Enfield Interceptor VS Triumph Bonneville T100 owners talk Turkey.

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  • @NoorSamimi
    @NoorSamimi 5 місяців тому +7

    I had tons of hope to buy an interceptor until test rode one and immediately after my whole perception has changed and was like... No way! From quality of parts/materials to fit and finish to design of every part was underwhelming! Then with a heavy heart for extra cost test rode T100 and immediately was like... Yes please! Take my money! Everything was as it should be or better from quality, performance, design & etc

  • @romeldias
    @romeldias 5 місяців тому +16

    The interceptor is everyone's favourite because most folk in the UK can afford it! This is like comparing apples and avocados!

    • @mkgzt
      @mkgzt 5 місяців тому +2

      valve adjustments are easier and cheaper too :P

    • @fuglbird
      @fuglbird 2 місяці тому

      It is the favourite in the UK because Royal Enfield prices are extremely low there. RE cannot compete in the EU where proper Japanese motorcycles are cheaper and the RE showrooms are filled with 2021 models.

    • @romeldias
      @romeldias 2 місяці тому

      @@fuglbird Thats not all of it...the brand has an extensive history of being a top brand back in the day along with the likes of BSA and Norton...so it is an easier connect for folk in the UK!

  • @pjp6134
    @pjp6134 4 місяці тому +4

    While they argue between these two classics, I saw the light and sold my interceptor and bought the ultimate modern classic for this 60 year old who has great memories of the big fours of the 70's. Introducing my 2016 CB1100EX. Its a dream.

    • @raywite6665
      @raywite6665 4 місяці тому +1

      You are doing from a skate board to a rocket, the Honda is fabulous.

    • @fuglbird
      @fuglbird 2 місяці тому

      In the seventies Honda's big inline four was a 750. The GL1000 was a boxer. Congratulations anyway. It is a very nice bike. I am 66 and love touring. I opted for the fuel economy of a 2017 SV650. The price per km is the same as it was on my GT550 back in 1978.

  • @DexterDexter123
    @DexterDexter123 5 місяців тому +6

    11:56 i never took mine back to Triumph dealer - once was enough - didn’t care about me, charged me a lot and let me ride home before telling me (a week later by email!) that my breaks were down to minus 15% AND THEN i got the pads double checked by non-triumph and (as i thought) the pads have thousands of miles left on them. they also told me on the phone when i made the appointment that i couldn’t test ride a bike while i was there or as they put it ‘we don’t let people just go out on jollies’. i was very embarrassed. i have a 2 year old Bobber am a 50 year old man taking it to Triumph for service. i AM YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE! treated like an inconvenience. no one was around. didn’t try to talk to me about bikes in the shop i was looking at. didn’t point out the sale they were having on clothes. didn’t call me when bike was completed. so i won’t be buying a bike from them either.

    • @IrishBog
      @IrishBog 5 місяців тому

      Very very odd. The dealership here in Stockholm is great and super helpful. This morning in fact, I had the MOT for my bike and right away. The guy testing saw that my half light was broken which was a fail. He tested everything else and everything was OK but I called immediately the Triumph garage and they said just bring it by and they fitted me in and fixed it and I managed to get back to the MOT guy before lunch and he passed the bike.

    • @fuglbird
      @fuglbird 2 місяці тому

      It is worth it to find a good dealer before you buy a motorcycle. I have had some bad experiences too. I am now 66 and for the rest of my life I will have a Japanese motorcycle.

  • @maucort_col
    @maucort_col 7 годин тому +1

    Mi corazon esta con triumph, mi bolsillo con royal enfield

  • @motormikeb1047
    @motormikeb1047 5 місяців тому +3

    As for which bike is ... better looking .... it's the eye of the beholder.... I've have .. 650 Triumph, 650 BSA, Xs650's (3) and even the fabled Triton (750)..parked in my garage... all classic lines. Handsome machines .... I bought a 2020 Interceptor.... for what it wasn't, not so much for what it is. The value was a major factor .... it's a great " 650 " machine .... many manufactures built a 650 for the pass 80 years.... RE got it right. The $$$$'s I saved will fund my summer fun.. for years. 😎

  • @veritasvincit2745
    @veritasvincit2745 5 місяців тому +7

    The Triumph is lovely but i reckon the Enfield enticed more people back onto two wheels.
    Inexpensive new price on the Enfield means bikes only a couple of years old and with negligible miles for really sensible prices.
    That's a big draw no matter what else is available on the second hand market.

    • @southernmike3265
      @southernmike3265 4 місяці тому

      Personally I'd rather a reliable bullet proof bike for a little extra. Had both. My 2008 triumph bonny with a few very minor cheap mods makes the Trumpy twice the bike. Just my opinion

  • @IrishBog
    @IrishBog 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video. I managed to snag a 2018 t100 a couple of years ago after getting my license, but I always hankered for a Royal Enfield

  • @Turnbull62
    @Turnbull62 5 місяців тому +2

    Nice common man’s comparison. I’m old enough to to remember Bike magazine doing a similar comparison between the real Bonneville and the Yamaha XS650, back in the day. Lol

  • @shree397
    @shree397 5 місяців тому +4

    Most technical stats were wrong🤦🏻‍♂️ and i still I love it😂
    47.8hp,52nm, 205kg wet🤭
    Also, new interceptor 650 can be had with alloy wheels, adjustable levers, led front light and blacked out engine and pipes.

    • @theartisanrider472
      @theartisanrider472  5 місяців тому +1

      hi, yes it was a loose technical comparison , more a bit of fun really. glad you still enjoyed it, its fun to put a bit of humour into the video's. The Enfield was always on an uphill battle with the bonny, but i think it gives a good account of itself. its a bike im loving owning and running around on. theirs still nothing id change if for.

    • @shree397
      @shree397 5 місяців тому

      @@theartisanrider472 the newer version is practical, but it lacks the charm of old school version that you and I have, When it comes to power Royal enfield thought about Indian market first and 100kmph to 120 kmph is sort of the sweet spot on Indian highways (motorcycles are not allowed on expressway in India with speed limit of 140kmph and those are Access controlled motorways)

  • @kandrews1960
    @kandrews1960 4 місяці тому

    I had a 2020 Interceptor..LOVED it, but I felt cramped on it. Sat on a '22 T100 and was SOLD. Fits me perfectly and is comfortable😊

    • @frankysworld
      @frankysworld 4 місяці тому

      heh, had the exact same feeling - slapped a different handlebars and pegs on it and she is perfect now - don't even have the "wooden arse" anymore- even swapped back the original seat

  • @triumphthunderbird1
    @triumphthunderbird1 2 місяці тому

    Both great bikes. 8 year old bonnie compares favourably to a fairly new Interceptor so they are probably the same money. Bonnie is the standard of which all retros are measured. The T120 variant nails it.

  • @themoog3889
    @themoog3889 5 місяців тому +20

    Clunky gear change on the Interceptor? That does surprise me ! I've ridden a dozen different ones and they've all been buttery smooth .....including my own !

    • @Biggus63
      @Biggus63 5 місяців тому

      I've only ridden one, the one I own, and it's so smooth it's sometimes hard to know if it has shifted until you let out the clutch. Odd indeed.

    • @carltonwittland1300
      @carltonwittland1300 5 місяців тому

      Had a test ride last week on a brand new Interceptor with only a few miles on the clock. The gear changes were very smooth for such a new bike.

    • @theartisanrider472
      @theartisanrider472  5 місяців тому +2

      i think jamies experience is mainly with the bonny, so his experience with the Enfield would be coloured by a sample of one. i totally agree the interceptor gearbox is very good, as are all my Enfield boxes. but its fair to say the bonny really is slick. i was actually surprised at how more refined the liquid cooled bonny was than my air cooled ones. regardless of that, i love my interceptor. top bike.

    • @themoog3889
      @themoog3889 5 місяців тому +1

      @theartisanrider472 I rode both bikes and I'm happy with my choice , I thought the handling on the Interceptor was a little better probably down to the Harris design frame . The suspension got overwhelmed when you pushed it , had no confidence in the tyres , didn't like some of the grey powder coating , indicators were hideous but 2 main factors made me buy it ....1. It had more scope for me to personalise it ( in my eyes ) as the Triumph was undeniably more "finished" 2. I didn't want a 900cc bike ! It was never about money as I had the means to buy both , and I've spent a few quid on it and I'm still nowhere near the price of the T100 at the time , depreciation meant bugger all because it isn't going anywhere & I still get immense pleasure riding it and sitting in the garage looking at it with a cuppa !
      Must put it on the weighbridge at work sometime , I'm sure it'll be under 200kg ! 🤔

    • @-waz-773
      @-waz-773 5 місяців тому +2

      15000km on my Interceptor 650. Still super smooth!

  • @fiucik1
    @fiucik1 3 місяці тому

    This summer I bought my first big bike. Was thinking between T100, RE Interceptor 650, Kawa W800, or Moto Guzzi V7. Comparing just RE 650 with T100, even though Interceptor is more than 10kg lighter, if felt much more heavy when I sat on one. It's probably because of the ground clearance being higher on the Interceptor by over an inch. It makes the bike feel top heavy. That plus 2 inches shorter wheelbase, makes the bike look like a scrambler to me. Bonneville silhouette looks much more classy and pretty to me. Also, T100's engine is a peach, the RE doesn't even come close. 80Nm at 3250rpm, compared to Interceptor 52Nm or so, and at higher revs. It also consumes less fuel, which is just ridiculous, since it's 900cc against 650cc... Plus the fit and finish on the Bonneville. The clocks, the headlight, even the fuel cap, and it all scream quality. So I went for the used T100 instead of the new Interceptor. No regrets so far. And that engine sound is just amazing, even with the stock exhaust.

  • @carlosadaycurbelosantana4089
    @carlosadaycurbelosantana4089 Місяць тому

    I own a boneville t100 and I just sold the RE Interceptor to buy the triumph. Because?. Well, because the Triumph has a higher quality of finish, it has more engine, it has a range of colors that for me is more beautiful and the driving position is also more comfortable. That said, the RE is a very good option if you can't afford something more expensive.
    Greats from Gran Canaria, Canary Island, Spain.

    • @theartisanrider472
      @theartisanrider472  Місяць тому +1

      must admit the watercooled bonny was a stunning ride. im tempted to swap my aircooled one.

  • @Steveman61
    @Steveman61 Місяць тому +1

    The Inter is much more beautiful, the polished engine cases and the engine itself looks a lot better than on the Triumph. 3 Grand is a lot but I would not buy the Triumph if I had shit loads of money. The looks of the Inter is what influences my decision....

  • @samcarter4710
    @samcarter4710 5 місяців тому

    RE is so cheap and easy to customize, and way cheaper to buy, cheaper cost of maintenance (but more often), his line is so pure, power at low rev, buttery clutch ...great video

  • @ianbaines9705
    @ianbaines9705 5 місяців тому

    What a great video - lovely. Two blokes talking bikes, have empathy for each other’s perspective and can see the beauty in each bike. Fabulous - you’ve gained a subscriber - and yes I’ve owned a T100 for over 20 years now so I may be a little biased.

    • @theartisanrider472
      @theartisanrider472  5 місяців тому +1

      thanks for the lovely feedback, makes it all worthwhile. its all about enjoying the process of putting the episodes together, if your genuinely having fun, it shows. thanks again.

  • @TheSkeptic-lz2cc
    @TheSkeptic-lz2cc 5 місяців тому +2

    I do all of my own maintenance. The RE has dead simple screw and nut tappet adjusters. Also, the RE upswept exhausts are out of the way for chain slack adjust. Also, no coolant system to look after. 3 year warranty...

    • @EJK1965
      @EJK1965 2 місяці тому

      Valve clearances at 300 miles? Ridiculous.

    • @TheSkeptic-lz2cc
      @TheSkeptic-lz2cc 2 місяці тому

      @@EJK1965 Yup. RE has eliminated that requirement. First valve clearance check is now 10K kms (or 6K miles).

  • @Theoderich
    @Theoderich 5 місяців тому

    Actually a very useful comparison. Thanks.

  • @Barnie104
    @Barnie104 5 місяців тому

    Interesting comparison indeed I have the Interceptor and have always wondered the difference thanks

  • @BelgianDoomer
    @BelgianDoomer 4 місяці тому

    They are both fantastic bikes, i'm an enfield meteor 350 owner myself (for now, i'm getting the super meteor soon), the only thing i'm interested in is: how do hey roll in windy conditions? And to end the vitriolic comment section to quote jeremy chalamet in The King: "ON ME!!!"

    • @theartisanrider472
      @theartisanrider472  4 місяці тому

      they are indeed, im loving my interceptor above everything else at the moment.

  • @Bob-xc2us
    @Bob-xc2us 4 місяці тому

    Have either of you ridden the Kawasaki W800 standard?

    • @theartisanrider472
      @theartisanrider472  3 місяці тому

      its on the list, when i can find one. its a very underrated bike in my view.

  • @bferguson9277
    @bferguson9277 4 місяці тому

    I sure wish Enfield would up the ante a bit with a 750 or 850. Nothing against the 650, it's a good value if you don't want something larger. They've created many bike style variations around the 650 engine but nothing at the level of the larger Triumphs. Sure, you can get big bore kits, cams, change the mapping, etc. But for that layout, why not just buy a second-hand Triumph in the first place?

  • @RE650NZGraeme
    @RE650NZGraeme 4 місяці тому

    A little bit unfair in one way - the 30 - 50 test; the T100 has a 900cc engine vs a 650cc in the RE - a whole lot more torque and Cu.in to pull away with. Love the bikes and the comparison! Subscribed though :) BTW, I have an R1200RT as well as the Interceptor - haha! The Interceptor became a different beast with the Enfield Precision cans on and the DNA air filter as well. - Try them out!! Even better fuel economy on a longish steady journey! And, my gear changes are butter smooth, still and mine is 2019.

    • @theartisanrider472
      @theartisanrider472  4 місяці тому +1

      yep i was always on a loser with the acceleration, i was hoping jamie might miss a gear and id win by default.
      love the RT, i rode the Pan european in an earlier episode, these tourers are just over engineered pieces of art, fabulous.

    • @RE650NZGraeme
      @RE650NZGraeme 4 місяці тому

      @@theartisanrider472 WRT the gear change on the Interceptor to make it buttery smooth, only use 1/2"pull on the lever and it is a very slick change!

  • @bonnie2020
    @bonnie2020 5 місяців тому +5

    Compared to the T100, the RE is a mass product that is therefore offered at a favorable price. Exclusivity simply has its price. The rider has the choice.

  • @anthonyprice5596
    @anthonyprice5596 5 місяців тому

    I've had a T100 and hope at some point to get an interceptor or maybe theres a new 650 classic to come? .
    Triumph was great however servicing was a pain having to get shims( as I do all my own work) was expensive. Hence the simplicity of the Enfield, and lets be serious Triumph are mass produced in Thailand so theres no real Britishness left Royal Enfield really have a better Heritage they've been making bikes for over 100 years consistently you can't say that about Triumph!!

    • @southernmike3265
      @southernmike3265 4 місяці тому

      As a rider of 50 years and owned many bikes. My 2008 865cc bonny classic is s bike that will stay with me to the end. With very few cheap easy mods the Trumpy can turn into a midrange power beast! Twice the bike in my opinion

  • @Nick_B1978
    @Nick_B1978 4 місяці тому

    Test rode a T120 and it was heavy and not as agile in comparison to my Interceptor and gear changes were much better on the Interceptor than the Bonneville.

  • @geoffbroderick403
    @geoffbroderick403 5 місяців тому +1

    be nice to compare same year bikes not one 8 years old as newer t100 model updated ,brakes,more nm,front suspension, ht engine,lighter clutch

    • @theartisanrider472
      @theartisanrider472  5 місяців тому

      yep, totally fair point. i was slightly limited due to only having Jamie's bike available, but it did give an owners perspective, which meant we could sort of say what we liked without upsetting a dealer. having said that though, i was surprised at how much more refined this water-cooled bonny is than my air-cooled one. i have access to a new t120 so might compare those at some point.

    • @kilburncounty
      @kilburncounty 5 місяців тому

      Good point,but I imagine a few folks are considering a new interceptor vs a used T100, so it’s a pretty useful comparison

  • @Dudeiculas
    @Dudeiculas 5 місяців тому +2

    Interceptor has alloy rims with stainless steel spokes miles better then the press mild steel cromed rims and mild steel spokes of the bonnie

  • @raywite6665
    @raywite6665 4 місяці тому

    they are completely different is every way but being retros. The Triumph is best as a Triumph, the RE as the RE. one chooses what they like.

  • @suzukisv6507
    @suzukisv6507 5 місяців тому

    and what about reliability?

  • @warrenhancock5742
    @warrenhancock5742 4 місяці тому

    My Inty isn't clunky in the gears.

  • @dirkdiggler5164
    @dirkdiggler5164 5 місяців тому +1

    Its good he got the T100 with some color and aluminum cases. ps , you're both batsht mad if you think the Interceptor is better looking

  • @tedcity5861
    @tedcity5861 4 місяці тому

    Other than styling, i dont think these are comparable. Dont know why these videos still come up.

  • @NickKidner
    @NickKidner 5 місяців тому

    Interesting Comparison between 2 very tempting bikes, however!
    The fairground music belongs in the background, don't just tell me how great the pipes sound lets hear them, as important a part of the experience as looks etc.
    Otherwise great video, thanks Nick.

  • @edwardwilliammorris1340
    @edwardwilliammorris1340 4 місяці тому

    There's nothing wrong with the Enfield gear change. ps for either bike learn to do you own oil and filter change because you'll save more than you think and honestly having to try and make claims on warranty before, its fair to say you can't trust any shop to honour it 😎

    • @theartisanrider472
      @theartisanrider472  4 місяці тому

      totally agree, a bike you can home service is a must in my book now.

  • @GiancarloBenzina
    @GiancarloBenzina 5 місяців тому +1

    LOL, boy is being robbed over and over… the triumph is better in many details, and worth the 3K extra. To me the best and most real bike is the Interceptor. Triumph makes oversized show-pieces. I’d buy the W800, every time. But for now, I am thinking of caferacer styling a new BSA instead.

  • @421Rider
    @421Rider 5 місяців тому +4

    It's really unfair to compare these two bikes.

  • @fuglbird
    @fuglbird 2 місяці тому

    It is sad that you use American music in a video about English motorcycles. English music in the sixties was amazing, but the motorcycles were never really any good. Del Shannon and Max Crooks Runaway is a very, very good song; but you might as well have played Little Honda with the Beach Boys.

  • @olavius771
    @olavius771 2 місяці тому

    The gigantic exhausts of the Interceptor are horrible! 😳

    • @theartisanrider472
      @theartisanrider472  2 місяці тому

      oddly i like the twin pipes on these, they do sound good, but do add alot to the weight.

  • @frankysworld
    @frankysworld 4 місяці тому

    comparing a 650 with a 900 and concluding the 900 has more torque - how novel 😆

    • @theartisanrider472
      @theartisanrider472  4 місяці тому +1

      to be honest i was a bit of fun with odd serious points. but i love both bikes for what they bring to the motorbike world. i have both and enjoy them for totally different reasons.

    • @frankysworld
      @frankysworld 4 місяці тому

      @@theartisanrider472 properly so! Don't take me too seriously, not even my wife does that😁 I think there may be many reasons why one would prefer the one over the other, but all that jabbering back and forth isn't getting any miles under anyone's wheels😄 Enjoy what you got and if you got both, even better!

  • @graantmnz
    @graantmnz 5 місяців тому +2

    you can not compare a 965 triumph with a 650 and compare such as weight, HP and roll on for "wins" as they are apples to pears....and the trmpy doesn't need 6 gears as they have much more torque...

  • @benwathen7115
    @benwathen7115 4 місяці тому

    TIE Interceptor!

  • @markjefferson9799
    @markjefferson9799 2 місяці тому

    Its A no brainer trumpy has more power torgue quality.

  • @customerservicechampion
    @customerservicechampion 4 місяці тому

    the music was cool!

  • @EJK1965
    @EJK1965 2 місяці тому

    Want a clumsy attempt at engineering? Buy the RE, I did, new last October (2023) for £5k. Wouldn't pay a penny more. Any manufacturer that has a valve clearances check at 300 miles is a joke. They also weigh far to much and ate fabricated by children.

  • @VillyVassel-eo3qo
    @VillyVassel-eo3qo 5 місяців тому +1

    I like triumphs but royal Enfield has got a winner with the interceptor far cheaper with the option of customisation, it a better value bike allround,,👍

    • @VillyVassel-eo3qo
      @VillyVassel-eo3qo 5 місяців тому

      Mine is nearly 5 years old and it has been great it could do with an oil change at the moment,, it's down less than 3000, miles,

    • @mrofnocnon
      @mrofnocnon 5 місяців тому

      A winner in terms of price certainly.