APPLE M1 & UAD Apollo Get your plugins to Work!
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2021
- Here is the link to the video on how to enable kernel extensions! • Enable KERNEL Extensio... Does Universal Audio's Apollo Line of interfaces & plugins work with Apple's new M1 based Macs? Let's find out. Also how to fix missing plugins with Logic's plugin manager on M1 Macs!
Yo! Thanks for the prompt response!! I haven't bought Komplete 13 yet. I wanted to get some feedback first. So, most of the programs should work on the M1 because of Rosetta doing the translation and as long as Logic X is the DAW be used? Yeah, I'm just going with Logic X on the M1 anyway. I have Protools and other on older Mac. I wanted to keep the M1 clean. I will probably add a Waves bundle or IK Media bundle ans that's pretty much it. Then slowly get some more UAD plug-ins as they go on sale this summer and during next Christmas. Thanks Joe!!
Thank you! x
Glad I could help!!!!
Thank you
Thank you for watching!!!
I had 2 waves plugs that finally passed but still don’t show up in menus. I also tried to put them in a specific folder but still can’t see them
You can't change the folder that the Audio Units go in they must be in the components folder. MacOS will reject any unsandboxed plugins that are in other folders. But you can try this and it should help, open finder and right click on the logic icon in the applications folder then choose, get info. After that check the box that says open using rosetta, and then run the plugin manager and rescan the plugins that wouldn't work. After you do this uncheck the run in rosetta box and relaunch logic this should work for 99% of plugins that won't authorize even after using the plugin manager.
Gracias!
Your Welcome! Thanks for watching!
Do you use the Thunderbolt 2 to USB C adapter to connnect your twin?
I use a Thunderbolt 2 to Thunderbolt 3 adapter from Apple a regular USB-C adapter will not work you must use Thunderbolt 2 to Thunderbolt 3. Thunderbolt 3 uses the USB-C connector but isn't the same thing as a USB-C dongle. It's best to get the adapter Apple sells since I haven't seen any other TRUE Thunderbolt 2 to Thunderbolt 3 adapter on the market. Thanks for watching, and have a great day.
Please help. I have the apollo twin Mk II with thunderbolt 2. I bought the Mac Studio, which has thunderbolt 4 and the thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 3 adapter, but the apollo does not work for me in the Mac Studio. I have installed the latest version in Monterey, but I can't get it to work for me, since when I install it it tells me that in Security and Privacy of the mac system preferences I have to wait 30 minutes to give it permission, but it never appears.
Follow this article and yes there are new ways your Mac requires you to give permissions in the system preferences, under security and privacy. Here is the article that will walk you through everything installing your UAD software. help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/4408846715796-UAD-Software-Compatibility-with-macOS-12-Monterey
Here is another Universal Audio Article about M1 compatibility with very important information as well so make sure to follow the steps in both the articles I have linked too or you will have a terrible time getting up and running. help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/360057137692-Apple-Silicon-M1-Compatibility-Info
Hello, all my 3. party Plug Ins are successfully validated, but don't show up in the mixing window ('Audio FX'-- 'Audio Units'-- 'Universal Audio'-- only shows 'Console Recall', but not the UAD PlugIns). They do work within the Console App. Has anyone seen something alike/ solved this Problem?
Nope sounds like your UAD hardware may be malfunctioning.
Hey will a Mac mini work with a Apollo x8p I have a x8p and having issues
Yes it will work check my channel for the other videos on how to get any Apollo up and running. The video is called how to install KEXT/ kernel extensions for Big Sur on M1 and Intel. Thanks for watching.
Out of topic ... Do you think Apollo can be set on top of the macmini ?
Sure as long as it doesn’t make the Mac hotter! But it should be fine as long as they can both get airflow. Cheers!
Do you have to rescan again if you close the Logic session and reopen it? Or open a new Logic session or have to reboot your computer? That would suck if yes. Very interested in your answer pls.
No once a plugin is scanned it doesn't have to be scanned again until you upgrade that same plugin to a new version. So lets say you buy the Waves CLA76 logic will scan it when you open Logic for the first time after installing the cla76 the only time you will have to scan it again is when it is upgraded to a new version. Also Logic scans 99% of your plugins automatically as long as they are in the MacOS components folder since Logic only uses Audio Units and not VSTs. You won't have to go through the same process that I did in this video unless a plugin doesn't show up in Logic. You can't install Audio Units anywhere else except the Components folder. I hope that answers your question. Thanks for watching.
Awesome thank u sir!
@@sandygreenfield1508 Anytime and Thanks again for watching!
is your interface thunderbolt or firewire? i own a firewire apollo and need a new mac and thinking about a m1, but idont want to buy a thunderbolt option by UAD
Mine is thunderbolt, Firewire was deprecated by Apple 2 years ago it still works for now but could stop working at anytime. The Thunderbolt option card will give you more plugins and lower latency. The card is the cost of 1 UAD plugin so I would suggest getting the card if you can.
@@joesalyers ok. Thank you. The Bad Thing: The option card still cost 500 and I will loose the Dsps of a quad satellite also which is connected through my FireWire Apollo.
Is your interface Thunderbolt 2 or 3,4? I have a Thunderbolt 2 Apollo 8 and I need to know if it will work.
Yes it will work, I have a thunderbolt 2 twin and Apollo 16 and both work with the Apple Thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 3 adapter. make sure to get the Apple adapter since the other Thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 3 adapter won't work. Thanks for watching.
Hey man, hope you're well. I had the same issue but still couldn't see the plug ins in the menus. Worst of all I'm not getting any sound from anything in Logic, but I can hear my bass (plugged into the UAD) through the UAD console. What am I doing wrong?? thanks!
Did you enable kernel extensions in recovery mode on your Mac? If not go to the UAD website and search for how to enable kernel extensions in big sur there is a whole page dedicated to getting you up and running. If you will look through the comments of this page you will find a direct link to that page. Thanks for watching.
@@joesalyers I have enabled them but still can't hear anything that happens on Logic. Only on the UAD console. Do you have any other suggestions please?
@@DiegoRodiguez8 You need to research how to setup your outputs for Logic using the UAD console. Production expert has a video about setting up headphone mixes on Logic and it is the same setup for getting your monitoring setup. Just jump over to production experts channel and search for UAD Apollo headphone mixes and you'll find it.
@@joesalyers Will do. Thanks a lot for your help!
@@DiegoRodiguez8 Best of luck and thanks for watching!
can you put out a video on how to do this
I have put out a video on how to enable kernel extensions just check my channel
Which Apollo unit are you using? I'm wanting to get a 16GB M1 MacMini to run with my Apollo x6, UAD-2 Satellite and Luna ... but all of the reports plus UAD's claims that the M1 won't work with UAD software is making me delay the M1 MacMini hardware upgrade.
It works but you will have to enable kernel extensions there is step by step guide on UADs website. Also check out my other video on the M1 Mac Mini where I go through how you get the UAD software to work I'll link it at the end of my comment. I have an Apollo Twin mk2 and 2 Apollo X16 all of them are Thunderbolt 2 and I use the Thunderbolt 2 to Thunderbolt 3 adapter from Apple. The Cheaper Startech adapter will not work with the Apollos. I also use a Thunderbolt 3 Satellite which works fine. Firewire Apollos will not work unless you upgrade to the thunderbolt card there are not work arounds for firewire Apollos except using the thunderbolt card. But yes they do work and here is a link to the other video but I STRONGLY RECOMMEND you find the step by step guide on the UAD website because if you do one of the steps out of order it will not work. Basically you install the software and do not give any permissions until you do a full restart or it will fail. #1 install the UAD software. #2 The UAD software will ask you to give it permissions before you restart DO NOT DO THAT until after you restart just it cancel when those pop up come on the screen. #3 Restart your mac M1 into recovery mode and enable kernel extensions then reboot to the OS. #4 Now you can give the UAD software permissions in the MacOs preferences (Security & Privacy) #5 Make Music because everything will work. Here is my video on how to enable kernel extensions. Give it a quick watch to see how it works. But yes it works you just have to follow the step in the right order but so many people I have talked to that it doesn't work try to skip a step or do them out of order and it fails to work. Thanks for watching and have a great day. ua-cam.com/video/PKy_V_qd640/v-deo.html
@@joesalyers On the UA Support page help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/360057137692-Apple-Silicon-M1-Compatibility-Info under "LUNA Recording System" they state that LUNA will crash if a LUNA Instrument (Shape, Ravel, Minimoog, Spitfire) is loaded. I use Shape in a lot of my current mixes. Have you found that Shape will crash Luna on your M1 Mac?
@@skateborg Sorry I don't use Luna I only use the UAD Apollo Software, my studio is based around Logic Pro, and Pro Tools HDX. I know that the UAD interfaces and plugins will work as well as the Console App but I don't use LUNA. Sorry about that, I wish I had an answer for you. But the M1 machines are very powerful and can do more than 90% of Apple's intel machines when it comes to audio production.
@@joesalyers Thanks for your replies! I'll let you know what I encounter on this adventure trail.
@@skateborg If you need any help just post in the comments of the video and I'll reply as soon as I can! Best of Luck and thanks for watching!
I noticed a lot of the Logic plugins do not say successfully verified, will the verify the same way?
The Logic Plugins if they are the stock plugins built into Logic Pro they are always verified there is also no way to really turn them off so they is why it looks that way. Thanks for watching!
Good to know, Thanks
@@aboutfaith1861 Anytime!
I have an M1 MacBook Pro and it won’t let me install the driver. The application is installed but not the driver. How did you get it to work?
You must enable kernel extensions by booting into recovery mode. Reboot your machine and keep the power button pressed down, until your Mac boots into recovery mode then choose to add kernel extensions. Then the UAD software will work.
@@joesalyers it worked!! Great advice...saved me from buying a new interface lol thanks a lot!
@@drecruise7845 Glad I could help!!! Have a great day!
@@joesalyers Do you tic both check boxes or just the first one!
@@kswagger1beats783 what do you mean? You need to boot into recovery mode and choose to allow kernel extensions. It's just one check box. If that isn't what you are asking please elaborate. Thanks.
Please help here🙏🙏 I allowed the kernel at the recovery mode and My m1 still not recognised the interface 😪
Did you allow the extension in system preferences in security and privacy before or after rebooting? Follow this link and follow it word for word and don't brush over anything, and you'll be able to get it all working. You'll have to reinstall the UAD software again so don't throw it away and run the uad reset control script help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/360050791811
@@joesalyers Thank you very much for your help. I think I had the problem because I migrated all data from previous mac. Even when I uninstall The UAD, for Some reason not worked.
I had to Reinstall The MAc mini and started as a new mac.
Followed you advise and boomm!!!! Worked !!!!!
I am So happy !!!!!
You saved me !!!!!!
@@Gabrielmarchiorio I am glad everything worked out for you!! Now go on...and make some great music!! Cheer!! 🥳🎸
Bro, your advice was GOLDEN! When I got the prompt in Recovery Mode it had two.blue check boxes under allow kernel extensions. I ticked the first box and everything is straight!! Thanks for posting the video! UA need to hook you up 💯
@@joesalyers with Mac M1??
Having the same issue... it's so so annoying. Hope UAD figure this out soon.
I have another video on how to get everything working if you are still having issues. Just search my channel for a video on Kernel Extensions. Thanks for watching!
@@joesalyers Awesome Joe, will do. This video was great, allowed me to get my UAD plugins all working without freaking out further lol. Now My console and UAD meter won't load... love the M1 chip but yeah some programs are a bit buggy.
@@jonathanbyron4785 You will need to load the driver the in exact order without changing that order, this was the issue 90% of people were having all through the comments section. They must be installed and if you do one thing out of order then the UAD console and plugins will be problematic and buggy. Search on the UAD website for how to install UAD on Apple Silicon. If you follow the steps in the exact order that Universal Audio set out in the instructions the UAD software will be rock solid. If you do one step out of order it will become unstable. I have been using UAD on an M1 Mac Mini and a M1 13 inch Macbook Pro since January of 2021 and it has been solid for me without any issue except 1 reverb plugin that isn't supported yet. But I did the steps out of order at first and it was a nightmare. Also I'm using Logic Pro as my main DAW so that gives me a little more stability on the M1 compared to other DAWs. But I can say that UAD works perfectly in Reaper, and Studio One as well as Logic. I can't speak for Pro Tools since we still use an Intel iMac Pro for our Pro Tools HDX system and we won't be upgrading our Avid system. When it becomes unsupported we will trash the system since it's outdated anyway running Pro Tools 12. But look for that article on the UA website and I have a video on enabling Kernel extensions for M1 Apple Silicon Macs. Thanks for watching.
@@joesalyers Awesome Joe, will give that a try and let you know how it goes. That's a lot of great info... very very much appreciated! It's a learning curve getting all this software to get friendly with the M1 and Rosetta.
How do I get my Apollo twin x to work on the m1 Mac mini? I just got the computer and now trying to install the UAD drivers
Go to UADs website and get the correct download for Big Sur. UAD say the M1 isn't qualified but I had zero issues installing the software. You do have to turn off system integrity protections which isn't easy but let me get you the link. Follow these direction EXACTLY and you will get it working. DO NOT SKIP A STEP. help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/360050791811-macOS-11-Big-Sur-Apple-M1-Compatibility-Info
@@joesalyers thank you. I actually just got it to install correctly. for those who may run into the same issue, I had to manually select the "allow kernels" after holding down the power button on my Mac mini in a recovery restart!
@@SamOjalvo Yep! I called it by the old name, but that is what turning off system integrity protections is. Apple just changed the name of it in Big Sur to allow kernel extensions or KEXTS. Sorry about that
Does this also work for the macbook air 2020? Do you know by any chance?
@@Itslinoofficial Yes all M1 macs will work the same way. Thanks for watching!
Es compatible el M1 con la apollo twin mkii duo core thunderbolt 2??
Yes, but it will work if you use the thunderbolt 1/2 to thunderbolt 3 adapter from Apple.
@@joesalyers graciiias!!!
@@Musica-wf6kf Thanks for watching!!
hi:)i´ve got a apollo 8 duo with firewire 800 and a satallite that also uses firewire 800. will i be able to run it into my M1 mac if i use a thunderbolt dongle? :)))
No Firewire isn't supported on the M1 only Thunderbolt Universal Audio Interfaces. Sorry. Even using a thunderbolt to firewire adapter will not work on Apple Silicon. Can you add a thunderbolt card to your interface or is it firewire only with no expansion slot?
@@joesalyers there is an expansion slot ,yes. those cards are so expensive tho. do you think UA will support firewire eventually?
i see all other firewire interfaces and gadjets being connected to M1 Macs
thanks for your reply
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Did you have problems with using these plugins on the way in recording through the Console app? Or just as plugins within Logic?
I had No issues with all of the plugins working with the UAD Console it was just the MacOS sandboxing plugins in Logic, that were made for Intel and not Apple Silicon (ARM). But all of the plugins worked fine in the UAD console and I can record through them with no issue. Thanks for watching!
what cable did you use to connect them both ? adapter tb2 to tb3?
Yes the Apple thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 3 adapter.
@@joesalyers that's a relief to know it all works fine...didn't want to invest in it otherwise
@@rnbyido Yes thunderbolt on ARM or x86 is the same PCIe over copper wire. So the Apple adapter will work for any machine no matter what CPU or operating system it has as long as the computer is thunderbolt compatible.
@@joesalyers thanks for the video do you know if the this would apply to the Apollox4 quad? Thanks 🙏
@@dysfunctionalmariachi995 It's exactly the same. All Apollos use the same driver (called a KEXT or Kernel Extension on MacOS which is UNIIX) for Thunderbolt no matter the implementation. So if you have a Thunderbolt 1 or Thunderbolt 3 interface the driver is exactly the same. You will still need to follow UADs complete instructions for getting the Apollo up and running. There is an order of 5 things you need to do and doing it in the wrong order will stop it from working. But it's not that hard and it's super simple and if you mess up you can easily fix the problems of doing things out of order. Just check out the UAD website for instructions as well as you can look for the direct link in the comments section of this video. Thanks for watching and enjoy your M1 Mac!
I love u
Thanks HAHA Glad this helped!!
Rosetta mode?
Everything works but I would only use Rosetta mode if you are using Plugin Alliance plugins because they will crash your Logic Sessions if you are using M1 mode. Thanks for watching!
@@joesalyers are you using rosetta mode?
@@majoriteten No I am using just regular M1 mode but I did find that the only real issue I had was with Native Plugin Alliance plugins, but the plugin alliance plugins that run on the UAD Apollo were fine. I'm trying to not use intel Plugins until they are updated for apple silicon because I was around when Rosetta one (powerPC to Intel) happened and Apple dropped it really quick. So I would like to use the plugin alliance stuff but until it's a universal binary I can't. I have my main studio machine an iMac Pro but I use the Mac Mini M1 at home as a way to finish or edit projects at home.
Now you can just get the Mac mini ultra
I would but I already bought the M1 Max Macbook Pro but I would love to see an M1 ultra laptop!!
@@joesalyers yep I think that will labeled Mac ultra pro. And thanks for posting these vids on UAD plug-ins and M1
@@ramonkey2939 Thanks for watching!!
New Mac Mini 2 days old. Trusty Apollo Twin, paper weight! I downloaded the latest drivers for nothing! Dead in the water! It might be time to move on...
You have to enable Kernel extensions in recovery mode because of the new chip in the Mac Mini, so uninstall the UAD software and follow this UAD article step by step and do not skip any step and make sure you follow it in order. help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/360050791811-macOS-11-Big-Sur-Apple-M1-Compatibility-Info
Hey man thank you for the info. I've tried 20 times at least. I think i have the m1 that won't let it happen. i am so dissappointed. I can't make music!
@@kingdommindset1462 Nope it will work its most likely, you are doing something in the wrong order. Either you haven't enabled Kernel extensions in recovery mode or more likely it that once you install the driver do not select the option to allow the software in the Mac preference until after you reboot the machine, after the reboot then give the UAD software permissions. If you allow the permissions before the reboot it will fail EVERYTIME. I think there have been 10 comments with the same issue on this video and everytime it's because you must not allow the UAD permissions for security and privacy until after a reboot. Also when you clear out the UAD software and run the terminal script that is on the page I linked earlier. Follow every step in order if you skip one thing it will fail. So take your time it will work I promise I have 2 M1 Macs both of them work perfectly and there are dozens of users in the comments of this video who have it working as well. Read through the comments and see if you are making the same mistakes that they have and how they resolved them. Cheers
@@joesalyers HI. i tried over and over to change the security settings in recovery mode. I watch videos on you tube. things people have on their screen is not on mine. scarlett is class compliant. I'm just to tired.
thank you for your help. stay healthy.
@@joesalyers Hi again. I'm in!
You were right! It works. I had a hard time though.
I got an Apple tech to go online with me. She was awesome, but she hung up with the both of us bewildered. She suggested i call UAD. I even showed her our correspondence.
i couldn't quit, and success! Thank you so much.