3 Months with Avid MBOX Studio!

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  • Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
  • Pushing the Avid MBOX Studio interface for 3 months What did I learn?
    Would I recommend it?

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  • @JustifiedHope
    @JustifiedHope 7 днів тому

    This was awesome. Thank you!

    • @musicalthingsTD
      @musicalthingsTD  4 дні тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! Well over a year with the MBOX and its been rock solid.

  • @jdub70
    @jdub70 Рік тому +6

    Fantastic video Todd and killer chops!! 🎸🔥🔥 MBOX Studio does indeed use the same mic pre-amps as Pro Tools Carbon. I’m really happy you’re diggin’ it! 🤩💯

    • @musicalthingsTD
      @musicalthingsTD  Рік тому +2

      Thank you for the comment and the compliment. I was really curious about the pre's Avid was using, I could not tell any differences between the RME or the Avid. The ability to run my outboard gear through a dedicated FX send/return that can be switched from line to instrument level has really opened up some possibilities I haven't been able to do with any other usb interfaces.

  • @JudgeFredd
    @JudgeFredd 27 днів тому

    The best gear i've bought for a while especially with the PT Perpetual offer

    • @musicalthingsTD
      @musicalthingsTD  27 днів тому +1

      Well over a year with mine and everything Ive thrown at it has worked flawlessly. Have a Black Lion Revolution EXP connected through ADAT to the MBOX and it covers about 90% of my tracking needs. When I purchased mine they were offering a year of subscription PT that was ok since I already had a subscription it gave me a free year I'll grab Perpetual once this subscription ends.

  • @jomigue
    @jomigue 2 місяці тому

    Thank you! Great video!

    • @musicalthingsTD
      @musicalthingsTD  2 місяці тому

      Glad you liked it! Waiting on my Black Lion Revolution EXP to get here so I can expand the MBox I/O. I'll do an update and show some other things I've been doing with the MBOX once the BL Rev EXP arrives.
      Thanks for the comments I really appreciate them.

  • @lexlux777
    @lexlux777 9 місяців тому +1

    It's a great interface, indeed! Bought it today and I love it. Coming from UAD and the Arrow, and using it with a splitted guitar signal going in both into the Mbox for DI and Fractal's FM3 for latency free heavy guitars. Recording both on a single track in Reaper. Effing love it!

    • @musicalthingsTD
      @musicalthingsTD  9 місяців тому

      Yes it is a very good Interface, I've been using it pretty much full time.
      My main interface is an RME UFX II and now only reason to use the RME is if I'm tracking a whole band or orchestral tracking where I'd need 16 or more tracks at one time. I have a tracking session with a full band later next week and I'm going to use the Mbox ADAT into my RME 12-D mic pre's and see how it goes. I'm sure there will be no issues. If I come across any I'll post them.
      Thanks for the comments Really glad your liking the Mbox Studio.

  • @elijahmant2855
    @elijahmant2855 7 місяців тому +1

    Hey, thanks for your solid, and detailed video, Man. I'm a long time Motu 2408 Mk3 user and I'm contemplating upgrading to : RME, or this MBox Studio.

    • @musicalthingsTD
      @musicalthingsTD  7 місяців тому

      I've used RME the longest when I'm doing larger projects I usually went for my RME Fireface UFX II along with a 12 mic D. But lately, I ADAT the 12 mic D into the MBOX without any issues. A few years ago RME converters were some of the best around and I had no issues what so ever with their drivers, today things have changed even cheap interfaces sound really good. The MBOX doesn't use drivers and has the carbon pre's in it. I lose some pre's using the MBOX that's when the 12 mic D comes in, but majority of time I'm using maybe 4 condenser mics at one time the rest are dynamic's no need for 48v phantom power so I use inputs 5 and 6 on the MBOX for the dynamic mics if more are needed ADAT the 12 mic D all is good. I've tracked drums with 6 mics using just the MBOX. The tracks went to post no complaints and they were used for the project. Of course the room and mics used along with placement play the biggest role. In today's world I would save the 1,600$ extra for UFX II or the extra 800$ for the UCX II than what the MBOX sells for, put the saved funds to mics and maybe plugins. RME make some of the best recording equipment out there but the need for that has diminished to the point the cost isn't justified unless it's for a large production studio. We can do almost anything in our small studios and much less expensive equipment and sound just as good as anything being produced. Most stuff is listened to on our phones and ear buds maybe on car stereo nobody can tell what the music is recorded with, nor do they care. If it sounds good, it is good!
      That's my opinion after using RME for well over 5 years and my experience with the MBOX for almost a year now.
      Hopefully this helps.
      Thanks for the comment they are appreciated very much.

    • @elijahmant2855
      @elijahmant2855 7 місяців тому

      Thanks ever so much, Todd for your interesting and informative reply. I do apprecilike and respect your opinion. I had heard that what little I know of the converters in the Xbox are the same as their carbon interfaces. Mmmmm, I wonder. Big big attraction of course. Either way, you keep up the good works telling it as it is. Again, thanks, Man. @@musicalthingsTD

  • @thewilsmithevo4921
    @thewilsmithevo4921 9 місяців тому

    reallly loved your video, trying to decide if buy this one or apollo twin

    • @musicalthingsTD
      @musicalthingsTD  9 місяців тому

      I had the Apollo twin for about 7 months it was a nice interface. Unfortunately the Apollo twin and my Windows pc's never played well together, not with thunderbolt or usb-c. I hear now they have gotten much better. The Mbox Studio has never had any issues. Plugged it in updated firmware, and almost a year now, not 1 hiccup.
      The Mbox for my situation is the better interface, but I like to re-amp and have quite a bit of outboard hardware, preamps, compressors, EQ's even guitar pedals it was easier to intigrate the hardware on Mbox due to the dedicated FX send/ returns.
      I hope this helps and doesn't make the decision-making any harder.
      Thank you for the comments.

  • @molochfrolics8443
    @molochfrolics8443 3 місяці тому

    gotta get me one of these. Vox & git sound superb. more WICKED RIFF,S & SICK LICKS next time lplz.

    • @musicalthingsTD
      @musicalthingsTD  3 місяці тому

      Thanks for the comment, I'm finishing some new songs I've written recently I'll post some of the riffs for them. The MBOX has turned out to be a great investment, the reamp function has been awesome, it's a true work horse interface.

  • @KWM1972
    @KWM1972 2 місяці тому

    I am considering this interface i really like the pro tools bundle that comes with it. but i was concerned with the quality of the preamps and converters, i use apogee interface. you just might have answered my question since you cant hear the difference between this and the R M E stuff. Thanks i subscribed and look forward to more content. have a great one 🎸 oh yea thats a beautiful Earnie Ball Cutlass behind ya too 🎸

    • @musicalthingsTD
      @musicalthingsTD  2 місяці тому

      The MBOX has the Carbon pre's in it the same ones Avid use in all their high end gear they are great pre's, I have had no issues with them and I can't tell the difference between any of my RME gear. I actually just sold the Ernie Ball Cutlass, I have a Sabre also and the Cutlass just didn't get played anymore, so I sold it and got another Gibson LP for the studio ,the Gibson LP's and the PRS 594 have been the choice for almost everyone tracking here and I'm partial to LP's my dad was a studio musician and it's what he used. Thanks for the comment. I really appreciate it.

  • @musicalthingsTD
    @musicalthingsTD  5 місяців тому

    When you get your MBOX you will go to Avid website register it, once registered in your account on Avid website it will have everything there so if you get the Perpetual license it will be there DL it and your all set.

  • @KitoRodriguez
    @KitoRodriguez 8 місяців тому

    Going to order one. I just sold my Apollo Twin Quad MKII. AVID = going after UAD with knives, spears and big GUNS with this!

    • @musicalthingsTD
      @musicalthingsTD  8 місяців тому +1

      I appreciate the comment, I wanted so much to keep my Apollo Twin but had issues on the PC's when using thunderbolt connection dang drivers constantly not recognizing or having to reinstall them, I'm sure it's a Windows issue but cant have that happening when musicians are ready to go. Avid did a great job with the Mbox Studio no drivers needed just firmware update when you first plug it up, it has been running flawless on Mac and PC's in every DAW used, probably the best small studio interface I've ever worked with, i'ts not that small actually! Recently did a large tracking project and used the Mbox for everything, a Brass section Trumpet, Trombone, Saxophone a String section with Cello, Violins, Guitars Harps, Piano, upright Bass, Drums, Vocals. I used the ADAT in from an RME 12 D mic preamp when we needed more pre's and not 1 hiccup it worked great. Getting close to a full year with the Mbox now and it's never failed or had any issues and 80% of all that use has been on PC's Windows 11. Only RME has had that kind of stability on Windows for me. Hope you enjoy your Mbox Studio if your a guitarist you'll LOVE it. If you use any ribbon mics try out the Hi-Z to give different character to the mic that simple feature made a huge difference on my last session.
      Thank you.
      Have fun.

    • @KitoRodriguez
      @KitoRodriguez 8 місяців тому

      @@musicalthingsTD Thanks for the vote of confidence! My MBOX Studio is on its way from Vintage King Audio in Burbank as we speak! Got it at " Demo Deal" price for a steal at $649. I cant wait to dig into it after sweating about buying another UAD product. Hardware so expensive without all of the features I actually need as a producer and performer. Now they are moving to "Native" plugins and blowing them out similar to Waves. Giving away LA2A for free (which is what I use most from their ecosystem). I absolutely hated Pro Tools and Digidesign/AVID after not getting support in the form of updated MBOX Pro drivers in the past, the switch to Pro Tools subscription only models, etc. But I am back to the MBOX will be using it with Logic and Ableton Live primarily, will get with Pro Tools if any Post audio gigs com in as we know, PT is indispensable for film work. The hardware has always been great with the exception of updates etc. So still a little skeptical but at this price point, I cant resist, the features of this new MBOX blows everything else clear out of the water. Seems like they have some new "young blood" in the development dept. With Bluetooth and iOS compliance, the future is finally here.

  • @no1semach1ne
    @no1semach1ne 5 місяців тому

    Just set mine up yesterday , I was hesitant coming from Apollo x4 but honestly this blows uad out of the water in my opinion.

    • @musicalthingsTD
      @musicalthingsTD  5 місяців тому +1

      Make sure to get your perpetual Pro Tools DL. If you bought it recently, Avid was bundling a perpetual license with it now, instead of the subscription, don't know how long that's going on. The MBOX has really changed my work flow in small projects everything works all the time. No drivers, no usb or thunderbolt issues a true plug -n- play product. The pre's are really good. A great investment for me especially for the price. I don't have anything under a thousand dollars that can come close to it!

    • @no1semach1ne
      @no1semach1ne 5 місяців тому

      @@musicalthingsTD I had bought a perpetual license a few months ago when they re introduced them , so now I have an additional license lol , I wish I would of noticed the bundle initially

    • @freeasabird6799
      @freeasabird6799 5 місяців тому

      im looking at an Apollo x8 and this avid studio, what do you like better about this over Apollo? Apollo so much more $ so thought it must have better conversion

    • @no1semach1ne
      @no1semach1ne 5 місяців тому

      @@freeasabird6799 I honestly have to say the mbox punches its weight with the apollos

    • @musicalthingsTD
      @musicalthingsTD  5 місяців тому

      Lot of variables there! If your using a mac the x8 works great, if on a PC not so much even if you have thunderbolt on the PC the drivers don't work well, when you turn on the Apollo x8, 9 out of 10 times it requires a restart of the PC. This drove me crazy and was why I went to RME Fireface UFXII for the professional studio environment where I'm tracking many different things and my clients pay the bills. The x8 does have some of the best converters made. It has DSP and on older computers was needed, but in todays world with the computers we run DSP means nothing. I would wait until after winter NAMM see what UA comes out with before spending the money if nothing changes and your in a professional environment go look at RME interfaces after hundreds of sessions not once has the UFXII failed or not worked and it has drivers but RME drivers can't be beat by any other company there is. Now if your in a small studio or a home environment I would either go with the MBOX or maybe the RME UCXII The MBOX does not use drivers and will work every time no matter what type computer or DAW you are using. Can I hear the differences in converters in any of these interfaces not 1 bit neither can anyone else. Only when doing true measuring tests will there be any evidence of a difference and those are so small it really doesn't matter but in the real world nobody can tell nor do they care. Most music is being listened to on ear buds a phone or in the car. I've listened to all of these interfaces on ATMOS systems and couldn't tell what interface was used. Of course I'm not a fan of ATMOS unless it's in a cinematic environment then it makes sense but in music it's a waste of resources and money. For the money and bang for buck and for a small or home studio the MBOX beats everything has a few Carbon Pre's you can go 8 inputs 4 of which has 48v phantom power has digital ADAT in and out and the converters sound great 2 headphone outputs NO drivers to mess with or cause any issues and has never failed or glitched on any DAW or computer I use with over 100 sessions and a little over a year now. I've tracked full bands done a few orchestral sessions with the MBOX of course I used ADAT from my RME 12 pre for the extra needed pre's but there was never a problem and never has mastering mentioned anything about converters being used or quality of the sessions from the MBOX. All in all the MBOX is one of the best studio investments I've ever made. This has been my experience hope it helps.@@freeasabird6799

  • @davidfabien7220
    @davidfabien7220 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for the info. I wish they also made a smaller, much cheaper version like the former AVID M Box but with the same preamps and converters as in the M Box Studio. My AVID M Box still works fine on Windows 7 and also on Windows 11 in Protools version 9.0.6 but my recordings consist of only two tracks. But Protools version 9.0.6 is not compatible with Windows 10. Although not at all an advanced user I like the setup of the Protools DAW, it's intuitive and user friendly, it's all before your very eyes.

    • @musicalthingsTD
      @musicalthingsTD  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for the comment, When I purchased the Mbox Studio was thinking it was a little spendy but I've been using RME interfaces and anything from RME will cost a pretty penny so for over a hundred dollars cheaper than my Baby Face Pro FS which is a great portable interface, I was thinking if it does what they claimed the pricing on the Mbox Studio wasn't too bad. Plus I got a free year of Pro Tools Studio with the Mbox purchase, don't know if they are still doing the Pro Tools deal or not but that saved me from having to renew my subscription for Pro Tools. Now that Avid has reinstated perpetual licensing when my free year is up I'll go to that. On a side note the Mbox has held it's own against the RME stuff and am very pleased with it.

    • @davidfabien7220
      @davidfabien7220 8 місяців тому

      @@musicalthingsTD Thank you very much for your response. Enjoy both of your audio interfaces. Have a nice week. Happy recording!

  • @Globelocker
    @Globelocker 8 місяців тому

    up me dan

  • @croakingembryo
    @croakingembryo Рік тому

    Avid support is the worst. They don't even bother with driver updates to fix widespread problems. It might work for now but next time you update your windows it could become a brick and they won't care. Be warned.

    • @musicalthingsTD
      @musicalthingsTD  Рік тому +1

      You are correct. Avid was horrible with their support for the longest time, but the world of production moved forward and is no longer proprietary to software or hardware. With all the small studios and home studios doing what we do in them, using the DAW's and hardware available now and most of the big label studios going bye bye because they are no longer needed. To stay relevant in the game Avid is forced to rethink and restructure their mode of operandi. Guess we'll see!

    • @jdub70
      @jdub70 Рік тому +3

      The MBOX Studio is class compliant on Mac and uses industry standard Thesycon drivers on Windows so no custom drivers to update. It also works with all DAWs, not just Pro Tools.

    • @musicalthingsTD
      @musicalthingsTD  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for that info, John. "We have an MBOX expert here!" I know who I'm going to if I have any issues with the MBOX. I've personally had it work in every major DAW out there. On a side note, Pro Tools has really stepped up their game especially in support. Plus, when I purchased the MBOX Studio it came with a year subscription of Pro Tools Studio although I had a subscription it's nice to have a free year.

    • @croakingembryo
      @croakingembryo Рік тому

      @@jdub70 You still need Mbox Control to set your interface preferences.That's proprietary software.

    • @jdub70
      @jdub70 Рік тому +1

      @@croakingembryo That is correct, but it does not require it to physically work and be recognized by the computer as a valid I/O.