I'm not even sure Auron has a BA. In a world that was sane our chief Journalists should be more like Auron perhaps, but our chief academics should have a higher benchmark than being able to articulately discuss a book he's read. In a properly educated society most adults should be able to do this
Why doesn't the interviewy explicitly mention the French and the Spanish which were the main forces the Italians had to contend with. Instead he mentions the church which of course also played a large role because there was a large papal state in Italy.
I havent read the prince, but it seems like machiavelli is stating the corrupting nature of power should be embraced as the only way to rule a state. There is definitely truth to that, but it seems like he didnt account for how that inevitably leads to a moral decay of the leaders, which leads to decadence, which leads to losing power. I could be wrong and am going to read the prince now.
I'm not a Machiavelli scholar, but I believe that having a cunning leader who is himself out of the bounds of morality is not the end goal for Machiavelli. It's merely step one on the way to something else. Machiavelli's goals are (I think) to rid Italy of its corrupting foreign influence, and to restore the Roman Republic. To accomplish the first part, you need someone who is going to get down and dirty and who really understands power (the prince). But once that's done, their shelf life is over and its time to evolve into something more moral and stable.
Read the prince. Or listen to the audiobook, it is easy to find on youtube. But do not listen to specialists, including these guests, because it seem most people did not understand the book. The short notes of the prince would be: A good leader is firm but kind. But when you can only pick on, pick firm. Because kindness alone just means you will be exploited. And while being virtues is good, do not let it shackle you, because sometimes you need to act "evil" to get what you want. Also, other people are not virtues so you need to expect the backstab.
in a world that was sane our chief academics would be people like this
Yessir.
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I'm not even sure Auron has a BA. In a world that was sane our chief Journalists should be more like Auron perhaps, but our chief academics should have a higher benchmark than being able to articulately discuss a book he's read. In a properly educated society most adults should be able to do this
@properpolymath2097 well said
A great guest would be Academic Agent.
Auron is a beast! His podcast is a great listen if you enjoyed this 😁
Great episode!
Thank you for the talk. I found it interesting.
Phill Collins!
The prince is a necessary read for any leader
That boy fresh!
10/10 perfect, no notes
Why doesn't the interviewy explicitly mention the French and the Spanish which were the main forces the Italians had to contend with. Instead he mentions the church which of course also played a large role because there was a large papal state in Italy.
I still love Machiavelli as a path to my current understanding of power. However, I do see issues. Despite that it is always key to unlocking pathways
Good work guys. You snuck this past my guard. The segue from Machiavelli into unhinged ranting against humanism was inspired.
Weird to see Aauron wearing a suit. Maybe he finally wants to be taken seriously
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Awesome! Now do The Christian Prince by Erasmus :)
One true politician
I havent read the prince, but it seems like machiavelli is stating the corrupting nature of power should be embraced as the only way to rule a state. There is definitely truth to that, but it seems like he didnt account for how that inevitably leads to a moral decay of the leaders, which leads to decadence, which leads to losing power. I could be wrong and am going to read the prince now.
I'm not a Machiavelli scholar, but I believe that having a cunning leader who is himself out of the bounds of morality is not the end goal for Machiavelli. It's merely step one on the way to something else. Machiavelli's goals are (I think) to rid Italy of its corrupting foreign influence, and to restore the Roman Republic. To accomplish the first part, you need someone who is going to get down and dirty and who really understands power (the prince). But once that's done, their shelf life is over and its time to evolve into something more moral and stable.
Read the prince. Or listen to the audiobook, it is easy to find on youtube.
But do not listen to specialists, including these guests, because it seem most people did not understand the book.
The short notes of the prince would be:
A good leader is firm but kind. But when you can only pick on, pick firm.
Because kindness alone just means you will be exploited.
And while being virtues is good, do not let it shackle you, because sometimes you need to act "evil" to get what you want. Also, other people are not virtues so you need to expect the backstab.
Nassim Taleb looks different