get all the asendancy points. I keep dieing to bosses
silly question, what venoms do you take from the story?
I took stun threshold / chaos res, I think these are probably the best two.
As people asked before, PLZ PLZ make a written guide ! Also if u could add up note in it about how you level in it , when you swap to poison. thx thx, awesome video
Hi! im confused on how you got the lvl 36 with the passive skill tree change because i have the exact same passive skill tree with the jewels needed and only got to lvl 34 (35 with the chaos mastery support gem but im not level 90 yet)
Hi! At level 90 your pconc will hit level 20 and that will get you to 36 assuming u are meeting the 450% breakpoint, have a +2 quiver, and +3 amulet.
@ thank you! I hit the 450% breakpoint so that’s why I was confused but now I can’t wait to hit 90! Just 4 more levels to go 😭
Do you plan on doing a level guide? Since we cant swap ascendency we cant really just make this build on the spot. We have to get there somehow. I was thinking about playing a PoE1-like build since it was my first one.
Once again another thing I forgot to talk about. Maybe I will just make a single leveling video as a general overview for every class. I was already mapping with gas arrow before the buff to pconc so I can't speak on leveling with it. I leveled with gas arrow + plaugefinger gloves + widowhail + a quiver with alot of flat damage/ inc damage with bow skills upgrading it every 10-15 levels and was crushing the campaign.
A maxroll guide would be great. Is it possible to level with poison? Or what build do u use to level. Then start using poison?
gas arrow + toxic growth is good for leveling i play poison since lvl 1
time lost jewel can provide the increase quiver effect on notable too
I didn't know that! Surely they are insanely expensive though right? I didn't look at them because they are impossible to search for until trade site has been updated to support their mods, at the time of writing at least.
Are there ideal runes for your widowhail or it doesn't matter?
I just kept the same widowhail I had before. But in this endgame setup you could go for the +30 spirit ones which are insanely expensive. But you could add an additional 30 aura of your choosing. I didn't look into it too much but I did hear that you can scale herald of the plauge's aoe unlike pathfinder's laughably bad prolif aoe ( worse at a locked 1.5 baseline vs heralds 1.8baseline ). Just an idea though there may be better things you could look for.
Added Corpsewade on last night, the clear feels so satisfying!
Thanks for the updated guide man! You're not showing the top of the passive tree, I assume it is the same as the previous version ?
Yes! Same as before just the one change I went over. Also I delved deeper into investigating what would be the best decision for a mana flask suffix based on your prior comment on the other video. So I appreciate your question there :).
@@pathofky Yeah I noticed that ! I'm having a bit of a head buzz right now, I've managed to self corrupt a 296% Widowhail :D So if I invest a bit more into jewels (4x15% + 1x14%) I could probably lose 1 socket on the passive (most likely the one you took south).
Anyway, I'd like to share some tips from my experience so far :
-if you replace Plague burst with Spell echo on Decompose you don't really lose much damage but gain tons more coverage.
-If you have a Quiver with Projectile Speed, Feathered Fletching becomes very attractive, since the poison scales off the initial hit (which does tons of damage already. For instance for me it would be 170% inc damage. Not sure if it's better then Lasting Trauma, or if it's even taken into account for our damage. Thought I'd point that out. :)
@@Okcettefoiscbon I did test feathered fletching and it does not work actually, at the time of my testing. The damage we are dealing is not WITH a bow. But bow skills is applying xd. I totally didn't even think of spell echo because it doesn't work with trigger skills in poe 1. That is very interesting but do you not burn through the corpses too fast? The duration of the clouds was something I really wish I could've extended more mainly for breach.
@@pathofky Good catch for Proj speed, fortunatly I didn't annoint it yet :)
For breach it's so good actually. But i guess it depends on how you like to clear them. Usually I follow one side for a bit, I go to the other, then go back where I came from, that's how I get the most out of them. The monsters die almost as soon as they spawn, but when I reach a new "lane" I try to aim toward the back line, so when I run forward the chain reaction can start again, from then I just keep running.
You can only explode the corpses that are in your radius, so it doesn't repeat if a corpse is out of range. So for me it's actually pro rather than a con. Stacks poison faster and bigger AoE.
Best is testing for yourself, you'll see what I'm talking about, it's hard to explain in YT comment :p
Trying to get Ingenuity atm. Never seen a single invitation, and I got 3 characters 90+ :/
Holy moly. I've actually been the invitations in maps quite a bit. If you haven't already I'd buy and run 2 to get the 50% increased chance to see them on the atlas tree.
What draught from den of snakes in act 3 did you go with?
Act 3 I took stun threshold. Not sure if it was a good choice or not TBH, I think the other 2 were mana regen and ailment threshold? Ailments defiantly arn't an issue, and with vine arrow delevel-tech here mana isn't an issue either. So I think in hindsight now it may be the best choice.
Any builder programs that I can follow?
i have question, top passive node "increased skill duration" for conc Poison time?
I could be wrong here. But I'm 98% sure that " skill effect duration " does not affect ailments from skills, just like POE1. The skill itself would have to state that it is inflicting something with a duration directly on the gem itself. Such as contagion having "debuff lasts for 6 seconds".
i have a question about stacking poisons, i saw a dev interview a while ago about poe2 where tehy talked about stacking ailments and took poision as an example, there they said if you stack multiple poisons it always takes the 2 highest damage one and does their damage and the others would only take over once one of those two finishes, is that no longer true? did they change that, because otherwise stacking poisions past 2 wouldnt be much of a dps increase besides it being easier to sustain the best two poisions.
What they were referring to there is when your max poison stacks are 2, and you then inflict lets say a third, the highest 2 of those 3 will be ticking. Our max stacks are 10, so our highest 10 will be ticking.
@ ahhhh ok that makes sense, great
Which stats are most important on the quiver except "level of"?
Do you think this build is worth swaping over to on a budget?
Currently not liking my own gas arrow PF and this looks fun :)
in the first video he says, %increase Quiver + Magnitud of Poison
I would recommend you go check out part 1, link for that is in the description and contains a much more budget friendly version. However Queen of the Forest is rather expensive now and remains a core piece to achieve this level of movement speed. You can absolutely play without it but you would be much slower and I would not recommend using these boots without queen of the forest.
is this better than using elemental gloves for poison scaling?
I’m still a little confused about the shield swap versus bow and quiver, how do you swap to the shield to get more movement speed? I’m a little confused as to how the weapon swaps work and how you go back-and-forth between the two.
I go over this in part 1, check the "gem weapon sets" and "weapon set passive" sections. If that doesn't explain everything you are looking for reply back here again and I can get back to you in the morning.
@@pathofky im confused about this.. im new player trying to this build.. i have a noob question, why to swap? and when to? cause its 2 differents tree, its mean 1 for boss and the other for mapping?
Also explained and gone over in those 2 sections + the "mapping explination" section
Hi, how to get more than 280% for bow? I dont understand
Going over 250% on widowhail requires you to vaal orb it and then the roll to go up outside its usual range. I read a post that said the roll range before you vaal does not matter, so if that is to be trusted you can buy any roll of widowhail and vaal. Or buy an existing one. Fair warning I'm not sure if I was just insanely unlucky or not but I failed to vaal outside the range on about 20 bows and ended up just buying one.
@@pathofky yes when the outcome of the vaal is to increase/decrease the roll, it randomises the current roll first within the range (like a divine), then increases/dcreases
what did u do for leveling did u grab poison conc first?
You can level as lightning arrow until maps and respec or swap to pconc when you have gain charges/sec flask + widowhail setup
I was already mapping pre-pconc buff so I can't comment on leveling with it. I used gas arrow with plaugefinger gloves+ widowhail +big flat damage quiver upgrading every 10-15 levels and flew through campaign. I have heard a lot of people say pconc feels great though, and u can put on a glowswarm + arcane alchemy annoint + lower charges gained suffix flask to help sustain charges through zones.
@@eiden2121 thanx for the replay and helpful info g.
@@pathofky kk thnx ill look into that
how did you allocate lausting trauma?
Amulet annoint. The Distilled emotions from delirium.
@@pathofky thank you very much!
how do you get 5 link on poisonous concoctions? I have a perfect jeweller's orb, but can't apply it.
when you take lvl 90 character, you get 5 slots.
The build is obviously amazing and I want to make it but will this survive post-holiday nerf?
Build will likely get hit in some ways. However as of right now conc-effect support is bugged and non-functional which is 40% more damage you'd use on pinnacle bosses, so hopefully that gets fixed aswell and recoups some of the loss if nerfed.
Can you provide any tips on how we can farm Queen of the Forest? At this stage, I really can't afford it and it is a key piece of the build. Currently I'm having fun but %10 movement speed is torture.
If you're asking for some currency advice I would HIGHLY recommend running rituals. A singular audience with the king invitation is 8 divines currently. Get 2 and you got ur queen of the forest. They are relatively rare, if you already have the 50% increased chance to see them it would be ideal. That was what I was farming.
Hello thanks for this video !
Can you tell me how to add slot for gem on concotion brew please ? i can't use joally gem on like other one
Pconc gains gem levels and sockets automatically as your character levels. At level 90 becomes level 20 and unlocks the final slot :)
@pathofky thank you for the answer. I'm lvl 32 actually, do you know when the third slot will be unlocked? What do you recommend for leveling with the 2 first gem ?
I'm sorry I do not know the exact character level requirement for each socket to be unlocked. I was already mapping before the pconc buff with gas arrow and swapped over post-buff so I can't comment on the ideal setup for leveling with it. For the first 2 supports I know comorbidity would be one, because your max poison stacks are likely rather low at that level. As for the second it would depend on what you are seeing on your end. But scattershot while progressing through zones and swapping in likely chaos infusion or deadly poison over that for bosses ( check your skills tooltip poison damage ) if you are easily sustaining your poison durations would be good I think.
Thank you for the informations, have a good run and merry christmas !
Do you think there is work around for this build using CI as defensive layer against chaos? I tried but can only reach around 2k ES, 80% evasion on level 86
PS: I haven't use the unique body armor yet, so the numbers will definitely go down after I change it
IMO it'd be tough to get the level of ES you'd want to go ci with. You can cap chaos res easily with the ring craft I showed here + ingenuity. Problem with trying to go CI is our chest is a core item that has no energy shield. You could absolutely go CI without it, but at the cost of all the feel good that comes with having 105% movement speed. If you don't care about the movement speed I would swap some evasion nodes into the somewhat nearby hybrids in the monk area probably. Eternal youth could cover your es regen enough maybe if u find more life flask recovery and charge generation, but this is all spitballing and I haven't tested or tried looking into CI on this build at all.
@@pathofky Was spending time working on an alternative for more core defenses. You'd want to look into swapping bow/quiver for sceptre/shield, using Crest of Ardura and looking into CDR. To help offset the movement speed from Queen of the Forest, you'd use shield charge/blink for mobility instead. This allows you to lean more into evasion/ES hybrid nodes, and go with a very juicy ES chest piece. You also get some inherent block chance, for what that's worth. But due to swapping these cores around, it's a very different beast. You would also need a new method of wither stacking, which I've not fully worked out. I'd still be iffy on full CI from my number crunching, as health/ES hybrid with both blocking and evasion as backup seems quite solid. If you're going that way, Ghostwrithe could fit, but then you're all in on ES and less so the evasion buckets.
This is a pretty solid concept. I've been seeing the temporalis shenanigans for insanely low blink cd but didn't consider crest for it in an offhand setup. I'll keep that in my back pocket for some future builds. Thanks for sharing brother.
I run a CI setup that focuses more on the corpsewade boots for boss dmg but still use pconc for clear. I have way slower movement speed which can only be fixed by temporalis
In the event of a nerf will this be dead or do you see any work arounds for potential nerfs on interactions
Going to depend on exactly what is nerfed. One note is that conc effect support, a 40% more damage support that should be working for us, is currently entirely bugged and would be a significant damage boost over our worst support if fixed to work.
@@pathofky oh okay, I was thinking in terms of the the throwing of the conc using multipliers from the bow/ quiver even tho it’s not projectile (#% damage with bow skills)
If they deleted that interaction and fixed conc effect you would be slightly above the dps here.
Okay cool, this build is so fun I’m hoping it stays viable and the nerfs don’t sent be back to the create a character screen
How do i get 6 Link PConc? I cant figure it out.
Thanks again for your Video and Build.
Ascendancy Skills scale with character level, at 65 you get 5 link, I think at 90 you get 6 link
@@Shingokuful Ah good to know! Thank you for your help!
A Moba or maxroll guide would be great, a request from your other video. o7
Working on one now
Hey bro. Does %dmg to bow skills count for Concotion?
Yes it does.
how do i get more sockets from Poisonous Concoction?
Get more LVL?
Get next ascendency?
Scales with character level.
Someone else has probably asked sorry but given the price of Queen of the Forest, should I just use a rare chest with life/res/evasion, stick with Corpsewade and accept I will just be slow? Or is it better to drop the boots if I don't also have the chest?
IMO I wouldn't use the boots without queen of the forest, unless you don't mind being very slow. There may be some alternatives to the boots for decent clear. One I was thinking of is finding 30 spirit either on your neck or bow rune sockets to fit in plague bearer. You'd need to find a way to ramp its levels a bit though.
The problem is without queen of the forest you are too slow, whith unique boots, and if you remove thats boots you loose a loot of control damage, i try to change, and always come back to queen of forest.
@@pathofky If you're not using queen of the forest you can get a rare chest with spirit on it right? Should let you fit in plague bearer.
@ I’ve been using rares instead of either uniques and it’s been fine in tier 10-12s, maybe when I get higher I will feel more clear is required. In which case I will probably just try corpsewade and be slow. I don’t really mind although maybe I will end up getting hit by too much
Rly well executed build 💪
Thanks brother💪
I wanted to play SSF when back from vacation but that build might change my mind...
Saved you from yourself nice
Feels like GGG is going to fix the interaction with "x% increased damage with bow skill" working on pconc.
Probably will, but when they do lets hope they also fix conc effect because thats a 40% damage support we would swap in for pinnacle bosses that currently just doesn't work at all xd.
does wind dancer work with offhand? i dont understand
You maintain your stacks when you swap, but do not build. In current setup you would need a ton of extra dex on the offhand setup to continue building. It caused no issues for me but if u do want to continue you can go for a martial weapon instead of the wand and look for a shield with a large dex suffix. You'd have to make up some int on other gear pieces aswell to maintain ghost dance while in offhand, as its stacks do NOT persist unlike wind dancer. This is why I landed on this decision.
by any chance can you do map shwocase with current gear and without Corpsewade boots? I wanna see how itself work Pathfinder Prolif becasue I have idea for some PConc build but can't use them and don't know how will look clearspeed without them. I will be glad a lot :)
Without you loose a looooot of aoe and it's terrible
Could do that but let me tell u it would defiantly be much worse clear. If you want to go for that I would recommend find a way to fit plague bearer and finding a way to ramp up its level a bit, that would improve your clear a lot if not using the boots.
@@pathofky yes max lvl the plague bearer if no boots 😁
Hello what do u Think? Which gems will be good for plague bearer? For that build if i don’t have this armor hmm? Thx for answer have a nice day
yeah Ingenuity
Utility Belt is around 1 milion divine ! impossible to get one !
Sadly yes, but this is designed to be the late-game aspirational version so things will be more expensive here :P
Welcome PoE! ppl will come up currency strats before end game to farm this stuff. Heard essences are decent
Do you know how to add socket to poisonous Concoction ? Level ?
Scales with your characters level. At level 90 unlocks the final socket and becomes level 20.
cool build, can this work for deadeye?
Poisonous concoction is a Pathfinder ascendancy skill. The skill is not a gem but in the ascendancy tree. Only Pathfinder
Unfortunately Poisonous concoction is a skill granted by the pathfinder ascendency :(. But you can absolutely run queen of the forest in a deadeye build and it would feel amazing.
@@pathofkyOkay thank you, im trying to find something that can kill bosses quick like this thats not lighting arrow based but nothing seems to be this good?
@@JLM_1 on deadeye only la and nothing else, just go with new char, its fun and easy leveling with la/lr and widowhail with flat quiver, best leveling so far
@@JLM_1 explosive shot / stormburst rounds with crossbows. palsteron got a good guide on it. have played it myself to lvl 89 an t15 maps. singletarget is great.
Word to the wise, I don't have exactly the specs of this, but close with 36 lvl pconc, lvl 90 ranger and I get smoked by 4th trial boss in sekhemas. Not really smoked, but you will run out of flasks and be up a creek. I delete plenty of uber/pinnacle bosses, so I've no clue why this guy is so different must have insane HP pool but this makes me want to go back to Gas arrow.
I never did the last boss in sanctum, so I'm not sure what its hp pool is like or the kind of damage its doing. But if it had more HP than the t4 pinnacles that would be complete nonsense since you need to run it just for your 4th ascendency lol. Maybe you took some bad mods on your run and didn't realize?
does momentum definitely work on corpsewade?>
You can socket it in there and as far as I can tell reading it it should work. Kind of hard to test but if you can see that it 100% doesn't please let me know lol.
It does
how can i get the skill Poisonous Concoction ?
Pathfinder ascendency passive.
I'm glad im already rocking this build, stuff for it already got 100 times more expensive. I wanna ask tho, isnt comorbidity too much ? Im using snakebite and dropped the gem. Its too much less duration with the ascendancy
With my current tree setup I have enough breathing room and can maintain 10 stacks on bosses. There are some alternatives like close combat. One other that would be the best is concentrated effect, however it is currently bugged and is not giving the damage.
Sorry man but your Despair has more supports in it than your last video , can you clarify whats in it?
It is the extra one I talked about in part 1 heightened curse. With the vine-arrow delevel tech the mana cost won't feel as bad.
How is +1 from snake bites giving you +2 stacks?
Pathfinder ascendency doubling max poison stacks.
Hey nice guide ! I have few questions :)
- I got my poisonous concotion skill yesterday :) But i am unavaible to apply my Perfect Jeweller's Orb. I cannot upgrade the Quality either. How did you do it?
- My bow is only 210%.. my dmg on my poisonous concotion is 12.500. Is it so low because of the bow ? I mean i still kill everything. I just wonder how is your dps score is so high :)
Thank you and keep up the good work !
Poisonous concoction gains gem levels and sockets automatically. At level 90 it turns level 20 and gains its last socket. However as of writing applying quality to it is currently bugged, and you just can't as far as I know. A widowhail with a low that roll will defiantly reduce your damage by a significant chunk, and a corrupted one with a way higher roll is very cheap so if you are on a budget you could snag one of those.
@@pathofky Thanks ! Can you explain also your jewels. At the moment i am running poison magnituted and poison duration mainly :) Ty !
- Poisonous concotion links open automatically, 5 link on 80 lvl, 6 link on 90lvl. And i think you can apply gemcutter's prism on it.
- You have on quiver damage with bows? Maybe it's bug, but this node give very much DPS on tooltip and author talked and demonstrated about it previous video.
@@ohotnuk Yes i know. I have a quever which gives 48% incr. dmg. with bows. I have changed my bow now for a 256% one. My damage went to 15.500 :) I am level 88 so maybe that one last link is the main thing :)
Pconc socket scales with char lvls so, you just have to grind it. The +2 lvl quiver, +450% bow inc, + 3 projectile skill amulet, +1 chaos lvl node, +1 chaos mastery support, total to lvl 36. 11+3+1+1+20 =36. The damage scales geometrically with gem levels so, you have to hit all the right items. Mind you that the highest DPS i've seen on PConc is 180k, so the ceiling is pretty high.
is it possible to increase the quality of concoction?
As far as I can see, the only ascendency who can is Gemling Legionnaire, who doesn't have any skills in their ascendency.
so not use connected chemistry Ascendancy node?
No! Do not. Stick with Traveller's wisdom. That was just for an example.
Good job
Thank you!
Isn't gemling like wayyyy better for max life stacking?
That has nothing to do with this build or video....
I want to play vlad witch mommy with big life number and meme helm, nobody can stop me.
Could you make a video just running maps pls so we get a good idea of gameplay
Part 1 has a full map showcase towards the end of the video!
@pathofky yeah but you know see a couple of maps how it works, would be nice
if we can't afford qotf... what to do? :(
I'm working that out too. I'm currently leaning towards removing all the evasion nodes and picking up more poison/+1 poison/chaos nodes, and then just grabbing acrobatics. You will free up a lot of nodes to point towards damage, flask stuff or really whatever you want. You won't be as fast, but you don't NEED qotf, it's just a very expensive quality of life item.
I honestly can't recommend using these boots without QoTF. However if you don't mind being a lot slower you can consider dropping some evasion and pathing to all the other movement speed nodes you can nearby with your second weapon set passives. If u did that a rare es/ev chest is the way to go. Blink and shield charge tech is still nice movement. Maybe the unique shield with 50% cdr instead in the offhand swap would be helpful for more movement.
do u think ggg will nerf this after new years? and how will they nerf?
simple, number scaling per lvl
why would they? they just buffed concoctions to a playable level in the last patch. and decompose needs a heavy investement. Queen of the forest or crawl through maps. no need to nerf anything.
@@petespeedsxp4967 yep, concs are basically single target skill, you need another tech for clear. this is actually investment needed to enter high tier maps, it's not broken
Bro my poision conc 4 socket how u 5 socket?
Level up. Sockets are based on your character level.
Gains sockets and levels automatically with your character level. Character level 90 for level 20 and full sockets.
Awesome build. Do you mind if I introduce your build to my community? They will love it.
Sure, go for it! Link my video there incase anyone wants to see the english version plspls :))
@@pathofky ofc! will def link part I & II. I will try my best to put every word of yours in Korean lol
Just checking but you will be recording your own footage correct? I don't want it to just be a duplicate video with translated voiceover though.
I made a maxroll guide off your video because its easier for me to follow (watched in .4 times speed to get everything) would you mind if i shared it for people asking? if not i understand but i just wanted to get your permission before proceeding.
or do you have a discord where i can contact you about making guides on maxroll or help you learn it?
What's your discord tag?
@@pathofky sharkbyte it has the same image as this one in the profile
ssf friendly?
No :(. Yes-ish without queen of the forest though seems like widowhail is very common aswell as the boots. You'd struggle to find really good jewels however.
Mobalytic biuds please 😢
Check replies on top comment :)
I'm following your build, currently lab4 and only missing quiliver 40% damage, currently lv 70 but too strong❤
Awesome, glad you're having fun brother.
Still no word on how to level this :(
I have responded to a ton of comments about this but forgot to put in the FAQ sorry about that. I was already mapping with gas arrow before the pconc buff so I can't comment on leveling with it. I leveled with Gas arrow, Plaugefinger gloves, widowhail, big flat damage quiver +/- inc damage with bow skills and flew through the campaign. If you want to go pconc immediatly consider a glowswarm unique ring for extra charge sustain early along with the gain charges flask suffix and arcane alchemy annoint. Hope this helps! :)
budget?
This is the endgame version. I'd put it somewhere in the range of 40-50div. My previous version was a much more budget setup, you can check that out via the link in the description if you are on a tighter budget :)
@@pathofkyaren’t the jewels alone already exceeding that ? Quiver Boni are super expensive…
As of when I got them defiantly not. Also as I go over in the video the better your widowhail the cheaper your jewels will be. I recommend spending bigger on the widow hail as it will save you a much larger chunk on your jewels.
Yeah🎉
either pconc or the bow interaction is going to get nerfed/changed, no way ggg will let this fly for too long
No nerf prayge. Probably safe for at least a little while though since they are on a skeleton crew until after new years.
@@pathofkyyeah, everyone should be safe until Jan
Just in general, pconc builds are just too crazy rn, check out Ruetoo’s guide as well: basically unkillable, top tier clear and bossing (maybe clear is mid+)
Chris wilson endorsement 😂
i can't get the damn chest....
The belt is so expensive XD
Yes very expensive, but not the most expensive! This is the endgame setup so it will be pricey :) if you are on more of a budget though I would recommend taking a look at part 1.
stop making video about it we will pay 15x the normal price for the items lol
My bad I'll stop :P
@@pathofkyits done everything is fking expensive. i had this build im gonna sell everything lmao.
Lol to the moon price😂😂😂
So, 2 videos and no link... lazy
The chest is now 12-13 divines.... rip
Yes its very sad, was 4 when I posted part 1.
@@pathofky Does it blow up this fast only because of a build guide?
Maybe maybe not. But traditionally yes anytime a build guide gets popular the price of items increase because supply / demand.
a chaos damage ring? wtf you doing bro? poison doesnt scale with chaos damage?
am i missing something here? maybe just trying to scale the base chaos damage of the pconc? but then why not go all in on the hit damage like rueto
yep doesnt scale with chaos damage but poison scale with the damage you deal to mob, and the ring scale your SKILL damage so that --> You hit mob more damage --> apply more poison damage
the poison dot doesn't actually scale with chaos damage, it will scale with damage over time as well as poison damage.
On the other hand, poison dots scale with the basic damage of the spell/attack (in this case, poison concoction), and since poison concoction inflicts chaos damage -> increasing the chaos damage of poison concoction boosts the damage of poison dots :)
idk after watching rueto it makes much more sense to just stack crit and big damage hits multipliers and ditch poison nodes altogether, its way more dps
@@Araxeus I feel the same way, going crit, scales way better than chaos dmg inc. especially If ur looking for a quick bosskiller.
@@laizerwoolf there should be no need. havent looked at ruetoo's, but i league started this. pconc has enough single target dps without crit. id look at defenses first if u want to be playing breach, deli, etc.
I dare any content creator on this game to make a build that doesn't involve market manipulation, early buy, or 14hours a day grind to sustain the gear. Just make it budget... to work with t15, on any class... good luck.
Easy. Don't use the QOTF and be slower. You'll actually get much more single target DPS saving all those nodes anyway, you just won't be as tanky or fast.
Part 1 video contains a much more budget version! At the time of posting it was like 6 div total of gear, but again QoTF was wayyyyy cheaper my casual friend who has only 1-2 hours a day to play was and is still playing it.
A recommendation for people who want to build this build: I spent 12 divines last Friday to build something with 50% of the streamer's damage, despite trying to get the highest damage, I have low resistances, and on elemental maps I'm made of paper, one hit and you die. Think carefully if you have the resources to build yourself the build as Pathofky says, since as he explains in the videos to see the numbers about 35k damage in pcon you need to have the gems and the widowhail at high damage levels, each gem with +10% quiver is worth 3 or more divines, the bow with 280% damage is worth 5 divines minimum, the quiver is the hearth of build, so you spend minimun 3-4 divines and queen of the forest, is the queen, the minimun cost for 700-800 evation rating is 5-7 divines.
I currently have 15k damage in pcon, and I destroy everything in seconds in T13-T14, but they must be maps without magic, not elemental, because if not I die quickly, I am lvl 83.
Are you saying that your resistances are not capped in t13-14 maps? If so that is why you are feeling squishy. Also just took a look at jewels with 10%+ quiver effect and they are 50 exalts, please be careful when saying things like this. I'm sure it was unintentional but exaggerations like this can be very misleading. An important skill in path of exile is knowing what pieces you should upgrade within your own budget. This is an explanation of the more expensive late game setup. However if you are on more of a budget you should think what would get you the most bang for your buck.
For example the final 50% increased quiver effect needed to get a level 36pconc at the 450% breakpoint vs going for 400% for the level 35 pconc is the difference between something like 5divines total all pieces included and 20 divines total. And while yes that 1 level will net you a solid chunk of extra damage, you should not be aiming to go that route yet if your current budget isn't even allowing you to cap your resistances. Late game mapping in POE2 your resistances being capped is not optional. That should be one of the first things you do on every character. You can cap your resistances on your 6 rare pieces for under a divine.
Another example would be our amulet here. I just looked up an amulet with +2proj, both at least +90 max life and at least 35% maximum energy shield, and at least 1 resistance of 25% and there are 6 listed under 50 exalts. If I change just the + projectile from plus 2 to plus 3 it is now 4 divines at the lowest.
Be very careful when selecting how to allocate your funds and you should aim to upgrade each piece you have incrementally because the cost of items with more effective lines for you will always scale exponentially with each line you add.
@@pathofky It's very true what you say, you don't necessarily have to max out each stat as you level up, as you point out this is an end game build, and my game isn't end game yet, rather, I'm in mid game. That's why I said that followers should think about it very carefully, because it's an end game build, if you have a limited budget, you can make the mistake I did, of going for more and getting away with less.
Although I don't feel bad either, in fact I really enjoyed the build, because it destroys everything, but it's undeniable to say that if you don't have a lot of resources, you're not going to have the monstrous damage that your friend has, that's the reality XD.
Thank you very much for taking the time to answer and clarify what could have been a misunderstanding.
Greetings!
Too bad, if you can't stack a minimum of +300% rarity, the build is dead /s
xd just close your eyes and pretend it doesn't exist. Surely it just gets deleted *deep copium inhale*.
Love the adjustment with the ingenuity and the breach ring , will admit .. would have went for it anyway , as i want as much rarity as possible . You can easily Cap your resistances , Chaos Ress with it on top of a nice rarity boost + the inguinity % . which makes it easier to get double Rarity on helmet & Hands & Amulett . Thanks for the update , that just made sure my though process wasn't wrong haha .
Yup, you were spot on. Plenty of breathing room now to do whatever u want with your suffixes. I would have started reaching for the rarity to continue farming but I was pretty ready to go next build and got an itch for some hp stacking nonsense. Have fun brother.
@@pathofky thanks ! well will be some time until then.. but its nice to know you can get quite a decent amount of rarity with all those free sockets and ring % , helmet+gloves ( guess 200-250% seems viable )
Quite expensive gear :)
every good piece of gear is almost 10 divine.
This is the endgame asperational setup so yes some pieces are expensive. But gloves are 10ex, helm is 1-2div, boots are 1ex, chest and boots for bossing swap are both like 15ex. So defiantly not 10div for those pieces, large exaggeration. The breach ring I have you can buy in the range of 10div. But you can craft it yourself for 1-2div which is why I go over it in the video.
@@pathofky I'm using a small budget version of this, its been good melting bosses and one shotting boss T5 for now, i'm a beginer
Why can't you just explain the support gems. Explain what you are doing to make the dmg get strong. So convoluted without following from first go. Explain for the noobs. Clear strats to go for to make this build work
I go over all the support gems and every piece of the build in part 1 :)
Ripping someone else's build not cool
Who? I posted my part 1 of this build 3 days ago.
leveling ?
need to talk to you, you have discord?
Sure! @pathofky