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@andy Magna Sounds like somebody suffers from low self esteem, insecurity, weak will and weak mind, and possibly low IQ. Any of that ring a bell cupcake???
@@AlcoholicBoredom Who cares someone needs to call them out and it's gonna respond anyway from someone else learn how the internet works you should know this by now
@@dewolf123 *"...learn how the internet works you should know this by now"* This is hilariously ironic. Your ideas about how to deal with attention-seeking coxcombs are entirely backward.
Not to mention she wasn't Jewish. Plenty of non-jewish people have played Jewish roles before, such as Ben Kingsley in Schindler's List or Adrien Brody in The Pianist. Why is it such an issue now?
@@duncanwade1026 And there are plenty of Jewish actors who played non-Jewish characters. (i.e. Cpt. Kirk is canonically not Jewish, and Spock was DEFINITELY not Jewish.) It's just not that much a problem when you can't point at someone and be like "yeah, that guy ain't not Jew." No can really tell apart from like straight up Hassidic folk with the suits and everything, so it isn't a big problem for suspension of disbelief. Especially when they all have their menorah-shaped pubes and Star of David tattoos concealed by costumes at all times which they're legally required to have otherwise they're disowned by the Ghost of King David. It's a whinging of self-indulgent, infantile moralism on the part of people who never got past the high school phase of perceiving the world around them. They want "representation" whereas we just want people who can reasonably play roles in order to suspend disbelief in support of a good story. A Tutsi African dude could easily pass for another African ethnicity, but were one to suddenly replace him with an Asian dude for no reason, the audience is going to be like "wait, what?"
That whole nonsense with Ruby's character coming back with a different actor who had "plastic surgery" within the show to explain the appearance change is literally what the animated Disney movie Bolt does at the end in the parody show within the movie. The fact that a real show did the exact same thing with no sense of self-awareness baffles me.
I mean replacing an actor is always hard and no one really does it perfectly. You either give some weak excuse right out of a Daytime soap Opera or you ignore it entirely and just act like nothing changed, aka Bewitched. That said I thought the silliest part was the brought Kate Kane back just to do nearly nothing with her. Same with the Bruce Wayne body double. All that build up so to speak and they had almost no impact on anything.
Every time someone says “Ruby Rose” I forget that there is a real person with that name and just blankly stare while thinking how RWBY could be relevant
it would certainly be good to see since the show sucks so much that the production failing so hard would be better and show how bieng woke is more fucked than idk actually making a comicbook story come to life?
"A crew member got 3rd degree burns over his whole body, and we were given no therapy after witnessing his skin fall of his face." That's bad enough when you're defending your homeland, building a power plant or whatever, but suffering such injuries because of Batwoman is just rubbing salt into the wounds.
I mean, bad enough to get paralyzed by a random accident on your way to work. But from making a hot mess garbage tv show? What a horrible reminder. Does anyone know if the paralyzed assistant has a gofundme?
imagine getting paralysed for life, looking back at your life 10 years later when your grand children comes to you ask "what happened to you?" and then have to answer "I was severy injured in a scene during the prodution of batwoman"
@@temmison1171 The story about the production assistant to be true, alot of news sites reported something like that happening in early 2020 during the Batwoman shoots. And Ruby Rose herself got hurt during a stunt. So those events happening are true.
@@pyorre2441 Interesting, do you have any sort of link or article headlines of this? I searched it up, and all I could find was allegations of Ruby Rose saying it herself.
@@temmison1171 Her name is Amanda Smith, and if you google her name and paralyzed that should be enough to find several news pieces of the accident. It happened somewhere around March 2020.
Imagine you're Dougray Scott. You've just been accused of serious things by a woman who's toxicity turned an entire cast and crew against her, all because your producers fired her. Like, why would she target him? He didn't fire her, he had no control over that. Ruby deserves all the shit that she gets.
Why can't they BOTH be correct? Maybe there was plenty of diva to go around. It's not like the show picked up after she left and everyone sang songs together.
I've actually worked as a camera operator on a production with Dougray Scott and from my own personal experience, he's a very likeable professional man. He interacts with the crew very well, is happy to do numerous run-throughs (because mistakes happen), works with the guys on a technical level for visuals and rework scenes if need be. He also has the ability to offer insight and suggest technical elements from experience. He would actually make a very good producer. So IMHO my suspicion is that it is more likely that Ruby Rose is the problem. Update: One thing I forgot to mention, he made a point of going round and speaking to us all individually, just to spend a minute or so with us (including the runners & assistants), because he knows this business is about relationships.
If so, tell her to be Batwoman for us in the arrowverse show season 3 and/or 4. Whether it does or doesn't happen, she deserves to be a well portrayed batwoman (from the start) in the Matt Reeves bat trilogy as Batman's first or second partner.
I can confirm with you. Dougray Scott was nothing but professional and Ruby was the issue, she's twisting the story to save her own ass (worked on Batwoman for the first half of the show here in Vancouver)
@@helloimyellow007 the way I see it. Neither Dougray nor Ruby were the issue. It was Caroline's fault that the story of the show is stupid and unbearable and unsafe for the actors
Show has 84% rating with “critics” while a 23% with audiences. Sounds like it’s getting a 4th season. It’s amazing how much crap like this gets renewed. Its even more amazing how many people actually defend this show.
@@twistedtrailerparktales2126 I'm not even interested with the new phase of Marvel after Falcon and Winter Soldier letdown. Haven't seen Loki, Ten Rings, Black Widow and have zero interest in Eternals
I still can't get over the fact that Batwoman has been running for 3 seasons, with a viewership under 0.5 million viewers per episodes and a 0.1 score in the 18 to 49 demographic... while another Arrowverse show (Constantine) got cancelled for "low ratings" with over 3 million viewers per episodes and a solid 1.0 score in the 18 to 49 demo. ... Sure, we will soon get a "rebooted" Constantine show on HBO max... but JJ Abrams got his slimy hands on it and announced a "diverse" Constantine and I am preemptively horrified. [EDIT: Hell, I just saw that Constantine had almost 4X the views of Doctor Who - Season 12 and it still got cancelled...]
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Here's the thing: Actual, organic diversity of the pre-woke era doesn't count as "real diversity" to the wokies, because it doesn't fit the narrative and agenda.
What gets renewed and what gets canceled never makes sense. A solid show with a good fallowing will get canceled while a show no one watches will continue to go on and on.
@Agnez Ummm... @The Critical Drinker can you remove this obvious spam comment? Including my comment if it is in fact removed? Or am I being too prude? I'm not a fan of censorship or blocking pornographic websites but I would hate to see this form of webcam advertisement become a trend in the comment sections of UA-cam.
@@kcbondurant7959 I report them, that's the most we can do. Usually for hate comments, cause maybe that's a faster way to get youtube's algorithm to flag it. Idk
Nerdrotic put it best: "I believe both and am rooting for neither" Hey, he's an idea for a show: it's about the making of a really REALLY bad super hero program and the drama behind the scenes! Since the drama behind Batwoman is far more entertaining than the show itself...
My personal theory: Working behind the scenes on the show WAS a hellish experience, and Ruby Rose WAS a spoiled, demanding diva. When that much egotism and belligerence from both sides gets together, the end results are never pretty. As for Dougray Scott, he probably DID want out of his contract ASAP due to the low quality of the show, its abysmal ratings, and what a thankless role he played on it, and probably was a little grumpy for a while when he was denied a way out until the end of Season 2. Ruby Rose, then, having pretty much no prospects afterwards, brought up all this crap, leaving out her own nastiness and embellishing the studio heads' douchebaggery somewhat, for publicity. She then decided that in order for her claims to draw more attention, that she needed to take a page out of Amber Heard's toxic playbook and exploit the MeToo movement by throwing in an accusation of abuse against the most high- profile male member of the show's cast. Dougray Scott (The only person closely associated with the show who had really significant name- recognition) was the perfect target for her in that regard, so she heavily embellished how he acted after he was unable to get out of his contract. Problem is, Scott has moved on from the show and is currently trying to rebuild his career with more sophisticated fare (He is now back in his native Scotland shooting a British TV/ streaming adaptation of Irvine Welsh's novel 'Crime,' in which he'll be playing the lead), and so he won't take her slandering him to boost her own career sitting down, and so he's taking her bony butt to court over it.
@@josephnewsome2935 That ties into what I said right away that working on the show likely WAS a hellish experience, I'd imagine Ruby Rose wasn't completely lying about that. Caroline Dries and the other higher- ups involved in the show's production likely cared a lot more about the show's production staying on schedule than about the safety of their employees.
Kinda makes sense, i remember her being propped up as the emissary for lesbian actresses when Batwoman was being announced via controversy and the usual debauchery and now her career doesn't seem to go anywere, which is weird, because i remember her in the megalodon movie and she was alright. Outside of that, it seems the showrunner is at fault, as the de facto director they have the obligation to make sure things go smoothly, including dealing with egoes
The most logical and rational theory here - however that ''bony ass'' part was petty and redundant. I mean, when criticizing someone shouldn't we focus on their behaviour and not on their bodies and looks??? Otherwise, it ruins your eloquent reasonable comment and makes it less objective/smart.
Before Batwoman, Az was known as Chaz. That show is so bad it took his "Ch" along with half of his soul and most of his hair. Az is the Gollum to Chaz's Smeagol.
That’s actually a photo of Az from the future, after he, the Drinker, Mauler, and Gary B have been fused into the superbeing needed to fight the Amazon Muskbots.
I think this production hell tops all others I'm aware of. With Rose's recent claims on what happened behind the scenes, it's even more incredible that this has been renewed. I think the lesson here is that if a show gets out THE MESSAGE, it's all worth it, no matter how much virtue-signalling BS, crew and actor abuse, and damage it causes in the process.
But that's the problem isn't it? It's not actually getting THE MESSAGE out to anyone particular who isn't already on board with it. It's money wasting echo chamber.
Worst production hell I am aware of is the old Wizard of Oz. Toxic make up, body suites the actors couldn't take off during the 12 hours or so of filming causing them to over heat, unsafe pyrotechnics and of course characters getting replaced if they are injured on set to keep the production going. It was made in something like the 1930's I think, sad to see nearly a hundred years later with workers Unions and the like nothing has really changed in hollywood when it comes to worker rights and safety.
@@JustaGuy_Gaming Dont forget that the snow in the poppy field was made of asbestos, and that the actress for Dorothy had to be constantly drugged in order to get through the absurd filming schedule. If im not mistaken, she was only allowed or able to get about 4 hours of sleep every 3 days or something.
I worked on the first season of Batwoman, and was actually present for a few of the events you mentioned. The assistant who had a crane lowered onto her head was actually hanging out where she shouldn't have been and was playing on her phone, not paying attention. It was largely her fault. But anyway, the show is terrible (and that's why I left after the first season), but there are a handful of great people on the crew who know it's shit but just want the paycheck. I was one of them. I can confirm that Ruby was rude to a lot of the people on set, though I never experienced that directly. Either way, I'm partial to the idea that the allegations against her are true.
wow, it's so cool to have an actual witness who worked on set! btw if you don't mind could you tell me how you get in to this line of work? it's my dream to works in this industry but i don't know how to get started
I just want to say "the check cleared" is a respectable form of career management in Hollywood. Michael Caine can have much of his explained that way, for one.
@@alexmercer9649 for sure man, it's no problem at all. Like a lot of careers it all boils down to connections and who you know. If you know someone in the industry and they vouch for you when shows are crewing up, you can jump right in. If you don't know anyone, I'd recommend film school. That's the route I took, and while the education itself was largely useless the connections I made during my time there are what allowed me to find work upon graduation. You've got to be hungry and chase after those leads though, I'd say upwards of half of the people I went to school with didn't end up in the industry. That being said it's a ton of fun working on shows and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
@@Vyrnost thanks man! I have asked around and pretty much everyone said the same thing you did so basically Is the same for every country. Thanks for the advice but it's a little problematic for me,you see I actually just finished a two years course in screenwriting in naples south Italy, don't get me wrong the teachers were great but others school in the aerea provided multiple meeting with publisher and similar figures( my of course didn't) and in mid pandemic they cancelled the meeting at the local Comicon ( yep they basically stole the name to the "real one) so now i find myself without any money and without connections😅 I already know It'll be very hard to start in the field so i appreciate every advice, still thanks a lot for the answer.
@Elizabeth Bennett I was simply referring to the fact that I was one of the people on the crew who didn't like the show but wanted the paycheck. The "great people" are those I worked with who don't deserve any flak just because the show isn't popular. I can see how you could've misconstrued my wording and drawn your conclusions with a bit of mental gymnastics on your part, but to infer that I'm a narcissist and accuse me of that as a stranger on the internet is pretty wild. May wanna rethink YOUR words because you come across as having the mind of a child.
The truth is that the character has been terrible since the comics created it. Batgirl is a much better character and Barbra Gordon is worlds more interesting
@@frostlast768 We don't talk about characters in their present personas. A lot of comic book characters are social justice warriors right now. Wait and see Punisher from MARVEL killing Christians, Sexists, Homophobes, Transphobes and all the other -phobes in due time.
For a production made up of such tolerant, loving, open minded and inclusive people, it all really just seems to be made up of hateful, spiteful dregs they like to think they are against.
I agree with the Critical Drinker. The problem lies somewhere in the middle. It's a more diplomatic way of saying that (mostly) everyone somehow contributed to this shite fest. Though I strongly believe the studio should take most of the blame...
I can actually beleave both sides honestly. I can beleave Ruby Rose saying that the enviroment was unproffesional and hostile, that people in charge yelled at everyone for everything, that the stunt and sfx crew were careless and that the producers threated her to return in less than 10 days, but i can also beleave CWs side here, because Ruby Rose was a diversity hire, she was hired not based on her skills, but her sexuality, also if you worked in such enviroment, soon or late you would also become part of the problem with how toxic and dangerous it is. There is no way that a show where the main character quitted after the first season, where she got an injury that almost paralyzed her and where the moral compass of everyone is based on their sexuality has 3 seasons and is ongoing whitow some kind of shady issue.
@@LordofSadFac the productions was probably hell, but I am willing to bet Rudy contributed a lot to that as past coworkers have complained about her being lazy and rude to many on set.
I did a day call which turned into about a week doing lighting on Batwoman when I lived in Vancouver. Didn't want to be on it as I'd heard some of the rumours but yes, I can vouch for that production assistant. On one night shoot which started around 6:30pm at the Vancouver train station there was just one short stunt scene where Batwoman was meant to slide off a bike, have a short dialog and then dissappear. This was a 2nd team shoot so it should have been short shift (anything less than 12 hours is short, 15s would be standard at times). Everything was set up ready to start shooting yet Ruby sat in her chauffeured car for around 2 hours right next to set, for no reason, despite being called multiple times. We all had to stand around in the freezing weather, ice, snow and wind. It ended up being a 19 hour shift in the end. She had a stunt double and body double so she was only needed for the facial shots. Another day we had only a couple of hours to do a last minute full on lighting for Vancouver city hall with no warning and limited equipment as again it was a 2nd team shoot. It was a crappy production as a whole but that's the ugly nature of the film industry up in 'North Hollywood' as they call it. Ridiculous hours, low energy because of lack of sleep and no original ideas for the crews to even get slightly energized by. The safety standards there are extremely lacking too despite them putting millions into the ridiculous covid protocols and it is true about the production assistant that got severely injured. That made the DGC and IATSE union really start to make a bit more of a stand about conditions. The pay may have been good but I cherish my time more than money nowadays. And thank christ I was only a day call. Its embarrassing to have put even some of my time into it.
OK I googled lesbian actress of Jewish descent and I came up with the perfect candidate to take over the role of Batwoman. Miriam Margolyes appears to be the only woman I could find that meets that criteria. She is 80 years old but we can't allow ourselves to be ageist.
I've never watched a single episode of this show, and yet I've had so much entertainment from it indirectly. So there's a positive in its favour, probably the only one by the sounds of it 😂 Thanks Drinker.
I managed to suffer through 3 episodes. They were progressively worse each time. (and i always give a show anywhere between 3-5 episodes. Sometimes they can have a rough start and then nail it later.) I couldnt even make 4 here. Awful awful shit
Just from my own experience, I've been around Dougray before, several times. He was nothing but kind, cool and polite. He's also a good dad, I've seen these things first hand. Never worked with RR, so I can't speak to her.
Almost NOBODY has worked with RR because, as we keep trying to tell you all, she is NOT AN ACTOR. Australians were like 'hahah oh wait, ur serious? the underwear model and 'DJ' who dates C-grade australian celebrities? Batwoman? No no no no no...." Americans seriously have a hard time telling when Australians can't act. The Hemsworth boys learned on the job, but they were soap actors at BEST before you guys decided they should be in movies. Joel Edgerton is the worst; so incredibly untalented it's like a long-running prank we're pulling on America. Heath Ledger surprised even us, though. Hollywood been trying to copy that story ever since. The rule now seems to be, if you're bad at acting with your natural Australian accent, go to Hollywood, where you can be a star. (But only if you're a genuinely nice person like Chris Hemsworth and not, say, Ruby Rose.)
@@GlennDavey tbf Chris Hemsworth has done well as Thor his brother however yeah he’s not been so good and yeah Heath Ledger surprised everyone as the joker (even tho knights tale existed but even that was a comedy) it was one of the best performances of all time and he was lost too soon.
@@GlennDavey *"as we keep trying to tell you all, she is NOT AN ACTOR."* Honest question: Why does it seem like everyone calls women 'actors' now, and not 'actresses'?
@@FNA27601 I can't imagine why you think his Joker performance was great. It was entirely by-the-book and uninspired. I have _no_ bias against Ledger. _A Knight's Tale_ is a good movie. I like _The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus._ But people are entirely blinded by bias when it comes to Ledger's Joker, simply because he died shortly afterward. One simply can not understand much about acting and think that there is anything special about Ledger's Joker portrayal. It's actually somewhat cringey at times for -- again -- how generic his interpretation of "crazy" is.
* unless they're conservatives * unless they're serving as a witness for the accused * unless they're acting against things like feminism, abortion, and child indoctrination * unless they're accusing a prominent left wing figure like in the Democrat or Labour Party "Okay, we really don't want you to believe all women, just the ones we're using as meatshields to push our cultural Marxism and globalist agendas. We just use women because the vast, overwhelming, disgustingly demonstrable majority of you are gynocentric tuckfards who wouldn't, and in some cases didn't, give wahmxxn so much as a slap on the wrist for burning their own babies to death."
So as far as the accusations go, Dougray Scott has been in film for decades and not one blip on the radar for bad behaviour. Ruby Rose as far as I can see has never been in any movie/tv series for more than one film/season. Usually younger actors will want to hang on to a job as long as possible. Going by that, I’d bet that CW will win the lawsuit against her. Here’s hoping she’ll go the way of the Lohan.
@@EVAUnit4A he's 55. That's the age when many movie stars turn into TV stars. From Peter Falk to Angela Lansbury. Plus it was a main starring role in the TV series so he's probably making about 50 Grand per episode with the potential for 250k if it had been a hit. But I looked at the wiki and he does have a long list of credits and The Parent poster's right... Dougray doesn't have history of complaints from co-workers.
The "entertainment" industry managers do not hire the best talent these days. They hire relatives, their F&ск toys, buddies, and children of the "people important for business". Anyone and anything bur the best or even average talent. So, this is what we get in the outcome: garbage productions, bad attitude to criticism, endless filming set disasters, internal conflicts that become too evident in the productions themselves, etc. Thank you for this insightful review!
I think its somewhere in the middle. Everyone was miserable, and now that Ruby has thrown the first punch the studio is circling the wagons and throwing out their own accusations. Also, spiteful women tend to remember mildly confrontational events as huge blow ups when it suits their drama seeking.
Yeah, but then again spiteful companies tend to do the same thing to employees that open them up to huge lawsuits. Don't assume that there is necessarily any truth whatsoever to what CW says about Rose. They are a desperate corporation with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line.
Even assuming Scott got pissed that he was stuck in this purgatory of a production, I'd rather buy that he was a dick to _everyone_ . Claiming he turned into a giant misogynistic asshole sounds a bit far out there, and could be an attempt of Ruby's to cancel him out of spite.
My best guess is they are all entitled, narcissistic unhinged scum so I'm sure nothing is made up. Everyone is equally awful to each other all the time.
I was like, "Oh hey, a series about Batwoman. Can't imagine it'll be any worse than Flash, Arrow, etc. Might as well watch..." then I heard the boy say, "The Batsuit is utter perfection," then I heard her say, "It will be... when it fits a woman." Then I was like, "Nope. Not only is she too stupid to design her own, she disrespects the legacy of Batman, then is going to steal his stuff, then claim it as her own. Just like any other Feminist Activist Kleptomaniac. Not watching this shit." I nearly puked in my mouth a little hearing that. Imagine if someone looked at Catwoman, and said, "I like your image... your symbol. However, I think it'll be better... if you weren't a woman." I want to remind you, the girl didn't even say, "When it fits me." She said, "When it fits a woman." She was saying, "When Batman becomes Batwoman, only then will it be acceptable to us."
That's exactly it. With one line in the trailer they managed to insult their whole fanbase and made their new hero look stupid :D And I'm sure they weren't even aware!
A few episodes later, the tabloids start assuming she’s heterosexual, so she decides to come out as gay. Because if you have a secret identity, you want to make sure supervillains get left little clues in order to be able to track you down, right?
0.47M people watched the season 3 opening. Constantine was cancelled mid-season at 3.3M viewership. Constantine throughout the short season 1 for the most part had 10x the audience of the Batwoman. Let that sink in.
"...and starring a motley collection of has-beens and never-will-bes." Damn, that feels like it especially hits hard for Dougray Scott. Dude was almost Wolverine in the 2000s X-Men movies but had to back out due to his Mission Impossible 2 role. He maybe could have had Hugh Jackman's career!
Dougray Scott was also nearly cast as James Bond. It was down to him and Craig and they picked Craig. The guy who only did the last one for the money literally, and whom "hates bond." So yeah, that's loosing out on 2 major high profile roles only to end up as a villain in several hit films with mixed reception...and treated like one in batwoman because awful writers.
@@reprobatemind6194 Which is why Hugh Jackman‘s performance was superior. Wolverine like his animal name sake it’s not a big imposing person, but vicious as hell. There’s no way a skinny developed guy could’ve played that role
I am wholeheartedly impressed that you could endure this show. Mad respects. People don't realize how drunk you have to be to not simply go under. You feel like a pastor, ex-altar boy, with PTSD issues, passing on the misery you suffered to the next altar boy, along with the sight of the bottoms of two liquor bottles fresh in memory. That's how you feel after watching this show.
Well, just before the Covid, the CW announced that they were going to remake a "Dark Shadows" series. Being a big fan of the original and the 90's remake, I thought great. When CW cancelled it, was disappointed. But now I am glad they are not ruining Dark Shadows as well.
8:24 - This video is succinctly summed up in ONE SENTENCE: "Out of the hills to die on in this world, Batwoman has got to be the most undeserving mound of shit that I could imagine" 🤣 Well said Drinker!!
Seriously. The most unbelievable part of Rose's story is that the network was worried about losing millions by not being able to produce more episodes. They could have thrown up a test pattern on the screen during that time slot and gotten the same ratings.
Even without the many members of the production stepping forward saying that Ruby was the issue, just based on her history its clear she has a real bad attitude problem. From the production crew of OITNB saying she wanted out and didn't gel with anyone to harassing her ex-girlfriend for over 4 months. She really doesn't seem like a very nice person to be around.
There was also an incident where she was socialising in a bar, ordered champagne worth $4k iirc, and skipped out, leaving her buddies to pick up the tab
Given Ruby's personality, and how she acts in every movie she's in, AKA playing herself, I'm more inclined to believe the studios recollection of events than hers. She's definitely the type that claims looking at a woman without permission is abuse/assault.
Getting yelled at for not knowing her lines, constantly showing up late because she was partying and getting high, and treating people on set like trash IS ABUSIVE!!! I can't believe she tolerated it. LOL
These people can't even tell themselves the truth about what gender they are. You think they interface with the external world with any kind of perspective or reason?
@@UnitSe7en TBH. The current industry rewards people who have as many victim points as possible. The biggest reason she was hired was because she likes girls. Even though she bangs lots of high profile men, she was probably told to keep that shit under wraps for publicity sake.
"3rd Degree Burns over his entire body..." No. That is fatal. Either Rose simply does not know what 3rd Degree Burns are and she is lying out of ignorance, or she is lying, or there was an actual death on set that no one is admitting to.
@@braindavidgilbert3147 3rds are charred flesh/beyond superficial heavy burns. they are certainly lethal, but also survivable depending on circumstances. If this poor crew fella was covered in 3rds he could certainly survive but permanently messed up.
*"3rd Degree Burns over his entire body..."* Maybe it's like "There are people all over the world", which doesn't mean that the world is literally coated in a layer of people. In other words, an exaggeration of the sort: "100% of his body was 10% burned.".
@@omegon3782 yes you can techincally survive 3rd degree burns and it's common but you'd end up in some permanently damaged postion with your body But holy shit, 3rd degree all over the body? I don't fkin believe ANYONE could ever survive something like that
There was a rumor about Rose’s injuries at some point : Allegedly, she would actually have gotten it while filming a movie who didn’t have proper insurance and then decided to put it on Batwoman production to get on their insurance.
Guilty or innocent, the defamation suit is Scott's best move here. The damage done by #MeToo on our culture has left "scorched earth" aggressive legal defenses the only viable path for protecting a man's reputation from allegations like these. Even if the suit fails or is dismissed, people will take his denial more seriously because of it.
What may give Scott more credibility in the end is the fact that this information came out of left field. Other than the statement he released sucking off his handlers I imagine the suit came out of his own actions. If Ruby Rose wants to throw out allegations prove it in court. Like...you're supposed to do.
@@andreivaldez2929 She immediately categorises people into "matter" and "don't matter", and then conducts herself accordingly. If you don't matter, she treats you like you're utter scum. Like you don't exist. As it turns out, I mattered in her assessment in the context in which we met, so I didn't receive this treatment - but everyone else did. Everyone. I found it almost breathtaking that anyone could be so rude. Don't get me wrong, in the entertainment industry, you expect to deal with divas...and it's a dog-eat-dog industry, so I take it all with a grain of salt. But it's not that she was simply aggressive in a tough industry - she knows how to kiss the right asses and turn on the charm when there's something in it for her. It's that she ONLY EVER PUNCHES DOWN. Assistants, receptionists, customer service staff, baristas...anyone who she deems is of no benefit to her receives scathing, palpable contempt. The worst part of it is, whilst she is borderline sociopathic towards others, she perpetually claims to be a victim. She bleats incessantly about her depression and anxiety and self harm and plays the victim card first time, every time. She claims to be a spokesperson for mental illness and a champion of the oppressed...yet I've seen her leave customer service staff virtually in tears with how horrendously rude she is. I don't know how much people know about her pre-Hollywood, but she's Australian and was kicking around Sydney and Melbourne for years before she got placed in film. She as a reputation in particularly Sydney as being one to avoid. I know several people that saw her on a regular basis in a service provider context that ended up refusing to see her because she treated them so poorly. It's tragic that young girls look up to her as a role model. She's poison, and if people knew the misery she inflicts on those around her, they'd think differently.
“Production Hell”? The true Hell is for the viewers who chose to watch the end result! I can laugh, because I’ve never watched it, never had a desire to watch it, and never will watch it!! Thank you, Drinker, for saving me from accidentally watching a single episode!!
The lift incident happened when the person assigned to monitor the base and keep people aware of it's movements decided to sit UNDER THE ARM of the lift and poke at her phone. It didn't collapse . The SFX guy was on his own truck, cutting some metal. A 30 year veteran. He forgot to seal a jar of black powder and a spark ignited it . Both tragedies,and I wish them well, but not indicative of an unsafe production Rose's account is all out of whack
Ruby Rose has a history of being difficult on sets. There's probably blame to go around on all sides but I certainly don't blatantly take her side on this one.
Weirdly there's no meantion of this difficulty to work with anywhere on the internet outside of Batwoman. Even an article about why people dislike her there's nothing about her being difficult to work with. Do you have any examples because I'm drawing a blank?
@@TheAnomaly00 having just recovered from an injury that could've made you paraplegic for life and being forced to go back to filming a shitty CWC DC show would certainly make anybody pissed off beyond belief
Call me biased, but when it comes to diva-like behavior, demands, big-headedness and overall shitty behavior, at least in my opinion suits more to a diversity hire than to an experienced, well versed, respected actor. Could very well be that Ruby is confessing through projection and uses straight huwite male as a scapegoat in the process. I bet she really read deep into her contract after that injury and wanted out but couldn't so she upped the diva act hoping the studio will breach the contract or worse yet: tries to fire the diversity hire.
There was a Brit. comedy TV program called *Spy* that was absolutely great. They changed one of the actors for the second season and whenever a character noticed the character would simply assert he’d gotten a haircut, it was reasonably subtle and glorious.
Considering how Scott and the assistant are against Rose and not the studio I think it's safe to say the one causing the problems is probably Rose. We also haven't heard about any other accidents from anyone else which leaks would likely happen if the cast and crew were so unhappy. It's all claims coming from Rose who at this point doesn't seem to be a reliable source. Her story seems to have holes and contradictions which often means the person is leaving out details and not being truthful.
I just wonder how in the 80s and 90s when Jackie Chan and Sly Stallone still at peak they actually do their own stunt and having massive injury without anyone complaining, woke
Pffff - it's still a Batman by-product of the lowest order (like, Batman with a vagina). Birds of Prey (the graphic novel, not the movie) at least had original heroines...
I think everyone could tell that Dougray Scott wasn’t happy, that much is obvious from his amazing performance that still managed to be the best part of the show. Can’t say I blame him though, from what we’ve heard and seen the show was an absolute nightmare. Won’t say anything about those accusations towards him, so far it just looks like a he said she said type of thing. I’ll make up my mind when I see enough evidence although I do think it’s much more likely Ruby Rose was the actual problem
The "steamed pants" thing can really only be one of two things: Dougray Scott was so drunk he was using it as innuendo, or she's lifting reality into her own fantasy. The latter being all too possible because they do this on set/for clothing/etc. It's just not well-known so it might give her more to say but if that's all there is, him being drunk is about all there is, cause there's no way he wasn't.
@@oneandonlysound3453 A fellow soldier actually ironed the creases in his pants while he was wearing them right before we went to uniform inspection. I was sure he would burn himself but he didn't.
Today's entertainment prioritizes sending messages towards audience mostly of them fails miserably and disappoints the audience instead of actually entertaining the Audience themselves.
Speaking of Kate Kain getting "plastic surgery to change her appearance", I remember that being a joke at the end of Bolt to show how money hungry the shows studio was. Kinda funny that it's being treated seriously now.
Two things can be true at once, the production could be a complete disaster and both Scott and Rose could both be massive tools on set. I doubt Scott is actually physically abusive but he probably just didn’t give a fook and let everyone know. Rose probably has a lot of resentment buildup after her injury. I can easily see where they both have reasons to be pissed off but I tend to give Scott some more leniency and benefit of the doubt because he’s worked on some big budget projects before and he’s the most competent actor there.
Nah, if Scott physically hurt somebody it would have got out long ago. What was stopping Ruby leaking the info through an anonymous tip off if she was so aggrieved.
If Dougray Scott were guilty as Ruby Rose claims then he probably would have done what most guilty people do and issued an apology statement, then kept quiet in the hope that the story went away. Threatening to sue brings more attention to him which he probably wouldn't want if he were guilty. Or perhaps he's just really arrogant? Who knows?
We do know people were injured on set, including Ruby Rose herself, so since her most shocking allegations concern those injuries that would seem to contradict Scott Dougray's denials and the whole idea that the production was one happy family EXCEPT for Ruby Rose. I lean more towards Ruby. Believe all wimmins, right?
@@SolidGoldCEO You can be massive asshole without ever facing repercussions on a poorly led, stress infused, low budget action series. The statement says he hurt a stunt double, just slap a bit too hard in that one take and dismiss the complaints of the actor afterwards. It's that easy. Fuck, slap/hit/strangle that stunt double and then ruin the shot so you get to do it again.
That's like...an extremely exploitable weakness to give to a hero. All these "heroes" are so weak that the villains pretend they don't know how to beat them just so they don't feel bad.
Also apparently a makeup artist was hospitalised as well, how the hell did that happen? Stunt doubles is understandable because that is a risky job but makeup artists?....how?
The fact that Dougray Scott is threatening to sue rather than releasing an "I'm so sorry if I offended anyone" statement probably means he's telling the truth. Most people who are guilty issue a quiet apology, then keep a low profile in the hope that the story goes away. Threatening to sue brings more attention to the situation which most guilty people certainly wouldn't want. Personally I think Dougray Scott has had enough of Rose and her BS, just like everyone else on the show. And i find it highly amusing that the wokiest of wokey woke TV shows has eaten one of their own lol.
Either he's telling the truth about not abusing women on set, or he's an idiot. Likely the first, but then again actors aren't always the smartest people around. There would be women to either confirm or deny those allegations of abuse on-set, as well as dozens of witnesses if abuse occurred.
Same. Also I'm less inclined to believe a word Ruby Rose says largely because of the MeToo movement. We live in a world where women make up all kinds of bullshit to excuse their own shortcomings; I myself have personal experience with this. I have a "sister" (and I use that term as loosely as possibly) who is just like Ruby Rose. A stuck, self-centered, spoiled little drama queen who has belittled and bullied her co-workers at every job she's ever had while being a lazy sack of shit who can't be arsed to do anything, only to quit in a fit of rage and play the victim card so my parents wouldn't think she was a complete loser. Suffice to say, it hasn't worked, and she's living on the streets now. She just got kicked out of a homeless shelter a few days ago.
More the other way around to me. If someone's suing for being called a peace of crap, they're usually an even bigger piece of crap. If they're not, they just say they're not the piece of crap and let their reputation speak for themselves.
I'm also inclined to not believe Rose because the guy who plays Luke Fox (a.k.a. Batwing) also chimed in to say how much she made working on the show suck.
I ♥️ HeelvsBabyFace. I know he looks like someone who tried to get into the Tardis, just to get the door literally shut in his face... but hey, I hear the Dursleys have an opening...
Everyone should just blame "THE CW", because let us be honest here, we ALL know what that stands for: *THE CRINGE WIZARDS* No one else concocts such potent potions of cringe like they do. They are the wizards of cringe.
I mean there was a time when the CW was good.... though it's been a few decades. I remember things like Buffy, Charmed and such being good on it back in the day. The original stuff, not the remakes.
Batwoman: A show that defies all known laws of logic and can even drive sane men to lunacy, who just want to watch the world burn. (Az and Thomas Unlimited for example)
I think this probably comes down to Rose, regarding all the ‘who is at fault’. I seem to recall reading about how Jason Statham thought she had the worst attitude of any actress he worked with, and as such they had very limited screen time together, because there was always a risk of tempers flaring. Sounds like Rose is just trouble.
Though the film has a die-hard set-up that would lead to them naturally not being on screen a lot at once, it's overly noticeable Ruby's last film "The Doorman" with Jean Reno to the point where some of there exchanges might've not even been filmed at the same time. There other interactions are basically over the phone or nonexistent. She also doesn't really interact with the cast outside of the nerdy tech girl in TripleX3: Return Of Xander Cage. Caroline Dries may be a hack moron and the show is a budgetary and woke disaster but Ruby must be a real nuisance. Even her character in RE: Final Chapter seemed like something was cut out or just not filmed like the other cast (including actual strong females, Alice-Milla Jovovich and Ali Larter as Claire too really) couldn't stand her either.
Regardless on who's telling the truth. I do appreciate a studio/company actually fighting back instead of rolling over as we've time and time again in the last few years. It made me laugh just because of that if anything else.
Yeah. So hating on it when she was still starring in some tv movies and either did or had chances to be in big budget blockbusters. Even with her mid-acting at best, much worse cause most are generally worse on the CW. Dougray Scott just gets more drunk and looks like hell as the show goes on. Ruby Rose asking to still return but gets recast with Wallis Day. I don't doubt production was a disaster zone, but Ruby Rose blaming everyone but herself? Yeah, sure, that's totally believable. No wonder why even in this day and age the studio defended Dougray Scott. Not that WB has a soul when they make up reasons to fire people but still went through with the flush and didn't recast amber turd.
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I like that jab you took at heelsvsbabyface
As a wise man has said that is a lot of shit
When The behind the scenes stuff are more interesting than the show itself, you know you did something wrong
Πες τα, πατριώτη!😄
Likewise with Rust
Case in point : The room.
Ευτυχώς, μπορούμε πάντα να μην τα δούμε.
Cough Island of Doctor Moreau cough
It’s true. Every word of it.
We're all sorry for what this show did to you
You poor soul
Gday Babyface!
Sorry AZ you don t deserve this
you suffer for our sins bro - keep up the great work
"Written and directed by the living embodiments of participation awards." Could be the best line ever written then uttered.
@Andi Magna get out of here troll
@@ethanpederson Dude, don't even bother responding. Any attention you give will only encourage them to post again since they see it irritated someone.
@andy Magna
Sounds like somebody suffers from low self esteem, insecurity, weak will and weak mind, and possibly low IQ. Any of that ring a bell cupcake???
@@AlcoholicBoredom Who cares someone needs to call them out and it's gonna respond anyway from someone else learn how the internet works you should know this by now
@@dewolf123 *"...learn how the internet works you should know this by now"*
This is hilariously ironic. Your ideas about how to deal with attention-seeking coxcombs are entirely backward.
The idea of an actor not being "gay enough" for a character is very funny to me. It's the idea that someone was payed to write that.
Not to mention she wasn't Jewish. Plenty of non-jewish people have played Jewish roles before, such as Ben Kingsley in Schindler's List or Adrien Brody in The Pianist. Why is it such an issue now?
@@duncanwade1026 it's almost like they forgot what acting is.
Paid*
@@duncanwade1026 And there are plenty of Jewish actors who played non-Jewish characters. (i.e. Cpt. Kirk is canonically not Jewish, and Spock was DEFINITELY not Jewish.) It's just not that much a problem when you can't point at someone and be like "yeah, that guy ain't not Jew." No can really tell apart from like straight up Hassidic folk with the suits and everything, so it isn't a big problem for suspension of disbelief. Especially when they all have their menorah-shaped pubes and Star of David tattoos concealed by costumes at all times which they're legally required to have otherwise they're disowned by the Ghost of King David.
It's a whinging of self-indulgent, infantile moralism on the part of people who never got past the high school phase of perceiving the world around them. They want "representation" whereas we just want people who can reasonably play roles in order to suspend disbelief in support of a good story. A Tutsi African dude could easily pass for another African ethnicity, but were one to suddenly replace him with an Asian dude for no reason, the audience is going to be like "wait, what?"
@@BigPuddinhow can you tell the difference they both are white
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that THIS ended up being renewed not once, but TWICE, while Firefly got axed.
That’s the way of the world, trash gets to stay while good works of media get snuffed out like a candle.
Too often.
Mind Hunter.
Fox has axed many good shows because they decided to shove it to the Friday Night Death Slot instead of say their reality show results.
All you need to get renewed on The CW is a pulse.
Just more EFAP minis
"This show's stupidity is literal perfection."
"It will be. When it sues a woman."
Well, it does appear there is a report someone is suing Ruby Rose for 10Mio, so you were ahead of the curve.
Bruh
@@timleelim9930 It was already mentioned in the video. Seems like nowadays no one even watches the videos only comments.
Amazing pun.
@@Jebu911 yep, I got distracted and missed the last few minutes. Lesson learned
That whole nonsense with Ruby's character coming back with a different actor who had "plastic surgery" within the show to explain the appearance change is literally what the animated Disney movie Bolt does at the end in the parody show within the movie. The fact that a real show did the exact same thing with no sense of self-awareness baffles me.
Aw mannnn, you just opened a gate of old memories
I mean replacing an actor is always hard and no one really does it perfectly. You either give some weak excuse right out of a Daytime soap Opera or you ignore it entirely and just act like nothing changed, aka Bewitched.
That said I thought the silliest part was the brought Kate Kane back just to do nearly nothing with her. Same with the Bruce Wayne body double. All that build up so to speak and they had almost no impact on anything.
@@JustaGuy_Gaming I honestly think ignoring the change completely is better than going with the plastic surgery excuse. It's a lot less corny.
@@cradiculous That’s what they did with Edward Norton being replaced by Mark Ruffalo and Terrance being replaced by Don Cheadle.
@@pizzario4986 They'll probably do it with whoever is cast as the next Black Panther too.
Every time someone says “Ruby Rose” I forget that there is a real person with that name and just blankly stare while thinking how RWBY could be relevant
The video becomes a different kind of hilarious when you imagine the Rooster Teeth character instead of the actress
It sounds like the name of a pornstar
@@krajicsek13 knowing how much RWBY Hentai there is you might as well be correct.
Not that i watched any of that myself.......
@@TheSecondVersion Drinker-Fans will surely enjoy Hbomberguy, i bet. I dont bet money though, so dont even ask. I just bet vanilla.
Yeah?
Phoenix Douchebag yeah right you didn’t😂
Someone should write the making of that show into a movie. Sounds like great cinema.
Tropic Thunder, but with superheroes.
It'd be better than the actual show.
it would certainly be good to see since the show sucks so much that the production failing so hard would be better and show how bieng woke is more fucked than idk actually making a comicbook story come to life?
We need a Batwoman version of the Disaster Artist
Jinx!
"A crew member got 3rd degree burns over his whole body, and we were given no therapy after witnessing his skin fall of his face."
That's bad enough when you're defending your homeland, building a power plant or whatever, but suffering such injuries because of Batwoman is just rubbing salt into the wounds.
Stuntman paralyzed is really depressing to me. Really, what for? . .
I mean, bad enough to get paralyzed by a random accident on your way to work. But from making a hot mess garbage tv show? What a horrible reminder. Does anyone know if the paralyzed assistant has a gofundme?
HOW DID I NOT KNOW OF THIS?!
O_q
So a crew member got burned and the concern is the lack of therapy for everyone else. OK
They Michael Jacksoned his face with fireworks?
Holy hell, that poor crew. Imagine getting 3rd-degree burns just to make Batwoman. You'd be just as likely to die from embarassment.
imagine getting paralysed for life, looking back at your life 10 years later when your grand children comes to you ask "what happened to you?" and then have to answer "I was severy injured in a scene during the prodution of batwoman"
If she is telling the truth, who is the person that was paralyzed. Surely there's some sort of evidence online of this event happening.
@@temmison1171 The story about the production assistant to be true, alot of news sites reported something like that happening in early 2020 during the Batwoman shoots. And Ruby Rose herself got hurt during a stunt. So those events happening are true.
@@pyorre2441 Interesting, do you have any sort of link or article headlines of this? I searched it up, and all I could find was allegations of Ruby Rose saying it herself.
@@temmison1171 Her name is Amanda Smith, and if you google her name and paralyzed that should be enough to find several news pieces of the accident. It happened somewhere around March 2020.
Imagine you're Dougray Scott. You've just been accused of serious things by a woman who's toxicity turned an entire cast and crew against her, all because your producers fired her. Like, why would she target him? He didn't fire her, he had no control over that. Ruby deserves all the shit that she gets.
@joe blanco *"...especially a gay woman..."*
Isn't the term 'lesbian'?
Why can't they BOTH be correct? Maybe there was plenty of diva to go around. It's not like the show picked up after she left and everyone sang songs together.
@@bricaaron3978 No, it is not.
@@Bob.martens *"No, it is not."
Can you elaborate?
@@bricaaron3978 Gay woman and lesbian are by all means the same. If that is your only critique of the statement, you both agree:)
"The homeless man's version of MCU", absolutely brilliant.
Savage
I think a homeless man could do better
Now the MCU is turning into the homeless man's version of the MCU
Especially funny considering how low MCU itself is. Hit the second rock bottom here
Even worse, this is the homeless man's version of Netflix MCU
I've actually worked as a camera operator on a production with Dougray Scott and from my own personal experience, he's a very likeable professional man. He interacts with the crew very well, is happy to do numerous run-throughs (because mistakes happen), works with the guys on a technical level for visuals and rework scenes if need be. He also has the ability to offer insight and suggest technical elements from experience. He would actually make a very good producer.
So IMHO my suspicion is that it is more likely that Ruby Rose is the problem.
Update: One thing I forgot to mention, he made a point of going round and speaking to us all individually, just to spend a minute or so with us (including the runners & assistants), because he knows this business is about relationships.
Did you ever get to know Wallis Day?
If so, tell her to be Batwoman for us in the arrowverse show season 3 and/or 4. Whether it does or doesn't happen, she deserves to be a well portrayed batwoman (from the start) in the Matt Reeves bat trilogy as Batman's first or second partner.
I can confirm with you. Dougray Scott was nothing but professional and Ruby was the issue, she's twisting the story to save her own ass (worked on Batwoman for the first half of the show here in Vancouver)
@@helloimyellow007 the way I see it. Neither Dougray nor Ruby were the issue. It was Caroline's fault that the story of the show is stupid and unbearable and unsafe for the actors
@@tonyantonellis9983 well that's WB for you and what it's like working of them.
Show has 84% rating with “critics” while a 23% with audiences. Sounds like it’s getting a 4th season. It’s amazing how much crap like this gets renewed. Its even more amazing how many people actually defend this show.
I am 100% sure the critics haven't watched a whole season. If they did, they are paid not to question why it MAKES NO EFFING SENSE. XD
They can’t cancel it, because that would be an admission of failure. They’d rather burn money than admit their show sucks and that the fans are right.
Well my friend you saw Hollywood's response to eternals?
I don't know anything about it but I'm glad it's got gay people. This movie is saving lives.
@@twistedtrailerparktales2126 I'm not even interested with the new phase of Marvel after Falcon and Winter Soldier letdown. Haven't seen Loki, Ten Rings, Black Widow and have zero interest in Eternals
@@twistedtrailerparktales2126 "This movie is saving lives"...I don't know where you get your delusions, laser-brains.
"They never let a bad idea go to waste." You are a poet.
I still can't get over the fact that Batwoman has been running for 3 seasons, with a viewership under 0.5 million viewers per episodes and a 0.1 score in the 18 to 49 demographic... while another Arrowverse show (Constantine) got cancelled for "low ratings" with over 3 million viewers per episodes and a solid 1.0 score in the 18 to 49 demo.
... Sure, we will soon get a "rebooted" Constantine show on HBO max... but JJ Abrams got his slimy hands on it and announced a "diverse" Constantine and I am preemptively horrified.
[EDIT: Hell, I just saw that Constantine had almost 4X the views of Doctor Who - Season 12 and it still got cancelled...]
Isn't costantin is bi there for already diverse?
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Here's the thing: Actual, organic diversity of the pre-woke era doesn't count as "real diversity" to the wokies, because it doesn't fit the narrative and agenda.
What gets renewed and what gets canceled never makes sense. A solid show with a good fallowing will get canceled while a show no one watches will continue to go on and on.
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Also Constantine is one of the horniest bi characters I can think off🗿
Constantine wasn't a CW show. It wasn't up to CW to keep it running. They just brought the actor into the arrowverse because they liked him.
Batwoman: “How much hate and shit talking could someone possibly have against my show?”
The Drinker: “Well, you’re about to fucking find out”
I read that in the Drinker's slurring drunk voice.
The Drinker: "Yes."
@Agnez Ummm... @The Critical Drinker can you remove this obvious spam comment? Including my comment if it is in fact removed? Or am I being too prude? I'm not a fan of censorship or blocking pornographic websites but I would hate to see this form of webcam advertisement become a trend in the comment sections of UA-cam.
@@kcbondurant7959 I report them, that's the most we can do. Usually for hate comments, cause maybe that's a faster way to get youtube's algorithm to flag it. Idk
i dont understand y the last man show got cancelled but cw batwoman doesnt like wtf?
Sometimes u just wanna watch an easy target getting obliterated by a boss.
Facts
yep... the producers need to understand that superheroes are for INCEL L-nerds, not for woke audience.
@@morganangel340 Wouldn't exactly call the superhero target audience incel l-nerds but yeah I get what you mean.
@@morganangel340 How are superhero enjoyers incels? Sounds like self projection, lmao.
summs up this youtube channel nicely
"The suit is perfection."
"It will be... Once it's back on the streets."
Line fixed.
Nerdrotic put it best: "I believe both and am rooting for neither"
Hey, he's an idea for a show: it's about the making of a really REALLY bad super hero program and the drama behind the scenes! Since the drama behind Batwoman is far more entertaining than the show itself...
Bojack Horseman? . .
_Death to Smoochy_ is a lot of fun
“What do you want the HERO to do?!”
The Actor has been ARRESTED!
“...Mind Control or Brain Damage?”
Flip for it! IDGAF!!!
XD
Only if we can get Chappelle to produce it.
@@brianjlevine Brilliant.
"A lesbian woman of Jewish descent."
Lost my shit right there!
A jewish woman of lesbian descent😁
The best Jewish superhero is Ben Grimm, or The Thing.
They could have made her Hassidic. Think of all the internal conflict she would have.
And bar one scene in an episode it never has any affect on her in one season or her father in two.
@@suimeingwong2043 Yeah and she could have used all of these funny yiddish words like 'schlemiel' or 'putz'.
My personal theory:
Working behind the scenes on the show WAS a hellish experience, and Ruby Rose WAS a spoiled, demanding diva. When that much egotism and belligerence from both sides gets together, the end results are never pretty. As for Dougray Scott, he probably DID want out of his contract ASAP due to the low quality of the show, its abysmal ratings, and what a thankless role he played on it, and probably was a little grumpy for a while when he was denied a way out until the end of Season 2.
Ruby Rose, then, having pretty much no prospects afterwards, brought up all this crap, leaving out her own nastiness and embellishing the studio heads' douchebaggery somewhat, for publicity. She then decided that in order for her claims to draw more attention, that she needed to take a page out of Amber Heard's toxic playbook and exploit the MeToo movement by throwing in an accusation of abuse against the most high- profile male member of the show's cast. Dougray Scott (The only person closely associated with the show who had really significant name- recognition) was the perfect target for her in that regard, so she heavily embellished how he acted after he was unable to get out of his contract. Problem is, Scott has moved on from the show and is currently trying to rebuild his career with more sophisticated fare (He is now back in his native Scotland shooting a British TV/ streaming adaptation of Irvine Welsh's novel 'Crime,' in which he'll be playing the lead), and so he won't take her slandering him to boost her own career sitting down, and so he's taking her bony butt to court over it.
Know Hbomberguy, adam?
How do you explain the things that happened to the crew members
@@josephnewsome2935 That ties into what I said right away that working on the show likely WAS a hellish experience, I'd imagine Ruby Rose wasn't completely lying about that. Caroline Dries and the other higher- ups involved in the show's production likely cared a lot more about the show's production staying on schedule than about the safety of their employees.
Kinda makes sense, i remember her being propped up as the emissary for lesbian actresses when Batwoman was being announced via controversy and the usual debauchery and now her career doesn't seem to go anywere, which is weird, because i remember her in the megalodon movie and she was alright.
Outside of that, it seems the showrunner is at fault, as the de facto director they have the obligation to make sure things go smoothly, including dealing with egoes
The most logical and rational theory here - however that ''bony ass'' part was petty and redundant. I mean, when criticizing someone shouldn't we focus on their behaviour and not on their bodies and looks??? Otherwise, it ruins your eloquent reasonable comment and makes it less objective/smart.
Before Batwoman, Az was known as Chaz. That show is so bad it took his "Ch" along with half of his soul and most of his hair. Az is the Gollum to Chaz's Smeagol.
PRECIOUS!!! I'm dying of laughter 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣😂😂
Due to Batwoman, Az's reaction ensured he was the model for a shivering doll that was sold to kids.
goddammit I should be sleeping, not laughing my ass off ya bastard!
That joke about Heelvsbabyface was a bloody riot, I'm sure he got a kick out of it too :)
A man's life is ruined though
@@drdeadbeat1604
These people just wamna be entertained, no matter who suffers
He responded to it, seemed to have had a laugh about it.
That’s actually a photo of Az from the future, after he, the Drinker, Mauler, and Gary B have been fused into the superbeing needed to fight the Amazon Muskbots.
You know you've arrived when The Drinker gently mocks you in one of his videos.
I think this production hell tops all others I'm aware of. With Rose's recent claims on what happened behind the scenes, it's even more incredible that this has been renewed. I think the lesson here is that if a show gets out THE MESSAGE, it's all worth it, no matter how much virtue-signalling BS, crew and actor abuse, and damage it causes in the process.
But that's the problem isn't it? It's not actually getting THE MESSAGE out to anyone particular who isn't already on board with it. It's money wasting echo chamber.
Watch his "The Abyss" production hell.....that was the worst!
@Agnez oh hey, thats probably where they'll get the next NEXT Batwoman.
Worst production hell I am aware of is the old Wizard of Oz. Toxic make up, body suites the actors couldn't take off during the 12 hours or so of filming causing them to over heat, unsafe pyrotechnics and of course characters getting replaced if they are injured on set to keep the production going.
It was made in something like the 1930's I think, sad to see nearly a hundred years later with workers Unions and the like nothing has really changed in hollywood when it comes to worker rights and safety.
@@JustaGuy_Gaming Dont forget that the snow in the poppy field was made of asbestos, and that the actress for Dorothy had to be constantly drugged in order to get through the absurd filming schedule. If im not mistaken, she was only allowed or able to get about 4 hours of sleep every 3 days or something.
"This lawsuit will be perfect when its designed for a woman."
I worked on the first season of Batwoman, and was actually present for a few of the events you mentioned. The assistant who had a crane lowered onto her head was actually hanging out where she shouldn't have been and was playing on her phone, not paying attention. It was largely her fault. But anyway, the show is terrible (and that's why I left after the first season), but there are a handful of great people on the crew who know it's shit but just want the paycheck. I was one of them. I can confirm that Ruby was rude to a lot of the people on set, though I never experienced that directly. Either way, I'm partial to the idea that the allegations against her are true.
wow, it's so cool to have an actual witness who worked on set!
btw if you don't mind could you tell me how you get in to this line of work? it's my dream to works in this industry but i don't know how to get started
I just want to say "the check cleared" is a respectable form of career management in Hollywood. Michael Caine can have much of his explained that way, for one.
@@alexmercer9649 for sure man, it's no problem at all. Like a lot of careers it all boils down to connections and who you know. If you know someone in the industry and they vouch for you when shows are crewing up, you can jump right in. If you don't know anyone, I'd recommend film school. That's the route I took, and while the education itself was largely useless the connections I made during my time there are what allowed me to find work upon graduation. You've got to be hungry and chase after those leads though, I'd say upwards of half of the people I went to school with didn't end up in the industry. That being said it's a ton of fun working on shows and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
@@Vyrnost thanks man!
I have asked around and pretty much everyone said the same thing you did so basically Is the same for every country.
Thanks for the advice but it's a little problematic for me,you see I actually just finished a two years course in screenwriting in naples south Italy, don't get me wrong the teachers were great but others school in the aerea provided multiple meeting with publisher and similar figures( my of course didn't) and in mid pandemic they cancelled the meeting at the local Comicon ( yep they basically stole the name to the "real one) so now i find myself without any money and without connections😅
I already know It'll be very hard to start in the field so i appreciate every advice, still thanks a lot for the answer.
@Elizabeth Bennett I was simply referring to the fact that I was one of the people on the crew who didn't like the show but wanted the paycheck. The "great people" are those I worked with who don't deserve any flak just because the show isn't popular. I can see how you could've misconstrued my wording and drawn your conclusions with a bit of mental gymnastics on your part, but to infer that I'm a narcissist and accuse me of that as a stranger on the internet is pretty wild. May wanna rethink YOUR words because you come across as having the mind of a child.
Once more, and really I cannot stress this enough:
*I'MMMAWOMAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!*
At this point the show is actually like I WANNAAAAAAAA DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
HEEERRRREEEEE I CCCCOOOOOMMMMEEE!!!!!
But god has blessed us with EFAP
Umm... Hear me roar???
This will never get unfunny
“Living embodiment of participation awards” lost it here and it kept going, love it Drinker…
I paused the video to read the comments having stopped lauging
"of all the hills to die on, this has to be the most undeserving mound of shit." The Critical Drinker
LMAO...
"Production Hell - Rust" is going to be really interesting a couple of years from now.
I’d be amazed if that movie even gets finished.
@@AmityFeatures hot take , Holy shit
@@AmityFeatures I hope they don’t take another shot at it!
Oooof
@@Garrett316 Well if they do, I hope Baldwin isnt the one to take that shot
The truth is that the character has been terrible since the comics created it. Batgirl is a much better character and Barbra Gordon is worlds more interesting
Absolutely but I don’t trust any TV or movie studio to do her justice so I’m glad that they’ve left her alone.
Isn't Barbara Gordon an ACAB BLM protester now?
@@frostlast768 We don't talk about characters in their present personas. A lot of comic book characters are social justice warriors right now.
Wait and see Punisher from MARVEL killing Christians, Sexists, Homophobes, Transphobes and all the other -phobes in due time.
@@frostlast768 They’re all disasters now. Gay Superman, Trans Amazonian…the list goes on.
@@rikumajumder1558 Wait, wait, wait, wait. Christians too?!?!
"abused women on set"
In today's day and age, that could just mean he was curt to them a couple times.
It could also mean he just looked at them.
Allowing a woman to walk through a door first is classed as a micro aggression, so maybe Dougray did that after ALSO opening the door first.
@Andi Magna wuy m8? You just hate whitey
Maybe he gave one of them a compliment. That bigot!
@@mudcrab3420 fr?
Damn I guess im micro-aggressive to literally every woman in my family because I hold the door.
Island of Doctor Moreau: I am the most dysfunctional production ever.
Batwoman: Hold my cheap plastic costume.
Cheap plastic costume? It was perfect, it fitted a woman.
Even better "hold my kraft beer"
For a production made up of such tolerant, loving, open minded and inclusive people, it all really just seems to be made up of hateful, spiteful dregs they like to think they are against.
Imagine my shock.
Almost as if only bad people feel the need to prove they are good.
It's almost like they don't practice what they preach...
All that virtue signaling is an effort to cover for their own misdeeds, many people in hollywood belong in jail.
Bingo.
I agree with the Critical Drinker. The problem lies somewhere in the middle. It's a more diplomatic way of saying that (mostly) everyone somehow contributed to this shite fest. Though I strongly believe the studio should take most of the blame...
I can actually beleave both sides honestly. I can beleave Ruby Rose saying that the enviroment was unproffesional and hostile, that people in charge yelled at everyone for everything, that the stunt and sfx crew were careless and that the producers threated her to return in less than 10 days, but i can also beleave CWs side here, because Ruby Rose was a diversity hire, she was hired not based on her skills, but her sexuality, also if you worked in such enviroment, soon or late you would also become part of the problem with how toxic and dangerous it is. There is no way that a show where the main character quitted after the first season, where she got an injury that almost paralyzed her and where the moral compass of everyone is based on their sexuality has 3 seasons and is ongoing whitow some kind of shady issue.
@@LordofSadFac the productions was probably hell, but I am willing to bet Rudy contributed a lot to that as past coworkers have complained about her being lazy and rude to many on set.
@@andrewcarlton6196 So, she's basically the stereotype.
@@goukeban6197 yes, stereotypes exists for a reason.
The show is a disgrace at best.
I did a day call which turned into about a week doing lighting on Batwoman when I lived in Vancouver. Didn't want to be on it as I'd heard some of the rumours but yes, I can vouch for that production assistant.
On one night shoot which started around 6:30pm at the Vancouver train station there was just one short stunt scene where Batwoman was meant to slide off a bike, have a short dialog and then dissappear. This was a 2nd team shoot so it should have been short shift (anything less than 12 hours is short, 15s would be standard at times). Everything was set up ready to start shooting yet Ruby sat in her chauffeured car for around 2 hours right next to set, for no reason, despite being called multiple times. We all had to stand around in the freezing weather, ice, snow and wind. It ended up being a 19 hour shift in the end. She had a stunt double and body double so she was only needed for the facial shots.
Another day we had only a couple of hours to do a last minute full on lighting for Vancouver city hall with no warning and limited equipment as again it was a 2nd team shoot.
It was a crappy production as a whole but that's the ugly nature of the film industry up in 'North Hollywood' as they call it. Ridiculous hours, low energy because of lack of sleep and no original ideas for the crews to even get slightly energized by. The safety standards there are extremely lacking too despite them putting millions into the ridiculous covid protocols and it is true about the production assistant that got severely injured. That made the DGC and IATSE union really start to make a bit more of a stand about conditions.
The pay may have been good but I cherish my time more than money nowadays. And thank christ I was only a day call. Its embarrassing to have put even some of my time into it.
That’s rough bro
OK I googled lesbian actress of Jewish descent and I came up with the perfect candidate to take over the role of Batwoman.
Miriam Margolyes appears to be the only woman I could find that meets that criteria. She is 80 years old but we can't allow ourselves to be ageist.
Why does the actor have to be lesbian or jewish? They're actors! Just pretend! What the fuck!
This comment screams bigot like holy shit
I am not sure what the twitterites were expecting here? Like did they want the Happy Merchant in Lipstick or something?
😂
Loved the sarcasm on this one. Brilliant.
I've never watched a single episode of this show, and yet I've had so much entertainment from it indirectly. So there's a positive in its favour, probably the only one by the sounds of it 😂 Thanks Drinker.
I managed to suffer through 3 episodes. They were progressively worse each time. (and i always give a show anywhere between 3-5 episodes. Sometimes they can have a rough start and then nail it later.) I couldnt even make 4 here. Awful awful shit
Idk if you checked out mooler's watch through of the first season but you should if you havent.
lol me neither, but I'm dying of laughter and watch every creator dumping on that sh*tshow
you had more fun not watching it 😂
What entertainment?
"I never once saw Scott be rude to another straight white man."
"Well, I was the only one there."
Know Some More News?
Just from my own experience, I've been around Dougray before, several times. He was nothing but kind, cool and polite. He's also a good dad, I've seen these things first hand. Never worked with RR, so I can't speak to her.
Almost NOBODY has worked with RR because, as we keep trying to tell you all, she is NOT AN ACTOR. Australians were like 'hahah oh wait, ur serious? the underwear model and 'DJ' who dates C-grade australian celebrities? Batwoman? No no no no no...." Americans seriously have a hard time telling when Australians can't act. The Hemsworth boys learned on the job, but they were soap actors at BEST before you guys decided they should be in movies. Joel Edgerton is the worst; so incredibly untalented it's like a long-running prank we're pulling on America. Heath Ledger surprised even us, though. Hollywood been trying to copy that story ever since. The rule now seems to be, if you're bad at acting with your natural Australian accent, go to Hollywood, where you can be a star. (But only if you're a genuinely nice person like Chris Hemsworth and not, say, Ruby Rose.)
@@GlennDavey tbf Chris Hemsworth has done well as Thor his brother however yeah he’s not been so good and yeah Heath Ledger surprised everyone as the joker (even tho knights tale existed but even that was a comedy) it was one of the best performances of all time and he was lost too soon.
@@GlennDavey *"as we keep trying to tell you all, she is NOT AN ACTOR."*
Honest question: Why does it seem like everyone calls women 'actors' now, and not 'actresses'?
@@FNA27601 I can't imagine why you think his Joker performance was great. It was entirely by-the-book and uninspired.
I have _no_ bias against Ledger. _A Knight's Tale_ is a good movie. I like _The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus._ But people are entirely blinded by bias when it comes to Ledger's Joker, simply because he died shortly afterward. One simply can not understand much about acting and think that there is anything special about Ledger's Joker portrayal. It's actually somewhat cringey at times for -- again -- how generic his interpretation of "crazy" is.
@@bricaaron3978 Cause who cares? Who really cares?
"not gay enough"
Yeah, thats twitter in a nutshell
Norm McDonald jokes have become reality
"Believe all women"
WB: "except for the ones who speak against WB".
* unless they're conservatives
* unless they're serving as a witness for the accused
* unless they're acting against things like feminism, abortion, and child indoctrination
* unless they're accusing a prominent left wing figure like in the Democrat or Labour Party
"Okay, we really don't want you to believe all women, just the ones we're using as meatshields to push our cultural Marxism and globalist agendas. We just use women because the vast, overwhelming, disgustingly demonstrable majority of you are gynocentric tuckfards who wouldn't, and in some cases didn't, give wahmxxn so much as a slap on the wrist for burning their own babies to death."
@@DaMaster012 You would like Hbomberguy and Some More News.
@@DaMaster012 Didn't now they hat internet in the Mental ward.
@@DaMaster012 please stick to qanon maybe jfk jr will show up next time
Tara Reade says, Hi!
So as far as the accusations go, Dougray Scott has been in film for decades and not one blip on the radar for bad behaviour. Ruby Rose as far as I can see has never been in any movie/tv series for more than one film/season. Usually younger actors will want to hang on to a job as long as possible. Going by that, I’d bet that CW will win the lawsuit against her. Here’s hoping she’ll go the way of the Lohan.
There have been also there cases of people complaining about her being lazy and rude to people so I do not really trust her
Every picture/video of Ruby Rose paints her as a miserable human being who's convinced of her own superiority.
If Scott has been in movies for so long, and is a respected actor... how'd he end up on a low-budget shitpile like _Batwoman_ to begin with...?
@@EVAUnit4A well hard to tell of a project will be shit or the next GoT.
@@EVAUnit4A he's 55. That's the age when many movie stars turn into TV stars. From Peter Falk to Angela Lansbury.
Plus it was a main starring role in the TV series so he's probably making about 50 Grand per episode with the potential for 250k if it had been a hit.
But I looked at the wiki and he does have a long list of credits and The Parent poster's right... Dougray doesn't have history of complaints from co-workers.
The "entertainment" industry managers do not hire the best talent these days. They hire relatives, their F&ск toys, buddies, and children of the "people important for business". Anyone and anything bur the best or even average talent. So, this is what we get in the outcome: garbage productions, bad attitude to criticism, endless filming set disasters, internal conflicts that become too evident in the productions themselves, etc. Thank you for this insightful review!
“These days”. All of entertainment has always involved nepotism seeing as it all started as family businesses.
c'mon this is the golden age of TV. A huge chunk of the top 50 TV shows of all time were created after 2004
@@kissit012 ethnic business even, the next level of nepotism
I think its somewhere in the middle.
Everyone was miserable, and now that Ruby has thrown the first punch the studio is circling the wagons and throwing out their own accusations.
Also, spiteful women tend to remember mildly confrontational events as huge blow ups when it suits their drama seeking.
Yeah, but then again spiteful companies tend to do the same thing to employees that open them up to huge lawsuits.
Don't assume that there is necessarily any truth whatsoever to what CW says about Rose. They are a desperate corporation with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line.
Even assuming Scott got pissed that he was stuck in this purgatory of a production, I'd rather buy that he was a dick to _everyone_ . Claiming he turned into a giant misogynistic asshole sounds a bit far out there, and could be an attempt of Ruby's to cancel him out of spite.
“Spiteful women” lol no need to be redundant. You can just say “women.” xD
My best guess is they are all entitled, narcissistic unhinged scum so I'm sure nothing is made up. Everyone is equally awful to each other all the time.
Can confirm your last sentence. Sounds like my wife
Poor Az. I hear the doctors have only given him 6 - 8 months.
Pray the show gets cancelled and he can be off that ventilator once and for all
6 to 8 months of Batwoman.
I was like, "Oh hey, a series about Batwoman. Can't imagine it'll be any worse than Flash, Arrow, etc. Might as well watch..." then I heard the boy say, "The Batsuit is utter perfection," then I heard her say, "It will be... when it fits a woman." Then I was like, "Nope. Not only is she too stupid to design her own, she disrespects the legacy of Batman, then is going to steal his stuff, then claim it as her own. Just like any other Feminist Activist Kleptomaniac. Not watching this shit."
I nearly puked in my mouth a little hearing that. Imagine if someone looked at Catwoman, and said, "I like your image... your symbol. However, I think it'll be better... if you weren't a woman."
I want to remind you, the girl didn't even say, "When it fits me." She said, "When it fits a woman." She was saying, "When Batman becomes Batwoman, only then will it be acceptable to us."
I'd rather watch a guy trying to fight crime in Michelle Pfiffer's catwoman suit. That'd be hilarious.
That's exactly it. With one line in the trailer they managed to insult their whole fanbase and made their new hero look stupid :D And I'm sure they weren't even aware!
A few episodes later, the tabloids start assuming she’s heterosexual, so she decides to come out as gay.
Because if you have a secret identity, you want to make sure supervillains get left little clues in order to be able to track you down, right?
"Wonder Woman, decent hero I guess but you know what would be literal perfection? Wonder Man." Somehow I don't think that would be well received.
@@WatanukiProductions Especially because everyone would be scratching their heads at how a Marvel character got into a DC production, lol.
0.47M people watched the season 3 opening. Constantine was cancelled mid-season at 3.3M viewership. Constantine throughout the short season 1 for the most part had 10x the audience of the Batwoman. Let that sink in.
Thats fucking sad
That's likely because Constatine had a higher budget. Batwoman is doing the same numbers as season 2, so I'm guessing they expect those numbers.
Ryan did a dam good job bringing life to the Hellblazer 🔥
Different networks. NBC fouled up, but CW wants to keen its 'verse running.
@@Maitch3000 Constantine had 7 times more people watching.... I doubt it's budget was 7 times higher.
“Understanding is a three edged sword: your side, their side, and the truth.”
Nice Babylon 5 reference there.
"...and starring a motley collection of has-beens and never-will-bes."
Damn, that feels like it especially hits hard for Dougray Scott. Dude was almost Wolverine in the 2000s X-Men movies but had to back out due to his Mission Impossible 2 role. He maybe could have had Hugh Jackman's career!
Glad he didn’t
I don't think he would have been willing to perform the physical transformation like Jackman.
Dougray Scott was also nearly cast as James Bond. It was down to him and Craig and they picked Craig. The guy who only did the last one for the money literally, and whom "hates bond." So yeah, that's loosing out on 2 major high profile roles only to end up as a villain in several hit films with mixed reception...and treated like one in batwoman because awful writers.
@@reprobatemind6194 Which is why Hugh Jackman‘s performance was superior. Wolverine like his animal name sake it’s not a big imposing person, but vicious as hell. There’s no way a skinny developed guy could’ve played that role
@@darkzak47 Why are we assuming that Scott wouldn’t have put any effort into it?
I am wholeheartedly impressed that you could endure this show. Mad respects. People don't realize how drunk you have to be to not simply go under. You feel like a pastor, ex-altar boy, with PTSD issues, passing on the misery you suffered to the next altar boy, along with the sight of the bottoms of two liquor bottles fresh in memory. That's how you feel after watching this show.
Just switch your brain off while watching to avoid brain damage!
Well, just before the Covid, the CW announced that they were going to remake a "Dark Shadows" series. Being a big fan of the original and the 90's remake, I thought great. When CW cancelled it, was disappointed. But now I am glad they are not ruining Dark Shadows as well.
I felt the same way
8:24 - This video is succinctly summed up in ONE SENTENCE: "Out of the hills to die on in this world, Batwoman has got to be the most undeserving mound of shit that I could imagine" 🤣 Well said Drinker!!
Seriously. The most unbelievable part of Rose's story is that the network was worried about losing millions by not being able to produce more episodes. They could have thrown up a test pattern on the screen during that time slot and gotten the same ratings.
Spoken like a true writer. Not something anyone connected with "Batwoman" could understand.
😂 😂 😂
"There's nothing like human suffering to get you in the mood". LOL
Some people are into that sort of thing. XD
The only time I watch anything related to Batwoman is, when the Drinker is ripping this apart
Even without the many members of the production stepping forward saying that Ruby was the issue, just based on her history its clear she has a real bad attitude problem. From the production crew of OITNB saying she wanted out and didn't gel with anyone to harassing her ex-girlfriend for over 4 months. She really doesn't seem like a very nice person to be around.
There was also an incident where she was socialising in a bar, ordered champagne worth $4k iirc, and skipped out, leaving her buddies to pick up the tab
"written and directed by the living embodiments of participation awards" Drinker , I *love* your prose.
🥃🥃
Color me surprised that someone that goes by Ruby Rose is a wee bit of a princess
Given Ruby's personality, and how she acts in every movie she's in, AKA playing herself, I'm more inclined to believe the studios recollection of events than hers. She's definitely the type that claims looking at a woman without permission is abuse/assault.
Getting yelled at for not knowing her lines, constantly showing up late because she was partying and getting high, and treating people on set like trash IS ABUSIVE!!! I can't believe she tolerated it. LOL
@@luciferthedoberman8991 Yeah! How DARE the expect a modicum of professional behavior from her!
These people can't even tell themselves the truth about what gender they are. You think they interface with the external world with any kind of perspective or reason?
@@UnitSe7en TBH. The current industry rewards people who have as many victim points as possible. The biggest reason she was hired was because she likes girls. Even though she bangs lots of high profile men, she was probably told to keep that shit under wraps for publicity sake.
@@UnitSe7en Course you insert a ass comment like this,everything is assumption with you people.
"3rd Degree Burns over his entire body..."
No. That is fatal.
Either Rose simply does not know what 3rd Degree Burns are and she is lying out of ignorance, or she is lying, or there was an actual death on set that no one is admitting to.
Dont 3rd degree burns fucking boil or burn your nerves?
@@braindavidgilbert3147 3rds are charred flesh/beyond superficial heavy burns. they are certainly lethal, but also survivable depending on circumstances. If this poor crew fella was covered in 3rds he could certainly survive but permanently messed up.
*"3rd Degree Burns over his entire body..."*
Maybe it's like "There are people all over the world", which doesn't mean that the world is literally coated in a layer of people. In other words, an exaggeration of the sort: "100% of his body was 10% burned.".
@@omegon3782 yes you can techincally survive 3rd degree burns and it's common but you'd end up in some permanently damaged postion with your body
But holy shit, 3rd degree all over the body? I don't fkin believe ANYONE could ever survive something like that
Wouldn't that level of damage be akin to Anakin after Mustafar?
There was a rumor about Rose’s injuries at some point : Allegedly, she would actually have gotten it while filming a movie who didn’t have proper insurance and then decided to put it on Batwoman production to get on their insurance.
YUP! She admitted she was in Romania when she hurt her neck, but she didn't have a work visa.
That has to be the most sadistically pleased "anyway, that's all I've got for today... GO AWAY NOW" that I've ever heard The Drinker utter.
Guilty or innocent, the defamation suit is Scott's best move here. The damage done by #MeToo on our culture has left "scorched earth" aggressive legal defenses the only viable path for protecting a man's reputation from allegations like these.
Even if the suit fails or is dismissed, people will take his denial more seriously because of it.
What may give Scott more credibility in the end is the fact that this information came out of left field. Other than the statement he released sucking off his handlers I imagine the suit came out of his own actions. If Ruby Rose wants to throw out allegations prove it in court. Like...you're supposed to do.
The fact that behind the scenes is more interesting than the actual show is quite telling.
I've had the monumental displeasure of working personally with RR. She is exactly as she is described by the production assistant
Any stories you can tell?
Spill the beans
And you haven't killed yourself? You're made if tougher stuff than the Hellbat suit!!!
@@andreivaldez2929 She immediately categorises people into "matter" and "don't matter", and then conducts herself accordingly. If you don't matter, she treats you like you're utter scum. Like you don't exist. As it turns out, I mattered in her assessment in the context in which we met, so I didn't receive this treatment - but everyone else did. Everyone. I found it almost breathtaking that anyone could be so rude.
Don't get me wrong, in the entertainment industry, you expect to deal with divas...and it's a dog-eat-dog industry, so I take it all with a grain of salt. But it's not that she was simply aggressive in a tough industry - she knows how to kiss the right asses and turn on the charm when there's something in it for her. It's that she ONLY EVER PUNCHES DOWN. Assistants, receptionists, customer service staff, baristas...anyone who she deems is of no benefit to her receives scathing, palpable contempt.
The worst part of it is, whilst she is borderline sociopathic towards others, she perpetually claims to be a victim. She bleats incessantly about her depression and anxiety and self harm and plays the victim card first time, every time. She claims to be a spokesperson for mental illness and a champion of the oppressed...yet I've seen her leave customer service staff virtually in tears with how horrendously rude she is.
I don't know how much people know about her pre-Hollywood, but she's Australian and was kicking around Sydney and Melbourne for years before she got placed in film. She as a reputation in particularly Sydney as being one to avoid. I know several people that saw her on a regular basis in a service provider context that ended up refusing to see her because she treated them so poorly.
It's tragic that young girls look up to her as a role model. She's poison, and if people knew the misery she inflicts on those around her, they'd think differently.
@@doghousereily It bugs me that she was even considered, considering her reputation. Probably "Acted" with them to seem like a decent person.
Can’t wait for Production Hell: Rust
"You miss all the shots you dont take."
--Alec Baldwin
It will be a killer.
@@scottski02 I stand behind Alec Baldwin….because I sure as hell won’t stand in front of him.
@@kylevernon had us in the first half not gonna lie
I'm imagining the russian roulette scene from Deer Hunter.
Mau! Mau!
(Slams down laptop) Scott: "What ya bring me?", Ruby: "Defamation and Slander", Scott (pulls out Desert Eagle).
We're reaching layers of inside jokes that shouldn't even be possible.
*pumps shotgun*
Looks like I'm hunting some bats tonight!
Scott: *Pulls out 10 million dollar lawsuit* Now, THIS is what’s known as “getting your gun off”.
(Kudos to whoever gets that reference)
“Production Hell”? The true Hell is for the viewers who chose to watch the end result! I can laugh, because I’ve never watched it, never had a desire to watch it, and never will watch it!!
Thank you, Drinker, for saving me from accidentally watching a single episode!!
No, the truest hell is to watch the show and having to write a positive review for it because you work for a shill website.
The lift incident happened when the person assigned to monitor the base and keep people aware of it's movements decided to sit UNDER THE ARM of the lift and poke at her phone. It didn't collapse .
The SFX guy was on his own truck, cutting some metal. A 30 year veteran. He forgot to seal a jar of black powder and a spark ignited it . Both tragedies,and I wish them well, but not indicative of an unsafe production Rose's account is all out of whack
Ruby Rose has a history of being difficult on sets. There's probably blame to go around on all sides but I certainly don't blatantly take her side on this one.
Weirdly there's no meantion of this difficulty to work with anywhere on the internet outside of Batwoman. Even an article about why people dislike her there's nothing about her being difficult to work with. Do you have any examples because I'm drawing a blank?
@@kevinsmarts9953 I completely believe she was difficult after a spinal injury like that and having to come right back to set.
@@TheAnomaly00 having just recovered from an injury that could've made you paraplegic for life and being forced to go back to filming a shitty CWC DC show would certainly make anybody pissed off beyond belief
Call me biased, but when it comes to diva-like behavior, demands, big-headedness and overall shitty behavior, at least in my opinion suits more to a diversity hire than to an experienced, well versed, respected actor. Could very well be that Ruby is confessing through projection and uses straight huwite male as a scapegoat in the process. I bet she really read deep into her contract after that injury and wanted out but couldn't so she upped the diva act hoping the studio will breach the contract or worse yet: tries to fire the diversity hire.
"The living embodiments of participation awards" 90% of modern Hollywood got hurt over this one
There was a Brit. comedy TV program called *Spy* that was absolutely great. They changed one of the actors for the second season and whenever a character noticed the character would simply assert he’d gotten a haircut, it was reasonably subtle and glorious.
Considering how Scott and the assistant are against Rose and not the studio I think it's safe to say the one causing the problems is probably Rose. We also haven't heard about any other accidents from anyone else which leaks would likely happen if the cast and crew were so unhappy. It's all claims coming from Rose who at this point doesn't seem to be a reliable source. Her story seems to have holes and contradictions which often means the person is leaving out details and not being truthful.
I just wonder how in the 80s and 90s when Jackie Chan and Sly Stallone still at peak they actually do their own stunt and having massive injury without anyone complaining, woke
It’s funny because a Batwoman show could work, if it had good writing and wasn’t filled with social justice pandering
Wokeness is What killing most of CW shows
Not with the cw
Also, if the show wasn’t made by CW
So Batwoman as a show could work, if it was nothing like Batwoman... Lol. Strangely enough I think your actually right there...😂
Pffff - it's still a Batman by-product of the lowest order (like, Batman with a vagina). Birds of Prey (the graphic novel, not the movie) at least had original heroines...
I think everyone could tell that Dougray Scott wasn’t happy, that much is obvious from his amazing performance that still managed to be the best part of the show. Can’t say I blame him though, from what we’ve heard and seen the show was an absolute nightmare.
Won’t say anything about those accusations towards him, so far it just looks like a he said she said type of thing. I’ll make up my mind when I see enough evidence although I do think it’s much more likely Ruby Rose was the actual problem
The "steamed pants" thing can really only be one of two things: Dougray Scott was so drunk he was using it as innuendo, or she's lifting reality into her own fantasy. The latter being all too possible because they do this on set/for clothing/etc. It's just not well-known so it might give her more to say but if that's all there is, him being drunk is about all there is, cause there's no way he wasn't.
@@oneandonlysound3453 A fellow soldier actually ironed the creases in his pants while he was wearing them right before we went to uniform inspection. I was sure he would burn himself but he didn't.
It's sad because if they tried really hard it could have been a mediocre and forgettable show like the rest of the Arrowverse.
The joke about Az going from an absolute Chad to being Crazy Az was UA-cam gold
Today's entertainment prioritizes sending messages towards audience mostly of them fails miserably and disappoints the audience instead of actually entertaining the Audience themselves.
@gilbert godfrey I agree man I miss when movies where only about entertaining the audience not telling us what's politically correct
"Dougray Scott abused women"
I mean, who else was on set for him to vent his frustration on?
Drinker-Fans will surely enjoy Hbomberguy, i bet. I dont bet money though, so dont even ask. I just bet vanilla.
Yeah?
@@mejdlocraftci Wow, what a weird reaction to just some casual recommendation for a youtuber.
@@loturzelrestaurant You have to go back. In Jesus’ Name.
"Watching it is like taking a gentle stroll though the reactor core of Chernobyl..."
EPIC!
Dougray Scott isn’t abusive, he’s just Scottish
Yet if he was English he'd be called British. Double standards
Critical drinker: Batwoman was a production hell.
Rust: Hold my beer....
I’d would like to say “too soon”
But in the case of Rust, you can’t be soon enough
That movie deserves a fair shot
Come on guys, have some respect. When you’re shooting a picture you don’t expect it to shoot back
This comment wins. This is gold.
lol, I mean the name of the movie itself is already like it's foreshadowing on how it gonna go through
Speaking of Kate Kain getting "plastic surgery to change her appearance", I remember that being a joke at the end of Bolt to show how money hungry the shows studio was. Kinda funny that it's being treated seriously now.
Two things can be true at once, the production could be a complete disaster and both Scott and Rose could both be massive tools on set. I doubt Scott is actually physically abusive but he probably just didn’t give a fook and let everyone know. Rose probably has a lot of resentment buildup after her injury. I can easily see where they both have reasons to be pissed off but I tend to give Scott some more leniency and benefit of the doubt because he’s worked on some big budget projects before and he’s the most competent actor there.
The only thing more incendiary than gas and a match, is two narcissistic assholes in a stressful environment.
Nah, if Scott physically hurt somebody it would have got out long ago. What was stopping Ruby leaking the info through an anonymous tip off if she was so aggrieved.
If Dougray Scott were guilty as Ruby Rose claims then he probably would have done what most guilty people do and issued an apology statement, then kept quiet in the hope that the story went away. Threatening to sue brings more attention to him which he probably wouldn't want if he were guilty. Or perhaps he's just really arrogant? Who knows?
We do know people were injured on set, including Ruby Rose herself, so since her most shocking allegations concern those injuries that would seem to contradict Scott Dougray's denials and the whole idea that the production was one happy family EXCEPT for Ruby Rose.
I lean more towards Ruby. Believe all wimmins, right?
@@SolidGoldCEO You can be massive asshole without ever facing repercussions on a poorly led, stress infused, low budget action series. The statement says he hurt a stunt double, just slap a bit too hard in that one take and dismiss the complaints of the actor afterwards. It's that easy.
Fuck, slap/hit/strangle that stunt double and then ruin the shot so you get to do it again.
I can relate to criminals fearing a 5'2" 100lb person confused about their gender. It's possible.🤣
That's like...an extremely exploitable weakness to give to a hero. All these "heroes" are so weak that the villains pretend they don't know how to beat them just so they don't feel bad.
Also apparently a makeup artist was hospitalised as well, how the hell did that happen? Stunt doubles is understandable because that is a risky job but makeup artists?....how?
Did Ruby punched the make-up artist?
Maybe the set is just *that* dangerous
I think I speak to everyone's inner Count Dooku when I say, *"I've been looking forward to this"*
The fact that Dougray Scott is threatening to sue rather than releasing an "I'm so sorry if I offended anyone" statement probably means he's telling the truth.
Most people who are guilty issue a quiet apology, then keep a low profile in the hope that the story goes away.
Threatening to sue brings more attention to the situation which most guilty people certainly wouldn't want.
Personally I think Dougray Scott has had enough of Rose and her BS, just like everyone else on the show.
And i find it highly amusing that the wokiest of wokey woke TV shows has eaten one of their own lol.
Either he's telling the truth about not abusing women on set, or he's an idiot. Likely the first, but then again actors aren't always the smartest people around. There would be women to either confirm or deny those allegations of abuse on-set, as well as dozens of witnesses if abuse occurred.
Same. Also I'm less inclined to believe a word Ruby Rose says largely because of the MeToo movement. We live in a world where women make up all kinds of bullshit to excuse their own shortcomings; I myself have personal experience with this. I have a "sister" (and I use that term as loosely as possibly) who is just like Ruby Rose. A stuck, self-centered, spoiled little drama queen who has belittled and bullied her co-workers at every job she's ever had while being a lazy sack of shit who can't be arsed to do anything, only to quit in a fit of rage and play the victim card so my parents wouldn't think she was a complete loser.
Suffice to say, it hasn't worked, and she's living on the streets now. She just got kicked out of a homeless shelter a few days ago.
More the other way around to me. If someone's suing for being called a peace of crap, they're usually an even bigger piece of crap. If they're not, they just say they're not the piece of crap and let their reputation speak for themselves.
I'm also inclined to not believe Rose because the guy who plays Luke Fox (a.k.a. Batwing) also chimed in to say how much she made working on the show suck.
He could be covering his ass tho, but honestly, I dont care enough to be inclined to either
I ♥️ HeelvsBabyFace. I know he looks like someone who tried to get into the Tardis, just to get the door literally shut in his face... but hey, I hear the Dursleys have an opening...
Everyone should just blame "THE CW", because let us be honest here, we ALL know what that stands for:
*THE CRINGE WIZARDS*
No one else concocts such potent potions of cringe like they do. They are the wizards of cringe.
I mean there was a time when the CW was good.... though it's been a few decades. I remember things like Buffy, Charmed and such being good on it back in the day. The original stuff, not the remakes.
I call them 'Critically Woke'.
@@JustaGuy_Gaming I agree, I'm a huge fan of 'Buffy' (Also 'Angel') and I love 'Charmed' and 'Smallville' too, but nowadays its just crap.
Cartoon Wetwork?
I liked Supernatural. Saw every episode. Two white male leads. It happened.
"Of all the hills to die on..."
That's a great way to look at it. Pick your battles wisely, people.
Batwoman: A show that defies all known laws of logic and can even drive sane men to lunacy, who just want to watch the world burn. (Az and Thomas Unlimited for example)
>An on-set accident turns a crew member into literal Two-Face
>CW: "Ayt, time for a sex scene"
Can't wait for the Rust Production Hell
Do we get production hells for unfinished products? Because I have doubts about them finishing this one.
@@MutantBamHammer he made a video about the nick cage superman movie so why not this?..
I'm sure Drinker will give it a shot.
I think this probably comes down to Rose, regarding all the ‘who is at fault’. I seem to recall reading about how Jason Statham thought she had the worst attitude of any actress he worked with, and as such they had very limited screen time together, because there was always a risk of tempers flaring. Sounds like Rose is just trouble.
Though the film has a die-hard set-up that would lead to them naturally not being on screen a lot at once, it's overly noticeable Ruby's last film "The Doorman" with Jean Reno to the point where some of there exchanges might've not even been filmed at the same time. There other interactions are basically over the phone or nonexistent. She also doesn't really interact with the cast outside of the nerdy tech girl in TripleX3: Return Of Xander Cage. Caroline Dries may be a hack moron and the show is a budgetary and woke disaster but Ruby must be a real nuisance. Even her character in RE: Final Chapter seemed like something was cut out or just not filmed like the other cast (including actual strong females, Alice-Milla Jovovich and Ali Larter as Claire too really) couldn't stand her either.
@@oneandonlysound3453 Well, that sounds like trouble. Hollywood poison. Don’t think we’ll see too much of her in anything big for a while.
Regardless on who's telling the truth. I do appreciate a studio/company actually fighting back instead of rolling over as we've time and time again in the last few years. It made me laugh just because of that if anything else.
It's fun watching them devour each other. 😆 Lol
She hated it so much that she said she was open to coming back in March. So horrible.
Yeah. So hating on it when she was still starring in some tv movies and either did or had chances to be in big budget blockbusters. Even with her mid-acting at best, much worse cause most are generally worse on the CW. Dougray Scott just gets more drunk and looks like hell as the show goes on. Ruby Rose asking to still return but gets recast with Wallis Day. I don't doubt production was a disaster zone, but Ruby Rose blaming everyone but herself? Yeah, sure, that's totally believable. No wonder why even in this day and age the studio defended Dougray Scott. Not that WB has a soul when they make up reasons to fire people but still went through with the flush and didn't recast amber turd.