Five Have Fallen, One Is (Rev 17)
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Revelation speaks of seven kings, and the sixth one is in power at the time the book was written. Let's look at who this historic figure is.
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Blessed teaching!❤
Very good.
Thank you!!!!
When these truths come to light, it seems so obvious. I can’t understand how people would not understand the dating of Revelation?
Really enjoyed this teaching thanks
Good study 👍
The Plots of the Wicked always fails!!!
Gematria is used in the English language as well for base cipher’s are English forward, then backwards and forwards and backwards with numerology applied and the Jesuit order very much uses them in all their schemes
Why do full preterists never talk about the 8th king who goes into perdition? Who is he? Do Galba, Otho, and Vitellus all count as the 7th with Vespasian as the 8th? Is Vespasian considered part of the 7th and Titus as the 8th? How does FP reconcile the 8th king who goes to perdition?
What is your take?
@@debblouin I believe that Galba, Otho, and Vitellus collectively are the 7th which coincides with Daniel 7:8. Vespasian would be the 8th that goes into perdition. He becomes the emperor and sends Titus to Jerusalem to finish the campaign. Personally, I think there is strong evidence that suggests that Revelation goes to at least the time of Constantine. The ten horns of the beast that make war against the saints are the 10 Roman emperors who had more widespread persecution against Christians. This started with Nero and ended with Diocletian. The beast (Rome) was thrown into the LOF when Constantine won the battle at Melvian Bridge. The Edict of Milan then ended all persecution. The beast was dead. Later, Christianity became the official religion of the empire and was allowed to spread beyond the borders of the empire. I am not a FP, so I believe that the kingdom is still growing and there will be a final return and resurrection.
I believe we are in the short season mentioned in Rev 20:7
I clicked on this video bc the word Berean made me think it would be solid biblical teaching. It didn’t take but a few minutes to realize my mistake.
Just because Philip shaff is confused confounded in mislead because he doesn't have the guidance for the Holy Spirit does not mean that those manuscripts are worthless
He wasn't speaking of manuscripts, he was speaking of the crazy interpretations people have on the topic.
Seven 1k yr days, the seals,
seven headed dragon, Satan(a power and a principality) reared his ugly head seven times,
5 loaves and 2 fishes, God gave his laws (unleavened bread) to 5k years of man and Jesus died to give us the New Testament 2k years ago (meat, fish) to bind all scripture together,
Rev 17:10 (KJV). In the time of John five kings had fallen, (five seals) and that makes the seal he is in the sixth seal, leaving only one seal (the seventh) left, the one we are in.
We are at the end of our time on this earth, 13 … and in the earthquake were slain of men SEVEN THOUSAND: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. Rev 11:13 (KJV).
The 1k year reign was in heaven with those that were “caught up” with Jesus at the first resurrection, the thief on the cross being one of them, he did not “sleep in the lord”, he was in paradise that day.
Amen
Honorable romans. Oxymoron 😅
I've heard this interpretation, essentially the Preterist view, so many times. And it doesn't get any more logical than the first time.
1. John didn't write/compose this book. He merely wrote down what he'd seen and heard. So, any arguements stating that John was writing in code to prevent repercussions, are not sustainable.
2. The supposition that the phrase, 'five have fallen, one is, and the other must come for a little while', is alluding to Nero is also illogical. For the simple reason that any contemporary reader would already know who 'the one is', the current Caesar's name and identity. And of 'the other must come for a little while', so what? There were many Caesars after Nero.
3. The translation of Rev 13:18 as 'a man' is not fitting the context. Since, the Greek word is 'anthropos' which, depending on the context, is man, mankind, humankind. And the subject of this phrase is the beast 'out of the sea' (out of the sea of Gentile nations) of Rev 13:1-2, and which is shown to be the lineage of Gentile kingdoms, as revealed in Daniel; Babylon, Medo/Persia, Greece and Rome. So, the context reveals it to be man, as in mankind. And not 'a man' singular.
4. Rev 1:19, ' Therefore write what you saw, what is, and WHAT WILL BE after these things.'
I could go on with more examples. My point is that I'd urge you to have a complete rethink, rather than believe the erroneous tradition.
Elaborate on your contention for point three.
If the “beast” is a leader or representative of a nation then that would be a singular man. That translation would be supported by the use of the reflexive pronoun in the same verse.
I don't fully understand point one. There are instances in revelation were John writes something down pertaining to his experience and not merely just what he saw.
@@RedDevilStudio Yes, good point. Like where he said he was astonished when he saw the woman in chapter 17. But I don't his writing extends to himself making up codes or composing the puzzle of the number of his/its name. The NIV uses 'it's'. Cheers
@@debblouin
Interestingly, the NIV translation uses 'it/its' in Rev 13. While the New English Translation (NET) starts with 'it/its' and then changes to 'he/him' halfway through the chapter.
Rev 13:3 'One of the beast’s heads appeared to have been killed, but the lethal wound had been healed'. Though, I understand your point of a nation being represented by its leader. This is clearly about a kingdom as heads are symbolic of empires/kingdoms. And in those times, represented by a king.
This is a reference to a resurrected kingdom, Rev 17:8, 'which once was (at the time of John's writing, now is not (also at the time of John's writing), but would come again'.
It is further referenced as resurrected kingdom by being assigned the number 'eight', Rev 17:11, 'The beast that was, and is not, is himself an eighth king and yet is one of the seven, and is going to destruction.' The number eight in scripture is the number for 'resurrection'; the eighth day is first day of the resurrected week, etc.
It is emphasised again that it is a resurrected kingdom when Rev 13:3 says, 'One of the beast’s heads appeared to have been killed, but the lethal wound had been healed. Also, Rev 13:12, 'He exercised all the ruling authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and those who inhabit it worship the first beast, the one whose lethal wound had been healed.' It was mortally wounded, killed. And was resurrected.
The kingdom which was referenced in these passages is Babel. The wound which Babel received by the sword, the Word of God, was the wound of their dispersion, when God went down and saw their unity as one in rebellion, where God said, "If they be unified like this as one, nothing will be impossible for them". God then dispersed man/mankind to the four corners of the earth.
Mankind is back. His wound of dispersion has been healed. And he is back seeking unity as one world in rebellion to God and his appointed Saviour. This is the 'little horn' or antichrist, which starts out small among the the other ten horns/toes/kings (kingdoms) but grows to take over the whole world. It begins as an eleventh horn, displaces three others, thereby becoming an eighth or resurrected kingdom as that which was at Babel/Bavel/Babylon. Cheers
Try Jacob Prasch. Then compare to what you hear here...
There is possibly a double fulfillment. One at their time and one future. But no way could all of revelation be fulfilled around 70 ad. Who’s the eighth king? Where is Jesus ruling for a 1000 years? Where is the mark that you can’t buy or sell? Where is the image that is able to speak and causes people to be killed? And on and on. False teaching to say that revelation is in the past and there is no future fulfillment.
Multiple fulfillments..
The book of Revelations was written concerning the last days, not what was going on during the time John was living. To believe that the Seventh king or kingdom would be around for nearly two thousand years is ridiculous. Rome is not the final kingdom nor is the Pope the Beast.
And you people call yourselves, BEREAN??
The last days of what?
Perhaps you could document the name "Revelation," correctly. Revelation is singular.
I agree. What about the trumpets and bowl judgments?
@@girnucci they are not literal trumpets or bowls