Introducing guns to Maori inadvertently lead to the creation of trench warfare. Which Maori used against the British who in turn took it to the Western Front in WW1. Hence why the New Zealand Wars were so hard. Unlike most other natives the British encountered, Maori already had a working knowledge of musket fighting & tactics by the time war broke out.
Europeans were using trench fighting tactics long before the Land Wars. The Maori didn't invent the concept, but they did come up with it independently without outside knowledge or help. They simply modified the earthworks they had already been using for centuries.
@@frostyguy1989 when did Europeans start using bomb shelters and off set trench lines to stop exploding shell killing everyone in the trench? Maybe Zorc should have reworded Modern day trench Warfare. The templates for WW1 and the Crimea all ready written by Maori. As a matter of fact model copies were made and set to England.
Trench-Warfare was just the next evolution of fighting. When weapons started getting more accurate the only escape was dig down. Look at the American civil war for example. It was fought with Napoleonic tactics in the beginning... Then went to full scale trench-warfare.... With layered defenses... Etc... (If anything was the example of what was to come it’s this war.) If you look at siege battles during the all periods in history you will find massive trench works on the attackers side. (Pre-guns as-well.) The Maori may have used it a lot in there culture of fighting... But, the idea wasn’t new with Europeans. It was just the next evolution of fighting wars.
@@PaladinPoppie Maori developed the templates for WW1 trench warfare bud...Maori were engaged in this form of warfare even before the American civil War. The British also had the drawings, designs and models of Maori GUN PA. They tabled these designs complete with bomb-bunkers in the house of commons.
(Continuation) One example... The siege of Vienna in 1683... The Ottomans had massive amounts of trench lines surrounding the city on all sides. Using a layered system to allow different angles of fire for the artillery. They were also tunneling under the walls and trying to plant explosives to crack them open. We all know how it ended for the ottomans tho... 🤣🤣🤣 (That’s a whole different story.)
this is the first video of yours ive come across, great work keep it up :) here are a few notes tho you pronounced Tū correctly, the full name would be "Tūmatuenga" (Tu-Mah-Toe-Angah) which is the Maori god of war (hes pretty much Aries with facial tattoos who also likes to eat people and happens to be the ancestor of humanity ) Kai Tangata (Kai Tun-gah-tar) was the practice of consuming human flesh if you like this song look up RAUPATU and RUA TE WHENUA by Alien Weaponry here are the english and Maori lyrics :) (Footsteps pound the sacred warpath) Ka hopungia e maha nga upoko - (Many heads are sought) Ka hopungia e maha taurekareka - (Many slaves are sought) E mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga) Anei rā - (Behold) Te uhi o Mataora - (The chisel of Mataora) Pai tuarā - (The strong back) Te kokongapere - (The base of the spine) Nga rape - (The buttock spirals) Te kitemaimairu - (The thigh) Tatua taua - (The war belt) Nga tā moko puhoro - (The tattooed bodies of warriors) Anei nga tohu a Tūmatauenga - (These are the omens of war) He pakanga nunui mo te whakautu - (A mighty battle to avenge us) Tae mai nga tūpuna mo te whakaāwhina - (Our ancestors gather to assist us) Kia mau nga Tohunga mo te whakakarakia - (Our priests prepare the incantations) E mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga) Anei rā - (Behold) Te uhi o Mataora - (The chisel of Mataora) Pai tuarā - (The strong back) Te kokongapere - (The base of the spine) Nga rape - (The buttock spirals) Te kitemaimairu - (The thigh) Tatua taua - (The war belt) Nga tā moko puhoro - (The tattooed bodies of warriors) Anei nga tohu a Tūmatauenga - (These are the omens of war) A Tūmatauenga x4 - (Of Tūmatauenga) Mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga x4 - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga) Whakatangi o nga pū, whakapatu nga taiaha - (The cry of guns, the blows of the taiaha) Te kikokiko rekareka ō aku hoariri - (The sweet flesh of our enemies) Nga umu whakakīa tātau kōpū ki te utu - (The ovens fill our bellies with revenge) E mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga) Anei rā - (Behold) Te uhi o Mataora - (The chisel of Mataora) Pai tuarā - (The strong back) Te kokongapere - (The base of the spine) Nga rape - (The buttock spirals) Te kitemaimairu - (The thigh) Tatua taua - (The war belt) Nga tā moko puhoro - (The tattooed bodies of warriors) Anei nga tohu a Tūmatauenga - (These are the omens of war) Waewae tapu takahi te ara taua - (Footsteps pound the sacred warpath) x4
He taua, He taua! - (A war party, a war party!) Waewae tapu takahi te ara taua - (Footsteps pound the sacred warpath) Ka hopungia e maha nga upoko - (Many heads are sought) Ka hopungia e maha taurekareka - (Many slaves are sought) E mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga) Anei rā - (Behold) Te uhi o Mataora - (The chisel of Mataora) Pai tuarā - (The strong back) Te kokongapere - (The base of the spine) Nga rape - (The buttock spirals) Te kitemaimairu - (The thigh) Tatua taua - (The war belt) Nga tā moko puhoro - (The tattooed bodies of warriors) Anei nga tohu a Tūmatauenga - (These are the omens of war) He pakanga nunui mo te whakautu - (A mighty battle to avenge us) Tae mai nga tūpuna mo te whakaāwhina - (Our ancestors gather to assist us) Kia mau nga Tohunga mo te whakakarakia - (Our priests prepare the incantations) E mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga) Anei rā - (Behold) Te uhi o Mataora - (The chisel of Mataora) Pai tuarā - (The strong back) Te kokongapere - (The base of the spine) Nga rape - (The buttock spirals) Te kitemaimairu - (The thigh) Tatua taua - (The war belt) Nga tā moko puhoro - (The tattooed bodies of warriors) Anei nga tohu a Tūmatauenga - (These are the omens of war) A Tūmatauenga x4 - (Of Tūmatauenga) Mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga x4 - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga) Whakatangi o nga pū, whakapatu nga taiaha - (The cry of guns, the blows of the taiaha) Te kikokiko rekareka ō aku hoariri - (The sweet flesh of our enemies) Nga umu whakakīa tātau kōpū ki te utu - (The ovens fill our bellies with revenge) E mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga) Anei rā - (Behold) Te uhi o Mataora - (The chisel of Mataora) Pai tuarā - (The strong back) Te kokongapere - (The base of the spine) Nga rape - (The buttock spirals) Te kitemaimairu - (The thigh) Tatua taua - (The war belt) Nga tā moko puhoro - (The tattooed bodies of warriors) Anei nga tohu a Tūmatauenga - (These are the omens of war) Waewae tapu takahi te ara taua - (Footsteps pound the sacred warpath) Waewae tapu takahi te ara taua - (Footsteps pound the sacred warpath) Waewae tapu takahi te ara taua - (Footsteps pound the sacred warpath) Waewae tapu takahi te ara taua - (Footsteps pound the sacred warpath) These guys are great. Really giving us a look into the Maori culture while rocking the hell out.
🤟😜EPIC!!! And appreciate your commentary on the actual history recounted here too. As the power of our weaponry increases I pray God so does our wisdom and restraint.
muskets were commonly used in Maori war as trading with travelling whalers and sealers meant muskets were one such trade - so the boys did their homework on their history as young Maori themselves - We here in Aotearoa NZ are proud of these guys who despite years have a strong mature sound who are teaching us a new way to integrate identity and indigenous language into metal
Interesting and rather good! It's a little sad that most of us only really know the haka form Maori culture/ history from when the rugby team plays. Just once though, I'd like to see the England team do a morris dance in response.
All though I understand where you are coming from, that wouldn’t come off well if another team did it. It’s just not their culture at all and it would almost come off as mockery in my opinion
Almost certainly and I'm not suggesting for a second that it should actually be done but it would be expected that they give it the same respect that opposing teams give to them. That would be the funny part.
Great review bro an reaction bro you would be fascinated with our culture as for out spare an clubs killing people they killed more people with those than muskets when the British came to fight us to colonize here they had muskets we had mostly taiahas an patus wood an green stone weapons that would kill by blunt force trauma check out the docos on youtube there is alot of info but anyway mate great reaction please react to Alien Weaponry - Raupatu and Alien Weaponry Ru Ana Te Whenua
Man these young Rangatira are setting high standards man! I loved this song and the vid. Whilst most comment on the potency of our Warriors n tactics pre and post musket-as all races have bad arse fighters; my fave part of the video right at the end-when the Tohunga took the war party out with his chanting and spell-that to me was showcasing our true ancestral style warfare tactics n strategies , as our ancestors fought under many types of spiritual protections and restrictions-its awesome they put a tiny bit into this vid. Our Tuupuna were highly developed spiritual warriors as well as physical.
This song was pretty cool first time I listened to it. I grew up in Samoa, which is a Polynesian island. Both Maori and and Samoans are Polynesian and the languages sound somewhat similar. First time I heard of the old Maori people, I heard that they were "Taufe'ai" which means vicious. They eat flesh/blood in war. So I had viewed their ancestors as that. The haka is pretty cool though. Language is pretty similar. Kai Tangata sounds like Ai Tagata which means Eat People in Samoan. Tumatauenga sounds like Atua Taua which means a god that does war in Samoan. I looked it up and it does indeed mean the same things. Makes me wonder, what if all Polynesians originated from one place but spread out and changed the original language in their own way.
Yet it is will feel new BUT i sure that not so metal at its mainstream point, it brings what they want to tell their tale and thats why i love them so much, i can feel their soul with this song
If you like introducing new influences to existing genres maybe even listen to "Ari Ari" and "Jee Verey" by Bloodywood. They mix Indian Folk music into their metal. It's a weird but very enjoyable mix and they also send a pretty good message.
Hi. I just thought I'd add to your commentary. Tu in this regards this context can mean 2 things (1) to stand, but this would usually be written as Ee Tu (2) AA reference to the Maori god of war Tumatauenga shortened to Tu, which is more likely the explanation to the name on the cover.As to the pronounciation of the song'''s name the word tangaataa (meaning "person or people") is pronounced aas in the singer. Kai means fooodd or to eat, tangata person or as is commoonly referred to as cannabalism the idea behind eating your enemy was so you could excrete him out. In the song there is a reference to nga mahi nga mahi a Tumatauenga (the workings of Tumatauenga) this is what is meant by that reference.
We maori where hand to hand combat ready at all times we grew up like the Spartans really fought from a young age are warriors would take a few before going down just as any man can but we new we could with out doubt killed and did not care to die and if you got a 100 warriors like that behind you would take 1000 on without hesitation and probably win like a few of my ancestors did back in time but they did eat people which made them more savage and someone to fear but mainly defeated enemys really and if you walk threw a forest and bush and found 100 of us in the dark doing the haka and then charge at you no doubt you run
Reading into Hongi Hika a bit, I get the impression that if he hadn't gone the England and brought back missionaries and muskets, the eventual colonialisation of NZ would have been much worse for the Maori. The fact the missionaries were already there and had created a written form of Mauri as well as teaching English meant that the Maoris could negotiate much more effectively, with missionaries speaking up for their rights, and having firearms meant they were able to inflict reverses on the British army and slow down the land-grab, so that they were never exterminated or enslaved. And gaining writing meant that so much more of their folklore, history and traditions could be recorded and thus not lost.
Maori in general recognised how much of a game-changer guns were, and Hongi Hika wasn't the only rangatira to stockpile them. While Hika fought battles for revenge and slaves, Te Rauparaha attempted to build an empire of sorts in the middle of the country. Unlike Hika, Te Rauparaha held on to the territory he conquered. A point about slavery: Maori were a slave-owning society in large part because the tropical plants they brought with them from Polynesia couldn't grow in NZ's colder climate. Their main crop kumara was not only teeny tiny compared to modern varieties, but it was stupid hard to grow. It requiring constant digging and replacing heated rocks into the soil so that it would be warm enough for it to grow. On top of that, only a select few places were warm enough or fertile enough to grow it. When Britain began colonisation in NZ, they had already outlawed slavery in the Empire. Missionary efforts and the introduction of less labour-intensive crops like potatoes led to Maori abandoning slavery.
@@frostyguy1989 Kumara grows easily in upper north Island and on the East Coast. You clearly did not read the chronicles of Captain Cook how he documents the vast cultivation/gardens of the Maori. Sure certain crops failed ie Taro but Maori horticulture was pretty advanced.
Not a "fan" of theirs per se (I like my music a bit more pig squeal-y, blast beat-y and chug chug-gy) but there is no doubt these boys are fucking amazing. I'm from NZ and I can at least appreciate the combination of metal and maori. Growing up as a maori during the 90's I was the weirdo of the family for listening to metal lol. Keep up the good work lads.
Ive looked through a lot of your vids, and it seems ( forgive me if im wrong ) but you havent discovered Nightwish yet. Do Ghost Love Score ( live at wacken ) i think you'd enjoy that ;)
we don't no how to do soft our apologies my English friend u can also say hello to those people dominated we forgive watz life without forgivness it hapnd move on. r we beta , up 2 u.one love.
Double gimmick band,.. if they weren't kids and they didnt force the maori language into their music then people would be 'allowed' to dislike them for their music. - If you say you don't like them,. you're instantly a bad person who oppresses the maori language and wishes ill upon the youth. the fact is,.. the music is simple lowest common denominator, boring simple riff-driven yawn-fest. A smart business move,.. but overwhelmingly lacking in anything special or musically feasible. Great potential tho,... but certainly nothing to get excited about..... yet.
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Introducing guns to Maori inadvertently lead to the creation of trench warfare. Which Maori used against the British who in turn took it to the Western Front in WW1. Hence why the New Zealand Wars were so hard. Unlike most other natives the British encountered, Maori already had a working knowledge of musket fighting & tactics by the time war broke out.
Europeans were using trench fighting tactics long before the Land Wars. The Maori didn't invent the concept, but they did come up with it independently without outside knowledge or help. They simply modified the earthworks they had already been using for centuries.
@@frostyguy1989 when did Europeans start using bomb shelters and off set trench lines to stop exploding shell killing everyone in the trench? Maybe Zorc should have reworded Modern day trench Warfare. The templates for WW1 and the Crimea all ready written by Maori. As a matter of fact model copies were made and set to England.
Trench-Warfare was just the next evolution of fighting.
When weapons started getting more accurate the only escape was dig down. Look at the American civil war for example.
It was fought with Napoleonic tactics in the beginning... Then went to full scale trench-warfare.... With layered defenses... Etc... (If anything was the example of what was to come it’s this war.)
If you look at siege battles during the all periods in history you will find massive trench works on the attackers side. (Pre-guns as-well.)
The Maori may have used it a lot in there culture of fighting... But, the idea wasn’t new with Europeans. It was just the next evolution of fighting wars.
@@PaladinPoppie Maori developed the templates for WW1 trench warfare bud...Maori were engaged in this form of warfare even before the American civil War. The British also had the drawings, designs and models of Maori GUN PA. They tabled these designs complete with bomb-bunkers in the house of commons.
(Continuation) One example... The siege of Vienna in 1683... The Ottomans had massive amounts of trench lines surrounding the city on all sides. Using a layered system to allow different angles of fire for the artillery. They were also tunneling under the walls and trying to plant explosives to crack them open.
We all know how it ended for the ottomans tho... 🤣🤣🤣 (That’s a whole different story.)
this is the first video of yours ive come across, great work keep it up :)
here are a few notes tho
you pronounced Tū correctly, the full name would be "Tūmatuenga" (Tu-Mah-Toe-Angah) which is the Maori god of war (hes pretty much Aries with facial tattoos who also likes to eat people and happens to be the ancestor of humanity )
Kai Tangata (Kai Tun-gah-tar) was the practice of consuming human flesh
if you like this song look up RAUPATU and RUA TE WHENUA by Alien Weaponry
here are the english and Maori lyrics :)
(Footsteps pound the sacred warpath)
Ka hopungia e maha nga upoko - (Many heads are sought)
Ka hopungia e maha taurekareka - (Many slaves are sought)
E mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga)
Anei rā - (Behold)
Te uhi o Mataora - (The chisel of Mataora)
Pai tuarā - (The strong back)
Te kokongapere - (The base of the spine)
Nga rape - (The buttock spirals)
Te kitemaimairu - (The thigh)
Tatua taua - (The war belt)
Nga tā moko puhoro - (The tattooed bodies of warriors)
Anei nga tohu a Tūmatauenga - (These are the omens of war)
He pakanga nunui mo te whakautu - (A mighty battle to avenge us)
Tae mai nga tūpuna mo te whakaāwhina - (Our ancestors gather to assist us)
Kia mau nga Tohunga mo te whakakarakia - (Our priests prepare the incantations)
E mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga)
Anei rā - (Behold)
Te uhi o Mataora - (The chisel of Mataora)
Pai tuarā - (The strong back)
Te kokongapere - (The base of the spine)
Nga rape - (The buttock spirals)
Te kitemaimairu - (The thigh)
Tatua taua - (The war belt)
Nga tā moko puhoro - (The tattooed bodies of warriors)
Anei nga tohu a Tūmatauenga - (These are the omens of war)
A Tūmatauenga x4 - (Of Tūmatauenga)
Mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga x4 - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga)
Whakatangi o nga pū, whakapatu nga taiaha - (The cry of guns, the blows of the taiaha)
Te kikokiko rekareka ō aku hoariri - (The sweet flesh of our enemies)
Nga umu whakakīa tātau kōpū ki te utu - (The ovens fill our bellies with revenge)
E mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga)
Anei rā - (Behold)
Te uhi o Mataora - (The chisel of Mataora)
Pai tuarā - (The strong back)
Te kokongapere - (The base of the spine)
Nga rape - (The buttock spirals)
Te kitemaimairu - (The thigh)
Tatua taua - (The war belt)
Nga tā moko puhoro - (The tattooed bodies of warriors)
Anei nga tohu a Tūmatauenga - (These are the omens of war)
Waewae tapu takahi te ara taua - (Footsteps pound the sacred warpath) x4
Its pronounced kai tung a ta not kai tun gar tar
these are not 'few' notes.
He taua, He taua! - (A war party, a war party!)
Waewae tapu takahi te ara taua - (Footsteps pound the sacred warpath)
Ka hopungia e maha nga upoko - (Many heads are sought)
Ka hopungia e maha taurekareka - (Many slaves are sought)
E mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga)
Anei rā - (Behold)
Te uhi o Mataora - (The chisel of Mataora)
Pai tuarā - (The strong back)
Te kokongapere - (The base of the spine)
Nga rape - (The buttock spirals)
Te kitemaimairu - (The thigh)
Tatua taua - (The war belt)
Nga tā moko puhoro - (The tattooed bodies of warriors)
Anei nga tohu a Tūmatauenga - (These are the omens of war)
He pakanga nunui mo te whakautu - (A mighty battle to avenge us)
Tae mai nga tūpuna mo te whakaāwhina - (Our ancestors gather to assist us)
Kia mau nga Tohunga mo te whakakarakia - (Our priests prepare the incantations)
E mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga)
Anei rā - (Behold)
Te uhi o Mataora - (The chisel of Mataora)
Pai tuarā - (The strong back)
Te kokongapere - (The base of the spine)
Nga rape - (The buttock spirals)
Te kitemaimairu - (The thigh)
Tatua taua - (The war belt)
Nga tā moko puhoro - (The tattooed bodies of warriors)
Anei nga tohu a Tūmatauenga - (These are the omens of war)
A Tūmatauenga x4 - (Of Tūmatauenga)
Mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga x4 - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga)
Whakatangi o nga pū, whakapatu nga taiaha - (The cry of guns, the blows of the taiaha)
Te kikokiko rekareka ō aku hoariri - (The sweet flesh of our enemies)
Nga umu whakakīa tātau kōpū ki te utu - (The ovens fill our bellies with revenge)
E mahi nga mahi a Tūmatauenga - (This is the work of Tūmatauenga)
Anei rā - (Behold)
Te uhi o Mataora - (The chisel of Mataora)
Pai tuarā - (The strong back)
Te kokongapere - (The base of the spine)
Nga rape - (The buttock spirals)
Te kitemaimairu - (The thigh)
Tatua taua - (The war belt)
Nga tā moko puhoro - (The tattooed bodies of warriors)
Anei nga tohu a Tūmatauenga - (These are the omens of war)
Waewae tapu takahi te ara taua - (Footsteps pound the sacred warpath)
Waewae tapu takahi te ara taua - (Footsteps pound the sacred warpath)
Waewae tapu takahi te ara taua - (Footsteps pound the sacred warpath)
Waewae tapu takahi te ara taua - (Footsteps pound the sacred warpath)
These guys are great. Really giving us a look into the Maori culture while rocking the hell out.
Unruly 333 Pft who DOESNT know Maori?!
Dustin Platt most kiwis hahah. But seriously so good to see these guys doing well with Te Reo
He taua means Its a battle
Discovered these boys awhile back and I do mean boys. They're very talented for how young they are
🤟😜EPIC!!! And appreciate your commentary on the actual history recounted here too. As the power of our weaponry increases I pray God so does our wisdom and restraint.
muskets were commonly used in Maori war as trading with travelling whalers and sealers meant muskets were one such trade - so the boys did their homework on their history as young Maori themselves - We here in Aotearoa NZ are proud of these guys who despite years have a strong mature sound who are teaching us a new way to integrate identity and indigenous language into metal
I'm proud of them and I'm thousands of miles away from them in america, maori culture is freaking amazing to me, gotta give props
Like you said brother. Something new always sounds good. I've just found this band recently and love them! Love to see them live
Great reaction love that you got into the mood keep up the great work
Interesting and rather good! It's a little sad that most of us only really know the haka form Maori culture/ history from when the rugby team plays. Just once though, I'd like to see the England team do a morris dance in response.
All though I understand where you are coming from, that wouldn’t come off well if another team did it. It’s just not their culture at all and it would almost come off as mockery in my opinion
Almost certainly and I'm not suggesting for a second that it should actually be done but it would be expected that they give it the same respect that opposing teams give to them. That would be the funny part.
@@CaptainSokrates Tonga did there Sipi Tau against the NZ Haka. Samoa there Siva Tau. Fiji maid there Cibi.
One of the best things i have heard for years....same feeling like the first time i heard Sepultura:Roots......
Great review bro an reaction bro you would be fascinated with our culture as for out spare an clubs killing people they killed more people with those than muskets when the British came to fight us to colonize here they had muskets we had mostly taiahas an patus wood an green stone weapons that would kill by blunt force trauma check out the docos on youtube there is alot of info but anyway mate great reaction please react to Alien Weaponry - Raupatu and Alien Weaponry Ru Ana Te Whenua
bullshit...The introduction of GUNS killed more Maori than traditional weapons.
As a man this song and video gets my blood pumping like hell. Let's not forget this, brothers, we are natural warriors.
Really well done! That T-shirt, man. I played the heck out of Elite back in the day.
Charles Murphy maybe I should do a new video of elite dangerous in VR
That would be awesome. Maybe you should have a second channel for VR gaming- Graphics, Sounds, and Dialogue. 😃
Man these young Rangatira are setting high standards man! I loved this song and the vid. Whilst most comment on the potency of our Warriors n tactics pre and post musket-as all races have bad arse fighters; my fave part of the video right at the end-when the Tohunga took the war party out with his chanting and spell-that to me was showcasing our true ancestral style warfare tactics n strategies , as our ancestors fought under many types of spiritual protections and restrictions-its awesome they put a tiny bit into this vid. Our Tuupuna were highly developed spiritual warriors as well as physical.
I absolute LOVE your shirt!!! Played Elite on my CPC 464 Schneider
I played it on an Acorn Electron
This song was pretty cool first time I listened to it. I grew up in Samoa, which is a Polynesian island. Both Maori and and Samoans are Polynesian and the languages sound somewhat similar. First time I heard of the old Maori people, I heard that they were "Taufe'ai" which means vicious. They eat flesh/blood in war. So I had viewed their ancestors as that. The haka is pretty cool though.
Language is pretty similar. Kai Tangata sounds like Ai Tagata which means Eat People in Samoan. Tumatauenga sounds like Atua Taua which means a god that does war in Samoan. I looked it up and it does indeed mean the same things. Makes me wonder, what if all Polynesians originated from one place but spread out and changed the original language in their own way.
Yet it is will feel new BUT i sure that not so metal at its mainstream point, it brings what they want to tell their tale and thats why i love them so much, i can feel their soul with this song
I recommend Apocalypse Orchestra, Tenngar Calvary, and Zeni Geva.
If you like introducing new influences to existing genres maybe even listen to "Ari Ari" and "Jee Verey" by Bloodywood. They mix Indian Folk music into their metal. It's a weird but very enjoyable mix and they also send a pretty good message.
A maori battle reenactment would be cool as
Hi. I just thought I'd add to your commentary. Tu in this regards this context can mean 2 things (1) to stand, but this would usually be written as Ee Tu (2) AA reference to the Maori god of war Tumatauenga shortened to Tu, which is more likely the explanation to the name on the cover.As to the pronounciation of the song'''s name the word tangaataa (meaning "person or people") is pronounced aas in the singer. Kai means fooodd or to eat, tangata person or as is commoonly referred to as cannabalism the idea behind eating your enemy was so you could excrete him out. In the song there is a reference to nga mahi nga mahi a Tumatauenga (the workings of Tumatauenga) this is what is meant by that reference.
We maori where hand to hand combat ready at all times we grew up like the Spartans really fought from a young age are warriors would take a few before going down just as any man can but we new we could with out doubt killed and did not care to die and if you got a 100 warriors like that behind you would take 1000 on without hesitation and probably win like a few of my ancestors did back in time but they did eat people which made them more savage and someone to fear but mainly defeated enemys really and if you walk threw a forest and bush and found 100 of us in the dark doing the haka and then charge at you no doubt you run
Yes bro our Iwi back then where proud people with great mana. We can revive our Mana with our young people speaking Te Reo again
Reading into Hongi Hika a bit, I get the impression that if he hadn't gone the England and brought back missionaries and muskets, the eventual colonialisation of NZ would have been much worse for the Maori. The fact the missionaries were already there and had created a written form of Mauri as well as teaching English meant that the Maoris could negotiate much more effectively, with missionaries speaking up for their rights, and having firearms meant they were able to inflict reverses on the British army and slow down the land-grab, so that they were never exterminated or enslaved. And gaining writing meant that so much more of their folklore, history and traditions could be recorded and thus not lost.
Maori in general recognised how much of a game-changer guns were, and Hongi Hika wasn't the only rangatira to stockpile them. While Hika fought battles for revenge and slaves, Te Rauparaha attempted to build an empire of sorts in the middle of the country. Unlike Hika, Te Rauparaha held on to the territory he conquered.
A point about slavery: Maori were a slave-owning society in large part because the tropical plants they brought with them from Polynesia couldn't grow in NZ's colder climate. Their main crop kumara was not only teeny tiny compared to modern varieties, but it was stupid hard to grow. It requiring constant digging and replacing heated rocks into the soil so that it would be warm enough for it to grow. On top of that, only a select few places were warm enough or fertile enough to grow it. When Britain began colonisation in NZ, they had already outlawed slavery in the Empire. Missionary efforts and the introduction of less labour-intensive crops like potatoes led to Maori abandoning slavery.
@@frostyguy1989 Kumara grows easily in upper north Island and on the East Coast. You clearly did not read the chronicles of Captain Cook how he documents the vast cultivation/gardens of the Maori. Sure certain crops failed ie Taro but Maori horticulture was pretty advanced.
Solid reaction bro!!!
6:40, the classic "Slipknot sound" I would say. :-) What a tune!! We make the same mean faces, hahaha!
Not a "fan" of theirs per se (I like my music a bit more pig squeal-y, blast beat-y and chug chug-gy) but there is no doubt these boys are fucking amazing. I'm from NZ and I can at least appreciate the combination of metal and maori. Growing up as a maori during the 90's I was the weirdo of the family for listening to metal lol. Keep up the good work lads.
Ive looked through a lot of your vids, and it seems ( forgive me if im wrong ) but you havent discovered Nightwish yet. Do Ghost Love Score ( live at wacken ) i think you'd enjoy that ;)
Yeah I've done it. You're forgiven. 😀
@@PNW ah sorry, I couldn't see them anywhere. I'll look again. 😂
Not sure about Maori renactment societies, but the actors in the video come from NZ's top kapa haka group.
[kai tanata]
try say Kai tongue a ta
I was going to suggest Tongue + Utter ... but that works too 👍
You sound like professor brian cox are you from Lancashire too love your opinion on the song.
I live in Lancashire. I met Brian once, seems like a nice guy
we don't no how to do soft our apologies my English friend u can also say hello to those people dominated we forgive watz life without forgivness it hapnd move on. r we beta , up 2 u.one love.
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Kia ora (hello) fellow. Hi, how are you?
kai tounge atar dont roll the r
Tangata pronounced tongue -utter
the clubs an spears maori used could easily impale u
Sativa Knight93 impaled by a club, stfu
Head cracked open with a patu = death
Sativa Knight93 bro we did impale them! That’s why they had to create the treaty
they need a solo gutarists,,,
i love all their riffs,but i guess they could do better with a solo guitarist
None of their songs struck as me as needing a solo
It would add more
Double gimmick band,.. if they weren't kids and they didnt force the maori language into their music then people would be 'allowed' to dislike them for their music. - If you say you don't like them,. you're instantly a bad person who oppresses the maori language and wishes ill upon the youth.
the fact is,.. the music is simple lowest common denominator, boring simple riff-driven yawn-fest.
A smart business move,.. but overwhelmingly lacking in anything special or musically feasible.
Great potential tho,... but certainly nothing to get excited about..... yet.
You are a really, really, really boring person. Likely to be someone who complains about "white genocide" and the "overunning of Europe"
There opening for Slayer so who’s boring now
good lord.... "but overwhelmingly lacking in anything special or musically feasible." What a load of bollocks.
Well okay whatever mate but they fucken Rock thats good enough
Kai tangata = Cannibal
C parker I love the eyes myself yummy. lol
kai is food, or to eat. Tangata i'm pretty sure means a person (or to be a person). te reo is fascinating :)
Actually, Kai Tangata directly translates to "The practice of eating human flesh".
Close, it means eating human flesh