It's uncanny how I lately I've been planning my escape to freedom from a job I hate, then this video pops up lol! I have to say, as I was discussing with a coworker how dissatisfied we are, I realize I do "not mind" working there- the problem we both have is how the business is run. When you have a company that micromanages everything, from how to engage with clients the way they want you to (when you know it doesn't work) to what you should wear, and add to that a manager who plays favorites and gaslights you, it makes for an unecessarily stressful working environment. Maybe that would be a good topic for a video- how to deal with being micromanaged. For now I'll stay until I find better work, or hopefully win the lotto. Thank you for a clear, informative video!
I never had a bad experience quitting.... Provide proper notice, reasoning for the change etc. Everyone always said it's a loss for the company, but they congratulate me for the opportunity. (Disclaimer: I never quit because I didn't like a company/manager) Also: You NEVER owe anything to a company or manager. You get paid for providing a service to the company, nothing more
Things must have changed since I lived there in the 1990s. I did have 3 jobs during the 4 1/2 years during that period, where I was given notice. As I recall, if you made it past 90 days, they had to give notice and so on. Most jobs I had, they fired me around day 80-85. The first time I passed the 90 days on a job was when they constantly checked my output during the notice period, which prompted me to quit. The Arbeitsamt didn't appreciate the actions of the company when I told them why I quit on that occasion.
Thank you so much! I just put in my first two weeks notice and this video and accompanying article really helped me. My boss is typically quick to anger or say snide comments but luckily she didn't rip into me! If you have a regular check-in I'd suggest saying your peace there instead of creating an additional meeting, if possible. Best of luck to everyone! Ps. Listening to Break My Soul afterwards is therapeutic
Love the fresh honest creative presentation of an old tale. Perspectives from a real manager and you. A mock resignation but it still gives you butterflies. It's like letting go of a part of yourself. You spent months job searching, submitted 100 resumes and endured 4 rounds of an interview marathon for this position. Now you want to walk away.
I have this experience of quitting. But I am really different than you. I am really patient employee and tolerate everything with a smile. But there's a limit to my patient. Finally, I quit without giving any reason and allowing smooth transition of my duties.
Thank you for this video and the one who made this. This particular video gave me courage and knowledge how will i end my stagnant work for almost 3 years. Exactly today I am free and eager to move forward 💪🏼
Nice video Christine! I had my conversation with my manager last Friday and submitted my resignation on Monday. All good for now. Three weeks to work in the transition. Much different sensation to my first two resignation experiences.
Did these steps not long ago and those were actually helpful. Thanks for summarize these in a really attractive and informative way. The key, in my opinion is to be honest (optional, of course, it's personal) and sincere with whatever you say or do in these kinda tough times. That would really help the quitting process. Good luck!
This video was great. Seeing how Christine put it in practice is really motivating. Also for the fact that a lot of tips were being mentioned throughout the video.
Great video and thanks for sharing. I would also recommend that you have all of your affairs wrapped up and ready to step immediately out of the office/manufacturing plant. Often times, employers will not handle this well and expect you to leave immediately so you don't damage the team, encourage others to quit or they just don't want to look at you anymore :-) If that were to happen and you didn't have your personal reminders and contacts off of you laptop / phone, you will end up hurting yourself in the short term. Keep the great videos coming.
Wow, I never experienced it like that. In Germany we usually have to provide 3 months notice (but employers have to do the same, so you don't sit on the street from one day to another...). Led to some weird situations though, where managers asked me to not mention it to the team until shortly before leaving.
Hi Gerry, thanks for sharing that perspective! Doesn't hurt to have all your affairs in order. Always useful to trust your gut on how you think the showdown will go down. -Christine
@@89DerChristian So interesting. Thanks for sharing your perspective, and I'm sorry you were put in that awkward bind by your managers. Waving hello to Germany from Boston! -Christine
I quit too, a few years ago. A very well paying corporate job, but I HATED working for a boss and all I wanted was FREEDOM. Though I DID quit, I NEVER took the leap and I always advise people not to leap but have a clear plan in place and transition. So much better to KEEP money and not be in financial stress figuring out what to do next!
Just listened to your request and followed you on LinkedIn haha! You are truly a rockstar, your videos are so refreshing. Thank you for creating this amazing content
Referring to the end of the video --> I'm a straightforward person that appreciates 2 way communication, but what if my bosses are the opposite? How do I get them to be honest with me more often?
Thank you so much for this Christine! The role play you had with Laura was exactly how it went for me and my former boss. It was really difficult because I really liked her but I had to leave for personal reasons.
@@harvardbusinessreview at first I was worried but decided to trust god / universe and now I’m doing private bartending on weekends & my other creative ventures. That job was sucking my soul 😂
I've either quit or been fired from almost every civilian job I've ever had. Some of them, I got along well with the manager and told them I was quitting. In 2 or 3 cases, the jobs ended because the contract expired. In most cases, neither I nor my boss gave any notice. In most cases, I just stopped going to work. Once, my bosses called me repeatedly to come to work, find out if I was sick, etc. In spite of being constantly belittled nagged at work. Most bosses figure it out pretty.fast or they officially fire you for not coming to work. If management ever actually abided by their own notice rules, I'd probably do the same, but that hasn't been my experience. I've been given notice on 3 occasions and in 1 of those, I quit going to work during the notice period. I've given notice on several occasions, early in my working life, but I was fired for doing so almost every time. And in an "at will" state, the second you're fired, the job is over. The result of these experiences is that, my method of quitting is to just not go to work.
I’m curious, about a situation, where the employee has reasons to quit (various: personal, philosophical, a structural ceiling preventing further growth, potential external opportunities), and how to gracefully leave. The current three year contract is coming to an end, there was a verbal expression of interest in staying about two months earlier to accept an extension, but a new contract has not been offered as yet, and no further communication/discussion from the company. At what point does the lack of communication, nor contract being put on the table, make a decided departure more the responsibility of the company?
I've been in this position. I got a 6 month extention and when that extention was coming to an end I waited for them to say something. It was implied I'd be extended again. So I waited till about 3 weeks from my end and asked if im going to be extended because if not I need to "plan for my future". Upon reminder they extended me another 6 months. This bought me time to look for a permanent job. If the job doesn't consider you vital enough to have a game plan for you that is clearly communicated, it's time to move on. If you are close to the end approach the subject like I did, but definitely start looking for permanent or better now.
I have been trying to create a side hustle and educate myself at the end of the day to quite my job though by then I am often exhausted from a 14 hour day at the job I don’t like. I got this job where an employment specialists picked one for me since I was not good for looking for jobs online and definitely was not what I wanted to grow from. Since originally I had a plan laid out that I have been writing down for 8 years to start a business.
Any advice for someone who's required to give a whole month's notice (as per contract) and with a boss who has a tendency to guilt trip and how to make it through that notice period? I work in healthcare/retail where there's a particularly severe shortage of those practicing my profession at the moment and I've already tried to address issues like chronic understaffing of support staff and pay (increased but not to the point where it's worth the stress)
Have others been fired during the notice period? I was given notice once, about 2 weeks before the job was supposed to end, but every time I finished some piece of work, a flunky from the office would check it. So I just stopped going to work.
I just got an offer and am going to be putting in my notice soon. My situation follows a very contentious search for my new boss and I didn't agree with the hiring decision. Any tips for quitting a boss that you really don't know?
Hi Christine, you're amazing! how can we manage whit the directors that the employees are uncomfortable because they check every time when we arrive at the office when you leave it etc. I tried it but they don't accepted it and continue with that but each day it situation is worst :(
Have you ever quit a job before? How did it go? -Christine
Most of the time, officially quitting merely annoys the bosses. If I don't want a confrontation, I just stop going.
It's uncanny how I lately I've been planning my escape to freedom from a job I hate, then this video pops up lol! I have to say, as I was discussing with a coworker how dissatisfied we are, I realize I do "not mind" working there- the problem we both have is how the business is run. When you have a company that micromanages everything, from how to engage with clients the way they want you to (when you know it doesn't work) to what you should wear, and add to that a manager who plays favorites and gaslights you, it makes for an unecessarily stressful working environment.
Maybe that would be a good topic for a video- how to deal with being micromanaged. For now I'll stay until I find better work, or hopefully win the lotto. Thank you for a clear, informative video!
I never had a bad experience quitting.... Provide proper notice, reasoning for the change etc.
Everyone always said it's a loss for the company, but they congratulate me for the opportunity.
(Disclaimer: I never quit because I didn't like a company/manager)
Also: You NEVER owe anything to a company or manager. You get paid for providing a service to the company, nothing more
Hi Christian, glad your track record has been a smooth one! Thanks for sharing. -Christine
You mean, I have to give notice, BUT my boss can my fire me and throw me out in five seconds?
@@StuJones-gn7te not in Germany, no idea how it is elsewhere
Things must have changed since I lived there in the 1990s. I did have 3 jobs during the 4 1/2 years during that period, where I was given notice. As I recall, if you made it past 90 days, they had to give notice and so on. Most jobs I had, they fired me around day 80-85.
The first time I passed the 90 days on a job was when they constantly checked my output during the notice period, which prompted me to quit.
The Arbeitsamt didn't appreciate the actions of the company when I told them why I quit on that occasion.
Thank you so much! I just put in my first two weeks notice and this video and accompanying article really helped me. My boss is typically quick to anger or say snide comments but luckily she didn't rip into me! If you have a regular check-in I'd suggest saying your peace there instead of creating an additional meeting, if possible. Best of luck to everyone! Ps. Listening to Break My Soul afterwards is therapeutic
This is what I needed! Thank you, Christine! I will quit tomorrow. :)
Greetings from Colombia! 🇨🇴
Love the fresh honest creative presentation of an old tale. Perspectives from a real manager and you. A mock resignation but it still gives you butterflies. It's like letting go of a part of yourself. You spent months job searching, submitted 100 resumes and endured 4 rounds of an interview marathon for this position. Now you want to walk away.
I have this experience of quitting. But I am really different than you. I am really patient employee and tolerate everything with a smile. But there's a limit to my patient. Finally, I quit without giving any reason and allowing smooth transition of my duties.
Thank you for this video and the one who made this. This particular video gave me courage and knowledge how will i end my stagnant work for almost 3 years. Exactly today I am free and eager to move forward 💪🏼
Nice video Christine! I had my conversation with my manager last Friday and submitted my resignation on Monday. All good for now.
Three weeks to work in the transition.
Much different sensation to my first two resignation experiences.
Did these steps not long ago and those were actually helpful. Thanks for summarize these in a really attractive and informative way. The key, in my opinion is to be honest (optional, of course, it's personal) and sincere with whatever you say or do in these kinda tough times. That would really help the quitting process. Good luck!
This video was great. Seeing how Christine put it in practice is really motivating. Also for the fact that a lot of tips were being mentioned throughout the video.
Great video and thanks for sharing. I would also recommend that you have all of your affairs wrapped up and ready to step immediately out of the office/manufacturing plant. Often times, employers will not handle this well and expect you to leave immediately so you don't damage the team, encourage others to quit or they just don't want to look at you anymore :-) If that were to happen and you didn't have your personal reminders and contacts off of you laptop / phone, you will end up hurting yourself in the short term. Keep the great videos coming.
Wow, I never experienced it like that. In Germany we usually have to provide 3 months notice (but employers have to do the same, so you don't sit on the street from one day to another...).
Led to some weird situations though, where managers asked me to not mention it to the team until shortly before leaving.
Hi Gerry, thanks for sharing that perspective! Doesn't hurt to have all your affairs in order. Always useful to trust your gut on how you think the showdown will go down. -Christine
@@89DerChristian So interesting. Thanks for sharing your perspective, and I'm sorry you were put in that awkward bind by your managers. Waving hello to Germany from Boston! -Christine
I quit too, a few years ago. A very well paying corporate job, but I HATED working for a boss and all I wanted was FREEDOM.
Though I DID quit, I NEVER took the leap and I always advise people not to leap but have a clear plan in place and transition.
So much better to KEEP money and not be in financial stress figuring out what to do next!
Just listened to your request and followed you on LinkedIn haha! You are truly a rockstar, your videos are so refreshing. Thank you for creating this amazing content
Referring to the end of the video --> I'm a straightforward person that appreciates 2 way communication, but what if my bosses are the opposite? How do I get them to be honest with me more often?
Thank you so much for this Christine! The role play you had with Laura was exactly how it went for me and my former boss. It was really difficult because I really liked her but I had to leave for personal reasons.
Wow I just resigned from my job yesterday. Perfect timing
Hi there, good timing indeed! How are you feeling right now? Sending my best wishes. -Christine
@@harvardbusinessreview at first I was worried but decided to trust god / universe and now I’m doing private bartending on weekends & my other creative ventures. That job was sucking my soul 😂
Man I love your videos! Maybe a video on how to stop office gossip without being the office drip?
Wow - I got nervous for you even in the simulated practice for a simulated quitting discussion! Thanks for the tips.
Perfect timing.
My phone just pulled this up for me too!! Hoping your transition goes well:)
@@viktoriaakhmedova5476 Same! Sending you well wishes. -Christine
Hi MAN45, hope you found this helpful. Best of luck with your transition. -Christine
haha just resigned yesterday. This video was so relieving.
Hi Deepak, how are you feeling now? Thanks for stopping by and sharing! Let me know how it's going. -Christine
@@harvardbusinessreview Thanks for your revert. Means a lot. And I will make it a smooth transition for sure. Thanks :)
I've either quit or been fired from almost every civilian job I've ever had. Some of them, I got along well with the manager and told them I was quitting. In 2 or 3 cases, the jobs ended because the contract expired.
In most cases, neither I nor my boss gave any notice.
In most cases, I just stopped going to work. Once, my bosses called me repeatedly to come to work, find out if I was sick, etc. In spite of being constantly belittled nagged at work. Most bosses figure it out pretty.fast or they officially fire you for not coming to work.
If management ever actually abided by their own notice rules, I'd probably do the same, but that hasn't been my experience. I've been given notice on 3 occasions and in 1 of those, I quit going to work during the notice period.
I've given notice on several occasions, early in my working life, but I was fired for doing so almost every time. And in an "at will" state, the second you're fired, the job is over.
The result of these experiences is that, my method of quitting is to just not go to work.
Thank you Christine. I've to start my career after college and I'm already getting good advices on how to quit
It's odd how timely this video is.
Hope you're holding up OK! -Christine
Gonna quit as soon as I get a better opportunity. Hopefully gonna use this stuff real soon
Always a good idea to line up a job before you quit one if at all possible.
Hi there, I'll be rooting for you. Good luck and let me know how it goes. -Christine
So useful!
Any advice for people whose notice period is 2 - 3 months ? It’s a really awkward time.
I don't believe that's legally binding. I've only given notice a couple of times and on those occasions, I got fired for giving notice.
I’m curious, about a situation, where the employee has reasons to quit (various: personal, philosophical, a structural ceiling preventing further growth, potential external opportunities), and how to gracefully leave. The current three year contract is coming to an end, there was a verbal expression of interest in staying about two months earlier to accept an extension, but a new contract has not been offered as yet, and no further communication/discussion from the company. At what point does the lack of communication, nor contract being put on the table, make a decided departure more the responsibility of the company?
I've been in this position. I got a 6 month extention and when that extention was coming to an end I waited for them to say something. It was implied I'd be extended again. So I waited till about 3 weeks from my end and asked if im going to be extended because if not I need to "plan for my future". Upon reminder they extended me another 6 months. This bought me time to look for a permanent job. If the job doesn't consider you vital enough to have a game plan for you that is clearly communicated, it's time to move on. If you are close to the end approach the subject like I did, but definitely start looking for permanent or better now.
I have been trying to create a side hustle and educate myself at the end of the day to quite my job though by then I am often exhausted from a 14 hour day at the job I don’t like. I got this job where an employment specialists picked one for me since I was not good for looking for jobs online and definitely was not what I wanted to grow from. Since originally I had a plan laid out that I have been writing down for 8 years to start a business.
When a company general manager asking for only 8 cent short means, its showing some different mindset.
Any advice for someone who's required to give a whole month's notice (as per contract) and with a boss who has a tendency to guilt trip and how to make it through that notice period? I work in healthcare/retail where there's a particularly severe shortage of those practicing my profession at the moment and I've already tried to address issues like chronic understaffing of support staff and pay (increased but not to the point where it's worth the stress)
Have others been fired during the notice period?
I was given notice once, about 2 weeks before the job was supposed to end, but every time I finished some piece of work, a flunky from the office would check it. So I just stopped going to work.
I tried to do this method. Failed. Please post a lesson on how to quit a job that was chaotically toxic.
Most jobs are at will. Even if it isn't, you don't have to officially quit. Just stop going to work.
What will they do? Not illegal.
I really like you, Christine! I enjoy your videos! Keep it coming :)
I just got an offer and am going to be putting in my notice soon. My situation follows a very contentious search for my new boss and I didn't agree with the hiring decision. Any tips for quitting a boss that you really don't know?
Hi Christine, you're amazing! how can we manage whit the directors that the employees are uncomfortable because they check every time when we arrive at the office when you leave it etc. I tried it but they don't accepted it and continue with that but each day it situation is worst :(
how to do self-care?
Is it bad if you quit your job before accomplishing anything?
Why? Most jobs are pretty.pointless. cog in the machine.
“take this job and shove it”
did u really quit?
I feel like they were too kind to employers here
Really....
Just say it: I'll have a much better boss.
Your results may vary, but I think it's safest to keep it close to the chest. Rarely is it worth burning a bridge! -Christine
"Burning a bridge?" If you hate the job now, it probably won't be a better job in 1, 2 or 10 years from now.
I will tell you the best way to do it , just quit and have no regrets :D
how to 401K ?
This was so good! Informative and entertaining. Those 12 minutes flew by and I learned a lot.
Thanks HBR.
Hi James, appreciate your kind feedback! There's more in store for season 3. -Christine