Fender Blackface ProReverb. Let's repair the hum, make it sound great and learn about amp repairs.

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  • @BrenQ99
    @BrenQ99 9 місяців тому +1

    I am on the exact same diet. Respect!

  • @fiddlix
    @fiddlix Рік тому +6

    I love working on old blackface fenders. I think I know all of them by heart I have repaired so many of them. Great job mate.

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому +2

      Thanks David. I doubt that there is a Tech anywhere on the planet who does not enjoy working on vintage Fenders above all. Leo sure knew his stuff. Happy repairing!

  • @johnpierson8398
    @johnpierson8398 Рік тому +2

    For an aspiring amp tech, there are many fundamental tips in this video. There is a heartwarming, down to Earth feel to your videos. I especially love the pics of you as a musician. You had hair!

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому +1

      HAHAHA! Yes, I had hair!. I remeber that. My daughter had the ALL CLEAR biopsy following her mastectomy last week. I can now let my hair grow back. I have no idea what hair will return. I wouldn't be surprised if only half returned and all grey!
      Thank you for your kind words, John. I really appreciate it. it.

    • @markusf.3441
      @markusf.3441 Рік тому +1

      @@theguitaramptech Hi Chris, great news, I wish you and your daughter all the best! Greetings from Germany❤

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому

      @@markusf.3441 vielen dank, Markus. Thank you for your prayers.

  • @MichaelSmith-rn1qw
    @MichaelSmith-rn1qw Рік тому +2

    Howdy from Texas! At 31:17 in the video, there is an ink stamp near the power transformer T24 567. Technician #24, May of 1967. That is the date the chassis wiring was completed. Someone probably knows who Tech 24 was at that time.

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому +1

      Brilliant!! Thank you seeing that and taking the time to write the comment, Michael.

  • @rchavez2112
    @rchavez2112 Рік тому +3

    Good work! The owner is lucky to have you. I like your explanations, very insightful.
    I bought some NOS Phillips 12AT7(s) and put one in the phase inverter position and it made a world of difference with my '66 Super Reverb. My amp sounded like Jimi Hendrix! Lol! It made me realize how importance of a good phase inverted tube.

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому +1

      That is a very astute observation, Rick. I agree that a good well matched 12AT7 is very important in PI position.
      I also like a Cathodyne phase inverter configuration. Not as common as the LTP but very cool.

  • @brucehayes7251
    @brucehayes7251 Рік тому +1

    Sincere thanks for an educational trek. I will never be brave enough to fiddle inside my amps beyond the speaker connection but im quite happy to watch someone else.

  • @Splattle101
    @Splattle101 Рік тому +1

    What a cool old amp. It looks like my old transitional Super Reverb, but with 2x12 instead of the 4 x 10s. Nice work, too, striking the balance between historical preservation and practical amp maintenance.
    Pettifogging quibble incoming. At 45.46 you talked about the valve saturating (as opposed to cutting off). My quibble is this: valves don't saturate. As grid voltage rises toward 0 V with respect to the cathode, current begins to flow on the grid. Even if the signal voltage continues to rise, the charge flowing on the grid will hold the grid around 0 V. The harder you push the signal +ve, the more current flows, and the more grid voltage stays around 0 V. Meanwhile, the anode current continues to faithfully follow the voltage of the grid, which has been clamped at 0 V by the grid current. So the anode current is 'clipped' because it follows the grid voltage, which is clamped by the current flowing on the grid. So the anode current stops rising because the grid voltage stops rising, not because the anode can't conduct more current. Meaning the anode ain't saturated.
    I blame this on-the-spectrum rant on Merlin Blencowe. 😁

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому +1

      Very well put Bladder. I know I will lose my viewers if I go too deep. I wanted to differentiate that non-linearity from Cut-Off at the other end. Can you suggest a single word that can get the message across? I would be happy to adopt that phrase if it explained the rounding off better than "saturation". Thanks for the clarification.
      (I am also a devotee of Mr Blencowe's and have a hard copy of Designing Valve Preamps.)

    • @Splattle101
      @Splattle101 Рік тому +1

      @@theguitaramptech It's a great little book, innit? :-) He's also re-published his book 'Designing Power Supplies for Tube Amplifiers'. But to answer your question, I dunno. Grid clamping?

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому +1

      @@Splattle101 yes I have just ordered my copy from Amazon 🥰
      I can see that grid clamping may be a more accurate expression, but I suspect it will lead to more confusion and ongoing explanations. I’ll stay with saturation, until you, or I can come up with a better word.

  • @ScottyBrockway
    @ScottyBrockway Рік тому +1

    Brad is a champion.

  • @jonnybeck6723
    @jonnybeck6723 Рік тому +1

    Loved your playing...
    That tone wuz just spot on perfection (!)

  • @martinreid1740
    @martinreid1740 11 місяців тому

    Just found your channel recently and am catching up with all your repairs, great work by the way. I'm at the end of my gigging days now but when you pulled out that blonde maple cap tele it took me back to 1973 when I bought mine second hand for £165 I regret trading it but that's life. Serial number was 240858.

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  11 місяців тому

      Thanks Martin. Thank you for Subscribing. As much as I love Les Pauls, my first love will always be my Teles. I bought mine new in 1973 for AUD440 (about £220).

  • @philipharrauer9103
    @philipharrauer9103 Рік тому +1

    Awesome, like always!❤ All the best and keep doing this! Philip from Austria!

  • @Vintage_375
    @Vintage_375 Рік тому +1

    Another great upload, thanks for taking the time to make the video and upload!

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому +1

      Thank you Alex. Its comments like yours which fuel me to make videos.

  • @Tonetwisters
    @Tonetwisters 8 місяців тому +1

    I thought you English guys sipped on tea! I cut my teeth on my brother's brownface 1960 PRO. Put in some Webers and enjoy life. The PRO is probably only the second handwired, 40 watt amplifier that Fender ever made (the first, perhaps being the low powered Twin). Put some Sprague atoms in it; or at least some F & T's ! Beautiful job on those F&T's. And time is running out for this world! There is only one way out of it, and his name is Jesus. Make him your Savior now, while you still can!!

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  8 місяців тому +1

      Hey! I’m not English…I’m Australian! .
      You are in for a treat, my friend. I am just finishing off a huge restoration of a 1962 brown face pro. It’ll be a few weeks before I get the editing done, but I think you’re going to love it.
      And yes, Jesus is my savior. He saved my daughter from an aggressive cancer last year. I am forever in awe and in His debt.

    • @Tonetwisters
      @Tonetwisters 8 місяців тому +1

      AMEN!! SO glad to hear all of that! I sort of thought you might be Australian, but I wasn't for sure hearing some of those sounds that usually cue me in. And I WILL be looking for that PRO video!! Once again, so glad for your daughter's good health and to know that I have a brother just a short swim away! (I live in Jacksonville, FL) Happy Easter ... Jesus is coming back soon!@@theguitaramptech

  • @edwardhannigan6324
    @edwardhannigan6324 Рік тому +1

    Another fantastic in depth video Chris, covering the essential voltages and components required to maximise the efficiency of that fab amp..! ( that was a mouthful) Great explanations Chris, learning loads still..Nice Fender sound and demo..Thanks again for sharing your invaluable knowledge..Ed..uk..😀

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому +1

      Hey bartender. Another one for the Pom over here! 😊
      Thank you Ed. I watched all of the coronation last night. It was quite amazing. I felt sorry for Charles under the kilos of gold robes holding golden swords while balancing an enormous crown. Quite the spectacle.

    • @edwardhannigan6324
      @edwardhannigan6324 Рік тому +1

      @@theguitaramptech Thanks for the drink mate..! Yes we were bombarded with the coronation all day yesterday. They are good for the country, and we do pomp and ceremony to the max..Stay well and your family also..Ed

  • @ZillaYT
    @ZillaYT Рік тому +1

    Very cool video. I'm an electrical engineer/guitar player who just bought a 66 Pro today, and I was loving the video. Luckily mine doesn't have a hum.

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому

      Congratulations on a beautiful amp. Hopefully, yours has not been vandalised by a “replace everything” Tech. Your main filter caps are not a critical element in the sound path, so please check them before you apply power. Otherwise, please don’t replace any components unless you are 100% sure they are faulty, especially coupling caps.

    • @ZillaYT
      @ZillaYT Рік тому

      @@theguitaramptech if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Mine sounds good, but I’ll open it up later this week.

  • @johnmarshall3903
    @johnmarshall3903 Рік тому +1

    Nice job Chris, these are great amps. Love your Tele!

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому

      Thanks John. Great to hear from you again. They really are great amps! The Tele was a bit of a basket case when I brought it back home. Aussie pickup guru, Rod McQueen (Sliders pickups) rewound the bridge pickup, and master luthier Frank Grubisa did magic on the neck. Now it is a sheer joy to play and under 7lbs!

    • @johnmarshall3903
      @johnmarshall3903 Рік тому +1

      I love late 60's Fenders, I have a 68 Strat.

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому

      @@johnmarshall3903 nice one, John.

  • @uncleswan3896
    @uncleswan3896 Рік тому

    My first production run (1965) blackface pro reverb had utah speakers in it originally FWIW

  • @pennykattack5789
    @pennykattack5789 Рік тому +1

    Just came across your channel. I like it and you know Brad (The Guitologist?). Super nice amp and teachings. One constructive tip: check your camera/lights for white backgrounds because the schematics are almost impossible to read. All the best from Brazil to "beside under". ;)

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому +1

      Thank you Penny. I have been having problems with my sound clipping. I think you're right about the lights. Maybe they are too bright? I do a white balance, so its not that. It looks OK in my edit, so maybe the UA-cam compression somehow affects it. I don't know. Thanks for pointing that out.

  • @montygore1200
    @montygore1200 Рік тому

    Very nice. You still have the tele chops

  • @elsaarmstrong-zp6ng
    @elsaarmstrong-zp6ng 4 місяці тому +1

    Excellent videos! Fenders are very good, only concern I have is tubes/valves operating upside down! It must shorten their life and toast the caps and resistors etc above them! Any comments! Fraser!

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  4 місяці тому +1

      You are right, of course, but I think that Leo thought the space-saving was worth it. History has shown that Leo's concept worked ... as usual.

  • @terrydemol5354
    @terrydemol5354 Рік тому +1

    WRT Bias supply cap size, 25uF vs 100uF -> I've worked on many an amp where this cap size has been increased significantly and it's not necessarily a good idea. If you have a mains interrupt, both bias and HT will discharge then re charge. This can cause a huge over current condition in the tubes depending on how the two supplies track or otherwise.

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому +1

      Hi Terry. Thank you for that perceptive comment. Yes, that scenario is possible.
      The other side of that same coin, is that a larger bias cap may hold a negative bias supply to the grids for longer in the event of a power interruption…and I get a less noisy, more stable bias.
      While I haven’t had any issues yet but, I will definitely keep your suggestion in mind and tame the increase in future. Thank you.

    • @danh.8490
      @danh.8490 Рік тому +1

      I usually put in a 50uf @ 150 volts for the bias supply capacitor in BF SF fenders.

  • @tomfoolery2082
    @tomfoolery2082 Рік тому +1

    50=60
    100=120 10-4
    Always learn something here.

  • @ladyjulia4038
    @ladyjulia4038 Рік тому +2

    Hey friend I'm really looking to get into the profession of amp repair. I'm currently building a Champ and enjoying every bit of it. I would love to know of any books I should buy. Schematics are still very difficult for me to wrap my head around.

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому

      I'm coming at amp teching (real word...as of now) from a different doorway Julia. I completed electrical engineering many decades ago. An excellent reference book for you is Electric Guitar Amplifier Handbook Paperback - November 3, 2017 by Jack Darr from Amazon.

    • @ladyjulia4038
      @ladyjulia4038 Рік тому

      @@theguitaramptech Thankyou so much

  • @curtisprice9806
    @curtisprice9806 12 днів тому +1

    HOWDY FROM MISSISSIPPI!! MY MIND WAS BLOWN THE OTHER NIGHT WHEN I DECIDED TO CHECK THE BIAS ON MY '65 DELUXE. BACK IN 2001 MY FOOTNOTES DESIGNATED MY RECTIFIED CURRENT WAS 452 VOLTS. THE SCHEMATIC SAYS BALLPARK IS SUPPOSED TO BE AROUND 325 VOLTS WITH 117 LINE VOLTS FOR AN AB763 CIRCUIT OF THIS DELUXE....SO I CHECKED AGAIN TO SEE IF I HAD 452, AND INSTEAD I GOT 488/485 VOLTS FROM THE AMPEREX GZ34 RECTIFIER TUBE! I DON'T KNOW WHY IT IS SO HIGH WITH 124 LINE VOLTS. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN AND OR KNOW WHY THE VOLTAGE COULD BE SO INCREDIBLY HIGH? THE AMP WORKS FINE, AND I BIASED IT FOR 15 MILLIAMPS AT 485 VOLTS.... ACCORDING TO SOME CHARTS I HAVE FROM A WORN OUT TUBE BOOK OF MINE. THANKS, I ENJOY YOUR AMP VIDEOS!

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  12 днів тому +1

      Hi Curtis. Great to have you as part of the family. You didn’t mention if your amp was a ’65 Reissue or an original from 1965. My schematic shows 415v on the plates. 124v is 8% higher than 115v. You need to also look at your heater AC voltage. It should be 6.3V AC, but I expect yours will be around 6.8V AC. We would prefer that not go above 6.9V. The power dissipation from 15mA @ 485v is spot-on. If your heater voltage is OK, you could try replacing your amazing GZ34 with a 5U4G which will drop your B+.
      I am so happy that you enjoy and learn from my videos. Its comments like yours make it worthwhile.
      Chris

    • @curtisprice9806
      @curtisprice9806 12 днів тому +1

      @theguitaramptech The real deal! An original '65 Deluxe non-reverb. Well this video of the pro showed its voltage at 477 volts, and the schematic says ballpark 440 volts. This makes me feel better since mine settled in at 485 after 10 minutes. Thanks for the info ...a lot of ground others don't cover!

  • @kbkman7742
    @kbkman7742 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if the tag strips were an attempt to stop leaking dc from the board getting past the caps

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому

      Good thought. Its possible, KB. Because of the number of connections, it looked like a more convenient mounting point.

  • @danielsauriol
    @danielsauriol Рік тому +1

    I am on the same diet as you !!! lol!!! 🙂

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому

      HAHAHAHA! You don't get to have this body of a Grecian god without good prep work, Daniel. Keep up the chocolate biscuit workout (dark chocolate only please).

  • @elsaarmstrong-zp6ng
    @elsaarmstrong-zp6ng 4 місяці тому +1

    I have often wondered why DC current is not used for indirectly heated valves/tubes? Surely this alone would lower hum levels? Fraser

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  4 місяці тому

      @@elsaarmstrong-zp6ng yes, using DC for the heaters, especially in the preamp circuit, would definitely help with hum. On the other hand, it has also been a point of failure and adds to the complexity of the power supply.

    • @elsaarmstrong-zp6ng
      @elsaarmstrong-zp6ng 4 місяці тому +2

      @@theguitaramptechSimple transformer circuit with bridge rectifier and 6 volt regulator + capacitors zener diode etc ! No switch mode psu ! Linear psu would hopefully give a reliable DC supply for the valve heaters! Switch mode psu’s always noisy and unreliable in my opinion! Linear supply’s very little trouble! I have a old telephone xchange psu since the 60’s and still 48 volts DC at 10 Amps at the output! So why would DC heaters not work? Fraser

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  4 місяці тому

      DC heaters are often used on preamp circuits, especially in high-end amps. I agree with you 100% on a linear DC supply over switch mode.

  • @jonnybeck6723
    @jonnybeck6723 Рік тому

    I've got me Baja Tele where I've swapped out the scratch plate for a
    circa late '60's mint green guard and 'Voila!' mine's pretty near a dead ringer for what
    you're plunking there... Small world, wot?

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому

      Very cool Jonny. I need to come clean on the pickups, though. When I bought the Tele, the back pickup was dead, so I went to one of the best pickup makers on the planet, @rodneymcqueen1706 of Sliders pickups. It now sounds amazing. The neck pickup is the original from 1968. If you ever need to take your gorgeous Tele to the next level, check out Rod's work. He also did the PAFs in my Les Paul Custom ("Doug") you can see in my JTM45 and Tweed Tone 12A videos.

  • @tomfoolery2082
    @tomfoolery2082 Рік тому +1

    Yeah , what wld they know . Crack me up .

  • @moodyga40
    @moodyga40 Рік тому +1

    hum dinner video working on a music man for noises and hum at the moment

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому

      Can I recommend an Isolation transformer, rubber gloves, while siting on a rubber cushion with rubber soled slippers? That B+ makes me nervous.

    • @moodyga40
      @moodyga40 Рік тому +1

      @@theguitaramptech just lick it for fun I've worked on amp with 2000 volt EHT supplies

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому

      @@moodyga40 HAHAHAHA!

  • @goodun2974
    @goodun2974 Рік тому +1

    OK, so you are on a diet..... Meanwhile, I'm 37 minutes into the video and the 3 pop-up ads I've seen have all been for junk food like donuts and corn chips!

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому

      What! I don’t know whether to laugh or be annoyed, Good ‘un. I can’t tell how many ads appear. Is it an annoying amount of ads? If so, I’ll see if I can get those reduced.

    • @goodun2974
      @goodun2974 Рік тому +1

      @@theguitaramptech , I lost track after about the 5th set of pop up ads. It didn't seem to go longer than 7 minutes without an ad popping up. Sometimes it'll let me hit skip ads after 5 seconds, and sometimes not. In addition to corn chips and other junk food I saw an ad for chocolate bars and for iced tea in a bottle. Not having posted any videos myself I can't tell you much about the process but it is my understanding that content creators can select "no pop up ads in the middle" of their videos. However, if you do that, the Google algorithm is less likely to recommend your videos to nonsubscribers. Or so I am told anyway. UA-cam and Google exist solely for the purpose of putting ads in front of peoples eyeballs. The less cooperative a content creator is in this regard, the less interested they are in showing your videos to a wider audience.

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому

      @@goodun2974 thanks for that information. I need to look into this. I confess to being more interested in making the videos, than investigating the business behind the videos. The truth is, I have made so little from the ads that it’s no loss to discontinue them totally. but after what you said, I don’t want to exclude myself from UA-cam putting my videos forward to new people. I really appreciate your input.

  • @markprentice7785
    @markprentice7785 Рік тому +1

    Dark chocolate McVitties Digestive. Mmmmmm

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому +1

      A man after my own heart...or should I say "waistline"!

  • @moodyga40
    @moodyga40 Рік тому

    the condensers are rubbish they need to go you can still buy Alan Bradley resistors for the droppers

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому +3

      Each to their own, but I would never use carbon comps for dropping resistors, Ian. The old Fender I'm working on now has its 4K7 drifted up to 11K2. They may have a place in audio circuits but not in a power supply.
      I'm not sure which condensers (capacitors) you mean. I am not precious about filter and bypass caps, but I will NEVER replace a single coupling capacitor unless I can prove that its leaking. I shriek in horror if I see a beautiful old amp where every cap has been replaced with horrid orange disgraces.

    • @johnmarshall3903
      @johnmarshall3903 Рік тому +1

      @@theguitaramptech Totally agree.

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому

      Thank you, John. When the Marshall Master says "it is so", then I feel secure in my approach.
      I have a confession, John. The Grounding on JMP & JCM800s annoys me. I have been known to solder (ala vintage Fender) the mains ground, and first couple of filter stages to the same point directly on the chassis. It reduces the earthing buzz and makes the amp a little quieter overall. Your opinion? (send condemnations to amptech@teammania.com.au, and songs of praise and joy to my Facebook page! 😉)

  • @ThomasBrock74
    @ThomasBrock74 8 місяців тому +1

    Dude, that 1 resistor was 12% over and you're gonna leave it anything over 10%?You should replace.Why did you leave the twelve percent over resistor that's just bad.

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for your opinion, Thomas. You are very funny.
      I would answer your question with a well-explained answer. However, I do not reply to trolls who think they know more than me. They rarely do. Trolls just try to make themselves look smarter, but just end up making fools of themselves. My advice is to go do 6 years of Electrical Engineering at a leading university and work in the field for decades and answer your own question.
      Your learning tip for the day: What are the effects of varying cathode resistors? Why does Marshall often use much higher values, up to 10K? Plot the load lines on a tube chart.
      Try to learn without exposing your ignorance, Thomas.

  • @CaptainRon1913
    @CaptainRon1913 Рік тому

    I can't hear a 60htz hum, all I can hear is your lips smacking

    • @theguitaramptech
      @theguitaramptech  Рік тому

      HAHAHAHA! Don't make me laugh. Now I have to watch the video the hear the noises I make. Sorry!