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FLETCH FIGHT: FOB vs VANES
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- I was really eager to put this crazy looking FOB thing to the test. How does it compare to vanes, and specifically Blazers? Check out the vid to see. There's also a coupon code to receive 10% OFF if you order them from their website: FOBArchery.com I get a small bit as well, which helps me purchase materials for my tests.The code is LUSK10 Thank you!
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Best review on these FOBS yet!!! Thanks for all the time you put into this.
Thanks brother. I really appreciate the encouragement and you watching :)
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Hy my frend, you make excelent vids! I whant to pleas you to show us the bow when you shot the fobs. Sorry for bad anglis, i am Hun:-).
Add another vote for FOB from me. I've been using them since 2009 and for the speed of fletching, ease of replacing on the range and getting that arrow back in the quiver immediately, and laser beam accuracy at long distance I'll never use vanes again. As far as losing an arrow on a pass through shot, that has never been an issue for me. I have lost a couple but if i lose that arrow on a shot at an animal I'll gladly trade that arrow shaft for the memory. Honestly though after walking a couple circles where the animal was the shafts have always been pretty easy to find. For the price they're worth getting a package and trying them out.
Great video and review!
Robert Henry Thank you. And thanks for sharing your experience!
So how heavy are they? I hear there hvy. So it messes up your f.o.c.! Also, wouldn't it prevent your arrow from passing through or does it stay in them as they run off?
Mr. Skeptical watch the video and find out
I have shot them in @ 60 yds in a 40 mph crosswind and was only about an 1.5” off center ring. Please do a test with the fobs at longer range for a video
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Absolutely best vids on equipment! Totally unbiased!
Thank you. I really strive to be neutral on the stuff I test. When it does well, I say it does; and when it doesn't I show it not doing well :)
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@Sullivan Castiel yup, I've been watching on InstaFlixxer for years myself :)
Great review! I've been using FOBs since 2011, and love them! I don't use anything else when hunting from a tree stand.
l00nybin That’s good to hear. Thanks for sharing that.
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@@LuskArcheryAdventures Good to see you're still using them!
Thanks, will be watching to see the hunting results. It will be interesting to see what the people who manufacture vanes have to say.
Jack Whaley Thanks Jack. Certainly nothing wrong with vanes. These just have some different strengths...and vice versa as well.
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we shoot and love fobs. carefull some nocks are not long enough and at full draw the string will connect the fob and pop it off. these were arrows we made not the fob suggested ones. be safe. fobs are exellent
That's a great comment to add Heather. Thank you!
Great review, I really like the gel test. Can't wait to see the hunting part.
Texas BowHunter Me too. I’m eager to put them to that real world test. Thanks brother.
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Great video, thank you. I like the look of vanes and I don’t mind fletching arrows. I do like to see new ideas and products on the market, but I’m on the fence with the FOB.
Remi Yeah, I get it. I like the look too :) These are definitely not for everyone. But they are intriguing. Thanks for commenting Remi.
Do you hunt in windy conditions? As a Kansas native, I can attest to how well the FOBs handle strong crosswinds better than vanes. I've been using FOBs since 2011, and I won't use anything else when I hunt from a tree stand. I use vanes when I hunt from a blind since I leave the mesh screen up. I have calculated front/back balance between my vane/wrap setup and my FOB/wrap setup so that my dynamic spine is the same. I can stack FOB and vane on top of each other. The FOB has popped off with every deer I've shot, so I know where to start looking, and the reflective wrap I use makes finding the arrow at dusk very easy.
I live in the PNW and it does get windy. I mainly spot and stock, I’m usually hunting in extremely brushy densely wooded areas. I have no doubt the FOB is good alternative to fletching.
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I love these! I stopped using vanes and fletching over a year ago.
That's cool to hear. I have been enjoying them as well. I'm eager to try them out on a hunt.
I've been using FOBs for over a decade. I like them, very precise vs glue/vane/angle on vane installation. Consistent. They make sense and they work.
Thanks for sharing that Aaron. I agree!
Glad you done this, I've been wondering about these
Thanks Mike. They sure are intriguing.
If you drill them out so they can slide down shaft and use o rings to hold them in place you can place them for more comfortable anchor
Thanks for that comment. I did do that later that season.
Enjoyed the video! I’ve thought about trying these, but like you I was skeptical. After this video I’m open to try this product.👍
Give em a try. They’re not for everyone but they are intriguing and fun. Thanks for watching and commenting brother.
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Thanks for doing the homework for us , John...
Thanks for watching JJ.
I have had these for years now and I agree, they flat out work. as for nock pinch there used to be (maybe still is) a nock company called Accu-noc their nock was a bit longer and has a string grabbing feature. Also to avoid those "FOBinhoods" put a mesh or target face about 3 to 4 feet in front of your target...allows you to group tune without busting nock's and FOB's.
When I was a member of the "FOBNATION" forum waaaay back, some of those guys came up with some really cool "hacks" so to speak for these FOB's.
COOL video!!!!
Thank you Johnny. That's great input and thanks for sharing!
Great video John! Got some, can't wait to try them!
Thank you Barrett. Much appreciated brother.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures thanks for the awesome videos brother!
Thank you Barrett. Thats very kind of you to say. God bless.
I've been shooting FOBs ever since Paul came out with them. They just sat in my archery cabinet for more than a month because I kept putting off trying them. I was kind of dreading it as I was thinking about what could happen if the rest did not drop fast enough. I was very pleasantly surprised at the shot when nothing exploded and the arrow flew like a dart! I've been shooting them ever since. I have killed dozens of animals using FOBs and can't imagine ever changing to anything else. Most of the time when you hear someone criticizing FOBs, it is either someone with a really bad anchor or someone that has their nocks TOO TIGHT and their FOBs are breaking on impact with the target, and in many cases, the naysayers have never even tried them (typical for the AT crowd).
Joe Blake Haha. Very true Joe. There were a lot of scare stories about rest timing. But the FOBs stick out less than a Blazer and you have a few more inches for the rest to fall before they get there. If that causes a problem, the rest was way out of tune already. Good to hear your experience. I’m eager to try them on some animals.
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Interesting concept, but we think we will stick with regular vanes. Great review as always!
Thanks brother. Much appreciated. It's sure not for everyone. But it is intriguing.
Great review!👍🏽👍🏽 I've gone back and forth with these. Never had any problems with em I guess I just get bored and like to tinker way too much. Gonna be ordering another dzn and wraps as well.
Marcial Perez Yeah, I get it. I’m going to give them a whirl this fall and see how much I like them there.
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Cool concept to consider. However, the reason for better penetration could be the veins caused significant slowdown through the gel where the FOB came off allowing it to pass through the gel effortlessly. Nonetheless, great vid and comparison between the two.
Well, yes, that's the exact point I was making; the vanes create drag thru any medium. Thank you for watching!
Ok so after watching this video I purchased a pack I stripped off my 3” 4 fletch fletchings and wraps put on a fob and shot it all I can say is if your not shooting fobs you definitely need to be now with that said I’ve shot them through 2 of my hunting setups my dangerous game set up it’s a btx28 pulling 83 pounds with Easton fmj 300 nock on addition with 200 grains at the nose of the arrow it weighs 630 grains and my deer set up is a 72 pound Hoyt nitrum shooting a 400 grain arrow the fobs had no issue stabilizing either setup and increased accuracy using fixed blad broadheads drastically I’m able to spot shoot with fixed blade broadheads at 50 yards all I can say is buy a pack shoot them and I’m willing to bet a fob will be on your arrow this hunting season
Thanks for sharing that Mike. That's really good to hear. I know they're not for everyone, but they sure have done well for me so far. I'm eager to try them on some hunts and see how they perform there. Hope my discount code is helpful as well :)
What broadheads you shooting?
TacticalPreacher I’m shooting Bishop single bevel 2 blade
Very interesting. They look to be legit, but I just enjoy fetching my arrows. Kinda fun to go through the process.
Thanks Andy. Yeah, sometimes I feel the same; I like tinkering around getting things ready. I appreciate you watching and commenting.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures absolutely. Always look forward to your videos.
Thanks brother.
killed my elk with fobs on Easton 4 mm shafts last year, shot through young salmon berrys and they preformed well.... but bushes will steal the fobs off your arrows as you hike so guard them..
Heather Hoen That’s good feedback. I wondered about that. I guess they have to be tight enough to stay on but loose enough to pop off an animal. At least you can bring some extras with you and replace them easily. Congrats on the elk!
yes good review
Thank you Heather.
Really enjoy your videos sir.
Thank you Richard; I really appreciate that.
I have another question for you. Have you applied uv (ultra violent) light to the neon green color to see if it reflects the light. Mossy oak neon nocks do (light refraction) and are easy to find at night with a good uv flashlight.
That is a good question. And no, I have not done that.
Thanks for sharing!
oldman withAbow Thank you sir! Much appreciated.
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Decided to order a pack of these and give them a try. I’ve always been skeptical, but given what you’ve shown, doesn’t look like it would hurt to add some of these to my quiver for certain set up’s.
They're worth a look for sure.
Nice review.
Thanks Jayson. Much appreciated my friend.
Great video and interesting concept. Vary innovative. But there is just no way i will part with my whisker biscuit. Keep up the great videos.
Yeah, I get it. Those are really reliable and simple. Thanks for the encouragement.
I can see this working better with a drop away rest
Well, they only work with a drop away rest.
That puts me out lol I like my biscuit
Have you tested the FOB's for drop at long distance?
Yeah, I've shot them out to 100 yds. I have noticed at very long ranges, they drop a bit more than my Blazers.
Orange wrap is what I use.
Don Caruso Nice. Easy to find.
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Have to admit that I was thinking "What The FOB" is this BS? After watching the video I am now thinking "Why In The FOB" have I not seen these sooner? Pretty sure I will be giving these a try. If nothing else just so I can say I fletch my own arrows. LOL!
Charles Byrum LOL. That is the funniest comment I’ve seen in a while. That’s how I felt too! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Funny cause FOB's have actually been around for quite some time. If I'm not mistaken I think they are under new ownership And I think that's why you're starting to see them again. I have shot them out to 80 yards and they do an amazing job at bucking high crosswinds. I'm actually going to order another dozen and wraps as well.
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I'm a whisker biscuit guy unfortunately but if i ever switch to a drop away I'd try them
Thanks for the comment
I have fobs for a few years and I never ever shot them.....I just enjoy building my own arrows....but.i will try them one day
Thanks for watching and commenting. Somehow this comment got buried and I missed it.
Some are not round, wobble as they fly. Had only a few. But I like them.
Maybe in the old ones. But there is a new owner and they are very well constructed. Have you tried them recently? Thanks for commenting.
Thx dude, its a very usefull vid!!!
You're very welcome. I really appreciate the encouragement :)
levi morgan says that much helical hurts at really long range 60 yards and beyond
Well, it does affect speed, but it improves accuracy. I shoot it really well out to 100 yds, especially with fixed blade heads.
i’ve thought about helical for hunting arrows my shoots are 35 or less practice a lot farther but on a animal i set a limit i feel confident in
My groups are very tight I have five robinhooded arrows at forty yards so far , I've shot shafts touching at a 100 yards three shot groups. You should try a accuracy test and penetration test on straight versus helical.plus the noise helical makes at high speeds is way to loud causing deer to jump the shot
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Richard. Honestly, I am not concerned about arrow flight noise. I've never seen it be an issue in the field. Bow noise is horrible, cause the animals can pin point the origin...but I've zipped arrows past turkeys, and deer and elk with helical vanes and never had them move a bit. For all they know, it's a bird or bug zipping by.
Awesome they gave you a code 10%... I've tried them. I fall in the 30" draw and short ATA. It's ok. I still rock Blazers.... But FOB group as good as Blazers, however face contact makes me shy away.
Aaron Hall Yep. Definitely not for everyone. I love Blazers too. Thanks for watching and commenting Aaron.
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I’ve been shooting FOB’S since 2011 I’ll never go back 🏹🦌☠️👍🏼
That's good to hear!
How does the arrow rest interact with flight? Is there a certain rest recommended?
Any drop away rest will work. You can't use a whisker biscuit or prong style rest.
How do they fit in a quiver? My blazer vanes overlap quite a bit... My arrows have just a hair under 3/4" between each other in the quiver... How tall are these from the shaft?
The entire diameter is 1", so they stick out less far from the arrow than a Blazer vane does. There is no problem fitting 5 of them in my Tightspot quiver. If there were a problem, they are so short that they can easily be staggered above and below one another.
I think hunters care way to much about noise. I can drive right up to deer on my lawn mower and they will not run away. Hell I have put arrows right next to deer without them running away. I have listened to podcast with the sound all the way up without them running away. Only thing that's scares them is the sounds of leaves being stepped on.
In general, I agree that arrow flight noise is not a very big deal. Bow shot noise can be, but they cannot pinpoint the origin of a flying arrow--it could be a bug or bird flying by for all they know. But I suppose every animal and environment can be different.
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Thank you
I tried them , some are good but some are not balanced, wobbling all over in flight. Saw no improvement in long range shooting 40 to 100 yards. Would buy them again.
Interesting. They are being re made by the new owners; I'd be surprised to hear that some are not balanced. But I appreciate you sharing your experiences.
Would make finding your arrow impossible after passing thru an animal
It can be difficult. That's why they recommend using a reflective wrap. After using them on animals, the nice thing is the FOB falls off right where you hit the animal, so you can find the exact spot you shot the animal fairly easily. Then you just line up which direction the arrow was going and you can find it. But if it buries under leaves, it can be difficult.
Lusk Archery Adventures that makes sense. I enjoy the videos. Keep them coming
@@LuskArcheryAdventures This was my same concern. That fob pops off and I lose my arrow. I'll be looking at wraps.
Deflection would suck🤠👍
What do you mean by that?
They've been around for quite some time, I would use em but I don't shoot a drop away rest, I use a hostage.
Jimena Gulla Yeah, I remember reading about them on Archery Talk many years ago. But the owner kind of let them go a bit. The new owners are great guys and are really passionate about them. Who knows the future, but I always applaud innovation and US made stuff.
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So 10 more grains plus 10 more grains for a lighted knock is alot on the back! Killing your FOC!
Well, it was actually less than 10 grains, I measured it again and it was 5 grains. Not sure why I made that mistake. But I have about 17% FOC, so it's not an issue for me.
I would think of it as a blow dart vs a typical arrow
Okay. Thanks for watching and commenting.
If they wasn’t so ugly lol, great video buddy.
Haha. I'm working on making it look cooler with some wraps and color combos :)
Hi John. Thanks for yet another review however it would have been more comprehensive if you had shown how the FOB arrows group especially at distance (60 yrds plus).
Walter Walters Thanks Walter. I appreciate the feedback. I showed them shooting at 80, and thought that was probably enough. I’ve shot them a few hundred times now and grouping is not an issue at any distance.
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They have to arrow drag and make noise almost a whistle.
Well, they're very similar to my helical Blazers--slightly louder and slightly more drop at very long range.
Hey John, love your videos, you really do have the best tests on youtube. A question I had was does your arizona easy fletch come with a 4 degree helical? do you have to buy a special one or special attachments?
Thank you Tommy; I really appreciate it brother. Yes, the Arizona EZ Fletch Mini comes with a 4 degree helical...which is why it is so nice.
Ok. Before you shoot the first arrow I can see them being destroyed in tight groups and catching on the plunger on recurve.
Yeah, they have to be used with a drop away rest, as I mentioned. And they do get hit on tight groups...but they're fairly durable and not very expensive.
Great video John, I'm going 2 be hunting with a low profile fixed blade BH Holy Trinity in the 125 grain size with a just over 16% FOC so the weight doesn't bother me due 2 shooting both smaller surface area on the front as well as the back of the arrow when using the FOB. However I have micro Victory VAP TKO's 4 less drag & more penetration with a 515 grain setup. The blazer vanes on these shafts with the Blazer jig r very consistent from 1 arrow 2 the next. I also am using pin nocks on these VAPS so my ? is what do i have 2 do 2 incorporate FOB into my setup? I have 2 bare shafts & a new well tuned bow & I am finding no difference when shooting those also.
Thank you Joseph. I really appreciate the encouragement and support. Sounds like you have a great set up. You certainly don't "need" to incorporate the FOB. But summer is a good time to play around and try some stuff out. I would suggest you get a pack and try them on any bare shaft you have. Make sure you order the correct size. They sure look weird when you're looking at them. But you get use to that. They have some good colors. and adding a nice wrap makes it look cooler. I would just experiment a bit and see which set up you prefer.
So… 2 years later what do you think?
Good question. I still like them; so many great strengths. My only challenge was sometimes finding my arrow when it was shot into grass or under leaves.
You didn’t mention the most obvious disadvantage, they look stupid. Not for me but, thanks for a good review.
Haha. That's funny. They do take some getting used to.
@Lusk Archery Adventures have you checked out the ZINGER FLETCHINGS YET?
Yeah. I’ve used them in a lot of the broadheads I’ve tested, and commented on them on those vids. It I’ve not done a formal review of them yet. But I can say, I’ve been liking them.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Thank You for Replying, you are my Go to for A lot of Info. You do a Great Job and Have a Great Channel.
Hi John I just started watching your channel and I was reeled in by the different broadhead tests. My question is as far as expandable broadheads what would be your top 3 as of today that you would use. Thanks
Dan Merck Hey Dan. That’s a good question. Top 3 Mechs as of today; hard to narrow it down. But Sevr 1.5 or 1.7, Afflictor Hybrid and I’m about to finish testing the Grim Reaper Micro Hybrid. It sure flies well. Durability test is next.
Oh and thank you for watching and commenting!
Thanks for the reply. Been thinking of switching from rage hypodermic. Was looking at dead meat g5 but was just curious of your tops. Much appreciated. I'll continue my search and continue to watch.
Rages are good, but they're not the best. In one of my big mech tests, the Dead Meat took first place. I like that head. But I don't totally trust the way the blades open and close within a medium. I've set up several different layers of different materials. When the material was really hard, the blades would open fully. But then when the mediums were softer, the blades close back down. The wound channel varied from 1.5" diameter down to 1". That's why it penetrated well, but in an animal that will not cut as much tissue. Most mechanicals have that problem, except for the Sevr and the Afflictor Hybrid.
Sevr has had my attention since I first seen Deer and Deer hunting talking about it. My main concern with it really is that the blades will move if they come in contact with something such as bone, does that mean if its passing through a deer and comes across something other than bone like an organ, will the blade move and not damage it as well as it would if the blade was fixed. Just a thought I guess. It all comes down to shot placement at the end. I'm very picky. Lol. I once shot a doe with a rage and the angle was steep. Looking back I wouldn't have taken the shot but instead of penetrating the deer it found a rib and rode down the deer cutting it clean open. I did recover the deer but I didn't like how the broadhead did that. "Really my fault" but thats a case where the sevr would probably preform much better I'd think. Thanks for your time John.
John do you use the 458gr arrows for all game animals? Also are the mammoth arrows .246" ID?
Yes, I do. I find that weight is a good balance of everything for me. I will use a heavier arrow when I go after a Cape Buffalo though :)
Great video and honest review. I have you ever tested the blazer slide on vanes?
Thank you. I have tested them. I like them, but they are heavier and the wrap comes off after a while. But they are fast.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures they were tested by one of the bowhunting magazines and out performed all vanes for broadhead flight
Thanks for this video. I noticed the nock came off with the fob when it went through the gel. Does this mean I will lose the nock everytime this goes through a deer?
The nock will stay in the FOB, but it will come out of the arrow. Easy enough to find with the FOB though.
How do they fit in your quiver?
They fit fine in my 5 arrow Tightspot. If for some reason they were too tight in a quiver, they're very easy to stagger, like to have one a bit higher and the next one a bit lower, since they are so thin vertically.
Mr Lusk don't you have to make your dloop wider if you have a short ATA bow and change the wale tail on your qad rest?
Thanks for watching Angelo and for commenting. I do prefer a wider d loop and a brass or knotted knocking point to keep the d loop from pinching the arrow. But I don't change the capture on the rest.
The rest is supposed to be down and out of the way by the time the fletching or FOB passes through. That is the idea of the drop away, it is out of the picture once the shaft gets moving. Some drop away immediately, others are microtuned to support the arrow until the very last microsecond before the fletchings pass through, then drop away just prior to the fletching arriving at the rest.
Can these FOBS be used on tradition arrows?
Thanks for the w question. No, they cant. Then can only be used with a drop away rest so they can get the clearance from the rest.
WHAT KIND OF REST DO YOU NEED TO SHOOT FOB'S?
It has to be a Drop Away style rest.
What kind of arrow rest do you use with fobs. That's my big question because I've been thinking to switching to fobs
I use a QAD Ultra Rest MXT. But any drop away rest will work fine.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures thanks man yea that's what I shoot now so thanks
how is that piece of plastic supposed to go through a rest?
Well, I commented on that. You can only use them with a drop away rest.
Lusk10 no longer gives the discount.
Yeah, that was a few years ago. I’m not sure what’s going on with the company now. Sorry about that.
I'm sold haha
Haha. They've been great on my hunts so far as well.
Did you shoot through chronograph?
Man, it was so long ago, I don't totally remember. But the drop was similar between the helical vanes and the FOB, so I imagine the speeds were similar.
Do you use the Arizona EZ fletch tool to get the 4 deg Helical
Yes. I use the Mini. Works pretty well.
what kind of nocks and arrow rest do you use with the FOBs?
I use a QAD Ultra Rest and either standard Easton nocks or Nockturnals.
Really like the fobs, do not like the spinning of the arrows, you lose a lot of penetration trying to spin a arrow through a deer, I shoot straight fletch on all my arrows and bolts
Thanks for sharing that, Richard. Every vane, whether straight or helical, causes a rotation of the arrow--that's how they stabilize an arrow. It's just that a helical vane or FOBs create more spin to stabilize the flight of the arrow a bit more.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures my arrows don't spin the air flows so fast that the shaft stabilizes in flight this makes a very quiet shot plus increasing the broadheads ability to slice through without losing any energy.you should do a comparison in you're gel block you'll see the difference.plus you're accuracy will still be there.
Seems like these kind of disappeared after a while. Fobs were a fad.
Well, lots of people still use them, but not as many as normal vanes, that’s for sure.
Will this work with a whisker biscuit
Nope, it has to be a drop away rest.
Fob is faster!
Thanks for sharing that.
Hey anyone / everyone is there any place I can walk into and pay cash for fobs? I don't want to throw my card out if possible, been burned in the past. Thanks
I am not sure there is anywhere like that. But I bet you could order them from their site and send them a check. Could that work for you?
What broadheads you shooting?
Man, I shoot a lot of different heads; I've tested over a hundred different heads and have reviews here on my channel for most of them. This test was with a Grim Reaper Micro Hades.
They are allowed in ASA or IBO competition.
Sadly, no IBO, which I think is part of why they haven't caught on more. IBO's reasoning is BS if you ask me.
@100nybin ASA and IBO ban them due to the fact that they will deflect arrows that are shot after a FOBed arrow. We understand, and it's a legitimate reason. Just sucks for us!
@@fobarchery2768 So will a pin nock bushing, yet those are allowed. I would argue that those will deflect an arrow more than a FOB will since they are metal. It just seems like inconsistent logic to me.
Yeah, nope.
Then I wonder why more don't use it probably cuz they look goofy
Hard to change what you're used to.
What arrow rest do they work best with?
You can use any drop away rest.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures ...and those don't exactly work very well on recurves, do they?
Wow, I thought this just a gimmick........apparently not
Yeah, they definitely have their niche.
Stand to the side and let one go by you. They are very noisy.
Well, I tested them with a decibel meter and they were very close. But again, I was comparing them to helical blazers, which are a bit louder than straight ones.
Can you use FOBs on crossbows?
No, they won't work with the rails on the crossbow.
Can I use these with a wisker biscuit??
Nope. I said that in the vid.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures ok thanks great vid 👍👍
All fletching make noise.
Don Caruso Yep. You’re right.
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Any updates on hunting with them?
Good question. My first hunt is in Montana later on this month. After that, I will begin hunting deer here in Iowa, in October. I will know a lot more then. Thank you for asking.
I hunted with them all last year and it worked out great I will tell you this when u hit a animal with them and pass through the fob doesn’t fly off and go feet from where u hit the animal all 3 deer shot with them the fob just fell to the ground I had my arrow on one side and about the with of a deer was the fob
Imma keep it real with you, love the reviews and this was a good one however, I would never be able to get over how darn ugly these look. Gotta stay with the veins
Definitely could see where these have a place though.
Haha. I get it. Vanes just look cool. But man, these are so easy to use. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
melvin sacromentoe I’m with you on this one
Don’t knock them till you try them are we shooting bows or joining beauty contests lol sorry I had too
Do this one work on recurvbow?
Does your bow have a drop away rest? Recurve, doubt it
You would have to be using a drop away rest in order to use the FOBs.
I'd consider this or the new 3D printed vanes on a tube (name?), if I didn't enjoy making my arrows.
Yeah, I've seen those as well. 3D printing is no where near as precise as these though.
Wait you live in iowa
Yeah, I live in Johnston.
Lusk Archery Adventures oh nice i live in perry
One other negative... as a traditionalist... they don’t look as cool...personal preference I guess.
David Buurma Yeah, I feel the same. I’m wondering how I’ll feel after I get more used to them. Compound bows looked ugly at first two :) And my daughter wasn’t exactly a beauty when she first came out :). I’m going to experiment with colors and wraps to see if I can “cool” them up a bit :)
John good points...looking forward to the research
Thank you David.
You must time your launcher on your rest or it could bounce up and hit your fob and throw it off.
Don Caruso That’s very true. But they stick out less than Blazers and they are farther back than vanes. So if your rest is timed correctly for vanes it will definitely be times for these.
@@JohnLuskOutdoors would u see a problem with gluing your nock in so that when it hit your illuminock wouldn't pop off. Would the fob then hinder penetration?
cfro123 You could do that but the FOB wont come off if the nock doesn’t come off, so you’d have a problem on a pass through.
I already replied to this under John L, but to clear it from my inbox, I need to reply under this channel :)
The biggest problem with FOBs is that they are ugly. I will stick with wraps and vanes.
Haha. I can't really disagree with that. I'm experimenting with some wraps for both the arrow and the FOB, to see if I can "coolen" them up a bit :)
Junk
Why do you say that?
Just a little more thorough review would've been better. I can't see how the FOB would go through a whisker biscuit, a two-prong rest, or most of the popular arrow rests. What does it look like in the string profile of a
Well, thank you for watching. I tried to be as thorough as I could. I'm sorry it didn't meet your expectations. I explained as a "con" that they can't be used in anything other than a Drop Away Rest. And what are you referring to regarding a 36" brace height? I don't shoot fingers so I didn't include that. Most people shooting compounds don't shoot fingers.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Where does the FOB sit in relation to the string at full draw? Over 36" can be used for fingers. Under 36" the angle the string is, looks like it might contact that FOB.