I work almost nonstop and even with the first time drops, I am unable to make a purchase. Even if I am 10 minutes behind the drop, they are all sold out. Very frustrating but I understand. Kuddos to you for standing by your product and thank you for explaining your policies and for your transparency. I will keep trying! #goodwerks
I don't think I could ever get into business for myself because I'd struggle with some of the same concepts of obviously wanting/needing to make a living but also balancing it with a moral compass of wanting to make as much of a positive impact as possible with whatever product was made. Your personal choice to handle things the way you do with your business is incredibly refreshing to see. Reminds me of reading various articles about some of Yvon Chouinard's business practices with Patagonia. Regardless, good stuff dude. Excited to see the new ideas you'll whip up over the next year.
What a considerate human. Him letting little guys get thier first boogie bag is a big deal. I still don’t have a boogie bag. But that’s ok, I will someday.
Man I'm so down with this. It's about time creators take a hard stance against Drop Culture, and it makes me all the more interested to use your gear whenever I get the chance.
It's an unusual stance, but I've come to hate drop culture for the reason you stated so it makes sense to me. My biggest challenge is the best way to connect with a brand is to buy and use the product and I haven't been able to do that, which is frustrating.
Great video brother! I can’t stand the collective community. They’re all for the most part leaches who like you said buy for profit not for want. Not an owner of a Boogie yet but in time I will and have no problem waiting. Hopefully this video clarifies exactly why you have your policy to these ass clowns🤙🏻
I definitely have more than I need, and more than I could use. However, they rotate and get their use in time. Purchasing solely for making a profit is what gets me. If me being vocal about it causes those folks to lose interest, I'm happy to do it. Hope you get some goodwerks gear!
What if you put products on your site without giving any notice of “drops?” You could set limits with it, but it would mess with the “fast hand internet buyers.”
I do that as well. Not everything is a scheduled or planned drop. There are also donation gateway drops. I do the best I can to get products into different hands.
You can’t run a business and dismiss basic economics because “I don’t care about clout" and "my bags aren't for collecting". You don't get to decide what people do with your product once you've exchanged it for money. If you’ve created a great demand for your product, demand which you can’t keep up with(supply), then there WILL be second hand markup. If you don’t like this then expand your operation to increase supply. Having your product marked up with high demand is a good problem to have. Save your fcks for the people that get tired of waiting, steal your design, and then try and undercut you. THEN you’ve got a real problem. Banning someone for paying 2x or 3x because they’re so fond of your work is hardly “community first” IMO.
I'm not dismissing anything. What's being dismissed is that no business, no matter what, will never fulfill or satisfy the demands, needs, wants for or from everyone. I'm just making it well known which customers I want. It requires two people to participate in a transaction. Folks that know my policy (which is pretty easily accessible and there's no excuse for ignorance about it) are making a conscious decision to go against what I've laid out in order to participate with my business. To me, that's a sure sign of disrespect and I'm not concerned about having those folks in the goodwerks community. Communities are groups of like-minded people. So yes, I put the goodwerks community first. Not others.
@@treadthouboldly you can’t satisfy the needs and wants of everyone but expanding beyond producing every product yourself is a start! If you really were in this line of work to share your work with as many like minded people then you’d delegate on production and stop scolding your customers that are turning to the second hand market because YOU can’t keep up. It’s a business production issue not a customer issue. You said it yourself- you’re covering 100% of your business operation end to end. At the very least, if you insist on laying down every stitch, you could hire help for the business side so you could focus on making more product. But I can tell you, your current attitude towards the buying and selling of your product is not a good look, and is not going to get your business very far.
@@jasandper - I generally find that friction with myself/goodwerks and folks is caused by one of two things: an understanding of the intent behind my policies, or a foundational disagreement with how I do things. Either way, the information is out there. If you still disagree, that's fine. "Vote with your dollars," as they say. I don't think you've got an understanding of either myself of my business. Can I fault you for that? Partially. I'm very transparent with where I aim to take my business. If you had bothered to do your due diligence you'd be well aware that I am working (and have been working) at increasing production. This includes the goal of having a proper workshop and adding staff this coming year. You have zero insight into my business dynamics, the rate at which I plan to scale, so on. Whether or not you think how I treat secondhand sales, er... gouging, is a "good look" or not, doesn't confront me.
Although your premise and intentions seem well intended, your actions are flawed. If you want people to buy your bags, make it easier for them to buy them. Change how you drop your products. Continuing on the same path, you will continue to create a divisive community of Has and Has Nots. The Has will always over charge when they sell to the Has Nots. I have chosen not to play in your community. I can respect your work ethics and the challenges you face as a small maker, but this video is simply a soapbox stance with little acknowledgment of the problems and solution.
You're right. I haven't discussed the various methods I've used to get bags into the hands of others. Like gateway donation drops, first time buyer drops, so on. There's only so much I can do to get bags into the hands of new folks, and folks who will actually put their gear to use. There are methods that have been suggested to me (raffle, pre-order) that do not make sense for me to implement due to the time it takes or how I want to run my business. All of us have flawed actions.
Absolutely ridiculous that you had to make this video. People are scummy. Hit the nail on the head about the community part. A community that has individuals that intentionally benefit off the net loss of other members is no community at all.
I work almost nonstop and even with the first time drops, I am unable to make a purchase. Even if I am 10 minutes behind the drop, they are all sold out. Very frustrating but I understand. Kuddos to you for standing by your product and thank you for explaining your policies and for your transparency. I will keep trying! #goodwerks
I know it can be super frustrating, Sarah. I appreciate your persistence. I hope you get one for sure.
I feel you on working non-stop. I'm happy to get what I can. :)
I don't think I could ever get into business for myself because I'd struggle with some of the same concepts of obviously wanting/needing to make a living but also balancing it with a moral compass of wanting to make as much of a positive impact as possible with whatever product was made. Your personal choice to handle things the way you do with your business is incredibly refreshing to see. Reminds me of reading various articles about some of Yvon Chouinard's business practices with Patagonia. Regardless, good stuff dude. Excited to see the new ideas you'll whip up over the next year.
Appreciate it, Tara! Thank you!
I respect and support your business!!!
Thanks so much, Jin!
Subscribed! Thanks for everything you do!
What a considerate human. Him letting little guys get thier first boogie bag is a big deal. I still don’t have a boogie bag. But that’s ok, I will someday.
I definitely hope you get one someday too, Matt. It's not about "big" or "little." It's about folks that want to get the gear to use it, getting it.
Hell yes to ALL OF THIS. Mad respect.
Thank you, Frank.
Love and appreciate your authenticity
Appreciate it, Anthony.
Right on!!! Good to hear from you bro….need to have some more chats with everyone like from old fashioned Fridays!
YES. I've got an idea for a Zoom social deal soon.
Love it. Creating great products and standing up for what you believe.
The only way.
I dig it. The word is "rent seeking". We have a lot of people causing a lot of problems around the world with rent seeking.
Ah ha. Thanks a great term. Thanks for the enlightenment, John.
Love this. 🐐
Love my bag, it’s my adventure staple.
Stoked to hear that, Luis.
Really inspiring! Keep it up! 💜💜
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Man I'm so down with this. It's about time creators take a hard stance against Drop Culture, and it makes me all the more interested to use your gear whenever I get the chance.
I don't think it's against the "drop" culture, per se. But definitely against taking advantage of others.
It's an unusual stance, but I've come to hate drop culture for the reason you stated so it makes sense to me. My biggest challenge is the best way to connect with a brand is to buy and use the product and I haven't been able to do that, which is frustrating.
Frustrating for me too, Blaine. I assure you, I do the best I can to get products into the hands of new folks.
Love this, homie.
Appreciate it. 🤙
Mad respect.
🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
Great video brother! I can’t stand the collective community. They’re all for the most part leaches who like you said buy for profit not for want. Not an owner of a Boogie yet but in time I will and have no problem waiting. Hopefully this video clarifies exactly why you have your policy to these ass clowns🤙🏻
I definitely have more than I need, and more than I could use. However, they rotate and get their use in time. Purchasing solely for making a profit is what gets me. If me being vocal about it causes those folks to lose interest, I'm happy to do it. Hope you get some goodwerks gear!
This is awesome to see! I love gear and hate scalpers. Keep it up!
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What if you put products on your site without giving any notice of “drops?”
You could set limits with it, but it would mess with the “fast hand internet buyers.”
I do that as well. Not everything is a scheduled or planned drop. There are also donation gateway drops. I do the best I can to get products into different hands.
You can’t run a business and dismiss basic economics because “I don’t care about clout" and "my bags aren't for collecting". You don't get to decide what people do with your product once you've exchanged it for money. If you’ve created a great demand for your product, demand which you can’t keep up with(supply), then there WILL be second hand markup. If you don’t like this then expand your operation to increase supply. Having your product marked up with high demand is a good problem to have. Save your fcks for the people that get tired of waiting, steal your design, and then try and undercut you. THEN you’ve got a real problem. Banning someone for paying 2x or 3x because they’re so fond of your work is hardly “community first” IMO.
I'm not dismissing anything. What's being dismissed is that no business, no matter what, will never fulfill or satisfy the demands, needs, wants for or from everyone. I'm just making it well known which customers I want. It requires two people to participate in a transaction. Folks that know my policy (which is pretty easily accessible and there's no excuse for ignorance about it) are making a conscious decision to go against what I've laid out in order to participate with my business. To me, that's a sure sign of disrespect and I'm not concerned about having those folks in the goodwerks community. Communities are groups of like-minded people. So yes, I put the goodwerks community first. Not others.
@@treadthouboldly you can’t satisfy the needs and wants of everyone but expanding beyond producing every product yourself is a start! If you really were in this line of work to share your work with as many like minded people then you’d delegate on production and stop scolding your customers that are turning to the second hand market because YOU can’t keep up. It’s a business production issue not a customer issue. You said it yourself- you’re covering 100% of your business operation end to end. At the very least, if you insist on laying down every stitch, you could hire help for the business side so you could focus on making more product. But I can tell you, your current attitude towards the buying and selling of your product is not a good look, and is not going to get your business very far.
@@jasandper - I generally find that friction with myself/goodwerks and folks is caused by one of two things: an understanding of the intent behind my policies, or a foundational disagreement with how I do things. Either way, the information is out there. If you still disagree, that's fine. "Vote with your dollars," as they say. I don't think you've got an understanding of either myself of my business. Can I fault you for that? Partially. I'm very transparent with where I aim to take my business. If you had bothered to do your due diligence you'd be well aware that I am working (and have been working) at increasing production. This includes the goal of having a proper workshop and adding staff this coming year. You have zero insight into my business dynamics, the rate at which I plan to scale, so on. Whether or not you think how I treat secondhand sales, er... gouging, is a "good look" or not, doesn't confront me.
Although your premise and intentions seem well intended, your actions are flawed. If you want people to buy your bags, make it easier for them to buy them. Change how you drop your products. Continuing on the same path, you will continue to create a divisive community of Has and Has Nots. The Has will always over charge when they sell to the Has Nots. I have chosen not to play in your community. I can respect your work ethics and the challenges you face as a small maker, but this video is simply a soapbox stance with little acknowledgment of the problems and solution.
You're right. I haven't discussed the various methods I've used to get bags into the hands of others. Like gateway donation drops, first time buyer drops, so on. There's only so much I can do to get bags into the hands of new folks, and folks who will actually put their gear to use. There are methods that have been suggested to me (raffle, pre-order) that do not make sense for me to implement due to the time it takes or how I want to run my business.
All of us have flawed actions.
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Great video; let's get that white boogie bag dirty! 😄
It's dirty. Tough to see in the video, but it's certainly not-so-white anymore.
Fuck Yes Brotha ! Love your no BS ! 👊🏽🍻🤘🏽
I've never been one to sugarcoat things.
@@treadthouboldly always the best way to be, I’m the same way regardless of the “trouble” my no BS personality gets me into 🤘🏽
Well said! Now, please ship to Australia!😆
Craig, you can purchase on drops and have product shipped via proxy. Folks do it regularly.
@@treadthouboldly I shall search for a proxy candidate!
Brother, you just got a customer in me. I love the attitude and respect the fuck out of you for taking this stance.
Thanks, Stephen. Hope you snag a Boogie!
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Hope to snag a boogie eventually, how about another donation drop!
I hope you snag one too, Travis. There will be more donation gateway drops in the future.
Because ‘Merica!!!
The place where I live provides me an opportunity many others don't to make a living by my own terms. I'm grateful for it.
Howdy 🇺🇸
Yee-haw.
Absolutely ridiculous that you had to make this video. People are scummy. Hit the nail on the head about the community part. A community that has individuals that intentionally benefit off the net loss of other members is no community at all.
I definitely didn't "have to." Many makers experience the same things I do. I felt compelled. Hopefully it brings to light some perspective.