The Manchurian Candidate - Original vs Remake
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- We watched the Denzel Washington remake of the Manchurian Candidate and everybody said we HAD to watch the original starring Frank Sinatra and Angela Lansbury. So we did. Was it better? Was it different? Was it worth it?
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You can't even compare one film with the other. The original is a complete masterpiece and the remake is a forgatten good film
If I may say, IF the earlier version seemed to drag, it may be because now everything is quick, quick, instant imaging etc, if that makes sense. Also, I've thought about the mother kissing her son scene (which I actually didn't remember) and I think it fit with her speech about how they chose him to keep her with the program, and remember she said "I'll get back at them for this." and it just showed her obsessiveness with her son. Plus, just to show what a fanatical, wicked cold person she was.
I remember it as a garden club meeting, not a church service. One more thing: about erasing history. What will the end up allowing in the history books?
The pacing with older films is sometimes a struggle for me. Two movies that I like are Stripes and Ghostbusters, but even movies from the early 80s have a slow pace that makes it tough for me.
If you want to know why the mother kissed her son, it's because the movie is actually based on a book, and in the book it's very clear the mother has an incestuous relationship with her son, and at the time with censorship they felt to be true to the book they wanted to hint at the incestuous relationship without actually confirming or showing it. I think it was also not just to be true to the book, but also because those making the movie really wanted to show how creepy the character was. I think they also felt like they wanted to confuse people more since it is a psychological thriller, and a certain amount of confusion can add to the feeling of being off balance. But I will also agree with everyone that it probably would have been better to leave it out if they weren't going to expound on it because it was more distracting than creepy.
I agree about pacing. I originally saw the original back when ALL of TV was slower paced, and it felt perfectly paced to me at the time, but now that I am used to faster paced movies it does feel slower in comparison. The ratio of the pacing feels way better to me in the original, though. They gave the significant moments enough time to breathe and make an impact. But I will agree that while I didn't feel it back in the old days, there is a part of me that probably would prefer the original to pick up the overall pacing while still allowing the key moments to breathe.
@@hollybigelow5337I agree that they probably shouldn't have added the mom kissing then looking at her son in a "he's attractive" manner. If they were gonna add that part, they should've added it sooner and put more detail about the relationship. Just putting that one scene in there throws off the audience! Either add more of that relationship into the movie, or don't show that at all!
The original is my top 10 favorite movie list. The remake not so much. Heck, I read the book to find any trace of Roger Ebert’s weird theory on the movie storyline (there wasn’t).
Ebert sent you on a wild goose chase. 😀
When the Denzel Washington remake came out, Haliburton and other "contractors" were working with the US Defence Department in Iraq and Afghanistan and they were also heavily involved "advising" the Bush administration - so it was NOT a stretch of the imagination to believe that "Manchurian Global" (Haliburton) might want to influence the US Presidential election...
As someone born after the original was released and who read the book, BOTH are based in US Paranoia about the "Communist Menace". I can never go along with any story that suggests that Joe McCarthy was right....
It's 4 years since this was posted, so probably no one will read this - but FWIW here goes.
In the book (which BTW has some very black humor), there's a backstory for Raymond's mother and stepfather, who are both pretty twisted. The film wanted to show some of that without spending a lot of time on exposition which would slow down the story; so they threw in the "Kiss" scene as a way to show just how weird she is, and by implication how weird Raymond is from being raised by her.
Note - an example of the black humor - Johnny earned a Purple Heart in WWII for a wound suffered in action. He cut his foot when he kicked a naked Eskimo woman in the face.
Haha, that Eskimo thing is hilarious. Sounds like the book had a bit more off beat humor than the film.
The story and the acting outweigh special effects.
Okay Carolyn, I'm about to ask you a very serious question. Think carefully. Which movie did you enjoy more, The original Machurian Candidate, or Jaws?
Totally different. But I do prefer getting deep in to characters over special effects!
@@carolynnowak3823 Lol. I'm not trying to Getcha. I just remembered you liked Jaws so I wondered if you preferred one, being that they were both older movies.
Critical Mass I didn’t think you were trying to get me.lol and you have a very good memory!
Original by a lot! For me the visual cue of the queen of diamonds and Angela Lansbury's performance are key, along with a timely story (McCarthy era etc). Denzel is my favorite actor too!
I'm ratting you out to Denzel.
I haven't seen the original or the remake - the storyline doesn't appeal to me. I did appease the UA-cam algorithm gods by watching this full video, though, and left a comment for further algorithm brownie points.
I hope we didn't bore you to tears. Thanks you for helping out the UA-cam Algorithm with a like. The UA-cam Gods haven't blessed us yet but every like counts.
@@MovieRelated No tears of boredom - I thought the then-vs-now film content discussion at the end of the video was quite interesting.
I really liked the remake when i first saw it and still do. Just watched the original recently and have to say that i prefer it even though it was made way before i was born. Big fan of seconds so it helped. Now seen the entire paranoia trilogy.
The original is much better in every way. There really is not much of a comparison. It might be Frankenheimer's best film.
I like the remake and I like the original different times and different scenario I never really sounded depressing life he was saying like there’s so depressed well anyways I enjoyed it I was surprised the lake to remake
The remake is slept on really bad, its dense with ideas and symbolism
The Black character saw the older Black women in his dream. They probably programmed him to see the people who he really saw in real life. The country was very segregated at that time, so his character was seeing who he would have seen every day. The white character, played by Sinatra saw the older white women. And the guy said make like a nice housewife.
Glad you watched this one, thanks! Nice that 2 out of 3 liked the original better ☺. I certainly did. Much prefer this one to the newer version. Paul sorry you found it hard to get through. I honestly thought you would like it. 😂 I hadn't heard that Frank Sinatra owned it; interesting.
While I found it did drag for me, I didn't think it was a bad movie. In fact, I enjoyed seeing Sinatra act. I had no idea he was in movies too. I also liked seeing Lansbury outside of Murder She Wrote.
@@MovieRelated yes, I think both of them were really good in this.
@@MovieRelated Did you know he was in the original Ocean's Eleven? Plus I'm pretty sure he was in Guys and Dolls and Cabaret (several musicals).
@@cinnie2543 yes Frank Sinatra was in Guys & Dolls one of my faves...and I'm probably in the minority but I love tbe original Ocean's 11 and wish they'd left it alone!
@@1195tuck Unfortunately once Hollywood finds a movie that makes money they bear it to death with every twist and remake the can get out of it. Just look what they did with, dare I say Star Wars? Just ask Don what his feelings on this franchise are, also how many rocky movies can they drag out.
It's not often that a remake is better than the original. I don't think I saw the original. So I can't really weigh in on this yet.
What was the point this comment?
I finished watching the whole video. Clearly I have different likes/dislikes in movies.
Thanks for watching! Movies are like food, you love some, you hate some and most are somewhere in between. To each their own, I guess. The fun part is talking about them.
Geez Louise, how can you guys even begin to comment on The Manchurian Candidate without citing Laurence Harvey's stellar performance.
He MADE that movie.
6:50 Not exactly they are more catatonic and in shock from the operation (you think you would be Alright after suffering a lobotomy) but definitly brainwashed as you can see they don't put any struggle but since Major Marko and Sergeant Shaw were the ones with actual instructions they were more conditioned, as you can cleary see by them obeying all of Noyle commands. Also in the original version Raymond is not the one they want to insert as the president since he wasn't in politics but his mother's husband, he only become, not a reporter but editor and boss of a political newspaper which had a lot of influence and was targeting her mother and her husband and that was only done as a test to see if after those years he's still fully under their control as they say multiple times in the film.
I just saw this movie (1962). Before I saw you review it. Have you read the book? I have not. I watched a interview with Angela Lansbury. The kiss in the movie was better then what was written in the book.
Heheheheh, do I even want to know….
Thanks will have to watch the original. Don'a shirt has his attitude about not being on a cruise right now.
Maybe Marc should wear that for the quiz videos.
@@MovieRelated Has Marc EVER worn a t shirt in any of the videos? It seems he is always the one in the shirt that has a collar on it. Don advertising time, lend or sell Marc (maybe Christmas presents?) a few of the cruising with Don shirts to wear.
Didn’t the main character in the new movie win the Presidency????
Honestly, can't recall. I think so but my memory is like swiss cheese.
They could make it in color
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