Norwegian woman here, nope, I do not want a man to pay for me, it makes me feel uncomfortable. It feels transactional. Not saying there's any bad intentions or anything, I just think there are way better ways to demonstrate your worth besides throwing money at it. Show kindness, show interest, show who you are. If you are genuine, you will be appreciated. I also agree with the person who wrote that getting to know someone by just talking is less of a thing here, that getting to know people through shared activity is a way more preferred method (not into the whole hookup culture thing, but generally the social connections I have that have lasted have come through shared activity, not by just talking). I think maybe because we tend to hate smalltalk, and it takes time to get past that with a new acquaintance, but you can sort of bypass that awkward smalltalk phase by naturally getting to know them through shared activity. You don't have to force a conversation, it can instead evolve naturally, and lulls in the conversation feels less awkward because you have other things you can focus on (in my case I attend a boardgaming club, and we can always just turn to the game itself if conversation doesn't flow).
Nordic here, yeah I would feel uncomfortable and like I am in debt to someone if they pay for my food (unless they are family). I think Chivalry looks very different in different cultures. Here I would say Chivlary is to make sure your date comes home safe, because it shows that you care about them. Whether that be to follow them home, or text them.
@@Vixtuoso I almost always check up on those I care about if we go home separate ways, regardless of gender or age. I send a text asking them if they got home safe, just to check on them. (edit: and luckily, i havent needed to do more than that because they get home safe) Making a lot of assumptions here. :)
@@Vixtuoso What projection! Norway is famed for equality. Of course that would go both ways, but if the man is being chivalrous, this is how he might do it. A woman might show her interest and care in the same way, depending on the situation. But also through other means. Judgemental much?
Something that enables them to have an objective perspective. Regardless, many people in this country agree with him. When an overwhelming number of young men cheered for Trump.. I think that says something.
Although that shouldn't be dismissed. Yes, if you're more engrained in our culture, you'd likely be more accepted also on the dating arena, but foreigners come with important perspectives that we don't have
@@Vixtuoso it's a "her" not a him, and if by "this country" you mean Norway the Trump thing was a misleading poll. A more recent poll showed about 25% of young men who like Trump, and it's by far the largest percentage in any demographic. 75% of the population view him as having a negative effect on the world
Also some one claiming to have come from the UK and Spain to Norway and claiming that Norwegian divorce rates are soaring when in reality both the UK (1.7/100k) and Spain (1.8/100k) have higher divorce rates than Norway (1.5/100k).
@@VixtuosoDepends. You judge from your own perspective and as foreigners which would be heavily culturally biased, as well the values, social norms etc. that they have in their country and culture. Most countries aren’t as liberal and open minded as ours, and in general the whole of the Nordics, but heavily loaded with religious dogmas and brainwash as well as patriarchy. In most foreigners eyes and this is also what they are served and told rooted in political propaganda, that we are basically whores because we sleep around and have a very liberal view when it comes to nudity and sex in general. And if you go on any dating behind borders videos especially with Icelanders, and Norwegians in them, comments like “incest” and “sluts” seem to reign supreme. But we have been like this since the Viking Age🤣🤣🤣
Dating in Norway is really not the same as in USA or many other cultures. We like to get to know the other person before we even consider calling anything a date. Even then, we mostly don't "date". We do stuff together. Going for hikes, watching movies, playing games, going on Road-trips, partying and so on. We might even go out to eat together, but very rarely is it considered a date. We mostly start calling it dates after we officially get into a relationship. Then we will have datenights just to enjoy each other's company. In regards to chivalry, it is most assuredly alive and well in Norway. The problem is that many Norwegians ah e a very practical view of it, as opposed to a romantic one. Like giving your significant other flowers and chocolate; we do this and the other person will be momentarily happy and pleased, which is good. That's the romance. Then comes the practicality: "damn, where did you buy these flowers? They're dying already and it's only been three days. I love the gesture, but next time, try to think of something that will last longer." In regards to paying and opening doors and such, many people love when others do this. I love to do it, and I love it when someone does it for me. But, as mentioned in the video, to Norwegians, equality is extremely important, which is why sometimes if you as a man propose to pay for dinner, s/he will straight up refuse. "we each pay our part or we can both do the dishes in the kitchen". Many people, be they male or female may even take offense at the suggestion of someone else paying for them or opening the door and such. I am a Norwegian myself, 39 years as of a couple of months ago. I think Norwegians are some of the strangest and weirdest people on this planet. And I love it 😁
Thanks for the support, guys. A clarification though: I don't mean that people never date before they enter a relationship, just that, if you look at the big picture, it's a minority. That said, going on "dates" before entering a relationship is a rising trend in Norway, especially for women. "I met this guy on tinder/whatever app/website and we're going on a date on Friday." But is it a date? Or is it a coffee and a meal and getting to know the other person? In my mind, a "date" always has romantic connotations, while just hanging with someone does not, though romance can be the outcome. Jeez, I got way too far into this now. Sorry for my rambling :-s
@@Maltanoro "Going on a date" and "dating" are two different things imo. You can do one without the other. Most Norwegians will indeed consider themselves to be "dating" someone before they're in an actual relationship with them, but they don't necessarily go on dates with said person. They just do activities together, go out to a coffee shop, watch a movie, cuddle at home, hook up, go on hikes, hook up again, go out drinking, hook up some more... What is considered "hooking up" in other cultures is considered "dating" in Norway 😂
Again, this is only ONE persons perspective, and they are also probably a foreigner, which says a lot. She likely only has experience with Oslo or something, when Norway is so much more than just that. Also she seems so bothered by the fact that she as a woman has to take the first step. Well, Nordic men in general are much more reserved, and honestly much more respectful towards women, compared to most other cultures. Isn’t that a good thing? People like her will act offended when the ‘’wrong’’ men give them attention, but when they don’t come flocking towards her she’s suddenly bothered by that too. LOL!😂😂😂
And also, they've been in Norway for under a year. There's a limited amount of culture you can see in 1 year. If you've lived somewhere for a year and feel that you're assimilated, you're probably wrong.
I think it makes sense that this is expected in countries that have paid maternal leave, cheap free healthcare, cheap child care services and laws that enables women to retain their jobs after giving birth. In countries that don’t have this, women’s financial situation is a lot more precarious and reliant on the husband.
@@magnusalexander2965 All relationships are transitional in some ways but Americans seem to be totally clueless over the fact that there are different types of relationship dynamics.
If you, in Norway, are looking for a partner, you'll most likely meet them through friends or activities. And this video is full of so much misinformation, I don't even know where to start.
I would take most of these points with a grain of salt. Men more often than not pay for the date, gender roles exist, women aren't always on the prowl hunting for guys. He definitely went to the wrong place and has a narrow view, seeing as he just went to a few clubs, talked to a few drunk girls and probably saw 2 people using a dating app 😅
I remember meeting my man at an amatour movie set. we randomly started to talk and found out we shared interests in gaming and cooking. we gradually started to spend more time with each other. before i knew it, we were together. we never had an official date before this point. but have had many after
It's always been said that you don't find your potential wife at discos or pubs. Before I met my partner in life, I had two relationships before, and they didn't stay by my side because we were just out of sync. And I met both of them at the Disco where a friend knew a friend and they knew each other from before. And after the first evening we exchanged telephone numbers, also after a couple of days I made contact and invited to dinner out. Then we got to know each other much better, and that helped, but unfortunately not enough. I was with one for two years, and the other for four months. Then one day I randomly met a friend who was going to drive his neighbor to the train, and the neighbor became my roommate, but that only happened a year after I first met her. When we had greeted each other, I saw her again at a garden party at my friend's, then I met her again at a birthday party at my friend's, we also met again when I was on a walk in the forest. When she went alone, and I went alone, I suggested that we could go together, and that was the beginning of a wonderful cohabitation. Today we have two adult sons, and are simply fine together.
The comment about doing vs talking is absolutely right. Remember that Norwegians are like cats. We don't like having to sit down and just talk. Talking is fine, but only really when it's part of doing something active, and it won't have immediate results. And often, getting us to even start opening up, you need either a common interest, a common connection, or a social lubricant such as drinks. For a Norwegian, sitting down and talking to another that you don't know is usually something you do if you have an issue with them. So you can probably imagine how that would translate as a dating tactic. And much like cats, we are hard to bond with, but once you have a bond, it's strong.
The motivation behind actions count alot in my mind, regardless of the situation. Getting to know somebody shouldn't require jumping through hoops for either sex Personally I would prefer to have a hiking trip or another activity than anything "club or dinner in a restaurant" related- Clear communication and expectation management is a benefit to both sides. As a male I could pay, but wouldn't apreciate being forced to do so ;-) The "men pay and women give it up" transaction is WEIRD!
The most common places we norwegians find our long-term partners are either through friends and social shperes expanding, through work, or through school. In other words, we find people in settings where we are naturally spending time together, and getting to know eachother slowly over time. For then later potentially going on a coffee or dinner date after knowing them as people--to see if there is chemistry. So after having went on said date, it's not uncommon to just declare a partnership then and there, since you already know eachother and felt the chemistry. (The aftermath of these coffee or dinner dates does not always, but not rarely either, end up with intimacy and the like at oneanother's place.) So yeah, it's a very different way of approaching dating, because the "dating phases" are not usually somerthing you can define here, but rather just assimilation over time, and then later when you are both single and daring, testing the waters.
I am a norwegian woman. Wouldnt want a guy to pay for anything for me. If I am interested in a man, I will make contact. Dont qant to be chased in any form, I will let the person know I am interested if he is not in return, thats that.
Which arguably is good. It's an outdated concept in many ways. Especially the way it _used_ to be done with almost no possibility for an exit if need be due to social stigma, illegality, etc. Letting people exit toxic relationships easily is a good thing.
gender roles actually are existent. however we don't really advertise it as much. thing is both roles are important if you want a mentally and physically healthy child to grow up, once you get to that point i mean. the whole women are more " aggressive " part, norwegian men don't really do their part unless they're 50% alcohol and 50% human. if it was not for the alcohol we'd be extinct.
I agree, we do pay for us self, when you are a long time couple sometimes i pay & sometimes he pay. If you just go on a date, and a man pay for you, its like you own him something,or feel you use the man, so nope. I would also feel stupid if i got a man i was on a date with to pay for me. Not for most Nordic people. We like equality so its just natural for us and pay for ourselves
When I lived in the UK I'd always describe Norwegian dating as "We'd go to the clubs in packs of girls and boys. Then we'd find someone to hook up with at the end of the night and if we enjoyed the experience and the person we'd swap numbers in the morning. If not, no harm no foul we both had fun." This is in part why Norwegians find the whole dating experience so weird and Americans very puritanical ;) I guess some of that "Conquer through doing" Viking mentality still lives in us ;)
I'm a Norwegian man. I was 18 in 1989, and that's when I started to meet girls (except for a few during school earlier). But growing up back then without any apps, it was never dating in the American sense: like meeting a girl, asking her out on dates, and then maybe having sex on the third date. It was always getting drunk at a bar and then hooking up with drunk girls, and if you still liked each other the next day, that could be the start of a relationship.
I feel like point 3 is dependent on where you live in Norway, because where I grew up. It's the opposite. The men go chasing and the women just want to tease and play hard to get to the point the men will just stop chasing and just enjoy the night out instead with the other guys. I've never heard about or seen women just walking over to some guys and touching their face unless they know those guys really well, even then I've never seen it. Marriage is far less common in Norway compared to other cultures and countries as well. Most of the friend couples I have aren't married, and they've been together for 10+ years. It's just not something we all see as necessary. When it comes to who pays for the food, it's most common that we pay for our own food, and then maybe the guy or even the girl offer to pay for it, and even then we might decline the offer and still pay for our own food. It's just how we are, we like to "carry our weight" so to speak. There's also no gender role where the man has to provide for the woman and have the highest salary. I guess we're just more about being equal and both provide to the relationship and both do their best to make sure it's working and healthy.
Okey I got prove 😅 I am outdated I don't go out pubs and party places. Because I have never seen ladies behave like that when they are out and party. And the ladies I know don't act like that.
Norwegian woman here. I must say I actually hugely appreciate chivalry and being paid for a little bit - perhaps not ALL the time. I do not take it for granted, demand it nor expect it, and I don't feel entitled. Nor does it feel right to never pay for anything. There is nuance! While being asked to split the bill 50-50 makes my ovaries wilt, it only feels good to receive from someone when I'm assured that the they can afford it and would love to pay, or give whatever genuinely feels good for them to give. Then I can really deeply appreciate it. It's not about rules or entitlement so much as what genuinely feels good to give and receive. I don't really date, though. My opinion/preference is based on a few different relationship experiences.
37.1% was the divorce rate in Norway in 2022. I think it is difficult to be 41 years old and single. The older you are, the more difficult it is to date. Dating is not easy in Norway. Missing men who go the extra mile and take the initiative. It is almost completely gone.
For decades, men have been told that they must stand at the back of the queue, and let women into all areas of society, although women already dominate in many areas. They have grown tired of the loud women's constant belittling of them as men. Metoo did more harm than good to women because it caused men to pull away from women to protect themselves from unfair accusations of sexual assault. If men try to tell how they feel in society, they are told that they are weird incels and have themselves to blame. Therefore, they socialize with each other, and many have decided that they can manage without women in their lives - or at least until things change. Nor do they have the same ticking biological clock. If women want change, they must go within themselves and collectively show men that they want them back in their lives as equal partners. This I write as a mother and aunt of young men.
Norwegians rarely, if ever, invite outsiders to their tight-knit groups. Being social, and often even civil, is an alien concept. The statistics of people in Oslo that feel lonely is very sad reading. I have lived in Oslo for years and have many friends, but no norwegians.
I think most Norwegians find their partners at work, via friends or via common interests after work. So it's definitely true that friendships can evolve into relationships. One reason could be that Norwegians feel more comfortable asking a friend out for a date than a complete stranger. Dating apps aren't as popular here and most who try them have negative experiences. E. g, men on dating apps rarely get any hits. It's not my impression that women are throwing themselves after men to get a relationship. What was described was probably single middle aged women going to a club to get hooked up. You don't find your life partner there. When you date a woman you don't want to be too pushy as a man. So it's normal for the first date that both pay for themselves. You can offend the woman if you offer to pay for her. It's like you're pushing her to feel some kind of obligation to you to return the favor in a future date. You don't know if the first date would lead to more dates. Once you have established a connection it's not uncommon that the person inviting the other out for dinner will pay. Women can also initiate the invitation. Chivalry is not dead in Norway, but men are often a bit scared to do too much early on in the relationship because it can be considered that you do it because you have an agenda. Men like to be chivalrous to their girlfriend, but that's after they have become a couple. My impression is that most Norwegian women appreciate the chivalry if it's natural and not done to score points or show off. E. g. if you're holding the door for everybody then that's appreciated, but if you only do it for your girlfriend it's seen as you want to make an impression that's not really you. As a rule of thumb Norwegians are generally more reserved to strangers, including those you date for the first time. Therefore you're doing and saying less to avoid being considered pushy. That might be seen as indifference by a foreigner, but's more the typical Norwegian shyness. If you want to learn how a Norwegian is then you need to see him / her in an environment where he / she is comfortable like among family and friends. Then the shyness isn't there. My impression is that foreigners who find a Norwegian partner eventually become happy once they have truly learnt to know the Norwegian. Norwegians are less materialistic, less focused on status, won't show off their success and are in general down to earth. So you know what you get. E. g. I see much less monkey branching with Norwegian women than in e. g. USA. When a Norwegian woman decides to leave you then you've messed up over time and not taken numerous hints. She won't replace you just because she met a man with more income or status as long as you're a good man for her and your kids.
The number of divorces in Norway shows a drop from 11k divorces in 2005 to 8.2k divorces in 2022. In 2005 the divorce rate was almost 50%. However, in 2022 the divorce rate had dropped to 37%. The absolute number of marriages was 22.4k in 2005 and 20.8k marriages in 2022. So we can definitely say the divorce rate is dropping in Norway, but so is the number of marriages. Since more people don't get married one could think that those who do are more certain they found their life long partner. Thus the divorce rate is dropping too. Anyway, the divorce rate is significant in Norway. However, it's not as high as some other western countries. I think the reason is that's common in Norway to live together as a family without getting married. The cohabitation rights in Norway is almost as strong as marriage rights. So many Norwegians don't feel the need to get married. In USA weddings are very important and people have really expensive wedding ceremonies. In Norway it's more common to have a simple wedding at the courthouse and not huge church weddings with hundreds of guests. Probably because Norway is a less religious country than USA. In Norway only 12% of the population visit the church more often than monthly. So Norwegians don't feel the same need as Americans to get married. Most feel almost the same security just being cohabitants since both are working and assets are often divided according to a cohabitation contract. You have some higher security as married if you earn less than your partner. However, SAHM's aren't common in Norway. Children will usually stay 50% with each parent and you won't get alimony in case of divorce since both are working. You need to be separated for 1 year before you can apply for divorce.
As a Norwegian who's dated people from other cultures, our lack of dating has never been an issue and isn't really a thing here. If we go on a "date" we literally call it that after how Americans call it cause it doesn't originate from here as a concept, its more just hanging out or alike, ideally in groups as we feel safer within our "bubbles" and it very often includes drinking. Personally, I also hate if anyone pays for me unless in an established relationship where I know it won't impact them any, being an inconvenience to others is typically something Norwegians don't want to be and its considered rude to expect others to pay for you without personally establishing that's expected in advance. The common is each pay for themselves, and no equal split of the bill, you pay for what you got. I personally didn't go on many dates as I am not too fond of the idea of flirting and hooking up without knowing anyone. Norwegian women tend to be very assertive vs most cultures I know of and its kind of a tradition where I live that women are the ones to order around a household, as they're associated with being able to handle a lot of things at once. Its normal for both partners in a relationship to work as we have decently cheap childcare offered from when kids are very young, so its not much difficulty in regards to that. I'm not in this kinda relationship myself, but majority of the households I know the woman is the boss of the house, I prefer a more passive role myself more similar to what we assume is the American household standard. lol I was lucky enough to find a hubby that preferred things the same as I did, but he was not Norwegian. Most of all, I think a lot of Norwegian culture is just built around; don't assume you have a relationship before its confirmed verbally, don't be an inconvenience, and take care of each other and try relax. I grew up a hermit kinda tho, so don't take my comment too seriously. xD
I don´t understand "dating".. the chance of finding some stranger, that is a good match..hmm? I like to observe the person, before I spend any alone time with them. What is their behavior, are they kind, funny, social or not social.. you can learn a lot, just watching people. My relationships have always been, a friends friend. Then you also have the possibility to ask, "is he ok?", before you act on it. If the guy beat up his last 3 girlfriends, you have a chance to avoid him. If you like to have a beer in bars, be friends with the bartenders, they will tell you who to avoid ;-)
I have been together with my partner for almost 6 years now, and i can count on one hand the amount of times we have done what you think of as a "traditional date". Im Norwegian and he's not, so he has had to get used to "doing things" - not just sitting, eating n talking. I almost dont consider that a date, cause we do it at home all the time. While doing stuff together is what i view as a "proper date" that make new memories and experiences together, aka art, museums, trips, petting zoos, festivals, concerts, shows, hikes and so on.
As a Norwegian ,I agree 100%.But the meat market is real all over the world.In America women are more into social status/money brcause they rely more on a man.Here in Norway a lot of women can afford to buy a house and live on their own.But the young people are more conservative now, so birthrates and marriages might go up.
I got to know my current boyfriend through a game weirdly enough while I was dating my ex of 6 years. Me and my current boyfriend got to know each other and became best friends. He was also there for me when me and my ex broke up. A few months after that I realized I had feelings for my current boyfriend, and he felt the same way in return. So now we have had a long distance relationship for a year now and have talked about him moving here to where I live in the future
I live in Europe, and the dating culture as it exists in the US is frowned upon. Over here, you first get to know eachother and only when there seems to be some mutual attraction you ask the other on a date. And it is quite ok for the girl to ask the boy on a date. Since both parties can agree to pay for their own meals or drinks, there is no pressure on continuation in the bedroom. The view on American dating, is that of carnal reward in exchange for an expensive meal.
Det er også en del av av staten gir (for) mye ytelser gjennom NAV, bostøtte; sosialstøtte, overgangsstønad osv. I Norge er det lettere og skille seg fordi de økonomiske byrdene ikke blir den samme pga alle stønadene vi kan få (for mange generelt) Dessuten begynner vi og se skadene av og vokse opp i hjem med dine barn, mine barn og våres baren - så kanskje folk vil begynne og jobbe med forholdet sitt istedenfor og skille seg så lett som folk gjorde en periode. Det er også veldig vanlig og forbli samboere uten og gifte seg
100% that you get into eachothers bubbles and then you kinda start something similar to dating. Been in many relationships and never gone on anything that would be called a date in the US. 35 with 2 kids. My sister is married to a guy from LA and this was how they got together aswell. A very norwgian thing to do, and alot of this in other nordic countries aswell. I am with a swede that i met through work, 10 years and counting.
As of 2024, the divorce rates in the United States and Norway differ notably. In the U.S., the crude divorce rate stands at 2.3 divorces per 1,000 people.  In contrast, Norway’s rate is lower, at 1.5 divorces per 1,000 people.  These figures indicate that, proportionally, divorces are more common in the United States than in Norway. Various factors contribute to this disparity, including cultural differences, societal norms, and legal frameworks surrounding marriage and divorce in each country.
Come to think of it, I've never "gone after" girls, but have always been approached by the women. I'm single now, and don't really want a partner. I think the divorce completely ruined my belief in permanent partnership/marriage.
Dear Tyler, this is not reality.. We are woman and equal to men in our country. If we are serious and we want a companion for life we don't go out to party on the town. Some of us use dating apps some get to know tru working place and some blind dates because of friends who think it's time for you to find someone😂 Some of us is serious and like to really get to know before "dating".. both men and women. Love from Norway❤
Indeed, when dividing the crude divorce rate by the crude marriage rate for the US, EU, and Norway, the results are nearly equal (46.4%, 45.5%, and 44.2%, …
If someone talked to me at the gym (in a way where I thought they were interested) I would freak the f*** out and run. Same if it happened in the street, at the grocery store or pretty much anywhere else. As a Norwegian, I usually "date" my friends. With that, I mean that I do stuff with people over time, and sometimes that leads to me developing feelings. I've never been on an actual date in my life.
Most the dates Ive had in uk is Cinema guy paid then go to a cafe have a coffee and then say good night. I've never hooked up or slept with a man on a first or second date. I dont do hook up's at all not for me
Best to not try at all. The courts are ready to prove you're guilty before innocent, and don't feel guilty for not trying. Women don't need anyone or anything here.
Before atarting the video. As a Norwegian male at the age of 52. I do not ndo dates. It's pathetic. Maybe a walk in the forest or something. And if I did, why the hell should I pay for the food another person orders?? :)
According to Worldpopulationreview, divorce rate by countries for 2024, USA ranks 14th highest in the world, while Norway is at 57th place - out of 125 countries. I don't know where the person is from that commented on the divorce rates, but it seems many countries have a way higher divorce rate. (they measured the last three years).
Sex is often before relationship, no point in pursuing a relationship if sex does not work. Yeah women are more aggressive here compared to Europe and usa (I worked and lived in uk and USA and Canada, Brazil, Mexico etc etc … In Brazil it was more like Norway 😂 in that women go for what they want
Honestly, the thought of meeting a stranger and just... Going for coffee with them to sit and talk to each other? That sounds REALLY creepy 😂Call the police, this person I have never met before wants to sit down and... Get to know me randomly. 😂How utterly awkward haha.
It comes as a surprise to foreign women that to rizz a norwegian man, you have to initiate contact and show interest.... and then they are often shy about it.. :P
Gender roles still exist, but they are no longer as clearly defined as they were 20-30 years ago. And this also does create issues, when there will be different expectations of the partner.
If i want to arrange a special thing. We dont use the word date in Denmark... Im planning to pay for it all.. i did that at 20 back in the day... But if we both talk about hitting this new restaurant we would pay seperate here. But some girls gets angry if you do the let me pay for it thing. I bought a rose for a girlfriend i had back in 1986. She came to see me from the other side of Denmark. A 5 hour train ride basically.. and this other girl i knew went apeshit over the rose... What a stupid thing, i would ho crazy of some guy hot me a Rose amd so on... Dont know what her whole breakdown was about bit i didn't care o was just so into this girl that was a bit older than me and very cool compared to the local girls. According to my friends she looked like Kim Wilde around Cambodia time.. Didnt think about that myself but whatever,she was cool and a great girl to meet at the right time.. everything made sense. 😊
Norwegian here, I find using Oslo as an example for anything Norwegian is idiotic, Oslo is a very big and busy city (for Norway) with a lot of mixed cultures. It's not a great representative of how we all do things in Norway, especially dating culture. And to use a tourist's experience to learn about our culture is a bit weird. I see new couples all around me all the time where I live, majority do not find their new partner over the phone, they meet them at work or at school for example. To say gender roles don't exist is flawed, yes it's not so extreme like the US but Norway isn't perfect, women still have expectations set upon them, same with men to some degree. And wome do all the chasing? what? This is also so weird to say. I find that redditor honestly insulting, they do not love Norway or Norwegian people by the way they speak, they barely understand us at all.
The person that invites pay. Wich is usually a man, But sometimes women invites. Then she pays. If there are 2 single people and having similar income. Why should I pay ?
Even the government complaint that we norwegian men don't have enough sex. That should say little bit how our situation are in Norway. But don't complain at us. Complain on the women. It's their fault. We ain't asking them anymore because they had becoming with alot of different saying in puplic towards men who are just innocently asking them, or looking at them. I had few of them my self. Just looking at a women on the other side on the street. Didn't touch her, asked her or anything. She started too scream at me. Just because i had few extra seconds look at her. We ain't doing that anymore. Now the women who are going toward the men, and trust me. Last years i have been hooked up by several younger women, but i'm saying no. I'm done (also real reason is that they are half of my age). I'm looking very young so they think i'm at their age (16-20 years), when i'm actually 33 years old. Nobody belives me when i'm telling the age. But minimum 25 years for me. Altough that's a problem for me when i'm looking for "older women", they ain't interested in me because i'm looking so young. Too add up we had metoo and like similar events like i mention. That was alot of focus in media for long period of time and we stopped flirting. The women are getting shocked today if the men are flirting with them.
My Anerican friends have mostly met in churtch or in sport. An normal healthy way to meat people. Most of them will ask the girls parents to take their girl out. I like that. In Norway most people will neat in a club and somewhere wgere most people are drunk. Therr is nothing romantic in meating someone in a bar or club where everyone are drunk. I hate the smell of beer abd wil bever kiss a drunk man. Luckely my husbans diesen't drink. He had to make a choice when he met me. To kiss me or to drink. And I'm so thankful to him. We loved to go for walks and havw dinner together after work. He love abimakes just as much as me. I had a dog and we met wgen I was on my way home after a hike with my dog. The dog wanted to say hello to him and I asked him to walk with ys. He said yes and took my hand. This was back in 1995.
Men not paying for dates, depends on the person.. Maybe the young generation don't.. Don't know.. I would always do it atleast (40ish male). Divorce rates are quite high, and funny thing is. 70% of them are the woman that are initiating, because they want more and more and more. Woman do the chasing, because woman are acting like every man is a predator, so males are afraid of doing it, to be set up as a predator online for taking initiative, so males stop doing it. Romance is dead, also something that has to do with younger generations.
The divorce prosent in Norway is 85%. Norwegians only focus on work and workout. Many many Norwegians go to the gym before work, then after work, then again after dinner, and then again in the evening. They go to the gym 3 to 4 times a day every day.
Norwegian woman here, nope, I do not want a man to pay for me, it makes me feel uncomfortable. It feels transactional. Not saying there's any bad intentions or anything, I just think there are way better ways to demonstrate your worth besides throwing money at it. Show kindness, show interest, show who you are. If you are genuine, you will be appreciated.
I also agree with the person who wrote that getting to know someone by just talking is less of a thing here, that getting to know people through shared activity is a way more preferred method (not into the whole hookup culture thing, but generally the social connections I have that have lasted have come through shared activity, not by just talking). I think maybe because we tend to hate smalltalk, and it takes time to get past that with a new acquaintance, but you can sort of bypass that awkward smalltalk phase by naturally getting to know them through shared activity. You don't have to force a conversation, it can instead evolve naturally, and lulls in the conversation feels less awkward because you have other things you can focus on (in my case I attend a boardgaming club, and we can always just turn to the game itself if conversation doesn't flow).
Nordic here, yeah I would feel uncomfortable and like I am in debt to someone if they pay for my food (unless they are family). I think Chivalry looks very different in different cultures. Here I would say Chivlary is to make sure your date comes home safe, because it shows that you care about them. Whether that be to follow them home, or text them.
It's a sly way of wanting him to be traditional when it suits her. You've never worked hard to ensure the man gets home safely, have you?
@@Vixtuoso I almost always check up on those I care about if we go home separate ways, regardless of gender or age. I send a text asking them if they got home safe, just to check on them. (edit: and luckily, i havent needed to do more than that because they get home safe)
Making a lot of assumptions here. :)
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He comes off as one of those inane culture warrior types, tbh, building that massive strawman to attack :)
@@Vixtuoso What projection! Norway is famed for equality. Of course that would go both ways, but if the man is being chivalrous, this is how he might do it. A woman might show her interest and care in the same way, depending on the situation. But also through other means. Judgemental much?
@@MessyMeep Not enough, and way too late.
Just to point one thing out, this is a foreigners view of our dating culture.
Something that enables them to have an objective perspective. Regardless, many people in this country agree with him. When an overwhelming number of young men cheered for Trump.. I think that says something.
Although that shouldn't be dismissed. Yes, if you're more engrained in our culture, you'd likely be more accepted also on the dating arena, but foreigners come with important perspectives that we don't have
@@Vixtuoso it's a "her" not a him, and if by "this country" you mean Norway the Trump thing was a misleading poll. A more recent poll showed about 25% of young men who like Trump, and it's by far the largest percentage in any demographic. 75% of the population view him as having a negative effect on the world
Also some one claiming to have come from the UK and Spain to Norway and claiming that Norwegian divorce rates are soaring when in reality both the UK (1.7/100k) and Spain (1.8/100k) have higher divorce rates than Norway (1.5/100k).
@@VixtuosoDepends. You judge from your own perspective and as foreigners which would be heavily culturally biased, as well the values, social norms etc. that they have in their country and culture. Most countries aren’t as liberal and open minded as ours, and in general the whole of the Nordics, but heavily loaded with religious dogmas and brainwash as well as patriarchy. In most foreigners eyes and this is also what they are served and told rooted in political propaganda, that we are basically whores because we sleep around and have a very liberal view when it comes to nudity and sex in general. And if you go on any dating behind borders videos especially with Icelanders, and Norwegians in them, comments like “incest” and “sluts” seem to reign supreme. But we have been like this since the Viking Age🤣🤣🤣
Dating in Norway is really not the same as in USA or many other cultures. We like to get to know the other person before we even consider calling anything a date.
Even then, we mostly don't "date". We do stuff together. Going for hikes, watching movies, playing games, going on Road-trips, partying and so on. We might even go out to eat together, but very rarely is it considered a date.
We mostly start calling it dates after we officially get into a relationship. Then we will have datenights just to enjoy each other's company.
In regards to chivalry, it is most assuredly alive and well in Norway. The problem is that many Norwegians ah e a very practical view of it, as opposed to a romantic one.
Like giving your significant other flowers and chocolate; we do this and the other person will be momentarily happy and pleased, which is good. That's the romance. Then comes the practicality: "damn, where did you buy these flowers? They're dying already and it's only been three days. I love the gesture, but next time, try to think of something that will last longer."
In regards to paying and opening doors and such, many people love when others do this. I love to do it, and I love it when someone does it for me. But, as mentioned in the video, to Norwegians, equality is extremely important, which is why sometimes if you as a man propose to pay for dinner, s/he will straight up refuse. "we each pay our part or we can both do the dishes in the kitchen".
Many people, be they male or female may even take offense at the suggestion of someone else paying for them or opening the door and such.
I am a Norwegian myself, 39 years as of a couple of months ago. I think Norwegians are some of the strangest and weirdest people on this planet. And I love it 😁
I'm 28, have been in three relationships and I've never been on a "date", so there is definitely something to what you're saying
This!
As a Norwegian, I can attest to everything you just said. I've never been on a date outside of an established relationship in my 36 years of life.
Thanks for the support, guys.
A clarification though: I don't mean that people never date before they enter a relationship, just that, if you look at the big picture, it's a minority. That said, going on "dates" before entering a relationship is a rising trend in Norway, especially for women.
"I met this guy on tinder/whatever app/website and we're going on a date on Friday."
But is it a date? Or is it a coffee and a meal and getting to know the other person? In my mind, a "date" always has romantic connotations, while just hanging with someone does not, though romance can be the outcome.
Jeez, I got way too far into this now. Sorry for my rambling :-s
@@Maltanoro "Going on a date" and "dating" are two different things imo. You can do one without the other. Most Norwegians will indeed consider themselves to be "dating" someone before they're in an actual relationship with them, but they don't necessarily go on dates with said person. They just do activities together, go out to a coffee shop, watch a movie, cuddle at home, hook up, go on hikes, hook up again, go out drinking, hook up some more... What is considered "hooking up" in other cultures is considered "dating" in Norway 😂
Again, this is only ONE persons perspective, and they are also probably a foreigner, which says a lot. She likely only has experience with Oslo or something, when Norway is so much more than just that. Also she seems so bothered by the fact that she as a woman has to take the first step. Well, Nordic men in general are much more reserved, and honestly much more respectful towards women, compared to most other cultures. Isn’t that a good thing? People like her will act offended when the ‘’wrong’’ men give them attention, but when they don’t come flocking towards her she’s suddenly bothered by that too. LOL!😂😂😂
And also, they've been in Norway for under a year. There's a limited amount of culture you can see in 1 year. If you've lived somewhere for a year and feel that you're assimilated, you're probably wrong.
@@Henoik Very true.
Generally, in Europe it's expected that people contribute equally into a relationship. How exactly that gets done is different.
I think it makes sense that this is expected in countries that have paid maternal leave, cheap free healthcare, cheap child care services and laws that enables women to retain their jobs after giving birth.
In countries that don’t have this, women’s financial situation is a lot more precarious and reliant on the husband.
@@Absinthminded Sounds like they're dating in order to literally put food on the table
@@magnusalexander2965 All relationships are transitional in some ways but Americans seem to be totally clueless over the fact that there are different types of relationship dynamics.
If you, in Norway, are looking for a partner, you'll most likely meet them through friends or activities.
And this video is full of so much misinformation, I don't even know where to start.
Just start _somewhere_ if it so much to debate.
I would take most of these points with a grain of salt.
Men more often than not pay for the date, gender roles exist, women aren't always on the prowl hunting for guys.
He definitely went to the wrong place and has a narrow view, seeing as he just went to a few clubs, talked to a few drunk girls and probably saw 2 people using a dating app 😅
I remember meeting my man at an amatour movie set. we randomly started to talk and found out we shared interests in gaming and cooking. we gradually started to spend more time with each other. before i knew it, we were together. we never had an official date before this point. but have had many after
It's always been said that you don't find your potential wife at discos or pubs. Before I met my partner in life, I had two relationships before, and they didn't stay by my side because we were just out of sync. And I met both of them at the Disco where a friend knew a friend and they knew each other from before. And after the first evening we exchanged telephone numbers, also after a couple of days I made contact and invited to dinner out. Then we got to know each other much better, and that helped, but unfortunately not enough. I was with one for two years, and the other for four months. Then one day I randomly met a friend who was going to drive his neighbor to the train, and the neighbor became my roommate, but that only happened a year after I first met her. When we had greeted each other, I saw her again at a garden party at my friend's, then I met her again at a birthday party at my friend's, we also met again when I was on a walk in the forest. When she went alone, and I went alone, I suggested that we could go together, and that was the beginning of a wonderful cohabitation. Today we have two adult sons, and are simply fine together.
The comment about doing vs talking is absolutely right. Remember that Norwegians are like cats. We don't like having to sit down and just talk. Talking is fine, but only really when it's part of doing something active, and it won't have immediate results. And often, getting us to even start opening up, you need either a common interest, a common connection, or a social lubricant such as drinks.
For a Norwegian, sitting down and talking to another that you don't know is usually something you do if you have an issue with them. So you can probably imagine how that would translate as a dating tactic.
And much like cats, we are hard to bond with, but once you have a bond, it's strong.
The motivation behind actions count alot in my mind, regardless of the situation.
Getting to know somebody shouldn't require jumping through hoops for either sex
Personally I would prefer to have a hiking trip or another activity than anything "club or dinner in a restaurant" related-
Clear communication and expectation management is a benefit to both sides.
As a male I could pay, but wouldn't apreciate being forced to do so ;-)
The "men pay and women give it up" transaction is WEIRD!
The most common places we norwegians find our long-term partners are either through friends and social shperes expanding, through work, or through school. In other words, we find people in settings where we are naturally spending time together, and getting to know eachother slowly over time. For then later potentially going on a coffee or dinner date after knowing them as people--to see if there is chemistry.
So after having went on said date, it's not uncommon to just declare a partnership then and there, since you already know eachother and felt the chemistry. (The aftermath of these coffee or dinner dates does not always, but not rarely either, end up with intimacy and the like at oneanother's place.)
So yeah, it's a very different way of approaching dating, because the "dating phases" are not usually somerthing you can define here, but rather just assimilation over time, and then later when you are both single and daring, testing the waters.
I am a norwegian woman. Wouldnt want a guy to pay for anything for me. If I am interested in a man, I will make contact. Dont qant to be chased in any form, I will let the person know I am interested if he is not in return, thats that.
I can't imagine divorce rates rising in Normay or the rest of Europe with so few people bothering to get married.
Its the same in the US less divorces because no men want to get married to begin with.
While divorce rates may not be soaring anymore in Norway, that seems to be because people don't marry each other as much anymore.
Which arguably is good. It's an outdated concept in many ways.
Especially the way it _used_ to be done with almost no possibility for an exit if need be due to social stigma, illegality, etc.
Letting people exit toxic relationships easily is a good thing.
@DocProctor I agree. Marriage comes with no benefits other than taxation benefits
gender roles actually are existent. however we don't really advertise it as much. thing is both roles are important if you want a mentally and physically healthy child to grow up, once you get to that point i mean.
the whole women are more " aggressive " part, norwegian men don't really do their part unless they're 50% alcohol and 50% human. if it was not for the alcohol we'd be extinct.
I agree, we do pay for us self, when you are a long time couple sometimes i pay & sometimes he pay. If you just go on a date, and a man pay for you, its like you own him something,or feel you use the man, so nope. I would also feel stupid if i got a man i was on a date with to pay for me. Not for most Nordic people. We like equality so its just natural for us and pay for ourselves
When I lived in the UK I'd always describe Norwegian dating as "We'd go to the clubs in packs of girls and boys. Then we'd find someone to hook up with at the end of the night and if we enjoyed the experience and the person we'd swap numbers in the morning. If not, no harm no foul we both had fun." This is in part why Norwegians find the whole dating experience so weird and Americans very puritanical ;)
I guess some of that "Conquer through doing" Viking mentality still lives in us ;)
It’s true you hook up for a while, than you start dating if you like them more than just sex.
I'm a Norwegian man. I was 18 in 1989, and that's when I started to meet girls (except for a few during school earlier). But growing up back then without any apps, it was never dating in the American sense: like meeting a girl, asking her out on dates, and then maybe having sex on the third date. It was always getting drunk at a bar and then hooking up with drunk girls, and if you still liked each other the next day, that could be the start of a relationship.
I feel like point 3 is dependent on where you live in Norway, because where I grew up. It's the opposite. The men go chasing and the women just want to tease and play hard to get to the point the men will just stop chasing and just enjoy the night out instead with the other guys. I've never heard about or seen women just walking over to some guys and touching their face unless they know those guys really well, even then I've never seen it.
Marriage is far less common in Norway compared to other cultures and countries as well. Most of the friend couples I have aren't married, and they've been together for 10+ years. It's just not something we all see as necessary.
When it comes to who pays for the food, it's most common that we pay for our own food, and then maybe the guy or even the girl offer to pay for it, and even then we might decline the offer and still pay for our own food. It's just how we are, we like to "carry our weight" so to speak. There's also no gender role where the man has to provide for the woman and have the highest salary. I guess we're just more about being equal and both provide to the relationship and both do their best to make sure it's working and healthy.
Okey I got prove 😅 I am outdated I don't go out pubs and party places. Because I have never seen ladies behave like that when they are out and party. And the ladies I know don't act like that.
Norwegian woman here. I must say I actually hugely appreciate chivalry and being paid for a little bit - perhaps not ALL the time. I do not take it for granted, demand it nor expect it, and I don't feel entitled. Nor does it feel right to never pay for anything. There is nuance! While being asked to split the bill 50-50 makes my ovaries wilt, it only feels good to receive from someone when I'm assured that the they can afford it and would love to pay, or give whatever genuinely feels good for them to give. Then I can really deeply appreciate it. It's not about rules or entitlement so much as what genuinely feels good to give and receive. I don't really date, though. My opinion/preference is based on a few different relationship experiences.
I met my wife online on a chat site. We have been married 20 years.
Online dating was serious back then. Now it's for hookups
Thenone where you seem confused about towards the end, you missed the 'is doing'. Hooking up is doing. Dating is talking.
37.1% was the divorce rate in Norway in 2022. I think it is difficult to be 41 years old and single. The older you are, the more difficult it is to date. Dating is not easy in Norway. Missing men who go the extra mile and take the initiative. It is almost completely gone.
For decades, men have been told that they must stand at the back of the queue, and let women into all areas of society, although women already dominate in many areas. They have grown tired of the loud women's constant belittling of them as men. Metoo did more harm than good to women because it caused men to pull away from women to protect themselves from unfair accusations of sexual assault. If men try to tell how they feel in society, they are told that they are weird incels and have themselves to blame. Therefore, they socialize with each other, and many have decided that they can manage without women in their lives - or at least until things change. Nor do they have the same ticking biological clock. If women want change, they must go within themselves and collectively show men that they want them back in their lives as equal partners. This I write as a mother and aunt of young men.
Why the hell would anyone get remarried after a divorce
Norwegians rarely, if ever, invite outsiders to their tight-knit groups. Being social, and often even civil, is an alien concept. The statistics of people in Oslo that feel lonely is very sad reading. I have lived in Oslo for years and have many friends, but no norwegians.
I think most Norwegians find their partners at work, via friends or via common interests after work. So it's definitely true that friendships can evolve into relationships. One reason could be that Norwegians feel more comfortable asking a friend out for a date than a complete stranger. Dating apps aren't as popular here and most who try them have negative experiences. E. g, men on dating apps rarely get any hits.
It's not my impression that women are throwing themselves after men to get a relationship. What was described was probably single middle aged women going to a club to get hooked up. You don't find your life partner there.
When you date a woman you don't want to be too pushy as a man. So it's normal for the first date that both pay for themselves. You can offend the woman if you offer to pay for her. It's like you're pushing her to feel some kind of obligation to you to return the favor in a future date. You don't know if the first date would lead to more dates. Once you have established a connection it's not uncommon that the person inviting the other out for dinner will pay. Women can also initiate the invitation.
Chivalry is not dead in Norway, but men are often a bit scared to do too much early on in the relationship because it can be considered that you do it because you have an agenda. Men like to be chivalrous to their girlfriend, but that's after they have become a couple. My impression is that most Norwegian women appreciate the chivalry if it's natural and not done to score points or show off. E. g. if you're holding the door for everybody then that's appreciated, but if you only do it for your girlfriend it's seen as you want to make an impression that's not really you.
As a rule of thumb Norwegians are generally more reserved to strangers, including those you date for the first time. Therefore you're doing and saying less to avoid being considered pushy. That might be seen as indifference by a foreigner, but's more the typical Norwegian shyness. If you want to learn how a Norwegian is then you need to see him / her in an environment where he / she is comfortable like among family and friends. Then the shyness isn't there.
My impression is that foreigners who find a Norwegian partner eventually become happy once they have truly learnt to know the Norwegian. Norwegians are less materialistic, less focused on status, won't show off their success and are in general down to earth. So you know what you get. E. g. I see much less monkey branching with Norwegian women than in e. g. USA. When a Norwegian woman decides to leave you then you've messed up over time and not taken numerous hints. She won't replace you just because she met a man with more income or status as long as you're a good man for her and your kids.
The number of divorces in Norway shows a drop from 11k divorces in 2005 to 8.2k divorces in 2022. In 2005 the divorce rate was almost 50%. However, in 2022 the divorce rate had dropped to 37%.
The absolute number of marriages was 22.4k in 2005 and 20.8k marriages in 2022.
So we can definitely say the divorce rate is dropping in Norway, but so is the number of marriages. Since more people don't get married one could think that those who do are more certain they found their life long partner. Thus the divorce rate is dropping too.
Anyway, the divorce rate is significant in Norway. However, it's not as high as some other western countries. I think the reason is that's common in Norway to live together as a family without getting married. The cohabitation rights in Norway is almost as strong as marriage rights. So many Norwegians don't feel the need to get married.
In USA weddings are very important and people have really expensive wedding ceremonies. In Norway it's more common to have a simple wedding at the courthouse and not huge church weddings with hundreds of guests. Probably because Norway is a less religious country than USA. In Norway only 12% of the population visit the church more often than monthly. So Norwegians don't feel the same need as Americans to get married. Most feel almost the same security just being cohabitants since both are working and assets are often divided according to a cohabitation contract. You have some higher security as married if you earn less than your partner. However, SAHM's aren't common in Norway. Children will usually stay 50% with each parent and you won't get alimony in case of divorce since both are working.
You need to be separated for 1 year before you can apply for divorce.
As a Norwegian who's dated people from other cultures, our lack of dating has never been an issue and isn't really a thing here. If we go on a "date" we literally call it that after how Americans call it cause it doesn't originate from here as a concept, its more just hanging out or alike, ideally in groups as we feel safer within our "bubbles" and it very often includes drinking. Personally, I also hate if anyone pays for me unless in an established relationship where I know it won't impact them any, being an inconvenience to others is typically something Norwegians don't want to be and its considered rude to expect others to pay for you without personally establishing that's expected in advance. The common is each pay for themselves, and no equal split of the bill, you pay for what you got. I personally didn't go on many dates as I am not too fond of the idea of flirting and hooking up without knowing anyone.
Norwegian women tend to be very assertive vs most cultures I know of and its kind of a tradition where I live that women are the ones to order around a household, as they're associated with being able to handle a lot of things at once. Its normal for both partners in a relationship to work as we have decently cheap childcare offered from when kids are very young, so its not much difficulty in regards to that. I'm not in this kinda relationship myself, but majority of the households I know the woman is the boss of the house, I prefer a more passive role myself more similar to what we assume is the American household standard. lol I was lucky enough to find a hubby that preferred things the same as I did, but he was not Norwegian.
Most of all, I think a lot of Norwegian culture is just built around; don't assume you have a relationship before its confirmed verbally, don't be an inconvenience, and take care of each other and try relax.
I grew up a hermit kinda tho, so don't take my comment too seriously. xD
A foreigner will have a very dlfferent experience in dating than citizens, many of these things are just not accurate at all
I don´t understand "dating".. the chance of finding some stranger, that is a good match..hmm? I like to observe the person, before I spend any alone time with them. What is their behavior, are they kind, funny, social or not social.. you can learn a lot, just watching people. My relationships have always been, a friends friend. Then you also have the possibility to ask, "is he ok?", before you act on it. If the guy beat up his last 3 girlfriends, you have a chance to avoid him. If you like to have a beer in bars, be friends with the bartenders, they will tell you who to avoid ;-)
I have been together with my partner for almost 6 years now, and i can count on one hand the amount of times we have done what you think of as a "traditional date". Im Norwegian and he's not, so he has had to get used to "doing things" - not just sitting, eating n talking. I almost dont consider that a date, cause we do it at home all the time. While doing stuff together is what i view as a "proper date" that make new memories and experiences together, aka art, museums, trips, petting zoos, festivals, concerts, shows, hikes and so on.
As a Norwegian ,I agree 100%.But the meat market is real all over the world.In America women are more into social status/money brcause they rely more on a man.Here in Norway a lot of women can afford to buy a house and live on their own.But the young people are more conservative now, so birthrates and marriages might go up.
I got to know my current boyfriend through a game weirdly enough while I was dating my ex of 6 years. Me and my current boyfriend got to know each other and became best friends. He was also there for me when me and my ex broke up. A few months after that I realized I had feelings for my current boyfriend, and he felt the same way in return. So now we have had a long distance relationship for a year now and have talked about him moving here to where I live in the future
hm, this is not thath right, maby you shold talk to a Norwegian. Norge her
There is also obviously a difference in dating culture between religious and non-religious Norwegians.
I live in Europe, and the dating culture as it exists in the US is frowned upon. Over here, you first get to know eachother and only when there seems to be some mutual attraction you ask the other on a date. And it is quite ok for the girl to ask the boy on a date. Since both parties can agree to pay for their own meals or drinks, there is no pressure on continuation in the bedroom. The view on American dating, is that of carnal reward in exchange for an expensive meal.
Det var 8 204 skilsmisser i Norge i 2022. Om de nyeste skilsmisseratene står seg, vil 37,1 prosent av alle ekteskap inngått nå ende i skilsmisse.
Det er også en del av av staten gir (for) mye ytelser gjennom NAV, bostøtte; sosialstøtte, overgangsstønad osv. I Norge er det lettere og skille seg fordi de økonomiske byrdene ikke blir den samme pga alle stønadene vi kan få (for mange generelt) Dessuten begynner vi og se skadene av og vokse opp i hjem med dine barn, mine barn og våres baren - så kanskje folk vil begynne og jobbe med forholdet sitt istedenfor og skille seg så lett som folk gjorde en periode. Det er også veldig vanlig og forbli samboere uten og gifte seg
Tyler, you should invite a norwegian on a video (psst, I'm here) so you can ask questions!!
i also volunteer!!
In Norway the divorce rate is 37.1%
The divorce rate in norway is actually ~0.8%, down from ~1% in 2020.
100% that you get into eachothers bubbles and then you kinda start something similar to dating. Been in many relationships and never gone on anything that would be called a date in the US. 35 with 2 kids.
My sister is married to a guy from LA and this was how they got together aswell. A very norwgian thing to do, and alot of this in other nordic countries aswell. I am with a swede that i met through work, 10 years and counting.
As of 2024, the divorce rates in the United States and Norway differ notably. In the U.S., the crude divorce rate stands at 2.3 divorces per 1,000 people.  In contrast, Norway’s rate is lower, at 1.5 divorces per 1,000 people. 
These figures indicate that, proportionally, divorces are more common in the United States than in Norway. Various factors contribute to this disparity, including cultural differences, societal norms, and legal frameworks surrounding marriage and divorce in each country.
Come to think of it, I've never "gone after" girls, but have always been approached by the women. I'm single now, and don't really want a partner. I think the divorce completely ruined my belief in permanent partnership/marriage.
Dear Tyler, this is not reality.. We are woman and equal to men in our country. If we are serious and we want a companion for life we don't go out to party on the town. Some of us use dating apps some get to know tru working place and some blind dates because of friends who think it's time for you to find someone😂 Some of us is serious and like to really get to know before "dating".. both men and women. Love from Norway❤
Indeed, when dividing the crude divorce rate by the crude marriage rate for the US, EU, and Norway, the results are nearly equal (46.4%, 45.5%, and 44.2%, …
Yes as a Norwegian I think this is right and it’s sad I miss the romance and chivalry
If someone talked to me at the gym (in a way where I thought they were interested) I would freak the f*** out and run.
Same if it happened in the street, at the grocery store or pretty much anywhere else.
As a Norwegian, I usually "date" my friends. With that, I mean that I do stuff with people over time, and sometimes that leads to me developing feelings. I've never been on an actual date in my life.
Most the dates Ive had in uk is Cinema guy paid then go to a cafe have a coffee and then say good night. I've never hooked up or slept with a man on a first or second date. I dont do hook up's at all not for me
I’ve never had any interest in dating men but, if I did, I’m perfectly able to pay my way and wouldn’t want someone I barely know paying for my meal.
Best to not try at all. The courts are ready to prove you're guilty before innocent, and don't feel guilty for not trying. Women don't need anyone or anything here.
Before atarting the video. As a Norwegian male at the age of 52. I do not ndo dates. It's pathetic. Maybe a walk in the forest or something. And if I did, why the hell should I pay for the food another person orders?? :)
According to Worldpopulationreview, divorce rate by countries for 2024, USA ranks 14th highest in the world, while Norway is at 57th place - out of 125 countries. I don't know where the person is from that commented on the divorce rates, but it seems many countries have a way higher divorce rate. (they measured the last three years).
Ahh I am talking about if you meet someone at a bar or friends party etc
but both my brother and daughter have both got married off a dating site I'm in uk. I don't do dating sites at all
Sex is often before relationship, no point in pursuing a relationship if sex does not work.
Yeah women are more aggressive here compared to Europe and usa (I worked and lived in uk and USA and Canada, Brazil, Mexico etc etc …
In Brazil it was more like Norway 😂 in that women go for what they want
Honestly, the thought of meeting a stranger and just... Going for coffee with them to sit and talk to each other? That sounds REALLY creepy 😂Call the police, this person I have never met before wants to sit down and... Get to know me randomly. 😂How utterly awkward haha.
I met my wife standing in line at the Post office...
This video is going to be helpful even for me. (I have a problem with dating)
It comes as a surprise to foreign women that to rizz a norwegian man, you have to initiate contact and show interest.... and then they are often shy about it.. :P
I didn’t even know
Gender roles still exist, but they are no longer as clearly defined as they were 20-30 years ago. And this also does create issues, when there will be different expectations of the partner.
Dating is considered culture now?
If i want to arrange a special thing. We dont use the word date in Denmark... Im planning to pay for it all.. i did that at 20 back in the day... But if we both talk about hitting this new restaurant we would pay seperate here. But some girls gets angry if you do the let me pay for it thing. I bought a rose for a girlfriend i had back in 1986. She came to see me from the other side of Denmark. A 5 hour train ride basically.. and this other girl i knew went apeshit over the rose... What a stupid thing, i would ho crazy of some guy hot me a Rose amd so on... Dont know what her whole breakdown was about bit i didn't care o was just so into this girl that was a bit older than me and very cool compared to the local girls. According to my friends she looked like Kim Wilde around Cambodia time.. Didnt think about that myself but whatever,she was cool and a great girl to meet at the right time.. everything made sense. 😊
I think the foreigner was a bit unlucky with her love life lol. Maybe lost her guy to a Norwegian and this is her revenge.😂😂😂
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Norwegian here, I find using Oslo as an example for anything Norwegian is idiotic, Oslo is a very big and busy city (for Norway) with a lot of mixed cultures. It's not a great representative of how we all do things in Norway, especially dating culture. And to use a tourist's experience to learn about our culture is a bit weird. I see new couples all around me all the time where I live, majority do not find their new partner over the phone, they meet them at work or at school for example. To say gender roles don't exist is flawed, yes it's not so extreme like the US but Norway isn't perfect, women still have expectations set upon them, same with men to some degree. And wome do all the chasing? what? This is also so weird to say. I find that redditor honestly insulting, they do not love Norway or Norwegian people by the way they speak, they barely understand us at all.
The person that invites pay. Wich is usually a man, But sometimes women invites. Then she pays. If there are 2 single people and having similar income. Why should I pay ?
Even the government complaint that we norwegian men don't have enough sex.
That should say little bit how our situation are in Norway.
But don't complain at us. Complain on the women. It's their fault.
We ain't asking them anymore because they had becoming with alot of different saying in puplic towards men who are just innocently asking them, or looking at them.
I had few of them my self. Just looking at a women on the other side on the street. Didn't touch her, asked her or anything. She started too scream at me.
Just because i had few extra seconds look at her.
We ain't doing that anymore. Now the women who are going toward the men, and trust me.
Last years i have been hooked up by several younger women, but i'm saying no.
I'm done (also real reason is that they are half of my age). I'm looking very young so they think i'm at their age (16-20 years), when i'm actually 33 years old.
Nobody belives me when i'm telling the age. But minimum 25 years for me.
Altough that's a problem for me when i'm looking for "older women", they ain't interested in me because i'm looking so young.
Too add up we had metoo and like similar events like i mention.
That was alot of focus in media for long period of time and we stopped flirting.
The women are getting shocked today if the men are flirting with them.
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It latest numbers are 37,1%
The thing is that we've realised EV's won't solve the climate issue caused by too many people on earth
I think the MGTOW-thing is real in Norway, we did it without knowing it for years. And the women are going frantic. :D
I live in sweden and swedish older men i know are passport bros or mgtow without knowing 😂.
This is just as much an foreigner not understanding much of the cultural quirks and differences as actual observations...
My fam from indre Tromsø and Bergen i grue up In Moss 30 min outside Oslo i live In mid norway Ålesund and slit is fackts but slit not
I never been on a date, so yer. were just difrent here
I wish women would let me pay and open doors for them. Let me be a gentleman. I'm old fashioned, I guess.
This is bullshit...mostly the men offer to pay this is ingrained in almost every country, culture and tradition. Norwegian here.
Maybe talt to s Norwegian
My Anerican friends have mostly met in churtch or in sport. An normal healthy way to meat people. Most of them will ask the girls parents to take their girl out. I like that.
In Norway most people will neat in a club and somewhere wgere most people are drunk. Therr is nothing romantic in meating someone in a bar or club where everyone are drunk. I hate the smell of beer abd wil bever kiss a drunk man. Luckely my husbans diesen't drink. He had to make a choice when he met me. To kiss me or to drink. And I'm so thankful to him. We loved to go for walks and havw dinner together after work. He love abimakes just as much as me. I had a dog and we met wgen I was on my way home after a hike with my dog. The dog wanted to say hello to him and I asked him to walk with ys. He said yes and took my hand. This was back in 1995.
That's a nice way to have met someone got a bit of a romantic side to it. I like that
So you basically have your husband on a leash.
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Too much talking....it gets booring..
Men not paying for dates, depends on the person.. Maybe the young generation don't.. Don't know.. I would always do it atleast (40ish male).
Divorce rates are quite high, and funny thing is. 70% of them are the woman that are initiating, because they want more and more and more.
Woman do the chasing, because woman are acting like every man is a predator, so males are afraid of doing it, to be set up as a predator online for taking initiative, so males stop doing it.
Romance is dead, also something that has to do with younger generations.
Dating in Norway is ruined, just 304 here
Every nordic country honestly if you aint moving like the men the girl mentioned you are screwed here😂.
The divorce prosent in Norway is 85%. Norwegians only focus on work and workout. Many many Norwegians go to the gym before work, then after work, then again after dinner, and then again in the evening. They go to the gym 3 to 4 times a day every day.
It's not that high. And no norwegian goes to the gym 3-4 times a day.
You must be seriously ill.
My fam from indre Tromsø and Bergen i grue up In Moss 30 min outside Oslo i live In mid norway Ålesund and slit is fackts but slit not