Savage really pulled out his old baseball skills on that scepter swing. Sherri deserved hazard pay for taking that bump from Warrior. She was one of the best.
Yes. He was at the end of his career, too big... But he had great run, a surprising run. He had a very difficult job with this heel turn. Not everyone could be able to pull it off
Slaughter said in a shoot that the sceptre shot was payback for Warriors stiff work in the ring which ended up breaking Macho's arm. He said that Warrior was out cold after shot and he had to grab his full weight to pull him off ropes to pin him. Warrior was supposed to kick out and he was shocked he didnt.
"Why you hollerin about something someone wrote 30 years ago?" asks the person whose primary source material for the show is the stuff that was written 30 years ago.
I stopped putting this very comment after like 20 videos. Obviously Conrad is way unaware of himself a lot. Major blind spots. Same with all "woke" folk, such as himself.
I remember I was 11 year's old at the time and I was pissed when Sgt Slaughter did the turn his back on his country angle lol that's when he went w/Colonel Mustafa and General Adnan
His initial 1990 return - the hard ass military type - was jarring. Somehow the cartoonish Iraqi sympathizer was somehow so looney that, as an impressionable idiot just about to start high school at the time, I could handle it. In reality, his Joe deal ended just before he came back, with maybe a bit of overlap. His last cartoon appearance was the 1989 Dragonfire miniseries, his last action figure was I believe in that year or 1988, and his last appearances hyping the brand/toys in TV commercials were running in early 1990.
The angle was great for the time & very memorable I can still remember watching Superstars on Saturday morning when Slaughter turned & the months of build up. Too bad it wasn’t able to play out at that stadium I can’t remember the name right now for some reason.
@@jarrettjordan Bruce was / is loyal to the company that issued him a good amount sized paycheck every so often, sir. Simply put, he's a company man. Of course he'll protect the biz.....even if he hasn't been an employee there in years
@@piperar2014 I'm sure that's what it boils down to, sir.👍 No uncertainty about it. Bruce's most likely getting royalties from the WWE. I'd to major league ass kissing if Vince would be cutting me a monthly check, too. Hey, why lie??
I remember the promo were Sherrie tried to seduce Warrior to get Savage a Title Shot and Warrior screamed no and she was great. WWE used to tell great stories.
@@leonpennings7596 i agree but one think i will say if you watch the match even if slaughter took the belt from the ultimate warrior he realy didnt beat him if it wasnt for machoking randy savage and sentational sherry interfearing now way sgt slaughter could beat the ultimatewarrior ultimatewarrior would mop the floor with sgt slaughter
jeffrey riley i agree with you and youre friend nowin my case i wasnt really stunned or will say i am stunned but more disapoint it because sgt slaughter didnt really beat the ultimate warrior if machoking and queen sherri would not interfeard distract warrior or heating him with the cepter ultimatewarrior would mopthe floor with sgt slaughter so i wouldnt say i was stunned the only time i would say i would be stunned is if slaughterwould actualy beat warrior clean but if that interfearing never had happen ultimatewarrior would had beat sgt slaughter clean unlike slaughter winning with the help from the macho kingand sentational sherri ultimatewarrior didnt need macho king or sentational sherri to beat slaughter
Listening to the ahead of seeing Sgt Slaughter this evening, love it. Mania 7 was the first one I saw as a kid so the Sarge championship run felt so big.
Not sure if I agree with Conrad on Savage being past his prime during that segment with the Ultimate Warrior..I think that happened in "92-93" era..That Wrestlemania 7 match vs Warrior may have been Macho Man's 2nd best match for that PPV only second to his Wrestlemania 3 match against Ricky Steamboat..
What we really want to know is why the Cobra Clutch wasn't applied to Warrior. Extravagant bs with the scepter is what removes our suspension of disbelief
I watched this on pay per view as a kid and I remember the rumble match happening right afterward and the entire crowd was dead and stunned that Warrior lost. No one was into the rumble match until the end.
@@vincente4570 Indeed. I was in 7th grade and back then there was no internet or dirt sheets and the business was still closely guarded. No one knew that Warrior didn’t turn out to be the champion Vince hoped he would be so they made the decision to give Hogan the belt back at WM7. Warrior would never be the same again. But Warrior was still very much over with the fans that night and when he lost, everyone was in shock. I was so heartbroken. They did a great job building the Warrior and a Savage feud that culminated in their classic WM7 match. Still, Warrior just wasn’t the same ever again. But RIP, Warrior….always gonna be one of my faves❤👍🏽
@@doctor-d-rose69 I believe you. I missed a lot of wrestling for a period of time because of playing football. So I’m kind of late to the news. But I was religiously watching wrestling when the NFL season was over especially ✌🏿
Bruce Pritchard has previously explained that nobody should ever trust what wrestlers say. As Bruce has always said, the only reliable source for anything to do with the WWE is the WWE itself or Bruce Pritchard. Everyone else is a liar.
The fans didn’t care about the rumble anymore because they were warrior fans and shocked the warrior lost. The warrior with the right matches could have put people in seats but there was too much turmoil to go forward on both sides.
Yeah, it was kinda dicey for him back then. While I don't believe this was the reason they moved *_Wrestlemania VII_* from the Los Angeles Coliseum to the Sports Arena, I do believe that the death-threats made against Slaughter, McMahon, and their families were real because people do dumb stuff like that for far-less inflammatory-reasons.
@@D2Kprime they moved mania to the smaller arena cuz the pre-sales were laughable at best for the big ol coliseum. The slaughter heat was a brilliant lil kayfabe reason to do it, but I'm sure Bruce will claim that Sargent security was the real reason. He's a good company man that Brucie.
Even as 13 year old kids, my friends and I knew that there was no way in hell the Warrior loses to a middle aged, past his prime, out of shape and balding Slaughter without outside help.
As a 13 year old I also didn't know that Warrior was stiff as hell and all of the other wrestlers hated him for how bad he was. I hated him as a kid and now I am vindicated because literally every big time wrestler from the era said Warrior was absolute crap and stiff.
I always felt Warrior lost that night because he was in WWE’s doghouse. Complete year title reigns (winning the title at WrestleMania, losing it at WrestleMania the following year assuming you lost it at all and weren’t a multi year champion like Hogan) was pretty much the standard back then. Seeing someone lose the WWE Championship at the Royal Rumble was quite uncommon at the time. Add to that he never regained it at any point in the immediate or distant future. Granted, it took the combined interference of Slaughter’s henchmen, Sherri, Savage and Slaughter himself to “beat” the Warrior as opposed to Slaughter simply winning clean (which Warrior would be unlikely to ever agree to) but in the end Warrior lost the WWE Championship shy of a one year run with it.
@@countryboyred this would be his final championship run of any kind in the WWE. He challenged for the WWE, Intercontinental and I believe even the Tag Team Championship, but would never hold another championship in WWE. The championship matches he was in after this, often would end in a draw and/or some kind of finish where he would win the match by a DQ or count out, but the title couldn’t change hands.
Vince took the belt off Warrior because it was an underwhelming run. After that he never had another run because he wasn't trust worthy. Vince fired him after SummerSlam only to come back for WM VIII & leave before SS over money.
It was only “underwhelming” because WWE didn’t give him the full backing and championship push like they should have. During the majority of his run, Hogan was still in the majority of main events and top feuds and they still treated Warrior as second fiddle to Hogan
Warrior matches were better than 90% of the matches today and from those times. The hate for Warrior is ridiculous, he was made champion for a reason because the people luved him
I was gob smacked when Warrior lost, very happy though! On top of that Hogan winning the Rumble back to back for the 1st time ever!! Amazing time & best birthday present ever!!! (other then getting Mario World years later)
I just saw the clip of Savage hitting Warrior after he threw Sherry on top of him. I wonder if he purposely hit him as hard as he could since it looked like Warrior was careless and rough with the throw as usual.
Savage and Warrior got along well overall. I don’t know if Randy ever said a bad word about Jim. I’m pretty Sure he just sold that scepter hit to make money on the feud. And it worked. I wanted to throw a chair at the TV when this happened
The Ultimate Warrior is one of the top wrestlers on my favorite wrestlers list. He was very entertaining. His matches were entertaining. My favorites matches are his matches with Rick Rude.
@@mrunderhill40 ... technically, it was supposed to happen. Slaughter was booked to win the title from Warrior at Royal Rumble 1991 with interference from Macho Man and Sherri. The fans were the ones who were shocked.
At 5:55 Pritchard made it sound like war was declared while the PPV was going on. But H.W. Bush declared war on 1/16, but the ppv was on 1/19. He must be mixing up memories somehow since it has been awhile.
Warrior was hot back then and so was slaughter because of his G.I. Joe connection. But yes they wanted belt back in hogan only hulkamania can save the day BROTHER
I knew Slaughter would win just because it was such a mismatch that I had a weird feeling,Slaughter was past his prime but still really deserved it for past work
Vince McMahon "screwed over" Sgt. Slaughter in 1985 (releasing him from the company), because Hasbro made Slaughter a lucrative offer, where they would use his image and likeness (owned by Sarge himself) for G.I. Joe cartoons and toys. Vince had an exclusive toy deal with LJN, and he refused to allow Slaughter to profit from his arrangment with Hasbro. By 1991, Slaughter had been wrestling for 19 years. He was actually a lot more "reliable" than the Ultimate Warrior was, even though Warrior drew a lot more money than Slaughter did. So, it was a balancing act. Vince was displeased with Warrior demanding to be paid as much as Hogan, so he made Warrior drop the strap to Sgt. Slaughter at Royal Rumble '91. I don't fault Sgt. Slaughter for taking the opportunity to make as much money as he could towards the end of his wrestling career.
@@Scorch1028 Exactly. People also don't actually realize how big Sgt Slaughter was before that. He never really never gets mentioned in the same conversations. But popularity wise, pre Hulkamania, he was the guy for a while. WWF often brought back older talents like Backlund and expected them to be more embraced than they were.
Ironically history would repeat itself several years later when Bret Hart, just after his epic WrestleMania 10 win would drop the belt to another guy who also hadn't been seen more than a decade
When this happened I was 16. All of my friends watched wrestling and while we couldn't stand Slaughter we were so happy to see the end of Warrior's ridiculous title reign. Everyone cheered when Macho Man smashed the scepter over Warrior's head.
Really? I thought that was the best of Warrior. His matches with Rude, Dibiase, and Macho post WM6 were the best of his career. Only to put the belt back on Hogan
@vivahernando1 I was 13 years old at that time, and my friends and I were also happy that Warrior lost the belt. Now, don't get me wrong, there were definitely a lot of Warrior fans back then, and he was over, but he wasn't over like how Hulk Hogan was over. This was when Hulk was losing popularity with some of the fans, but he was still a lot more over than Warrior was at that time.
LOL at Bruce clutching his pearls that Meltzer came up with a cute nickname for the rocket fuel’d juice monster. And burying Mach for mollywopping Warrior Bruce was tore up for this one * cracks Steveweiser *
i always said the same thing about Warrior choosing to wear a baseball cap because of the scepter shot years prior. good point on Conrads part. i agree with him.
Honestly, listening to them talk about Plan Bs for WrestleMania VII gave me an idea. Its a shame that Triple Threats weren't all that common yet, because it might have been a great time to do Warrior vs. Hogan vs. Savage for the title.
Randy would have made them both look great. BUT Hogan and warrior (as popular as they were) wouldn't have been able to hang with mach at this time in his career. Warrior was COMPLETELY gassed in less than 4 minutes in almost every match. How could randy still make him look great for 20+ minutes? It would have exposed the warriors weaknesses and not protected his strengths.
@@michaelmclaren1333 Well Savage and Warrior wrestled at Wrestlemania 7 for 20 minutes and it was the best match of the night, and probably Warriors 2nd best match ever.
I rather it be a fatal four way instead. Honestly you can put any jabroni in as the fourth man because those three names you mentioned was big enough 😊
According to Warrior that is why he wore the baseball cap when Lawyer hit him over the head with the painting in the glassed frame. Because Warrior said he had pieces of glass stuck in his head from Macho Man's scepter that had to be picked out.
One aspect of this angle I later found fascinating was that Adnan Al-Kaissie was hugely popular in Iraq and knew Saddam Hussein personally. Nevermind concerns about ‘xenophobia’ and the like, Adnan’s involvement could have influenced the attitudes of those within the regime towards the United States.
I don't think so. There was a lot of propaganda regarding the Gulf War that scared people away from the turnstiles. People actually thought that Saddam Hussein would drop bombs in the Los Angeles Coliseum o_0...........
I think Los Angeles was not a good city for a stadium show at the time. The locals were pretty apathetic about anything sports related not names the Lakers. It wasn’t easy to get to for east coast wrestling fans the way Toronto and Detroit was, so you really has to rely on that pacific coast audience, but outside of Portland and San Fran, the west coast didn’t strike me as wrestling rich territory back then
According to an interview with Slaughter, he wasn’t supposed to win. Savage hitting Warrior was a receipt for Warrior breaking his wrist. Slaughter said he expected Warrior to kick out, but Savage had legit knocked Warrior out and suddenly Sarge was champion. According to him, Vince had to rework the leadup to Wrestlemania because of this.
@@jonharrison9222 Right, Sarge was a transitional champion. But he held it for 2 months, which is more than most transitional champions do. They had to pull the plug on Warrior early, though, because he wasn't drawing.
People take Warrior far too literally. You have to put yourself in the mindset of a time when Warrior was massive (in terms of popularity) and believe me as a kid growing up in then 80s/90s Warrior was a big deal. That’s all that matters. I don’t give a toss about the politics behind the curtain in the WWF. Warrior will always been a legend. I hold onto the memories, I don’t focus on the negatives. RIP Warrior.
Back when champions held the gold for a long time. And 10 months was too short. (Unless you’re a transitional champion like Ivan Koloff, Stan Staziak, Iron Shiek, Sgt Slaughter. Hell. When Bruno’s 8-year reign ended, fans in attendance were upset. That would NEVER happen today. Lol.
Between that and how much ole vinny mac is working Bruce to death he’s ran a little too thin. I enjoyed the show better prior to him going back to Stamford, CT.
With all the shit Jim gets, I absolutely loved his character as a kid and remember him vs Hulk and Him vs Macho Man being classic matches. Him and Macho had the look and flash.
11:20 - Savage interfered with the championship match at Royal Rumble because he had an agreed upon title shot at Slaughter if Slaughter won but no title shot if Warrior won. So Savage interferes out of his own self-interest but then after the screw job is done...Doesn’t even get a title shot at Slaughter and doesn’t make a peep about it. So none of this made any sense at all!!
One of the most confusing things about pro wrestling (back when kayfabe was alive) was how heels did not go after heel champs and faces not going after face champs. Hard to explain why Heel A wants the belt until another heel wins it.
I completely agree with Bruce at the beginning of this. Obviously the ultimate warrior took steroids, I don’t think that’s what Bruce was trying to argue. The argument was, where the fuck does Dave Meltzer get off breaking somebody’s balls about shooting anabolic steroids? If Dave Meltzer had any more steroids running through him, he’d be bleeding out of his ears.
Vince McMahon on the Utimate Warrior tribute documentary, "I was very concerned for Warrior at that time. He went from straight up steroids to HGH (Human growth hormone)
Warrior was a serious bodybuilder a heart. They will experiment with the latest & greatest drug. GH was THE thing back then. Plus, GH could be prescribed back then and wasn't a felony to possess, unlike testosterone. I heard Warrior got in hot water over a steroid source getting popped in Europe so evidently he didn't have serious connections like one thought, at least for non-domestic anabolics.
The Rougeaux Brothers, Dino Bravo, Rick Martel, Renee Dupree... funny how every time a French Canadian comes on WWE with their French Canadian heritage as part of their gimmick; they are almost always heels. Occasionally they do perform as faces, but the peak of their careers with the company are as heel characters.
It’s been a couple of years since I’ve listened to this podcast and, while I used to enjoy it, this one is absolute garbage. I’ve always wondered what kind of politicking needed to be done backstage to convince the Warrior to drop the title given his reputation for being difficult and was expecting some insight here. Nope. Nothing. Just a bunch of hot air and BS. I’m sure Conrad feels a sense of loyalty to this one because it got the ball rolling but devoting more time to the more substantive shows from Arn and JR would be better at this point IMO.
If you call the audible, have Savage still hit Warrior but have a DQ ending. Sarge doesn’t take the pin, can still look strong vs Hogan, and Warrior vs Savage is title vs Career.
I love that Bruce ALWAYS shits on Dave Meltzer and rubs Vince's back every episode, and Conrad shits on Vince and sits on Meltzers lap like he's Santa and it's Christmas time...
Savage really pulled out his old baseball skills on that scepter swing. Sherri deserved hazard pay for taking that bump from Warrior. She was one of the best.
Sarge doesn’t get the credit he deserves for this run. He was a terrifying heel.
Huh
Yes. He was at the end of his career, too big... But he had great run, a surprising run. He had a very difficult job with this heel turn. Not everyone could be able to pull it off
Would of like sarge to hold title to survivor series.
@@etblok9359 JBL could ✋
He was dreadful and the numbers reflected it. He gassed after about 90 seconds every match
Slaughter said in a shoot that the sceptre shot was payback for Warriors stiff work in the ring which ended up breaking Macho's arm. He said that Warrior was out cold after shot and he had to grab his full weight to pull him off ropes to pin him. Warrior was supposed to kick out and he was shocked he didnt.
I just watched that too!
I watched the footage and that's how it LOOKS...
Makes you wonder who is telling the truth and/or how much Bruce lies about???
Yup, he hit him full out. I saw that shoot as well. Never liked the sarge, but hes aiight in my books. Lol talented staple of the industry
@@richm574 ya it was really good. Seems like a great guy. True pro!!
"Why you hollerin about something someone wrote 30 years ago?" asks the person whose primary source material for the show is the stuff that was written 30 years ago.
Conrad Thompson keeps mentioning Dave Meltzer, who Bruce Prichard has repeatedly stated is "not a reliable source."
I stopped putting this very comment after like 20 videos. Obviously Conrad is way unaware of himself a lot. Major blind spots. Same with all "woke" folk, such as himself.
@@Scorch1028 thank you
@@Scorch1028 Bruce Prichard is a unreliable source!
@@coywarrior71 u took my sentence lol
What made it scary was that Sgt slaughter was the mascot for GIJOE..as well as the war at that time..it was surreal.
I remember I was 11 year's old at the time and I was pissed when Sgt Slaughter did the turn his back on his country angle lol that's when he went w/Colonel Mustafa and General Adnan
His initial 1990 return - the hard ass military type - was jarring. Somehow the cartoonish Iraqi sympathizer was somehow so looney that, as an impressionable idiot just about to start high school at the time, I could handle it.
In reality, his Joe deal ended just before he came back, with maybe a bit of overlap. His last cartoon appearance was the 1989 Dragonfire miniseries, his last action figure was I believe in that year or 1988, and his last appearances hyping the brand/toys in TV commercials were running in early 1990.
The angle was great for the time & very memorable I can still remember watching Superstars on Saturday morning when Slaughter turned & the months of build up. Too bad it wasn’t able to play out at that stadium I can’t remember the name right now for some reason.
I meant the Hogan Slaughter Wrestlemania 7 match
He gave up the gi joe deal to do this
Dude, his Macho impression had me in stitches, like Warrior's head. I was laughing my ass off.
"You're not going to pretend Warrior wasn't on steroids, are you?"
"I don't know that 🤷♂️"
Says the guy who always claims Vince never told a wrestler to do roids. We all know Bruce is full of shit on anything that could make WWE look bad.
@@jarrettjordan Bruce was / is loyal to the company that issued him a good amount sized paycheck every so often, sir. Simply put, he's a company man. Of course he'll protect the biz.....even if he hasn't been an employee there in years
@@michaelvaughn8864 "Royalties"?
@@piperar2014 I'm sure that's what it boils down to, sir.👍 No uncertainty about it. Bruce's most likely getting royalties from the WWE. I'd to major league ass kissing if Vince would be cutting me a monthly check, too. Hey, why lie??
@@piperar2014 Sorry...I meant, do
I like Bruce's Savage impersonation.
I love it when people nail impressions of Savage, Vince, Jim Barnett, Dusty, Zbyszko, Hogan, Terry Funk, etc.
...and Stu Hart.
why? its not good
I remember the promo were Sherrie tried to seduce Warrior to get Savage a Title Shot and Warrior screamed no and she was great. WWE used to tell great stories.
Best part was when she dropped to her knees and the entire male audience in attendance started cheering loudly lmfao
@@nicholaswidlewski8876 lol those were the days..
That whole shit with Savage, where he runs out from the side and hits the Warrior then hits him with the scepter. Savage made it look real af.
@Matt Savage Hogan??
@@StuUngar uh yeah Hogan walks away with the glory considering Slaughter won the title
@@sheepdavis Well eventually, but Hogan had nothing to do with this match or Savage/Warrior’s epic match at WM 7.
I still think 30 years later that Savage didnt half dig it in!!!
Because it was
The sceptre shot heard around the world, probably a case of another guy giving Warrior a receipt he deserved
Warrior vs Slaughter had more heat than anything on AEW and WWE
Well... GAY-EW anyways...
Man I loved Ultimate Warrior and seeing him lose the belt to Slaughter destroyed me as a kid
You can't kick out when you're knocked out! Oooohhhhh Yeah!
Macho King and Queen Sherrie were my favorite stars of this era. I was fat kid in love with the Heels. They made this match work.
My friend and I were STUNNED Warrior lost the belt to Slaughter.
Me too! Never saw that one coming, such a disappointment.
@@leonpennings7596 i agree but one think i will say if you watch the match even if slaughter took the belt from the ultimate warrior he realy didnt beat him if it wasnt for machoking randy savage and sentational sherry interfearing now way sgt slaughter could beat the ultimatewarrior ultimatewarrior would mop the floor with sgt slaughter
jeffrey riley i agree with you and youre friend nowin my case i wasnt really stunned or will say i am stunned but more disapoint it because sgt slaughter didnt really beat the ultimate warrior if machoking and queen sherri would not interfeard distract warrior or heating him with the cepter ultimatewarrior would mopthe floor with sgt slaughter so i wouldnt say i was stunned the only time i would say i would be stunned is if slaughterwould actualy beat warrior clean but if that interfearing never had happen ultimatewarrior would had beat sgt slaughter clean unlike slaughter winning with the help from the macho kingand sentational sherri ultimatewarrior didnt need macho king or sentational sherri to beat slaughter
How loaded was Bruce here?
Listening to the ahead of seeing Sgt Slaughter this evening, love it. Mania 7 was the first one I saw as a kid so the Sarge championship run felt so big.
Not sure if I agree with Conrad on Savage being past his prime during that segment with the Ultimate Warrior..I think that happened in "92-93" era..That Wrestlemania 7 match vs Warrior may have been Macho Man's 2nd best match for that PPV only second to his Wrestlemania 3 match against Ricky Steamboat..
Was thinking the same
to be fair, a 42 year old in 1991 is a lot different from a 42 year old today in 2021
42 year olds LOOK better in 2021 than 1991. Then again Hulk Hogan looked 42 his entire career especially in his prime.
Gotta love HGH.
😂😂😂😂😂@@TheFailedmessiah
I cried my 7 year old eyes out when Warrior lost
I dont care what anybody says, that headsmash was ridiculously high impact nustve hurt alot
He blasted him!!!!
Excedrin headache numbers 17 & 18 for the Ultimate Warrior😏
What we really want to know is why the Cobra Clutch wasn't applied to Warrior. Extravagant bs with the scepter is what removes our suspension of disbelief
I watched this on pay per view as a kid and I remember the rumble match happening right afterward and the entire crowd was dead and stunned that Warrior lost. No one was into the rumble match until the end.
Damn dude. It sounds like when THE STREAK ended in Wrestlemania😊
@@vincente4570 Indeed. I was in 7th grade and back then there was no internet or dirt sheets and the business was still closely guarded. No one knew that Warrior didn’t turn out to be the champion Vince hoped he would be so they made the decision to give Hogan the belt back at WM7. Warrior would never be the same again. But Warrior was still very much over with the fans that night and when he lost, everyone was in shock. I was so heartbroken. They did a great job building the Warrior and a Savage feud that culminated in their classic WM7 match. Still, Warrior just wasn’t the same ever again. But RIP, Warrior….always gonna be one of my faves❤👍🏽
@@doctor-d-rose69 I believe you. I missed a lot of wrestling for a period of time because of playing football. So I’m kind of late to the news. But I was religiously watching wrestling when the NFL season was over especially ✌🏿
The sergeant pinned Warrior beautifully.
By the way, Warrior admitted that he did steroids
Bruce Pritchard has previously explained that nobody should ever trust what wrestlers say. As Bruce has always said, the only reliable source for anything to do with the WWE is the WWE itself or Bruce Pritchard. Everyone else is a liar.
"Bitch tits" are a common symptom of steroid users. Baldness, too, but that could be genetic. There is no bitch tit gene.
I actually liked this match, watched it not long ago and thought that slaughter made warrior look good
It was a better match than Slaughter vs Hogan by a lot..
The fans didn’t care about the rumble anymore because they were warrior fans and shocked the warrior lost. The warrior with the right matches could have put people in seats but there was too much turmoil to go forward on both sides.
To much Hogan being a crybaby and wanting the belt back.
Slaughter had major heat, more than any wwf angle in my lifetime.
Yeah, it was kinda dicey for him back then. While I don't believe this was the reason they moved *_Wrestlemania VII_* from the Los Angeles Coliseum to the Sports Arena, I do believe that the death-threats made against Slaughter, McMahon, and their families were real because people do dumb stuff like that for far-less inflammatory-reasons.
@@D2Kprime they moved mania to the smaller arena cuz the pre-sales were laughable at best for the big ol coliseum. The slaughter heat was a brilliant lil kayfabe reason to do it, but I'm sure Bruce will claim that Sargent security was the real reason. He's a good company man that Brucie.
@@sinicalypse he is SHITFACED as hell here...talking about Saddam Hussein watching the PPV?? lol
But Slaughter couldn't work worth a damn imo
@@greenhulkknowledge8101 watch the slaughter pat Patterson match, from a decade earlier but a good .
Even as 13 year old kids, my friends and I knew that there was no way in hell the Warrior loses to a middle aged, past his prime, out of shape and balding Slaughter without outside help.
Apparently the warrior was really KO'd from the head shot.... slaughter didn't even realize he was going over😂
As a 13 year old I also didn't know that Warrior was stiff as hell and all of the other wrestlers hated him for how bad he was. I hated him as a kid and now I am vindicated because literally every big time wrestler from the era said Warrior was absolute crap and stiff.
I always felt Warrior lost that night because he was in WWE’s doghouse. Complete year title reigns (winning the title at WrestleMania, losing it at WrestleMania the following year assuming you lost it at all and weren’t a multi year champion like Hogan) was pretty much the standard back then. Seeing someone lose the WWE Championship at the Royal Rumble was quite uncommon at the time. Add to that he never regained it at any point in the immediate or distant future. Granted, it took the combined interference of Slaughter’s henchmen, Sherri, Savage and Slaughter himself to “beat” the Warrior as opposed to Slaughter simply winning clean (which Warrior would be unlikely to ever agree to) but in the end Warrior lost the WWE Championship shy of a one year run with it.
pretty much agree. think he was too bullish or an odd ball to successfully politic like hogan and others.
Did warrior ever win the title again after this? This match was before my time, I never realized warrior ever lost to sgt slaughter.
@@countryboyred this would be his final championship run of any kind in the WWE. He challenged for the WWE, Intercontinental and I believe even the Tag Team Championship, but would never hold another championship in WWE. The championship matches he was in after this, often would end in a draw and/or some kind of finish where he would win the match by a DQ or count out, but the title couldn’t change hands.
Vince took the belt off Warrior because it was an underwhelming run. After that he never had another run because he wasn't trust worthy. Vince fired him after SummerSlam only to come back for WM VIII & leave before SS over money.
It was only “underwhelming” because WWE didn’t give him the full backing and championship push like they should have. During the majority of his run, Hogan was still in the majority of main events and top feuds and they still treated Warrior as second fiddle to Hogan
Warrior matches were better than 90% of the matches today and from those times. The hate for Warrior is ridiculous, he was made champion for a reason because the people luved him
Great inside perspective, thank you!
I was gob smacked when Warrior lost, very happy though! On top of that Hogan winning the Rumble back to back for the 1st time ever!! Amazing time & best birthday present ever!!! (other then getting Mario World years later)
Savage VS Warrior would have been a better Main Event that Hogan VS Slaughter. Hogan VS Slaughter would have been a better Co-Main.
That hogan vs slaughter match was atrocious.
We all know that Bruce is a stooge, but must he constantly remind us?
His brother, Dr Tom Pritchard, comes off like a straight shooter.
@@MortonT1958 yeah because he is the doctor of desire and was a member of one of the greatest tag teams ever
I just saw the clip of Savage hitting Warrior after he threw Sherry on top of him. I wonder if he purposely hit him as hard as he could since it looked like Warrior was careless and rough with the throw as usual.
Warrior and Savage were good friends
@@mikesharon2177
Warrior broke Savage’s arm the year before and put him on the shelf.
Savage potatoed him with the sceptre.
@@kelman727 no he didnt
Savage and Warrior got along well overall. I don’t know if Randy ever said a bad word about Jim. I’m pretty Sure he just sold that scepter hit to make money on the feud. And it worked. I wanted to throw a chair at the TV when this happened
That was a real hit
I remember being so let down that he lost. I was underwhelmed with the rumble until Hogan came out and picked up the excitement again.
Damn his macho man impersonation is amazing it sounds just like him.
"fuck your head!" lol
no it isnt and no it doesnt
Yea it was & yes it is
I want my country baaaack!!!
Because we were in the era of the Ultimate Loser, I just wanted wrestling back.
@@kennethmalone4689 umm wrestling was at an all time high that was the golden age bud
@@kennethmalone4689 Warrior was more over than the entire WWE roster
The Ultimate Warrior is one of the top wrestlers on my favorite wrestlers list. He was very entertaining. His matches were entertaining. My favorites matches are his matches with Rick Rude.
I liked WM 7 vs. Macho.
Bruce’s Macho man is hilarious
Warrior losing the title to Slaughter was absolutely shocking.
Because it wasn't supposed to happen...
@@mrunderhill40 ... technically, it was supposed to happen. Slaughter was booked to win the title from Warrior at Royal Rumble 1991 with interference from Macho Man and Sherri.
The fans were the ones who were shocked.
If Conrad and Dave meltzer was wrestlers back in the '80s or 90s Conrad would be carrying Dave's bags
At 5:55 Pritchard made it sound like war was declared while the PPV was going on. But H.W. Bush declared war on 1/16, but the ppv was on 1/19. He must be mixing up memories somehow since it has been awhile.
Correct, and technically war was never officially declared, as it has not officially been declared since WWII.
8:27 I'm glad things didn't go that way with Tugboat, the heel turn with Earthquake was way better....
Warrior sucked and Slaughter was past his prime. This was just so they could get the belt back on Hogan.
The fans at that time weren’t thinking that. People used to have a good time watching wrestling and didn’t try to fantasy book everything.
Warrior was hot back then and so was slaughter because of his G.I. Joe connection. But yes they wanted belt back in hogan only hulkamania can save the day BROTHER
Sarge had a ton of heat during this angle. Didnt his family receive death threats?
Did you guys see that scepter shot from savage? He really did say “fuck your head” with that swing. He swung for the fences for real.
I love the Police Academy 4 reference for the cover photo
I knew Slaughter would win just because it was such a mismatch that I had a weird feeling,Slaughter was past his prime but still really deserved it for past work
Never would have guessed that after Warriors epic win at Mania 6, he would lose the title to a guy who hadn't been around since 1984. Bad call.
Vince McMahon "screwed over" Sgt. Slaughter in 1985 (releasing him from the company), because Hasbro made Slaughter a lucrative offer, where they would use his image and likeness (owned by Sarge himself) for G.I. Joe cartoons and toys. Vince had an exclusive toy deal with LJN, and he refused to allow Slaughter to profit from his arrangment with Hasbro. By 1991, Slaughter had been wrestling for 19 years. He was actually a lot more "reliable" than the Ultimate Warrior was, even though Warrior drew a lot more money than Slaughter did. So, it was a balancing act. Vince was displeased with Warrior demanding to be paid as much as Hogan, so he made Warrior drop the strap to Sgt. Slaughter at Royal Rumble '91. I don't fault Sgt. Slaughter for taking the opportunity to make as much money as he could towards the end of his wrestling career.
@@Scorch1028 excellent point of view/comment.
@@Scorch1028 Exactly. People also don't actually realize how big Sgt Slaughter was before that. He never really never gets mentioned in the same conversations. But popularity wise, pre Hulkamania, he was the guy for a while. WWF often brought back older talents like Backlund and expected them to be more embraced than they were.
Like Edge winning the Rumble over more deserving members of the roster
Ironically history would repeat itself several years later when Bret Hart, just after his epic WrestleMania 10 win would drop the belt to another guy who also hadn't been seen more than a decade
Bruce’s impression of Macho is light years ahead of his Cornette impression but Hulk does the THE best Macho and Andre impression.
Savage almost made a homerun with Warrior's head.
Well, he applied those skills from his four seasons of minor league ball in the Cardinals farm system.
@@MarioLabot 3 with STL and 1 with CIN. He actually signed with STL the same day as Keith Hernandez
Looked like a Grand Slam to me
Why don't I remember the mock Police Academy poster for this Rumble? And 2:14 Prichard cracks open a cold one. Savage.
Bruce goes right into tearing into Dave Meltzer.😂😂😂😂😂 I fucking love it. I can’t stand Meltzer.
When this happened I was 16. All of my friends watched wrestling and while we couldn't stand Slaughter we were so happy to see the end of Warrior's ridiculous title reign. Everyone cheered when Macho Man smashed the scepter over Warrior's head.
Really? I thought that was the best of Warrior. His matches with Rude, Dibiase, and Macho post WM6 were the best of his career. Only to put the belt back on Hogan
@vivahernando1 I was 13 years old at that time, and my friends and I were also happy that Warrior lost the belt. Now, don't get me wrong, there were definitely a lot of Warrior fans back then, and he was over, but he wasn't over like how Hulk Hogan was over. This was when Hulk was losing popularity with some of the fans, but he was still a lot more over than Warrior was at that time.
I love Conrads reactions whenever Bruce goes off on Meltzer.
Ya why is that shit so funny? I dont know why but it is
In Bruce's defense, meltzer is a piece of hsit.
Dave deserves every bit of the shit people want to give him
Bruce is starting to hate Dave as much as cornette hates russo lmao I can understand why Bruce is sick of Dave's opinions.
@@michaelmclaren1333is it really possible for anyone to hate anyone else as much as Cornette hates Russo?
Bruce the Macho King bit was awesome 🤣
LOL at Bruce clutching his pearls that Meltzer came up with a cute nickname for the rocket fuel’d juice monster. And burying Mach for mollywopping Warrior Bruce was tore up for this one
* cracks Steveweiser *
Warrior’s admitted many times to steroid use
i always said the same thing about Warrior choosing to wear a baseball cap because of the scepter shot years prior. good point on Conrads part. i agree with him.
I think the rick rude with the work out equipment was worst.
Honestly, listening to them talk about Plan Bs for WrestleMania VII gave me an idea.
Its a shame that Triple Threats weren't all that common yet, because it might have been a great time to do Warrior vs. Hogan vs. Savage for the title.
Randy would have made them both look great. BUT Hogan and warrior (as popular as they were) wouldn't have been able to hang with mach at this time in his career. Warrior was COMPLETELY gassed in less than 4 minutes in almost every match. How could randy still make him look great for 20+ minutes? It would have exposed the warriors weaknesses and not protected his strengths.
@@michaelmclaren1333 Well Savage and Warrior wrestled at Wrestlemania 7 for 20 minutes and it was the best match of the night, and probably Warriors 2nd best match ever.
I rather it be a fatal four way instead. Honestly you can put any jabroni in as the fourth man because those three names you mentioned was big enough 😊
For the Macho Man. Warrior's skull was Florida State League pitching...
“3:24 he’s critical of Sarge and Slaughter” 😂
According to Warrior that is why he wore the baseball cap when Lawyer hit him
over the head with the painting in the glassed frame. Because Warrior said he
had pieces of glass stuck in his head from Macho Man's scepter that had to be
picked out.
One aspect of this angle I later found fascinating was that Adnan Al-Kaissie was hugely popular in Iraq and knew Saddam Hussein personally. Nevermind concerns about ‘xenophobia’ and the like, Adnan’s involvement could have influenced the attitudes of those within the regime towards the United States.
Bruce was drunk during this interview. Lol
Brother Love's Impression of Macho Man..... Funny as Hell
It was the right call to set up Hogan vs Slaughter at Wrestlemania. That was the best possible story they could have cooked up at that time
Hogan vs Warrior at Wrestlemania VII would've easily sold out the Los Angeles Coliseum.
I don't think so. There was a lot of propaganda regarding the Gulf War that scared people away from the turnstiles. People actually thought that Saddam Hussein would drop bombs in the Los Angeles Coliseum o_0...........
@@D2Kprime If Meltzer was there the day before doing some research, Saddam would have become a worldwide hero.
@@D2Kprime LOLOL "People actually thought that Saddam Hussein would drop bombs in the Los Angeles Coliseum" Maybe even Sgt. Slaughter!
@@handsolo1209 *You're a fucking idiot*
I think Los Angeles was not a good city for a stadium show at the time. The locals were pretty apathetic about anything sports related not names the Lakers. It wasn’t easy to get to for east coast wrestling fans the way Toronto and Detroit was, so you really has to rely on that pacific coast audience, but outside of Portland and San Fran, the west coast didn’t strike me as wrestling rich territory back then
Conrad babysitting Bruce Pritchard
Sgt slaughter is outstanding.
I always loved Sarge as the heel. I remember Adnan talking Iraqi and sarge nodding like he could understand him.
According to an interview with Slaughter, he wasn’t supposed to win. Savage hitting Warrior was a receipt for Warrior breaking his wrist. Slaughter said he expected Warrior to kick out, but Savage had legit knocked Warrior out and suddenly Sarge was champion. According to him, Vince had to rework the leadup to Wrestlemania because of this.
No the plan was always to put the belt on Slaughter so Hogan could win it back.
@@jonharrison9222 Right, Sarge was a transitional champion. But he held it for 2 months, which is more than most transitional champions do. They had to pull the plug on Warrior early, though, because he wasn't drawing.
People take Warrior far too literally. You have to put yourself in the mindset of a time when Warrior was massive (in terms of popularity) and believe me as a kid growing up in then 80s/90s Warrior was a big deal. That’s all that matters. I don’t give a toss about the politics behind the curtain in the WWF. Warrior will always been a legend. I hold onto the memories, I don’t focus on the negatives. RIP Warrior.
LOL! The Anabolic Warrior! Hilarious!
14 year old me was at that Royal Rumble. I was pissed.
Back when champions held the gold for a long time. And 10 months was too short. (Unless you’re a transitional champion like Ivan Koloff, Stan Staziak, Iron Shiek, Sgt Slaughter.
Hell. When Bruno’s 8-year reign ended, fans in attendance were upset.
That would NEVER happen today. Lol.
What kind of journalist insults the subject of their writing?
Most of em
It's called a critic
Pretty much all of them today.....
That thumbnail art is incredible. You probably won’t see this, but can I buy a print somehow?
Many fans were upset, because they thought a Hogan vs. Warrior rematch was happening at WM7.
How drunk is Bruce? Lol
The answer is "never enough"
Between that and how much ole vinny mac is working Bruce to death he’s ran a little too thin. I enjoyed the show better prior to him going back to Stamford, CT.
He sounds wasted, totally unprofessional. What an embarrassment. Fire him. I'd be fired coming to work drunk.
Well, you know.
At 2:14 you can hear someone cracking open what i'm sure is a beer can.
Sgt.Slaughter looks like my junior high p.e. teacher lol
With all the shit Jim gets, I absolutely loved his character as a kid and remember him vs Hulk and Him vs Macho Man being classic matches. Him and Macho had the look and flash.
His Macho King is hilarious
Guy says Savage was on the downside. Dude had the 2 best fueds during his time in WCW, vs Flair and vs DDP.
11:20 - Savage interfered with the championship match at Royal Rumble because he had an agreed upon title shot at Slaughter if Slaughter won but no title shot if Warrior won.
So Savage interferes out of his own self-interest but then after the screw job is done...Doesn’t even get a title shot at Slaughter and doesn’t make a peep about it.
So none of this made any sense at all!!
One of the most confusing things about pro wrestling (back when kayfabe was alive) was how heels did not go after heel champs and faces not going after face champs. Hard to explain why Heel A wants the belt until another heel wins it.
This is weird to hear them pretend Slaughter wasn't going to pin Warrior when it was reported in the Detroit News prior to it happening.
Warrior was AWESOME
I completely agree with Bruce at the beginning of this. Obviously the ultimate warrior took steroids, I don’t think that’s what Bruce was trying to argue. The argument was, where the fuck does Dave Meltzer get off breaking somebody’s balls about shooting anabolic steroids? If Dave Meltzer had any more steroids running through him, he’d be bleeding out of his ears.
Vince McMahon on the Utimate Warrior tribute documentary, "I was very concerned for Warrior at that time. He went from straight up steroids to HGH (Human growth hormone)
Warrior was a serious bodybuilder a heart. They will experiment with the latest & greatest drug. GH was THE thing back then. Plus, GH could be prescribed back then and wasn't a felony to possess, unlike testosterone. I heard Warrior got in hot water over a steroid source getting popped in Europe so evidently he didn't have serious connections like one thought, at least for non-domestic anabolics.
The Rougeaux Brothers, Dino Bravo, Rick Martel, Renee Dupree... funny how every time a French Canadian comes on WWE with their French Canadian heritage as part of their gimmick; they are almost always heels. Occasionally they do perform as faces, but the peak of their careers with the company are as heel characters.
Bobby Lashley was in his mid 40’s when he was champion! How’s that for a comparison
It’s been a couple of years since I’ve listened to this podcast and, while I used to enjoy it, this one is absolute garbage. I’ve always wondered what kind of politicking needed to be done backstage to convince the Warrior to drop the title given his reputation for being difficult and was expecting some insight here. Nope. Nothing. Just a bunch of hot air and BS. I’m sure Conrad feels a sense of loyalty to this one because it got the ball rolling but devoting more time to the more substantive shows from Arn and JR would be better at this point IMO.
Savage was Excellent
If you call the audible, have Savage still hit Warrior but have a DQ ending. Sarge doesn’t take the pin, can still look strong vs Hogan, and Warrior vs Savage is title vs Career.
Conrad's lack of self awareness is both amusing & annoying 🥴
I love that Bruce ALWAYS shits on Dave Meltzer and rubs Vince's back every episode, and Conrad shits on Vince and sits on Meltzers lap like he's Santa and it's Christmas time...
When Savage hit warriors head with the scepter, he must have broken warrior's head in half.