And Bill just ignoring her the whole time. This is a good glimpse into their dynamic. He doesn’t mind so much that she’s having a good time with her friends and garnering flirtation from other men, so long as she’s always there when he calls. It’s like he expects her to never leave him. And it’s Nancy who walks after him by the end of the number. He doesn’t even turn around because it’s understood she’ll follow. I think she feels trapped, knowing he takes care of them & gives her a decent place to stay, keeps her off the streets or in a worse living situation. Nancy’s very independent, but she’s not naive enough to think she can make it on her own as a woman in that time period. I’d be interested to know their origin story. I can see Bill being kinder and more loving to her in the beginning, but as time went on, and he knew he had her, he stopped and grew colder. Nancy mourns for the man she once knew and fell in love with, hoping one day they can go back to how they were. It’s partly why she stays and puts up with him. Bill seems to be fond of her, in his own way. It’s the little ways he smiles and nods to her in the beginning of the scene, the way she beams and seems to light up. She lives for those little moments, because it’s remnant of who he used to be. Those moments may be partly genuine on Bill’s end but also partly manipulative, to keep her with him. Subtle love-bombing.
@@ColleenMcShea It's been a long time since I read the novel. There's a lot in it that either didn't make it into the musical, or it was altered. Dodger ended up being shipped to the penal colony in Australia, for example. Bill Sikes was an abusive manipulator, plain and simple. He knew how to make Nancy think that any violent actions on his part were her fault, and how to make her think he still loved her.
Noticed a few things about this scene Bill never says anything but he does things with gestures and that he doesn’t like to touch people. He doesn’t outright ignore her, but he seems to give Bullseye more attention than to her. Nancy sings about how fine her life is even if you have to go without things. Even how Bill treats her in this scene speaks volumes, like when she pours drinks for herself and Bill and he stops her from even having a drink with him.
I first watched this as a kid and was completely enchanted by Nancy and her voice. Her death was so shocking I still think of it to this day. What a powerful character !
I was 7 when the film came out and I don’t think I had ever seen a lead and essentially good character murdered in a film or on television or in any of my books. I was so shocked, I agree, it doesn’t leave you. My Dad took me to see the movie as an introduction to Dickens, he loved Dickens and said that when Oliver Twist was first serialised in the 1830s, the whole country was deeply shocked by Nancy’s fate. I still remember how Bullseye betrays Bill Sykes’ location at the end, as Bill has done the unforgivable. Dickens was a genius to combine social commentary with such wonderful stories and characters and Bart was equally brilliant in capturing almost everything in the fantastic musical he created.
The beautiful and extremely talented actress, singer, dancer, entertainer and performer Shani Wallis should have received the Golden Globe Award, the BAFTA Award, the Screen Actors Guild Award, and the Academy Award for best actress in a motion picture for her brilliant and excellent portrayal of Nancy in the 1968 classic movie Oliver! It should be Dame Shani Wallis! Shani Wallis is the best and one and only Nancy ever! The 1968 classic movie is one of my favorite movies of all time! I was born in late fall of 1978. This movie musical number is fantastic! Thank you for posting and sharing this excellent movie musical number!
#KatherineHepburn won the best actress Oscar for The Lion in Winter that year. (1969) It underlines the difficulty of comparison between comedic/musical roles & serious drama. Oliver! did win best film & best director tho, the last musical to win best picture until #Chicago. (2002)
I think Charles Dickens would be pleased with Oliver Reeds performance as Bill Sikes I have heard from the cast that he was a big man which was intimidating and he could be frightening but never hurt them but he was a great motivator getting them moving during scenes! Shani who plays Nancy says she got the part because she could do a really good cockney accent and this was her favourite scene to film during the movie as it was fun! It would have been sad in those Victorian days if you were poor it was a hard life from food,clothes,jobs,places to live and how the rich treated you! I like in this scene how Nancy is singing and flapping her petticoat while Bill is just focusing on himself and bulls eye. I also like that the only words you hear from Bill are at the end of this him in his deep voice calling for bulls eye, Sir Carol Reed did a great job at directing this and no remake would ever beat his version it's timeless! This movie Will continue to be watched and loved by many generations to come!
He’s got more affection for his dog than he does for Nancy, notice how when she pours him his drink he stops her from pouring one for herself and when she brings him his food he doesn’t offer her any of it
Man it's so weird that when I was a kid, this seemed like such a happy, joyous song, but as an adult it kind of makes me sad... Don't know if that's because I'm listening to the lyrics properly, or because I understand the subtext of the scene better, but it's very strange.
That’s why it’s such a brilliant musical based on one of the greatest novels ever. Both work equally well for children and adults alike. Oliver Twist is a rip-roaring adventure filled with wonderful characters and an illuminating and often damning, though not unsympathetic, commentary on the society and mores of that time. Lionel Bart’s genius was not to lose anything of Dickens in his adaptation, possibly because he came from exactly this place and this kind of background 100 years later.
Though you sometimes do come by The occasional black eye You can always cover one 'Til he blacks the other one But you don't dare cry!- Sing it louder girls!!!! LOL!
Brilliant Movie and Performance! Shani Wallis is Brilliant as Nancy! Nancy is a tragic figure! Nancy is a good person! Bill Sikes is a cruel murderer and robber! Nancy and Bet are best friends! In the novel, Oliver Twist, after Bill Sikes brutally murders Nancy, Bet is hysterical and unconsolable. In the novel, Bill Sikes is haunted by his heinous brutal murder of Nancy! Bill Sikes in the novel and in the movie is brooding and evil! Nancy is the only person kind enough to love him! The 1968 Classic Musical Movie, Oliver! is superior to the classic novel!
Robbie Hagberg do you want to go to the store tomorrow morning if that works for you to come over and get it tomorrow and get the car back to the store and then go to work and the other
And Bill just ignoring her the whole time. This is a good glimpse into their dynamic. He doesn’t mind so much that she’s having a good time with her friends and garnering flirtation from other men, so long as she’s always there when he calls. It’s like he expects her to never leave him. And it’s Nancy who walks after him by the end of the number. He doesn’t even turn around because it’s understood she’ll follow. I think she feels trapped, knowing he takes care of them & gives her a decent place to stay, keeps her off the streets or in a worse living situation. Nancy’s very independent, but she’s not naive enough to think she can make it on her own as a woman in that time period. I’d be interested to know their origin story. I can see Bill being kinder and more loving to her in the beginning, but as time went on, and he knew he had her, he stopped and grew colder. Nancy mourns for the man she once knew and fell in love with, hoping one day they can go back to how they were. It’s partly why she stays and puts up with him. Bill seems to be fond of her, in his own way. It’s the little ways he smiles and nods to her in the beginning of the scene, the way she beams and seems to light up. She lives for those little moments, because it’s remnant of who he used to be. Those moments may be partly genuine on Bill’s end but also partly manipulative, to keep her with him. Subtle love-bombing.
Never thought of it like that, but you're right!
Smart & well written analysis. Just wonder if the novel supports it (??)
@@ColleenMcShea It's been a long time since I read the novel. There's a lot in it that either didn't make it into the musical, or it was altered. Dodger ended up being shipped to the penal colony in Australia, for example.
Bill Sikes was an abusive manipulator, plain and simple. He knew how to make Nancy think that any violent actions on his part were her fault, and how to make her think he still loved her.
@@ColleenMcSheahaha probably not, i just like speculating my own backstory
Wouldn't be surprised if Nancy was also still on the streets--and picking pockets--to bring in a second income. Which Bill would take for granted.
Noticed a few things about this scene
Bill never says anything but he does things with gestures and that he doesn’t like to touch people. He doesn’t outright ignore her, but he seems to give Bullseye more attention than to her.
Nancy sings about how fine her life is even if you have to go without things. Even how Bill treats her in this scene speaks volumes, like when she pours drinks for herself and Bill and he stops her from even having a drink with him.
I first watched this as a kid and was completely enchanted by Nancy and her voice. Her death was so shocking I still think of it to this day. What a powerful character !
I was 7 when the film came out and I don’t think I had ever seen a lead and essentially good character murdered in a film or on television or in any of my books. I was so shocked, I agree, it doesn’t leave you. My Dad took me to see the movie as an introduction to Dickens, he loved Dickens and said that when Oliver Twist was first serialised in the 1830s, the whole country was deeply shocked by Nancy’s fate. I still remember how Bullseye betrays Bill Sykes’ location at the end, as Bill has done the unforgivable. Dickens was a genius to combine social commentary with such wonderful stories and characters and Bart was equally brilliant in capturing almost everything in the fantastic musical he created.
The beautiful and extremely talented actress, singer, dancer, entertainer and performer Shani Wallis should have received the Golden Globe Award, the BAFTA Award, the Screen Actors Guild Award, and the Academy Award for best actress in a motion picture for her brilliant and excellent portrayal of Nancy in the 1968 classic movie Oliver! It should be Dame Shani Wallis! Shani Wallis is the best and one and only Nancy ever! The 1968 classic movie is one of my favorite movies of all time! I was born in late fall of 1978. This movie musical number is fantastic! Thank you for posting and sharing this excellent movie musical number!
#KatherineHepburn won the best actress Oscar for The Lion in Winter that year. (1969) It underlines the difficulty of comparison between comedic/musical roles & serious drama. Oliver! did win best film & best director tho, the last musical to win best picture until #Chicago. (2002)
I think Charles Dickens would be pleased with Oliver Reeds performance as Bill Sikes I have heard from the cast that he was a big man which was intimidating and he could be frightening but never hurt them but he was a great motivator getting them moving during scenes! Shani who plays Nancy says she got the part because she could do a really good cockney accent and this was her favourite scene to film during the movie as it was fun! It would have been sad in those Victorian days if you were poor it was a hard life from food,clothes,jobs,places to live and how the rich treated you! I like in this scene how Nancy is singing and flapping her petticoat while Bill is just focusing on himself and bulls eye. I also like that the only words you hear from Bill are at the end of this him in his deep voice calling for bulls eye, Sir Carol Reed did a great job at directing this and no remake would ever beat his version it's timeless! This movie Will continue to be watched and loved by many generations to come!
Shani Wallis is the best Nancy Ever! I Love Shani Wallis!
2:47, I think that's the closest Bill has ever come to actually being nice.
He’s got more affection for his dog than he does for Nancy, notice how when she pours him his drink he stops her from pouring one for herself and when she brings him his food he doesn’t offer her any of it
Brilliant movie
“Who cares if straightlaces sneer at us in the street? Fine airs and fine graces don't have to sin to eat.” (Looks at the harlot and sailor.)
Argh I loved Oliver Reed! From the moment I first watched this film
Man it's so weird that when I was a kid, this seemed like such a happy, joyous song, but as an adult it kind of makes me sad... Don't know if that's because I'm listening to the lyrics properly, or because I understand the subtext of the scene better, but it's very strange.
That’s why it’s such a brilliant musical based on one of the greatest novels ever. Both work equally well for children and adults alike. Oliver Twist is a rip-roaring adventure filled with wonderful characters and an illuminating and often damning, though not unsympathetic, commentary on the society and mores of that time. Lionel Bart’s genius was not to lose anything of Dickens in his adaptation, possibly because he came from exactly this place and this kind of background 100 years later.
Though you sometimes do come by
The occasional black eye
You can always cover one
'Til he blacks the other one
But you don't dare cry!- Sing it louder girls!!!! LOL!
I love the thumbnail 😂
Great actors❤❤❤
"Oliver!" really is the best of the big roadshow-era movie musicals. Sorry, "Sound of Music."
Brilliant Movie and Performance! Shani Wallis is Brilliant as Nancy! Nancy is a tragic figure! Nancy is a good person! Bill Sikes is a cruel murderer and robber! Nancy and Bet are best friends! In the novel, Oliver Twist, after Bill Sikes brutally murders Nancy, Bet is hysterical and unconsolable. In the novel, Bill Sikes is haunted by his heinous brutal murder of Nancy! Bill Sikes in the novel and in the movie is brooding and evil! Nancy is the only person kind enough to love him! The 1968 Classic Musical Movie, Oliver! is superior to the classic novel!
It looks like Oliver Reed is still trying to forget the filming experience of The Trap. Who can blame him anyway?
He's been in some pretty bad movies. He's also been in some good ones, like The Three Musketeers.
Movie producers had chutzpah in the 1960's.
Leah Glaser
Robbie Hagberg do you want to go to the store tomorrow morning if that works for you to come over and get it tomorrow and get the car back to the store and then go to work and the other
No one ever mentions her sister Bet 😢
That was Bet in the shawl, who Nancy was dancing arm in arm with. Either her sister, or her best female friend.
Not her sister
@@L-3-0-1I had a huge crush on her when I first saw this musical with my family.