Building a new hotel further back wont bring the sand back, because the hotel will still need a wall of some sort. Without a water run off, it'll just make the erosion line further back and cause the rest of the beach on each side to erode further. What brings the sand back is the ability for the water to run passed the highest point and dissipate leaving the sand. I cant believe engineers dont know this simple process.
@garys2149, I’m pretty sure there are engineers “who know this”, but would do it any way, just for the money. We witness regularly, that people expertise/experience, can be bought.
I use to reach over the gate there to access the beach to go fishing. The pool guy saw me and told me to stop. He then gave me a key. I will never forget that. So nice of him.
?? The abandoned beachfront section of the hotel is NOT occupied, so what is the point of it being there, except wasting precious real estate... demolish the building and leave it as a beach for guests to enjoy, (build a protective wall if needed and stop whining about not having money to remove the abandoned building... we all know that resort has more money than God and there is no doubt the resort guests would much rather look out onto a beach, instead of that ugly abandoned section of the hotel.
@@ItsMe-yv9jd They're individually owned, not owned by the resort. Each unit is worth over a million dollars. So no, they won't just say "demolish it" so you can look at the beach better.
We have a rising ocean level situation. On Oahu, too. All the Waikiki beachfront hotels are dealing with the same issue. There's nothing that can be done unfortunately. Demolish the hotels and move them further away from the shoreline. Sorry about your nostalgia but that just the ways things are.
Sometimes beaches get bigger & sometimes there are storms and erosion that make them smaller. It’s a force of nature we don’t have a lot of control over the long term.
No matter where you live, if you're on the beach of somewhere, it will move come and go over the years sand on beaches will move with the waves (large areas with sand dunes just disappear after a bad storm, it moves up and down the coast!)nothing man make along ocean shore will last long. Just keep adding sand like on Waikiki 😅
Nope! Take a intro to geomorphology class in college. You'll learn wave processes and the causes of erosion. Building walls and seawalls along shores directly contribute to erosion.
I’ve seen that happening to ALL the beaches on Maui since going there every few years since 2005, which was the first time we went. All of the beaches were pretty vast in ‘05 and now there’s nothing left of most of them. Something fishy is going on there (no pun intended), if you ask me
@@user-cn5wv6mf4g A manufacturing problem. just remember it all starts just like the big island from lava rocks & the islands were a lot bigger than the big island. Just like anything else that gets old it breaks like glass.
@@robertcorrea557 but remember who we’re dealing with here. A bunch of globalists with a bullshit agenda of “climate change”. NOT! So they have to create it
?? The abandoned beachfront section of the hotel is NOT occupied, so what is the point of it being there, except wasting precious real estate... demolish the building and leave it as a beach for guests to enjoy, (build a protective wall if needed and stop whining about not having money to remove the abandoned building... we all know that resort has more money than God and there is no doubt the resort guests would much rather look out onto a beach, instead of that ugly abandoned section of the hotel.
No it's not. I've been going to the same beach for 50 years and fishing off the same rocks. At 0 tide it's the same spot it's always been. Stop blaming rising oceans and put the blame were it belongs, on rising developments. Every building on the ocean that has a sea wal displaces the sand. #facts
?? The abandoned beachfront section of the hotel is NOT occupied, so what is the point of it being there, except wasting precious real estate... demolish the building and leave it as a beach for guests to enjoy, (build a protective wall if needed and stop whining about not having money to remove the abandoned building... we all know that resort has more money than God and there is no doubt the resort guests would much rather look out onto a beach, instead of that ugly abandoned section of the hotel.)
Erosion is caused largely by rising sea levels....at least 25% of beaches worldwide are experiencing vast erosion. NASA has been tracking this for 30 years and it has been steadily increasing, so we are beginning to see what can happen and the predictions for the future are much worse if something does not change.
Rich people who move here 40 years ago WITH NO HAWAIIAN BLOOD cannot complain as well as the guy who moved here last week! That’s what happens when You want to play God on Hawaiian lands with money! Hawaiian people dont have the wealth to take lands back BUT We do get excited when natural disasters strike from Hurricane to lava flows!
I bet you drive on roads and highways built by America's federal government ? Does your imported vehicle have the sticker Hawaiian build ? As water levels rise and ground erosion continues to swallow the land , which as happened in other parts of the world islands totally underwater where would you go to live ? This is a much bigger problem that racism on who lived here first. Being you're claiming to be Hawaiian it should be heartbreaking the effects of global warming, water levels rising and ground erosion instead of being happy the land is being destroyed . You're hatred is stronger than your love for the Land where your ancestors are buried will one day be no more all will be underwater .May God save this land he blessed us with , we all who live her must not destroy her . God Bless Hawaii and his people and that includes you . Have a wonderful day in paradise our gift from God. We all bleed the same red blood here or in other lands . Also no one really owns anything, we leave this world how we entered with nothing. What goes with us is our hearts .
@@user-xl7kx7bi3l I was wondering when a Karen or Ken was about to chime in. First, everywhere near water You will have erosion, example:don’t build Your house on a volcano knowing it’s going to explode. Now, racism??? Everyone likes to talk a big game when Hawaiian people are fighting for what’s left of Our Birth lands.Ill give a example what racism is BUT ITS OK… Wealthy land barons along with crooked little to non Hawaiian politicians.They Make shady deals and build 5 star resorts on Our ancestors bones to historic sacred churches. They then HIRE PEOPLE OVER SEAS for the high paying jobs and post Landscaping to dishwasher jobs here in Hawaii. These Resort Owners buy 30 homes near the hotel and stack all the over seas workers in there to save money and take Hawaiians home to jobs away. Born and raised I see this all the time BUT ITS OK?? Now when the native Hawaiian can’t afford, GUESS WHO BUYS HIS HOUSE?? he looses everything and moves to Vegas where most Hawaiians moved over time because of this injustice.But no one wants to address to elephant in the room because You want to stay at the 4 seasons this weekend.How’s that for racism! Push out Hawaiians through work force.
Hawaiians were once tourists too. Nobody gets to slam the barn door behind them bruh. The Hawaiian royalty freely gave ahupua’a to the newcomers in exchange for money, goods and services. The overthrow was reprehensible, but those guys are long gone. None of us living today did that. I hope if you decide to move away, you are not subjected to the same racist remarks you are using here.
@@merrywalsh2809 one way street You live on. Only over seas people which means Asians to Africans and anyone in between WITH NO ALOHA AND LIVE HERE will face repercussion.I know bad hearted Hawaiians that I’m related to belong in the volcano and Haoles with good hearts that understand and sympathize for Our history to culture can have my bed,my last meal and my shirt off my back! And that goes VISE VERSA! Now You say HAWAIIANS we’re tourists? So when You sail to America,Your labeled a “Discoverer” BUT Hawaiians sailed to Hawaii and We’re “Tourist”? A one way street!
@@merrywalsh2809 and Hawaiian royalty was BLIND BY THE WESTERN WAYS and were giving/trading away land as well as it was being taken FORCEFULLY. Not to mention almost all the Hawaiian royalty princesses married over seas and became “Bishop estate”.
The pacific plate is moving such as Kilauea coming to life again and a new volcano forming on the ocean floor. If Hawaii is affected then all of the other islands will be as well.
I can't believe how shortsighted (aka stupid) & linear thinking engineers & developers are, they live in their own world of let's get rich now. Maui is a small island surrounded by the huge Pacific Ocean, scientists have been warning about beach erosion for sometime. Serves them right, or as some would say Hawaiian karma at work. Humans are no match for nature, we are like specs of sand!
Did you see how fast it eroded? I've seen plenty of beach properties in Hawaii that were that close to the ocean in the early 2000s and they are still the same distance today. I may not be an erosion expert like you but that was fast lol
Building a new hotel further back wont bring the sand back, because the hotel will still need a wall of some sort. Without a water run off, it'll just make the erosion line further back and cause the rest of the beach on each side to erode further. What brings the sand back is the ability for the water to run passed the highest point and dissipate leaving the sand. I cant believe engineers dont know this simple process.
@garys2149, I’m pretty sure there are engineers “who know this”, but would do it any way, just for the money. We witness regularly, that people expertise/experience, can be bought.
I use to reach over the gate there to access the beach to go fishing. The pool guy saw me and told me to stop. He then gave me a key. I will never forget that. So nice of him.
These people only have the most ridiculous solutions for these situations.
Cut your losses. Safety first. Demolish and start new.
Demolish and abandon building on sand.
?? The abandoned beachfront section of the hotel is NOT occupied, so what is the point of it being there, except wasting precious real estate... demolish the building and leave it as a beach for guests to enjoy, (build a protective wall if needed and stop whining about not having money to remove the abandoned building... we all know that resort has more money than God and there is no doubt the resort guests would much rather look out onto a beach, instead of that ugly abandoned section of the hotel.
@@ItsMe-yv9jd They're individually owned, not owned by the resort. Each unit is worth over a million dollars. So no, they won't just say "demolish it" so you can look at the beach better.
Just tear it down. They made millions.
I've been there at low tide , you can totally walk on the beach there where she jumped down.
We have a rising ocean level situation. On Oahu, too. All the Waikiki beachfront hotels are dealing with the same issue. There's nothing that can be done unfortunately. Demolish the hotels and move them further away from the shoreline. Sorry about your nostalgia but that just the ways things are.
Never seen a man cry over an Airbnb
Residents live in Kahana too.
Stay tuned!
It's not a POS Airbnb.
Of course they knew in the 70s. And probably thought "what the hey, I'll probably be dead in 50 years."
Sometimes beaches get bigger & sometimes there are storms and erosion that make them smaller. It’s a force of nature we don’t have a lot of control over the long term.
Hotels have a different set of rules. Take Oahu North Shore for example. The home owner can't do anything, but Waikiki Hotels; can? What Hypocrites.
That's why you never build your home on sinking sand. It's in the bible.
The Bible says a bunch of nonsense too. Do you eat pork? I do.
No matter where you live, if you're on the beach of somewhere, it will move come and go over the years sand on beaches will move with the waves (large areas with sand dunes just disappear after a bad storm, it moves up and down the coast!)nothing man make along ocean shore will last long. Just keep adding sand like on Waikiki 😅
Nope! Take a intro to geomorphology class in college. You'll learn wave processes and the causes of erosion. Building walls and seawalls along shores directly contribute to erosion.
Also need to plant native sea grass and other plant life to reduce erosion.
Not acceptable... beaches belong to everyone..
I’ve seen that happening to ALL the beaches on Maui since going there every few years since 2005, which was the first time we went. All of the beaches were pretty vast in ‘05 and now there’s nothing left of most of them. Something fishy is going on there (no pun intended), if you ask me
It's natural been going on for million + years.
@@robertcorrea557 I would agree if it hadn’t happened so quickly. This is a manufactured problem
@@user-cn5wv6mf4g A manufacturing problem. just remember it all starts just like the big island from lava rocks & the islands were a lot bigger than the big island. Just like anything else that gets old it breaks like glass.
@@robertcorrea557 but remember who we’re dealing with here. A bunch of globalists with a bullshit agenda of “climate change”. NOT! So they have to create it
?? The abandoned beachfront section of the hotel is NOT occupied, so what is the point of it being there, except wasting precious real estate... demolish the building and leave it as a beach for guests to enjoy, (build a protective wall if needed and stop whining about not having money to remove the abandoned building... we all know that resort has more money than God and there is no doubt the resort guests would much rather look out onto a beach, instead of that ugly abandoned section of the hotel.
Wait until Waikiki gets engulfed
Gueritos
Money make them do stupid things
Bottom line: these condo owners gambled and they lost. That’s the way the cookie crumbles.
If the government wants him to rebuild the building back farther in the beach, then the government should pay for it
It’s a public access to the ocean!
The building is actually protecting everything from further erosion.
Nonsense. Hard structures simply transfer the erosive energy down the beach
Build a man made reef out of concrete boulders like how they make a boat Marina then put the sand back. Cheaper than moving the complex
Wow.
Wonder what it cost to cover it turn in to splash window for balcony? Make see through just saying a wall that reflect the waves?
That’s not just erosion. It’s sea level rise.
Yep. By 2050, up to 40% of beaches on Oʻahu alone could be gone. People are truly underestimating what’s happening
No it's not, fool.
No it's not. I've been going to the same beach for 50 years and fishing off the same rocks. At 0 tide it's the same spot it's always been. Stop blaming rising oceans and put the blame were it belongs, on rising developments. Every building on the ocean that has a sea wal displaces the sand. #facts
@@garys2149 point taken. I hadn’t considered all of that.
Gotta understand guys land like this is millions of years old. It all starts like the big island from lava rocks & the islands were a lot bigger.
Ride the shore break right to your room.
It's very disrespectful to build too close to the ocean. You pay the price.
?? The abandoned beachfront section of the hotel is NOT occupied, so what is the point of it being there, except wasting precious real estate... demolish the building and leave it as a beach for guests to enjoy, (build a protective wall if needed and stop whining about not having money to remove the abandoned building... we all know that resort has more money than God and there is no doubt the resort guests would much rather look out onto a beach, instead of that ugly abandoned section of the hotel.)
There is a wall. That increased the erosion, moron.
Reporter's voice is irritating
The clear answer is to simply allow the ocean to swallow the building
Of course it’s gonna erode look at Kaanapali Beach. There was a lot more beach about 20, 30 years ago.
Get rid of that building that the water is crashing on and put some kind of wall there, better safe than sorry😷
Tear down the Hotel make it a public space. A Park to BBQ and look at the Ocean.
Why not put rocks or something in front?
Erosion is caused largely by rising sea levels....at least 25% of beaches worldwide are experiencing vast erosion. NASA has been tracking this for 30 years and it has been steadily increasing, so we are beginning to see what can happen and the predictions for the future are much worse if something does not change.
What do you expect, Waikiki is a man-made beach.
Yes. The sand was originally shipped in by barge from Manhattan Beach, CA.
And, this story is about Maui's beachfront .
The architiects didn't take erosion into the design process...stupid of them.
We stayed there in the 80's. What a shame
Oh my lord 😢
Rich people who move here 40 years ago WITH NO HAWAIIAN BLOOD cannot complain as well as the guy who moved here last week! That’s what happens when You want to play God on Hawaiian lands with money! Hawaiian people dont have the wealth to take lands back BUT We do get excited when natural disasters strike from Hurricane to lava flows!
I bet you drive on roads and highways built by America's federal government ? Does your imported vehicle have the sticker Hawaiian build ? As water levels rise and ground erosion continues to swallow the land , which as happened in other parts of the world islands totally underwater where would you go to live ? This is a much bigger problem that racism on who lived here first. Being you're claiming to be Hawaiian it should be heartbreaking the effects of global warming, water levels rising and ground erosion instead of being happy the land is being destroyed . You're hatred is stronger than your love for the Land where your ancestors are buried will one day be no more all will be underwater .May God save this land he blessed us with , we all who live her must not destroy her . God Bless Hawaii and his people and that includes you . Have a wonderful day in paradise our gift from God. We all bleed the same red blood here or in other lands . Also no one really owns anything, we leave this world how we entered with nothing. What goes with us is our hearts .
@@user-xl7kx7bi3l I was wondering when a Karen or Ken was about to chime in. First, everywhere near water You will have erosion, example:don’t build Your house on a volcano knowing it’s going to explode. Now, racism??? Everyone likes to talk a big game when Hawaiian people are fighting for what’s left of Our Birth lands.Ill give a example what racism is BUT ITS OK…
Wealthy land barons along with crooked little to non Hawaiian politicians.They Make shady deals and build 5 star resorts on Our ancestors bones to historic sacred churches. They then HIRE PEOPLE OVER SEAS for the high paying jobs and post Landscaping to dishwasher jobs here in Hawaii. These Resort Owners buy 30 homes near the hotel and stack all the over seas workers in there to save money and take Hawaiians home to jobs away. Born and raised I see this all the time BUT ITS OK?? Now when the native Hawaiian can’t afford, GUESS WHO BUYS HIS HOUSE?? he looses everything and moves to Vegas where most Hawaiians moved over time because of this injustice.But no one wants to address to elephant in the room because You want to stay at the 4 seasons this weekend.How’s that for racism! Push out Hawaiians through work force.
Hawaiians were once tourists too. Nobody gets to slam the barn door behind them bruh. The Hawaiian royalty freely gave ahupua’a to the newcomers in exchange for money, goods and services. The overthrow was reprehensible, but those guys are long gone. None of us living today did that. I hope if you decide to move away, you are not subjected to the same racist remarks you are using here.
@@merrywalsh2809 one way street You live on. Only over seas people which means Asians to Africans and anyone in between WITH NO ALOHA AND LIVE HERE will face repercussion.I know bad hearted Hawaiians that I’m related to belong in the volcano and Haoles with good hearts that understand and sympathize for Our history to culture can have my bed,my last meal and my shirt off my back! And that goes VISE VERSA! Now You say HAWAIIANS we’re tourists? So when You sail to America,Your labeled a “Discoverer” BUT Hawaiians sailed to Hawaii and We’re “Tourist”? A one way street!
@@merrywalsh2809 and Hawaiian royalty was BLIND BY THE WESTERN WAYS and were giving/trading away land as well as it was being taken FORCEFULLY. Not to mention almost all the Hawaiian royalty princesses married over seas and became “Bishop estate”.
Freeze Greenland and Antartica to stop the melt.
That what they get for building on the beach !!
Is it still standing after the fire?
Same thing with Hunakai in Kahala
Oh well.
Demolish this one..don't built another so close to the ocean
Demolish it and rebuilt it away from the ocean.
Sounds good, give me the money and we will do it.
The pacific plate is moving such as Kilauea coming to life again and a new volcano forming on the ocean floor. If Hawaii is affected then all of the other islands will be as well.
this is a horrible tragedy
Yes. Stabilize. Try national guard . It looks like a treasure.
😢
blaming the building is stupid...the rising oceantides are not the buildings fault, but keep the propaganda though
Kinda like Lanikai Beach..,...no more
Looks like Lanikai
Lol just raise the price. Tourist will eat it up waterfront property
Looks like a Great Spot for Beach Camping 😂⛺
Just let the ocean take it back.
Humans are oblivious to the power of nature.
Nature always wins
Bring in national guard pump sand from sand bar back up. Make it look like 1980 again.
I would love to jump in the ocean from my balconey as long as the ocean doesn't take the building.😮
Yes, the Erosion is mayjah!
*HELL, I WOULD PAY TO STAY THERE, HELL YEAH!!!*
*LEAVE IT!!!!*
I can't believe how shortsighted (aka stupid) & linear thinking engineers & developers are, they live in their own world of let's get rich now. Maui is a small island surrounded by the huge Pacific Ocean, scientists have been warning about beach erosion for sometime. Serves them right, or as some would say Hawaiian karma at work. Humans are no match for nature, we are like specs of sand!
Global warming! Lol. Kinda like building in a swamp.
They didn’t anticipate erosion? Lol.
Lol for real. Bunch of dummies. Build a hotel on a beach, what they expect. Ocean going come anyway
Did you see how fast it eroded? I've seen plenty of beach properties in Hawaii that were that close to the ocean in the early 2000s and they are still the same distance today. I may not be an erosion expert like you but that was fast lol
Lets build skyscrapers