Someone Copied my Micro Turbine Design

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  • @vALTOrD
    @vALTOrD 7 років тому +2040

    Make a copy of the copy and make it better! 5 fins and less clearance !

    • @justinwood2
      @justinwood2 7 років тому +124

      Lets start an engineering contest where the highest RPM wins

    • @PietrzelaAdrian
      @PietrzelaAdrian 7 років тому +63

      And you will end up with Tesla Turbine xD

    • @brothyr
      @brothyr 7 років тому +1

      justin wood we'd have to figure out what motor he's using in order to reproduce the motor's load on the turbine.

    • @potatoraider7320
      @potatoraider7320 7 років тому +14

      and then, a technological race has begun!

    • @vALTOrD
      @vALTOrD 7 років тому +5

      Johan Fouche just as a personal challenge

  • @mashedpotatoes6362
    @mashedpotatoes6362 6 років тому +494

    "who are you?"
    "i'm you but better"

    • @pandatech1688
      @pandatech1688 6 років тому +12

      Dame tu cosita:Who are you?
      Howard the alien:I'm you but better

    • @Umayyadazi
      @Umayyadazi 6 років тому +2

      randompandahasfun Lmao 🤣

    • @muhd195ify
      @muhd195ify 6 років тому +1

      mashed potatoes "I am you but can be mass production."

    • @andresouza2314
      @andresouza2314 6 років тому

      Far, far better!

    • @samj45345
      @samj45345 6 років тому

      *Butt

  • @ajrider12
    @ajrider12 7 років тому +793

    The amount of negative comments on this video is bizarre. Apparently people like to comment before watching the video, it takes him just over 45 seconds to say that he liked the design and he even included the smiley emote in his comment. Its obvious that he liked the improvement and seemed to be shocked to see something on the market that resembled a passed project of his.

    • @sirmounted8499
      @sirmounted8499 7 років тому +45

      This is exactly what I though when watching the video, then I come to the comment section and I don't get what people are on about.. people are fucking stupid cunts.

    • @JViello
      @JViello 7 років тому +4

      Rowdy Audi : So here I am thinking the same thing and you said it. Thanks for saving me the trouble.
      I used to go through the same thing with online forums and products I used to make. Someone would post "This thing is garbage, I can't fit the widget on the fidget! It's backwards!" To which we or another happy customer would post: "Instructions, page 2, paragraph one, third sentence. 'First step, reverse widget before fitting it on the fidget.'" LOL

    • @Rowow
      @Rowow 7 років тому +29

      The title clearly states that someone copied his design... It is not his design. Its a very basic turbine system that is used everywhere especially in dentist drills. So either he is claiming ownership on a thing he never invented, or he is click baiting. That is the problem.

    • @ajrider12
      @ajrider12 7 років тому

      I think that the amount of negativity in the comment section is unnecessary but then again this is UA-cam. Also, I hoped that those coming down here to comment would see my post and refrain from saying something dumb. I live in the United States but was raised in Austria.

    • @thresholdseven8942
      @thresholdseven8942 7 років тому +4

      You have been issued a citation by the grammar police for using passed instead of past.

  • @MrBigCookieCrumble
    @MrBigCookieCrumble 7 років тому +157

    Why is this comment section so full of butthurt angry people? Did you even watch the video?! He said he THINKS someone copied his design, there is NOTHING there that implies he's angry about it. He even said he *LIKES* the "copy" for crying out loud!

    • @paulmartin2499
      @paulmartin2499 6 років тому +2

      It's cyclic-masturbation. aka: one big circle-jerk...
      Now, I'm not claiming I invented the circle-jerk, I simply recognized the pattern.
      Will someone please order some cases of paper towels?...
      I completely believe OP, however.
      Isn't there something positive to be said about imitation?...
      -paul

    • @alejandrodelabarra2838
      @alejandrodelabarra2838 5 років тому +1

      Because they did never do anything.

  • @andrewsteigerwald2749
    @andrewsteigerwald2749 7 років тому +32

    My favorite part is when he says "someone make a copy. And I like it"

  • @KXSWORKS
    @KXSWORKS 7 років тому +1644

    they had copied your design because you posted a TUTORIAL HOW TO MAKE ONE!

    • @notpulverman9660
      @notpulverman9660 7 років тому +107

      9snaker I think he's implying he just made a miniature model of an existing design.
      Making it smaller doesn't make it his design.

    • @FlyingJetpack1
      @FlyingJetpack1 7 років тому +31

      it doesn't seem like he is complaining you know?

    • @zenzeki751
      @zenzeki751 7 років тому +9

      kyle velasquez but not how to make tons and sell them....

    • @nahanokkonahan6831
      @nahanokkonahan6831 7 років тому +7

      kyle velasquez and you're mad because?

    • @bonha4299
      @bonha4299 7 років тому +11

      kyle velasquez i mean it's a tutorial at how to make it then that person upgraded it a bit ok bro not a copy

  • @singsingmei
    @singsingmei 7 років тому +4

    i love how you didn't go the negative route and actually liked that someone copied and improved upon it. way to go man. if only there were more people like you, science and tech would progress a lot faster.

  • @gmartinez2484
    @gmartinez2484 6 років тому +42

    “Can I copy your homework”
    “Yeah just change it so it doesn’t look the same”

  • @profglac
    @profglac 7 років тому +236

    If someone copies your designs, be happy, because you inspired these people to produce something ... Many people would love to be doing these things, but they do not. Congratulations on your channel, your projects and your shared knowledge .. Great hug!

    • @dbranham123
      @dbranham123 6 років тому +25

      Inspired? Lol... It’s not like they watched a video that inspired them to help the homeless. They watched a video and seen dollar signs, they were “inspired” to become rich off of someone else’s work.
      I dare you to write a book, a movie script, design a invention; something that took you years to complete and you were passionate about it. Then allow some stranger to take it from you, make VERY simple improvements to it and then sell it and make millions... Your honestly going to tell me you wouldn’t be upset???
      What we seen in this video wasn’t inspiration, it was greed. Inspiration would be watching one of these videos and designing something on your own.

    • @noobsaibot7073
      @noobsaibot7073 6 років тому

      PuRple_Chezz Boi true

    • @LvdensArcturus
      @LvdensArcturus 6 років тому +1

      Tinha que ser brasileiro pra defender alguém roubar a patente do outro mesmo, deve ser nordestino e eleitor de Lula.

    • @shinydoritos0159
      @shinydoritos0159 6 років тому +1

      Mr.L u d e n s O quê que está a fazer um *br* aqui ? 😂 👌

    • @muhd195ify
      @muhd195ify 6 років тому

      Gustavo Carvalho Inspiration when someone willing to help these kind of inventors by proposing to buy these inventors creations for it copyright or something if it was proved very useful so those inventors can focus for their own work. It would become one of the motivations for inventors instead of contributing for the society. This is not inspiration,this is like stealing someone else hardwork.

  • @Cryxt
    @Cryxt 6 років тому +16

    0:47
    Atleast watch and get some context first...

  • @tommihommi1
    @tommihommi1 7 років тому +210

    Greatest honor an engineer can receive: being copied :D

    • @PatrickBaptist
      @PatrickBaptist 7 років тому

      Yup

    • @dcw56
      @dcw56 7 років тому +9

      Bull crap. Getting paid would be better.
      In this case, though, the engineering for the item is over a century old, and common knowledge.

    • @davedennis6042
      @davedennis6042 7 років тому

      That's what I was going to say.

    • @kadmow
      @kadmow 7 років тому

      +Grundel: but he was a sellout, and sold the rights to Westinghouse (because he hated Edison) just for fun:)

    • @kadmow
      @kadmow 7 років тому +1

      Grundel: that too. Lets thank Nikola and George for our AC power supply, or should we thank Faraday, lots of incremental steps. (also industrial espionage and stealing secrets)
      Lots of dead ends too (Tesla included.) cheers.

  • @thepassion-archives6414
    @thepassion-archives6414 7 років тому +11

    I appreciate your humility in sharing a similar product which performs better than yours! Do you plan on improving yours?

  • @angeldg7353
    @angeldg7353 7 років тому +848

    Would both fit in my Honda

    • @AndyTrampke
      @AndyTrampke 7 років тому +45

      Angel Derbessy
      Yes and one of these hooked up to a compressor would be far more powerful than the engine in it already.

    • @Rx7man
      @Rx7man 7 років тому +5

      Umm.. how big a compressor do you plan on taking with you?

    • @anonymous4703
      @anonymous4703 7 років тому +3

      Rx7man a big one

    • @totallytoastly8662
      @totallytoastly8662 7 років тому +1

      How big would the compressor need to be to get 100mph?

    • @schmenkspeedtyping218
      @schmenkspeedtyping218 7 років тому

      Kkigcixik9xwoixk. dj. dkddmcdjfjkd

  • @aorusxtremem1_sam183
    @aorusxtremem1_sam183 6 років тому +2

    The best part of engineering is to be copied and see what others come up with which is really fascinating.
    not only you will know the flaws of the designs but you will also improve and develop it much more which in a way is like an endless competition.
    Cheers out to both of you guys you and the copy respectively.

  • @seanmccrary8300
    @seanmccrary8300 5 років тому +21

    Imitation is the ultimate form of flattery. 😊😊

  • @bootsmanaa
    @bootsmanaa 7 років тому +483

    if you would have patented the design would you not get a cut form banggood then?

    • @shayneoneill1506
      @shayneoneill1506 7 років тому +14

      While theres some new ideas they probably wouldnt pass the legal bar of novelty. Its more a trade secret issue, and being subject of a youtube vid its not really a trade secret. Doesnt make it right, but its probably perfectly legal

    • @mossab7136
      @mossab7136 7 років тому

      Behindspace90 there are international organizations that provide patents for almost all countries but it can be a little expensive I think it's around 2.5 grand to apply for one of them

    • @thunderbolt997
      @thunderbolt997 7 років тому +7

      patenting is not cheap

    • @ooltimu
      @ooltimu 7 років тому +10

      Yeah, sure! The Chinese will happily pay you the patent claim.

    • @powertothebauer296
      @powertothebauer296 7 років тому +15

      Just in case , i don't see a copy here, i only see the principle how it works, the Housing, bearings the Rotor even the in - and outlet is in different angle, there is no Copy at all.

  • @st8pl8guy
    @st8pl8guy 7 років тому +559

    ... It is not about "He who invents". It is about "He who patents it first."

    • @totallytoastly8662
      @totallytoastly8662 7 років тому +73

      or "He who has the most lawyers"

    • @focus3974
      @focus3974 7 років тому +59

      or "He who has more money"

    • @User-og1te
      @User-og1te 7 років тому +35

      or '' He who owns a billion dollar company''

    • @KnightRider09
      @KnightRider09 7 років тому +21

      Ahh famous quote by Thomas Edison eyy? xD

    • @Mineav
      @Mineav 7 років тому +20

      Or he who has a team of incredibly high-priced lawyers. Then the world is your oyster.

  • @kbent88
    @kbent88 7 років тому +630

    He linked to the copy in the description...It may be a copy, but he's most likely making money off of it... He also gives a coupon code... #AD

    • @Falcodrin
      @Falcodrin 7 років тому +11

      kbent88 most of us would love a chance to have some of the things he makes

    • @Yonatan24
      @Yonatan24 7 років тому +19

      I'm not even sure this type of affiliation is even legal...

    • @Gameboygenius
      @Gameboygenius 7 років тому +35

      When life gave JohnnyQ90 lemons, JohnnyQ90 made lemonade. JohnnyQ90 is smart. Be like JohnnyQ90.

    • @currenlydying
      @currenlydying 7 років тому +26

      KevSpace C Doing a video in assocation/sponsored with a company without saying it clearly is illegal in certain country. Idk about the US, I know that in the UK and France it's illegal,

    • @spacemichael1103
      @spacemichael1103 7 років тому +10

      The code is just a normal coupon discount. I've used that exact code many times before and it has nothing to do with this guy. I'm not sure about the link, may be affiliate but there's nothing wrong with that. If it's his original design, at the very least he should make a few dollars of off the copy.

  • @cryptoneo
    @cryptoneo 7 років тому +1

    If I ever get a metal milling machine I might have to make a copy for myself! Thank you for really showing the detail and providing measurements! I could have fudged it all but as an engineer I like to have a reference

  • @trevorcrane1664
    @trevorcrane1664 7 років тому

    I love the fact you didn't get mad, you went all scientific and dissected it and compared it to your own. And then you concluded it was an improvement on yours. Well done. I don't understand the coments saying you're mad and knocking. By the way, that sound at the end where you connected them in series....how good was that!

  • @collinbrown1338
    @collinbrown1338 7 років тому +87

    Didn't you copy the turbo and just made it micro?

    • @dbranham123
      @dbranham123 7 років тому +6

      You make a strong point, but why do you feel the need to keep pasting the same comment?

    • @Immortal_Mentor
      @Immortal_Mentor 7 років тому +3

      You copy paste alot..

    • @nuclear9977
      @nuclear9977 7 років тому

      lol cole

    • @NakiriX1
      @NakiriX1 7 років тому

      Collin Brown
      Not really because the turbo has one hose going into the turbo (airhose) and no second bearing for the rotor so it has a huge hole to let the air come out

    • @LuisXGP
      @LuisXGP 7 років тому

      Even though it looks similar, it's not. If you ever cooked in your life, you surely can know the difference between making a cup of rice at once and making 3kg of rice at once. Although the principle it's the same., it's simply not the same procedure,.

  • @salamibad2262
    @salamibad2262 7 років тому +519

    Its hard to say its a copy since you have used basic specs from the 1800s, besides that enough difference between the two exits to claim completely different designs despite any similarities between the two. Claim coke is the copy of pepsi when other colas we're already in the market.

    • @salamibad2262
      @salamibad2262 7 років тому +9

      steve gale congrats you have helped prove the point.

    • @mhgscrubadub9917
      @mhgscrubadub9917 7 років тому +2

      The concept has been around forever. however you cant deny that the one made after took inspiration from the first.

    • @salamibad2262
      @salamibad2262 7 років тому +17

      MHG Scrubadub I absolutely can. The inspiration came from the true original. Which had only 2 impeller fins. Was a 90° elbow that took in water to pump uphill not air. The fact that these take air is not uncommon either, for that matter you could say the real inspiration for this exact thing came from lungs.

    • @eggliketread
      @eggliketread 7 років тому

      Thanks for KeepinItReal -- CREEPY, Kris.

    • @TheUntrainedNinja
      @TheUntrainedNinja 7 років тому +3

      You got the coke thing the other way around lol

  • @SirYvor
    @SirYvor 7 років тому +553

    Thats just how every air Turbine is desingned, even 20 years ago , but okay you are the inventor

    • @AndyTrampke
      @AndyTrampke 7 років тому +45

      Yannic06
      20 years ago? Over 100 years ago

    • @dualtronix4438
      @dualtronix4438 7 років тому +37

      100 years ago? Over 200 years ago

    • @sadladd
      @sadladd 7 років тому +68

      1000 years ago? Over 9000 years ago.

    • @TokaixEX1
      @TokaixEX1 7 років тому +13

      Aye, Someone give this man the Noble prize and every Honorable tittle for his great invention adn contribution to humanity!!!!!!...
      ..
      ..
      ..
      Wait for it
      ..
      ..
      Sarcasm ends here

    • @Todro101
      @Todro101 7 років тому +4

      CyberLotus *and

  • @djacob7
    @djacob7 7 років тому

    You should be proud that someone liked your design so much that they built one like it. Imitation is a form of flattery.

  • @thekinglov265
    @thekinglov265 6 років тому +1

    this is why its good to share ideas because someone out there will always make improvements you overlooked

  • @multimargejta123
    @multimargejta123 7 років тому +6

    Can you connect two of those via axis and make a mini turbocharger? ..like one turbine will be hot side, and the other one will be cold side, and put it on RC engine, would that be possible?

    • @ninja101ful
      @ninja101ful 7 років тому

      Why not?

    • @bigredc222
      @bigredc222 7 років тому

      They do make turbo's for RC motors, but the cars are mostly electric now.

    • @widgget
      @widgget 7 років тому

      It is possible, but the expansion pipe (the exhaust) needs to be tuned correctly. Basically you need to have more back pressure when the ports are open because you are forcing air in now. most 2 stroke nitro engines for RC have the intake and exhaust ports open at the same time. If you are pushing air into the intake you need more pressure on the exhaust to hold it in. the tuned pipe works by reflecting some of the gas pulse from each exhaust cycle back into the cylinder.

  • @SasafrasYT
    @SasafrasYT 7 років тому +16

    2:55 you've been bamboozled

  • @MichelPASTOR
    @MichelPASTOR 7 років тому +11

    It looks well made even if I prefer the look of yours with the pressed bearings plates. I guess they could be more secured in place with the screws. At least it is a nice copy.

    • @notpulverman9660
      @notpulverman9660 7 років тому

      Michel PASTOR the copy is inferior build.
      If you look closely, you see the screws coming loose whenever the turbine is spinning.
      Probably the vibration??

    • @MichelPASTOR
      @MichelPASTOR 7 років тому +2

      They are not coming loose they are just spinning together with the nuts. The nuts can't come loose because they are Nylock nuts. It's normal to have some vibration with such high speeds also it's a 20 dollars part after all. They would probably not be moving if the nuts were to be tightened more.

  • @benammiswift
    @benammiswift 6 років тому

    I'm thinking of using these for a miniature Diesel Hydraulic locomotive, do you think these will run slower but with a higher torque on water?

  • @BaronVonSparklefarts
    @BaronVonSparklefarts 6 років тому +1

    Well, at first glance, it would appear that the designs have similarities but the one you describe as a copy does have additional improvements to the design. For instance, the housing is larger and the turbine is larger. The modifications to the new design also seem to increase performance of the turbine by about 13,000 RPM at 2 bar while not under load. The improvement to performance under load is significantly more impressive with an increase of 13,800 RPM (6,200 - 20,000) at 2 bar. Additionally, the rotor designs are similar but not exact as they seem to have optimized the design of the rotor blade to provide better RPM while under load.
    I love your channel and the work you do is amazing, there is no doubt about that. I must admit that sitting here late at night watching your channel, I often see what you have built and begin thinking of ways to utilize, adapt, or improve upon your creations. If you do not already, please go through the process of patenting your designs. There are situations when an invention can receive adequate patent protection with a utility patent and a design patent. If your invention has a unique structure/function (utility) coupled with unique ornamental features (design), then you should consider filing both a utility patent application and a design patent application. This can be a difficult situation and it is recommended that you speak with a patent attorney prior to choosing this path. Both design and utility patent applications will provide you with “patent pending“ while they are pending at the Patent Office.
    For the most part, the patents granted by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office are for *improvements to existing products* or for innovations *similar to products already patented* and patents can also be granted for the successful miniaturization of an existing technology.
    Here is a great article that explains a lot about how the patent process works: www.ipwatchdog.com/2014/05/03/the-successful-inventor-patenting-improvements/id=49396/
    As an aside, it speaks volumes about your character that you are cool with the new turbine. Keep up the good work.

  • @zfrenks4383
    @zfrenks4383 7 років тому +621

    like you're the first one on earth who thought of this design...

    • @TeodorKubena
      @TeodorKubena 7 років тому +24

      CreepyblackZ Many people thought about Facebook before Facebook, but they didnt create it. So if he was first who created it. He has the right for it.

    • @iforce2d
      @iforce2d 7 років тому +44

      No he doesn't, just like Facebook doesn't have the 'right' to be the only company running a social networking site :)

    • @SKANK_HUNT49
      @SKANK_HUNT49 7 років тому +2

      I am the person who truly first invented it. I have yet to find a valuable use for my device though. I'm not really sure what it can do.

    • @TeodorKubena
      @TeodorKubena 7 років тому

      Im not talking about other social medias, im talking about Facebook, there is only one Facebook.

    • @TeodorKubena
      @TeodorKubena 7 років тому +1

      Facebook has the right to be the only Facebook :)

  • @WaschyNumber1
    @WaschyNumber1 7 років тому +54

    Hello, what is the purpose of this turbine?

    • @FingerThatO
      @FingerThatO 7 років тому +5

      It is just a motor powered by compressed air instead of electricity. What is it's use? For that motor size, I dont know. I know there are power drills that are air powered but the motors are bigger.

    • @MuitoDaora
      @MuitoDaora 7 років тому +7

      Misael Cifuentes Dentist drills

    • @rbn_hmrs541
      @rbn_hmrs541 7 років тому +11

      its for small high rpm tools

    • @bjarnivalur6330
      @bjarnivalur6330 7 років тому +19

      To go fast

    • @AttilaAsztalos
      @AttilaAsztalos 7 років тому +3

      I'm sure you could stick a standard V-tip engraving stylus on it and mount the thing on the business end of a hobby CNC router, isolation-miling PCBs - there RPM is directly related to how fast you can move, and this thing would tear through the few microns of copper like mad...

  • @theman6760
    @theman6760 7 років тому +644

    No one copied you because it wasn't your design in the first place.

    • @AB-pr4uc
      @AB-pr4uc 7 років тому +38

      Tell that to all of these viewers. Sheep will be sheep, I suppose.

    • @charliemopps4926
      @charliemopps4926 7 років тому +26

      Not only that, but it's not even a copy. A couple of the measurements are similar, but the majority are very different.

    • @WeirdHieroglyphicSymbol
      @WeirdHieroglyphicSymbol 7 років тому +5

      i think i found a comment full of retards, lol.

    • @acywei
      @acywei 7 років тому +31

      +HoCoRydaaH don't talk about yourself like that, it's okay....we accept you as the sheep you are.

    • @Vincentlpp08
      @Vincentlpp08 7 років тому +4

      Sils Wei ROASTED

  • @joshgreaves9934
    @joshgreaves9934 6 років тому +3

    When you put the two together I thought it was gonna take off in your hand, sounded awesome. 👍🏿👍🏿

  • @rossmennie4903
    @rossmennie4903 4 роки тому +1

    As long as you’re OK with it, then I guess it’s the ultimate form of flattery!

  • @will2-b150
    @will2-b150 7 років тому +105

    Copied? Looks more like schooled you.

    • @RizLazey
      @RizLazey 7 років тому +1

      Scroll Out every copy is more better than the original ones, they only took the idea, so dont be a sheep

    • @AndyTrampke
      @AndyTrampke 7 років тому +2

      xXx_MlgTr1kSh00ter _Xx
      You are slow.

    • @guilhermerafaelzimermann4196
      @guilhermerafaelzimermann4196 7 років тому +2

      You shouldn't say every copy is better than the original ones, go look at Video Brinquedo's movies, nobody in their right mind would seriously think their movies are better than the original movies, same can be said for copies of games, look at all the stupid minecraft clones, and there are many other examples of copies of something being worse than the original design, so your statement is simply factually incorrect

    • @MrNoAvatar
      @MrNoAvatar 7 років тому

      Does Apple count? Their iPhones a now just copy paste designs with just slight differences. The iP 7 was a copy paste of the iP 6 but without a headphone jack, and now the new iP 8 is just an iP 7 with (supposedly) better display, camera, performance, blah blah blah.

    • @totallytoastly8662
      @totallytoastly8662 7 років тому

      Mr. NoAvatar But that new Iphone X is gonna have some pretty cool features

  • @DaddyBear3000
    @DaddyBear3000 7 років тому +6

    Just a thought, did you have your impeller in the wrong way around as well?

    • @tiemenjansma4685
      @tiemenjansma4685 5 років тому

      Karl Harris it’s a turbine, not an impeller

  • @Liam-ov8wy
    @Liam-ov8wy 7 років тому +458

    the guy who copied your made a video saying you copied him

    • @schuylercassidy3625
      @schuylercassidy3625 6 років тому +88

      If no link then it’s fake

    • @Waraitsune
      @Waraitsune 6 років тому +45

      No link no trust xd

    • @nreaction
      @nreaction 6 років тому +6

      Lol its like jeff bezos of amazon and blue origin and elon musk of tesla and spacex. Elon musk is pioneer but jeff bezos took all the credit with his blue origin rocket

    • @elliethegachatuber1335
      @elliethegachatuber1335 6 років тому

      Oh god 😂

    • @notyourchannel6294
      @notyourchannel6294 6 років тому

      liamclash9 * who?

  • @tax52manav22
    @tax52manav22 6 років тому +2

    which device did you used to put air in that turbine?

  • @intervalkid
    @intervalkid 6 років тому +1

    They improved the design a little. Where did you get the copy? How much did it cost?

  • @GazCle
    @GazCle 7 років тому +94

    Imitation best form of flattery ;O)

    • @dcw56
      @dcw56 7 років тому +4

      Oh yes. Someone else making money off your work is just wonderful.

    • @tommyakers217
      @tommyakers217 7 років тому +6

      dcw56 money is not the most important part of life. Just saying.

    • @liquidminds
      @liquidminds 7 років тому +4

      dcw56 Idea was 2013. No product has been released until now. No rights have been secured. No patents applied for.
      If you didn't work with it for 4 years and someone else picks it up, you can't complain about it...
      That being said, if you take an idea from someone else, it's just common courtesy to give credit. But just because someone has a similar idea, does not necessarily mean that he copied it. There have been multiple example of people from different parts of the world coming up with the same idea.

    • @Silent-sm3lq
      @Silent-sm3lq 7 років тому

      Tommy Akers Yes it is. Money makes the world go around.

    • @macey75
      @macey75 7 років тому

      I'm pretty sure the SUN is responsible for that........lololol

  • @AdventuresinFabrication
    @AdventuresinFabrication 7 років тому +25

    While you made a great turbine and I enjoyed your video building it, let's be honest, the basic design has been around for a very long time. So I'm not sure you can take credit for it being a copy.

    • @DoNotPushHere
      @DoNotPushHere 7 років тому

      Adventures in Fabrication I have that particular turbine since at least 2 years, and it was no novelty when I purchased it...

    • @DoNotPushHere
      @DoNotPushHere 7 років тому

      Behindspace90 I'd even say that he hasn't considered the angle between intake and exhaust pipes. My guess is that his design is less fuel consuming, even if clearances were the same. But, as air travels more time inside, I guess it can go pass an optimal point where air speed inside the turbine starts to decrease due to drag. And all Peltons rely on air speed, not pressure. Thus, he should repeat the tests measuring also volume of air consumed over time, and divide speed per consume. My guess is that he will win at that point.

    • @Sha.ll0w
      @Sha.ll0w 7 років тому

      This particular design hasn't been around anywhere to be seen.

    • @DoNotPushHere
      @DoNotPushHere 7 років тому

      shalol I can't assure that, since mine is only from 2015 but all I know is that mine is (a copy?) from a brand called Microcosm. The original microcosm turbine costs double of the price you can find at dx or banggood but has the same name on it and performs well. AFAIK Microcosm ia not one of those brands that would make copies...it just sells reliable machines. I own another steam enginw from Microcosm that resembles a Pachasa engine, but again...Pachasa is just a well designed model, such as all V-engines have a similar angle between pistons

    • @AdventuresinFabrication
      @AdventuresinFabrication 7 років тому +1

      Turbines have been around for over 1000 years in one form or another. The only thing that makes his unique is he designed and built it at home. To build a high speed turbine at home that doesn't vibrate into million pieces is very impressive and requires a high degree of skill. But again, turbines are all around us in one form or another.

  • @driftliketokyo34ftw35
    @driftliketokyo34ftw35 4 роки тому +3

    3:32 sounds like a twin prop starter.

  • @garychap8384
    @garychap8384 6 років тому

    Hi Johnny,
    I'm looking to get into some simple fabrication - just as a hobby, to see how far I can get. Would you say the a 250w DRAPER LATHE-300 seems like a good starting point? I'm looking for something that will carry me through the basics to hopefully the type of small motor work you're doing here ... mostly aluminium and brass.
    I ask because I can get the Draper really cheap here.
    *The Draper LATHE-300 Specs :*
    Mains supply: 250w @ 240v Single Phase
    Turning capacity: diameter: 180mm, between centres: 200/300mm
    Chuck capacity: 80mm
    Spindle speeds: Low: 100-1100r/min, High: 100-2500r/min (variable)
    Cross slide travel: 65mm
    Spindle bore: 20mm
    Overall length: 830mm
    Weight: 42kg
    Motor: 0.33 HP
    Any good, or would I need something heavier? I'm on 240v (UK domestic) and need to avoid 3-phase.
    Any pointers would be useful if you have time to respond.
    Thanks

    • @johnnyq90
      @johnnyq90  6 років тому

      Hi Gary,
      Although it seems like a nice little lathe (rigid) what concerns me most is that it's somehow underpowered. My lathe has a 600w motor and it's pretty much the same size as this one. It cuts aluminium and brass like nothing and with the right tools steel and titanium (I've done both). I'd say just look at lathes with 500w + motor power.

    • @garychap8384
      @garychap8384 6 років тому

      Ahhhh. Well, there are a few very similar spec 300mm tables in 550w and 600w - but I may have to save my pennies... oh, and be real nice to the wife.
      Thanks for the advice, you've probably saved me some headaches down the line : )
      Please keep posting the videos. A good 80% of my motivation is coming from this channel : )

  • @leoweber3629
    @leoweber3629 6 років тому

    Link to buy either one? I need a mini turbo for model engines

  • @caiheang
    @caiheang 7 років тому +4

    I don't know if it's considered "clickbait, cuz' the title sounds like it's making a pretty serious accusation, but the video didn't really back up anything. :X

  • @tomonetruth
    @tomonetruth 7 років тому +4

    3:01 Third Reich beats Isle of Man

  • @pkrent3461
    @pkrent3461 7 років тому +431

    You just copied what engineers designed a century ago!

    • @nuclear9977
      @nuclear9977 7 років тому +10

      copy paste brock

    • @ghoulishgoober3122
      @ghoulishgoober3122 7 років тому +4

      Brock Brazee show some variation and make a new post instead of copy pasting

    • @WafflesASAP
      @WafflesASAP 7 років тому +1

      *two centuries ago.

    • @kyrodes
      @kyrodes 7 років тому +5

      If you and me are going to build a Barbie-scale bicycle, I'm pretty sure both bikes are going to have similar size and components.

    • @smashedtomato9591
      @smashedtomato9591 7 років тому +6

      Brock Brazee
      Thing is, he accused others of "copying" his design.

  • @justinberdell7517
    @justinberdell7517 3 роки тому

    Are they selling the copy or what? How did you find it and acquire one?

  • @hopeindarktimes
    @hopeindarktimes 4 роки тому

    What do you do with it? Does it have any true function other than a novelty?

  • @francoisotis2764
    @francoisotis2764 7 років тому +14

    I know what you feel. I'm the one who invented the wheel...

    • @ChfHappySack
      @ChfHappySack 7 років тому

      9snaker I invented the doggy style position.

    • @ChfHappySack
      @ChfHappySack 7 років тому +1

      Dude c'mon. pick on the other guys who said they invented the wheel and rectangle, don't single me out you douche! You know damn well they didn't invent that shit either lol.

  • @SaquibFaisal
    @SaquibFaisal 7 років тому +6

    He not only copied but improved it...

    • @PainterVierax
      @PainterVierax 7 років тому +1

      So that's not a copy :D

    • @RizLazey
      @RizLazey 7 років тому

      Vierax thats a copy lol, every copies are better than the original ones

    • @PainterVierax
      @PainterVierax 7 років тому +2

      Absolutely not. A copy is not an improved product. A copy is a clone, a counterfeit, it's not only some patent infringement. There is no R&D in a copy, just eventual regressions due to cost optimization. The honest title of this video should be "a chinese factory improved my prototype based on public domain turbine schematics, go buy one to give me money"

  • @jdjdjdif9777
    @jdjdjdif9777 7 років тому +86

    I think your turbine installed in opposite direction.

    • @YungOmni
      @YungOmni 6 років тому +1

      exactly what i was thinking

    • @32Zn
      @32Zn 6 років тому

      Unofficial Clout The thumbnail actually shows both motors with the right direction. In the video the copied product actually has the wrong installed direction if the purpose is to "create" torque

    • @CTSSTC
      @CTSSTC 6 років тому

      I wonder if it's just that frame at 3:12 that might have been put together incorrectly?
      One scoops air out easier, but the other should take it in more efficient I would think¿
      I would imagine the smoother angles on the fins to be more efficient in the copy as well.

  • @adrianonea8468
    @adrianonea8468 3 роки тому

    He improved it. You should be proud. That's what open source is all about. Love this channel.

  • @devjock
    @devjock 7 років тому

    Emulation truly is the sincerest form of flattery. I'd be stoked about copycats. If someone somewhere would think it's worth it to reverse engineer my designs, and even improve on the performance somewhat, all the while selling it for dirt cheap prices, i'd be over the moon. This is awesome!

  • @Rhagedx86
    @Rhagedx86 7 років тому +61

    Not much of a copy....

  • @Incidental104
    @Incidental104 7 років тому +102

    The copy looks better

    • @ilikelobsters.2376
      @ilikelobsters.2376 6 років тому

      Mikayel Jamalyan but which works better?

    • @theseballsrlife5367
      @theseballsrlife5367 6 років тому

      @@ilikelobsters.2376 the copied one

    • @cedrick25
      @cedrick25 6 років тому

      @JermmyT The guy who copied his design made a video saying he copied it

    • @pd4165
      @pd4165 5 років тому

      The copy had the benefit of someone else doing a lot of research for them.
      My dad used to have creative ideas and I'd quite often look at what he was doing and chuck in something like 'it'd work better upside down'.
      I've never had an original idea in my life.
      Maybe the copiest is like me - a developer, not an inventor.
      But that's how humans became a success - standing on the shoulders of those that went before.

  • @seonjie
    @seonjie 7 років тому +43

    copy ? Turbine already exist many year

    • @nuclear9977
      @nuclear9977 7 років тому

      copy paste brock

    • @Landrew0
      @Landrew0 7 років тому

      Seon wei jie
      Just a pinwheel in a metal ca .

    • @seonjie
      @seonjie 7 років тому

      haha

  • @syairchairun
    @syairchairun 7 років тому

    U make the rotor from dc small motor right? And cut in shape?

  • @GoodBoyOnTheInternet
    @GoodBoyOnTheInternet 4 роки тому

    How much thrust does your turbine have compared to the copy?

  • @tiborklein5349
    @tiborklein5349 7 років тому +103

    They're just as similar as a BMW and a Honda. They're both cars, but not copies of each other. Different materials, quality, features and looks.
    Claiming that they copied you is a bit pretentious in my opinion.
    Not that I care anyway.

    • @SdisticDrummer
      @SdisticDrummer 7 років тому +7

      Tibor Klein
      You Cared enough to comment

    • @tiborklein5349
      @tiborklein5349 7 років тому +9

      Yes, because UA-cam recommended this video for a week.

    • @manicmute9440
      @manicmute9440 7 років тому +2

      FAW - Arrh, you're a delicate little flower, aren't you sweetheart.

    • @tiloalo
      @tiloalo 7 років тому

      He actually make it clear than the "copy" is better than his design, you should watch the video before commenting...

    • @SubOptimal_
      @SubOptimal_ 7 років тому

      You clearly didnt even watch the video

  • @Lukas-w8p
    @Lukas-w8p 7 років тому +15

    lol the rotor of the copy looks kind of like a swastika...

    • @rbn_hmrs541
      @rbn_hmrs541 7 років тому

      no shidd cpt. obvious

    • @Lukas-w8p
      @Lukas-w8p 7 років тому

      eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  • @markettt
    @markettt 7 років тому +90

    That's like the person who invented the bicycle saying the person who invented the motorcycle copied his design...

    • @kirinyardberry1324
      @kirinyardberry1324 7 років тому +45

      Yeah that's a horrible analogy.

    • @patricksworkshop6010
      @patricksworkshop6010 7 років тому +4

      M4RK3T except john here said the copy was better built

    • @xXxNoScopeMLGxXx
      @xXxNoScopeMLGxXx 6 років тому

      Patrick’s Workshop, I'd argue a motorcycle is better built. I can go much faster and get much less tired riding my motorcycle compared to riding my bicycle.

    • @zanpekosak2383
      @zanpekosak2383 6 років тому

      Sorry but you kinda messed up this explanation.

    • @Swaygooy
      @Swaygooy 6 років тому

      He didn’t “invent” anything. This is more like the guy who made the rocking chair getting mad at the guy that made the lazyboy.

  • @Batmanderp38
    @Batmanderp38 6 років тому

    Its great how this guy isnt mad in the slightest how someone else just made a bigger version.

  • @machinedragon
    @machinedragon 6 років тому

    I have been wondering. If the cases were sealed and shared a stator wheel in between could this be a really tiny torque converter

  • @D-Man_Jam
    @D-Man_Jam 7 років тому +4

    The copy looks a little better no offense its because its factory

    • @whitepaws60
      @whitepaws60 7 років тому

      DJBATMANGOLD No a human can do that by hand

  • @lcsiew8875
    @lcsiew8875 7 років тому +4

    mini turbocharger?

  • @bonghits420dome
    @bonghits420dome 7 років тому +3

    Looking for 13B parts for my FC RX7

  • @dawsoncolby5487
    @dawsoncolby5487 6 років тому

    This guy isn't the first to make a small air powered turbine, so you could turn around and say, "HE STOLE IT"

  • @WineScrounger
    @WineScrounger 6 років тому

    In the last half of the video one of the turbines has its rotor in backwards. Does this affect performance?

  • @theluc1f3r93
    @theluc1f3r93 7 років тому +8

    3:21 Nazi copy your design :D

  • @hotdoge1393
    @hotdoge1393 6 років тому +4

    New macbook cooler ;)

  • @MrSandwichk
    @MrSandwichk 6 років тому +4

    Zuckerburger copied my idea ..

  • @zhangjeffery1326
    @zhangjeffery1326 7 років тому

    What can this be used for? If I build an enlarged version can it power something? Someone tell me

  • @skyyeo235
    @skyyeo235 6 років тому

    Remember "Ideas Are Bulletproof" they can only be modified but the idea will never vanished easily..

  • @Luluindia2003
    @Luluindia2003 7 років тому +10

    A lot of my ideas were copied too!!😡

    • @dbranham123
      @dbranham123 6 років тому +6

      What, making stupid comments on UA-cam? No.. I’m pretty sure that wasn’t your original idea.

    • @geraltofrivia9167
      @geraltofrivia9167 6 років тому +2

      dbranham123 daily dose of sarcasm

    • @dbranham123
      @dbranham123 6 років тому

      You know it!.. up high!👋🏼

    • @slugtoast4400
      @slugtoast4400 6 років тому

      what might those ideas be?

    • @heroninja1125
      @heroninja1125 6 років тому +1

      yeah such as the 4k tv that i totally thought of first but dident patent but i can still launch a nuclear bomb

  • @Bacardi6111
    @Bacardi6111 7 років тому +34

    Who cares. The 'copy' is better than your design in all the tests.

    • @markwinberry8095
      @markwinberry8095 7 років тому

      Protactinium For the same exact reason that you did.

    • @samygg7357
      @samygg7357 6 років тому

      Fking stupid asf

    • @OGYouTubeEnjoyer
      @OGYouTubeEnjoyer 6 років тому +2

      I take it you didn't even watch the video.

    • @realdeal5712
      @realdeal5712 6 років тому +2

      CookDoggyDogg of course he care. who doesnt feel happy knowing ur idea inspire other people to use it and improve it. u none creative trash

    • @kucingslark6590
      @kucingslark6590 6 років тому

      You Suck

  • @obsidiandestroyer7015
    @obsidiandestroyer7015 7 років тому +16

    nobody cares!

    • @JavierBacon
      @JavierBacon 7 років тому +12

      Well, you clicked on the video...

    • @Shepard_AU
      @Shepard_AU 6 років тому +4

      You cared enough to post some useless comment.

    • @joshcoombes8680
      @joshcoombes8680 6 років тому

      Obsidian Destroyer I do shit face

  • @plabonborthakur4572
    @plabonborthakur4572 6 років тому

    what are the practical applications of these mini turbines

  • @bengriffin4027
    @bengriffin4027 7 років тому

    Notice the rotor blade profiles are curved in opposite directions (relative to air flow) in the two turbine examples. This may be one reason for the significant performance variance.

  • @sledgenwedge
    @sledgenwedge 6 років тому

    So, does that make you want to make a better turbine than the copy? Maybe more blades and Tighter tolerances for more torque and higher RPMs still keeping the same material assembly weight? Maybe instead of 3 blades six blades at half the width?

  • @onlygearwarrior
    @onlygearwarrior 7 років тому

    I 'invented' the Bernoulli lifting surface for an aircraft I thought would take advantage of the surface area for armor. It was to shuttle troops. I abandoned the idea. Years later, I saw someone else using it in R/C aircraft. I felt so good someone used the idea, that I wanted to get all 'geeky' about it. They took that as a threat, "Sure you had that idea.". Here, that whole deal all I felt was smart because I had an idea that worked. You get pride involved in anything and it spoils it.

  • @mduvigneaud
    @mduvigneaud 6 років тому

    Being amazingly good enough to get copied is totally baller.

  • @PlasmaBurns
    @PlasmaBurns 7 років тому

    I designed a laser sighted Pool Cue and then found out someone had copied my idea a couple years earlier as it was already for sale before I even came up with a final design. I hate it it when people steal my ideas then go back in time to profit off them.

  • @omeronieto644
    @omeronieto644 4 роки тому

    What engine are you using to add a load?

  • @SethPortland
    @SethPortland 7 років тому

    How is copy? Looks like taked normal size and made smaller.

  • @nssdesigns
    @nssdesigns 7 років тому

    Interesting but what are the applications for such a device?

  • @imthefuckinglizardking4590
    @imthefuckinglizardking4590 6 років тому

    What is this used for like a turbo in a little nitro engine?

  • @ipissed
    @ipissed 3 роки тому

    You didn't invent the high speed pneumatic turbine, they have been in dental hand pieces forever.

  • @SilverStarHeggisist
    @SilverStarHeggisist 4 роки тому

    Wow, the product everyone hopes to get on wish... The knock off that's better then the original.
    The end covers bolted on is a nice added touch too. Giving a good natural mounting point and higher strength.

  • @SeanLain
    @SeanLain 7 років тому

    Yeah, looks like your fins also block more air inbetween passes of the blade. Like how the copy is rounded which applies a longer stream of air per fin pass. Cool stuff

  • @johnafish
    @johnafish 6 років тому

    At 3:00 the rotor in the 'copy' version appears to be installed backwards.

  • @jonasphilippe5201
    @jonasphilippe5201 7 років тому

    I would personally call it "improved version" rather than "copy". Both designs seems to be similar, but the "heart" of the turbine, as well as the clearance are very different.

  • @alexandervanhoek8245
    @alexandervanhoek8245 7 років тому

    They say that it's the utimate and most wonderful compliment "to you" when someone copies your design. I'd be proud of having made such a beautiful little tubine and have someone copy it. They obviously saw the potential and beauty of your design that they decided to explore it a bit and make their own version of it. I love that little turbine and i know who made it too, JohnnyQ90. Happy science fellow designer.

  • @littlesnowflakepunk855
    @littlesnowflakepunk855 6 років тому

    If you happened to have infinite compressed air, you can hook up an array of these to a bunch of small electric motors and make an air-powered generator. It’d be hella loud though

  • @KnightShift006
    @KnightShift006 3 роки тому

    Richard Branson a month-to-month change over reverse fan or brakes and vacuum immediately stop gas valves off or enough PSI fan left on for 1 second.
    Somehow you've got the concept safe enough

  • @Windows035
    @Windows035 7 років тому

    you're kidding me. they each have like 4 parts. from one engineer to another, that's the best way to build a microturbine. i would have done the same

  • @NUKINATOR44
    @NUKINATOR44 7 років тому

    What are the mini turbine used for?

  • @MikMoen
    @MikMoen 7 років тому

    So someone built the same design you did, and increased it's efficiency by a metic shit ton. I would've taken that personally.

  • @tiloalo
    @tiloalo 7 років тому

    Very modest of you to publish this, a rare move on UA-cam :-)