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I am currently using Duo lingo as a beginner. To be honest, I kind of see the repetition as a good thing. Yes, it could be boring sometimes. But later on I realize that repeating them a lot makes me remember them on the longer term and kind of gets them stuck in my head better (as someone who doesn't have the best memory).
i've tried korean on both duolingo and lingodeer - and i can say at least for that specific language lingodeer feels SO MUCH better, it actually teaches you hangul instead of making you memorize random symbols, it also teaches grammar particles and structures and it doesn't feel like you're just memorizing a bunch of flashcards
@@yoohyeonforever7067 the beginner portion is free but the next level is not But i still recommend u try it u can use it for quite a while before running out of lessons!
@@yoohyeonforever7067 the begginer parts, yess but at least in my personal experience it takes a long time to get throught those, and they also update a lot of stuff from time to time to practice
In my case I use both, I consider that memorizing the hangul is a lot easier in Duolingo because of the repetition in the hangul section, since I'm not that good memorizing for me the whole explanation in lingo deer felt confusing. After I memorized most of the words I tried lingo deer again and it was easier to understand (that's my personal opinion)
As someone who used all the apps in this list i rank them as follows: S: LingQ (latest UI), Pimsleur A: Lingodeer, Speakly, Beelinguapp, Busuu, Anki B: Duolingo, Babbel, memrise (can be A) C: Clozemaster, Lingvist, LT D: Mondly, Drops, Ling italki is basically a 1 to 1 study app it's in a category of its on. Chatting apps not categorized: HiNative, Tandem, Hellotalk In my opinion it depends on your learning style, LingQ is focused on reading, importing News articles, novels, pdfs, youtube videos etc and convert them to study materials Italki, Hellotalk, Tandem, Hinative will help you in writing and speaking Language Transfer, Memrise, Beelinguapp for podcast/stories and real life interactions.
omg thankyou sm! this kinda opinion that i’m looking for! actually i just want to learn how to speak & write in another language but what i found is that the formal one😅 … p/s sorry my eng is bad😅
Yeah the East Asian languages, are terrible on there- But Spanish is only kinda better. My best friend uses it and is decently fluent in Spanish so she tells me about it; It doesn’t teach grammar at all, it also doesn’t teach the different between words and the different endings you’re supposed to use. Other than that it’s slay.
@@kittycraft1012 Weird, because I'm learning Japanese (currently N3 level within only 6 months of learning) and Duolingo DOES teach grammar. They have very detailed guides with every single exercise. Maybe their Japanese course is far better made than their Spanish one after all? Or maybe your friend didn't actually read the lessons before doing them? And before anyone asks, no, I didn't reach N3 that fast solely with Duolingo, that's mainly through immersion and SRS. I only use it as a supplementary resource because it's fun. It's much better than people make it out to be, though.
@@maramlomnz it does actually. I’m learning German and Spanish on and off and it’s got heaps of useful phrases for, the get go. Can’t speak for Portuguese tho
@@toricide515 it’s most recent big update has been a major upgrade tho, it’s so good now, and I’ve used it on and off every year for the last 10 years 🤷🏻♀️ It’s new Progression is so much better and now you learn actual useful phrases. Lessons are more structured and categorised better too.
I have been using Duolingo for a long time (for some reason I have a 925 day streak) and i like the random sentences because sometimes dumb sentences help me remember them because of how weird they are. Ive been learning Japanese and i like how you can learn how to read and write hiragana and katakana, but i wish there was an option to also learn how to write kanji. The stories are kinda cool too but i do like the feature on my iPad when you do the stories because you can do the conversation option and it will play like youre talking to someone kinda.
For me LingQ is S tier, although I can see why some people get confused using it. It takes time to really understand it, but once you do, it can really help you improve at any level.
I think it's S tier in terms of what I can accomplish with it, and how well it melds with my learning style, but in terms of how well the app is designed, it could definitely use a lot of improvements. That being said, I think the most recent update did help quite a bit
@@patax144 lingQ is MUCH better for just reading practice in my opinion, once you've established a solid foundation in a language. I wouldn't use it to start from 0 though personally
@@patax144 I normally start with Duolingo and then use LingQ, unless I’m learning a language that I can already understand to some extent because of another language in the same family, in that case I jump straight to LingQ. With German I did use Duolingo at first, because English isn’t similar enough to understand more than 50% of what’s written in a simple text.
it only gets you to A2 in russian because its not a completed course. Courses such as Dutch, are 6 units in the old tree, and get you to B1. Spanish, German, Japanese, and French get you all the way to B2
I see you edited your comment. If you want to do a final edit, you could change "god" to "good" in the first and second sentence. Congratulations on learning Russian. Russian is known for its complicated grammar.
i agree. i love the notes feature. it explains how the letters sound and how the sentences work. Duolingo doesn't do that. it just gives you words and you have to remember them, not really learning a language. just memorizing vocab
i also agree, lingodeer really explains the expressions and the words you are learning, duolingo is good but it doesnt explain anything at all, you just have to memorize or assume the context (srry if i made mistakes, english is not my first language)
@@asamabry Even though it seems hectic, I kinda like Duo's way of doing things. When I first started Japanese I was so frustrated that I was being thrown kanji that had no explanation. Like how was I supposed to know what that meant? But that's how you learn to talk and read. Through repetition and learning patterns. It feels authentic for me to see a word and learn it intuitively rather than from a text book definition. It's a little harder, and way more confusing at first, but ultimately that word stays in my head moreso than if I learned it like a traditional textbook teaching.
@@fatiharmin1301 i agree to some extent. i was trying to learn Korean using duolingo but it was really hard, especially since some audio didnt work. it was hard to memorize symbols for me. im currently learning spanish and they didnt explain conjugations and why they worked the way they did until further down the tree which rlly irritated me. i still use it everyday though! i just go to different apps or use my textbooks for more in depth things.
I tried to use HelloTalk on two separate occasions and just got hit on consistently by creeps. No one actually wanted to speak French with me, even after putting specifically in my profile I wasn’t interested in flirting and only wanted language exchange.
Big time agree. I’ve downloaded hellotalk and tandem multiple times and every time I delete them because it’s just exhausting. Between the people who just message “hi” and no matter what you message back to them you just cannot get a real conversation and the people who are just creeping, it’s just… not worth it. I would rather find people on social media who have common interests and therefore might actually have something to talk about
i have the same problem for german. at some point i pult a filter to chat with women only, the problem is that i keep texting people and very few answer ahaha
This probably happens 90% of the time, even as a guy I get hit on. The same with Tandem. This, although the apps would otherwise be very useful, just makes them unusable. You waste far too much time trying to find someone serious and end up losing motivation for learning. Shame.
i used a combination of duolingo, memrise, and pimsleur to learn brazilian portuguese. one thing i wish i had done more of (and will do when i start learning italian) is get a lot more listening practice/input early on instead of just using the apps. My plan would go something like, duolingo for learning sentence structure/grammar, memrise for vocabulary, pimsleur for speaking. Then I would find a podcast in the language on a topic I'm super interested in, and make sure the podcast has a transcript. Reading the words while listening to a podcast has been one of the most effective learning methods for me, and it's so much better than relying on subtitles which are rarely correct.
I know it's been a year since your comment but i'm brazilian, so if you want to chat about something to practice your speaking, maybe we have some common interest!
@@blueberrypie3141Sorry for replying because the comment wasn't for me, can you help me with my portuguese I use Duolingo and anki and for listening I listen to radio CBN on a website. Can you help me?
LingQ has been very helpful with Arabic. It takes some getting used to, that’s for sure but I believe in the premise that repetition of comprehensible input is a key to learning.
To me the weird sentences in Duolingo serve as a way to teach more abstract thinking which is more difficult than everyday talk, and because they do this it makes everyday talk easier
The weird sentences makes it more interesting and engaging, rather than boring intuitive sentences (e.g. my mother has the book). Not all languages have weird sentences, so I appreciate them
LingQ is actually the best in my opinion. If you like reading for language learning (wich is one of THE best ways to learn a language that is actually scientifically proven) then LingQ is the way to go. I understand that it can be confusing at the beginning though. With LingQ you have "infinite" progression. You just can keep reading what you like. It never gets repetitive and you can use it to reach a very high level in the language und still keep using it forever basically. It can also give you a sense of progression when you feel that you reached the "intermediate plateau". As long as you add new words to "known", you will make progress no matter what. I wouldn't use it as a complete beginner in the language though. I think its best to know at least SOME words to start using it.
@@naturalselection69 I hear this all the time but it's not "best" it's the most "efficient" way to learn languages. Don't know the original source but almost any proponent of "comprehensible input" will say this. That being said you still have to practice the other skills. If you never practice speaking you will never be able to speak.
When you showed Language transfer I felt curious and paused the video and immediatly downloaded it. I heard the first 3 lessons of German and I think it's Amazing. (I had no prior knowledge of German and I started speaking it right away!) I think I love this method, I believe it can be the perfect method for me. Thank you very much for the recommendation :) I think it won't take more than a few days until I start supporting it on patreon
Yes. I've finished the German one (it's short though, only 50 lessons). And I'm doing the Swahili Course now (110 lessons) It's quite fun, because unlike other approaches, you start speaking and making sentences from the day one
I downloaded it too! I want to learn German and I’m excited to have a good resource that I can use to learn and practice while I’m doing busywork or maybe even drawing- nice to be able to work with two hobbies at once LOL. How’s Swahili going?
@@anna07232 I've left it at lesson 90 or so. I have to start over. Because I've left it months ago. However, the Swahili course is amazing. the hard part is to keep going until the end. I think the method is very good. But it requires 2 or 3 times of doing the whole course, and after finishing you have to find other resources to keep incorporating vocabulary. Which in the case is Swahili is not easy
I personally love memrise I have 418 day streak (on Korean 1) which is my the longest, I also do all Russian and Korean courses on this app and it's really hard for me to be consistent on other language learning apps, they are not that addictive as memrise and I always end up using only memrise as an app to learn
DROP EM ALL AND TAKE THE DAMON D FRENCH COURSE. THOSE APPS AINT GNNA TEACH YOU HOW TO ARGUE W YOUR PARISIAN WAITER, ASK WHERE YOUR PACKAGE IS, OR LEAVE AFTER A ONE NIGHT STAND! (sorry for yelling im just passionate about languages…and very outspoken about how so many apps are dusTYYYY!)
Hello, I must add some things as someone majoring in linguistics: there is a difference between a dialect and a accent. Dialect are mutually intelligible versions of the same language while accents are only distinct pronunciation patterns. Dialects can have phonological, morphological, syntactic, and semantic differences; accents only have phonological differences. So the different "accents" of Spanish are really all just dialects. And accents only come far and few between, like the famous Liverpool accent in England.
Ive been using duolingo since 2017 and i recomend it for people who are motivated to learn. If you get bored easily it might be bad because the sentences are repeated often, which might boring after a while. The repetition is great cause it makes you remember everything but I admit it can be boring ahahah im currently learning bokmål, and it’s great
I also found LingQ confusing at the beginning, but after I got used to it, it became my favorite. There is a little learning curve for the mechanics of it that at least for me was worth going through.
@@ch4eriiix248 you can use it free, but if you pay you will have more functionality in your hands. Really useful functionalities. If you don't pay you still can use it as a resource of content well organized that you can listen to and read at the same time. If you pay for it, you can use their built in dictionary, keep track on words you are learning, review them whenever you want as flashcards and other kinds of tests, you will also be informed how much of new and known words each lesson will have, so you can chose what lesson to go for next, among other things.
Is there a trick to finding things on the site? I really like the concept of Lingq. I used it for a little while, but quit after they did an update about a year ago, where they made it a "Netflix"-type interface, instead of being able to search for specific types of content. After the update, I couldn't find anything - for example, I started watching a series of videos in German, but after watching the first one, I couldn't find the rest. They content that was presented seemed fairly random or what others had ranked as popular.
I get what you mean about Language Transfer, but I find that the lessons are just absolutely amazing, and you get such good content for free ahh. I think of the app as just being a centralized version of their content, and for me personally it’s a 10/10!
Lingq is really good ... you can load in anything you want. I admit I don't use all of the features (i.e. spaced repetition, which I use anki for) but I load in podcasts, entire books, articles and all sorts and I can easily work through them. I don't think theres a better foreign language reading app out there. It's basically just a pure comprehensible input engine. So it's driven entirely by the content you use on there, but if you know what you're doing you can load it up with all of the right content for you.
one app I've used recently and really REALLY liked is Mango Languages, the content units are pretty well divided and tho there's a lot of repetition I think that's actually good since they introduce words and then use them in sentences with I think only other words you've already learned, giving you the change to guess the structure first and giving an explanation as to why things are the way they are and all of that with audio (nice voice btw) following what's on the screen and at the end of each topic there's a listening and a reading chapter and every unit has a recap chapter also! maybe it's huge or something but I do not hear enough people talking about it
I've had a fellow language learner friend recommend Mango Languages, and honestly from what I've seen it looks really good. Sadly my local library doesn't offer it, but oh well, maybe one day I'll try it out.
Y'know now that I think about it I've had Duolingo on my phone for like 6 years and never once have I seen it change in any meaningful way. I mean at least it's stable, but you'd figure they'd like change the UI or something a little more, like damn bro this app has been the exact same since I downloaded it in like eighth grade.
One language learning app I really love is Wani Kani (sometimes called flaming durtles). It's only for Japanese and its for memorising kanji and vocab so don't use it on is own, but for what it does, it's really well made. It uses an SRS (spaced repetition system) so that you don't, you can't, forget kanji/vocab. Its super user-friendly. Everything is really well explained and its great for begginers moving up levels. The only con is that it's a little slow at first due to its time based nature and maybe the fact that it takes a while to level up so it could be slightly tedious for intimidiate learners who already know most of the stuff. Overall, you can tell the people who made it put a lot effort and love into it and I would 100% reccomend for people who want to learn Japanese.
so LanguageTransfer is great! you can learn unbelievably fast. it doesn't need to be flashy because it gets the job done. I think everyone should start with language transfer.
What I know about Duolingo hate is that it’s not hated for repetition. It gets hate for bad sentence structure and the way it’s set up makes the beginning extremely easy to the point where I can guess the answer from the multi choice but can’t remember outside of it.
A very stunning road map to language apps. I've used several apps in the video, but I appreciated the insights to all the apps covered because it's armed me with a knowledgeable perspective.
I use duolingo to learn korean and honestly i think learning a completeley new alphabet is very good on the app. There are the standart lessons and lessons only to learn the alphabet and they are detailed and aim to the point that it really sits. I dont even have finished the lessons for every letter and i already feel very confident, reading korean. You start with only listening to the sound and then collecting the fitting hangeul letters and then you make connections between the hangeul, our standart letters and how the hangeul sounds. It is detailed and perfect for learning new alphabets. Just after you managed to learn the alphabet, you can start learning vokabulary. My brother also said, that busuu would be great to learn to use the language in sentences that are usefull. Which is what i do, but i think busuu does not repeat enough for my head to memorize. (I am just at the beginning and have done maybe 3 lessons, so maybe it‘ll change)
I’ve been using Ling to learn Thai and I’ve actually found it amazing. I really like how they’ve structured it. I use it in tandem with drops and a good Thai dictionary app.
Same here. It's pretty good for grammar imo. There are several "courses" for each language, which are meant to be taken in order. Each course is pretty short 10min-1hr and has a few different ways to learn: - listening tasks. Listen to a sentence or a word, and choose the one out of four sentences that matches. - sentence creation task. A sentence is written in English, translate it by putting together a list of words. - grammar lesson. In every course there are multiple grammar lessons where you read a short text that teaches you one or two major grammar rules with examples written in both English and the language you're learning. If the language has a different alphabet (like thai), it's written in Thai, as well as with latin letters. - writing tasks. This is for languages with different letters. You learn one letter at a time, and you free-hand draw it with visual instructions. -test. At the end of the course you get tested in all the previously mentioned tasks (except writing). You have 3 lives, if you lose all lives you have to start over. For Thai, the 2 first courses are free, after that you have to pay a monthly, yearly or onetime lifetime subscription. The voice recognition doesn't work at all for me though, but other than that I'm quite happy with it.
You made me more openminded for language learning apps, however that sounds I started my journey with Duolingo a long time ago and never even tried out different apps, cause I thought: "Well, Duolingo has the biggest budget and is the most popular, there's no reason for other softwares to be better or even as effective as Duo is" Now I know what different apps are helpful with, how helpful they might be and that I shouldn't limit myself just to a single one
I mainly just use Duo because it's free. 🙃 I have a bunch of languages going on there so I figure eventually I'll spring for a subscription somewhere. (Plus this whole path thing on Duo makes me feel like I might not like it as much pretty soon.) I've used lingvist and lingodeer samples and I think they are both better than Duo. There is so much information on both, and with Asian languages (coming from an English speakers perspective) it really helps to have that breakdown to help explain a language that is completely structurally different. I used Pimsleur a long time ago (I used cassettes 😳) so I wouldn't have a clue what they're like. I look forward to checking out all the others that I've never heard of. Fun video.
For me personally, Pimsleur, HelloTalk, and iTalki form the perfect trifecta. Pimsleur rapidly expands your repertoire of useful sentences, and you can't beat its simplicity. HelloTalk lets you practice your written and verbal communication skills in an asynchronous way, so you can respond at your own pace. iTalki lets you practice your synchronous verbal communication skills (the one we're all afraid of!), as well as body language. The fact that you can do all of this from your bedroom, for a mere fraction of the cost of even the cheapest language class, is pretty damn amazing.
i feel like the weird sentences on duolingo are good because you're way more likely to remember those sentences (and thus how they're structured) then a boring sentence like "my cat chases mice"
Pimsleur is my all-time fave for learning languages. In undergrad, I decided to learn German before I was going to Germany to spend several weeks at my friend’s parents’ house in rural Germany. They didn’t speak English and I wanted to learn enough to not be a burden. I did the entire course the semester before I went while walking to my early morning Arabic class, and it was incredible how fast I picked up on it. I supplemented it with Memrise to expand on vocabulary and learn to read a little bit better, but by the time I got to Germany, I could converse with her parents at a basic level. I fell in love with the language, and although I’m not fluent, I can still watch a movie and get the gist or brush up enough to have a conversation. I’m currently trying to learn Greek and wanted to use Pimsleur but can’t afford it right now. Language Transfer has been a really good free alternative (especially since Greek was their OG language). I would probably use it again if I couldn’t afford Pimsleur, but I would definitely need more supplemental material!
For anyone wondering, these 3 apps all together work the BEST (for me anyway) : Memrise, Duolingo, and HelloTalk. Duolingo- it is kind of like a game but Duolingo focuses mostly on vocabulary and pronunciation. It has been very helpful, but slow if you use it by itself. Memrise- it is an app of story’s or news or videos in the language you are learning so you can get used to listening and understanding the grammar better. It also has subtitles in your native language and in the language you are learning at the same time. I personally find this very helpful! HelloTalk- This is best for speaking and forming sentences because you can call, text or go to voice chat rooms with natives in the language you are learning and they will guide you. You can also teach others your native language through that app! HOPE THIS HELPS!❤
As a person who has ADD the repetitive helps me because I cannot remember what I learned. After 3 years of Duolingo (Spanish) I can say I’m pretty fluent. Like I can have a conversation
I have a con of drops for you: on the Korean vocab, they marked my stroke order for one wrong. I asked my KOREAN friend. She told me I was right. I told the Drops staff of this a year ago. As of this day, no one has responded
As someone whose family is Yoruba, I tried out Memrise's Yoruba course and I can safely say that Yoruba doesn't have a direct word that translates to "hello" or "hi." Memrise not only doesn't know this basic fact but also said that " Ku " is hello in Yoruba when "Ku" actually means die. If you walk up to anyone and say " die " I can assure you that no matter the language or background, they will be confused and angry. So I don't usually recommend memerise for that reason. Plus the language variety isn't all that much.
I’ve been used Duolingo for Korean and Chinese, but I honestly didn’t learn anything because it didn’t teach grammar properly nor the meaning of the words which makes harder trying to learn anything. However, I studied Spanish once just for fun and the method they used to teach Spanish is insanely better.
There's a reason I prefer quizlet to anki lol. Anki is hard enough to figure out already, and I have ADHD so I found it even more overwhelming than most people would. Quizlet might not have all the features, but it's a lot more simple and accessible
i loveee language transfer. i didn’t even know it was an app i just use the audio files on youtube and the transcript. also love memrise for greek as well, and i use a user uploaded course for it.
@@m.howarth47 definitely try language transfer! this is specifically for speaking and listening though so maybe along with it you should learn how to write in the greek alphabet
Very good video, I understand what you are trying to say, its not that easy to just say this app is bad and this is just good. It really depends on lots of factors, I will try to explain these apps in little different way. 1 - Language Transfer: Its not about app, the app is just like a music player, Language Transfer is supposed to be an Audiobook that teaches language. But reason Mihalis developed this app, is most likely because in future he wants to add more stuff to his app to make language learning easier. Right now its just an MP3 player for LT courses, and it can download the courses for offline playback. 2 - Anki: Anki is the first app to use when you start your language learning, as you would want to save vocab and other things from your courses to Anki, and then review easily later in flash card format. But as you progress in your language, you will cover more and more stuff, and then a time will come that Anki will actually slow you down. At that point, you would need to limit down what you put in your decks, and finally at some point, Anki will just not work, as by then there are other better ways an advance language learner can help his language learning. For my French, after like 6 months, I stopped using Anki, but in start of my learning, it was a great app. 3 - Busuu: If by using an app, you mean to use a single app as a single main source of language learning, Busuu is the one. Though I do not recommend any app so far as main language learning source, if you were forced to do so due to many things in life, Busuu is the one. 4 - Babbel: Babbel can be used as a main language learning resource, though its not the best one, and I only recommend it as a supplementary material to your main language learning, in case of supplementary use, its very good app. 5 - Duolingo: Do not use it as a main language learning resource. But if you use to as supplementary resource with your main learning course. Then its great. I myself use Duolingo, but only to get more vocabulary and reinforce my grammar. And for my French learning its working great, but for something like Chinese, it might not be good. So check its reviews for that particular language from fluent speakers before proceeding on Duolingo. Though as you progress, Duolingo might feel to make you slow you down, when you realize Duolingo is just too slow, get something better. I am thinking of Memrise next after Duolingo. 6 - Memrise: I really like it, but only as a supplementary resource to main language learning. It has real videos of people talking, so that is really good. 7 - Pimsluer: It is a very very good app, it is a very very good resource. But keep in mind its for advance language learners. If you have studied new language at school but cannot speak it, Pimsleur is the one to go with. If you know Italian and want to learn French, or want to learn any other similar language, go with Pimsleur. But if you are absolute zero, and learning a language with very different grammar system to your own language, Pimsleur will not work for you. Go study other courses, build up your basics and fundamentals of language. Then go to Pimsleur very later in your learning journey. In simple words, there is no black and white answer, its very different for different people.
Wonderful review. I totally agree. And yes, Pimsluer just didn't work for me, I have to leave that thing. I doing other audio courses, which worked way better.
I believe pimsleur is great for practicing your speaking and listening skills, but don’t expect it to give you much vocab or grammar explanations. Honestly, I’d say use pimsleur as a secondary app.
Thanks for the awesome review! Don't worry about seeming biased toward or against any particular app. You totally gave useful information on all of them! :) I got what I wanted to know anyway, thank you
honestly my biggest problem with these apps is that THEY pace my learning. i’m honestly more inclined to learn the traditional way and download some textbook for studying and speak with a language exchange app to practice expression.
You should have tried the Mondly hand-free mode. That one is amazing as you can just do other things meanwhile. I regularly practise with Mondly in handfree-mode when I'm washing dishes and feel like it's a really good way to repeat vocabulary, especially as it is very audio-heavy. I got the lifetime of Mondly a year ago and never looked back. 100% worth it.
people have been begging Duolingo to add Persian for actual years now they've ignored 99% of the asks, and just moved on to more obscure conlangs, even with the drastic difference in user demand.
they STILL need to add icelandic 😒 like they say they teach endangered languages but i'm pretty sure navajo is spoken still by a lot of people and i can't find a good app (other than droplets) that has icelandic
I think Duolingo tends to get hate because of the weird sentences and how sometimes they don’t write words correctly if you watch UA-camrs speed run their first language they usually find something misspelled
i've tried korean on both duolingo and lingodeer - and i can say at least for that specific language lingodeer feels SO MUCH better, it actually teaches you hangul instead of making you memorize random symbols, it also teaches grammar particles and structures and it doesn't feel like you're just memorizing a bunch of flashcards
Mondly has the hands free option where you speak the answers rather than swiping which I find helpful and at the end of each set of lessons it has a audio chat bot to have a conversation with. It is my preferred at the moment. The only issue is that it is European Spanish rather than Latin American. I am going to try Pimsleur for my driving commute. I love the cultural elements of Lirica.
I understand your reaction to Lingq. When I first looked at it I was so confused I abandoned it and didn't look at it again for nearly two years. The I watched a video on how to use it and gave it another go. Now it's literally the ONLY app I ever use. In fact, I wouldn't really spend any time on any of the other apps because you can't learn languages by learning random words or even phrases out of context on a screen.
same for me. You need to understand first what the app it trying to do. But once you got it you can basially delete all the other apps (at least for me).
Thanks so much for this video. I liked being able to figure out if it was just me or if some of these apps actually weren't as amazing as advertised. You listed them perfectly!
I had hoped you would review Rosetta Stone, but this list is rather comprehensive. My go-to apps are Memrise and Duolingo, but I'm trying to get started on Anki. I'm also very tempted to get a lifetime subscription for Rosetta (I already have one for Memrise).
in addition ot Spanish, French, German, etc, Duolingo's Norwegian course is honestly one of the best ways to get into lesrning Norwegian (Bokmål only though)
I actually found out Lingvist a month ago or so , and been using it since then. ( Recently got back to learning Spanish orelse had left it for some years now ) Loved it right then but thought how it's not that famous , and then today this video just popped up in feed, so thought to see what is it acc to yours and surprisingly Lingvist is there XD. Btw anyway , great video there , and the point which you said " to use a combination of apps " is actually the way to go instead of just sticking to one. Got a good channel to subscribe to at the end .)
I feel Duolingos most frustrating thing is how is goes over zero about grammar or sentence structure. Mango ive done too but I feel like it maybe did grammer too much, so I try to use them together a bit.
I do French at my school, and my teachers made courses on Memrise with all our lesson vocab and vocab we need for the exams etc. I’m not a massive fan of their original courses but making youre own courses on there is so good.
I just download HiNative after watching your video a couple of hours ago and it was very helpful. I got answers to questions I’ve been trying to figure out and posted on forums without finding help. On the app I received answers within a few minutes. I think it will definitely help me level up my Russian. I’m actually glad that it really is mostly just a question and answer app. It would be too distracting and hard for me to divide my time with the other apps I am currently using. Thank you!
I think Duolingo doesn’t teach grammar as well as Babbel does, and they overhaul the German course too frequently. Babbel now has an option called Babbel Live where you can take group video classes, which I don’t see many people talking about. I attended 2 free classes and it was really good.
The problem with Babbel is that it doesn’t have the amount of languages that Duolingo has and so I have to automatically discount it because I can’t use it. I would love to be able to use it in the future if they do get more languages, but that is unlikely.
Curious if you have ever tried Mango Languages ? I use it irregularly along with my daily “must do’s” of Duo and Drops and like it as a change up when I have more time available. I was able to get it for free through my library which was also pretty cool 😎.
Thank you for the video! I just learned that Memrise also lets you skip words if you already know them and I really enjoy that feature. I use duolingo, drops, anki, and memrise, but i'm looking to branch out into some conversation-based apps because that is where i've been struggling.
I liked Duolingo up until the recent update when they replaced the learning tree with a straight pathway. It's not a bad thing, but they have completely eliminated word fading mechanics (broken circles) which was a gem. Now you only have to follow the new lessons, no matter that you are contnously forgetting the words you learned before. The training button doesn't work in the way the word fading did, and is mostly useless. I am looking for an app that would keep track of words and materials learned and suggest repetitions for most forgotten ones.
I’ve been learning duolingo Spanish since 2014 and French since 2017 and it’s really great and I agree the other languages aren’t well developed. If you’re learning Spanish, Italian, French and German it’s great! The weird sentences don’t matter because the aim is to teach you how the grammar works with different nouns and verb tenses. It’s not teaching you sentences to memorize and talk right away it’s more of a long term app to understand syntax and grammar in these languages. I’ve used duolingo to understand how to speak, read and write and then use UA-cam videos and podcasts to put it into context.. it’s a great application. I agree they have more room for improvement, they updated the app and the structure just got worse… I find myself having to do more filler lessons but I understand why they chose to change it. It’s not good for people who have reached an intermediate level, you’d have to advance to something else after that. I hope they make the improvements needed!
When you showed Language transfer I felt curious and paused the video and immediatly downloaded it. I heard the first 3 lessons of German and I think it's Amazing. (I had no prior knowledge of German and I started speaking it right away!) I think I love this method, I believe it can be the perfect method for me. Thank you very much for the recommendation :) I think it won't take more than a few days until I start supporting it on patreon
I'm already on my 540 day streak in German using Duolingo and I've done some online test here and there and some sites said I'm around B1. Never use any other apps aside from that. Anyone know which one is good for German specifically?
4:50 if you just start learning a language, repetition is key. The app makes sure you memorize the lesson taught. It’s similar to how you’d learn a language & its vocabulary in a classroom. 8:23 accent and variant is not same thing. What you’re talking about is a language variant, not an accent. Variants usually employ grammar and vocabulary difference, as in American variant vs British variant. T in your case Spanish from Spain, Mexico and say, Puerto Rico are 3 almost completely different variants of the same language. Spaniards and Puerto Ricans apparently speak very different Spanish from Mexicans. Accents are usually about you pronouncing words differently that rarely involves major grammatical or vocabulary changes.
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*me in the corner, already purchased all available outfits* : yeah
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I can't buy outfits, anyone know why?
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I am currently using Duo lingo as a beginner. To be honest, I kind of see the repetition as a good thing. Yes, it could be boring sometimes. But later on I realize that repeating them a lot makes me remember them on the longer term and kind of gets them stuck in my head better (as someone who doesn't have the best memory).
Same!
Yeah. Repetition is the easiest and more efficient way to learn. That's how we learn our first language, isn't it?
Totally agree. For me I’m trying to learn Japanese. I feel like repetition is great for learning the alphabets.
yes, some people really dislike repetition which is how you learnt your language when you're still young.
If you're a beginner, yes.
i've tried korean on both duolingo and lingodeer - and i can say at least for that specific language lingodeer feels SO MUCH better, it actually teaches you hangul instead of making you memorize random symbols, it also teaches grammar particles and structures and it doesn't feel like you're just memorizing a bunch of flashcards
Is lingodeer free
@@yoohyeonforever7067 the beginner portion is free but the next level is not
But i still recommend u try it u can use it for quite a while before running out of lessons!
@@yoohyeonforever7067 the begginer parts, yess
but at least in my personal experience it takes a long time to get throught those, and they also update a lot of stuff from time to time to practice
In my case I use both, I consider that memorizing the hangul is a lot easier in Duolingo because of the repetition in the hangul section, since I'm not that good memorizing for me the whole explanation in lingo deer felt confusing. After I memorized most of the words I tried lingo deer again and it was easier to understand (that's my personal opinion)
Wait but duolingo does teach you hangul
As someone who used all the apps in this list i rank them as follows:
S: LingQ (latest UI), Pimsleur
A: Lingodeer, Speakly, Beelinguapp, Busuu, Anki
B: Duolingo, Babbel, memrise (can be A)
C: Clozemaster, Lingvist, LT
D: Mondly, Drops, Ling
italki is basically a 1 to 1 study app it's in a category of its on.
Chatting apps not categorized: HiNative, Tandem, Hellotalk
In my opinion it depends on your learning style, LingQ is focused on reading, importing News articles, novels, pdfs, youtube videos etc and convert them to study materials
Italki, Hellotalk, Tandem, Hinative will help you in writing and speaking
Language Transfer, Memrise, Beelinguapp for podcast/stories and real life interactions.
your comment was extremely helpful for me, thank you soooo much
omg thankyou sm! this kinda opinion that i’m looking for! actually i just want to learn how to speak & write in another language but what i found is that the formal one😅
… p/s sorry my eng is bad😅
Thanks
Really intetesting comment. Thank you !
Omg thank u smmm
duolingo isn't the best at chinese, japanese, and korean but i do agree that they do the best in spanish
Yeah the East Asian languages, are terrible on there-
But Spanish is only kinda better. My best friend uses it and is decently fluent in Spanish so she tells me about it;
It doesn’t teach grammar at all, it also doesn’t teach the different between words and the different endings you’re supposed to use. Other than that it’s slay.
@@kittycraft1012 Weird, because I'm learning Japanese (currently N3 level within only 6 months of learning) and Duolingo DOES teach grammar. They have very detailed guides with every single exercise. Maybe their Japanese course is far better made than their Spanish one after all? Or maybe your friend didn't actually read the lessons before doing them?
And before anyone asks, no, I didn't reach N3 that fast solely with Duolingo, that's mainly through immersion and SRS. I only use it as a supplementary resource because it's fun. It's much better than people make it out to be, though.
yes bc duolingo in arabic isn't very well it's so bad
Spanish and portuguese are not the best. That I can assure, it will not provide useful information for interaction
@@maramlomnz it does actually. I’m learning German and Spanish on and off and it’s got heaps of useful phrases for, the get go. Can’t speak for Portuguese tho
Duolingo deserves at least A tier because it started out (and still has) the free version.
yeah but i feel like its quality has degraded since 2014
@@toricide515 it’s most recent big update has been a major upgrade tho, it’s so good now, and I’ve used it on and off every year for the last 10 years 🤷🏻♀️
It’s new Progression is so much better and now you learn actual useful phrases. Lessons are more structured and categorised better too.
@@harmony8623 I agree, I have been using it off and on for a few years and this new update feels cleaner and much better than before.
@@harmony8623 yes, I learn so much using it. And I love that you can let them pronounce everything this also helps me with being able to read Arabic
@@toricide515 duolingo japanese and chinese are getting better, what language on duolingo are you learning at ?
It’s a shame that quite a few of these require subscriptions to access basically any of the features, because they look so good :(
Don't you want developers to be paid for their hard work?
@@robb9779 yeah but some people just don’t have the money for it😭😭😭
@@robb9779ads and stuff
Very true...
@@robb9779 I'd rather they force me to watch an ads every 30 minutes tbh
I have been using Duolingo for a long time (for some reason I have a 925 day streak) and i like the random sentences because sometimes dumb sentences help me remember them because of how weird they are. Ive been learning Japanese and i like how you can learn how to read and write hiragana and katakana, but i wish there was an option to also learn how to write kanji. The stories are kinda cool too but i do like the feature on my iPad when you do the stories because you can do the conversation option and it will play like youre talking to someone kinda.
Update that no one asked for: I now have over a 1000 day streak
@@boltzydog527 Omg, I have only 92 and I'm so proud of it 😅
@@boltzydog527I’m proud of you!
I've 132 days streak but I shall make it more longer and I inspired by you.
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But how are your language skills?
For me LingQ is S tier, although I can see why some people get confused using it. It takes time to really understand it, but once you do, it can really help you improve at any level.
Tried German with it, from 0 and I got so confused
I think it's S tier in terms of what I can accomplish with it, and how well it melds with my learning style, but in terms of how well the app is designed, it could definitely use a lot of improvements. That being said, I think the most recent update did help quite a bit
@@patax144 lingQ is MUCH better for just reading practice in my opinion, once you've established a solid foundation in a language. I wouldn't use it to start from 0 though personally
Starting with duolingo then switching to lingq is the best
@@patax144 I normally start with Duolingo and then use LingQ, unless I’m learning a language that I can already understand to some extent because of another language in the same family, in that case I jump straight to LingQ. With German I did use Duolingo at first, because English isn’t similar enough to understand more than 50% of what’s written in a simple text.
I love how informative and organised this video is! You even talked about the apps in an alphabetical order
She is amazing, I love her content.
Duolingo is god at making you A2. And lingq is god at making you B2 after duolingo. The two were exceptional for me to learn russian
LingQ is very good once you have an A1 or A2
I'm currently learning russian so I'll follow your steps, thx for the comment :)
Hi, would you like to have a foreign friend? I am russian and I study English)
it only gets you to A2 in russian because its not a completed course. Courses such as Dutch, are 6 units in the old tree, and get you to B1. Spanish, German, Japanese, and French get you all the way to B2
I see you edited your comment. If you want to do a final edit, you could change "god" to "good" in the first and second sentence. Congratulations on learning Russian. Russian is known for its complicated grammar.
i disagree with the lingodeer rank. i think it’s amazing for east asian languages and genuinely breaks them down. i think it deserves A tbh
i agree. i love the notes feature. it explains how the letters sound and how the sentences work. Duolingo doesn't do that. it just gives you words and you have to remember them, not really learning a language. just memorizing vocab
@@asamabry exactly!! it just goes into depth, as a language app should for such complex languages.
i also agree, lingodeer really explains the expressions and the words you are learning, duolingo is good but it doesnt explain anything at all, you just have to memorize or assume the context (srry if i made mistakes, english is not my first language)
@@asamabry Even though it seems hectic, I kinda like Duo's way of doing things. When I first started Japanese I was so frustrated that I was being thrown kanji that had no explanation. Like how was I supposed to know what that meant? But that's how you learn to talk and read. Through repetition and learning patterns. It feels authentic for me to see a word and learn it intuitively rather than from a text book definition. It's a little harder, and way more confusing at first, but ultimately that word stays in my head moreso than if I learned it like a traditional textbook teaching.
@@fatiharmin1301 i agree to some extent. i was trying to learn Korean using duolingo but it was really hard, especially since some audio didnt work. it was hard to memorize symbols for me. im currently learning spanish and they didnt explain conjugations and why they worked the way they did until further down the tree which rlly irritated me. i still use it everyday though! i just go to different apps or use my textbooks for more in depth things.
I tried to use HelloTalk on two separate occasions and just got hit on consistently by creeps. No one actually wanted to speak French with me, even after putting specifically in my profile I wasn’t interested in flirting and only wanted language exchange.
Big time agree. I’ve downloaded hellotalk and tandem multiple times and every time I delete them because it’s just exhausting. Between the people who just message “hi” and no matter what you message back to them you just cannot get a real conversation and the people who are just creeping, it’s just… not worth it. I would rather find people on social media who have common interests and therefore might actually have something to talk about
if you wanna speak french FOR REAL i'm down for it!! i'm french (born, raised and still living in France)
i have the same problem for german. at some point i pult a filter to chat with women only, the problem is that i keep texting people and very few answer ahaha
This probably happens 90% of the time, even as a guy I get hit on. The same with Tandem. This, although the apps would otherwise be very useful, just makes them unusable. You waste far too much time trying to find someone serious and end up losing motivation for learning. Shame.
@@rosalauramarino4198 hey i‘m a german native speaker and i would love to help you improve your german :) (for real though)
i used a combination of duolingo, memrise, and pimsleur to learn brazilian portuguese. one thing i wish i had done more of (and will do when i start learning italian) is get a lot more listening practice/input early on instead of just using the apps.
My plan would go something like, duolingo for learning sentence structure/grammar, memrise for vocabulary, pimsleur for speaking. Then I would find a podcast in the language on a topic I'm super interested in, and make sure the podcast has a transcript. Reading the words while listening to a podcast has been one of the most effective learning methods for me, and it's so much better than relying on subtitles which are rarely correct.
I know it's been a year since your comment but i'm brazilian, so if you want to chat about something to practice your speaking, maybe we have some common interest!
@@blueberrypie3141Sorry for replying because the comment wasn't for me, can you help me with my portuguese I use Duolingo and anki and for listening I listen to radio CBN on a website.
Can you help me?
LingQ has been very helpful with Arabic. It takes some getting used to, that’s for sure but I believe in the premise that repetition of comprehensible input is a key to learning.
Good luck with learning Arabic man!
You still learning?
If so, which dialect? Or are you learning fus-ha?
To me the weird sentences in Duolingo serve as a way to teach more abstract thinking which is more difficult than everyday talk, and because they do this it makes everyday talk easier
The weird sentences makes it more interesting and engaging, rather than boring intuitive sentences (e.g. my mother has the book). Not all languages have weird sentences, so I appreciate them
@@annadupont7615 very true. Busuu and babel use very boring phrases. It puts me to sleep
LingQ is actually the best in my opinion.
If you like reading for language learning (wich is one of THE best ways to learn a language that is actually scientifically proven) then LingQ is the way to go. I understand that it can be confusing at the beginning though. With LingQ you have "infinite" progression. You just can keep reading what you like. It never gets repetitive and you can use it to reach a very high level in the language und still keep using it forever basically. It can also give you a sense of progression when you feel that you reached the "intermediate plateau". As long as you add new words to "known", you will make progress no matter what.
I wouldn't use it as a complete beginner in the language though. I think its best to know at least SOME words to start using it.
Where is the source that claims reading is the best way to learn languages?
I love LingQ. And then 20 words in I'm asked to pay. I've just given up on language learning at this point.
@@firebird4269 I combine Memrise and Duolingo 😊
@@naturalselection69 I hear this all the time but it's not "best" it's the most "efficient" way to learn languages. Don't know the original source but almost any proponent of "comprehensible input" will say this. That being said you still have to practice the other skills. If you never practice speaking you will never be able to speak.
I absolutely loved Lingq, and I think people should pay for quality instruction.
When you showed Language transfer I felt curious and paused the video and immediatly downloaded it. I heard the first 3 lessons of German and I think it's Amazing. (I had no prior knowledge of German and I started speaking it right away!) I think I love this method, I believe it can be the perfect method for me. Thank you very much for the recommendation :)
I think it won't take more than a few days until I start supporting it on patreon
I liked it too at first, I just need like images too but it's excellent.
It's been a month! Still loving it? i wanna give it a try!
Yes. I've finished the German one (it's short though, only 50 lessons). And I'm doing the Swahili Course now (110 lessons) It's quite fun, because unlike other approaches, you start speaking and making sentences from the day one
I downloaded it too! I want to learn German and I’m excited to have a good resource that I can use to learn and practice while I’m doing busywork or maybe even drawing- nice to be able to work with two hobbies at once LOL. How’s Swahili going?
@@anna07232 I've left it at lesson 90 or so. I have to start over. Because I've left it months ago. However, the Swahili course is amazing. the hard part is to keep going until the end.
I think the method is very good. But it requires 2 or 3 times of doing the whole course, and after finishing you have to find other resources to keep incorporating vocabulary. Which in the case is Swahili is not easy
I personally love memrise
I have 418 day streak (on Korean 1) which is my the longest, I also do all Russian and Korean courses on this app and it's really hard for me to be consistent on other language learning apps, they are not that addictive as memrise and I always end up using only memrise as an app to learn
ME TOO :)) I pair it with Language Transfer because they dont usually give that much vocabs (at least the Introductory courses)
And how do you feel like you've been doing with understanding/being able to have conversational Korean? (:
Hi, would you like to be my foreign friend? I am Russian and studying English)
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DROP EM ALL AND TAKE THE DAMON D FRENCH COURSE. THOSE APPS AINT GNNA TEACH YOU HOW TO ARGUE W YOUR PARISIAN WAITER, ASK WHERE YOUR PACKAGE IS, OR LEAVE AFTER A ONE NIGHT STAND! (sorry for yelling im just passionate about languages…and very outspoken about how so many apps are dusTYYYY!)
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Yesssss get it Damon
I love that Pimsleur actually teaches you to speak. Everything else seems like just vocabulary lessons when I'm in them.
Pimsleur + falou = love
Hello, I must add some things as someone majoring in linguistics: there is a difference between a dialect and a accent. Dialect are mutually intelligible versions of the same language while accents are only distinct pronunciation patterns. Dialects can have phonological, morphological, syntactic, and semantic differences; accents only have phonological differences. So the different "accents" of Spanish are really all just dialects. And accents only come far and few between, like the famous Liverpool accent in England.
When Anna drops a vid you gotta drop whatever you’re doing & watch 🤝😅
Agreed😅💗
Ive been using duolingo since 2017 and i recomend it for people who are motivated to learn. If you get bored easily it might be bad because the sentences are repeated often, which might boring after a while. The repetition is great cause it makes you remember everything but I admit it can be boring ahahah im currently learning bokmål, and it’s great
jeg lærer norsk bokmål også!! hvordan går det med norsk for deg?
Jeg som å, nei veldig god ennå
Det er hardt, men brukte jeg Duolingo og pimsleur første til lær da seinere trener med en venn, se videoer, og bruker translate her og der
I also found LingQ confusing at the beginning, but after I got used to it, it became my favorite. There is a little learning curve for the mechanics of it that at least for me was worth going through.
is LingQ free? :D
@@ch4eriiix248 you can use it free, but if you pay you will have more functionality in your hands. Really useful functionalities. If you don't pay you still can use it as a resource of content well organized that you can listen to and read at the same time. If you pay for it, you can use their built in dictionary, keep track on words you are learning, review them whenever you want as flashcards and other kinds of tests, you will also be informed how much of new and known words each lesson will have, so you can chose what lesson to go for next, among other things.
@@fabianogama39 oh, thank you for informing me!
@@ch4eriiix248 It was a pleasure to help. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.
Is there a trick to finding things on the site? I really like the concept of Lingq. I used it for a little while, but quit after they did an update about a year ago, where they made it a "Netflix"-type interface, instead of being able to search for specific types of content. After the update, I couldn't find anything - for example, I started watching a series of videos in German, but after watching the first one, I couldn't find the rest. They content that was presented seemed fairly random or what others had ranked as popular.
I get what you mean about Language Transfer, but I find that the lessons are just absolutely amazing, and you get such good content for free ahh. I think of the app as just being a centralized version of their content, and for me personally it’s a 10/10!
ahhh I really need to give them another go because I’m so curious about the hype
@@AnnaLenkovska Speakly and Lingq is a good shout too.
This video was so helpful, I only knew a few of them (apps). And you gave us more options to learn languages, thank youuuuu
Lingvist 😩😢
Lingq is really good ... you can load in anything you want. I admit I don't use all of the features (i.e. spaced repetition, which I use anki for) but I load in podcasts, entire books, articles and all sorts and I can easily work through them. I don't think theres a better foreign language reading app out there. It's basically just a pure comprehensible input engine. So it's driven entirely by the content you use on there, but if you know what you're doing you can load it up with all of the right content for you.
one app I've used recently and really REALLY liked is Mango Languages, the content units are pretty well divided and tho there's a lot of repetition I think that's actually good since they introduce words and then use them in sentences with I think only other words you've already learned, giving you the change to guess the structure first and giving an explanation as to why things are the way they are and all of that with audio (nice voice btw) following what's on the screen and at the end of each topic there's a listening and a reading chapter and every unit has a recap chapter also! maybe it's huge or something but I do not hear enough people talking about it
I've had a fellow language learner friend recommend Mango Languages, and honestly from what I've seen it looks really good. Sadly my local library doesn't offer it, but oh well, maybe one day I'll try it out.
it also has a really great language catalog, which is not somethin yu always find
I LOVE MANGO, it gets overlooked ALOT. WISH IT HAD images and wish it had a bit of grammar explanation but otherwise it's my main app.
agreed, great app - tons of content and solid structure to learning new language.
omg ive been using mango its so great cause im a slow learner and it constantly repeats things so that i can actually memorize it.
I love how you said this right before the duolingo update happened they definitely made that upgrade
personally i really love LingoDeer. it breaks down conjugation and use for key phrases in every lesson and is a generally good basis for learning.
Y'know now that I think about it I've had Duolingo on my phone for like 6 years and never once have I seen it change in any meaningful way. I mean at least it's stable, but you'd figure they'd like change the UI or something a little more, like damn bro this app has been the exact same since I downloaded it in like eighth grade.
They are testing a new "path" format that a lot of people dislike
Soooo things happened and turns out,,,
One language learning app I really love is Wani Kani (sometimes called flaming durtles). It's only for Japanese and its for memorising kanji and vocab so don't use it on is own, but for what it does, it's really well made. It uses an SRS (spaced repetition system) so that you don't, you can't, forget kanji/vocab. Its super user-friendly. Everything is really well explained and its great for begginers moving up levels. The only con is that it's a little slow at first due to its time based nature and maybe the fact that it takes a while to level up so it could be slightly tedious for intimidiate learners who already know most of the stuff. Overall, you can tell the people who made it put a lot effort and love into it and I would 100% reccomend for people who want to learn Japanese.
so LanguageTransfer is great! you can learn unbelievably fast. it doesn't need to be flashy because it gets the job done. I think everyone should start with language transfer.
What I know about Duolingo hate is that it’s not hated for repetition. It gets hate for bad sentence structure and the way it’s set up makes the beginning extremely easy to the point where I can guess the answer from the multi choice but can’t remember outside of it.
A very stunning road map to language apps. I've used several apps in the video, but I appreciated the insights to all the apps covered because it's armed me with a knowledgeable perspective.
I use duolingo to learn korean and honestly i think learning a completeley new alphabet is very good on the app. There are the standart lessons and lessons only to learn the alphabet and they are detailed and aim to the point that it really sits. I dont even have finished the lessons for every letter and i already feel very confident, reading korean. You start with only listening to the sound and then collecting the fitting hangeul letters and then you make connections between the hangeul, our standart letters and how the hangeul sounds. It is detailed and perfect for learning new alphabets. Just after you managed to learn the alphabet, you can start learning vokabulary. My brother also said, that busuu would be great to learn to use the language in sentences that are usefull. Which is what i do, but i think busuu does not repeat enough for my head to memorize. (I am just at the beginning and have done maybe 3 lessons, so maybe it‘ll change)
Im currently doing my Junior cert and i just had my German exam you are motivating me to study the language thanks love the videos
I’ve been using Ling to learn Thai and I’ve actually found it amazing. I really like how they’ve structured it. I use it in tandem with drops and a good Thai dictionary app.
Um hi sorry are u still using Linng for learning thai ? Because i have a plan to use Ling too but still unsure about it
Same here. It's pretty good for grammar imo.
There are several "courses" for each language, which are meant to be taken in order. Each course is pretty short 10min-1hr and has a few different ways to learn:
- listening tasks. Listen to a sentence or a word, and choose the one out of four sentences that matches.
- sentence creation task. A sentence is written in English, translate it by putting together a list of words.
- grammar lesson. In every course there are multiple grammar lessons where you read a short text that teaches you one or two major grammar rules with examples written in both English and the language you're learning. If the language has a different alphabet (like thai), it's written in Thai, as well as with latin letters.
- writing tasks. This is for languages with different letters. You learn one letter at a time, and you free-hand draw it with visual instructions.
-test. At the end of the course you get tested in all the previously mentioned tasks (except writing). You have 3 lives, if you lose all lives you have to start over.
For Thai, the 2 first courses are free, after that you have to pay a monthly, yearly or onetime lifetime subscription.
The voice recognition doesn't work at all for me though, but other than that I'm quite happy with it.
You made me more openminded for language learning apps, however that sounds
I started my journey with Duolingo a long time ago and never even tried out different apps, cause I thought: "Well, Duolingo has the biggest budget and is the most popular, there's no reason for other softwares to be better or even as effective as Duo is"
Now I know what different apps are helpful with, how helpful they might be and that I shouldn't limit myself just to a single one
A good number of apps to run through over this weekend. We need longer videos, Anna!
I mainly just use Duo because it's free. 🙃 I have a bunch of languages going on there so I figure eventually I'll spring for a subscription somewhere. (Plus this whole path thing on Duo makes me feel like I might not like it as much pretty soon.) I've used lingvist and lingodeer samples and I think they are both better than Duo. There is so much information on both, and with Asian languages (coming from an English speakers perspective) it really helps to have that breakdown to help explain a language that is completely structurally different. I used Pimsleur a long time ago (I used cassettes 😳) so I wouldn't have a clue what they're like. I look forward to checking out all the others that I've never heard of. Fun video.
For me personally, Pimsleur, HelloTalk, and iTalki form the perfect trifecta. Pimsleur rapidly expands your repertoire of useful sentences, and you can't beat its simplicity. HelloTalk lets you practice your written and verbal communication skills in an asynchronous way, so you can respond at your own pace. iTalki lets you practice your synchronous verbal communication skills (the one we're all afraid of!), as well as body language. The fact that you can do all of this from your bedroom, for a mere fraction of the cost of even the cheapest language class, is pretty damn amazing.
i feel like the weird sentences on duolingo are good because you're way more likely to remember those sentences (and thus how they're structured) then a boring sentence like "my cat chases mice"
Pimsleur is my all-time fave for learning languages. In undergrad, I decided to learn German before I was going to Germany to spend several weeks at my friend’s parents’ house in rural Germany. They didn’t speak English and I wanted to learn enough to not be a burden. I did the entire course the semester before I went while walking to my early morning Arabic class, and it was incredible how fast I picked up on it. I supplemented it with Memrise to expand on vocabulary and learn to read a little bit better, but by the time I got to Germany, I could converse with her parents at a basic level. I fell in love with the language, and although I’m not fluent, I can still watch a movie and get the gist or brush up enough to have a conversation.
I’m currently trying to learn Greek and wanted to use Pimsleur but can’t afford it right now. Language Transfer has been a really good free alternative (especially since Greek was their OG language). I would probably use it again if I couldn’t afford Pimsleur, but I would definitely need more supplemental material!
I also used Pimsleur It was very useful for my trip to Brazil I recommend this app 100%!!!🥹
For anyone wondering, these 3 apps all together work the BEST (for me anyway) : Memrise, Duolingo, and HelloTalk.
Duolingo- it is kind of like a game but Duolingo focuses mostly on vocabulary and pronunciation. It has been very helpful, but slow if you use it by itself.
Memrise- it is an app of story’s or news or videos in the language you are learning so you can get used to listening and understanding the grammar better. It also has subtitles in your native language and in the language you are learning at the same time. I personally find this very helpful!
HelloTalk- This is best for speaking and forming sentences because you can call, text or go to voice chat rooms with natives in the language you are learning and they will guide you. You can also teach others your native language through that app!
HOPE THIS HELPS!❤
based on your description of memrise, i think you meant lingq?
@@biobagholder8081 actually I’ve never heard of that but I just looked it up and I am intrigued! Thanks for the (maybe unintentional) suggestion 😄
What about hi native
As a person who has ADD the repetitive helps me because I cannot remember what I learned. After 3 years of Duolingo (Spanish) I can say I’m pretty fluent. Like I can have a conversation
I have a con of drops for you: on the Korean vocab, they marked my stroke order for one wrong. I asked my KOREAN friend. She told me I was right. I told the Drops staff of this a year ago. As of this day, no one has responded
As someone whose family is Yoruba, I tried out Memrise's Yoruba course and I can safely say that Yoruba doesn't have a direct word that translates to "hello" or "hi." Memrise not only doesn't know this basic fact but also said that " Ku " is hello in Yoruba when "Ku" actually means die. If you walk up to anyone and say " die " I can assure you that no matter the language or background, they will be confused and angry. So I don't usually recommend memerise for that reason. Plus the language variety isn't all that much.
I’ve been used Duolingo for Korean and Chinese, but I honestly didn’t learn anything because it didn’t teach grammar properly nor the meaning of the words which makes harder trying to learn anything. However, I studied Spanish once just for fun and the method they used to teach Spanish is insanely better.
There's a reason I prefer quizlet to anki lol. Anki is hard enough to figure out already, and I have ADHD so I found it even more overwhelming than most people would. Quizlet might not have all the features, but it's a lot more simple and accessible
and i like how quizlet has different learning modes as well! plus it’s free lol
@@kitzunemiku not anymore for learn mode sadly
@@kitzunemiku Anki is free too! just not on mobile
@@therainbowskeleton5797 since when is anki not free on mobile..? it hasnt asked me for any payment
@@koiyo303 AFAIK the only paid version is the iOS version. Are you on Android and/or using an unofficial version?
i loveee language transfer. i didn’t even know it was an app i just use the audio files on youtube and the transcript. also love memrise for greek as well, and i use a user uploaded course for it.
Hey! I'm starting to learn Greek, do you have any recommendations of good resources to use?
@@m.howarth47 definitely try language transfer! this is specifically for speaking and listening though so maybe along with it you should learn how to write in the greek alphabet
Language Transfer is amazing, despite not being 'appy' enough for some...
Very good video, I understand what you are trying to say, its not that easy to just say this app is bad and this is just good. It really depends on lots of factors, I will try to explain these apps in little different way.
1 - Language Transfer:
Its not about app, the app is just like a music player, Language Transfer is supposed to be an Audiobook that teaches language. But reason Mihalis developed this app, is most likely because in future he wants to add more stuff to his app to make language learning easier. Right now its just an MP3 player for LT courses, and it can download the courses for offline playback.
2 - Anki:
Anki is the first app to use when you start your language learning, as you would want to save vocab and other things from your courses to Anki, and then review easily later in flash card format. But as you progress in your language, you will cover more and more stuff, and then a time will come that Anki will actually slow you down. At that point, you would need to limit down what you put in your decks, and finally at some point, Anki will just not work, as by then there are other better ways an advance language learner can help his language learning. For my French, after like 6 months, I stopped using Anki, but in start of my learning, it was a great app.
3 - Busuu:
If by using an app, you mean to use a single app as a single main source of language learning, Busuu is the one. Though I do not recommend any app so far as main language learning source, if you were forced to do so due to many things in life, Busuu is the one.
4 - Babbel:
Babbel can be used as a main language learning resource, though its not the best one, and I only recommend it as a supplementary material to your main language learning, in case of supplementary use, its very good app.
5 - Duolingo:
Do not use it as a main language learning resource. But if you use to as supplementary resource with your main learning course. Then its great. I myself use Duolingo, but only to get more vocabulary and reinforce my grammar. And for my French learning its working great, but for something like Chinese, it might not be good. So check its reviews for that particular language from fluent speakers before proceeding on Duolingo. Though as you progress, Duolingo might feel to make you slow you down, when you realize Duolingo is just too slow, get something better. I am thinking of Memrise next after Duolingo.
6 - Memrise:
I really like it, but only as a supplementary resource to main language learning. It has real videos of people talking, so that is really good.
7 - Pimsluer:
It is a very very good app, it is a very very good resource. But keep in mind its for advance language learners. If you have studied new language at school but cannot speak it, Pimsleur is the one to go with. If you know Italian and want to learn French, or want to learn any other similar language, go with Pimsleur. But if you are absolute zero, and learning a language with very different grammar system to your own language, Pimsleur will not work for you. Go study other courses, build up your basics and fundamentals of language. Then go to Pimsleur very later in your learning journey.
In simple words, there is no black and white answer, its very different for different people.
Wonderful review. I totally agree. And yes, Pimsluer just didn't work for me, I have to leave that thing. I doing other audio courses, which worked way better.
@@markdavidson3000 What did you switch to? I like the idea of Pimsleur but the lessons are quite dull.
I believe pimsleur is great for practicing your speaking and listening skills, but don’t expect it to give you much vocab or grammar explanations. Honestly, I’d say use pimsleur as a secondary app.
@@Amar4nthine I used Paul Noble course, and now doing Teach Yourself Book and Assimil.
Thank you so much! This is exactly what I've been looking for!
Finally!! I really need this video 💗💗⚘
Thanks for the awesome review! Don't worry about seeming biased toward or against any particular app. You totally gave useful information on all of them! :) I got what I wanted to know anyway, thank you
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honestly my biggest problem with these apps is that THEY pace my learning. i’m honestly more inclined to learn the traditional way and download some textbook for studying and speak with a language exchange app to practice expression.
You should have tried the Mondly hand-free mode. That one is amazing as you can just do other things meanwhile. I regularly practise with Mondly in handfree-mode when I'm washing dishes and feel like it's a really good way to repeat vocabulary, especially as it is very audio-heavy. I got the lifetime of Mondly a year ago and never looked back. 100% worth it.
people have been begging Duolingo to add Persian for actual years now
they've ignored 99% of the asks, and just moved on to more obscure conlangs, even with the drastic difference in user demand.
they STILL need to add icelandic 😒 like they say they teach endangered languages but i'm pretty sure navajo is spoken still by a lot of people
and i can't find a good app (other than droplets) that has icelandic
@@negan.defender LingQ has both Icelandic and Persian
I'm only learning languages for fun, so I would appreciate a video like this but for free sources
S tier:
7:40 iTalki
11:32 Lingvist
15:34 Pimsleur
not me checking your channel this morning
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I think Duolingo tends to get hate because of the weird sentences and how sometimes they don’t write words correctly if you watch UA-camrs speed run their first language they usually find something misspelled
i've tried korean on both duolingo and lingodeer - and i can say at least for that specific language lingodeer feels SO MUCH better, it actually teaches you hangul instead of making you memorize random symbols, it also teaches grammar particles and structures and it doesn't feel like you're just memorizing a bunch of flashcards
You don't know how much i needed thisss
I was in a mess between Korean Spanish and Turkish and witch apps should I use . lovvee uu
Mondly has the hands free option where you speak the answers rather than swiping which I find helpful and at the end of each set of lessons it has a audio chat bot to have a conversation with. It is my preferred at the moment. The only issue is that it is European Spanish rather than Latin American. I am going to try Pimsleur for my driving commute. I love the cultural elements of Lirica.
I understand your reaction to Lingq. When I first looked at it I was so confused I abandoned it and didn't look at it again for nearly two years. The I watched a video on how to use it and gave it another go. Now it's literally the ONLY app I ever use. In fact, I wouldn't really spend any time on any of the other apps because you can't learn languages by learning random words or even phrases out of context on a screen.
same for me. You need to understand first what the app it trying to do. But once you got it you can basially delete all the other apps (at least for me).
Thanks so much for this video. I liked being able to figure out if it was just me or if some of these apps actually weren't as amazing as advertised. You listed them perfectly!
I've been using lingvist inconsistently for french but I still feel like it's helped soooo much
Thanks this is too much work WAOO!! Thank You!
I had hoped you would review Rosetta Stone, but this list is rather comprehensive. My go-to apps are Memrise and Duolingo, but I'm trying to get started on Anki. I'm also very tempted to get a lifetime subscription for Rosetta (I already have one for Memrise).
So? Did you get it?
@@PEACE.- Rosetta Stone? Not yet. Hopefully I'll invest in it soon.
i personally just used duolingo to learn alphabets, and it actually really helped me get started!
Mondly is actually quite nice and I got a lifetime access to all languages for 80 euros. Their best is the daily lesson.
in addition ot Spanish, French, German, etc, Duolingo's Norwegian course is honestly one of the best ways to get into lesrning Norwegian (Bokmål only though)
I actually found out Lingvist a month ago or so , and been using it since then. ( Recently got back to learning Spanish orelse had left it for some years now )
Loved it right then but thought how it's not that famous , and then today this video just popped up in feed, so thought to see what is it acc to yours and surprisingly Lingvist is there XD.
Btw anyway , great video there , and the point which you said " to use a combination of apps " is actually the way to go instead of just sticking to one.
Got a good channel to subscribe to at the end .)
I feel Duolingos most frustrating thing is how is goes over zero about grammar or sentence structure.
Mango ive done too but I feel like it maybe did grammer too much, so I try to use them together a bit.
we need an anki tutorial from you!!
I do French at my school, and my teachers made courses on Memrise with all our lesson vocab and vocab we need for the exams etc. I’m not a massive fan of their original courses but making youre own courses on there is so good.
I can help you with your French if you like. I took it in high school. I might major it in college.
@@dutchessdreamer4543 help me pleaseeeee
About language transfer, I have to say that not only the app is interesting, but also the story behind it
I just download HiNative after watching your video a couple of hours ago and it was very helpful. I got answers to questions I’ve been trying to figure out and posted on forums without finding help. On the app I received answers within a few minutes. I think it will definitely help me level up my Russian. I’m actually glad that it really is mostly just a question and answer app. It would be too distracting and hard for me to divide my time with the other apps I am currently using. Thank you!
Anna I'm waiting for your video 😍❤️❤️ love you too much 🥺
I think Duolingo doesn’t teach grammar as well as Babbel does, and they overhaul the German course too frequently.
Babbel now has an option called Babbel Live where you can take group video classes, which I don’t see many people talking about. I attended 2 free classes and it was really good.
The problem with Babbel is that it doesn’t have the amount of languages that Duolingo has and so I have to automatically discount it because I can’t use it. I would love to be able to use it in the future if they do get more languages, but that is unlikely.
Curious if you have ever tried Mango Languages ? I use it irregularly along with my daily “must do’s” of Duo and Drops and like it as a change up when I have more time available. I was able to get it for free through my library which was also pretty cool 😎.
The great thing about Anki is that you create your own content, so you can use it to learn everything
I've just finished my final exams and i did GREAT😭❤️
YES I’m proud
@@AnnaLenkovska 😭😭😭❤️
Gongrats 🌸🌸💓💓💓
@@FARAHHADH ohh thank youuu❤️
4:55 The sentence in the bottom left corner is taken from the Swedish national anthem, so it makes sense in the Swedish course
Thank you for the video! I just learned that Memrise also lets you skip words if you already know them and I really enjoy that feature.
I use duolingo, drops, anki, and memrise, but i'm looking to branch out into some conversation-based apps because that is where i've been struggling.
What!! Tandem is my favorite app all time!! Especially with the "parties" that they added recently
16:00 Final ranking
Thanks man.
I liked Duolingo up until the recent update when they replaced the learning tree with a straight pathway. It's not a bad thing, but they have completely eliminated word fading mechanics (broken circles) which was a gem. Now you only have to follow the new lessons, no matter that you are contnously forgetting the words you learned before. The training button doesn't work in the way the word fading did, and is mostly useless. I am looking for an app that would keep track of words and materials learned and suggest repetitions for most forgotten ones.
I’ve been learning duolingo Spanish since 2014 and French since 2017 and it’s really great and I agree the other languages aren’t well developed. If you’re learning Spanish, Italian, French and German it’s great! The weird sentences don’t matter because the aim is to teach you how the grammar works with different nouns and verb tenses. It’s not teaching you sentences to memorize and talk right away it’s more of a long term app to understand syntax and grammar in these languages. I’ve used duolingo to understand how to speak, read and write and then use UA-cam videos and podcasts to put it into context.. it’s a great application. I agree they have more room for improvement, they updated the app and the structure just got worse… I find myself having to do more filler lessons but I understand why they chose to change it. It’s not good for people who have reached an intermediate level, you’d have to advance to something else after that. I hope they make the improvements needed!
Love how clozemaster gamemifies learning languages
I'd love to watch a video of you showing how you use anki for language learning
When you showed Language transfer I felt curious and paused the video and immediatly downloaded it. I heard the first 3 lessons of German and I think it's Amazing. (I had no prior knowledge of German and I started speaking it right away!) I think I love this method, I believe it can be the perfect method for me. Thank you very much for the recommendation :)
I think it won't take more than a few days until I start supporting it on patreon
I'm already on my 540 day streak in German using Duolingo and I've done some online test here and there and some sites said I'm around B1. Never use any other apps aside from that. Anyone know which one is good for German specifically?
4:55 the Yes I want to live, I want to die in the north. It is probably in a Swedish course because it’s a part of the Swedish nationalen anthem
I really love LingQ cuz I feel that it's the language learning resource that I only need so it would be nice if you give it a second chance :(
4:50 if you just start learning a language, repetition is key. The app makes sure you memorize the lesson taught. It’s similar to how you’d learn a language & its vocabulary in a classroom.
8:23 accent and variant is not same thing. What you’re talking about is a language variant, not an accent. Variants usually employ grammar and vocabulary difference, as in American variant vs British variant. T in your case Spanish from Spain, Mexico and say, Puerto Rico are 3 almost completely different variants of the same language. Spaniards and Puerto Ricans apparently speak very different Spanish from Mexicans.
Accents are usually about you pronouncing words differently that rarely involves major grammatical or vocabulary changes.